Why Didn’t the Titans use the Pegasus-Class? (And More on the Crashed One)[Question of the Week]
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You can check out the QOTW on the Crashed Pegasus-Class Ship here: ruclips.net/video/BezRLpX6zMs/видео.html
What about the Albion from Gundam 83 Stardust Memory? Both her & its crew were absorbed into the Titans @ the end of the anime during the epilogue.
Hey @Kakarot197, I have to ask, what exactly did become of the Albion after Operation Stardust? Additionally and I know this is off topic but what became of the Argama after Karaba repaired it. Additionally what became of the Nahel Argama after the events of Gundam Unicorn?
Loved the Vodka bit at the end. I needed a good laugh to start my week.
Hey, good luck on the quest of MS model numbers!
Hey Kakarot197 sorry youtube deleted my previous comment i stepped on a red flag I think.
I ve found your missing ship. Her name is The Forrestal. She is the sister ship of the Gray Phantom. She was shutdown on earth side by Rogue Slave Wraith team's Ground type mobile suits.
She was commanded by a corrupt Federation officer named Grave and he used Slave Wraith team as his personal assassin. Due to his many blunders and losing the ship, it was covered up and Federation went hush hush but Zeon remnants knew its exact location.
This takes place in "Mobile Suit Gundam Side Story: Missing Link Manga" Due to its rarity and hefty price plus lacking English translation i couldn't double confirm it.
static.wikia.nocookie.net/gundam/images/a/aa/Forrestal_missing_link.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150702145213
This is a picture of Forrestal you can compare all the little details with anime picture. They are a 100% match.
From the location of antennas, shape, colors, weapons, and curves they fit. It is so accurate you can see 4 missile launchers which 2 on each side of the hull of the right mobile suit launch hanger and they are not present on the left mobile suit launch hanger.
This is the exact quote from Pegasus class information page translated.
"Forrestal - A Gray Phantom-type ship used by Federation official Grave. Participated in the attack on Solomon and A Baoa Qu. Destroyed by the rogue Slave Wraith team. Appears in the Missing Link manga."
Edit: This is my own theory; The place where ship's name was written, there were big branched trees covering it. Since ship's name was Forrestal which sounds like forest and In Irish it means paddock. This could be a hint or a cleverly hidden message.
Really have to wonder if the anyone working for the titans thought "hey, maybe we should adjust our look. We're looking a lot like the bad guys"
I think Jamitov's thinking was to cow Spacenoids (and 'rebellious' Earthnoids) with so much paralyzing fear that they wouldn't bother to think about doing anything subversive.
Granted that plan was up in smoke as soon as anyone knew about the Bunch 30 massacre, but that seemed to be the intent.
Scirocco- who cares? As long as we defeat both the fed and zeon
@@andrejg4136 Tarkin said what? /lol
Random Titan: You think maybe or image might need a slight makeover?
Om Bask: You're right. Wear more black.
Getting some serious "Are we the baddies?" vibes from this question lol.
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On the crashed Pegasus, again: "According to Mark Simmons the shooting script for Unicorn plainly states that this is the Grey Phantom. Being at Konpei doesn't mean she was sunk there in fact, some ships that were at the Naval Review were also defending the Solar System II at the end of the OVA as stated in the OVA."
Yeah, a nuclear blastnin vacum is a hard bombarment of gamma nd x-rays that the armor would likely convert into heat. If they were shaded by another ship thet would be safer
@@DIEGhostfish assuming it was near enough to the hypocenter. Its possible she was damaged but she clearly didn't sink at Konpei.
@@DrForrester87 yeah, though likely needed a whole bunch of the contaminated surface ripped off
The Pegasus Class concept started as an amphibious assault ship to deploy MS units during the OYW. As the operational doctrine matured, the ship design also evolved. The Alexandria Class WAS the right step forward. We see similar design features in MS decks of Irish and Argama.
Pour a shot, then drink the bottle and dig deeply into Gundam Lore. This man knows what's up. Lol
Mah man
My question proposal:
What was with the Federation’s obsession with the Zeta Gundam? They tried so many times to mass produce the thing (Zeta Plus, ReZel, etc), but by F91 we see that all those attempts have failed. Why do you think they were so obsessed with the Zeta and why did they fail to properly mass produce it?
most MS pre 0105（before Xi Gundam/Penelope） can not fly atmosphere freely like a plane unless the MS can transform into One（precisely it called Waverider mode）， so there is a high demand to replace FFs into TMSs， such as Zeta. Zeta itself was hard to build due to the complex transform structure， so it will not change even mass produced
I think it’s because of how using a transformable MS can do the job of a Dodai/Base Jabber while being able to participate in combat like a MS.
I wouldn’t say that the mass production of the Zeta failed, it’s probably because they’re expensive to produce due to the movable frame technology. It would explain why they’re not very common and only special units/bases like Londo Bell and the Cheyenne Base have them.
you can't mass produce plot armor
I think it's because they can fill role as fast response unit, interceptor, air support/raid unit, and others role depending situation. But zeta type frame too complex and costly for mass production so they only produce limited numbers. EF solve this by using methuss and ZII type frame that more simple and less costly to produce and maintain
Now I don't know why it didn't make an appearance in F91 besides the obvious reason being that it wasn't an idea yet but I do recall reading somewhere (Maybe gundam wiki fandom) That the federation did succeed in mass-producing the zeta gundam in the form of the ReZel. Now I don't know if it appears in Hathaway's flash I haven't seen the movie but if it doesn't then the likely explanation is probably that while it was a great mobile suit and was declared a success in mass-producing the zeta gundam it probably eventually got to expensive for the federation to afford.
That makes sense. Honestly, after your last video, I found out about the Blanc Rival and how it was still active in 0090. So the theory might have been had grounds to stand at the time, but then 0083 happened. Along with a bunch of other side material. If they decided to just push the Pegasus-class aside due to difficulty in repairing and keeping them maintained, well, that does make sense as in the Post-War time between 0079 and 0087, they are very strict with their budget.
Although, you'd think they would work on improving the overall design of the Pegasus-class to make it more budget safe. But given the rise of corruption in the Federation, cheaper alternative were more enticing.
Given said corruption, there is a potential justification for that theory in-universe where you just chalk it up to Zabi-style power plays; stating the Pegasus-class being discontinued/scrapped while holding onto some behind closed doors in an attempt to upgrade for later use. Still has little if any ground to stand on out of universe, but at least could be a feasible reasoning within.
It might also be that the Pegasus-class simply wasn't as good in 0087 as the newer Alexandria and Irish-classes, and thus they were, quote-unquote, relegated to EFF forces only, while the Titans used newer ships.
Plus, as stated, they might also have been hell to maintain since we generally see very little standardisation in the Pegasus class itself.
Also you could probably make several Salamis Kai for the same price as a single Pegasus, and the Salamis Kai has most of the same features.
When it comes to some lore, I also want to drink....
If I remember correctly the grey phantom shows up intact in the mangaGundam katana. It was originally being used by the antagonists True Federal, witch makes sense because their motivation against the federation and the Titian’s stemmed from how the survivors were treated after operation stardust was covered up.
Holy cow someone else who has read katana
@@krisblunden1642 striker custom for the win!
As much as I love MSs, more on ships is greatly appreciated. Especially since I've been trying to write a fanfic and trying to find a ship for the cast.
I’m also writing a fanfic as well my time frame I’m playing with is between 0081 and 0090 so much unknowns there you can easily make a good side story with.
Also the ship I decided to use for my main cast is a stealth custom version of the Albion Pegasus class line
What you could do is set them up with a kind of franken ship by going into the shoel zone and collecting scrap hulks and mobile suits.
The Pegasus class being expensive makes a lot of sense considering there is so many differences between them.
Another thing that could be is the Alexandria class are significantly superior ships. Better defenses, better mobile suit handling (MS repair & speed of recovery/launching of MS) & better weaponry.
That leads me into what I think would be a good explanation. Simply put, the Titans had to choose between keeping the older, expensive & war worn Pegasus class or getting Alexandrias. They chose to get as many Alexandrias as possible. The Pegasus class was then put into mothball which is why there were some still around in 0090. The Titans probably lost most or all of the Alexandrias which brings those Pegasus out of mothball.
That would also explain the Pegasus Kai as a modernization that happened as part of bringing old Pegasus out of mothball. Look at the history of the US's Iowa class BBs for a real life comparison.
The Federation also could have not trusted the titans as much as their leader though they did. So the federation gave them less powerful vessels so they could be easier to control.
Always felt like aside from the various Pegasus class ships there was a definite lack of solid, dedicated carry ships. It seems more like they preferred to have every vessel carry a handful of Mobile Suits rather than have singular vessels dedicated to servicing Mobile Suits and Strike Craft.
My guess is that if one ship is destroyed there's not many ms orphaned so they can be easily re distributed to the remaining ships
Cruiser carriers are just more interesting to look at really.
another thing about the Pegasus class, at least the White Base variant (which has White Base Jr and the Pegasus) is that they could only carry 6 mobile suits and maybe 2 fighters. The Alexandria class is able to carry 12 mobile suits and it is better armed that any Pegasus class ship (talking about different versions like the Blanc Rival, Thoroughbred, Albion and Grey Phantom/Stallion). The only Pegasus class ship that can carry more mobile suits and is very well armed is the Spartan from Thunderbolt but that is in its own universe now.
The part about the AEUG using Pegasus classes symbols to rally behind as being a reason the Titans decommissioned them reminds me of Star Wars. When the Republic became the Empire, they quickly phased out the Venator class Star Destroyer for the newer Victory class and then later the infamous Imperial class. Part of that was the Empire was wanting to shift away from assault carrier based warfare to straight ship to ship fighting but another big part of it was symbolic. The Venator had been a huge icon of the now former Republic and to a lesser but significant extent, the Jedi, which were both something the Empire wished to erase any memory of.
Question of the week : what is the best ”grunt" unit or mass produce unit from each series or timeline, used either by the good guys or the bad guys
I personally love the Jeagan from U.C. ,
The Flag from A.D.,
the FLAT from C.C.,
the Aries from A.C.
Seed didn’t really have good grunt suits they were all just U.C. Rehashes, and cannon fodder for god Yamato
I also really dig the GM designs from 0080 and 08th MS team.
what makes it funnier is that the Zeon remnants used a Pegasus ship as a makeshift base which is the symbol of the Federation.
I feel the irony of this was not lost on Loni or Kirks. There's a light novel or manga side story in there somewhere. Neo-Zeon forces getting heckled for using a Pegasus Class as a base
Question of the week:
What's the political situation on Earth in UC 0075~0100? Obviously, we know the Federation holds political power, but there are hints in First Gundam that there's an "Atlantic faction". And we repeatedly see that Zeon remnants manage to maintain a presence in some areas over many years. It doesn't feel like a place where the rule of law applies uniformly.
That is a TERRIBLE question. Do you know how much bat shit insane things have happened in that "short" 25-year time? That is literally even before MSG until just before MSGH. Lower your time frame into smaller segments because the 25 years are just way too damn long.
Just to put it to scale, these are all major events within those 25 years that have been animated: Zeon Militarization, Sydney Colony Drop, OYW, Solomon Nuke, North America Colony Drop, Gryps War, First Neo Zeon War with Fed Capital of Dakar occupation & Dublin Colony Drop, Second Neo Zeon War & the Char Asteroids, Third Neo Zeon War and those attacks, then the reveal of Laplaces Box. Can you even start to think just how much the public consciousness changes for any one of these events, let alone going through all of them?
@@JosephJoboLicayan I wouldn't ask that of just about anyone. You'd have to be the sort of person who embarks on a journey to rationalize *all* mobile suit model numbers to tackle a question this vast.
Okay I almost died when you used Ellen Baker-Sensei! XD I worked as an ALT in Japan from 2015-2020 and I used that book to teach English. When the memes started, we had some... amusing staff discussions about it. XD
I totally agree with your assessment that the ship couldn't make an uncontrolled reentry. However there's also nothing saying that it didn't make a controlled reentry and get abandoned on the mountain afterwards. So I'll put forward a theory as to how it happened.
Based on nuclear tests radiation was a big issue with non-acmospheric tests showing this being the biggest threat opposed to nukes detonated in atmosphere. So some crew either survived long enough to get the ship through the atmosphere and had to abandon the ship to get away from the radiation. Or a replacement crew was put on board and once again once through the atmosphere had to abandon ship. The powers that be then decide that a radioactive ship that will kill anyone aboard it not to be a threat and just leave it on the mountain.
They then care little for the people living around the ship. Much the way with landmines and other leftover munitions
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Same!
Great timing on the video. Came out on break at work and a great moral boost for a rough day. Always enjoy your vids keep em coming!
The crashed ship is most likely a Grey Phantom, and my theory is: that area might be the territory of Zeon's guerrilla hideout, they maybe got informed that one federation ship will go through this area, so they were standby and prepare for an heavy ambush, the ship moving across that mountain low and slow, so it got ambushed and the engine were almost total lost, the ship got stalled and free fall, it ended up crashed on the mountain. Look at the scene, the crashed ship doesn't look like it crash while moving fast, it's more like falling crash from losing speed. But I think the ship may already got damaged from their last battle and they're just unlucky for getting ambushed while looking for repairs.
I think it almost the same way The Archangel was used as a sacrificial lamb to the Earth Allaince, when they made a sister ship The Dominion.
Man knows what's up. That shot poured at the end is for South Burning.
Love this channel. Keep it going brother!
I think it more has to do with refittablity. Look a unicorn they refitted the argama class and irish class ships to a new standard with parts from the clop and ra cailum classes. So maybe to to the various classes of the Pegasus line it would have been easlier to just reset your mobile carriers with a clean slate design like the Alexanderia
(Question of the Week)
Why did Master Asia never have any DG Cells on his body during the events of G Gundam?
His Howe Gundam transformed into the Master Gundam just like the other 3 evil kings, but the other 3 all had DG Cells
The Master Gundam also used self recovery to challenge Domon's new Burning Gundam
@UCfDtiropOQJnbXw0FZMO0Gw Every gundam that used self recovery came into contact with the Dark Gundam just prior and were infected with DG Cells, excluding Master Gundam.
Also, given that the Dark Gundam chose to just infect everyone with DG Cells so it can self multiply, it's weird that it would be fine with sparing Master Asia.
And I would hate to reply to you that we are in the G Gundam universe. Where there is science and there is the more insane martial arts magic. And with Master Asia being a both the previous champion and a martial arts masters (capable of catching mobile suit size bullets with his bare hands) he willingly did not allow the DG cells to infect his body.
And I always thought that When Domon got his new god/burning gundam and fought Master Asia in the masters gundam and made the master gundam explode and the god/burning Gundam flew all the way from that battle site to Hong Kong and by the next episode Master Asia was already at Hong Kong with seemingly no damage or concern with Domon being at Hong Kong that lead me to believe that the Master Asia that Domon fought was a clone or visual copy of Master Asia created and possibly trained or spared with the real Master Asia. That or more martial arts Magic.
@@GojiraFan-in9oo My headcannon is that Devil Gundam became quasi sentient after it absorbed Kyoji and mostly just infected everyone with DG cells to humor both itself and the unwary "hosts" because they only saw the Gundam and it's DG Cells as a way to get power. The folly with this was that the Devil Gundam could never be controlled/commanded or made to be "kind" as the leader of Neo Hong Kong tried to spin it and only confirmed it's hypothesis that humans were the problem. Incidentally, Master Asia also believed that humanity was the cause of Earth's pain and wanted to fix the "problem",so when he came across the Devil Gundam he immediately understood what it was trying to accomplish and joined the Gundam as a 100% willing participant that didn't try to use the Gundam as a source of power. Seeing how Master Asia was an exception to its rule on humanity's lust for power the devil gundam actually respected Master Asia enough to not infect him; after all why infect an actual ally who doesn't care for more power, actually understands what you're doing and is very willing to aid you?
As for the Guiana Highlands fight, there's a good chance that was a DG cell clone of Master Asia and his gundam that the real one was controlling while he was in Hong Kong (IE the clone was his eyes and ears as he remained in Hong Kong due to his sickness). Incidentally, this would also explain how Master Asia was able to catch MS sized ammunition, but I'm just pushing it there.
@@MachineMindDesigns that theory is extremely pushing it. Even in the 2nd half Master Asia was able to send a skyscraper flying with Domon's help despite being wounded, so destroying mobile suits with only a headband makes sense in that regard.
Sure the Dark Gundam made a DG Cell clone of Kyoji, but that was Kyoji's last moment of being able to control the Dark Gundam.
Also I doubt that the resurrected Dark Gundam is intelligent enough to show respect, as it was only until the final form that it was able to use emotions to strengthen itself.
sheer manlyness and the protective power of the ultimate mustache.
I always figured they were put out in the boondocks with the regular Federation Forces. You wouldn't see them around the Earth Sphere, but perhaps a battlegroup or two would be built around a Pegasus guarding Mars as a deterrent to Axis coming further in system. For all the good that did.
Titans: "Are we the baddies? We don't have a Pegasus and we wear scary black clothing.
2:38 Salami, best nickname for them. Always getting sliced or beamed in half.
Salamis. It's named after the Battle of Salamis, a naval battle fought between the Greek city-states and the Persian Empire. Nothing to do with the food, salami.
@@Tadoka_Inamo Thanks for the into but Its just I like to call them salami. There isn’t any hate or misunderstanding. It’s just I like to call them that.
Let's not forget in char's Counter Attack finale, the Feds deploy tons of GM III to prevent the Axis from plummeting to Earth, with that possibility, that ship could be one that was mobilized to defend the oncoming Axis. Given that Amuro successfully pushed that big dud away, it could have been abandoned given there's a 3 year gap untold between CCA and Unicorn. Feel free to expand the thought, this is just what crossed my mind.
In reality, animators just design the scene without a continuity, unknowingly stirred up tons of fan theories XD
Going with Titans stuff, according to certain places, Captain Synapse was executed for "treason" for disobeying Bask in that final battle. Is there anything that has confirmed that to be true. Also, do you think it was a hidden fact, cause I think almost all the Albion crew (except for maybe Monsha) would be pissed off at that.
AFAIK, this fact originated in the liner notes that came with the laserdisc of ova ep.13.
When I read gundamwiki, it says Synapse commit suicide for reduce Kou's punishment because hijacked GP03. Or maybe that's whas just an coverup by the EF which explain why most of Albion crews joined Titans, and maybe they was "recommended" by Synapse with his life as the exchange, who knows.
I would like to think that the Albion crew wasnt at Operation Maelstrom and got to surrender to the AEUG. Maybe even met Amuro Ray when he went to space.
Question: Why didn't the Earth Alliance continue to make more Archangel assault ships?
I felt that Alexandria is actually a better, more streamlined ship that originated from pegasus design. Pegasus, like the trojan horse has two launch pads, heavy weaponiaries on its sides and complicated body design. Alexandria main launch pad located in the centre, and seems to be far more easily serviceable. The command room also bigger to accommodate more newer equipments and stacked, likely for the same reason.
That last bit was awesome😂
Question: How do pilots control a mobile suit really? I know that most MS cockpits have two levers/sticks similar to the throttle lever we have in airplanes, and they're also equipped with foot-pedals. But how do MS pilots control the roll, the yaw and the axis movement of the MS, not to mention the individual hand or arm movements we see when an MS tries to grab something, etc...
In F91, when Seabook reaches for a beam rifle in the hangar, head mechanic's scolding implies that movements are definitely automated in part once task is determined, but also some degree of manual input is allowed.
General movement would be easy to envision, but more specific limb manipulation would have to be both automated and somehow largely reliable to predict based on crude inputs.
Magic
(Question of week)
Also after Jaburo blowup, the SouthAmerica Front have any other story in Gundam?
In late UC, Jaburo is used as a nuclear storage. MSV-V show Jaburo colors Jamesgund
About when did the Earth Federation change over to using the Clop-Class and the Ra Cailum-Class as the main stay of the fleet as seen in F91 OVA?
I think they already using clop class during char counter attack
@@yoshuasidharta4685 Yeah, but only Lond Bell was using them as main stay warships during CCA. Regular Fed fleets still relied on Salamis Kais.
Maybe after event of Silhouette Formula, Lond Bell disbanded and Clop-class warship chosen as main fleet of EF.
I've always thought that was the Albion. Thanks for clearing that up.
Question of the week (with regards to the model numbers):
RGM-89 is the vanilla Jegan which appeared in CCA, U.C.0093 and 1988 in the real world. RGM-89D is the 'Jegan D Type' or aka 'Jegan Type-D' according to the HGUC box arts that appeared in Gundam Unicorn, U.C.0096 and 2010 in real life. Also in Unicorn, the RGM-89A2 is simply 'Jegan Type-A2', the RGM-89De stands for 'Jegan D Ecoas Type' and the RGM-89S stands for the 'Stark Jegan' and the 'EWAC Jegan' was numbered RGM-89DEW. The 'Jegan Type-D Escort Type' from Gundam Narrative is numbered RGM-89D-ESC.
All that is understandable and reasonable. But when it comes to F91 I got super confused.
According to the PB HGUC box art, 'Jegan A Type' is numbered RGM-89R rather than RGM-89A, which I have absolutely no clue about what the R stands for and why it is not assigned the model number RGM-89A. The same goes for the RGM-89J 'Jegan Normal Type' and the RGM-89M 'Jegan B Type'. The R, the J and the M after Jegan's model number do not make any sense to me and I doubt there is something to do with the order the anime released in real life as well as a reason in the U.C. universe. What is your opinion on this as the expert on the model numbers?
In RGM-89R the R is for high mobility type (like in the High Mobility Zaku) and in RGM-89M M is for missile launcher. They are called A and B because they are the A and B version of the Jegan Normal Type (the J type)
@@gundamfacts Thank you very much for that explanation... My last question is why is the Jegan Normal Type numbered as RGM-89'J'... What is the implication behind J?
@@user-ku6vn4pv3o it's just the sign the Jegan line is aging and over all its years, already spawned many variants covering earlier letters from the Alphabet like:
Jegan A Type (reg Jegan) UC89
Jegan B Type (High Mobility) UC90
Jegan C Type (RGC-90) UC90
Jegan D Type (Unicorn Jegan) UC94
Jegan E Type (ESM Jegan)
Jegan T Type (ground/terrestrial) UC92
Jegan S Type (Stark Jegan) UC94
And so many others
By the UC110's, it already reached the J like in UC94 it reached the D
The amount of slaps in Gundam Zeta is crazy.
(question of the week)
what would be your perfect 3 man mobile suit squad (only one gundam/ one ace custom)
I've already imagined this myself. My team would be The gunner gundam, a gm sniper ii, and a gm command. I hope the gm command counts. I support this though, I would like to see what Kakarot would choose.
@@blackcomet2nd950 yeah it counts only 1 gundam and/or 1 ace custom per squad.
Mine would be GM Sniper Custom, GM Striker, and GM Cold Districts Type. One snipes the troublesome units from afar while optionally carrying a bazooka for some extra artillery, one cuts up enemy suits undeterred by most explosive rounds to an extent, and one sweeps the fodder in the middle between them.
Hah... Salami and Salami Kai. X3
In lore explanation could be that because Pegasus class warships are designed for autonomous operations, and Titans being autocratic, they did not want their captains to have the degree of operational freedom that Pegasus class would bring.
I'm not exactly sure in what forms the Pegasus class allows for autonomous operations other than orbital re entry capability, but whatever it is, assuming that it is notable then this makes sense. Nothing will keep your officers in line if nobody has the capability of stepping out of your tightly controlled logistics.
My wild guess on the "autonomous" aspect is that weapons selection on Pegasus class ships are really lean in a way that truly makes it jack of all trade while being light on logistical needs. For example, none of them are briming with heavy cannons and turrets, but have just a pair of mega particle cannons. They have pretty good carrier capacity and are pretty roomy but are much more survivable than columbus class. So perhaps the ship is just really excellent combination of lean minimal weapon selection that let skilled captains enough tools to pull of daring tricks, but light enough so that it remains light on supply requirement.
Day 39 of asking for gm development history
..salamis? Oh man I'm dying of laughter over here.
Haha I just decided to reorder 0081 after owning it years ago and losing it in a move truly one of the best Gundam games
My favorite
Just an idea about the theory of not using the Pegasus class ship and the Gundam imagery what if the Titans just felt mobile suits would have been to small to really make serve as a symbol and kept the Pegasus class ships either Earth based or well guarded by trusted aces where the threats of capture would have been minimized. There is also the fact that sense a mobile suit would be easier to steal the Titans could explain it away much easier than a ship.
Pegasus-class not abandoned on 0087, as AEUG have Argama, Pegasus III and Nahel Argama as its spiritual successor.
Over the years Gundam type suits were used by Zeon against the Earth Federation. The GP02, Psycho, Moon, Xi, and even the MK II Gundams were all enemy units. Seeing how the idea of a "Gundam" is no longer exclusive then it makes sense why they wouldn't want to link their image to that kind of suit. Their warships, on the other hand, are what lead the charge and deploy the suits. They'd be the first things you're likely to see in major conflict and the warships' designs will have to be easy to identify.
All that said, that's why it makes sense that the Gundam isn't emblematic of the Earth Federation these days.
I mean it's possible that the reentry was partially controlled, and the ship only loosing control after some thruster/control surfaces suffering heat damage during reentry, making it a way softer landing
How did Anaheim Electronics keep getting away with supplying the Federation, Zeon, and later Mafty and not having the Federation shut them down?
Gundam Project was Mark Simmons old Website the official English Gundam expert for Sunrise who was in the Credits of all the recent Gundam series including the new film.
Question of the week:
So the Akatsuki Gundam was developed by using the Strike and its striker pack technology. If that is the case, was the Akatsuki completed before or after the First Bloody Valentine War? And if it was finished before the war, how long did the scientists and engineers have before Orb was destroyed?
Ha Ha Ha!!! Nice! That Drink at The End!
Another Question of the Week:
When you look at an MS design, why are some of the arms swiveled to the side? For instance, the Nu gundam's arms in the illustration show its arms swiveled at a 45 degrees angle. So it shouldn't be able to bend its arms forward at its current configuration.
Question: why do so many UC suits use Greek letters in their name (Zeta Gundam, Delta Gundam, Xi Gundam etc.).
QOTW: Why was it that ZAFT had developed less advanced technology than the Earth Alliance, despite the fact that it was repeated many times throughout the series that Coordinators are far more technologically advanced (and intelligent) than Naturals? When comparing: ZAFT originally developed Mobile Suits and the Neutron Jammer tech. But the Earth Alliance originally developed Phase Shift Armor, Lightwave Barrier, Ablative Gel, Mirage Colloid, Geschmeidig Panzer and Beam Weaponry which all were and looked far more advanced than anything ZAFT developed.
All of that was developed and built by Morgenroete, from Orb. Thus, you can expect coordinators working there.
Also, mobile suits were a more advanced tech than the mobile armors of the Earth Alliance
@@matipxc Actually, if you look at the Gundam wiki, it says who developed them. Everything I listed was developed by the rightful people mentioned. Also, I know Mobile Suits are more advanced. That's why I put it on the list of what ZAFT had over the EA. But the EA had far more stuff.
The original gundams and their prototype technology were developed by morgenroete and rondo family from orb in secrecy even from orb citizens. Also, given that the ginns and cgues have so much more advantage over the moebius and EA's turret and stuff the ZAFTs probably think it is enough firepower to make EA's surrender. Also, remember that ZAFTs has 2 opposition that conflict with one another during this time the clyne faction who wanted negotiation of peace and the zala faction who wants more advanced weaponry that's probably why their weapon development were delayed and they weren't expecting the gundams are much more advanced.
I still think this ship is one of the ones from Solomon that was deliberately dumped there by the feds. Controlled descent perhaps, to make sure it didn't break up before it crash landed in some remote impoverished village, irradiated and stripped of its reactor and sensitive components. Hell, it wouldn't shock me to find out the feds chose that space deliberately, maybe they wanted to force a bunch of Zeon sympathizers out after the war by "accidentally" dumping radioactive material(the ship hull) there, which only made the zeon sympathizers more likely to want to retaliate violently. Take everything away from something, and you don't just leave them with Nothing, you leave them with Nothing left to lose.
( a question that hopefully will be covered in a future question of the week video) What is the most horrifying gundam or gundams during the one year war? What I mean is that given that the gundams during the one year war, they were given the white devil name, so in your opinion, what gundams were the most horrifying or dangerous to go against or be against, thunderbolt and AU UC counts for this question (for me personally I think it’s the full armor gundam from thunderbolt given it’s firepower, speed, and defense, adding io’s sometimes overkill and creative combat style, I think the full armor really earns the white devil name but I would like to hear your opinion on which one was the most horrifying/dangerous)
I always assumed that Amuro's gundam was the most horrifying to go up against since in the original UC we don't know of any other federation pilots besides Heinz Baer who piloted a gundam. Now if we're comparing the Original UC to the Thunderbolt UC then I would say that Io Fleming was more Horrifying simply because of his attitude and desire to kill Daryl in December Sky. However I would like to see Kakarots opinion on this question.
@@blackcomet2nd950 I would say the most terrifying overall is the full armor gundam from thunderbolt with io fleming, since when watching December sky, the gundam at times looked actually villainous and terrifying in action, with io’s brutal fighting style at times, and that the gundam by itself was already very powerful with the amount of weaponry and insane speed and defense it had , so in combination the gundam was given the horror factor that it had in the thunderbolt sector,
And I think it really does earn the white devil name
@@santiagogarcia1606 I completely agree on that.
I have always been wondering how do mobile suits go to space without it being in a ship,being manufactured in space or flying to space
Where you get that jacket it’s dope!
"Upgrading their Salamis into Salami Kais"
Mmmmm... Feddy Salami
Kakarot made story video I click happy!
Titans gave up being an Earthling. They chose to be the aliens. They seem to hate alien, they admire them actually. Their suits look like Alien MSs. While AEUG's mobile suits look like Earthling's mobile suit.
The Pegasus ships were complex ships with a lot complex systems aside from their mobile suit complements. Especially the systems used to re-enter and fly in Earth’s atmosphere. The Salamis and Magellan class ships were not remotely as complex/expensive as the Pegasus class.
Thinking of post-Stardust fleet conditions over half of the fleet disappeared is a flash of nuclear fire. Why produce an incredibly complex ship that really is a specialized combat unit whereas you can build 3-4 Salamis or 2-3 Magellan class ships. Both of which are multi-roll.
What if the Pegasus class that crashed on the mountain was one of the two ships damaged in the nuclear blast at Solomon, was then captured by Zeon forces during the aftermath, the zeon fixed it, tried to escape with the ship are but were attacked by EFSF forces and were forced to crash to earth, the ship was damaged but not enough for it to unable to conduct a proper re-entry, hence the ship then crashed into the mountain
Another thing i've noticed was the bridge is a major hint as well. You can see its shape and how it's different from the Albion.
Good Luck with those model numbers.
Ok gotta ask. What is that last drink in the glass going to be for? I can say without a doubt I would’ve done the same thing
So, since you've done some stuff regarding seed and seed destiny in the past, I have a couple of questions:
1. What was Rey Za Burrell's connection to Rau and Mu?
2. Where was Durandal during the First Bloody Valentine War, and when did he develop his theory - and come to the decision to amass enough political clout to enact it? (That being done through antagonizing the members of Logos enough to kick off the events of the Second Bloody Valentine War and the events that followed the theft of the three prototypes)
1. Rey is a clone of rau who is a clone of mu's father.
2. Durandal is a scientist in the first war who developed and created the drugs used by rau and rey to slow down their rapid aging and deterioration from cloning. He got into power from CE 0072 and I believe destiny plan was developed with rau far before CE 0071 or the events of gundam seed.
@@FN-170 thanks, I was never sure if Rey was an actual clone or not... he seemed to have that connection to Rau and Mu, but I wasn't sure if it was just a random thing that was shoehorned in when destiny started to go downhill.
I would add that one of those two ships could have been damaged enough to make it impossible to reach escape velocity but still retain the enough helm to make a controlled re-entery.
Hello! Any plans on assembling the P-Bandai Qubeley (red box) behind you? Can't see the text from the camera focus, so correct me if I'm wrong please.
EDIT: Wow, dang straight from the bottle lol.
Yo, kakarot, i read a time ago that the wreckage of the zeta gundam was in fact retrieved by the federation after the final battle in zz and also it was repaired then amuro requested its use for cca but was denied, is it true or just a weird fan fiction i just stumbled upon?
The zeta is my fav gundam, my heart got a little cracked when the queen mansa destroyed it :c
Yeah who cares about Albionz you cant eat that. But I do love me some good Salami, does not necessarily need to be kai. Lol just kidding, but still upgrading Salamis in to Salami-kai was chad move ;P Gotta love the ending to this video how he pours a shot and then instead drinks the whole bottle lol.
I want there to be a short ova that follows a federation team on a Pegasus class and stuff happens and it ends with the ship crashing on a mountain and the ova to be called federation snafu.
We can say that the pegasus class were made by anehime.. As far as we can say that . titans aims for more transformable mobile suit. A mobile suit that can travel far away with a small group rather than a plan with battle ship as we had seen zeta gundam the time hyaku shiki try to shut down paptimus with mega bazooka launcher, after that paptimus command the hambarabi team to roll out
I'm joining your Patreon just so you can afford something other than Smirnoff.
I would think the Pegasus-class is like the Nimitz or Gerald R. Ford-class carriers. Rare, but not rare enough because of their cost and strategic importance. Then the cost to maintain a fleet of them after that is too significant compare to other ships like salamis so most are decommissioned. With various variants and different models in the class (like the Spartan in Thunderbolt), it's quite easy to understand why the class is decommissioned only 8 years after the OYW. I mean just look at the class itself and you can see only the first 3 ships have a similar structural design (if I'm not wrong). From the Blanc Rival or the Thoroughbred onward, each ship has a somewhat completely different design. I can't imagine how much of a pain for the logistic corp of the EFF to manage the supply and repair for them. So quite understandable when they say "good riddance" to the Albion.
Speaking of titans when's the next episode of what if the amuro got the alex?
Question:
It has been established throughout the Gundam expanded lore that due to different manufacturers having different standards for equipment, it is near impossible for mobile suits from one faction are unable to properly use weapons from another faction(eg. A GM can't properly use a Zaku's Machine gun. At least, not without potentially losing the targeting system, or being unable to operate properly). This also applies to most other AU series(with notable exceptions for G Gundam and IBO), where you don't usually see a faction's MS use weapons from the enemy(eg. an AEU Enact can't use a Tieren's smoothbore gun, and vice versa).
So how was Waltfield's Gaia(which was implied to be the same one that was used by Stella) able to instantly use the Strike's beam rifle, which uses a different handplug and FCS drivers?
Getting back to the first part of your question, Unicorn addresses this because after a certain point in the UC timeline (probably mid 80's) there is increased standardization because of the monopoly of mobile suit manufacturing by Anaheim Electronics.
Well.... Now that you've covered the Pegasus-class...
What about the Archangel from SEED? After the Dominion they never built any more instead preferring the flying treaty violation that was the Girty Lue. Also wherever the hell did they get that name from?
Seeing this video gave me a suggestion for one I’d really like to see you try:
What would be the in story reason for Domon Kasshu to have never utilized his one off techniques more then the single uses in the story?
Namely his God/Burning Shadow and the God/Burning Slash Typhoon
Also if you ever get the chance I wouldn’t mind your opinion on what where the best non-Shuffle Alliance Gundams from G Gundam as well.
Like a top 5 or 10 video about then and/or a top 5 or 10 worst Gundams from the series
What happen to the crew of the Albion and captain Eiphar Synapse ? Bernard Monsha apparently survived zeta gundam apparently
Not sure if you've already answered this: but How has Anaheim Electronics still remained in business despite being caught multiple times building ms for opposing sides?
AE make really good mobile suits and no faction wants to risk AE exclusively selling to their enemies.
It is like banks lending money to different nations during wartime, they can provide something quick and on demand that no one else can , the countries are more than happy to look the other way. With Anaheim they have the best expertise in mobile suits and the government can look past what they are doing.
I personally thinks it's because AE simply has to much monopoly over ms and weapon development and manufacturing that they either side of the war opposition simply can't immediately cut ties to their supplier. Losing your biggest and fastest weapon supplier would means that they simply admitting defeat.
Man I love the design of the Blanc Rival.
Blanc Rival always to me looks like the odd design out from the Pegasus class. It must be a real pain in the ass to land or dock it properly in port like a colony or on a base somewhere on Earth
Can you do a video about the MSV90? There is barely any information and the Kaiser of Dragon is too cool to be such unknown ship
I have a fun question!
At what point would Amuro still piloting the RX-78-2 meet his match in the UC timeline after the OYW. Here’s the rundown
Amuro with his skill level and new type potential at the final battle of A baoa qu
Using the RX-78-2 with final battle equipment load out, magnetic coating etc.
At what time in later UC would Amuro get shot down easily using the original gundam?
Rx-78 magnetic coating already been surpassed by lots of OYW era MS.
I think a newtype pilot with the same skill or surpass amuro could easily defeat him with GM command
@@trollinoakenshield9822 that’s true for sure the RX-78-2 was outdated even before the end of the OYW. But It’s Amuro that pushes the gundam way beyond its limits. I think that he would get easily shot down sometime near the end of the Gryps war. I think surely Haman karn would beat him easily.
Question: What ship class came between the Argama and Niel Argama? Was the Niel Agama a unique ship?
I bet money the Albion got scrapped immediately following the events of 0083, I mean, they put Captain Synapse to death and buried all the files
What about the fact that Dogosse Giar Class. Like The General Revil is straight up better 48 MS with 4 catapult instead of what 12 or so MS plus another 6 or so Fighters with 2 ms Catapult.
with the spartan being the only custom build ship with extra ms compartment for about dozen in main hangar, And 6 ms with 6 or 4 ball each for support in each of the 4 landing craft totalling 36 ms with 24 to 16 balls also few fighter and flight system.
Anyway what are you're thought on MS carrier in general. I'd like to hear more about the columbus and salamis. Also maybe the zeta to unicorn era carrier.
I'd like to know what the Federation did with the Magellan class ship (I hope I saying that right) after the one year war. Did it get upgraded like the Salamis? Or was it just completely scrapped in favor of the salamis?
@@blackcomet2nd950 upgraded up to 0083 and i think stopped used by gryps war. Even if its cheap, post OYW Frontline is basicly Gone replaced with Guerrilla attack here and there, so i guess they decided high performance Quick reaction force is the way forward.
Look at the Londo bel Carriers small and armed with Very High Spec MS (Lot of custom Build high performance unit in manga and anime. Like the Stark Jegan, Rezels, Delta plus and Jesta for crying out loud).
And by The time of Gryps war everything before that is basicly zeon hunting too, the attack on 0083 probably make the feds realized that mass pro unit and conscript pilot and ship crew isn't what they need against A LOT of OYW Zeon Veteran. The Albion, Spartan Taskforce and Phantom sweep Taskforce also many other Manga related Taskforce are the way forward up to that point, the only exception to the rule is regular patrol unit which is why they build the Hizack and upgrade remaining GM1 into 2 with a hand me down Salamis Carrying them which are Plenty post OYW and 0083 Federation Re-Armanent also magellan isn't build with MS in mind for stuff like Extra Refuel, Re-Arm, And probably basic stuff like pilot living area (drr beds,Briefing and locker room) Since its built Before GM are in the fight.
Here is something I thought about. But I guess solid rounds might as well be burnt up by earth atmosphere but if they didn’t. A single zaku bullet could do a lot.
Hello, I am here to answer one question that's been bugging me a while.
If the RX series' model numbers represents each unit's year of starting development, why is the Gundam Mk. II's model number 178?
Yeah I always thought the Solomon theory was having way too many holes from it being nuked from whatever's left of it not being halted during its travel to Earth by the Federation or salvager's or whatever and of course re-entering the Earth's atmosphere without just blowing up because I highly doubt it's systems to protect it from re-entry still work and of course without it being a miniature space Colony crashing and exploding into a crater in a bunch of Pegasus pieces all over the place when the impacts
Hm, I never thought about where the Pegasus class went in Zeta before. Interesting. You know a question that popped into my mind, maybe you've answered it already, but I can't remember any Federation mobile armors, if you discount the ones that are just mobile suits that transform into flight mode. Did they have any and if not, why?
Also if it was the Albion, the wings getting sheared off by the mountain would've probably made thee surrounding mountain unstable along with much more damage to the hull.
Also what happened to Dorel Ronah after F91?
I didn't know that I really need the answer to this question
The Doggose Giar/General Revil was basically an upgunned and upscaled Pegasus.
What is the purpose of those shields on Pegasus-Class ships?