POLARIS SNOWMOBILE JACKSHAFT FAILURES. WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL ISSUE AND WHAT IS THE FIX!
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Thanks for video, no issues with my 21 850 vr1 yet, 3500 miles on it, never left my garage last year due to fuel pump recall, I greased the jackshaft bearing, my dealer tells me they don’t have issues with them ?? pretty sad Polaris wont cover the jackshaft unless it gets destroyed, bad engineering on there part, jackshaft should be covered in all situations
we agree but that is not our call unfortuanetly
@@JESSEJAMES322 we haven’t had a failure in our group of new sleds yet ?!?
🙏🤞
No sir we have not
I'm glad to hear they officially have the bearing issue resolved rather than putting a band-aid on it (i.e. greasing the bearing). I've made the switch to Polaris for '24 after being on Ski-Doo's for the last 22 years so this is great news!
little by little they are making improvements on the issues, Im exited for you to be on Polaris this year. What did you get and what did you come off of?
like we said in the video these would fail regardless of grease because of the design. Not lack of grease. Bot saying that lack of greased helped but wasnt the ultimate reason for the failures
Thanks Jesse, l'm really excited to be on a Polaris this year. I'm coming off a Ski-Doo Renegade X 900r Turbo (l've been on 4-strokes since 2010 with the exception of 2018) and l went with an 850 Indy XC 137. Thanks for the great videos you put out!!
Be nice to know the brand and number on the bearing. That’s a big deal.
Had this happen to my 21 VR1 with 1800 miles. Luckily, i saw if before the start of the season during inspection and everything including clutches that were damaged were covered under warranty. Check your bearings yearly and upgrade the parts mentioned here if you have a 21 VR1!
agreed!!
My ‘21 launch edition 850 jack shaft bearing blew at 2500ish miles and bent the jack shaft too. Lost a week of the 31 day season waiting for parts.
im sorry to hear that.
saw you at whiskey jacks one night keep up the good videos i am not knocking my dealer just the challenges we have to deal with
oh no way did you say hi? thats only 2 miles from where i stay so thats the last stop before home
Is it possible to install the new bearing bracket , move the bearing and add another shim between the clucth and bearing race (the stack)
Can you post part numbers for all the updated parts relating to this jackshaft bearing issue? Thank you!
Happened on my 2021 Assault 850 Matrix at the end of last season and resulted in jackshaft breaking as well! I hope they put In the upgraded parts!!!
Oh great, patiently waiting for it to go out on my ‘21 xcr now 😂
check it and replace it!
When Polaris stopped having grease zerks with greaseable bearings is when this all started. Also you must make sure the driven clutch floats on the Jack shaft and is not causing side load against the bearing. Polaris always recommended that both bearings be re greased every 500 - 1000 miles when the sleds had the greaseable bearings. I never had a problem. There is NO sealed bearing the lasts forever especially the driveshaft bearing. You must realize the Jack shaft bearing runs more RPMs so it won’t last very long if not re greased.
grease helps but in the video we explain that even with grease it wouldnt have mattered. and yes its spinning at a high RPM and all polaris secondaries are floating from factory. this was an issue of bad design unfortunately and way more HP and torque then years past
Hi I have a 2021 vr1 I don’t have a problem yet but in the near future I want to update to the new jack shaft bearing and housing do I have to update the jack shaft
technically they say yes
hello guys i have a 21 850 maytrx i ride the hill and at the beginning of the season i started to be concerned about a slight vibration. at 1800 miles i hit a deer in the woods between copanhagen about 8 miles from barnes corners. dropped off sled at my dealer whom i respect, sled was fixed 100 percent but i mentioned the slight vibration an asked them to do the bearings while at the shop knowing i had a three week turnaround if lucky. i was told we cant replace the bearing (s) as preventive maintainance but would when it has totally detonated. so i just ran it the rest of the season up to 2800 miles or so and the sleds drivetrain was dragging and my 800 switch would destroy it. i dropped off at the end of season for a recall and gues what the whole deal was tore up. yes my polaris extended covered it but now polaris probably paid 1800 instead of 400 who knows
yea unfortunatley that is on the dealer. That should have been avoided. If you want your sled really looked over give it to Bruce and his guys. They are the best around. Hopefully i run into you this year. of you see me make sure to say high
Im ready to ride already 😂😂😂My 2020 axys jackshaft bearing was dry and gritty at 1600 miles so every year I pull that seal clean the bearing and repack with amsoil#2 grease changed at 5000 miles but was still good same for the Drive bearings 👍👍
im ready to ride too!
Great information! Mine failed as well. At 5000 miles. Where can I get the number for the update kit.?
if you Give South Side a call they will be able to get you any numbers you need!
I've got a 19 Switchback XCR 850 - what's the Polaris parts kit needed to update the jackshaft bearing? I've got a friend with a 21' with less miles that had catastrophic failure that took out the jack shaft, both clutches with shrapnel and the bearing was in tiny pieces.
Thanks!
Bruce is sure good at simplifying it..tks bruce
thats what he does best
Hello there … 2022 850 Axys out of warranty with only 800 miles ..ask me why i’m here?? didn’t hit anything apparently Im the lucky one
Thanks guys,probably saved me from ruining the seal on my 22...
anytime!
Luckily I got a 22. Was wondering if heavier weight people going over big jumps would wear this out easier tho or would it take out suspension first before being an issue.
no that would be more chain case. This was just crap design really
well now we know that is the actual issues....ive checked mine and its dry ! I went to polaris for answer and the suggest a new mount and bolt! is that the actual fix?
we go over what the fix is in this video. Bruce explains in detail
I have a low mile 21' 650 I just bought. Should i be preventative and buy the bracket bracket with a deeper bearing well and a new bearing and replace the bearing and bracket ?
I would!
As an owner of a 2020 Indy xc, could I theoretically install this updated casting, jackshaft bearing plate, bearing and the Jackshaft itself without having to modify the chassis? My factory warranty expired a long time ago.
yes you can. we touch on that in the video!
@@JESSEJAMES322 I have an 800 though so a torque arm sprouts off that casting that doesn't appear to be there on the 850's
I thought people were having a bigger problem with the driveshaft bearing going? This is where you see guys put the older style greasable cover on them. Rick makes one.
that was an issue at one point but recently has been the jackshaft bearing
Great video! Question; Whats the distance the jackshaft bearing needs to be pressed on? I have the parts to prevent the failure and would like to take care of this issue myself. i have a 2021 polaris matryx VR1 850 137.
Thank you! i do not know what the dimensions are unfortuantely. youd have to call your dealer or Bruce at SouthSide to get that info. do you have the new jackshaft as well?
@@JESSEJAMES322 No. I didnt want to spend $370 for 1336949. There should be a recall for this IMO.
hey i am not Polaris. i just try and bring you and everyone else as much info as we know. i am not calling the shots
lets try it again."I have a low mile 21' 650 I just bought. Should i be preventative and buy the bracket bracket with a deeper bearing well and a new bearing and replace the bearing and bracket ?"
I mean there is no reason why they go so if you want to be sure you wont have issues then yes its smart
@@JESSEJAMES322 I think bruce explained it and iut has too much side load combined with crappy bearing
My 21 xcr 850 axys 3000 miles had bearing failure and gouged the jack shaft . Dealer called me today saying Polaris may not cover the jack shaft. Is there a notice or anything that spells out exactly what is covered?
Unfortunately no It is per case.
Is there a specific model that the jackshaft bearing is failing ? 600 / 800 2020 models.
we touch on all years etc that are effected more than others in the video
Problems NEVER ends on these Polaris junk!
hahaha ok. best of luck with the other manufacturers
Spare tire holder in your trailer? Did u make that or available from somewhere? Thanks
That is also a NITO TRAILER Special!
So I can bring it to a dealer and theyll fix it free of charge only if it grenades?
no they will only pay for the new jackshaft if it grendades. if the dealer cathces it and there is an issue they will pay for the new bearing, new retairer etc but not the new jackshaft
What if you usually do maintenance yourself and don't bring it to dealer?
@@peterloyland2162 Polaris needs solid confirmation from a dealer to send required parts. Just like anything else you buy in life regarding warranty work. Cars, etc...
Is it mostly matryx? 19 and 20 would be axys too but does it seem more common on matryx? Just bought a 300 mile 21 850 Assault. I’m a believer in pulling the seals and greasing but if replacing the carrier and shaft off season is an option for piece of mind I’d rather do it now if there’s a better setup. Got 10000 miles out of my pro s bearings just greasing them
its a mixture of both really. and if you for sure want to be certain i would do the whole deal. Greasing helps dont get us wrong but the way to really know its good to go is replacing all components
Do you know if the Axys chassis had a problem? I have a 2021 Indy 600 sp 129
not as much as the matryx
@@JESSEJAMES322 Ok. Thanks Dude!
Is this issue for belt drive sleds as well?
meaning non chain case models?
@@JESSEJAMES322 yes, did I miss that in the vid?
Nope you didn’t. This is mostly just trail sleds that see high jackshaft rpm for extended periods of time
Please tell me the gears that Bruce put in his 650 I emailed Southside but never got a response
Thanks
give the shop a call. ask for pete or Bruce. Always call! Emails and texts sometimes never go throuigh etc. Easiest way is to call
Another sad thing from Polaris. I've always owned reliable Polaris sleds. I think this should be another warranty thing. Sad to say. Then we will have go in a big waiting list to get it fixed again. Sometimes I wonder if Polaris and other manufacturers do this so people have to bring their sleds to get serviced. And the dealerships make more money then.
this is a warranty item if it breaks. i think you mean stop ride which its not a safety issue so it wint be. sleds are getting more and more powerful and issues that never used to be an issue are now becoming issues and this is one of them
Is this only the matryx sleds or is it axys also
Both but more so on Matryx
Is this a matryx issue only or the axys as well
talked a bit about that in the video and its mostly Matryx but some axys were effected also
@@JESSEJAMES322 I know you said 19-21 mostly had the issues. I need to inspect my 21 axys xcr 850 before the season. Thanks for the video
Job 👍
thank you!
You talk about too much nonsense before the content....
best thing about youtube is you dont have to watch any of it! dont like it dont have to watch it. simple
Step 1: Don't buy a Polaris. Issue solved
ok
Lmfao
That's right Skidoo has no issues what a flawless company😂😂
@@fcscooter No manufacturer is without their problems. Polaris just has by far the worst. What other manufacture has issued "Do not Ride" orders to their customers. And not once. TWICE. Once for the gas tank explosion issue and once for the clutch impaling your body issue. I would be thrilled if those were issued from 20,30,40,50 years ago. But no. They are both from less than 5 years ago. Clearly, the evidence that Polaris is getting worse has some merit.