Should You Buy This Ram Rebel G/T Over A Base TRX? Here's The Answer!
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It's a shame the GT isn't a package that comes with the 392 Hemi. With the 392, this package would have been the best of all worlds. The 392 would also make the price more reasonable.
Couldn't agree more
💯 should have came with the 392. I don’t get their thinking on not offering it in the GT Ram1500 and sport trucks
@@longboardguy you can get the 6.4 (392) but the truck version. They slap that in the 3500 and 2500 lately. As for the high performance 392 from the chargers and challengers is gonna stay there I think. You gotta get the trx if you want all that racing power.
☝️👍🇺🇸
It’s coming at some point
My biggest issue with the TRX is that I'd likely lose my license within a month or so. This package makes a lot more sense.
I bought my ram rebel gt midnight edition at sticker (because I ordered it) the dealerships are selling these 7k over sticker. Now when I was looking at the TRX (which I wanted) they are going for 96k but then also factor in taxes so roughly around 110k (with 60k down your payment will be around 1100$ monthly). Factor in you need high octane fuel, also factor in you get 7 mpg and then factor in the cost of rising gas prices 🤔. I don't know about you, but I make decent money and I still can't justify a TRX. You can only go so fast and how often are you off roading. Now if money Isn't an issue, yes by all means throw them bills.
Facts.
Thinking about ordering a G/T. What was your lead time for the build and delivery?
Taxes aren’t around 14,000$. But yeah still a lot of money. Gotta get a forum deal
I opted to load a Rebel instead of spring for the TRX. Can't say I regret it.
I wish the GT came with the 6.4, but I know RAM will never do it, for reasons best known to them.
Leaving that to the HD frame means less work
I feel like the GT line should have used the 6.4 hemi its super underrated and is a great middle ground between the hellcat motor and the 5.7
😂 Not even comparable.
I would love to see a comparison between this and the F150 Tremor! Both look like badass trucks.
The Tremor can pull more weight.
The Tremor can carry more weight.
The Rebel wins EVERY other category.
(Though I don't know about mpg)
I bought a '21 Ram 1500 Bighorn 4x4 w/offroad package 9 months ago. I've been a full-size truck owner for 45 years. This Ram 1500 is HUGE! I traded in a '15 Ram 1500 4x4 Quad Cab. That thing had great turning radius. This thing is a dang barge. Not a fan of the portrait mode screen and the knob shifter. Thinking of selling. 10k miles.
You may want to wait for the new Chevy & Ford mid-size trucks in 2023. All full-size trucks are massive these days. I have a FordF-150 & Chevy Colorado ZR2; the Chevy is way more enjoyable for every day driving, but has a very basic interior.
@@krasnaludek298 Unsure what I'm going to get. I want a vehicle that I can use daily and go 4-wheeling/overlanding on weekends. Unsure on ZR2. I'm single but have Great Danes. All 3 fit in rear w/seat folded. Test drove a Rubicon JLU before I got the Ram. Dogs fit good. Wanted 4Xe Rubicon, but non available in the state.
You're right. The new Tundra is bigger than ever too. They should keep the sizes of half tons in check and let the people who want monster trucks buy heavy duties for Christs sake.
@@mechmat12345 i for one like the fact that my 1/2 ton truck is basically a 3/4 ton truck...
There's no such thing as a half ton truck anymore.
Even my old 2006 Chevy Colorado is actually good for 1,545 pounds.
And my 2020 Rebel has the same turning radius as it does.
Some of your best work right here Nathan. Very honest no pressure or stress in your voice. Nice $50k truck too.
Except it’s not 50k. His example is 71k
@@sammyjammy6647 sarcasm
@@FrankySilverFace Sarcasm is better heard than read
75 plus here but i ordered mine from Ram
Traded in my 2020 Rebel for the new hybrid Tundra. If I’m not happy with the new Tundra this will be my new ride. Love the G/T package.
Do I prefer the dial shifter in my ram 1500 vs a column shifter? No. Does it clear up space and isn’t a big deal to get used to? Yes. Plus with the gear lever you lose the bench seat which is more useful in my experience
There is only one logical engine choice that should of been offered in the “GT” but Ram didn’t want to hurt TRX sales and that’s sad.
I love the way my Ram sounds, but when you're towing long distances over hills and mountains, that sweet sound gets old reverberating off the trailer.
Stacks would be the optimal solution for that 🤣😂🤣
Exactly this! After a few miles, the best engine and exhaust sounds are just silence.
I have a Carven and you can cruise without getting deafened.
I wish the RAM had an exhaust mode selection.
I actually prefer a gear selector that rotates to change gears because I'm a C6 quadriplegic I drive a wheelchair accessible 2018 Chrysler Pacifica and with an adapter that gives me 3 point to hook my fingers on I can easily change gear with the rotating dial vs a normal shifter like in that ram GT is unusable for me.
Wow! was really excited and looking forward to this truck/package when Andre showed us the truck several months ago. At that time I believed pricing was only suppose to be an additional package charge over the "lower priced" rebel. But $75K is Fereaking Re- dic-u-lus!. I too love that exhaust note and console shifting....you didn't even mention the "paddles" for the trans shifting. Damn cool truck but NO way can I stomach that price. I'm guessing the new Chevrolet z71 will probably be a better deal for the money with a truly trick suspension. Mfg./Dealers just seem to think they can charge anything they want for a 1/2 ton truck these days and we'll pay it. I guess a lot will but no can do for me.
Just FYI, the GT package is only $3k(ish) on top of a Rebel. If you don’t want all the other options this one has, you don’t need to be anywhere near $75k. Build one on Ram’s website.
Mfg/dealers do it because the market has shown them that people will pay it.
i got a 2020 rebel with 30K miles for $46K. with current truck prices. I love it
I just picked up my 2022 Rebel, not the GT, but it's still a fantastic truck! I'm not a fan of the E-Torque, so I just turn it off. I can't wait to take it off road for some great adventures. If you can't afford the TRX, the Ram Rebel is a fantastic choice for off road fun and daily driving. Bill from Linglestown, Pennsylvania
Legit question: What is bad about the E-Torque? I would expect it to add a bit of power and slightly improve fuel economy without you even noticing. What makes you prefer having it disabled? (Especially considering you paid for it)
@@-Jethro- I own a 21 bighorn myself with etorque and it is barely perceptible in daily driving. Start/stops are seamless and it does add a little extra torque to get you off the line. I’m averaging about 18mpg mixed daily driving. I can’t really say anything bad about it thus far and I’m at 16k miles without so much as minor malfunction. Time will tell though.
@@-Jethro- Being an old hotrodder from the early 70's, I looked at it this way. Instead of a traditional starter, the E-Torque system is turning the engine on and off every time you stop. Think about the number of times your engines turns on and off during your day. If you live in a city, the number of times it shuts on and off would be a lot more than someone that does highway driving. Over the life of the truck, the E-Torque system could be turning on and off literally thousands upon thousands of times. Any mechanical object with that much use is subject to a lot of wear and I believe subject to failure. I am sure replacing the E-Torque unit is very expensive. It will probably die as soon as the warranty runs out. Just a theory, that's all.
@@billjamison2877 Got it. I drove a rental car with a manual transmission and auto stop / start. Didn’t like it because it made me think I stalled the engine at every stop. I also disabled that, but of course you have to do it every drive.
@@billjamison2877 I was thinking the same thing about Etorque, but couldn’t you have just gotten the 5.7 with a regular alternator instead of Etorque on the Rebel?
I have a 2019 Ram, love Ram trucks but I hate the shift nob
“Budget” and $70k truck should never be in the same sentence 😂
Great review Nathan! I love the comical sarcasm he presents in his segments and it balances out the rest of the cast. 👍🏻
Ordered a TRX level 1 in December 2021 for $73k… arrival this week!
I like the circular shift knob it frees up more room in the center console
Like my dad would say 'it's loud, but at least it's slow!' I don't know for me I think I'd wait and order a mid/well spec Trex for about 85k and have a truly special truck that will hold its value we'll. That's just my 2 Satoshis
I have a C6 Corvette which is obviosly a dream car.
I also have a little work truck. But I needed a bigger truck.
So, a few weeks ago I bought a 2020 Rebel with 33,000 miles on it but in flawless condition -- at 20,000 less than the 2024 prices.
And I absolutely LOVE it!!!
The exterior is aggressive looking enough. And the interior is on a whole nuther level than any other pickup.
The interior is pure luxury.
And, the ride is smooth as silk.
But what really sold me was how fast it is. (Did I mention I have a Corvette?...)
It's fast.
Really fast.
And I haven't even started upgrading it yet. 😁😁😁
I'll keep my 21 Rebel ecodiesel and get 26-28 mpg. Interesting to me how we have all this technology and still have only increased mpg by what a mile or two.
Agree; being able to get North of 20mpg in a full-size is more impressive than anybof the other hype out there. Even my F-150 with 3.5L Ecoboost is only managing 17mpg.
That's because auto makers decided that they can save boatloads of money by shifting R&D away from more fuel efficient engines to adding 423985743895 gears to the transmission so their existing engines don't have to rev high and use gas
I wish they offered the diesel on lower trims up here in Canada it’s a great little engine. Gas costs for the HEMI really add up I’m almost at the pump once a week and it costs over 100 dollars to fill up.
@@purplepants491 I had to order ours. Worth the wait to us. You can order the diesel in all trims in the states. Why not in Canada.
@@fredv7487 I have no idea but I think in the past you were able to. I have the friend with a 2016 outdoorsman with the diesel. All the dealers in my area have one or two trucks with the diesel but they are all the limited trim and they're going for around 100k canadian.
That truck has a great sounding exhaust.
Can you get non etorque and just throw a pro charger or whipple on it? Don’t see why not
@6:47
Yes, Ram gave a lot of stuff that people are asking for- with the exception of the #1 thing people are asking for: a 392/6.4 up front. FCA is putting it in: Ram 2500, Charger, Challenger, Wagoneer, Cherokee, Wrangler, Durango, and even a possible PACIFICA!
But the 1500? nah.
The first series of the 5.0 in the F150s (2011) was still faster than the Ram 1500s with the 5.7 even then! That was a 6 speed automatic the. Too. Now the 5.0 in the F150 is the “slowest” (the 3.3 doesn’t count) of the gas powered F150s out there for 2022!! It’s a fair bit faster than the Ram 1500s. The 2.7 and 3.5 are so close to each other initially and then the 3.5 shines. Ram MUST do something about that 5.7 and develop it,,,, or another powertrain to stay relevant. The 5.3 in the GMs is not bad, but the 6.2 is also very fast. A 6.2 powered GM is definitely less money (feature for feature) than the Ram 5.7 current version, not the Classic crap they still push.
The Rebel GT looks great and has a lot of great features, but that motor is letting the brand down. Sure it sounds good, if you drive it occasionally, but as an everyday driver or long road trip vehicle???? No bloody way. The noise gets old fast.
I’m not against the noise, but not all the time.
This truck is exactly what I want. Ask the extras that I wanted to piece together and some!
Any idea if the exhaust is actually an in house product for ram? Or is it a rebranded corsa product like Mopar did with their exhaust products?
I ask because obviously it sounds good and if people wanted they could just buy the exhaust.
Roman's hairbrush...subtle👍
Nathan is always good for a dig at Roman. Love it.
I like the knob shifter better, because, that give me a bigger center console, were i can put more crap that i chew on most of the time,like an apple. And easyer access to my phone.
I love my Ram dial shifter. Up and out of the way. Quick dial back and forth when doing a 5 point turn. The gear lever just seems like too much tool for the job. Takes up valuable console space. Not as fast shifting fore and aft. My 2 cents. Great video.
I work for a large nationally known telecommunications company. I know our fleet department over the last three or four years quit buying ram 1500s because of that shift knob.
We switched to Ford and Chevrolet. I was just asking him a few days ago how many was purchased since we got away from Dodge, he said we have purchased over 9000 1/2 ton pick ups since then.
So basically that cheesy shift knob cost them over 9000 vehicles just in our company alone.
I was one of the few in 2016 to get some of the early dodges that had the shift knobs, we got 22 of them in all 22 technicians complained and they took those trucks back and replace them with Sierra 1500’s.
You can find used ones, for $70k all over CarGurus. Even New One in Granger, IA. for $75.275
100% agree I hated that dial and it’s the reason I stuck to ordering a Rebel just like this same color many features but I had to have the multi function gate too. Can’t wait til it comes in it’s a 2023 and the driver side dash is upgraded to all digital I am stoked!!! Slap a Diamondback cover on it and I’m done.
If I didn't tow a 38 ft. camper and a boat in the Colorado mountains, I would definitely have one of these trucks. Instead I have a RAM 2500 Laramie 6.7 diesel which I love.
I got my 2022 Rebel GT at the end of December .. knowing all the other trucks I looked at ran about the same crazy price and were on a back order, it was crazy so I got my GT for no down and yeah it was 70k but I can’t complain one bit I love it
Prefer the gear selector. Like having the space in the console.
The computer check Up is pretty cool. Keeping an eye on your lineaments also seem like they met for its owner to use it but also keep an eye on Maintance to end easier.
Shift lever is always the best!
It’s a no brainer, not even a question. As far as I know the TRX is the one with the 6.2L hellcat motor. Maybe there’s other options but that’s one of only 2 ways I’d buy a modern pickup after 1999 (Chevy, 93 dodge, 96 ford, etc), a 2019+ Ram 1500 with the 6.2 hellcat engine, or a 2019+ 2500 with a Cummins
Rebel GT's a nice truck but a Budget TRX *it ain't* no matter how you shake it.
Everything in the $3k GT package looks to be interior & appearance package stuff.
I like the dial shifter, it doesn't take up storage space. Put it in drive and go. Get a manual vehicle if you want a "real" shifter!
That exhaust sounds like Godzilla 👍
But that proper shifter comes at the expense of removing the third front seat, which I prefer. I really don’t like that center console that makes a truck feel like a car inside
Nathan the one weakness I would like you to addressed seems to be common to ALL super off road trims from the factory like Ram TRX , Ford Raptor R, Toyota Tacoma TRD PRO, etc. ALL OF THEM SUFFER FROM MEAGER PAYLOAD CAPACITY. Especially the RAMa because they use those air suspension which weighs a lot. I venture that truck in this video has a payload of about 1,000 to 1,100 pounds. What good id having a truck that can go most anywhere, but doesn't have the payload capacity to carry supplies and equipment so you can camp when you get there? four 175lb men and a full tank off gas takes up 930 lbs of the 1,100 pound payload. What the hell are you going to do with 170lbs? For $100,000 grand why can't Ford and / or Ram make a great off road truck with some real payload capacity?
Yeah sorry the difference in the GT being a 5.7 with an intake and exhaust vs a base 6.2 supercharged that comes with way more power. Now if I was dodge I would have atleast given it the 6.4 common. Yes then I might be able to get behind it possible being better but only in price and atheistics. That’s like dressing up and rt charger and saying it’s better than the shittiest hellcat charger and selling it at a hellcat price. It’s better than the regular 5.7 ram but it’s not worth the price when you can do that and more to a regular 5.7 for less if done yourself or even at a shop through aftermarket means. This is one of those cases where your not getting what you payed for but with inflation and restriction coming they are gonna use that against us knowing the v8 is going to die. Sad really.
What he said!
i test drove one of these with the etorque. i have a 2019 warlock and i noticed no difference in power, just pedal response. other than a nicer interior i had no reason to upgrade.
I have 2020 ram rebel
2” levelling
35” rubber
Muffler delete…
Level 2
I was debating trading for trx..
Test drive one other day…
That trx engine is amazing… but….
The truck is huge… I’m not off roading, it’s my daily driver…
Also,,; I golf a lot and drink a lot…
That trx will only get me into trouble.. speeding tickets and possibly dui jail time..
No thanks..
I’ll keep my blacked out rebel…
Black and red interior. Full glass roof, Harmon k speakers.
Large screen
Love my truck
I love GMC AT4’s and Chevy Trail Bosses a bunch but this truck looks awesome
Bring back the column shifter! One good thing about the rotary dial was you could still get a bench seat in most trims.
Late. But here in canada. You can get..find...TRX for $135k. Rebel GT is $80-$85....
Basically $50k difference.
That is alot and would make many take the GT.
$50k is a second car...or boat , etc
Well done Nathan! Great video
"Someone had to slam on the brakes. It may have been Roman when he realized he lost his hairbrush." lol! Nathan is always good with a rip on Roman.
Have a laramie 4x4 and truck has been great so far but absolutely hate the dial shifter.....am used to it now but still rather have a column shifter even over console one.....dial shifter was bad idea as well as location for push button start.......
I ordered one couple weeks ago all black with the night edition added and all options besides towing.. I don't really tow
GT should have come with the 6.4 L Hemi then I will buy it.
You guys should have done a drag race between the TRX and this GT, to show consumers how much it isn’t like the TRX. And let’s get serious, 71k for a daily driver🤷🏼♂️ ……what
Way to much for that. That is a nice truck but not $71k I bought a used fully loaded 802a 2018 Raptor with 25k miles for $60k last year and yes that's not a bargain. It's much more powerful then the 5.7, better offroad, and looks better in my opinion. However, the Ram GT exhaust sounds great, especially compared to the Gen 2 Raptor.
I prefer the dial gear shift by far. It frees up a lot of space in the console too.
Strangely, I actually like the dial. Its simple, easy and well implemented. 😃
They need to do just the opposite, put the Hellcat motor in the work truck package. Standard suspension, no fancy features, no big tires, no wide body, just a drivetrain strong enough to put 700+hp to the ground. I figure a $15,000 option on a $35,000-$40,000 truck. I'd buy that all day.
Lol we both know that would be a spinning machine 😅 😂 you will never hook the regular ram with all that power and no AWD. Trust me, you don't want that useless power it's okay the way it is. AWD is necessary with 707hp
@@alwaysdriven I didn't say no AWD, keep the motor, tranny, transfer case, and axles, just get rid of giant tires, air suspension, wide body, etc.
@@bryanhersman4037 I gotcha but when you said " work truck " I thought not just the engine is different its the whole drive train it wouldn't be a work truck with trx drive train. But I hear you ,
Y'all's favorite RAM dealer, Johnson Auto Plaza will absolutely sell anyone a TRX at MSRP. I'm sorely tempted but it still comes out to about $80K.
Waiting on my ram rebel gt to come in watching videos like this can’t wait to be behind the wheel ! 😈
Nice truck! I've always liked the Rebel package. Always enjoy Nathan's reviews, too!
Just bought a really nice well equipped 2022 Ford F150 crew cab 4x4 XLT Ecoboost for 45k.
To get leather seats which I really dont care for in cold country was
66k. Dont need to impress someone with a fancier truck. I'll keep the extra 20 grand in my bank not theirs. I really love Rams and recommend that people buy them but i just needed a change!
I call BS. On the 45k figure.
I have the same color TRX and it's just something about Hydro Blue . Tbh this is not a bad truck at all considering how crazy the market is for the TRX.
Ram air box and special exhaust means no increase in hp / torque ? Why not just go to the 6.4 and be done with it ?
4:17 A lot of people don’t have $400 to cover an unexpected emergency.
Looks like I'll be doing another once-over my 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 (with 5.9L Magnum). Terrible fuel economy but I don't drive far. I do use it to tow and haul stuff. I'm priced out of new vehicle market. I can actually afford it, but can't justify spending that type of money.
Dial is tucked away and has a lot of additional storage room in the center stack
19 mpg combined. LOL! And it cracks me up how important a gear shifter is to some people.
I seriously don't understand the hate towards the dial gear shifter. The space savings alone should make it worth it. It seems like a rather trivial thing for people to complain about.
I'd love to have one of these newer rams.. I don't want a rebel or trx though. I just want a laramie or limited..
Is the exhaust system on the GT different than the system that comes on a non-GT rebel???
Bloody good truck. Would like to see more real world testing.
I Agee the console shifter is the proper way to have a truck rigged up. I would pay extra for it
Sometimes when you offroad, there are split seconds where you do lose track of which way your wheels are pointing, especially with modern power steering. The reviewer of this video doesn't seem to know very much.
I'd love to see a side by side comparison with the rex
Sounds very good looks very good love the color happy happiest improves the Hemi fix all the problems what I thought maybe do we have a three-quarter ton version
RAM es RAM ...... Que bella esa Camioneta
Why is everyone so obsessed with shifters. Who cares how you put a vehicle in drive (in an automatic)
All they had to do was put the 392 Hemi(the SRT one) in these trucks and it would have been perfect idk why they won't do that already.
This guy is way better than Andre
Does this have the 392 I don't understand why that's not an option in the 1500
Nothing about the truck says $72k... $80k out the door. Jesus, you can get a really nice used Bentley for less than that. No wonder the used vehicle market is so high.. nobody wants these overpriced pieces of crap that won’t hold up for more than 5-6 years. Older is better now.
That awesome symphony of hemi tick tick tick
Only if I had the money, and if I could cook and sleep in it comfortably.
What does the G/T stand for on this truck?
Giant Testicles
No locker in front?
The 5.7 Hemi is all you need to go most places with this truck! Plus, think about it, there's a ton of bad things that can happen to a truck like that. From man or nature! Less liability for a truck that isn't the most glamorous. No. You drive a truck like that to haul stuff and beat it up a little With! It's what they're made for!!!
I'd go with the base TRX. The GT could have been so much more. I have a Rebel and I don't see anything worth upgrading for a GT. Most if not all can be got via after markets outside of the paddle and shifter.
I’ve always been confused why they do not offer a 1500 with the 392 Hemi. Would be neat to have like an srt version that was an in between the regular 1500 and the trx
That would kill trx sales, that truck would be perfect
@@erickonassis6310 eh I doubt it would actually kill trx sales . The regular hellcat cars sell really well even with a 392 option. It might actually hurt raptor and zr2 sales tho.
@@erickonassis6310 it would cut into power wagon sales if anything. Power wagons are pretty much a rebel for someone who wants a 392 anyways.
Isn't this getting close to a power wagon in price that's a better choice for offroad and also the dial is way better then the shifter for space reasons and plus you have paddle shifters so what's the point of a stick taking your center console 🤔
Let's get real: comparisons like this don't matter until prices and supply get back to normal. This and the TRX and both almost exclusively for people with no real budget, in which case you might as well get the TRX.
I'll stick with my Laramie, just not enough bells and whistles to upgrade to this trim level
Great video. Thank you.