Easily one of the best James Reader videos yet. Bonus points to your wife for always helping you out making these comparisons ! I've shot all the EF counterparts but feel like I"m starting all over again with RF.
My choice of lens depends on: a) the shape of my client’s head. b) How much of the background I want in the image. Amazing video!!! Concise and The best comparison I’ve seen
i have 70-200 2.8 and 50 1.2. my very first portrait lens i bought was the 85 1.8 and that was all my photography until I got the 70-200, and this has become my primary lens for portraits
The RF 28-70 f2.0 is on my camera for 90% of portrait shoots these days. I'd argue it's the best all-round lens that Canon currently make due its versatility. Especially handy in the studio with strobes as your usually shooting stopped down quite a bit anyway. The 85 f1.2 is a close second, but you're stuck with a single focal length - that extra bit of light costs some usefulness. Great video, nice comparisons. Keep up the good work 👍
I'm not very experienced, but that's my favorite too - I thought I'd use it once in a while, and its my go-to most of the time now. I also have the 70-200 f2.8 which I like a lot as well. If I were to get a fixed prime, I'd get the 85 1.2, but don't have it currently.
Doesnt have that amazing iq that I would expect, decent but lots of CA and not as sharp as some cheaper lenses that I have. Definitly the most versatile lens that I have though. I want to get the 24-105mm for more reach.
@@JamesReaderI resisted the 28-70 as long as I could mostly because I couldn’t stomach spending that much money on a “boring standard zoom.” When it finally went on a good discount, I caved, and now I love boring! With the 28-70 on one hip and the Sigma Art 105 f/1.4 on the other, I can work fast from wide environmentals to tight headshots without any interruptions, and the results just blow my mind.
Lens details aside, this may be the best focal length comparison video I’ve seen. You keep everything consistent and show the working distance implications very clearly. Nice work! Now, you chose nice evenly lit backgrounds, as you should, but what happens with more challenging high contrast busy backgrounds? I have the 85 f/2 which is remarkably good, amazing really, but such backgrounds get pretty messy and distracting vs. my better EF mount primes. I’ve noticed my friend’s RF 70-200 similarly suffers (his RF 50 f/1.2 does not.)
Thank you so much, that’s really kind. I have noticed the same with say the RF 50mm 1.8 against the 50mm 1.2 in regards to taking more busy contrasty backgrounds
Great video. I love the 50mm 1.2 and 85mm 1.2 personally. I bought the RF 50mm 1.2 L though because I'm not sure how many L lenses I will ever own. I like the versatility of the 50mm and I also like being a little closer to my sometimes high school senior subjects and couples so I can give more direction if needed.
Brilliant video, as usual! Not only do we get a detailed comparison of the Canon RF L lenses' characteristics, but also a masterclass on the importance of focal length in general. The mood truly changes with the focal length, and the fact that you make expressive and artistic photos is paramount. Thanks for the insightful content! It would be interesting also to compare the older STM lenses.
I picked up the 135 a couple of weeks ago and the results are simply amazing. I always wanted the ef version but couldn’t afford it finally managed the rf and I love it
When I shot Nikon film cameras, my favorite portrait lens was the Nikkor 105mm f/2.5. That was then, this is now, and I just purchased the Canon R6 II with the 24mm - 105 mm zoom lens. I love the look of the Canon 85mm f/1.2. Wondering if the Canon 135mm f/1.8 makes more sense because it also extends my range past the zoom. I never miss your channel updates. You videos are well thought-out and clearly presented, a treat for RUclips. A lovely model makes it a pleasure to review your lens tests. Thanks.
Thank you so much for the kind words! Choosing between the 85 1.2 and the 135mm 1.8 is one of the hardest choices on RF mount. I think the extra reach of the 135mm could indeed make it the sensible choice for you. I would highly recommend renting both if that's a possibility for you.
11:58 I really like how you demonstrated the sharpness of the eye according to each lens tested in this video. Super cool to see a thumbnail of the lens used in relation to the photo it took.
I love the 28 to 70 f2. I cannot believe it's not a part of this video. I shot a wedding solo last month and other than arriving early and grabbing an empty venue shot fom the balcony with my 15 to 35, that lens was never off my camera. For senior portraits save the date photos and the like the 28 to 70 is also my go-to lens. My other two lenses are the 15 to 35 f2.8 and the 70 to 200 f2.8 but they see little use.
@@grahamfloyd3451 I believe if you search around various RUclips wedding photography influencers you'll find that the 28 to 70 f2 has replaced many primes. It is said to be, and I can confirm from my own use, it's as sharp as a tack. It's expensive but not as expensive as three separate primes.
I had to move from watching on my iPhone to full screen on my 48" OLED to really appreciate the shots you took. The 85mm created the best background separation in my opinion, but the 135 was even more flattering on the subject. If Canon made a 135 1.4 I think that would give us the best of both background separation and subject rendering. Well done my friend.
I absolutely love that 135... trouble is, for full-body shots, you need a model who understands semaphores 😉 Since you were talking about missing a 100-105 in that lineup, I can vouch for the RF 100mm macro; although it's f2.8, it's razor sharp, and the SA-control ring can add some pleasing effects you won't get from other RF lenses (it's not magic though - depending on background, those effects can vary from beautiful to rubbish, so play with the dial a bit to find your sweet spot) . Just a thought!
This was really helpful James, I think you gravitate as you get more experience into these longer focal lengths for portraits. The sharpness comparison was super helpful too. Some of the prices have forced me into vintage glass, but it’s worked out well and I’ve found some 1970/1980 adapted lenses amazing for the money.
Such a great video which gives you real life examples for all these RF lenses! I appreciate the raw files as well so I can take a closer look for myself.
Other than the 35mm, I have and love all of these lenses, and use them with an R3. Your comparison was a useful reminder of how each has its own unique characteristics and use cases-I really enjoyed it! Because it’s a zoom lens, I see the 70-200 as a different beast in a different realm, and I tend to only use it when I need the flexibility of a zoom or don’t want to carry multiple lenses. I use the 50mm the least because I’m shy and prefer more distance from my subjects; that said, I believe it has the most unique look and bokeh of the lot, and I love it for that. I use the 85mm the most-it’s my favorite all-around focal length for a real-world view of what I feel I can see and focus on with my own eyes. It is SHARP, and the colors and contrast are about as perfect as it gets. The 135mm is amazing, and a favorite for street photography (yes, I said it-I’m shy) and candid shots of family and friends. It’s great indoors and allows me to get great shots without interfering with the action.
Great video as always!! I've been agonizing over the choice of the RF 135 or 70-200 for months. Pulled the trigger on the 135 today and hope I don't get regret it! Although the versatility of the 70-200 is compelling -- especially for the occasional wedding I do -- I just much prefer the look of a prime at the end of the day. I love the look of the 135mm and have felt a big gap in my kit since I sold the EF version a year ago.
I don’t classify myself as a portrait photographer, but I have always watched your reviews with great interest. You are always incisive and incredibly helpful. James have you tested the RF 100 f2.8 macro, I note that some people find it useful for portraits!
I bought into the RF mount starting with the 15-35 and 70-200 2.8 pair which made them great for packing tight for travel (light is maybe stretching it but i can get away with a small messenger bag.) I then also got the 50 1.2 and 85 f2. In my use cases: the 70-200 is great because it is a sharp and compact telezoom covering any tight portrait needs the 50 1.2 is a great lens to also catch some of the context but still achieve great blur, plus it is not excessively wide like the 85 1.2 the 85 f2 is not in the same league as the 1.2 but is almost there while being cheaper lighter and provides a 1:2 macro which made me take it out more often. I was sitting with both in my hand at the camera store and decided that if i get the 1.2 it will likely see the light of day very rarely as I do not shoot professionally anymore. If i still shot professionally i might end up with the entire 50-85-135 set if i had the static sets to make them work.
Brilliant comparison, James!! I have the RF50 1.2, RF100 2.8 Macro, and RF135 1.8, and they are all fantastically sharp. The RF85 1.2 looks so compelling, but I feel like I’ve got that focal length nearly surrounded. If it weren’t so bulky…
Another GREAT upload James! I'm so happy I chose to go with the 135mm 1.8 over the 85mm 1.2. Quality wise, I think the 135mm 1.8 is slightly, VERY slightly under the 85mm 1.2. But overall, I don't think anyone would regret going with the 135 over the 85. Mind you, I still believe the 85mm 1.2 is the best lens in the canon lineup!
James! Fantastic video, I own 3 out of the 5 lenses and gave a better perpective on the overall quality of each lens, also as you said they are all fantastic lenses, keep up the good work!
I love your comparison videos. They are very well done with great side-by-sides. The 85 is beautiful but, the 70-200 is surprisingly good. That is such a versatile lens! I'd be curious to get your thoughts/see a future evaluation of the Canon RF 100 f2.8L macro for portraits. I always hear it pointed out that while designed for macro, it can be good for portraits. Perhaps f2.8 just isn't wide enough. However, seeing 135 f1.8 and 200 f2.8, how far off is it? I'm sure that it will lose points on bokeh but, would you ever consider using it for portraits (if you didn't have any of the lenses in this video on you)? Might be interesting to see a comparison to see if you could get away with it.
Thank you so much Thomas! I briefly owned the RF 100mm 2.8 and it was fantastic. I think it would fair very well against any of the lenses in this comparison in terms of sharpness, it was incredibly sharp edge to edge. I used it exclusively for studio portraits, beauty work and macro photography though. I eventually let it go because I had it covered already with the 70-200 2.8. It’s definitely on my list to own again in the near future. 100mm really is the sweet spot for headshots.
It's better than the 85 imo... the 85 is too blurry and it makes the photographer "lazy" too. Could've been in a public bathroom taking a pic. You need some visual of the foliage so step it down to give some texture and scenery. Why go to a nice park or beach if you're going to just 1.2 all your portraits?
Waited this vidéo for age ! 😍 This is so real life comparison. The choice of 3 distances is perfect. But in my opinion, you should include a foreground next time if this is possible. This is where the f1.2s (especially the 85) always shine more and show something I do not see with another kind of lens.
I used to own an EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS Mk1 and it was superb for portaits. Several generations on, this latest RF version looks to be the clear choice, if you have the funds for just one of these lenses.
I love the dreaminess of the 85mm! I just bought the RF 35mm 1.4 because I was having issues with my EF mount Sigma Art 35. My next goal is the RF 85mm 1.2. Thanks for this video!
Hey James, I would be extremely interested in seeing how you edit your photos in Lightroom. I think it would be a fantastic video idea. Love the content man!
I'm very grateful for this type of comparison video (even though I can't afford any of these lenses, haha). Your down-to-earth delivery makes them so easy to watch.
Really nice and helpful comparison. Thanks James and Rachel of course. Your videos help me a lot everytime when I'm looking for something that I am not able to try before buy. Ahh and of course thx for the RAW files as well. Once if you gonna sell your R5, drop me a message than I sell my R6 and buying your workhorse :)
Sick video! I've got the 85 2.0, and it feels absolutely stunning! Can only recommend it aswell, if you're a bit on a budget. Having the 35 1.8 aswell, but that feels very situational. Just in use, when the location is absolutely amazing, where it also fits to take lots of space in the picture
Could you please show the comparison between Canon RF 135mm f1.8 on the Canon R7 crop sensor vs Canon RF 70-200 f2.8 at 200mm on any of the full frame R series you have, I'm really curious to see the difference, I pair RF 135mm f1.8 with my Canon R7 at 216mm due to its 1.6X crop factor. I love this lens, especially for head and mid-body shots as how it renders the background blur. I believe most of professional portrait photographers don't use such a long focal length. I haven't seen any professional photographers showing R7 with a 135mm RF version. But I've watched your video about R6 vs R7 comparing between 35mm, 50mm and 85mm.
Fantastic video, just what I was looking for! Less so for portraits but I really think Canon need to get a good 24 1.4 or 1.2 on the cards next. I’d also be interested to see an RF 200 f2.0, but that’s more so that some people sell off their ef 200 f2.0 so I can be within reach of getting one!
What a great review. Full of information and detailed observations of the results . In terms of the missing 100mm prime - would the RF 100mm macro be an option?
I have the 70-200 2.8, and I love this lens. It's so versatile. But this video really helped me pick what's next on my RF acquisition mission! I don't want much overlap in my arsenal, so I'll probably go for the 50mm, but I really liked the rendering of the 85. It's a gorgeous lens that will literally break the bank and your wrist haha.
Hi James, thanks for the vid, and the comparisons. The results are as I expected. My fav portraits on Canon is the RF50L. However, for an all arounder fav portrait lens my pick is the Tamron/Samyang 35-150mm f2-2.8. Since there's no RF mount for this lens, I picked up the A7iv. It would be nice to see how it stacks up against the RF glass.
Such a great, thorough review! Really appreciate your work. I love the look of the 85 and 135. I suppose if you need versatility, the 70-200 should be your choice. But it's worth noting that you have to be at like 135mm+ to get any good bokeh/creamy background shots. 50 and 135 would be a good minimal prime kit I think. Such a hard decision between these. 85 will always be king I think.
The swirly background bokeh is rather an effect of an optical flaw, the fact that the roundish bokeh is cut off closer to the edge due to restrictions at any aperture within the optical system.
that 85 will always be the overall winner but the price point between the 135 and the 85 makes it a hard choice. both very similar if distance isnt a problem (which it usually is)
My beloved combo for portraits are Sigmas 40/1.4 and 105/1.4. RF 85/1.2 is great too yet I like the bit longer Sigma more. 28-70/2 is amazingly versatile zoom but it trails well behind Sigmas in terms of the IQ (and aperture of course). Those Sigmas are even perfectly usable on Fuji GFX format without any problems. Which is absolutely staggering considering their price...
Another superb video, James, as always...😊 What's your view of using 100mm Macro lens F2.8 for portrait? As I know, this lens delivers stunning detail, inceedibly sharp and no distortion with great bokeh.
1. This such a good video, thanks 2. I use RF 70-200 2.8 and it's every bit as good as you say, super sharp but needs distance. for me that's good 3. I do fantasize 85mm 1.2 at times but it's hard to justify after having aforementioned zoom. 85mm is a big lens and gonna weigh me down if i carry it along with the zoom. it's not particularly affordable as well. Either choose the zoom or 85mm1.2 but having both hardly makes any sense, it's redundant... for the most part for my use case
Thank you so much! The biggest downside of the 85 for me is the size and weight. It’s a heavy lens. The results are worth it but I have issues with wrist pain and this lens is the worse culprit for it!
I'm happy I've found your video. In the next weeks I need to rent a portrait lens for a family and friends shoot. I don't have any portrait experience and after your video, I'm pretty locked in renting the 85mm 1.2. Any thoughts on the 24-70mm 2.8 or 28-70mm f2?
Thank you James for this awesome comparison, not to defend my purchase, but could it be the case that you missed the shot on the 50mm? I have the 50mm 1.2 and the 70-200mm 2.8 and the 50mm is definitely sharper. The 85mm is after all I've read the sharpest in the bunch, yes.
I own all these lenses except for the new RF 35 1.4 where I have the EF version. All in all the RF 85mm f/1.2 L USM is my most used lens for all these shots! It gives me the most natural looking proportions for the model and the background separation is just beautiful. With the RF 135mm f/1.8 L IS USM faces start to look a little to wide and flat for my personal taste (depends on the model). The least used lens is my RF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM... it might be that I will sell the lens despite I love the compact design and the flexiblity.
If I could choose just one it would probably be 50mm as it is very versatile. What I would love to see is RF 200mm f 1.8 or f 2 one day. Technically RF 85mm f 1.2 L is probably the best lens that Canon has ever created. I love that 3D pop look. For some reason I do not like 35mm rendering that much. Wish they'd make photography version RF 35mm f 1.2 L.
My favorite lens is the 85mm 1.2 which I keep in my bag at all times. The other RF glass that I use is the RF 28-70 f/2.8. However my bokeh master is the Sigma 105 F/1.4 and these are the lenes ntha go with me on all shoots. I do love the glass that you have used bexause they are all some of the best lenses for the RF full frame cameras.
Great comparison video James. I only have the 70-200 from those shown. Absolutely love it and it is on my R5 95% of the time. As a hobbyist I have no need for the 85mm f/1.2 however it would be my next lens to replace the RF85mm f/2 which I use occasionally.
Thank you for the review. I like portraits at 1.8 more actually. 1.2 is too shallow of DoF for me personally. As far as focal length goes, from that set I would go with 135. 105 would be ideal though ...
As beautifully sharp as the 85 is, something about the 70-200 just blows me away everytime I use it. The fact it covers both the 85 and 135, it's a no brainer for me on that list. However my 24-70 RF lives on my camera for😊
I don’t own it but the RF 85 1.2 was the best lens I’ve ever used. I have the EF version now but eventually I’m trying to get the RF. The 50 is my favorite lens I own though. 24-70 is my workhorse and same with my 15-35 before I got the 24-70. The 50 is just magic though. The 35 1.4 is my next on the list and then upgrade the body to the R5 mk II since I’m shooting on the original R. After that I’ll try for the RF 85 1.2. Great comparison. I feel like the 135 is really specialized so unless you know you need that lens the working distance is too far for me.
Thank you for watching Kevin! Really glad you're loving the 50mm. It's my favourite lens I own for sure. I recently sold my 24-70 and hugely regret it. The 50+24-70 is a great do it all combo.
@@JamesReader yeah my 24-70 is my latest RF purchase and it’s been glued to my camera ever since. I still make it a point to take the 50 though on street photography walks because I love its rendering so much. But at a street festival in Chicago the 24-70 has been so damn versatile it’s hard to bring anything else. For portraits the 50 and 85 have been my go tos.
Still unsure between the RF 50mm f/1.2 and RF 85mm f/1.2. Have watched all your videos where you discuss these two lenses. But this causes more and more doubts about choice. Not the cheapest lenses either. Which of these two should you purchase first? Thank you for your videos! Also a compliment to the model!
50 without a doubt - it is much more versatile focal lenght, IQ is perfect and it is much easier to work with than 85. Of course, 85 is brilliant also :)
Thank you so much! What other lenses do you have in your collection? For a single lens setup it's so hard to beat the 50mm 1.2. That's the route I went and was more than happy with just that lens for well over a year, building the majority of my portfolio with it.
@@JamesReader I have bought first EOS R body to use with my EF glass which I thought was great - I have 35/1.4L (1st version), 85/1.2L and 135/2L and 100L Macro. After I saw the reviews, I bought RF 50/1.2L and it become my most used lens. I then added RF 85/1.2L, and 135/1.8L, but for me most usable is still 50L.
Over $12,000 worth of lenses there. Thats wild. I have gone back to EF lenses for my R7 because the RF lenses are just absurdly priced. This is a great video though!
Easily one of the best James Reader videos yet. Bonus points to your wife for always helping you out making these comparisons ! I've shot all the EF counterparts but feel like I"m starting all over again with RF.
That's so awesome to hear, thank you so much. I didn't feel too confident in this video when I uploaded it so that's really reassuring.
My choice of lens depends on:
a) the shape of my client’s head.
b) How much of the background I want in the image.
Amazing video!!! Concise and The best comparison I’ve seen
Thank you so much!
i have 70-200 2.8 and 50 1.2. my very first portrait lens i bought was the 85 1.8 and that was all my photography until I got the 70-200, and this has become my primary lens for portraits
Love seeing this review including the brand new rf 35 1.4! Interesting result comparing sharpness to 50!
The RF 28-70 f2.0 is on my camera for 90% of portrait shoots these days. I'd argue it's the best all-round lens that Canon currently make due its versatility. Especially handy in the studio with strobes as your usually shooting stopped down quite a bit anyway. The 85 f1.2 is a close second, but you're stuck with a single focal length - that extra bit of light costs some usefulness. Great video, nice comparisons. Keep up the good work 👍
I'm not very experienced, but that's my favorite too - I thought I'd use it once in a while, and its my go-to most of the time now. I also have the 70-200 f2.8 which I like a lot as well. If I were to get a fixed prime, I'd get the 85 1.2, but don't have it currently.
Same here. But I did get the 85 f1.2 after renting it for a week, and it’s just magical. I use it for most headshots and for videos too.
Thanks so much Stew! The 28-70 really is incredible. I've almost pulled the trigger on that lens many times.
Doesnt have that amazing iq that I would expect, decent but lots of CA and not as sharp as some cheaper lenses that I have. Definitly the most versatile lens that I have though. I want to get the 24-105mm for more reach.
@@JamesReaderI resisted the 28-70 as long as I could mostly because I couldn’t stomach spending that much money on a “boring standard zoom.” When it finally went on a good discount, I caved, and now I love boring! With the 28-70 on one hip and the Sigma Art 105 f/1.4 on the other, I can work fast from wide environmentals to tight headshots without any interruptions, and the results just blow my mind.
i love that 135mm 1.8 🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's so good Brandon! Thank you for watching
First one: 85 and 135 tied. Second one: 135. Third one: 85. And sharpness, 85. What an amazing comparison. Thanks so much!
Lens details aside, this may be the best focal length comparison video I’ve seen. You keep everything consistent and show the working distance implications very clearly. Nice work! Now, you chose nice evenly lit backgrounds, as you should, but what happens with more challenging high contrast busy backgrounds? I have the 85 f/2 which is remarkably good, amazing really, but such backgrounds get pretty messy and distracting vs. my better EF mount primes. I’ve noticed my friend’s RF 70-200 similarly suffers (his RF 50 f/1.2 does not.)
Thank you so much, that’s really kind. I have noticed the same with say the RF 50mm 1.8 against the 50mm 1.2 in regards to taking more busy contrasty backgrounds
I loved the results from 85 f 1.2 so perfect
Agreed!!
other than the fact that it's absolutely freaking massive!
85 & 135 are my faves. Just amazing results.
I like the look from 85mm f1.2 all round, fantastic work
The 85 is so good - thank you for watching!
Great video. I love the 50mm 1.2 and 85mm 1.2 personally. I bought the RF 50mm 1.2 L though because I'm not sure how many L lenses I will ever own. I like the versatility of the 50mm and I also like being a little closer to my sometimes high school senior subjects and couples so I can give more direction if needed.
50 1,2 is my favourite for sure.. in terms of the look and the size of the lens
Brilliant video, as usual! Not only do we get a detailed comparison of the Canon RF L lenses' characteristics, but also a masterclass on the importance of focal length in general. The mood truly changes with the focal length, and the fact that you make expressive and artistic photos is paramount. Thanks for the insightful content! It would be interesting also to compare the older STM lenses.
@@blaspayri thank you so much Blas! Working on a version for budget RF lenses soon including some STM options.
I picked up the 135 a couple of weeks ago and the results are simply amazing. I always wanted the ef version but couldn’t afford it finally managed the rf and I love it
When I shot Nikon film cameras, my favorite portrait lens was the Nikkor 105mm f/2.5. That was then, this is now, and I just purchased the Canon R6 II with the 24mm - 105 mm zoom lens. I love the look of the Canon 85mm f/1.2. Wondering if the Canon 135mm f/1.8 makes more sense because it also extends my range past the zoom. I never miss your channel updates. You videos are well thought-out and clearly presented, a treat for RUclips. A lovely model makes it a pleasure to review your lens tests. Thanks.
Thank you so much for the kind words! Choosing between the 85 1.2 and the 135mm 1.8 is one of the hardest choices on RF mount. I think the extra reach of the 135mm could indeed make it the sensible choice for you. I would highly recommend renting both if that's a possibility for you.
Great video, James. Also big shout out to Rachel for her posting and patience with all the switching of lenses.
Thank you! I'm very lucky, videos like this just wouldn't be possible without her.
11:58 I really like how you demonstrated the sharpness of the eye according to each lens tested in this video. Super cool to see a thumbnail of the lens used in relation to the photo it took.
I love the 28 to 70 f2. I cannot believe it's not a part of this video. I shot a wedding solo last month and other than arriving early and grabbing an empty venue shot fom the balcony with my 15 to 35, that lens was never off my camera.
For senior portraits save the date photos and the like the 28 to 70 is also my go-to lens. My other two lenses are the 15 to 35 f2.8 and the 70 to 200 f2.8 but they see little use.
Maybe cuz it's not as sharp to be a contender? The best lens is always the one in your hands of course.
@@grahamfloyd3451 I believe if you search around various RUclips wedding photography influencers you'll find that the 28 to 70 f2 has replaced many primes. It is said to be, and I can confirm from my own use, it's as sharp as a tack. It's expensive but not as expensive as three separate primes.
I had to move from watching on my iPhone to full screen on my 48" OLED to really appreciate the shots you took. The 85mm created the best background separation in my opinion, but the 135 was even more flattering on the subject. If Canon made a 135 1.4 I think that would give us the best of both background separation and subject rendering. Well done my friend.
Thank you so much Jared!
I have been watching your videos since I started looking for a camera, and I must say, Mrs. Reader is my favorite model.
Thank you so much! She is my favourite too
I absolutely love that 135... trouble is, for full-body shots, you need a model who understands semaphores 😉
Since you were talking about missing a 100-105 in that lineup, I can vouch for the RF 100mm macro; although it's f2.8, it's razor sharp, and the SA-control ring can add some pleasing effects you won't get from other RF lenses (it's not magic though - depending on background, those effects can vary from beautiful to rubbish, so play with the dial a bit to find your sweet spot) . Just a thought!
This was really helpful James, I think you gravitate as you get more experience into these longer focal lengths for portraits. The sharpness comparison was super helpful too. Some of the prices have forced me into vintage glass, but it’s worked out well and I’ve found some 1970/1980 adapted lenses amazing for the money.
Best thing of the video is the compared images of all the glasses . To me , 85 mm 1.2 seems a perfect balance for background as well the face .
Such a great video which gives you real life examples for all these RF lenses! I appreciate the raw files as well so I can take a closer look for myself.
Thank you so much Jack!
This is such a great video! Congratulations on answering so many questions in just under 15 minutes! Awsome work!
Thank you so much!
Thank you James for a fantastic video, would be nice to compare the 24-105 2.8 with these gems
Wow！Excellent comparison I couldn’t find anywhere else except here! Thank you so much for your hard work, James!
Other than the 35mm, I have and love all of these lenses, and use them with an R3. Your comparison was a useful reminder of how each has its own unique characteristics and use cases-I really enjoyed it!
Because it’s a zoom lens, I see the 70-200 as a different beast in a different realm, and I tend to only use it when I need the flexibility of a zoom or don’t want to carry multiple lenses. I use the 50mm the least because I’m shy and prefer more distance from my subjects; that said, I believe it has the most unique look and bokeh of the lot, and I love it for that. I use the 85mm the most-it’s my favorite all-around focal length for a real-world view of what I feel I can see and focus on with my own eyes. It is SHARP, and the colors and contrast are about as perfect as it gets. The 135mm is amazing, and a favorite for street photography (yes, I said it-I’m shy) and candid shots of family and friends. It’s great indoors and allows me to get great shots without interfering with the action.
My favorite portrait lens in my kit is the RF 85mm 1.2. I love the buttery bokeh, and very minimal chromatic aberration.
Great video as always!! I've been agonizing over the choice of the RF 135 or 70-200 for months. Pulled the trigger on the 135 today and hope I don't get regret it! Although the versatility of the 70-200 is compelling -- especially for the occasional wedding I do -- I just much prefer the look of a prime at the end of the day. I love the look of the 135mm and have felt a big gap in my kit since I sold the EF version a year ago.
I hope you loved the 135. It’s my favorite lens I own.
Thank you man! you are helping a lot of us to decide which focal lenght we want. Well done :)
Thank you for watching! Really glad the video helps
I don’t classify myself as a portrait photographer, but I have always watched your reviews with great interest. You are always incisive and incredibly helpful. James have you tested the RF 100 f2.8 macro, I note that some people find it useful for portraits!
Thank you so much!
I bought into the RF mount starting with the 15-35 and 70-200 2.8 pair which made them great for packing tight for travel (light is maybe stretching it but i can get away with a small messenger bag.) I then also got the 50 1.2 and 85 f2.
In my use cases:
the 70-200 is great because it is a sharp and compact telezoom covering any tight portrait needs
the 50 1.2 is a great lens to also catch some of the context but still achieve great blur, plus it is not excessively wide like the 85 1.2
the 85 f2 is not in the same league as the 1.2 but is almost there while being cheaper lighter and provides a 1:2 macro which made me take it out more often. I was sitting with both in my hand at the camera store and decided that if i get the 1.2 it will likely see the light of day very rarely as I do not shoot professionally anymore.
If i still shot professionally i might end up with the entire 50-85-135 set if i had the static sets to make them work.
Very useful comparison, including showing the distance you had to have for the same results. As a side note you are a lucky man at any focal length 😊
Thank you so much! I am indeed very lucky!
Brilliant comparison, James!! I have the RF50 1.2, RF100 2.8 Macro, and RF135 1.8, and they are all fantastically sharp. The RF85 1.2 looks so compelling, but I feel like I’ve got that focal length nearly surrounded. If it weren’t so bulky…
snap :) same picks for me
Same kit too! I can’t get the 85 for the same reason.
Fantastic video!! Thank you!
I own them all so no bias but the 85 was stellar here as usual.
Thank you for watching! Hard to beat that 85mm
I am jealous, give me one !! 😛😛
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Another GREAT upload James!
I'm so happy I chose to go with the 135mm 1.8 over the 85mm 1.2. Quality wise, I think the 135mm 1.8 is slightly, VERY slightly under the 85mm 1.2. But overall, I don't think anyone would regret going with the 135 over the 85. Mind you, I still believe the 85mm 1.2 is the best lens in the canon lineup!
James! Fantastic video, I own 3 out of the 5 lenses and gave a better perpective on the overall quality of each lens, also as you said they are all fantastic lenses, keep up the good work!
I'm not a canon user, but this comparison is totally worth the time to watch! thanks!
Thank you so much!
135 mm is just perfect
I love your comparison videos. They are very well done with great side-by-sides. The 85 is beautiful but, the 70-200 is surprisingly good. That is such a versatile lens!
I'd be curious to get your thoughts/see a future evaluation of the Canon RF 100 f2.8L macro for portraits. I always hear it pointed out that while designed for macro, it can be good for portraits. Perhaps f2.8 just isn't wide enough. However, seeing 135 f1.8 and 200 f2.8, how far off is it? I'm sure that it will lose points on bokeh but, would you ever consider using it for portraits (if you didn't have any of the lenses in this video on you)? Might be interesting to see a comparison to see if you could get away with it.
Thank you so much Thomas! I briefly owned the RF 100mm 2.8 and it was fantastic. I think it would fair very well against any of the lenses in this comparison in terms of sharpness, it was incredibly sharp edge to edge. I used it exclusively for studio portraits, beauty work and macro photography though. I eventually let it go because I had it covered already with the 70-200 2.8. It’s definitely on my list to own again in the near future. 100mm really is the sweet spot for headshots.
I use RF135 for most of outdoor portraits.
It's stunning for outdoor portraits!
It's better than the 85 imo... the 85 is too blurry and it makes the photographer "lazy" too. Could've been in a public bathroom taking a pic. You need some visual of the foliage so step it down to give some texture and scenery. Why go to a nice park or beach if you're going to just 1.2 all your portraits?
Great video and you providing the RAW files is amazing. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
Love these vids and especially you providing sample RAWs. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
For me, I loved the 50mm & 135mm for headshots & mid length portraits.
And 35mm & 200mm for full body portraits.
Waited this vidéo for age ! 😍 This is so real life comparison. The choice of 3 distances is perfect. But in my opinion, you should include a foreground next time if this is possible. This is where the f1.2s (especially the 85) always shine more and show something I do not see with another kind of lens.
Thank you! That's a great idea, very true regarding foreground bokeh on the 1.2s
I used to own an EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS Mk1 and it was superb for portaits. Several generations on, this latest RF version looks to be the clear choice, if you have the funds for just one of these lenses.
I love the dreaminess of the 85mm! I just bought the RF 35mm 1.4 because I was having issues with my EF mount Sigma Art 35. My next goal is the RF 85mm 1.2. Thanks for this video!
Hey James, I would be extremely interested in seeing how you edit your photos in Lightroom. I think it would be a fantastic video idea. Love the content man!
Thank you so much! Definitely working on something like that soon. Cheers Kyle!
Great video! Love the side by side comparisons!
I'm very grateful for this type of comparison video (even though I can't afford any of these lenses, haha). Your down-to-earth delivery makes them so easy to watch.
Thank you so much Matt!
Really nice and helpful comparison. Thanks James and Rachel of course. Your videos help me a lot everytime when I'm looking for something that I am not able to try before buy. Ahh and of course thx for the RAW files as well. Once if you gonna sell your R5, drop me a message than I sell my R6 and buying your workhorse :)
Thank you so much! Really glad you liked the video. I’m probably selling my beloved R5 in the next few weeks! Will be sad to see it go
thanks for a thorough vid, showing the working distance, keeping the same comp and background. Quality vid here. Other youtube reviewers should learn
Thank you so much!
Thanks for this comparison, packed with a lot of useful information.
Thank you for watching!
Sick video! I've got the 85 2.0, and it feels absolutely stunning! Can only recommend it aswell, if you're a bit on a budget.
Having the 35 1.8 aswell, but that feels very situational. Just in use, when the location is absolutely amazing, where it also fits to take lots of space in the picture
The 85mm F2 is incredible! Thank you for watching
Could you please show the comparison between Canon RF 135mm f1.8 on the Canon R7 crop sensor vs Canon RF 70-200 f2.8 at 200mm on any of the full frame R series you have, I'm really curious to see the difference, I pair RF 135mm f1.8 with my Canon R7 at 216mm due to its 1.6X crop factor. I love this lens, especially for head and mid-body shots as how it renders the background blur. I believe most of professional portrait photographers don't use such a long focal length. I haven't seen any professional photographers showing R7 with a 135mm RF version. But I've watched your video about R6 vs R7 comparing between 35mm, 50mm and 85mm.
I would suggest to get Canon RF 28-70mm F2 . it is prime lens from 28 to 70 focal length, it is damn sharp with beautiful background separation.
Amazing lens!
Fantastic video, just what I was looking for!
Less so for portraits but I really think Canon need to get a good 24 1.4 or 1.2 on the cards next. I’d also be interested to see an RF 200 f2.0, but that’s more so that some people sell off their ef 200 f2.0 so I can be within reach of getting one!
What a great review. Full of information and detailed observations of the results . In terms of the missing 100mm prime - would the RF 100mm macro be an option?
I have the 70-200 2.8, and I love this lens. It's so versatile. But this video really helped me pick what's next on my RF acquisition mission! I don't want much overlap in my arsenal, so I'll probably go for the 50mm, but I really liked the rendering of the 85. It's a gorgeous lens that will literally break the bank and your wrist haha.
I think you’re gonna really love the 50. It’s my favourite lens and a perfect pairing with the 70-200!
the 50 1.2 and 85 1.2 just look amazing
Agreed! Such awesome lenses
Hi James, thanks for the vid, and the comparisons. The results are as I expected. My fav portraits on Canon is the RF50L. However, for an all arounder fav portrait lens my pick is the Tamron/Samyang 35-150mm f2-2.8. Since there's no RF mount for this lens, I picked up the A7iv. It would be nice to see how it stacks up against the RF glass.
Such a great, thorough review! Really appreciate your work.
I love the look of the 85 and 135. I suppose if you need versatility, the 70-200 should be your choice. But it's worth noting that you have to be at like 135mm+ to get any good bokeh/creamy background shots. 50 and 135 would be a good minimal prime kit I think. Such a hard decision between these. 85 will always be king I think.
Thank you for watching!
The swirly background bokeh is rather an effect of an optical flaw, the fact that the roundish bokeh is cut off closer to the edge due to restrictions at any aperture within the optical system.
Interesting! I assumed it was down to the small front elements of the 35mm and 50mm.
Thanks James, a great comparison done well
Thank you Samuel!
that 85 will always be the overall winner but the price point between the 135 and the 85 makes it a hard choice. both very similar if distance isnt a problem (which it usually is)
My man. You would love the sigma 105. I adapt it and it’s wonderful.
My go to is either my RF 85 1.2 or RF135 1.8.
Incredible lenses! Would be awesome to have both.
My beloved combo for portraits are Sigmas 40/1.4 and 105/1.4. RF 85/1.2 is great too yet I like the bit longer Sigma more. 28-70/2 is amazingly versatile zoom but it trails well behind Sigmas in terms of the IQ (and aperture of course).
Those Sigmas are even perfectly usable on Fuji GFX format without any problems. Which is absolutely staggering considering their price...
The Sigma 40mm is one of the best lenses I have ever used. I have been meaning to make a video on it for a long time
Another superb video, James, as always...😊 What's your view of using 100mm Macro lens F2.8 for portrait? As I know, this lens delivers stunning detail, inceedibly sharp and no distortion with great bokeh.
Thank you so much! I think the 100mm 2.8 is awesome for portraits. It's one of the sharpest RF lenses too. The lens is definitely on my wish list.
1. This such a good video, thanks
2. I use RF 70-200 2.8 and it's every bit as good as you say, super sharp but needs distance. for me that's good
3. I do fantasize 85mm 1.2 at times but it's hard to justify after having aforementioned zoom. 85mm is a big lens and gonna weigh me down if i carry it along with the zoom. it's not particularly affordable as well. Either choose the zoom or 85mm1.2 but having both hardly makes any sense, it's redundant... for the most part for my use case
Thank you so much! The biggest downside of the 85 for me is the size and weight. It’s a heavy lens. The results are worth it but I have issues with wrist pain and this lens is the worse culprit for it!
Hello James! Best video as always 😊 How about RF85 1.2 DS? I’m struggling is the DS better or the regular 1.2🤔
Another great video..
Will you possibly consider doing a budget version of the same video? Comparing the 35f1.8, 50f1.8 and 85f2 or more..
Thanks
Thank you for watching! I have something similar for the budget lenses in the works.
Fanstastic review! It would be interesting to compare it with other systems like Nikon/Sony. Ultimate lens review :)
That would be awesome! If I can get my borrow some other camera systems I’ll definitely do this!
I'm happy I've found your video. In the next weeks I need to rent a portrait lens for a family and friends shoot. I don't have any portrait experience and after your video, I'm pretty locked in renting the 85mm 1.2. Any thoughts on the 24-70mm 2.8 or 28-70mm f2?
Thank you James for this awesome comparison, not to defend my purchase, but could it be the case that you missed the shot on the 50mm? I have the 50mm 1.2 and the 70-200mm 2.8 and the 50mm is definitely sharper. The 85mm is after all I've read the sharpest in the bunch, yes.
liked the 70 and the 135 for the first comparison, 135 and the 70 for the second comparison. I would pick the 135 for the price and the clarity
The 135mm is hard to beat!
This is a really good comparison! Very useful. Thank you!
Thank you so much Dan!
Add a RF 100mm F2.8 macro to this and play with the soft focus control to smooth out skin and make her glow.
I own all these lenses except for the new RF 35 1.4 where I have the EF version.
All in all the RF 85mm f/1.2 L USM is my most used lens for all these shots! It gives me the most natural looking proportions for the model and the background separation is just beautiful.
With the RF 135mm f/1.8 L IS USM faces start to look a little to wide and flat for my personal taste (depends on the model).
The least used lens is my RF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM... it might be that I will sell the lens despite I love the compact design and the flexiblity.
Great video man, thanks. Just subscribed.
Thank you so much!
Thanks very much for the video, James! Was debating between getting the 35 and the 50, and will be picking up the 50, thanks again!
Thank you for watching! You're gonna love that 50mm
If I could choose just one it would probably be 50mm as it is very versatile. What I would love to see is RF 200mm f 1.8 or f 2 one day. Technically RF 85mm f 1.2 L is probably the best lens that Canon has ever created. I love that 3D pop look. For some reason I do not like 35mm rendering that much. Wish they'd make photography version RF 35mm f 1.2 L.
I think we'll see a 200mm 1.8 on RF mount in a year or two. That would be epic! (but probably huge and heavy haha!).
I ALREADY HAVE 35 85 & 70-200 2.8 ALL IS MY FAVOURITE
Very very very nice comparison and sharing🎉🎉🎉 Very useful
Thank you so much!
A valuable resource. Subscribed and thanks
Thank you so much!
Canon Rf 85mm 1.2 is a dream lens for portraits.
My favorite lens is the 85mm 1.2 which I keep in my bag at all times. The other RF glass that I use is the RF 28-70 f/2.8. However my bokeh master is the Sigma 105 F/1.4 and these are the lenes ntha go with me on all shoots. I do love the glass that you have used bexause they are all some of the best lenses for the RF full frame cameras.
Great comparison video James. I only have the 70-200 from those shown. Absolutely love it and it is on my R5 95% of the time. As a hobbyist I have no need for the 85mm f/1.2 however it would be my next lens to replace the RF85mm f/2 which I use occasionally.
Thank you Mark! Canon did a great job with this 70-200. Great performance and so versatile.
After testing on my side I agree 85mm 1.2 is the KING of outdoor Portaits but 50mm 1.2 wins indoor where space is limited :)
50 and 135 are two must))
Great combo!
Thank you for the review. I like portraits at 1.8 more actually. 1.2 is too shallow of DoF for me personally. As far as focal length goes, from that set I would go with 135. 105 would be ideal though ...
The 135 is incredible! Thank you for watching
As beautifully sharp as the 85 is, something about the 70-200 just blows me away everytime I use it. The fact it covers both the 85 and 135, it's a no brainer for me on that list. However my 24-70 RF lives on my camera for😊
Excellent review
Thank you so much!
stunning content 🥰
Thanks so much!
I don’t own it but the RF 85 1.2 was the best lens I’ve ever used. I have the EF version now but eventually I’m trying to get the RF.
The 50 is my favorite lens I own though. 24-70 is my workhorse and same with my 15-35 before I got the 24-70. The 50 is just magic though.
The 35 1.4 is my next on the list and then upgrade the body to the R5 mk II since I’m shooting on the original R. After that I’ll try for the RF 85 1.2.
Great comparison. I feel like the 135 is really specialized so unless you know you need that lens the working distance is too far for me.
Thank you for watching Kevin! Really glad you're loving the 50mm. It's my favourite lens I own for sure. I recently sold my 24-70 and hugely regret it. The 50+24-70 is a great do it all combo.
@@JamesReader yeah my 24-70 is my latest RF purchase and it’s been glued to my camera ever since. I still make it a point to take the 50 though on street photography walks because I love its rendering so much. But at a street festival in Chicago the 24-70 has been so damn versatile it’s hard to bring anything else. For portraits the 50 and 85 have been my go tos.
Still unsure between the RF 50mm f/1.2 and RF 85mm f/1.2.
Have watched all your videos where you discuss these two lenses.
But this causes more and more doubts about choice. Not the cheapest lenses either.
Which of these two should you purchase first?
Thank you for your videos! Also a compliment to the model!
50 without a doubt - it is much more versatile focal lenght, IQ is perfect and it is much easier to work with than 85. Of course, 85 is brilliant also :)
Thank you so much! What other lenses do you have in your collection? For a single lens setup it's so hard to beat the 50mm 1.2. That's the route I went and was more than happy with just that lens for well over a year, building the majority of my portfolio with it.
@@JamesReader In my collection at the moment: EF18-15mm; RF15-35mm; RF24-70mm; RF70-200mm F/2.8; RF100-500mm and EF500mm f/4
@@JamesReader I have bought first EOS R body to use with my EF glass which I thought was great - I have 35/1.4L (1st version), 85/1.2L and 135/2L and 100L Macro. After I saw the reviews, I bought RF 50/1.2L and it become my most used lens. I then added RF 85/1.2L, and 135/1.8L, but for me most usable is still 50L.
was there any noted difference in AF accuracy with any of the lenses when using the eye AF features? thank you!
The model has a lovely smile
Over $12,000 worth of lenses there. Thats wild. I have gone back to EF lenses for my R7 because the RF lenses are just absurdly priced. This is a great video though!