The New Samsung DeX is Weird (OneUI 6)
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2024
- The Samsung Galaxy Tab S9 is up there as one of my favorite tech products from 2023. Near the end of last year, Samsung released OneUI 6 for their tablets & while it didn’t include anything groundbreaking - they did introduce the “New Samsung DeX for Tablets”.
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Yes I'm big fan of Samsung but my galaxy a12 is goat😂
I may finally trade my Note 9 in.... we'll see lol
not excited just switch from Samsung all to apple.
Can we open 2 Excel Sheets in Dex mode ?
Looking to get Tab S9 FE
The weirdness when you throw them around is to share with other devices, or extra external screens.
Operating a tablet will become an olympic sport by 2050 considering all those finger motion gestures hahah
That's how I felt all through my experience with iPadOS. At least OneUI and Dex all support proper mouse controls.
At least women benefit from men being better at using their fingers. 💀
@@iAmNothingness thats a wild conclusion
That's how I feel with iPad. I have keep looking up gesture control
That’s what I thought about excel. And now it’s a esport 😭😂
The only feature I like is the fact that you can still use the old dex.
Only thing they needed to change is to make it work more like a computer, like websites defaulting to desktop mode or a different version of the apps
I'm going to take a guess and say that new Dex looks like it may be a test for the total replacement for the Samsung tablet experience. Dex will go as an option and the new Dex will be the default interface for their high end tablets. Its blending the standard tablet and Dex interface together, making the standard interface irrelevent in the long run. It would cut down on the need to keep developing two interfaces for the same tablet. Thats just my guess anyway.
That was my assumption as well. They'll probably end up keeping the typical layout too buried in some settings or in Good Lock, but I expect new Dex to be the default tablet experience at some point if it pans out.
Samsung currently working with Google to build ecocystem that can rival apple/ So Dex maybe not there anymore as Google create a new table UI
@@fatcrruise6508but I kind of love Dex lol
Dex UI is a little bit slower to navigate compared to tablet mode
Mostly missing the side panel
@@zenithquasar9623Motorola Ready For > Samsung Dex.
Not having the external monitor support 9n rhe new DeX is odd. I feel like that's the biggest advantage of DeX. At least they let you go back to "classic" to get the proper monitor support.
Yep, I'm still using old Dex because of this!
Does it not have the option in the display settings to not mirror the screen?
@@jdneilsohow can you switch to the old Dex?
@@oc3144 Under the settings for Dex, there is a choice to use New or Classic Dex. Just select Classic Dex.
Argh! Yes! I even used that feature just last night!
Also, while Samsung forced their awful (IMO) "Samsung Keyboard" when using DeX on the tablet display due to the use of what I believe is a proprietary closed API, I can use Gboard in the dual display configuration as it would just show on the tablet display!
The new "DeX mode" doesn't actually launch DeX. It's just a modified System UI overlay, which is a lot more performant and efficient, because DeX is hella heavy. We just don't notice it now due to countless improvements and devices getting more powerful.
That's why it doesn't support external monitors. You're basically using a modified tablet mode. The taskbar is the same as the Fold because Samsung decided to use the native Android taskbar added in Android 12.1. If they can eliminate the DeX separation, they can get more support from app developers, as Google will never add something like DeX, so they want Samsung to support their features natively. This will help Pixel Fold's app ecosystem in the long run.
But the whole idea of DeX mode is to have a separate interface that is more geared towards using it with a mouse and keyboard. Windows tablets are not popular for this reason, touch interfaces are just different. It makes sense to have separate interfaces.
DeX mode without external monitors and peripherals is just a big touch device, and the whole mode would not make any sense. The reason people love DeX is that it turns its touch tiny phone into a big desktop computer on a big screen. I don't want a giant touch screen on my TV or monitor.
@@Netz0well it's a mouse and keyboard ui just no external display
@@Netz0 you can just use classic mode dex
Tab S9 Ultra user here. I've found that using tablet mode, multi-tasking, and minimizing to a bubble is basically just as effective as new DeX. Especially when you have it set to pull full-screen apps into pop-up mode by dragging from the top-right corner. I really don't need to have a persistent taskbar... Though, new DeX does solve my only gripe with old Dex - the ability to have widgets on the desktop.
Minimizing to a bubble instead of the taskbar is frustrating. You have to do an additional gesture to expand the bubbles to see the apps you have minimized. Having them readily available and viewable in the taskbar is far better UX.
@@nickthaskater To each their own. I don't mind the extra click and I like the additional real estate I get when the taskbar is not visible. I am, personally, able to focus on a task better. Also, I like not having a titlebar on each window. I don't miss it.
@@segaboy9894 there's no reason that the taskbar couldn't be hidden by long pressing it, just as you can on the Tab/Fold already. That negates the lost real estate if/when you want more screen space. You can also swipe up to show the taskbar if it's hidden.
I agree with the title bar issue. There was no reason to change the behaviour of the title bar from the standard pop up window which allowed you to choose whether to collapse or expand the title bar. That was a big oversight by Samsung and should be corrected to align with the standard pop up window title bar behaviour.
Same here. The new Dex features the one I've wanted for so long - widgets on Samsung Dex
@nickthaskater I don't understand your logic. You say you agree with me about the pop-up windows, but those require an extra click to reveal the window controls. If you need a persistent taskbar to save a click, why don't you need a full title bar to save a click as well?
I love dex! I think it's the most overlooked game changer in both industries I work in. Primarily education, Imagine teachers being able to interact with their students in tablet form, then jumping into dex to do their lesson planning, or even projecting their display on a TV. It would save so much money on Smartboards, and it would be convenient for teachers to have one device for their classroom management.
extra monitor.. seperate desktop is a must for me.. hope they keep that option
They did. Just select the old dex mode.
They probably are going to keep until they bring the old features to the new. Inevitably pissing some old users off but you know
@@diwaalejandrogalvez796 pretty sure they meant “going forward”. Right now its taking a back seat, for an eventual sunsetting. I hope they keep it too.
The feedback on the new Dex is universal. I hope they listen. I love your "Pop Up Window" branding suggestion. Makes more sense to make this new mode just a new tablet mode: *Default / Pop Up Mode* and then for Dex, they can keep the classic layout and import the few new good features.
1:58 it's because you can hide it partially at each side of the screen, including the corners with the application fully opened in the floating window
I use this feature a lot, and it is very helpful during multitasking
At least going off of what's shown in the video, it seems to be the difference between a fling and a drag. If you fling it then it will not go off screen, but if you more purposefully drag it off screen, it honors that?
Nice. One of best DeX feature reviews on yt !! Keep up the good work !!
1:53 For the soft border for the windows management you said " sometimes it does it sometimes it doesn't" it's about if you're whether throwing the window or moving it.
Just an excellent well put together video.
i like this kind of in-depth review. i subbed ! can't wait for more vids about Samsung dex and tablets
your content is criminally underrated. great video!
Thao Absolutely love your Videos and I appreciated your time and effort in making these Amazing Videos. Thanks so much enjoyed. ✌️💯
AWESOME TIPS THANKS THAO! I'm Excited to put some of the tips you've shared in my own DeX Vid! Thanks again!
My older Tab S6 wouldn't get this for sure but this makes me excited to get a newer Galaxy Tab. I love DeX, it's served me well for many years & was my OTG device when my old laptop started failing me.
Awesome video thanks Thao 👍🤗❤️😘
Your tablet setup is awesome😮
I want this as the default UI on the Fold. They should have left the option for the window bar that floating windows have where you can either minimize or expand the bar.
I use my Fold with floating windows and an external keyboard all the time, but the inability to minimize floating windows to the taskbar on the Fold is such a pain.
I have the Samsung Galaxy Tab 9 Ultra and am totally happy with it. Only use it in DEX mode as a desktop or laptop replacement. However, I don't have a Samsung keyboard case but I use a Logitec Bluetooth keyboard and the Apple Magic Track Pad as a mouse replacement. I bought a tablet stand from Anker (which Thao introduced a year ago). I can connect two USB sticks to these or connect a screen with an HDMI cable. This setup is sufficient for my purposes.
I'm in the same boat as you but don't have a tablet stand, this anker one sounds great, will definitely check her video out.
Ever since MS Continuum, I've been a big fan of this desktop «model». Good video! 👍
Well its really not weird if they give you the option to go back to classic mode!! The new layout is great for casual usage whereas the classic mode is great for more comprehensive usage.
I wonder if you can create an automatic modes and routines thing that switches between the classic and new dex modes when you connect or disconnect from an external screen.
Brilliant! Thanks Thao.
Great content! You're like the MBKHD for Samsung devices. Or is he the Thao for tech devices?
Hi @Thao, thank you for this review, I really like it even I don't know how I came here after search and look a interview with Snowden lol (I know HOW, it was a "click" but I don't know why RUclips suggest this video for me, lol.
The video is high quality, and shot from the right angle. Looks professional and (even) recording the video from "your" home (meaning the background we see ain't a studio) it is nice and clean so no distraction for what the reason and subject is why we watching and you have made. Sometimes we watching RUclips videos and think why they not ashamed or aware of all the junk (for those who watching to see) in the background while recording. They don't know it is in fact a mirror of themself, lol.
The amount of information given in 8m (perfect time to keep us concentrated) is more than some others do in 30m. You focus on the most important features it have with the information for us by explaining them one by one and why they might be useful. Professional how you present yourself, looking beautiful and talking fast at the right speed with a lovely voice, loud and clear together make it a joy to watch and listening!
All together (with the camera-man of course) this is the kind of content that stands out from the rest! We understand it is NOT 8 minutes it take to shoot and make this video before put it online on your channel. 😘
The original Dex is good for both external monitor and when keyboard & mouse attached. I personally use it a Galaxy Tab more as a tablet with my fingers. The original Dex mode is not so finger-friendly, that's why I didn't use it too often. I can see myself using the new Dex mode more but I haven't received OneUI 6.0 on my Tab S8+ yet. I totally agreed with Thao that the new Dex should be called an Hybrid mode rather than confusing it with the original Dex mode.
I have never liked classic DEX for tablet only use, and because of how big and persistent the taskbar is I tend to not to use it even when I'm using it like a laptop, but I would never excuse them removing features like 2nd screen support just because it's not something I use.
What dex mdoe do you have on your tablet. I have the tab s6 lite. Wondering if it's the same. Mine can't be connected to the computer via dex.
Can't wait for your review of the new Galaxy Books 4
Thaos definitely one of my most favourite tech RUclipsrs! Based in Toronto and a Samsung fan :)
I hope they keep both old and new Dex. I like how the old desk looked more like desktop.
I think a lot went on behind the scenes with the new dex. It's way more efficient and never gets hot now.
With the new dexbook rumored- who knows what they're planning. The update update felt really intuitive to me. But, I use Chromebooks a lot.
Good content. I have a Tab s8 Ultra and I admittedly don't use DeX much, but I just tried the new version while watching this video and I think it's really bad. Thanks for letting me know I can use the classic version. I really hope Samsung doesn't sunset the classic DeX, as I do really like it. I just don't have a need to use it often because I also have a Galaxy Book 3 Ultra. In fact, I have way too many different Samsung electronics.
Thanks for explaining why my new device was only mirroring the tablet display when connecting to an external monitor. I have been stumped for a week! Shall try the classic mode - yes this is definitely a WIP new mode, which is disconcerting TBH.
Well written video. Thank you
I noticed when you said it's unpredictable for the bringing the app back into space, what seems to be happening, is when you are "throwing" the app, it will bounce it back to the edge. When you move the app to a place, stop, and lift your finger, it stays there.
Thanks Thao for another great video! Keep us Samsung people informed 📱
you can set the dex to classic dex in the settings still under dex settings
Thank you for the tip on long pressing the dex icon to switch back to classic mode 😊
Yah hybrid is really true. The old classic Dex was quite good, but obviously needed some help. The short coming mostly came down to Android being primarily a phone, single app at a time OS. I replaced a laptop with Dex and hooked it to my 34" monitor. I daily drove it for over 2 months for work.
If I could have a Window experience that made Android work better, I would ditch Windows in a heart beat, except for gaming.
I'm an iPad user, and it looks like Samsung is trying to copy Stage manager which is weird considering that they had a solution in Dex that i have always considered superior to it. They should stick with Dex, it's really an awesome and quite unique feature !
The "old" dex is actually sucks in terms of UX
If you connect to a Samsung TV you can extend the screen instead of just duplicating it. Only found this one mouth last night !
Works best if you are using peripherals (especially a mouse)
Watching this video on my s9 ultra. Im in love
Verry nice thanks
Great. What's the maximum resolution and Hz for external monitor (assuming external monitor can support it)?
I just updated my S8 Ultra to OneUI 6 but hadn't checked out Dex (since I never use it), so thanks for this update. I'll have to check Dex out again. For me, how it rearranged everything and forced me to redo all my setup and learn new ways of doing things was a barrier, and that's why I stopped using it. While this new one clearly has limitations (the external screen issue is a bummer), I could see myself using it more. Will give it a whirl...
Good video. I thought I was losing my mind when I got the update lol😢
someone knows how can I get this calculator widget? plsss
I have only one comment here, I own the S9 Ultra, and I use it pretty much in Dex mode. One thing I don´t like is when I receive a phone call, I don't see it on my tablet, where in tablet mode I receive all the phone calls notifications from my phone on my tablet. Thanks a lot for all your amazing Samsung videos.
Phone dex currently has a bug in OneUI6 if you go full screen on an app the new top bar blocks functionality on items at the top of the screen. Really nurfs remote desktop. Hope for an update soon.
they should make it an option for that startup, i kinda liked it
That's pretty clever. It looks like if you flick a window it'll return to useable space but if you hold and drag the window you can drag it off screen. 🙂
I think if they make it a new seperate mode, it's a really nice hybrid addition to the existing software. Still, I hope they keep and develop the original DeX mode, because I honestly like the idea of using my tablet as a laptop too.
Which mic and audio equipment are you using? Sounds good.
For me to use dex, the loading time and the window mechanics were a deal killer, but the 2nd screen support is essential tho. I do like the window mechanics as they are closer to windows.
loadin time? it takes about a second to load into, much quicker than turning on your pc, what do you mean 2nd screen support? do you mean having dex running on 2 seperate screen bcz if so it will tank your performance you have to remember all this is running off your phone natively
@@dominickphoenix1568He means external monitor support.
My Dopesplay Wireless 15.6 is on the way and my S24 Ultra is waiting patiently :)
I wish the taskbar could be moved to the left/right side. I loved that on windows 10.
Thank you! I didn’t know reverting back was possible! The old DeX fits better my S9 Utra.
I used to have stuff playing in the background and then snap the main app I'm using to the side of the screen, over it and then dragging the rest, and just opening everything thst way in general, so everything could continue playing and running in the background, which it'd remember. Can't do that anymore. They should have kept old dex and then used this new version as just the default tablet ui. It is essentially no different besides opening in windowed with a bulky bar at the top just below the already existing motifications bar. Basically, click a feature to shrink your screen. You could even enable the bar on top of the windows in the older ui without dex.
This new dex is a dream for someone like me who use tablet to study!, this is a dreamm come true experience if ever have this tablet
I'm glad that im not the only one that thiiinks the new Dex is kinda strange... i have use it for some time now and i think thats not there yet. But as you said its a work in progress, so maybe in the future we can expect for some improvements
I'm sticking to the classic... Love that PC feels
Nice wallpaper. Anyone knows where to get them? The green and black one. Thank you
Does anyone know how you get predictive text bar while typing on physical keyboard. Was shown at 14 seconds.
I tempted to upgrade my tab s7 plus for the s9 ultra or s10 ultra :P when ever that comes out lol
Using extra monitor to use extended screen is a actually a practical feature for such dex mode... sad part they removed it
The transition is real smooth. Nice work Samsung.
Hi guys, I have the s8 ultra with the keyboard case, can anyone tell me how to get that on screen word suggestions at 0:13 please? I only see the white rectangular one with the Fn shortcuts when I type.
So it’s kinda just the iPad windowed mode? Kinda odd, although I like that it actually has buttons for close and minimize
The throw to top for full screen (/or pull to sides for splits) is under a patent by Microsoft for Windows I believe.
big thanks from japan♥️
I want you to do a detailed review of the One UI 6 Samsung interface Ahmed from Egypt
Hi could you tell us, how much difference now you see in battery consumption.
where did you get the calculator widget and my battery status widgets don't seem to be that size either...??
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Dex on my Xreal Air AR glasses. A productivity marriage made in heaven.
Will you be doing a video on the new Galaxy Book 4?
Rocking Tab S7+ on Android 12 , checking what's new ❤
I think the new Dex is like the gesture bar option on Samsung phones. I'm not a fan of the gesture bar, so I just use the OG 3 button setup, and I think I'm gonna stick to the old Dex too
Great video... I didn't even know that Dex had changed and when I put it on the other day expecting it to flip into Dex mode I was like what in the world is this LOL😂😂😂 thank you for this video
I dig this os new look. Very modern
It would be great if you could compare Samsung DeX on the Tab S9 with Lenovo PC Mode on the Lenovo Xiaoxin Pad Pro 12.7 👌
Just got the 6.0 on my tablet s7 fe 5g and i think what they tried to do was make it just easier for touch screen use. I feel like the classic dex is more for mouse kb and the new is easier for just using your tablet.
Love your hones reviews. Love Galaxy products. I just can't do everything that I need to do on a Tablet. Especially excel and some of the Web Browser Portals. Used the Samsung PC but they aren't powerful enough as a cheaper mini pc. I liking that duo screen Asus. Wishing the galaxy Watch had better battery life too. Shutting down everything just to get a days worth of battery power. Wish I could have the watch "always on" but it burns too much power. Best Wishes!
Explained exactly what I needed. I have a lapdock for my Fold5, and the lack of proper dual screen support means I won't bother with a Galaxy Tab.
Is the samsung keyboard better now ? I tried to use the keyboard but it’s very problematic to use. Keys suddenly not responsive
When I'm at work. I use my 22 ultra to cast dex to my tab s7 plus. Use my phone as a mouse pad. It's not perfect, but it works. Maybe make the cursor bigger and do something about the touch screen keyboard as a full keyboard instead of a smal pop up one. It is good for when I'm watching something on my tablet and I want to browse on my phone 📱. Just can't open the same app on both devices at the same time. Which is fine. It has come a long way, though, from the dock
Wait, can you do that? Via cable or wireless? I couldn't do it with my S22U and Tab S8.
looks cool but feels more like a stage manager mode and less like a dex mode where it feels like a laptop
What's a stage manager?
@davetech356 what apple has to make swapping tabs and resizing tabs seem better than base tablet software
Is that second screen your using there? I just got the s9 ultra yesterday amd the second screen menu is a second
Screen on my laptop but have heard they have now done something to stop it working
1:56 it's not random, look closely: If you "swing" it fast, Dex thinks you want to quickly arrange it so it's fixing up the overflow. If you hold it a bit longer, Dex thinks you want to precisely put it there on purpose (so it lets you do it)
Thanks, still waiting for my phone to replace my tablet and desktop....getting there.
What widgets are you using?
Also where did you get your homescreen pictures?
How come your word suggestions when typing looks like a pop up bar. Is it an S9 feature only?
DeX is so much better than Chrome OS imo. I would love if they made a small laptop with DeX os to see how far it could go.
please do a video of what is on your Tab S9😊
I think it’s stage manager in samsung version called new samsung dex
not sure what is this for besides making it feels more like ipadOS stage manager? i still use the classic for external monitor.
Man iPad should also get the snapping feature it’s really needed
DeX is one og the things I miss most from my Note 9 days
Thanks. :)