I turned my front springs until they stopped and gave the rear shock 2 clicks up on the red and 1 click on the black knob cranked the rear torsion springs up to hi , just like Bruce said it made all the difference, I weigh just over 200 lbs but my 9 year old rides in front with me probably 300 lbs combined, I only felt 1 very light bottom out since the adjustment
Here’s what I found that works, If you’re average weight 185-220 lbs, and ride aggressively you should run the CC FTS spring, piston, and valving, 7 wt oil in the RTS, and 125 lbs IFS springs (2022 CC springs) with 7 wt oil. At least 200 psi in all the shocks and set all the clickers to 2022 CC specs and let ‘er rip! I also run CC spindles and C&A razors
definitely an option. problem is CC valving is a It harsh for many riders so we have set ups and valve stacks that fit all types of riders. we do extensive testing with a ton of differnet set ups to get everyones sled dialed in for them!
Hey Jesse, Great video. I have a 22 XCR850 and I weigh 210lbs without gear/235 plus with gear and a tunnel bag over 20lbs. HD torsion springs (on high), Cross country rear shock spring and all shocks re-valved by Bruce for aggressive riding. When I hit G outs or high-speed rough bumps the rear shocks hits hard. This was after trying the recommended settings in this video. I spoke to John at Southside and he said adjust the center shock to 1/2" and check the limiter strap. I also adjusted the high and low speed clickers 3 from full stiff in the rear. I did 115 miles on Saturday and it was better than the first ride but still the same nagging issue for G outs and high speed rough bumps. Do you have any suggestions?
Got some c and a pro skis for my 22 xcr 136. I was wondering when you got your xcrs if you ever compared the factory skis to your c and a skis on snow or if you just put them on before even riding on snow. Having never had the c and a skis on snow yet I’m guessing im going to have some oversteer compared to factory skis. Basically wondering just changing the skis what modifications did you have to adjust on yours. I have the 8 inch woody mavericks which may be overdoing it since I don’t have studs.
shouldnt have to make any changes. these should be a good addition. will have more positive steering and the sled will go where you want it too. and you want the 8's. great combo
Hey Jesse I just wanted to check but when you set the preload on the Front track shock spring you should set it with the track off the ground correct ? No weight on the track
Just touching back with you Jesse. I took my sled out last weekend it performed amazing. But I couldn’t figure out the best way to set up my fox QS3 for the crazy bumpy trail on the way home. Is it best to go full hard and full throttle or what’s the best way? I was dying out there LOL
Hey Jesse I have a 2023 XCR 850 128”. I am a ditchbanger and trail aggressive rider. I like to get off the ground and play around a lot. What would you suggest if I want the sled to rail corners but yet still be a little playful and of course not bottom out. I am 6’2” tall about 190lbs
the rail orders and be playful dont 100% go hand in hand unfortunately. the torsions are good for your weight so thats a plus. i would follow this set up guide and see how it is. if you do/dont like something let me know. I would suggest revalving the rear shocks if you are super aggresive
@ thank you for taking the time to reply Jesse I appreciate that. I will go with your suggestion and let you know how it goes. What about loosening my limiter straps a little? I know that promotes wheelies.
I would love for you and Bruce to test some products like that linkage modification for the Pro cc rear suspension,by HYGEAR it sounds like a good product...👍👍👍
The other thing I noticed is on the new cross country the rear springs push down in front of the Torque arm where it should have been in the first place not pushing down on the rail behind the front torque arm pivot!! That's why Bruce has such a time trying to keep the procc from bottoming! Tracks USA also has a front torque arm relocation kit....
@@JESSEJAMES322The 137 rail has a lightning hole right were we would have to bolt the spring retainer,The XCR has plenty of meat to drill a new hole,oh well I can do half 😂😂
You may have covered this before but i missed it. So when you turn the red clicker on the front ski shock do you have to hold the black clicker to keep it from turning. They seem to both turn at the same time. Thanks
Can you do a video or help me personally mainly on the centre shock? Why it’s important, how it works, what changes does what to the sled. I have a 22 cross country and I race similar to cross country races. And I am only 140 lbs I got rid of the hd torsion springs and put the consumer stock springs on. Should I get softer center spring too? Was thinking to try that hygear dual rate spring
the link below goes over all the basic suspension features and explains for the most part what does what. are you unhappy with the spring that comes in the FTS? ruclips.net/video/eUDG1CGPHdk/видео.html
@@JESSEJAMES322I am happy with it but I want to fully understand what is happening when the sled is hitting the bumps and what to expect when changing the spring or clickers.
@JESSEJAMES322 Could you or Bruce take a measurement of the rear suspension/front shock coil spring distance using the lower spring retainer to the lower shock body end cap(or amount of threads exposed)? I know Bruce said 1/8”-1/4” preload from 0 preload, but when it’s installed in the sled with that rubber spring boot installed, it’s difficult to find the sweet spot of 0 preload. Thanks!!
so its just when the spring has no tension on it and then add 1/8-1/4 to that measurment. loosen it extra. hold the soring up then run the retainer back to the spring. thats how we do it. i hope that helps
@@JESSEJAMES322 Thanks for the reply. It's just that it's so tough to actually tell when there is actually NO tension with the rubber boot in the spring... that's why I was looking for an actual measurement. I'm afraid that it may be too loose and cause an issue when unloaded.
So Jesse , Bruce , I went to the sled show up here in Toronto yesterday. Accelerated technologies. One of the best in the world for suspension. I talked about u boys and this video. They say the hd spring on my 23 xcr is too soft 💯 no matter what. They also recommended that I keep my front track shock spring( stock ) they work. I’m about 220/230 6’1” Soooo I’m Going to take my sled to accelerated technologies and see what they can do for myself personally. About $ 300 bucks Canadian per shock per revalve, is quoted. I think I may actually start to make some videos myself ?! I ride similar to you Jesse, ex mx’r // hard enduro. So suspension is key as we all know. I thought I knew a bunch about suspension but for snow machines, this stuff takes time. My old pro s took me about 1000/1500 kms before I had it dialed into what I required. If I was still riding my 2016 LE with needle walkers I’d be spending about 2500 Canadian to revalve ext. now the wife is getting it after a top end is done. Thanks so much again for the videos. Oh and I do the spring rates you boys recommend. I want my sled on rails that’s the goal. Period. Limiter is out on the pro s woke up the fun factor. Putting it back to stock for the wife. Cheers
Accelerated has great stuff. very very smart guys and many guys love their work. all suspension guys have different opinions on what works and what does not. what i can tell you is the 99% of people that they set sleds up for do not ride on what me and Bruce ride on. most of their riders ride on super highways with no bumps in sight. does their stiff work for that? from what i hear yes. but we ride on very very different conditions. so do i agree with everything they do? no. and thats ok because i am not riding their trails. do i agree with what they said about HD springs and the FTS/ absolutely not. But again they have very different conditions. so i hope they get your sled to work for your conditions. as long as youre happy we are happy. touch base down the road and let me know how it is!
i have not heard details. i know some dealerships are getting some clutches for the post recall one. not sure if anything has been said about the ring gear one yet
intersting take. i run can am but im not in rock country . deff was difrent perspective Thanks . looks like polaris really stepped up for trail segment .
I have a 2023 switchback assault boost that I ride 99% on trails. I am 225 pounds. My torsion settings are both on high and I am pushing through the corners and I can’t seem to get the sled to turn at all. Everything is stock 2” paddle if that matters? 4” carbides. Can you help me with my spring settings and my clicker settings? Thanks!
few things. start by adding preload into your ski springs until you run outta threads so max amount of preload in the ski springs. 2. 4 inch carbides do practically nothing. a good set of 8 inch woodys mavericks would do wonders. after those two things the only other option would be shortening the limiter strap which ive done videos on in the past
@@JESSEJAMES322thank you for taking the time to respond to me. Much appreciated. I know you know your stuff and that is why I asked you. I’m not saying you are wrong by any means and I trust you over the video but why does the Polaris video tell me to decrease the preload on my ski springs after decreasing the preload on my front track shock? Kind of makes no sense to me, After hearing you say that you want the sleds to “run on rails” so to speak. BTW, I had already ordered the 8” carbides but thanks for that recommendation also. I figured that would help.
they are trying to offset heavy steering. if you decrease preload in the FTS you are adding ski pressure so then they tell you to deacrease preload in IFS to offset that. Reallya double negative and not sure why they do that. Id try what i said and let me knoe how it goes. If you have facebook message me. its easier for me to keep track of the set ups for each guy!
Bought a 2023 XCR 850 136” used. Previous owner installed Hygear dual rate springs on the ski shocks any tips or recommendations on setting the dual rate springs
Hey Nick. So Bruce ran a few of those set ups on the front last year and we were not happy with them because the front end sagged too much. when that happens it puts more of the track on the ground causing inside ski lift and pushing in the corners. was this the only thing he did or did he do any valving etc?
I’m not sure exactly if anything else was done. Didn’t notice the springs until I had already purchased and was riding the sled late last season. The previous owner never mentioned them. The part numbers and hygear decals where facing the sled.
The sleds definitely an upgrade from my 2018 sp switchback😂. Only rode it once last year. Gonna contact hygear and see where and how they should be set.
Amazing content guys. Hey what can you tell me about the studs in that track? Do you have any thoughts/esperience with the Performance Stud Stars backers?
Thank you. Unfortunately we have not. We use Woodys traction products exclusively and absolutely love their stuff. Best support and product out there in our opinion.
Thank you. So can you share how you would stud a 24 xcr 136 850 for a 185 lb beginner who is relatively aggressive? Woodys seems to be suggesting three and even 3 1/2 studs per with an 8 inch carbide and I think that his video shows a 2 per and another video showed a 4 0 4 0 pattern. A number of your videos talk about two per being enough for an NA sled. I love the look of the two doubles on every second row but I think the scratch lines on a 3 per are better? Argh Confused on how much to buy and I know you have ridden them all!
Long time SkiDoo rider switching to a VR1 850. I’m 265 with gear on, sounds like you would recommend x stiff springs in the rear and 100 pound springs in the skis? Not sure what to do on the front track shock. Great videos!
Hi Mike! Congrats on the switch! So we’d recommend a full re spring and a full revalve as well. I was on a VR1 boost all last year and we talk extensively about what needs to be done too them. If you have any questions please reach out I’m happy to help
Hello again, my sled came in and I wanted to get the 100# ski springs and the only ones in the catalog are for the XCR. Will these fit on the VR1. Also looked for a stiffer spring for the front track shock and they don’t show anything. Are you using an aftermarket spring for this?
I’m running Fox QS3s on my Xc and we ride very aggressive. Would Bruce suggest turning the preload all the way up on those fronts also? Seems like the QS3s have way more threads on the body than the WE’s.
We have touched on this a bunch of times. We would highly recommend getting a full revalved and re-sprung all around. Those XC’s with the QS3’s only come with 80 pound front springs. Depending on weight and riding style we’d recommend 100’s or 120’s up front. If you have any questions on how to go about his I’m Happy to walk you through what to do
we sugget have It because of the spring not the shock. the spring being so soft does nothing after a certain amount of preload. if you had 100's then then putting preload in makes a difference becuae the spring has the energy to make a difference. the 80's barely have enough energy to hold the sled up. adding preload does almost nothing
@@JESSEJAMES322 I noticed that the bottle of my front track shock is on the left side of the sled. All the others ive seen it is on the right. Does that matter at all or should i remove it and remount so that it is the on the other side?
Just got my 2024 polaris switchback assault matryx 850 was wondering I want to get the front end as high as I can get I find it's a lot lower than my 2021 switchback assault axys anything you can recommend ?
Hey Rob. thanks for following along. with your current weight we would really like to valve your shocks all around and make some spring changes. That's to get optimal performance out of your sled and get it riding and handling the best it can. These sleds are set up for 180 pound guys stock so with your weight it would take some work. Any questions let me know!
@@JESSEJAMES322 Thanks for getting back to me. I was thinking to order the sled with the rear torsion spring kit Heavy Duty for my weight. could I send all of the shocks down to south side so Bruce can work his magic?
They have one for the 137’s. They come on the VR1’s. I do not have part number but if you call Southside tomorrow they’ll be able to get you all set up!
@@JESSEJAMES322. I bought one of the HyGear dual FTS springs since the stock CC Spring was back ordered. Bought from Bruce. BUT. What starting point do you have for the floating crossovers? 300# fighting weight.
@@JESSEJAMES322 Unless I missed it I don't recall hearing where to set front and rear track shocks? I did hear the front end shocks should be all the way out + 3 clicks to start. Is it the same for the front track shock and rear track shock?
High speed clicker (stock) makes basically no difference , stroking shock at 40 inches a second only makes about at 20lbs increase in force. Good video guys!
Great videos. just wondering is it possible for Bruce to wear a mic? We just want to hear his great voice and words of wisdom. Awesome job keep it up.. Thxs
This time was pretty good, just a couple times he faded away . I just hate missing his advise it has been sooo help full. I do watch the video a couple times though lol. maybe one time Bruce could try a mic. that would be great.. Keep on making the great videos. Thanks @@JESSEJAMES322
Can you confirm the part numbers for front springs and rear skid front shock to use off cross country. Stock for my xcr shows front as p#7045298-458 and rear is 7045374-458 and shows as 90/280lbs. My dealer is saying from Xc - fronts (150lbs) 7046146-458 Rear they have 7045856-458 at 135/185lbs Are those correct? Thanks for your help.
I turned my front springs until they stopped and gave the rear shock 2 clicks up on the red and 1 click on the black knob cranked the rear torsion springs up to hi , just like Bruce said it made all the difference, I weigh just over 200 lbs but my 9 year old rides in front with me probably 300 lbs combined, I only felt 1 very light bottom out since the adjustment
i promise we know what we are talking about! glad your sled is working perfect!
Here’s what I found that works, If you’re average weight 185-220 lbs, and ride aggressively you should run the CC FTS spring, piston, and valving, 7 wt oil in the RTS, and 125 lbs IFS springs (2022 CC springs) with 7 wt oil. At least 200 psi in all the shocks and set all the clickers to 2022 CC specs and let ‘er rip! I also run CC spindles and C&A razors
definitely an option. problem is CC valving is a It harsh for many riders so we have set ups and valve stacks that fit all types of riders. we do extensive testing with a ton of differnet set ups to get everyones sled dialed in for them!
It’s snowing today watching this for the third time ! Hopefully trails open In a few weeks ( Canada ) cheers again boyz !
i hope soo too! Cheers!!
Hey Jesse, Great video. I have a 22 XCR850 and I weigh 210lbs without gear/235 plus with gear and a tunnel bag over 20lbs. HD torsion springs (on high), Cross country rear shock spring and all shocks re-valved by Bruce for aggressive riding. When I hit G outs or high-speed rough bumps the rear shocks hits hard. This was after trying the recommended settings in this video. I spoke to John at Southside and he said adjust the center shock to 1/2" and check the limiter strap. I also adjusted the high and low speed clickers 3 from full stiff in the rear. I did 115 miles on Saturday and it was better than the first ride but still the same nagging issue for G outs and high speed rough bumps. Do you have any suggestions?
do you mean hit hard as in harsh or bottoming out?
I thought it was bottoming out but now I’m unsure.
I know after stiffening things up it made it better.
so g outs will be your FTS. are you feeling the "hit" in your feet? shoot me a message on facebook so we can get this figure dout
Great video, thanks gents! Bruce just set-up a set of rear WE shocks for me, very professional team at Southside.
They are a great group of guys! youll be happy with your shock!
Got some c and a pro skis for my 22 xcr 136. I was wondering when you got your xcrs if you ever compared the factory skis to your c and a skis on snow or if you just put them on before even riding on snow. Having never had the c and a skis on snow yet I’m guessing im going to have some oversteer compared to factory skis. Basically wondering just changing the skis what modifications did you have to adjust on yours. I have the 8 inch woody mavericks which may be overdoing it since I don’t have studs.
shouldnt have to make any changes. these should be a good addition. will have more positive steering and the sled will go where you want it too. and you want the 8's. great combo
Hey Jesse I just wanted to check but when you set the preload on the Front track shock spring you should set it with the track off the ground correct ? No weight on the track
yup thats right with the limiter strap on
Just touching back with you Jesse. I took my sled out last weekend it performed amazing. But I couldn’t figure out the best way to set up my fox QS3 for the crazy bumpy trail on the way home. Is it best to go full hard and full throttle or what’s the best way? I was dying out there LOL
Hey Jesse I have a 2023 XCR 850 128”. I am a ditchbanger and trail aggressive rider. I like to get off the ground and play around a lot. What would you suggest if I want the sled to rail corners but yet still be a little playful and of course not bottom out. I am 6’2” tall about 190lbs
the rail orders and be playful dont 100% go hand in hand unfortunately. the torsions are good for your weight so thats a plus. i would follow this set up guide and see how it is. if you do/dont like something let me know. I would suggest revalving the rear shocks if you are super aggresive
@ thank you for taking the time to reply Jesse I appreciate that. I will go with your suggestion and let you know how it goes. What about loosening my limiter straps a little? I know that promotes wheelies.
I would love for you and Bruce to test some products like that linkage modification for the Pro cc rear suspension,by HYGEAR it sounds like a good product...👍👍👍
That is our number 2 modification we’ll be testing this winter!! So it’s coming just need snow!!
The other thing I noticed is on the new cross country the rear springs push down in front of the Torque arm where it should have been in the first place not pushing down on the rail behind the front torque arm pivot!! That's why Bruce has such a time trying to keep the procc from bottoming! Tracks USA also has a front torque arm relocation kit....
so those springs are the #1 change. we love what they did theyre!
@@JESSEJAMES322The 137 rail has a lightning hole right were we would have to bolt the spring retainer,The XCR has plenty of meat to drill a new hole,oh well I can do half 😂😂
So if your brother in law over tightened the plastic collar on the front shocks and it snapped, how would your remove to replace it?
have to send the shock into bruce to have a new one installed. have to take the tower off (according to Bruce)
Thank you guys! Also how many clicker setting are on each clicker? Thanks
8-9 on high speed
12-14 low speed
You may have covered this before but i missed it. So when you turn the red clicker on the front ski shock do you have to hold the black clicker to keep it from turning. They seem to both turn at the same time. Thanks
great question. you do not have to hold the black one when turning the red one!
@JESSEJAMES322 Thanks love what you guys are doing 🤩
Thank you! appreciate the support!
Good video. Got a 24XCR 850 and cant wait to get out. Coming from a VR1 650.
congrats! youll be happy for sure!
Can you do a video or help me personally mainly on the centre shock? Why it’s important, how it works, what changes does what to the sled. I have a 22 cross country and I race similar to cross country races. And I am only 140 lbs I got rid of the hd torsion springs and put the consumer stock springs on. Should I get softer center spring too? Was thinking to try that hygear dual rate spring
the link below goes over all the basic suspension features and explains for the most part what does what. are you unhappy with the spring that comes in the FTS?
ruclips.net/video/eUDG1CGPHdk/видео.html
@@JESSEJAMES322I am happy with it but I want to fully understand what is happening when the sled is hitting the bumps and what to expect when changing the spring or clickers.
@JESSEJAMES322 Could you or Bruce take a measurement of the rear suspension/front shock coil spring distance using the lower spring retainer to the lower shock body end cap(or amount of threads exposed)? I know Bruce said 1/8”-1/4” preload from 0 preload, but when it’s installed in the sled with that rubber spring boot installed, it’s difficult to find the sweet spot of 0 preload. Thanks!!
so its just when the spring has no tension on it and then add 1/8-1/4 to that measurment. loosen it extra. hold the soring up then run the retainer back to the spring. thats how we do it. i hope that helps
@@JESSEJAMES322 Thanks for the reply. It's just that it's so tough to actually tell when there is actually NO tension with the rubber boot in the spring... that's why I was looking for an actual measurement. I'm afraid that it may be too loose and cause an issue when unloaded.
So Jesse , Bruce , I went to the sled show up here in Toronto yesterday. Accelerated technologies. One of the best in the world for suspension. I talked about u boys and this video. They say the hd spring on my 23 xcr is too soft 💯 no matter what. They also recommended that I keep my front track shock spring( stock ) they work. I’m about 220/230 6’1”
Soooo I’m Going to take my sled to accelerated technologies and see what they can do for myself personally. About $ 300 bucks Canadian per shock per revalve, is quoted. I think I may actually start to make some videos myself ?! I ride similar to you Jesse, ex mx’r // hard enduro. So suspension is key as we all know. I thought I knew a bunch about suspension but for snow machines, this stuff takes time. My old pro s took me about 1000/1500 kms before I had it dialed into what I required. If I was still riding my 2016 LE with needle walkers I’d be spending about 2500 Canadian to revalve ext. now the wife is getting it after a top end is done. Thanks so much again for the videos.
Oh and I do the spring rates you boys recommend. I want my sled on rails that’s the goal. Period. Limiter is out on the pro s woke up the fun factor. Putting it back to stock for the wife. Cheers
Accelerated has great stuff. very very smart guys and many guys love their work. all suspension guys have different opinions on what works and what does not. what i can tell you is the 99% of people that they set sleds up for do not ride on what me and Bruce ride on. most of their riders ride on super highways with no bumps in sight. does their stiff work for that? from what i hear yes. but we ride on very very different conditions. so do i agree with everything they do? no. and thats ok because i am not riding their trails. do i agree with what they said about HD springs and the FTS/ absolutely not. But again they have very different conditions. so i hope they get your sled to work for your conditions. as long as youre happy we are happy. touch base down the road and let me know how it is!
Any updates from Bruce on the primary clutch recall, when repairs will start?
i have not heard details. i know some dealerships are getting some clutches for the post recall one. not sure if anything has been said about the ring gear one yet
intersting take. i run can am but im not in rock country . deff was difrent perspective Thanks . looks like polaris really stepped up for trail segment .
they have for sure. Sleds work awesome
I have a 2023 switchback assault boost that I ride 99% on trails. I am 225 pounds. My torsion settings are both on high and I am pushing through the corners and I can’t seem to get the sled to turn at all. Everything is stock 2” paddle if that matters? 4” carbides. Can you help me with my spring settings and my clicker settings? Thanks!
few things. start by adding preload into your ski springs until you run outta threads so max amount of preload in the ski springs. 2. 4 inch carbides do practically nothing. a good set of 8 inch woodys mavericks would do wonders. after those two things the only other option would be shortening the limiter strap which ive done videos on in the past
@@JESSEJAMES322thank you for taking the time to respond to me. Much appreciated. I know you know your stuff and that is why I asked you. I’m not saying you are wrong by any means and I trust you over the video but why does the Polaris video tell me to decrease the preload on my ski springs after decreasing the preload on my front track shock? Kind of makes no sense to me, After hearing you say that you want the sleds to “run on rails” so to speak. BTW, I had already ordered the 8” carbides but thanks for that recommendation also. I figured that would help.
they are trying to offset heavy steering. if you decrease preload in the FTS you are adding ski pressure so then they tell you to deacrease preload in IFS to offset that. Reallya double negative and not sure why they do that. Id try what i said and let me knoe how it goes. If you have facebook message me. its easier for me to keep track of the set ups for each guy!
Bought a 2023 XCR 850 136” used. Previous owner installed Hygear dual rate springs on the ski shocks any tips or recommendations on setting the dual rate springs
Hey Nick. So Bruce ran a few of those set ups on the front last year and we were not happy with them because the front end sagged too much. when that happens it puts more of the track on the ground causing inside ski lift and pushing in the corners. was this the only thing he did or did he do any valving etc?
I’m not sure exactly if anything else was done. Didn’t notice the springs until I had already purchased and was riding the sled late last season. The previous owner never mentioned them. The part numbers and hygear decals where facing the sled.
so if you are happy with the sled then run It how It is! aside from those this entire video works for you regarding weight etc.
The sleds definitely an upgrade from my 2018 sp switchback😂. Only rode it once last year. Gonna contact hygear and see where and how they should be set.
not a bad ideaa. if you need help with anything though just reach out!
Amazing content guys. Hey what can you tell me about the studs in that track? Do you have any thoughts/esperience with the Performance Stud Stars backers?
Thank you. Unfortunately we have not. We use Woodys traction products exclusively and absolutely love their stuff. Best support and product out there in our opinion.
Thank you. So can you share how you would stud a 24 xcr 136 850 for a 185 lb beginner who is relatively aggressive? Woodys seems to be suggesting three and even 3 1/2 studs per with an 8 inch carbide and I think that his video shows a 2 per and another video showed a 4 0 4 0 pattern. A number of your videos talk about two per being enough for an NA sled. I love the look of the two doubles on every second row but I think the scratch lines on a 3 per are better? Argh Confused on how much to buy and I know you have ridden them all!
Thank you guys. This helps a ton!
Thank you! Happy to help
Long time SkiDoo rider switching to a VR1 850. I’m 265 with gear on, sounds like you would recommend x stiff springs in the rear and 100 pound springs in the skis? Not sure what to do on the front track shock. Great videos!
Hi Mike! Congrats on the switch! So we’d recommend a full re spring and a full revalve as well. I was on a VR1 boost all last year and we talk extensively about what needs to be done too them. If you have any questions please reach out I’m happy to help
Hello again, my sled came in and I wanted to get the 100# ski springs and the only ones in the catalog are for the XCR. Will these fit on the VR1. Also looked for a stiffer spring for the front track shock and they don’t show anything. Are you using an aftermarket spring for this?
I’m running Fox QS3s on my Xc and we ride very aggressive. Would Bruce suggest turning the preload all the way up on those fronts also? Seems like the QS3s have way more threads on the body than the WE’s.
We have touched on this a bunch of times. We would highly recommend getting a full revalved and re-sprung all around. Those XC’s with the QS3’s only come with 80 pound front springs. Depending on weight and riding style we’d recommend 100’s or 120’s up front. If you have any questions on how to go about his I’m
Happy to walk you through what to do
@@JESSEJAMES322 but would you guys still crank the preload all the way up?
no. its still only an 80 pound spring so you wont gain anything. I would really recommend re-springing the sled and re-valving the sled
@@JESSEJAMES322 that’s my plan, shocks will be going to Andy. My question is though why suggest it on the WE’s but not the Fox’s?
we sugget have It because of the spring not the shock. the spring being so soft does nothing after a certain amount of preload. if you had 100's then then putting preload in makes a difference becuae the spring has the energy to make a difference. the 80's barely have enough energy to hold the sled up. adding preload does almost nothing
Thanks for all of your videos! Very informative.
thanks for following along!
@@JESSEJAMES322 I noticed that the bottle of my front track shock is on the left side of the sled. All the others ive seen it is on the right. Does that matter at all or should i remove it and remount so that it is the on the other side?
Just got my 2024 polaris switchback assault matryx 850 was wondering I want to get the front end as high as I can get I find it's a lot lower than my 2021 switchback assault axys anything you can recommend ?
You can crank your front springs (add as much preload just as we said in this video) that will get the nose up a bit
No ship date yet but I'll be tearing apart my first snow check to send parts out to you guys!
well get ya all set up!!!
I'm thinking about buying a @025 Polaris XCR 650 how would set the sled for myself? im a 6'3" 330lbs
Hey Rob. thanks for following along. with your current weight we would really like to valve your shocks all around and make some spring changes. That's to get optimal performance out of your sled and get it riding and handling the best it can. These sleds are set up for 180 pound guys stock so with your weight it would take some work. Any questions let me know!
@@JESSEJAMES322 Thanks for getting back to me. I was thinking to order the sled with the rear torsion spring kit Heavy Duty for my weight. could I send all of the shocks down to south side so Bruce can work his magic?
sorry for the delayed response. yes you can send them down to him!!
@@JESSEJAMES322 that is fine.thank for all your help,but have decided not to buy snowmobiles.
Will the XCR 137 rail braces fit a 137 XC rail? If so do you have part nos? Thanks
They have one for the 137’s. They come on the VR1’s. I do not have part number but if you call Southside tomorrow they’ll be able to get you all set up!
Have the part number for the hygear front track shock spring? Thanks!
I do not but if you call Southside tomorrow they will be able to get you all set up. They have them in stock and ready to ship!
@@JESSEJAMES322. I bought one of the HyGear dual FTS springs since the stock CC Spring was back ordered. Bought from Bruce. BUT. What starting point do you have for the floating crossovers? 300# fighting weight.
Good video- are you still shimming skis on 23-24 xcrs- thanks
Yes that is still something to do if running stock skis
What position do you recommend for a starting point on the coupler blocks?
For the XCR’s the stock position is what we use most. Seems to work well all around
Would that be position 1,2,3 or 4? (1 being skinniest and 4 be thickest)
thickest!
155lb rider... where would you set the front and rear shocks?
shocks would all start same as stated in this video. ski springs the same. Only thing we would day is start on low for torsion springs
@@JESSEJAMES322 Unless I missed it I don't recall hearing where to set front and rear track shocks? I did hear the front end shocks should be all the way out + 3 clicks to start. Is it the same for the front track shock and rear track shock?
Picked up my 850 XCR this past Saturday, looking forward to snow....
Congrats!! I am looking forward to my sled showing up and then yes I’m ready for snow
@@JESSEJAMES322 We are still waiting on my son's VR1 Boost!
Boosts are held up for some reason
Awesome video.
Thank you! We are trying to help everyone understand and get their sled right!
High speed clicker (stock) makes basically no difference , stroking shock at 40 inches a second only makes about at 20lbs increase in force. Good video guys!
for sure! trying and keep is basic! Thanks for the watch!
Great videos. just wondering is it possible for Bruce to wear a mic? We just want to hear his great voice and words of wisdom. Awesome job keep it up.. Thxs
hes been doing a great job of speaking up. Was it tought o hear him in this?
This time was pretty good, just a couple times he faded away . I just hate missing his advise it has been sooo help full.
I do watch the video a couple times though lol.
maybe one time Bruce could try a mic. that would be great..
Keep on making the great videos.
Thanks @@JESSEJAMES322
Another awesome video! Love it!
thank you!
Jesse i had sent a message through instagram regarding set up question. Is there a better place to reach out? Great videos.
Thanks
George i just found yours. It was hidden for some reason. Replying now. Sorry about that!
Can you confirm the part numbers for front springs and rear skid front shock to use off cross country.
Stock for my xcr shows front as p#7045298-458 and rear is 7045374-458 and shows as 90/280lbs.
My dealer is saying from Xc - fronts (150lbs) 7046146-458
Rear they have 7045856-458 at 135/185lbs
Are those correct?
Thanks for your help.
Great video as usual guys 👍🏻
thank you!!
Hey Jesse, so if I understand right I can order 125 lb Front springs from a 23 Cross Country ?
U guys never explained where both clickers should be underneath.
Start them same as the fronts
Thank you u guys rock
Thx guys
No thank you. We’re happy to help!