I've just binge watched so many of your videos. You have a brilliant style and your videos are so easy to watch. So much useful info but so easy to digest. As a result I have just ordered an R8 and RF 50mm f1.8. Thanks James, you have been invaluable in this decision and I look forward to many more vids from you!
@@JamesReader +1 on the style you make your videos - they're so engaging and informative, they really invite for a binge watch! :) Already own an R8 with a few RF primes and some older EF lenses, but was still hesitant to sell my old 6D body due to some occasions where I also prefer to use two bodies + primes instead of one body with a zoom. Thanks to your praise of the older EOS R I decided to finally let go of 6D and can now fully migrate to RF system. The info on 35mm and 85mm primes was also very valuable!
I really can't complain about those budget RF lenses, the picture quality is so beautiful. Unless you're pixel peeping you can't tell it's not from an L series lens. As always great video and content👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
After a lot of amateur buyer remorse, I’ve settled to an R8 with a 2 lens set up for travel RF35 F1.8 & RF24-105 F4 Thank you for a very informative video
Hi James, thanks, great video as always - RF 24-105 4.0 is my favourite travel lens, too! I'd be interested to see how the EF 35 2.0 IS USM stands up against the RF 35 1.8 STM.
@@JamesReader I own it, and can confirm it's very sharp even wide open, with almost no CAs - I don't own the RF version, though. The EF's 35 2.0 IS USM AF is instant, very precise and almost silent. Build quality is exellent, with no moving external elements. Also, it has great light transmission (almost T 2.0).
The Tamron EF 1.4 35mm is a wonderful, inexpensive lens and the Tamron EF 24-70 and 70 -200 EF are both excellent. I have been using them with the EOS R since the camera was released and I have been very happy. ! also use the Samyang 1.4 85mm but I am not sure if it is still available.
I'm sorry for this question as I'm super new to the camera world, but I've heard Canon doesn't allow third party lenses on their cameras. If that's true then how are you able to use Tamron lens on your EOS R? Please don't mind me asking 😊
For next video who will speak about EF lens on R body, is you can test the best EF it could be fine. And the 2 best EF are the last one. The 35mm f1.4 II and the 85mm f1.4 IS. 2 gems
The 50mm 1.8 whether RF or EF is the best lens for the money by a long shot. If you’re broke, an older EF camera and the 50mm will do everything you need to learn highly advanced techniques with primes.
I have to say, you are being too kind to RF85. It is borderline misinformation. RF85 is almost useless in continuous autofocua for subject tracking, which is a large part of portrait shooting. tracking eyes is an area where camera capability have grown exponentially in recent years. As long as the subject is closer than 2m, 😂rf85 cant servo af like any other rf lens, even cheap rf16 rf50 are better than it. I dont know what Canon was smoking when choosing stm motor in rf85. Corner Sharpness doesnt matter in portrait lens, nor does in video shooting.
Hey Frank! I’ve actually done a full video on the lens, including a full day of using this lens for portraits and had very little issues in terms of AF. I can only speak to my own experiences. I would always suggest hiring any lens and making your own judgment if you can. For me I was very impressed with the lens.
@@JamesReader unless your definition of portrait is exclusively static posing shots. I have the discontinued Samyang RF 85/1.4 with a stepping motor and even that lens is much quicker than RF85 f2 in af
Canon is unnecessarily too bulky compared to Sony and Fujifilm, even the smallest bodies. I hope they come up with something more compact for everyday carry.
@James Reader ,Hey man.! i just love your work.! can you please make a video about basic color corrections you do to your raw images.! i own R5 with 35 mm ..but still struggle to achieve good color tones like yours.! kindly help me out...
I have a question right now I’m planning to buy a gimbal for my canon eos r8 so will DJI RS3 Will work perfectly fine with R8?? Is there any connection issue? Will it work with bluetooth??
Thanks. Ive been a professional portrait/fashion photographer for 18 years now. Best BUDGET setup for portraits IMO is the R10 and the RF 50 f/1.8 You get a camera with a great sensor, fantastic AF and a cheap but very good 85mm equivalent (81mm) lens with the crop sensor for under $1k. Thats $500 cheaper than just an R8 body. I just did a shoot for a modeling agency using this combo along with the RF 35 f/1.8 and it worked wonderfully. I even used the 18-45 kit lens indoors with lights where I was up around f/6.3 anyways and those look great too. Cant beat it for the price. Runner up would be the RP, which Canon has refurbished right now for only $599. A steal IMO.
Really f aN annoying when you put a side by side comparison set of pics for just about an 1/8 of a second. You did that at least 3 times before half your video finished playing.
for me on tight budget (beginner level, just for fun, family and travel use) 1. Canon EOS R6 Mark II (new) 2. RF 24mm - 105mm F4 maybe buy RF 85mm F2 next year if necessary
Could I bother you with a question. I'm deciding over a Eos R or a R8. With the 1.4 firmware update on the R it gets good eye tracking (witch the R8 has a great one in contrast) and I keep seeing the R8 has overheating and weather sealing problems where the R is a tank. I shoot portrait and fashion (not fast moving subjects, not video) and for commercial work I'm leaning to the 30 mgpx of the R (r5 is out of budget) but I keep wondering if the Dynamic range/shadow recovery/color/image quality of the R8 is that different to the R to justify less battery, no weather sealing, potencial overheating and 24 mgpx (most people say it doesnt matter but If you have worked with commercial clients, the ALWAYS want different crops after being told to get it on camera haha so more resolution for me is almost a must). I know lens quality is pivotal but I'm trying to see witch body is more suitable for me. Thank you in advance for any feedback!!
Hey Nico! In your shoes I would go for the R. I’ve compared the R for dynamic range etc against the R5 and R6 and in my opinion it keeps up so well that it’s not a concern. The EOS R has a tried and true sensor relied on by many pros in the industry. I would only recommend the R8 over it if you need good video quality. Other than that the R is excellent.
I'm building out my lens kit for this. Starting with a 35mm 1.8 because that's my favorite. The big things I'm considering are image stabilization in the lenses (due to the R8 lacking it combined with the smaller size). The decision probably comes down to getting a zoom vs just getting the 85mm F2. I like the idea of going with a lens kit heavy in fast prime lens for this camera. The huge zoom lenses feel too large for this camera.
I’m sorry but anything over a grand isn’t really budget anything.😂 you want a budget camera that is actually under a grand buy an r50 which is only 680 dollars not 1400.
As a professional I have two EOS Rs which I've had for several years. They are great cameras and I use them all the time. Photo quality is excellent. I also have the 85mm F/2 and I love it for portrait work. I do some street photography just as a hobby, I don't make any money from it, and for that I use a Canon EOS RP. This camera is amazing. I'm always impressed by the images coming from the RP. It's also small enough to easily carry around. I typically shoot the RP with a 50mm F1.8 but I also carry an 85mm F/2 in my bag. But I could actually use the RP when I do my professional work if I wanted to--it's not strictly for amateurs. Amazing cameras. You did an excellent job. I don't shoot video, so I'm not interested in what any camera does with video capabilities.
2 years ago i bought the R with an 85 f2 and 35 f1.8 -- within the first year i had recouped my costs Those full frame portaits with the 85mm will blow away most of the local competion -- i can't wait to upgrade my body and get REAL AUTIFOCUS though
I would love to see adapted Canon EF 24-70mm 2.8L usm in your comparison. I have one that I'm using with the EOS R and how much I try my pictures are not sharp at all!
Sir i have a question right now I’m planning to buy a gimbal for my canon eos r8 so will DJI RS3 Will work perfectly fine with R8?? Is there any connection issue? Will it work with bluetooth??
Got the R50 w/ the 18-45mm kit lense. Its okay. Picked up the 50mm on a solid sale. Definitely need to look at the 35mm to round out the kit for the photos im trying to get. Since the crop sensor and space available make it tricky to use.
Awesome video! Thank you so much! I have a question pertaining to photography. When people refer to “those Canon colours”, are they talking about raw files, or straight out of camera jpegs?
Thank you Wasim! I think it’s both RAW and JPEG but the straight out of camera JPEGS are generally the best representation of Canon colours, only because how RAW file colours are processed is very dependent on what software you use. Lightroom can process Canon RAWs quite a bit differently to Capture One for example.
Your videos are some of my favourite on RUclips for photography - thank you so much! I am just wondering if you still plan on putting out that video you mentioned about EF lenses on the R series? Thank you!
I just won a Ebay Auction all items boxed in new condition ....Canon EOS R 30.3MP Digital Camera With Rf 50mm f/1.8 And Battery Grip BG-E22 and two batteries with a 64G card and a Canon lens hood the complete package $1,000 bucks....
I actually love all of you reviews. Im getting a new camera because of you lol. I'm still deciding between the R8 and R6MKii but my question for you is: If I get the R8 with 24-50mm or R6MKii with 24-100mm SHOULD I keep either of those lenses?? If not I can buy the just body version instead to save $ and put that towards a lens that you recommended her (probably the 35mm) But are either of those two kit lenses worth keeping?
Thank you for watching Danny! I haven’t had chance to try out those kit lenses so can’t comment on their quality but they are definitely versatile focal zooms and will have you covered for a bit of everything. I really love the 35mm 1.8, so i would personally go in that direction but I think you’ll happy either way
How’s the RF 24-104 do for action in low (gymnasium) lighting? Looking for a versatile RF option to keep in bag aside from my 70-200 2.8. I’ll primarily be shooting volleyball.
The best option for this would be the 28-70 f2. The constant f2 aperture will allot you to keep your iso lower and shutter speed higher, great for indoor sport in less than ideal lighting. A very expensive lens however so other options are adapting the EF 24-70 2.8 or as you mentioned the RF 24-105 if you are okay with pushing the ISO.
Hi. I wasn't going to be looking for another camera for awhile, but was wondering for low-light photography, would you still recommend the older camera models? I keep going back between the RP, R, R8, and R6 mark I in consideration of price, while also wanting to be able to take nightime pictures.
Absolutely! The EOS R keeps up really well with the R6 Mark 1 and the R5 in terms of high iso performance. I tested this in an earlier video and shared raw files for you to check out. Objectively the R6 mark 1 is probably the best low light performer but in reality they are all very close.
Great Video! I am currently using Eos R! I am thinking of buying a new lens. Would you recommend Rf 85mm f2 or sigma 85mm art f 1.4? Do you know if the canon has fixed the slow AF on 85mm f2 in macro mode to normal mode? Thanks!
Hey Luke! I would personally recommend the RF 85mm F2. The Sigma is fantastic, but very big especially with the adapter. If you don't mind that, then it is a great value lens but I prefer the smaller RF lens. The AF is still quite slow to go from it's minimum focus distance in macro to normal I'm afraid.
Bought an R8 with 50/1.8 on Black Friday so I was so pleased you recommended this :) Looking forward to deciding which lenses to add to the setup over time while watching your videos
Thank you for the video. Do you think it’s worth considering buying a used Sigma 35mm ART 1.4? Will it have a better image? In price it is equal to the new RF 35mm 1.8. So I wondered if it was worth using it for work?
Both lenses are great. You will get a little sharper image from the Sigma if you step it down to 1.8. Personally, having tried both, I preferred using the native RF 35mm 1.8 for its small size and weight. Image quality is pretty similar.
@@JamesReader Thank you! Canon RF has more chromatic aberrations. But I noticed that many people are really ready to sacrifice image quality for the sake of size and weight. I haven't started working much in this area yet. But does weight really have that much of an impact on comfort? 😅
Hi James, always love your review as all very insightful. I am R6 shooter and mainly shoot as event photographer. I now own EF 85mm F1.4 + Sigma Art 35mm F1.4 + RF 50mm F1.8 + Tamron 70 200mm G2 F2.8. I am thinking to trade in my EF 85mm F1.4 + Sigma 35mm F1.4 into one lens, i.e. RF 24 70mm F2.8. Reason: to complement holy trinity as I already own 70 200mm and also I thought that 24 700mm is very versatile lens with fast apperture for low light. Pls note, in Jakarta used RF 24 70mm equals to two lenses I own (EF 85mm + Sigma 35mm).😊 Do you think one RF 24 700mm F.28 is worth trading in with two lenses: EF 85mm + Sigma 35mm? I think I am gonna loose the F1.4 aperture of my two lenses, tough, while will get a versatile focal length 24 70mm but slower aperture. Appreciate your feedbacks soon...!
Thank you! That’s a tough one. I think the 24-70 and 70-200 are perfect lenses for event photography. I suppose I would ask how often you are shooting in low light situations? I’d you are keeping the RF 50mm 1.8 then I suppose that’s a very versatile lens you could use if light conditions are poor. Overall I think the RF 24-70 is an excellent investment.
@@JamesReader Hi James, thanks for the insight. Yes, it is a tough one to loose 2 gorgeous lens into one RF 24-700mm. I mainly shoot at office's event and frequently encounter low light condition, also several times in tight space (a group photoshoot), hence wide angle zoom such as 24-70mm really comes in handy. Not to mention that I don't always have the luxury to zoom in/out by feet, as I am not always near the stage (have limitations to come near stage, if you know what I mean). Alternatively, I may opt third party 24-70mm lens, such as Tamron G2 or Sigma Art, however I may not get the image quality as good as the native lens. Await your views, pls.
Sorry late to the party, just watched this excellent video, which focused on affordable, budget friendly equipment; thank you. I recent purchased (2023) the following: EOS R + 24-105 f4 L kit Also, 50 f1.8; 85 f2 macro and 100-400 f5.6-8 lenses Along with the K&F CPL and 2-32, 32-512 variable ND filters; and a K&F tripod. I'm a keen amateur and previously owned the EOS 80D. Would you consider this a suitable budget setup, for someone primarily focused on photography over video (95%/5%).
Thank you for watching Michael! Honestly that sounds like the perfect set up to me. Amazing set of versatile lenses and one of the best photo quality cameras I have used! This setup should last you many years. Haven’t tried the K&F items but I know of a few pros who use their filters so I’m sure they are great.
Absolutely brillant video. Discovered your channel and subscribed right away. Currently catching up with all your vids. Thank you very much for all the hard work. Bought RF 35, 50 and 85 based on your advices. Cheers
I have and use ef 50 f1.2 on Eos R. At f2 is sharp. it start to bee soft on EOS R at f1.6. On my old 5D4 is was not sharp like this. I like it because is a small L lens. And the EF L lens is reliable.
Great content. Subbing. Can’t wait to see the ef vs Rf video. Would be interested in seeing difference between Tamron 24-70 2.8 G2 vs the Canon RF. Thanks!
would you reccomend the R8 over the R6MII for someone who is looking for a camera for family vacations and recording sporting events to create highlight/recruiting videos?
As long as you like the smaller body I think the R8 would be more than good enough for that use case. If you need to record long form videos for hours at a time then potentially the R6 Mark II may be better. Otherwise go with the R8!
@@JamesReader Firstly, I want to see a really great and informative video it glad the algorithm recommended me this as I am just about to decide to buy a used R8 or R6 M1 which are the same price of £1300 at MPB. I’ll be doing portraits and events but would love to dabble and learn videography.
I highly recommend the Gamut conversion LUTs. From there, I get my final look through either the Gamut Kinetic LUTs or the Digifilm power grade for a more stylised look! Hope that helps.
I’ve found R8 battery life to be pretty great so far. Also had no overheating in real world usage yet. I’m sure both can be issues depending on your use case but I have had nothing but positive experiences
@@JamesReader thnx for the reply...found ur channel couple of months ago n I really love ur content...u even provide raw files n sample footage which is just awesome....I generally shoot travel content and shoot in short burst only so I think R8 will work just fine..gonna order it probably with 24-105 n 35
I want to do travel blog. I have a budget of 1500$.The battery is making me nervous about R8.Should i go for it? Or any other suggestion in this price range?(FF)
I really think the R8 would be great for that. I’m not sure what else beats it in that price range. I’ve also had very positive experience with the R8’s battery life in both photo and video.
@@movielover2172 I think you would be okay with 2-3 if you are shooting all day. Just remember to switch the camera off between use to avoid overheating and conserve battery life. If you do that one battery will go a surprisingly long way!
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Wow! You have become the RF RUclips expert king. Your videos are the best.
Thank you so much Daniel!
Great Info man i was thinking of going R6 Mark 2 but i think that I will go with the R8 now for what I need
Thank You good sir and Subbed!
Thank you for watching! You’ll love the R8!
What is your opinion on the cheaper 24-105 F4-7.1 zoom lens? Thank you.
I’ve yet to try it but I’m planning on including it in a video in the next week or two. Looking forward to testing it out
@@JamesReader I’ll watch it!
Could you just buy the 24mm 1.8 and then use the r8 crop 1.6 mode and now you'll have 24mm and a 38mm lens close to 35mm with 1.8
R8 and RF 35mm 1.8 is the strong and light combo for a lot of senarios! Amazing
Would the 35mm allow me to photograph jewelry detail..for product photography? TIA!
Just waiting for my R8to be delivered 😀
@@samanthatrigos6460no. You’d probably want the RF 100mm macro
In the refurbished market, the EOS RP at $599 and an RF 50mm f/1.8 at $79 is an absolute steal!
I haven’t had much chance to use the RP, but I bet that’s a great setup!
@@JamesReader It is! If you don't need high fps and fine shooting in 1080. This camera is great!
That is exactly what I'm about to buy. The r6 was available for 1299 so waiting for it to be available again
@@jaytcapinpin how do you find the RPs servo AF, is it any good?
Cheers
I've just binge watched so many of your videos. You have a brilliant style and your videos are so easy to watch. So much useful info but so easy to digest. As a result I have just ordered an R8 and RF 50mm f1.8. Thanks James, you have been invaluable in this decision and I look forward to many more vids from you!
Thank you so much for the kind words! It’s very encouraging to hear. You’re gonna love your R8 that’s for sure!
@@JamesReader +1 on the style you make your videos - they're so engaging and informative, they really invite for a binge watch! :) Already own an R8 with a few RF primes and some older EF lenses, but was still hesitant to sell my old 6D body due to some occasions where I also prefer to use two bodies + primes instead of one body with a zoom. Thanks to your praise of the older EOS R I decided to finally let go of 6D and can now fully migrate to RF system. The info on 35mm and 85mm primes was also very valuable!
I really can't complain about those budget RF lenses, the picture quality is so beautiful. Unless you're pixel peeping you can't tell it's not from an L series lens. As always great video and content👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Totally agree Shawn, such great little lenses. Thank you for watching!
After a lot of amateur buyer remorse, I’ve settled to an R8 with a 2 lens set up for travel RF35 F1.8 & RF24-105 F4
Thank you for a very informative video
I recommend checking out the old prime canon EF 200mm F2.8II L as a cheap telephoto alternative in RF cameras👌
Have you not heard of the RP? I have the rp with 35 1.8 and 85 f2 and it’s such a great setup!
Unfortunately haven’t used the RP enough to feel confident recommending it but I’m sure it’s great. Hope to give it a try at some point
Should I choose r8 over R6 (mark I) ??
I'm getting used R6, it's semi pro body but R8 makes sense if unr not a professional and not making money out of this.
Hi James, thanks, great video as always - RF 24-105 4.0 is my favourite travel lens, too! I'd be interested to see how the EF 35 2.0 IS USM stands up against the RF 35 1.8 STM.
Thank you Tom! That's definitely on my list for the comparison! I've even heard reports it's sharper than the RF version.
@@JamesReader I own it, and can confirm it's very sharp even wide open, with almost no CAs - I don't own the RF version, though. The EF's 35 2.0 IS USM AF is instant, very precise and almost silent. Build quality is exellent, with no moving external elements. Also, it has great light transmission (almost T 2.0).
I own the EF lens, and can say that it's positioned higher up the market than the RF STM version. It's optically better and focuses faster.
Hi James, I'm now the owner of a Canon R8 after watching some of your previous videos, your videos are very well made and informative. keep it up!
The Tamron EF 1.4 35mm is a wonderful, inexpensive lens and the Tamron EF 24-70 and 70 -200 EF are both excellent. I have been using them with the EOS R since the camera was released and I have been very happy. ! also use the Samyang 1.4 85mm but I am not sure if it is still available.
I'm sorry for this question as I'm super new to the camera world, but I've heard Canon doesn't allow third party lenses on their cameras. If that's true then how are you able to use Tamron lens on your EOS R? Please don't mind me asking 😊
For next video who will speak about EF lens on R body, is you can test the best EF it could be fine. And the 2 best EF are the last one. The 35mm f1.4 II and the 85mm f1.4 IS. 2 gems
The 35mm 1.4 II is amazing. Definitely want to try out the 85mm 1.4 IS. Would be interesting to compare it to the two RF 85mm primes.
Although the R8 sounds great, I’m thinking an RP for travel since I already have extra batteries from my T6i that fit the RP.
Could you please tell me which backpack is the one shown at 3:14?
That is the Nomatic Mckinnon 25L Camera Backpack
The 50mm 1.8 whether RF or EF is the best lens for the money by a long shot. If you’re broke, an older EF camera and the 50mm will do everything you need to learn highly advanced techniques with primes.
Is it worth getting the RF if you have the EF? Is the focusing any quieter?
I have to say, you are being too kind to RF85. It is borderline misinformation. RF85 is almost useless in continuous autofocua for subject tracking, which is a large part of portrait shooting. tracking eyes is an area where camera capability have grown exponentially in recent years. As long as the subject is closer than 2m, 😂rf85 cant servo af like any other rf lens, even cheap rf16 rf50 are better than it. I dont know what Canon was smoking when choosing stm motor in rf85. Corner Sharpness doesnt matter in portrait lens, nor does in video shooting.
Hey Frank! I’ve actually done a full video on the lens, including a full day of using this lens for portraits and had very little issues in terms of AF. I can only speak to my own experiences. I would always suggest hiring any lens and making your own judgment if you can. For me I was very impressed with the lens.
@@JamesReader unless your definition of portrait is exclusively static posing shots. I have the discontinued Samyang RF 85/1.4 with a stepping motor and even that lens is much quicker than RF85 f2 in af
Canon is unnecessarily too bulky compared to Sony and Fujifilm, even the smallest bodies. I hope they come up with something more compact for everyday carry.
@James Reader ,Hey man.! i just love your work.! can you please make a video about basic color corrections you do to your raw images.! i own R5 with 35 mm ..but still struggle to achieve good color tones like yours.! kindly help me out...
My filter solution is meike ef-rf adapter drop in filter 😊
Canon R6 Mark I became more relevant nowadays because of the clearout prices! Best sensible Canon camera all-around. Cheers!
Waiting for the next video!! 👀
Amazing channel James 🫶🏻
Thank you Tomas!
What about low light VIDEO test for the 1.8 lens on the r8 ??????
I would love to see adapted Sigma Art EF prime lenses in your comparison. I am a little worried about adapting these because of possible af problems.
Please try the 24-105 f4 EF lens. Great video thanks. 😎
The new pancake 28mm 2.8 is also a great choice with the R8. Just took this camping and it was great!
Loving the 28mm! Took it travelling recently and was very impressed
I have a question right now I’m planning to buy a gimbal for my canon eos r8 so will DJI RS3 Will work perfectly fine with R8?? Is there any connection issue? Will it work with bluetooth??
Instant subscribe just from this video!
Thank you so much!
Thanks. Ive been a professional portrait/fashion photographer for 18 years now. Best BUDGET setup for portraits IMO is the R10 and the RF 50 f/1.8 You get a camera with a great sensor, fantastic AF and a cheap but very good 85mm equivalent (81mm) lens with the crop sensor for under $1k. Thats $500 cheaper than just an R8 body. I just did a shoot for a modeling agency using this combo along with the RF 35 f/1.8 and it worked wonderfully. I even used the 18-45 kit lens indoors with lights where I was up around f/6.3 anyways and those look great too. Cant beat it for the price. Runner up would be the RP, which Canon has refurbished right now for only $599. A steal IMO.
I really need to try the R10, that is a great deal! If it's anything like the R7 I'm sure it will be great.
my rf 35mm never left my camera that makes my other lens jealous...
Agreed! One of my most used lenses too.
Really f aN annoying when you put a side by side comparison set of pics for just about an 1/8 of a second. You did that at least 3 times before half your video finished playing.
My bad! Will make them longer in the future.
AF is the reason i didn't buy the old R, and the wheel thing, decided on the r6 ii...
Great choice Stan!
for me on tight budget (beginner level, just for fun, family and travel use)
1. Canon EOS R6 Mark II (new)
2. RF 24mm - 105mm F4
maybe buy RF 85mm F2 next year if necessary
R vs r8? R is 2018 released. Should be found under 1000€. Silent shooting? R6 is not cheap
Could I bother you with a question. I'm deciding over a Eos R or a R8. With the 1.4 firmware update on the R it gets good eye tracking (witch the R8 has a great one in contrast) and I keep seeing the R8 has overheating and weather sealing problems where the R is a tank. I shoot portrait and fashion (not fast moving subjects, not video) and for commercial work I'm leaning to the 30 mgpx of the R (r5 is out of budget) but I keep wondering if the Dynamic range/shadow recovery/color/image quality of the R8 is that different to the R to justify less battery, no weather sealing, potencial overheating and 24 mgpx (most people say it doesnt matter but If you have worked with commercial clients, the ALWAYS want different crops after being told to get it on camera haha so more resolution for me is almost a must). I know lens quality is pivotal but I'm trying to see witch body is more suitable for me. Thank you in advance for any feedback!!
Hey Nico! In your shoes I would go for the R. I’ve compared the R for dynamic range etc against the R5 and R6 and in my opinion it keeps up so well that it’s not a concern. The EOS R has a tried and true sensor relied on by many pros in the industry. I would only recommend the R8 over it if you need good video quality. Other than that the R is excellent.
@@JamesReader thank you so much!!!
@@JamesReader thank you so much!!
I'm building out my lens kit for this. Starting with a 35mm 1.8 because that's my favorite. The big things I'm considering are image stabilization in the lenses (due to the R8 lacking it combined with the smaller size). The decision probably comes down to getting a zoom vs just getting the 85mm F2.
I like the idea of going with a lens kit heavy in fast prime lens for this camera. The huge zoom lenses feel too large for this camera.
I’m sorry but anything over a grand isn’t really budget anything.😂 you want a budget camera that is actually under a grand buy an r50 which is only 680 dollars not 1400.
Thank you James for another amazing video :). Please test the new RF 15-30mm lens in a future how it compares to adapted or native L alternatives.
Thank you Harmónia! I'll definitely try and get my hands on it. Looks like a really interesting focal range.
Or buy a used EF16-35 F4
So rf 35 f1.8 and 50mm f1.8 is the best sir
Both great lenses!
Very nice work, I love it ❤
Thank you!
As a professional I have two EOS Rs which I've had for several years. They are great cameras and I use them all the time. Photo quality is excellent. I also have the 85mm F/2 and I love it for portrait work. I do some street photography just as a hobby, I don't make any money from it, and for that I use a Canon EOS RP. This camera is amazing. I'm always impressed by the images coming from the RP. It's also small enough to easily carry around. I typically shoot the RP with a 50mm F1.8 but I also carry an 85mm F/2 in my bag. But I could actually use the RP when I do my professional work if I wanted to--it's not strictly for amateurs. Amazing cameras. You did an excellent job. I don't shoot video, so I'm not interested in what any camera does with video capabilities.
Still waiting for your comparison: Ef85mm F1.4 USM vs Rf 85mm f2
2 years ago i bought the R with an 85 f2 and 35 f1.8 -- within the first year i had recouped my costs
Those full frame portaits with the 85mm will blow away most of the local competion -- i can't wait to upgrade my body and get REAL AUTIFOCUS though
Oh nice. Using a R8 and sometimes tehese 2 lenses. Thinking about using it for video. So great video. Popcorn is ready :)
I would love to see adapted Canon EF 24-70mm 2.8L usm in your comparison. I have one that I'm using with the EOS R and how much I try my pictures are not sharp at all!
Sir i have a question right now I’m planning to buy a gimbal for my canon eos r8 so will DJI RS3 Will work perfectly fine with R8?? Is there any connection issue? Will it work with bluetooth??
I have an rs3 with an r5 set up and it works perfectly fine . Seeing as how the r8 is lighter I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.. good luck
Very useful n comprehensive vid on best value canon ff cameras & lens. (I’ll save it for Ref ! ). Thks.
Thinking of getting r8+35 mm 1.8 macro stm and 50 mm 1.8 stm.
Got the R50 w/ the 18-45mm kit lense. Its okay. Picked up the 50mm on a solid sale. Definitely need to look at the 35mm to round out the kit for the photos im trying to get. Since the crop sensor and space available make it tricky to use.
Please test the expensive white EF telephoto lenses against RF. Not only sharpness, but also focus performance. 2.8/300 and 4/500 are on my wishlist.
Awesome video! Thank you so much! I have a question pertaining to photography. When people refer to “those Canon colours”, are they talking about raw files, or straight out of camera jpegs?
Thank you Wasim! I think it’s both RAW and JPEG but the straight out of camera JPEGS are generally the best representation of Canon colours, only because how RAW file colours are processed is very dependent on what software you use. Lightroom can process Canon RAWs quite a bit differently to Capture One for example.
@@JamesReader Great! Thanks again 😊
Canon r8 or sony a7m3 which one is better for photography
Your videos are some of my favourite on RUclips for photography - thank you so much! I am just wondering if you still plan on putting out that video you mentioned about EF lenses on the R series? Thank you!
I just won a Ebay Auction all items boxed in new condition ....Canon EOS R 30.3MP Digital Camera With Rf 50mm f/1.8 And Battery Grip BG-E22 and two batteries with a 64G card and a Canon lens hood the complete package $1,000 bucks....
That’s an incredible deal on a great set up! Congratulations!
Ive been seeing the ef 28-70 2.8l compare that
Comparison wise i would really like to see the ef135 f2 and the rf135 f1.8. fo head to head.
That was a tour de force! Very fair minded selection with practicality and cost at the core🎉
Thank you so much!
I actually love all of you reviews. Im getting a new camera because of you lol.
I'm still deciding between the R8 and R6MKii but my question for you is:
If I get the R8 with 24-50mm or R6MKii with 24-100mm SHOULD I keep either of those lenses?? If not I can buy the just body version
instead to save $ and put that towards a lens that you recommended her (probably the 35mm)
But are either of those two kit lenses worth keeping?
Thank you for watching Danny! I haven’t had chance to try out those kit lenses so can’t comment on their quality but they are definitely versatile focal zooms and will have you covered for a bit of everything. I really love the 35mm 1.8, so i would personally go in that direction but I think you’ll happy either way
How’s the RF 24-104 do for action in low (gymnasium) lighting? Looking for a versatile RF option to keep in bag aside from my 70-200 2.8. I’ll primarily be shooting volleyball.
The best option for this would be the 28-70 f2. The constant f2 aperture will allot you to keep your iso lower and shutter speed higher, great for indoor sport in less than ideal lighting. A very expensive lens however so other options are adapting the EF 24-70 2.8 or as you mentioned the RF 24-105 if you are okay with pushing the ISO.
It will be great if you could do a review on RF 16mm/1.8
What do you think about RF 24 to 240mm for R8 as a travel lens? I am hearing mixed review. Wanted to know your thoughts. Thanks
Haven't had chance to try that one yet I'm afraid, hopefully soon!
Hi. I wasn't going to be looking for another camera for awhile, but was wondering for low-light photography, would you still recommend the older camera models? I keep going back between the RP, R, R8, and R6 mark I in consideration of price, while also wanting to be able to take nightime pictures.
Absolutely! The EOS R keeps up really well with the R6 Mark 1 and the R5 in terms of high iso performance. I tested this in an earlier video and shared raw files for you to check out. Objectively the R6 mark 1 is probably the best low light performer but in reality they are all very close.
Great Video!
I am currently using Eos R!
I am thinking of buying a new lens. Would you recommend Rf 85mm f2 or sigma 85mm art f 1.4?
Do you know if the canon has fixed the slow AF on 85mm f2 in macro mode to normal mode?
Thanks!
Hey Luke! I would personally recommend the RF 85mm F2. The Sigma is fantastic, but very big especially with the adapter. If you don't mind that, then it is a great value lens but I prefer the smaller RF lens. The AF is still quite slow to go from it's minimum focus distance in macro to normal I'm afraid.
Do the custom settings save/work in video mode on the R8? Great video!
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the new 28mm 2.8 aint bad for the price either
Im looking for a lenses for portrait, couple, Families like and everyday photography. I have a cannon rebel t6
Hi Ashley. Is the rebel a crop sensor camera? A great portrait lens would be the EF 50mm 1.8 or the 35mm f2
Bought an R8 with 50/1.8 on Black Friday so I was so pleased you recommended this :) Looking forward to deciding which lenses to add to the setup over time while watching your videos
R8: does it have IBIS? Hotshoe?
Is the Canon ef 100mm 2.8 L lens great for wedding photography?
Absolutely! Great portrait lens. It would also be great for ceremony shots
Nice vid! Love the rf35mm as well. I’ve been using the EOS RP for travel and R5 for everything else.
You think it’s worth upgrading to the R8 from RP?
Thank you! I would only upgrade if the improved video features of the R8 would be something you need.
Your videos are super helpful, I wanted to ask , what lens do you use for your headshot in your RUclips video right now?
Thank you! It’s the Sigma 28mm 1.4.
I'm not a fan of the stm lenses. Slow auto focus, focus breathing, and noisy.
Well if you have unlimited money, USM all the way...
The Tamron 15-30 F2.8 would be a good one to see. The original, not the G2.
I’ll definitely check it out! Thanks Mark.
Excellent video. You just got a new subscriber.
Thank you Jonathan!
Thank you for the video. Do you think it’s worth considering buying a used Sigma 35mm ART 1.4? Will it have a better image? In price it is equal to the new RF 35mm 1.8. So I wondered if it was worth using it for work?
Both lenses are great. You will get a little sharper image from the Sigma if you step it down to 1.8. Personally, having tried both, I preferred using the native RF 35mm 1.8 for its small size and weight. Image quality is pretty similar.
@@JamesReader Thank you! Canon RF has more chromatic aberrations. But I noticed that many people are really ready to sacrifice image quality for the sake of size and weight. I haven't started working much in this area yet. But does weight really have that much of an impact on comfort? 😅
Hi James, always love your review as all very insightful.
I am R6 shooter and mainly shoot as event photographer. I now own EF 85mm F1.4 + Sigma Art 35mm F1.4 + RF 50mm F1.8 + Tamron 70 200mm G2 F2.8.
I am thinking to trade in my EF 85mm F1.4 + Sigma 35mm F1.4 into one lens, i.e. RF 24 70mm F2.8. Reason: to complement holy trinity as I already own 70 200mm and also I thought that 24 700mm is very versatile lens with fast apperture for low light. Pls note, in Jakarta used RF 24 70mm equals to two lenses I own (EF 85mm + Sigma 35mm).😊
Do you think one RF 24 700mm F.28 is worth trading in with two lenses: EF 85mm + Sigma 35mm? I think I am gonna loose the F1.4 aperture of my two lenses, tough, while will get a versatile focal length 24 70mm but slower aperture.
Appreciate your feedbacks soon...!
Thank you! That’s a tough one. I think the 24-70 and 70-200 are perfect lenses for event photography. I suppose I would ask how often you are shooting in low light situations? I’d you are keeping the RF 50mm 1.8 then I suppose that’s a very versatile lens you could use if light conditions are poor. Overall I think the RF 24-70 is an excellent investment.
@@JamesReader Hi James, thanks for the insight. Yes, it is a tough one to loose 2 gorgeous lens into one RF 24-700mm.
I mainly shoot at office's event and frequently encounter low light condition, also several times in tight space (a group photoshoot), hence wide angle zoom such as 24-70mm really comes in handy. Not to mention that I don't always have the luxury to zoom in/out by feet, as I am not always near the stage (have limitations to come near stage, if you know what I mean).
Alternatively, I may opt third party 24-70mm lens, such as Tamron G2 or Sigma Art, however I may not get the image quality as good as the native lens.
Await your views, pls.
Sorry late to the party, just watched this excellent video, which focused on affordable, budget friendly equipment; thank you.
I recent purchased (2023) the following:
EOS R + 24-105 f4 L kit
Also, 50 f1.8; 85 f2 macro and 100-400 f5.6-8 lenses
Along with the K&F CPL and 2-32, 32-512 variable ND filters; and a K&F tripod.
I'm a keen amateur and previously owned the EOS 80D.
Would you consider this a suitable budget setup, for someone primarily focused on photography over video (95%/5%).
Thank you for watching Michael! Honestly that sounds like the perfect set up to me. Amazing set of versatile lenses and one of the best photo quality cameras I have used! This setup should last you many years. Haven’t tried the K&F items but I know of a few pros who use their filters so I’m sure they are great.
@@JamesReader thank you James for your reply, I'll be following your channel from here on... thanks.
Absolutely brillant video. Discovered your channel and subscribed right away. Currently catching up with all your vids. Thank you very much for all the hard work. Bought RF 35, 50 and 85 based on your advices. Cheers
Thank you so much!!
Great video, but also really nice photography
Thank you so much!
Which lens would you suggest to use with the R7? Looking at the 35mm but unsure with the 1.6x cropped body...
The 35mm is great but my personal favourite on the R7 was the 24mm 1.8 for a standard field of view. Very sharp too
@@JamesReader Great, thank you! Was weighing up 35 Vs 24 so great to have your opinion.
i own RF 50mm f1,8 and EF 50mm f1.2
the bokeh of RF 50mm f1.8 open wide equal to EF 50mm f1.2 at f2
just try it
I’ll definitely give that a try! I’m planning on including the EF 50mm 1.2 in my upcoming comparison between EF and RF
I have and use ef 50 f1.2 on Eos R. At f2 is sharp. it start to bee soft on EOS R at f1.6. On my old 5D4 is was not sharp like this. I like it because is a small L lens. And the EF L lens is reliable.
Great content. Subbing. Can’t wait to see the ef vs Rf video. Would be interested in seeing difference between Tamron 24-70 2.8 G2 vs the Canon RF. Thanks!
Thank you so much! Will definitely check the Tamron out.
Hey do you recommended the r8 for wedding photography?
In terms of performance, absolutely. It does only have a single card slot though. So it depends how you feel about not having the redundancy.
would you reccomend the R8 over the R6MII for someone who is looking for a camera for family vacations and recording sporting events to create highlight/recruiting videos?
As long as you like the smaller body I think the R8 would be more than good enough for that use case. If you need to record long form videos for hours at a time then potentially the R6 Mark II may be better. Otherwise go with the R8!
usually max of 45 mins of recording with a 45 min break in between games
I’m new in photography , having the R8 which budget lenses should I get , mainly for portrait and landscape purposes?
RF 35mm 1.8 is a great place to start or the 50mm 1.8. Both great lenses and very versatile.
@@JamesReader do I need both? What about the 85mm f2?
What was the other lense u recommend
Would you recommend the R8 or R6?
Both really good. What use case? More photo or video?
@@JamesReader Firstly, I want to see a really great and informative video it glad the algorithm recommended me this as I am just about to decide to buy a used R8 or R6 M1 which are the same price of £1300 at MPB. I’ll be doing portraits and events but would love to dabble and learn videography.
I would love to see the ef 16-35 f4 vs the rf 14-35 f4. And the ef 24-70 2.8 vs rf 24-70 2.8.
I compared the EF 16-35 F4 to the RF 14-35 in an earlier video, the EF version is great! I'll definitely look to compare the two 24-70s.
how do you color grading your footage ? especially clog3 , do you have a lut to sell? I love the video color
I highly recommend the Gamut conversion LUTs. From there, I get my final look through either the Gamut Kinetic LUTs or the Digifilm power grade for a more stylised look! Hope that helps.
@@JamesReader I will check it out, thanks
While the r8 is great, the r10 is such a beast for travel even if it’s a crop sensor. For the price it’s a little beast.
I haven’t managed to try the R10 yet, I’m sure the camera is great but I’d love to see a few more RFS lenses from a canon.
Interested in the adapted EF 70-200 lens comparison.
Will definitely check it out!
That sigma 40mm 1.4 :O
I so wanna get R8 but its poor battery and overheating issues are bothering me....do you have any such issues from R8
I’ve found R8 battery life to be pretty great so far. Also had no overheating in real world usage yet. I’m sure both can be issues depending on your use case but I have had nothing but positive experiences
@@JamesReader thnx for the reply...found ur channel couple of months ago n I really love ur content...u even provide raw files n sample footage which is just awesome....I generally shoot travel content and shoot in short burst only so I think R8 will work just fine..gonna order it probably with 24-105 n 35
The only one whom I give thumbs up on each Video right away once I open it.
Thanks a lot James keep creating
I really appreciate that Mohammad, thank you as always!
I want to do travel blog. I have a budget of 1500$.The battery is making me nervous about R8.Should i go for it? Or any other suggestion in this price range?(FF)
I really think the R8 would be great for that. I’m not sure what else beats it in that price range. I’ve also had very positive experience with the R8’s battery life in both photo and video.
@@JamesReaderhow many battery should I buy to vlog from dawn to dusk outside?
@@movielover2172 I think you would be okay with 2-3 if you are shooting all day. Just remember to switch the camera off between use to avoid overheating and conserve battery life. If you do that one battery will go a surprisingly long way!
I read your thoughts all the time 🤠