For anyone who has some of the budget RF f1.8 primes, I think one of the key things is to shoot it at around f2.2-2.5 if you want to get better sharpness and contrast while still retaining a good amount of background separation. This is especially true when shooting against bright lights.
One other thought about the Nifty Fifty (RF 50mm f/1.8) is that it also solves the travel question you asked some weeks back. Not only is this MUCH less of an investment to worry about losing or dropping, but it's also MUCH lighter and more compact to carry around, but still gives you VASTLY better shots than you could take with your phone. The 35mm could also be a great solution, depending on your focal preference. Both are versatile and give great results and FANTASTIC value!
As Katelyn pointed out - if you can't afford the fancy version of any lens...don't stress about it. You can certainly grow your business with a 1.8 or a 2.8 or even a kit lens, really. Don't go into debt buying gear. Work on being a better photographer, on how to create a sustainable business, how to appeal to your market, etc, etc, rather than the quick dopamine payoff of gear acquisition. I'm just entering year 3 as a wedding photographer, and while my business has grown quite a bit, I still pay cash for everything - well, I put it on my CC, but I pay it off in its entirety. ;) A nice rule to consider if you're not sure if you can afford a product is whether you can buy it twice; if you can't buy it twice, then it might be worth holding off so you're not riding the line all day, every day. Because you never know when something might suddenly break and you'll be glad you have some cash to help cover the unexpected costs of running a biz.
I’m a 45 yr corporate and advertising pro. Buy the best gear and raise your rates. You don’t want to be the cheap guy with inappropriate gear that hinders your work. Being a photographer is about making great images- success will follow. I only looked for work for the first 3 months of my career, the rest was repeat and referrals. If you’re always marketing, you aren’t putting the work first. If your work is low-light or available light, or you need the isolation of fast glass, you should buy fast glass-the right tool etc., and your tools shouldn’t hinder your vision. If someone is paying for your best, bring it. That said, the 1.8 version is a good lens at f4. The 1.2 lens is made to shoot at 1.2-2.0. At f4, buy either. I own both, and many 50mm for different rendering. I prefer to manual focus a Zeiss (or Leica) than any AF Canon. I’d recommend getting a used Milvus 1.4 and adapting- it’s optically better, lighter and ⅓ the cost on the used mkt.
The RF glass from Canon is honestly so sharp and they have fantastic autofocus. I have the RF 35 f1.8 and the RF 85 F2 and paired with my R6, the results are often sharper than even some of their older EF L lenses. You really can't go wrong with RF glass, even on the budget end.
So happy to listen to this video. I'm shooting with an R5 and the 50 mm 1.8 and have been so happy with the images I'm getting during family sessions. I can't afford the money for the 1.2 right now and my clients have been super happy with their images as well. This made my day!
So much fun to see you taking pictures of the kids having fun! I completely lost focus on testing the lenses and had to review everything! Much better than those very serious technical reviews
The 1.8 was a huge upgrade from my kit lenses... and I am by NO means a professional photographer, even though I would love to be some day... But I have noticed that the 1.8 doesn't quite give the crispness that I yearn for, but it has been an excellent addition for me, and has really helped me feel more confident! Thank you for this comparison. I really appreciated it!
2:32 It's not all metal. It has a poly-carbonate body, a metal mount, and some metal parts inside 3:40 The EF version has also a metal mount Nice video. ☺
@@zambination11 OP must have gotten rid of her EF 50mm f1.8 II and bought the 50mm f1.2 USM instead many years ago so from her memory the EF version of 50mm f1.8 had a plastic mount. It is NOT irrelevant. The Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II was the "nifty fifty" for 15 years 1990-2015 and sold the most so much so that many RUclipsRS even called it the "plastic fantastic". The EF 50mm 1.8 (let's called it mk 1) had a metal mount but was only produced for 3 years (1987-1990) and is rare. And the EF 50mm f1.8 STM version only appeared since 2015 by which time many professionals have gotten the metal mount EF 50mm f1.4 or the metal mount EF 50mm f1.2 or the metal mount 50mm f1.0 instead of that "plastic fantastic".
@@set3777 You are totally right, but she doesn't mention the "old" version but rather clearly the EF version. So because she reviews the Canon RF 50mm f/1.8 STM, for me its common sense that she compares it to the Canon EF 50mm f1.8 STM is selling at moment.
L lenses do bring presence, I find it important because it makes my clients feel secure that my prices are justified just looking at the hardware, it might be shallow, but is very relevant
@@tylerherrinton funny thing! I was typing this as she showed the picture of the video rig. I have that same set up. The c70 and rs2. Such a great camera!
@@jwanger142 I use all my own equipment for RUclips filming! Technically a write off for my own business I suppose but isn't all equipment a write off?
I spent the majority of my first year and a half in business on my ef 50 1.8 and I love it! I just got the Sigma 28-70 2.8 this summer and am in heaven lol. I’m very happy with these two (I have a 70-300 4.0 that I hardly ever use unless personally for landscape) and will probably save for another year or two to get the 70-200 🥰
As someone that can’t jump on a 2k lens right now this makes me so happy that I’m still going to get amazing photo to start my journey without breaking the bank. Thank you!
I have been struggling with this exact question! I am just starting to take my photography from hobbyist to professional and this information is exactly what I have been looking for! I LOVE your teaching style and will definitely be following you! I really look forward to taking your classes very soon.
Very nice to see something different for once, compared to all the other reviews talking about specs and this and that but not really focusing on hands-on experience compared to a much higher priced option. Thanks you guys for the video!
I had a wedding a weekend from August until October 1st and found the RF 50 1.2 for $500 less than retail on eBay and decided to purchase as sort of a long term rental and I’d sell it once the wedding season was over. It’s fall mini and senior session season and I still can’t let it go. It never leaves my camera. I often debate whether it’s worth it, as it’s sometimes too sharp for some of my clients, but I still love it.
@@breannamedek9186 sorry for the late reply, didn't get a notification on this. It really has to depend on what you do most. If events and groups, the 35mm is probably best for flexibility, and can still do decent if you need to move close for individual shots. The 85mm is GREAT if you mostly do headshots and portraits, but will struggle with anything wider or with more than 1 or 2 people. The 50mm is the best all-rounder, and if I could only have one it would be that.
R5 has given my old EF 50 f1.2 a new lease of life. Fast autofocus and now nails focus 100% of the time. Less digitally crisp as the newer RF glass but still a beautifully sharp portrait lens.
Hello. Your review and advice is very apt and encouraging to all the budget oriented photographers. I like the way you have compared these 2 lenses. You seem quite considerate for the photographers who face the financial strain unlike some youtubers who are constantly praising the new stuff companies manufacture. It all boils down to our needs, our clients, and our financial status. Of course if everybody had the budget he or she would go for the best expensive stuff. Kindly continue making such useful informative videos for the photographer community. ❤
Oh my gosh! I bought this wonderful 1.8 refurbished for $79!! I just got it delivered and tried it out. It is amazing and if you are a hiker this is a no brainer. It is sooooo light! And it’s superb! Hiking is gonna be fun again. And I don’t have to lug a heavy lens around. I have the Canon R6 mkll and this combo is amazing! Best $79 I ever spent on photography.
I like how you light your video... so soft on your skin... and your hair looks great.... 😍😍😍😍😍😍 And your voice is sooooo calming... so soothing.... I am definitely subscribing. 👌
@@thayes21364 the RF 85 f1.2 is faster than the EF version. If you are only shooting subjects that stay perfectly still then the EF version is fine, but if you know your subject is going to be moving around get the RF
New subscriber! I somehow assembled the beginner wedding photographer kit by pure instinct. Very happy accident finding your channel, I'm now feeling great about my recent lens purchases.
I have L lenses and the cheaper RF lenses. I switch to the cheaper RF 50, 35, 24 for candid time. It really saves on the weight and fatigue for those few hours.. and less intimidating to guests.
I hit like at the first part of your disclaimer ma'am. Coz THAT is exactly what I'm about, and what I expect of people, and I know I have a quality review coming up here...
Awesome comparison video! I've used the Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 with my R6 and the results are incredible-way better than with my DSLR. Probably because mirrorless cameras need no lens calibration, and focusing was perfect!
THANKS! I'm trying to get into photography and sometimes the pricing for some of these lenses just make me feel that I will need to turn away from this. I knew there was going to be a difference but as you said, it can get the job done. Thanks for your insights, I do appreciate professionals making things a bit easier for begginers. hoping to watch more videos like this!
Good review. I got the 1.8 because RF glass is so expensive and for $159, it almost seems free compared to that $2K+ glass. Having fun with it. Thanks. I really enjoy all your RUclips vids. Please keep them coming.
I've watched different videos on lenses, and yours was recorded with some much love. Thank you for the comparison. I can't afford the $2000 lens, but I'll be gifting myself with the $200 one today as my Mother's Day gift.
Great video! Just stumbled on it after purchasing a 1.8. I wanted to grab it as a low dough 50 mm. I have more money invested in my sport lenses. I love your presentation you say what you’d prefer but also show strong points of the lesser lenses. Great job
I shot my very first ever wedding with the 50mm 1.8 last weekend and it was a trooper. Thanks for this perspective! I’ve done several family portrait sessions with it and it’s fantastic as well. Saving up for the big boy lens LOL!
Admittedly, I just bought the 1.8 50mm lens, its my second lens ever. My first lens was the kit one, the 24-105mm f4-7.5 zoom lens and I have to say, the 50mm is BLOWING ME AWAY! I'm so excited!
Thank you so much for this video, you are always very honest and unbiased. 50mm has always been my favorite focal length, so I have tons of 50's. I think my favorite is the Tokina Opera 50mm 1.4 for EF, adapted to my R5. Believe it or not, I think that lens may even have slightly better: Sharpness, Colors, Contrast and Bokeh than the RF 1.2L at comparable apertures.. I think they are both equally as heavy too, unfortunately, but the Opera is far less, for sure.
Yay! This was awesome. Please, please, please do the RF 35mm macro against the RF 100mm macro next!!! I would be so interested to see the pros/cons of the cheaper vs the expensive.
I own both RF 35 and 100, if you’re looking for a macro lens then definitely go with the 100. I use the 35 for everyday photos and not for macro use since the quality just doesn’t compare to the 100
Awesome review🙃 - I currently own the RF 1.2L * I bought the RF 1.2L over the RF 1.8 after checking out lots and lots of reviews and i am satisfied with my decision. But your conclusion? It's on point!👌🏽
Katelyn, I am about to switch / upgrade to a Canon RF camera. I currently have a T6s and use the 50mm f1.8 EF lens for portraits and astrophotography. It gets TINY pinpoint super sharp stars and it's fast enough to soak up tons of nebula gasses (especially with Ha filter inserted). My question for you is: Is the RF version just as good / comparable to the EF version? And should I just invest in the EF-RF adapter and use my old EF lens on my RF camera?
The ultimate question: will your target market notice the difference? In the vast majority of cases, absolutely not. If you need the 1.2....rent it. Better for cash flow.
Thanks for that. It was really helpful. For me, another big decision factor besides the price is the weight. I hate lugging huge heavy lenses, so if something light and plastic works decently, that's a big plus.
Thanks for your content. I’ve subscribed to your channel and find your honest approach really helpful. I’m a part time wedding photographer based in the uk and have just purchased my first 50mm 1.2 (z lens). Very heavy but definitely seeing the difference between the 1.8 . Do you mind me asking how you get your clients? I don’t really advertise and do around 10-15 weddings a year. ❤
Just wanted to say, your thoughts on this lens and your consideration of the people who aren't established yet in a business and can't afford the top dollar lenses is refreshing... many photographers would have talked down on the lens and somewhat making others feel like they shouldn't even try if they can't just afford the lens. It's frustrating sometimes to watch lens reviews on lenses that are in a more affordable price bracket for hobbyist or starting out wanting to earn money, hearing the reviewer that is use to using expensive stuff just looking for the worst aspects of the lower end glass and not even giving it a chance or saying like you said this lens won't hinder your from growing and you shouldn't go into debt and cause hardship when the 1.8 will do just fine till you can earn money and step up. Thank you for a refreshing quick view and honest look at this lens and as a parent with moving kids I found it useful that you shot examples with moving kids. Gave me a real life view. And didn't get super technical with test screens and and jumping threw all the aprutres to see where the lens fails and so on. You shot it took great everyday photos and didn't look to beat down the lens at every point.👍👍👍👍
Thinking about beginners real estate with the R50. Would this lens be any use? And what wide angle lens would you suggest for the interior images? Thanks 🙏🏻
😊When I bought my R5 I was pretty much tapped out. I bought the Control Ring EF-RF adapter for $199 and used my EF 50 f1.8 (note the are two versions of the EF 50mm f1.8. One has a plastic mount and the newer one has a metal mount which is the version I have). I slapped on my 50 and when shooting to learn all the functions of the R5. I was able to purchase the $3,000 dollar Canon RF 28-70 f2 on B&H credit card and its what I'm using now. 🤗 That said, I still love 🥰using my Nifty Fifty (aka 50mm f1.8) when I go out street shooting. The idea is, it's lighter weight and I get more candid shots because I don't have my huge 28-70 that makes people a bit nervous. The adapter makes the lens a bit longer which I kind of like because I can use the length to rest my camera on my hand. I also prefer the control ring near the back like film camera lenses did. I really wanted to just buy the RF version of the 50 but decided my current adapted EF works fantastic. Something that's a little interesting. 🧐My EF 50mm has a starting focusing point of 0.35m/1.1ft. Whereas my 28-70mm starts at 0.39m/1.28ft. Now that's splitting hairs but the Nifty Fifty is slightly ahead for starting focus point. I have a hand full of filters for my EF 50 which are very affordable. I have a basic UV filter not that I need UV as the sensor doesn't care about UV light like the old film days, but it makes it easier to clean. I don't get any dust or dirt on the inner sides of the lens. Just a simple wipe of the filter and it's spotless. Since the filter is cheap, I don't even use the lens cap because if you are like me, you keep losing them. I like to call my UV filter my Glass Lens Cap. It's always on and ready to go. I also have a CPL, and two ND fiters to go with it. I didn't buy the expensive Canon petal-type lens hood which I think petal-types are pointless. I went with JJC LH-68 cylindrical lens hood. It does a way better job because it blocks out more light from the sides. Even though it's plastic, there are metal parts for the button for removal from the lens. You can even reverse it to make it more compact for storage. Like my freaking front pocket! 🤓So how good is the Nifty Fifty? Yes its a little softer if you are pixel peeping. There is a slightly a little more color aberration but that's a easy fix in post if needed. My 28-70 also has the same issue just not as pronounced. So could I shoot an wedding with the Nifty Fifty? Absolutly! With the power of the new R series bodies the nifty fivty is a good choice for a first lens. Even when you start building your collection of L-series lenses, the 50mm f1.8 still has its uses. Even had I had a collection of L lenses, I still would run out and buy the Nifty Fifty. Its really that good! Light weight, fast, and affordable which makes it a no brainer. 🚫🧠 🤗
I have the RF 50 1.8 for low light shooting (and the 85mm 1.4L IS as well). I had the EF 50 1.8 for my DSLR but you still had a bottom shutter limit - if I was real careful I could get down to 1/8th HH and get reasonably sharp images. Although the RF 50 1.8 is unstabilised the IBIS makes a big difference - I can comfortably shoot at 1/8th with it on my R7 - and lower if I have to. To me the 50mm 1.8 is a much better lens on an R series camera than it was on a DSLR.
I have the 1.8 lenses right now and wow, seeing the difference is amazing!!! I’m so looking forward to getting new lenses! Thank you for giving your opinion! 👏🏼
I really like the fact you are concerned about someone over extending themselves financially. The advice you gave is solid gold. My firm rule is I NEVER buy anything that isn't going to appreciate in value on time. A house would qualify a camera, a lens, a car? Absolutely not. Better to work harder, save up and then own it. As you so aptly pointed out, having the less expensive lens is not going to hurt one's ability to produce an acceptable product. And besides, we both know, that most clients could never, will never, be as picky as are we. They will naturally know that we are doing our best we can die them and love us for caring about them the way we do. Your daughter and nephew are incredibly cute! Incidentally.
@@KatelynJames You are very welcome Katelyn. I have a question though I am hoping you can help me out with. I am going to buy the new Sony a7R V in about 6 months after all the as yet undiscovered bugs are exterminated! I want to buy a good, high quality lens for it. One that will produce excellent closeups, median range (portraits) and handle landscapes serviceably but not particularly high priority. My work revolves around my taking images I shoot, putting them through the arcane processes I have figured out and producing digital images that bear little actual resemblance to their progenitor photos, but which sell as giclee prints on canvas for about a thousand or so. This likely will be the last actual "real" camera I will invest in as, let's face it, the quality the Sony a7R V yields? Who really needs more? Yes, some my dear! I am sure - that that is so - but not, yours truly. I can take a 13 megapixal RAW image right now, shot with my phone and turn it into a 24 x 36 inch print file that at 16 bits and 300 DPI is around 600 MB that's amazing and tack sharp. So, I think I will maybe be able, with the Sony a7R V, to somehow muddle through! If you have a suggestion for a really good lens, even if expensive, I would welcome very much your help and counsel. Thank you in advance!
Thank you for this video! It's incredibly helpful to see pro-level results with higher- and lower-quality lenses. I'm shooting with a 50mm 1.8 on a Sony Alpha a7III and am locking in on the closest eye with single-point focus; I'm seeing similar results to what you demonstrated here, KJ--looks crisp, but that eye isn't ultra-sharp when I zoom in with Lightroom. I so appreciate this video and all you do to encourage budding photographers! ♥️ Loved the kid-toy sound effects, too!
Thanks for the video! I am a newbie and just purchase a R6 mkII and the RF 15-35 2.8… One day I would love the 50mm 1.2 but after spending everything I had just to get started, I think I will start with the 1.8 now so I can play with the 50mm focal length!
I do like my nifty 50 and have captured some beautiful shots with it. I've taken the plunge and ordered the 1.2 (be here on Monday). I'm really excited to see what it can do. The nifty 50 is very prone to soft photos and I feel lucky when I get a good one. I found that the best way to get more sharp pictures than less with the nifty 50 is to stop down to 2.8 and set your shutter to a min of 1/100s (1/250s is the sweet spot on my lens). But Katelyn is spot on with her assessment on it. Make sure you have one in your bag and test your creativity and skill with it. It is a great investment for the RF cameras.
Thank you, this was very educational and exactly was I was looing for. I'm new to this channel, got to say your video, lights and audio is outstanding! what microphones are you using?
The 1.8 will always get the job done. Having a red ring on your lens (L Series) just communicates that you like nice things but it doesn't make your portraits $2000 better. :-)
This statement has an element of truth, but the thing is, even my cheap smartphone can make blurry images, same goes for my old Samsung NX1000 APS-C. I did not buy a full frame camera to continue making blurry, low detail pictures... 🤷♂ Sure, people say it is all fine from f/2.8-3.5, but that means you are very limited. Darker situations, indoor usage is out of the window. I will definitely keep abandoning this focal length until something happens on the market, never really was my favorite thing anyway.
Nice. Shot with the 1.8 for a hot minute last year, similar results. The size/weight is one of its advantages, especially one-handed eg street work etc.
Thanks for the honest review. I just got back into my camera stuff and purchased the RP full framed Canon. My subjects have all grown up, got married without grand kids for now. I have a 1/2 dozen or so EF lenses (non L) and two EF L lenses (17-40) and (70-200). I really don't want to jump right into expensive RF lenses at this point in my life, yet anyways. My subjects will be interior design like kitchens and baths (which I do for a living). Thinking the EF L 17-40 should work for now. What are your thoughts for that type of photography? Sometimes I just couldn't get back far enough with the C-sized sensors which is why I decided on the full framed RP' I will probably use the photos for website, etc. I also like to hike/back pack and the smallness of the RP was attractive to me (especially with that little RF50 you just demoed) I enjoy taking nice landscapes but maybe not at the expense of all that weight (and liability $$$) in the back country. Love to know your recommendations if you have the time. (Subscribed)
For people who ACTUALLY want and honest idea of what these 2 lenses really are: The F1.2 lens is FAR superior, in every way. It isn't just sharpness, it is color rendering and everything else. Yes, it is worth it. If you can't afford it, the 1.8 is just ok. But for nit-picks like me, the 1.2 beats everything else.....
@@Tzunami07 ROI is one thing, and artistic vision and the creative process are a totally different thing. Pros need to consider the final product, and THAT will contribute to their returns. Of course though, customers are the final and true judge.
Thanks you! Now I can focus on getting the RF 85mm f/1.2 L. Side note could you rent a couple of Lensbaby do a piece on the unique lens affects. Thanks in advance. 🧏🏾♂️👍🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I like what you said about gradually introducing L series lens in your collection. I bought the 50mm 1.8 because of the price and size but I plan on eventually getting the 1.2. I don’t make money from my work yet so it makes sense to go cheaper. I am planning on getting the 24-105mm L series lens soon tho cause it’s a great all purpose lens. anyways thanks for the comparison video!
Great video and it confirms my suspicions, Sure the sharpness isn't as fine when you zoom in but I bet the 50 1.8 cleans up nicely by stopping down just a tad. Looking forward to making amazing images with my new nifty 50 1.8.
great video Katelyn! and what do you think about the ef 50 1.2? will it be better than the rf 1.8? i do have the rf 1.8 and i dont love it too much... (RP camera and going to buy R6 MK2 soon)
I use Canon lenses on my R5 and also Zeiss Planar and Zeiss Milvus. I was shooting at a advertising agency's studio recently and it was overhead food. I went from the 24-105 Canon to the 50mm Macro Zeiss and when the image with the Zeiss lens change popped up on the screen my assistant said "Dude. That is insane". He meant, specifically, how sharp and in focus the Zeiss lens felt compared to the R5. I don't mind a bit of softness to a lens but usually on commercial jobs clients want everything sharp and everything in focus. The more expensive lenses tend to bring that to the table.
For me, the nifty 50 is a great lens for the price and a lot of pros have made a lot of money shots with them over the years. The main benefit of the f1.2 is the edge to edge sharpness, where the f1.8 clarity drops off on the edges noticeably. Personally, I'd prefer to spend the money on the f1.2 85 or the f1.8 135, and take the nifty fifty over the f1.2.
It would be interesting to know if the 1.2 really offers more resolution or if a bit of micro contrast could push the 1.8‘s results closer towards the 1.2
This was amazing! Love your videos. Thank you so much! What are your thoughts on the beastly 70-200? I feel I was duped into buying the thing and now I’m worried I made the wrong choice. I’m wondering if I should sell it to purchase a 50mm prime.
The lack of M/AF focus switch might be the $2000 difference, but it shouldn't be (just include the switch!!!). Also, Katelyn your light and color in your video is some of the best on RUclips period.
I loved your non-technical review. I'm kind of over heavy gear lol. I broke my old favorite lens for my Canon 6D a while ago and got a 24mm pancake for my little Canon SL3 to keep me shooting until I replaced it. I've had so much fun with that little setup for 3 years now. Well, I decided to finally replace my lens to use my full-frame camera for Landscapes again. I put it on there yesterday and just realized I don't want to carry it around. Now I'm selling all 4 my cameras to get the Canon RP and some pancake lenses. I've printed 30x40 with the SL3 and 24mm combo and have been happy with the results. I'm really excited to try my new setup soon.
You are spot on! Great and to the point and good practical test. For the first time I see a useful video without the feeling of being hit by a tech train!!! Keep going!
I own the R6 and the RF 35 1.8, 50 1.8, and 85 2. I’m not a huge fan of the 85 for some reason. I adapt the EF 135 2 when I want the magic look for portraits. The RF 50 1.8 is a great lens that gets tons of use on my R6. Would highly recommend it, not even because of the cost.
@@KatelynJames From what I remember about the EF 85 1.8, I used to enjoy that lens back in the day. But the RF 85 2 just doesn’t seem to render with that “it” factor. Maybe I haven’t spent enough time using it? I usually reach for the 50/135 combo.
I have the 85mm 1.4L and it's amazing. I don't know if it's as sharp as the RF 85 f2 but it is pretty sharp. I got it for my DSLR because it's image stabilised. Now I'm using it on an R7 it's very accurate and wide open it murders the background nicely. think it would be pretty damn good on an R6.
I love my little nifty fifty!! It's given me some great shots. I think it's the best budget lens out there. I also just recently discovered there is a lens hood for it which I ordered today. :)
Very useful video. Nothing like real-world experiences. I'm convinced to try and make up with lightweight budget lenses, until it would make more sense to get serious ones. I'm just at the beginning of making a business now, so I subscribed to the channel
The 50 1.8 is only sharp in the dead center, and I’ve seen this with multiple copies, hence the decision not to waste the money on this lens. Getting the eyes in focus is a must most of the time especially if you print the photos.
Great video Katelyn, how would you compare the sharpness of the 1.2 to the 28-70 f2 both at f2? Sounds like you're using the zoom to replace your lower than 85mm focal length workflow?
thn for the honest info. My son wants to start taking pics. thus I am trying to figure out what to get from a starter camera to lenses. that I won't lose my mind over if it ends up on a shelf in a year LOL thus this helps greatly knowing I can get 150-200 lense it will be good till he shows commitment. Now to finish up figureing up a starter camera that won't break the bank and do a decent job.
I WANT the 50mm 1.2, but I settled for the 50mm 1.8, since I only do photography as a side hustle and a hobby. Also, having a family with two kids and lots of bills to pay, I really can’t justify the 2000$ difference. This still does not kill my WANT for the lens, but videos like this show how far one can come with a cheaper lens.
You can definitely use the 1.8 for professional use. Been doing professional social media work for brands, even with the EF version of the 1.8. And "worse" lenses than that. It's ALL about your professional level, not if you can or can't use it. The first year of shooting, my lens for 95% of the video work I did, was a cheap 10-18mm f 3.5-.5.6 efs lense on a Canon 80d.
Great comments. I had a similar discussion in person with someone trying to decide between a new Sony A-series or canon R-series camera. He noticed I had brought in my RP to try out some used EF lenses and asked me my thoughts. Though i didnt stick around to find out his selection, I bet the salesman was mildly disappointed I brought up the same point on diminishing returns in photography that most of experience. Unless you have a true use case or are swimming in money, its hard to make an argument the extra $ for that incremental performance makes sense for a hobbyist.
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For anyone who has some of the budget RF f1.8 primes, I think one of the key things is to shoot it at around f2.2-2.5 if you want to get better sharpness and contrast while still retaining a good amount of background separation. This is especially true when shooting against bright lights.
Thanks for watching!
What if I use the prime with APSC? Do i just leave it at 1.8?
Totally agree as well as there is no this or envy greenish outline on a body thinking f2.5-3.5 gets rid of it for me
Agree. I rarely shoot on 1.8 or 2 as its too soft.
@@2darki I think you may still have issues with sharpness/contrast in certain situations. Overall you can still get some nice results though!
This is the content we're looking for, unbiased,, straight froward and honest. Thanks
Thanks!
One other thought about the Nifty Fifty (RF 50mm f/1.8) is that it also solves the travel question you asked some weeks back. Not only is this MUCH less of an investment to worry about losing or dropping, but it's also MUCH lighter and more compact to carry around, but still gives you VASTLY better shots than you could take with your phone. The 35mm could also be a great solution, depending on your focal preference. Both are versatile and give great results and FANTASTIC value!
I travel with the nifty fifty, the 1.2 is only for paid work. Taking no chances. Saw a few people lose their whole set ups recently.
I’d sure rather replace 159 versus 2000. Travel with that 1.8
Thanks for watching!
I've just bought the 1.8 second hand. Superb.
@@CarloPiana it's a budget banger for sure!
As Katelyn pointed out - if you can't afford the fancy version of any lens...don't stress about it. You can certainly grow your business with a 1.8 or a 2.8 or even a kit lens, really. Don't go into debt buying gear. Work on being a better photographer, on how to create a sustainable business, how to appeal to your market, etc, etc, rather than the quick dopamine payoff of gear acquisition.
I'm just entering year 3 as a wedding photographer, and while my business has grown quite a bit, I still pay cash for everything - well, I put it on my CC, but I pay it off in its entirety. ;)
A nice rule to consider if you're not sure if you can afford a product is whether you can buy it twice; if you can't buy it twice, then it might be worth holding off so you're not riding the line all day, every day. Because you never know when something might suddenly break and you'll be glad you have some cash to help cover the unexpected costs of running a biz.
Great tips, thanks for sharing!
I’m a 45 yr corporate and advertising pro. Buy the best gear and raise your rates. You don’t want to be the cheap guy with inappropriate gear that hinders your work. Being a photographer is about making great images- success will follow. I only looked for work for the first 3 months of my career, the rest was repeat and referrals. If you’re always marketing, you aren’t putting the work first.
If your work is low-light or available light, or you need the isolation of fast glass, you should buy fast glass-the right tool etc., and your tools shouldn’t hinder your vision. If someone is paying for your best, bring it.
That said, the 1.8 version is a good lens at f4. The 1.2 lens is made to shoot at 1.2-2.0. At f4, buy either. I own both, and many 50mm for different rendering. I prefer to manual focus a Zeiss (or Leica) than any AF Canon. I’d recommend getting a used Milvus 1.4 and adapting- it’s optically better, lighter and ⅓ the cost on the used mkt.
The RF glass from Canon is honestly so sharp and they have fantastic autofocus. I have the RF 35 f1.8 and the RF 85 F2 and paired with my R6, the results are often sharper than even some of their older EF L lenses. You really can't go wrong with RF glass, even on the budget end.
Love it!
because r6 only have 20mega pixel
It's true but the 35 is way sharper than the 50.
@@four-kings😂 „only“…you can print big enough
I have a RP that doesn’t have Sensor Shift in body like your R6.. is that make much difference in the final shoot or could be same.
So happy to listen to this video. I'm shooting with an R5 and the 50 mm 1.8 and have been so happy with the images I'm getting during family sessions. I can't afford the money for the 1.2 right now and my clients have been super happy with their images as well. This made my day!
As long as your clients are happy, that's all that matters! Glad to hear you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
So much fun to see you taking pictures of the kids having fun! I completely lost focus on testing the lenses and had to review everything! Much better than those very serious technical reviews
The 1.8 was a huge upgrade from my kit lenses... and I am by NO means a professional photographer, even though I would love to be some day... But I have noticed that the 1.8 doesn't quite give the crispness that I yearn for, but it has been an excellent addition for me, and has really helped me feel more confident! Thank you for this comparison. I really appreciated it!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching and good luck on your photography journey!!
I own both and I’m glad someone finally compared the two…clear plastic vs L-Series Glass
By far my favorite video explaining the difference between two different classes of lenses. Thank you!
2:32 It's not all metal. It has a poly-carbonate body, a metal mount, and some metal parts inside
3:40 The EF version has also a metal mount
Nice video. ☺
3:40 The EF f1.8 STM version has also a metal mount. The older EF f1.8 "non-STM" version did NOT have a metal mount.
@@set3777 Yeap, but she compares it to the EF STM version. So the Canon 50mm f1.8 II you mention is irrelevant
@@zambination11 OP must have gotten rid of her EF 50mm f1.8 II and bought the 50mm f1.2 USM instead many years ago so from her memory the EF version of 50mm f1.8 had a plastic mount.
It is NOT irrelevant. The Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II was the "nifty fifty" for 15 years 1990-2015 and sold the most so much so that many RUclipsRS even called it the "plastic fantastic".
The EF 50mm 1.8 (let's called it mk 1) had a metal mount but was only produced for 3 years (1987-1990) and is rare. And the EF 50mm f1.8 STM version only appeared since 2015 by which time many professionals have gotten the metal mount EF 50mm f1.4 or the metal mount EF 50mm f1.2 or the metal mount 50mm f1.0 instead of that "plastic fantastic".
@@set3777 You are totally right, but she doesn't mention the "old" version but rather clearly the EF version. So because she reviews the Canon RF 50mm f/1.8 STM, for me its common sense that she compares it to the Canon EF 50mm f1.8 STM is selling at moment.
Ok, you are about the best I have listened to. You got me hooked with you clarifying in first 3 mins. One of the best comparisons so far in the Tube👏
Awesome, thank you! Thanks for watching!
Ooooo... Can't get enough of these comparisons. They're all so fun to work with and The feel and images made by them are just 👏🏿👌
Thanks so much!
I really respect the honesty, practicality and reasonableness of your advice. I think it's spot on!
I appreciate that!
L lenses do bring presence, I find it important because it makes my clients feel secure that my prices are justified just looking at the hardware, it might be shallow, but is very relevant
Thanks for watching!
I’m kind of more blown away by the even exposure inside of your house to the outside. This video looks amazing. Great work on the whole thing!
Gotta love the 16 stops of dynamic range on the C70!
@@tylerherrinton funny thing! I was typing this as she showed the picture of the video rig. I have that same set up. The c70 and rs2. Such a great camera!
Thank you so much!
Ya their video set up for RUclips is insane. Probably more accessible when it can be a write off for a business.
@@jwanger142 I use all my own equipment for RUclips filming! Technically a write off for my own business I suppose but isn't all equipment a write off?
That was brilliant, thank you! Picking up my mini 50 tomorrow. Super excited ❤
I spent the majority of my first year and a half in business on my ef 50 1.8 and I love it! I just got the Sigma 28-70 2.8 this summer and am in heaven lol. I’m very happy with these two (I have a 70-300 4.0 that I hardly ever use unless personally for landscape) and will probably save for another year or two to get the 70-200 🥰
Thanks for watching!
As someone that can’t jump on a 2k lens right now this makes me so happy that I’m still going to get amazing photo to start my journey without breaking the bank. Thank you!
I have been struggling with this exact question! I am just starting to take my photography from hobbyist to professional and this information is exactly what I have been looking for! I LOVE your teaching style and will definitely be following you! I really look forward to taking your classes very soon.
Very nice to see something different for once, compared to all the other reviews talking about specs and this and that but not really focusing on hands-on experience compared to a much higher priced option. Thanks you guys for the video!
I had a wedding a weekend from August until October 1st and found the RF 50 1.2 for $500 less than retail on eBay and decided to purchase as sort of a long term rental and I’d sell it once the wedding season was over.
It’s fall mini and senior session season and I still can’t let it go. It never leaves my camera. I often debate whether it’s worth it, as it’s sometimes too sharp for some of my clients, but I still love it.
Thanks for watching!
I find that reducing clarity in Adobe camera RAW can soften skin and subtly reduce detail. It also softens highlights.
@@TonyGrant.duplicate the layer, mask the background and blur the one underneath, then lower the opacity of the upper layer.
i love how calm your voice and video are, thank you for this!
YES!! When I switched to the Canon R6 this past June, I bought this exact 'trifecta' of budget lenses: the 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm (all together for
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Which one is your favorite out of all? I’m really torn on spending the extra money up front just so I don’t regret not going all in…
@@breannamedek9186 sorry for the late reply, didn't get a notification on this. It really has to depend on what you do most. If events and groups, the 35mm is probably best for flexibility, and can still do decent if you need to move close for individual shots. The 85mm is GREAT if you mostly do headshots and portraits, but will struggle with anything wider or with more than 1 or 2 people. The 50mm is the best all-rounder, and if I could only have one it would be that.
R5 has given my old EF 50 f1.2 a new lease of life. Fast autofocus and now nails focus 100% of the time. Less digitally crisp as the newer RF glass but still a beautifully sharp portrait lens.
Love it!
Hello. Your review and advice is very apt and encouraging to all the budget oriented photographers. I like the way you have compared these 2 lenses. You seem quite considerate for the photographers who face the financial strain unlike some youtubers who are constantly praising the new stuff companies manufacture. It all boils down to our needs, our clients, and our financial status. Of course if everybody had the budget he or she would go for the best expensive stuff. Kindly continue making such useful informative videos for the photographer community. ❤
Oh my gosh! I bought this wonderful 1.8 refurbished for $79!! I just got it delivered and tried it out. It is amazing and if you are a hiker this is a no brainer. It is sooooo light! And it’s superb! Hiking is gonna be fun again. And I don’t have to lug a heavy lens around. I have the Canon R6 mkll and this combo is amazing! Best $79 I ever spent on photography.
That Canon Holiday sale was beautiful
I like how you light your video... so soft on your skin... and your hair looks great.... 😍😍😍😍😍😍
And your voice is sooooo calming... so soothing....
I am definitely subscribing. 👌
Solid advice. I would like to see a similar comparison between an ef 1.2 and an Rf 1.2
We made a video comparing the EF and RF versions! Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/DFjIsn52sTo/видео.html
I was actually going to ask this because I trust her judgment over most. I have an EF 85 1.2 but can’t afford the Rf yet and would love the truth.
@@thayes21364 the RF 85 f1.2 is faster than the EF version. If you are only shooting subjects that stay perfectly still then the EF version is fine, but if you know your subject is going to be moving around get the RF
@@cjm8160 or just learn photography and use a faster shutter speed would be a lot chepaer and smarter
@@southbridgeforestHOA faster shutter speeds don't compensate for slow focus on the ef version....
New subscriber! I somehow assembled the beginner wedding photographer kit by pure instinct. Very happy accident finding your channel, I'm now feeling great about my recent lens purchases.
I have L lenses and the cheaper RF lenses. I switch to the cheaper RF 50, 35, 24 for candid time. It really saves on the weight and fatigue for those few hours.. and less intimidating to guests.
Great idea!
I hit like at the first part of your disclaimer ma'am. Coz THAT is exactly what I'm about, and what I expect of people, and I know I have a quality review coming up here...
Awesome comparison video! I've used the Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 with my R6 and the results are incredible-way better than with my DSLR. Probably because mirrorless cameras need no lens calibration, and focusing was perfect!
Thanks for watching!
Exactly. No more autofocus problems.
THANKS! I'm trying to get into photography and sometimes the pricing for some of these lenses just make me feel that I will need to turn away from this. I knew there was going to be a difference but as you said, it can get the job done. Thanks for your insights, I do appreciate professionals making things a bit easier for begginers. hoping to watch more videos like this!
Happy to help!
This is the most fun I’ve had watching a review in a long time.
Good review. I got the 1.8 because RF glass is so expensive and for $159, it almost seems free compared to that $2K+ glass. Having fun with it. Thanks. I really enjoy all your RUclips vids. Please keep them coming.
Will do!
I've watched different videos on lenses, and yours was recorded with some much love. Thank you for the comparison. I can't afford the $2000 lens, but I'll be gifting myself with the $200 one today as my Mother's Day gift.
I really appreciate your reviews. I don’t connect with the specs other channels get into. This down to earth comparisons are so so helpful
Thanks for watching!
Great video! Just stumbled on it after purchasing a 1.8. I wanted to grab it as a low dough 50 mm. I have more money invested in my sport lenses. I love your presentation you say what you’d prefer but also show strong points of the lesser lenses. Great job
I shot my very first ever wedding with the 50mm 1.8 last weekend and it was a trooper. Thanks for this perspective! I’ve done several family portrait sessions with it and it’s fantastic as well. Saving up for the big boy lens LOL!
Admittedly, I just bought the 1.8 50mm lens, its my second lens ever. My first lens was the kit one, the 24-105mm f4-7.5 zoom lens and I have to say, the 50mm is BLOWING ME AWAY! I'm so excited!
That second will turn into a third, fourth, fifth…… 😂
Thank you so much for this video, you are always very honest and unbiased. 50mm has always been my favorite focal length, so I have tons of 50's. I think my favorite is the Tokina Opera 50mm 1.4 for EF, adapted to my R5. Believe it or not, I think that lens may even have slightly better: Sharpness, Colors, Contrast and Bokeh than the RF 1.2L at comparable apertures.. I think they are both equally as heavy too, unfortunately, but the Opera is far less, for sure.
Yay! This was awesome. Please, please, please do the RF 35mm macro against the RF 100mm macro next!!! I would be so interested to see the pros/cons of the cheaper vs the expensive.
I'll tell Ty! We did this once first because he already owns the 50 1.8 haha
I own both RF 35 and 100, if you’re looking for a macro lens then definitely go with the 100. I use the 35 for everyday photos and not for macro use since the quality just doesn’t compare to the 100
Awesome review🙃 - I currently own the RF 1.2L * I bought the RF 1.2L over the RF 1.8 after checking out lots and lots of reviews and i am satisfied with my decision. But your conclusion?
It's on point!👌🏽
Katelyn, I am about to switch / upgrade to a Canon RF camera. I currently have a T6s and use the 50mm f1.8 EF lens for portraits and astrophotography. It gets TINY pinpoint super sharp stars and it's fast enough to soak up tons of nebula gasses (especially with Ha filter inserted). My question for you is: Is the RF version just as good / comparable to the EF version? And should I just invest in the EF-RF adapter and use my old EF lens on my RF camera?
I love the video!
Not camera related, but I also love your jacket! Can you link it? ☺️
It is from Target!
The ultimate question: will your target market notice the difference?
In the vast majority of cases, absolutely not.
If you need the 1.2....rent it. Better for cash flow.
Thanks for that. It was really helpful. For me, another big decision factor besides the price is the weight. I hate lugging huge heavy lenses, so if something light and plastic works decently, that's a big plus.
Thanks for your content. I’ve subscribed to your channel and find your honest approach really helpful. I’m a part time wedding photographer based in the uk and have just purchased my first 50mm 1.2 (z lens). Very heavy but definitely seeing the difference between the 1.8 .
Do you mind me asking how you get your clients? I don’t really advertise and do around 10-15 weddings a year. ❤
Just wanted to say, your thoughts on this lens and your consideration of the people who aren't established yet in a business and can't afford the top dollar lenses is refreshing... many photographers would have talked down on the lens and somewhat making others feel like they shouldn't even try if they can't just afford the lens. It's frustrating sometimes to watch lens reviews on lenses that are in a more affordable price bracket for hobbyist or starting out wanting to earn money, hearing the reviewer that is use to using expensive stuff just looking for the worst aspects of the lower end glass and not even giving it a chance or saying like you said this lens won't hinder your from growing and you shouldn't go into debt and cause hardship when the 1.8 will do just fine till you can earn money and step up. Thank you for a refreshing quick view and honest look at this lens and as a parent with moving kids I found it useful that you shot examples with moving kids. Gave me a real life view. And didn't get super technical with test screens and and jumping threw all the aprutres to see where the lens fails and so on. You shot it took great everyday photos and didn't look to beat down the lens at every point.👍👍👍👍
Thinking about beginners real estate with the R50. Would this lens be any use? And what wide angle lens would you suggest for the interior images? Thanks 🙏🏻
😊When I bought my R5 I was pretty much tapped out. I bought the Control Ring EF-RF adapter for $199 and used my EF 50 f1.8 (note the are two versions of the EF 50mm f1.8. One has a plastic mount and the newer one has a metal mount which is the version I have). I slapped on my 50 and when shooting to learn all the functions of the R5. I was able to purchase the $3,000 dollar Canon RF 28-70 f2 on B&H credit card and its what I'm using now. 🤗
That said, I still love 🥰using my Nifty Fifty (aka 50mm f1.8) when I go out street shooting. The idea is, it's lighter weight and I get more candid shots because I don't have my huge 28-70 that makes people a bit nervous. The adapter makes the lens a bit longer which I kind of like because I can use the length to rest my camera on my hand. I also prefer the control ring near the back like film camera lenses did. I really wanted to just buy the RF version of the 50 but decided my current adapted EF works fantastic.
Something that's a little interesting. 🧐My EF 50mm has a starting focusing point of 0.35m/1.1ft. Whereas my 28-70mm starts at 0.39m/1.28ft. Now that's splitting hairs but the Nifty Fifty is slightly ahead for starting focus point.
I have a hand full of filters for my EF 50 which are very affordable. I have a basic UV filter not that I need UV as the sensor doesn't care about UV light like the old film days, but it makes it easier to clean. I don't get any dust or dirt on the inner sides of the lens. Just a simple wipe of the filter and it's spotless. Since the filter is cheap, I don't even use the lens cap because if you are like me, you keep losing them. I like to call my UV filter my Glass Lens Cap. It's always on and ready to go. I also have a CPL, and two ND fiters to go with it. I didn't buy the expensive Canon petal-type lens hood which I think petal-types are pointless. I went with JJC LH-68 cylindrical lens hood. It does a way better job because it blocks out more light from the sides. Even though it's plastic, there are metal parts for the button for removal from the lens. You can even reverse it to make it more compact for storage. Like my freaking front pocket!
🤓So how good is the Nifty Fifty? Yes its a little softer if you are pixel peeping. There is a slightly a little more color aberration but that's a easy fix in post if needed. My 28-70 also has the same issue just not as pronounced. So could I shoot an wedding with the Nifty Fifty? Absolutly! With the power of the new R series bodies the nifty fivty is a good choice for a first lens. Even when you start building your collection of L-series lenses, the 50mm f1.8 still has its uses. Even had I had a collection of L lenses, I still would run out and buy the Nifty Fifty. Its really that good! Light weight, fast, and affordable which makes it a no brainer. 🚫🧠 🤗
Thanks for watching!
I have the RF 50 1.8 for low light shooting (and the 85mm 1.4L IS as well). I had the EF 50 1.8 for my DSLR but you still had a bottom shutter limit - if I was real careful I could get down to 1/8th HH and get reasonably sharp images. Although the RF 50 1.8 is unstabilised the IBIS makes a big difference - I can comfortably shoot at 1/8th with it on my R7 - and lower if I have to. To me the 50mm 1.8 is a much better lens on an R series camera than it was on a DSLR.
I have the 1.8 lenses right now and wow, seeing the difference is amazing!!! I’m so looking forward to getting new lenses!
Thank you for giving your opinion! 👏🏼
Can't wait!
I really like the fact you are concerned about someone over extending themselves financially. The advice you gave is solid gold.
My firm rule is I NEVER buy anything that isn't going to appreciate in value on time. A house would qualify a camera, a lens, a car? Absolutely not.
Better to work harder, save up and then own it.
As you so aptly pointed out, having the less expensive lens is not going to hurt one's ability to produce an acceptable product.
And besides, we both know, that most clients could never, will never, be as picky as are we. They will naturally know that we are doing our best we can die them and love us for caring about them the way we do.
Your daughter and nephew are incredibly cute! Incidentally.
Thanks for sharing Erik!
@@KatelynJames You are very welcome Katelyn. I have a question though I am hoping you can help me out with.
I am going to buy the new Sony a7R V in about 6 months after all the as yet undiscovered bugs are exterminated!
I want to buy a good, high quality lens for it. One that will produce excellent closeups, median range (portraits) and handle landscapes serviceably but not particularly high priority.
My work revolves around my taking images I shoot, putting them through the arcane processes I have figured out and producing digital images that bear little actual resemblance to their progenitor photos, but which sell as giclee prints on canvas for about a thousand or so.
This likely will be the last actual "real" camera I will invest in as, let's face it, the quality the Sony a7R V yields? Who really needs more?
Yes, some my dear! I am sure - that that is so - but not, yours truly.
I can take a 13 megapixal RAW image right now, shot with my phone and turn it into a 24 x 36 inch print file that at 16 bits and 300 DPI is around 600 MB that's amazing and tack sharp.
So, I think I will maybe be able, with the Sony a7R V, to somehow muddle through!
If you have a suggestion for a really good lens, even if expensive, I would welcome very much your help and counsel. Thank you in advance!
Hey my car is worth more than I bought it for brand new (2008 Honda S2000). There are some exceptions 😉
Thank you for this video! It's incredibly helpful to see pro-level results with higher- and lower-quality lenses. I'm shooting with a 50mm 1.8 on a Sony Alpha a7III and am locking in on the closest eye with single-point focus; I'm seeing similar results to what you demonstrated here, KJ--looks crisp, but that eye isn't ultra-sharp when I zoom in with Lightroom. I so appreciate this video and all you do to encourage budding photographers! ♥️ Loved the kid-toy sound effects, too!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for the video! I am a newbie and just purchase a R6 mkII and the RF 15-35 2.8… One day I would love the 50mm 1.2 but after spending everything I had just to get started, I think I will start with the 1.8 now so I can play with the 50mm focal length!
I do like my nifty 50 and have captured some beautiful shots with it. I've taken the plunge and ordered the 1.2 (be here on Monday). I'm really excited to see what it can do. The nifty 50 is very prone to soft photos and I feel lucky when I get a good one. I found that the best way to get more sharp pictures than less with the nifty 50 is to stop down to 2.8 and set your shutter to a min of 1/100s (1/250s is the sweet spot on my lens). But Katelyn is spot on with her assessment on it. Make sure you have one in your bag and test your creativity and skill with it. It is a great investment for the RF cameras.
Enjoy it! You’re going to love the 1.2, it’s amazing!
Are you using that on a mirrorless or a DSLR?
@@TonyGrant. My R6.
I use the 1.2 for weddings and 1.8 for travel! Super easy to throw in my purse and grab some shots!
Thanks for sharing!
I just recently bought the RF 50 1.8 to use as my travel lens and I love how small and compact it is.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you, this was very educational and exactly was I was looing for. I'm new to this channel, got to say your video, lights and audio is outstanding! what microphones are you using?
Glad it was helpful! That would be a ty question haha
The 1.8 will always get the job done. Having a red ring on your lens (L Series) just communicates that you like nice things but it doesn't make your portraits $2000 better. :-)
This statement has an element of truth, but the thing is, even my cheap smartphone can make blurry images, same goes for my old Samsung NX1000 APS-C. I did not buy a full frame camera to continue making blurry, low detail pictures... 🤷♂
Sure, people say it is all fine from f/2.8-3.5, but that means you are very limited. Darker situations, indoor usage is out of the window. I will definitely keep abandoning this focal length until something happens on the market, never really was my favorite thing anyway.
very helpful video!
I would love to know your opinion with the 85 1.2 VS 85 2.0 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thanks for watching!
Nice. Shot with the 1.8 for a hot minute last year, similar results. The size/weight is one of its advantages, especially one-handed eg street work etc.
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I love this! I have been researching cameras under $200 to get started for better than my iPhone quality for RUclips. This was super helpful!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the honest review. I just got back into my camera stuff and purchased the RP full framed Canon. My subjects have all grown up, got married without grand kids for now.
I have a 1/2 dozen or so EF lenses (non L) and two EF L lenses (17-40) and (70-200). I really don't want to jump right into expensive RF lenses at this point in my life, yet anyways. My subjects will be interior design like kitchens and baths (which I do for a living). Thinking the EF L 17-40 should work for now. What are your thoughts for that type of photography? Sometimes I just couldn't get back far enough with the C-sized sensors which is why I decided on the full framed RP' I will probably use the photos for website, etc.
I also like to hike/back pack and the smallness of the RP was attractive to me (especially with that little RF50 you just demoed) I enjoy taking nice landscapes but maybe not at the expense of all that weight (and liability $$$) in the back country.
Love to know your recommendations if you have the time. (Subscribed)
If you don’t crop too much, what size can you print your r6 files (I assume you shoot raw)? Thank you, love the channel.
I have printed over 16x20 and it has been fine
I’ve never seen you before but I am so impressed by this video!
that is a great video Katelyn! what microphone are you using? the sound is so crisp and clear!
For people who ACTUALLY want and honest idea of what these 2 lenses really are: The F1.2 lens is FAR superior, in every way. It isn't just sharpness, it is color rendering and everything else. Yes, it is worth it. If you can't afford it, the 1.8 is just ok. But for nit-picks like me, the 1.2 beats everything else.....
Part of the Arguments IS to justify the costs, professionals Always Look for roi.
@@Tzunami07 ROI is one thing, and artistic vision and the creative process are a totally different thing. Pros need to consider the final product, and THAT will contribute to their returns. Of course though, customers are the final and true judge.
This sounds great for someone like me, just getting started, that I can use to make money and save for the 1.2.
Thanks you! Now I can focus on getting the RF 85mm f/1.2 L. Side note could you rent a couple of Lensbaby do a piece on the unique lens affects. Thanks in advance. 🧏🏾♂️👍🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Great idea!
I like what you said about gradually introducing L series lens in your collection. I bought the 50mm 1.8 because of the price and size but I plan on eventually getting the 1.2. I don’t make money from my work yet so it makes sense to go cheaper.
I am planning on getting the 24-105mm L series lens soon tho cause it’s a great all purpose lens. anyways thanks for the comparison video!
Thanks for watching!
RF 24-105 is fantastic. You’ll love it, and the 50. 1.8 is great in low light! With that combo you can virtually do anything!
Just discovered you and I loved this! New subscriber for sure thank you for describing your experiences so well and giving a realistic take on it ☺️
1st time viewer. I subbed b/c of your personality and how you presented the topic. Great work. Can't wait to see what that bell will bring 😏
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video and it confirms my suspicions, Sure the sharpness isn't as fine when you zoom in but I bet the 50 1.8 cleans up nicely by stopping down just a tad. Looking forward to making amazing images with my new nifty 50 1.8.
great video Katelyn! and what do you think about the ef 50 1.2? will it be better than the rf 1.8? i do have the rf 1.8 and i dont love it too much... (RP camera and going to buy R6 MK2 soon)
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I use Canon lenses on my R5 and also Zeiss Planar and Zeiss Milvus. I was shooting at a advertising agency's studio recently and it was overhead food. I went from the 24-105 Canon to the 50mm Macro Zeiss and when the image with the Zeiss lens change popped up on the screen my assistant said "Dude. That is insane". He meant, specifically, how sharp and in focus the Zeiss lens felt compared to the R5. I don't mind a bit of softness to a lens but usually on commercial jobs clients want everything sharp and everything in focus. The more expensive lenses tend to bring that to the table.
Of course! For commercial jobs you’d want the best of the best! But for the cost this lens surprised me!
What camera set up are you using for video, the shot of you outside was great 9:43
For me, the nifty 50 is a great lens for the price and a lot of pros have made a lot of money shots with them over the years. The main benefit of the f1.2 is the edge to edge sharpness, where the f1.8 clarity drops off on the edges noticeably. Personally, I'd prefer to spend the money on the f1.2 85 or the f1.8 135, and take the nifty fifty over the f1.2.
yes there is. since background get more bury out or blown out from 1.2 to 1.8 and 1.2 is faster glass
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It would be interesting to know if the 1.2 really offers more resolution or if a bit of micro contrast could push the 1.8‘s results closer towards the 1.2
I enjoy my 50mm 1.4 EF lens. The rf/ef adapter performance is fantastic. I will get the RF 1.2 one day but I love my middle ground lens.
This was amazing! Love your videos. Thank you so much! What are your thoughts on the beastly 70-200? I feel I was duped into buying the thing and now I’m worried I made the wrong choice. I’m wondering if I should sell it to purchase a 50mm prime.
Thank you so much. You’re video was incredibly helpful to understand the value of lenses.
The lack of M/AF focus switch might be the $2000 difference, but it shouldn't be (just include the switch!!!). Also, Katelyn your light and color in your video is some of the best on RUclips period.
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I loved your non-technical review. I'm kind of over heavy gear lol. I broke my old favorite lens for my Canon 6D a while ago and got a 24mm pancake for my little Canon SL3 to keep me shooting until I replaced it. I've had so much fun with that little setup for 3 years now. Well, I decided to finally replace my lens to use my full-frame camera for Landscapes again. I put it on there yesterday and just realized I don't want to carry it around. Now I'm selling all 4 my cameras to get the Canon RP and some pancake lenses. I've printed 30x40 with the SL3 and 24mm combo and have been happy with the results. I'm really excited to try my new setup soon.
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You are spot on! Great and to the point and good practical test.
For the first time I see a useful video without the feeling of being hit by a tech train!!!
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I own the R6 and the RF 35 1.8, 50 1.8, and 85 2. I’m not a huge fan of the 85 for some reason. I adapt the EF 135 2 when I want the magic look for portraits. The RF 50 1.8 is a great lens that gets tons of use on my R6. Would highly recommend it, not even because of the cost.
Interesting about the 85mm! I am so impressed with the 50mm 1.8!
@@KatelynJames From what I remember about the EF 85 1.8, I used to enjoy that lens back in the day. But the RF 85 2 just doesn’t seem to render with that “it” factor. Maybe I haven’t spent enough time using it? I usually reach for the 50/135 combo.
@@KatelynJames Have you had the chance to test out the RF 85 f2? I’d be curious to see what you think.
I have the 85mm 1.4L and it's amazing. I don't know if it's as sharp as the RF 85 f2 but it is pretty sharp. I got it for my DSLR because it's image stabilised. Now I'm using it on an R7 it's very accurate and wide open it murders the background nicely. think it would be pretty damn good on an R6.
Hi! If you had to choose between the 50 mm 1.2 and the 28-70 mm 2, which one would you pick?
I have been choosing the 28-70 2.0
I love my little nifty fifty!! It's given me some great shots. I think it's the best budget lens out there. I also just recently discovered there is a lens hood for it which I ordered today. :)
Really helpful video. Question about the shots that were a little off, was the camera on detect subject People? One shot or Servo?
Excellent video! Love the your relatable approach to this review. Very helpful. Thanks!
Very useful video. Nothing like real-world experiences. I'm convinced to try and make up with lightweight budget lenses, until it would make more sense to get serious ones. I'm just at the beginning of making a business now, so I subscribed to the channel
The 50 1.8 is only sharp in the dead center, and I’ve seen this with multiple copies, hence the decision not to waste the money on this lens. Getting the eyes in focus is a must most of the time especially if you print the photos.
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Great video Katelyn, how would you compare the sharpness of the 1.2 to the 28-70 f2 both at f2? Sounds like you're using the zoom to replace your lower than 85mm focal length workflow?
thn for the honest info. My son wants to start taking pics. thus I am trying to figure out what to get from a starter camera to lenses. that I won't lose my mind over if it ends up on a shelf in a year LOL thus this helps greatly knowing I can get 150-200 lense it will be good till he shows commitment. Now to finish up figureing up a starter camera that won't break the bank and do a decent job.
Excellent points that can be applied to all choice making. Thank you
I WANT the 50mm 1.2, but I settled for the 50mm 1.8, since I only do photography as a side hustle and a hobby. Also, having a family with two kids and lots of bills to pay, I really can’t justify the 2000$ difference. This still does not kill my WANT for the lens, but videos like this show how far one can come with a cheaper lens.
You can definitely use the 1.8 for professional use. Been doing professional social media work for brands, even with the EF version of the 1.8. And "worse" lenses than that.
It's ALL about your professional level, not if you can or can't use it.
The first year of shooting, my lens for 95% of the video work I did, was a cheap 10-18mm f 3.5-.5.6 efs lense on a Canon 80d.
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Great comments. I had a similar discussion in person with someone trying to decide between a new Sony A-series or canon R-series camera. He noticed I had brought in my RP to try out some used EF lenses and asked me my thoughts. Though i didnt stick around to find out his selection, I bet the salesman was mildly disappointed I brought up the same point on diminishing returns in photography that most of experience. Unless you have a true use case or are swimming in money, its hard to make an argument the extra $ for that incremental performance makes sense for a hobbyist.