It's IMPOSSIBLE to Beat This Portal World Record. Here's Why...
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- Опубликовано: 1 сен 2023
- Portal's chamber 14 speedrun is actually unbeatable. Seriously, not clickbait.
►Chamber 14 Speedrun Tutorial: • Portal Chamber 14 Spee...
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Music used (in order):
Celeste Farewell OST - Beyond The Heart
Baba Is You OST - Baba Is You Theme
VA-11 Hall-A OST - Out of Orbit
A Hat in Time OST - Subcon Forest Time Rift
Cave Story 3D OST - Running Hell
Ducktales (NES) - The Moon Theme
Thanks to Sidious for helping with the video creation process.
This video is not an actual speedrun world record, nor a speedrun tutorial. This video is a showcase of a speedrun strategy that goes in-depth to the various tricks, glitches and bugs that make the strategy possible. 
Игры
UPDATE: A change in In-Game timing occurred on the Portal Speedrun leaderboards, so all individual levels are 0.015 slower. This video is still accurate, just the perfect time is now 15.930 instead of 15.915.
cool
ohh, so thats why my time was changed.
now its really impossible to beat 15.915
if your curious about the change, they now include the 0th tick
so it was beatable
MSushi is so good. He can make a 15 minute video about a 15 second speedrun and it’s entertaining and informative
yo if you haven’t yet you should watch the 20 second minecraft tas explained in 20 minutes, a video made by Bismuth
2 second*
@@LinkRammerI guess you didn’t watch the whole video huh
Some how
And takes ages to upload too
i love how confident you sound. it feels like you're setting yourself up to get memed on when this inevitably gets beaten
Seems like it lmao, "screw it, let's say the p-word with full confidence"
i wouldn't say "inevitably" as there's a high chance he's correct, more like "potentially". but yeah if there's ever a route improvement this video will be pretty funny to watch again
@@bluelemon243 this route is far less open to evolution as 00, its literally just holding down a button and jumping at the perfect time, there is pretty much no theorized way to save a shot or somehow get the elevator to go faster. there's a reason it's a 50 way tie.
Maybe we'll have another Haelian moment, who knows. (He said that Unseeded 64 Heat in Hades was nearly impossible and then someone did it literally the next week.)
@@SeriousSam691She only did 51 minutes of attempts, too. Nothing makes a speedrunner say "bet" like being told it's not gonna happen, and I think all the runners who make videos like this are fully aware and just want to nudge the community forward
cant wait to check back in a year and a half for this run to become faster
lmao yeah
by one tick
this video is just gaslighting people to find faster time
By 0.03s
its half a year later, keep waiting
I would actually have loved to see a 0:01 time for this chamber in the challenge maps section.
And then MSushi telling us that it is INDEED IMPOSSIBLE to beat it in 0:00 time since you have to actually do something :)
@@AgentFire0 it always rounds down right? im pretty sure the 15.915 run is a 0:00 run lmao
why
With the seamshot I’m sure it’s possible
@@urmom5835he made it sound on the video like it rounds normally based on being above or below 0.5, not always truncating
13:46
that trigger is a trigger_changelevel in every elevator that has a level transition! normally when the elevator passes a certain node in its path it sends an output to that trigger to load the next map in sequence, but *usually* those triggers have the "Disable Touch" flag set so that's the ONLY way they can be triggered. the dev who made this level forgot to set that flag on the chamber 10 elevator so it can be triggered by touch
why is it in that location rather than out of bounds?
@@globalincident694 thats just where they decided to put it, i guess! it wouldn’t have really mattered much either way. i know valve was using prefabs for the elevator sections to make it easier to just paste them into maps, so they probably just put the trigger inbounds initially and used that prefab for every elevator and just forgot to set the flag on the one on chamber 10.
@@globalincident694 If you put a trigger out of bounds, the map will leak
@@Naleksuh what do you mean by that
@@novelhawk the map gets broken, eg there will be no light
Msushi: No, actually, that would be imposibble. Because Chamber 14 is Portal's Perfect Speedrun.
Entire Portal Speedrun Comunity: Well guys, we know what we are going to be doing today.
Part of me thinks he did that on purpose to goad people into finding it 😆
@@nadeen3157same
MOOOOMMM!! Phineas and Ferb are breaking reality to save milliseconds in a niche Speedrun category
I figured out how to up to ten seconds on this level. I call it splicing
@@nadeen3157 idk abbout you guys but it seemed fairly obvious to me that this is exactly what he was doing
you can tell he is trying to jinx himself SO hard at the end
Never stop saying things like "a better strategy is pretty unlikely to be discovered" please, it makes the moments when those strategies are actually found feel all the more hype.
Just like "it's TAS only"
That might be true at that given moment, but there will be a time where "TAS only" techniques are done by human hands.
"there's no way"
...
"THERE'S WAY"
Ah yes 15min video about 3 second speedrun.
4:50 i love the excited spazzing out. it's a wonderful expression of joy.
even more wonderful is the mouse acceleration (hi imanex)
the way people express excitedness and other emotions in video games is so endearing to me
The thing about speedrunners is that perfection is never enough. No serious dedicated speedrunner who calls him or her self a SPEEDRUNNER has ever said "I'm happy with this time, it cannot be beaten and I know I can't do any better". Every world record brings the question "But can I go faster?"
No one says perfection isn't enough. Perfection is the goal.
This is actually correct, thank you!@@loayzc10
@@loayzc10alas, one of the many plights of human beings.
@@ashleylongley1628 i mean, ent teleport is doable with sv cheats off, so ya can get it faster
Msushi is one of those "click randomly at 3 am" content creators and I love it
wtf...you are not wrong. I've never heard of this Msushi creator and I clicked this video at about 315 am.
Same except it’s 2:40
you see, imagine there is a bus...
This is the most portal thing to ever exist
The most portal thing to ever portal if you will
msushi is the type of guy to make a 15 min video about 1 second (14 secs are not even important) gameplay
bro u litearlly did another comment
@@progaming5555 bro thinks havin 2 comments is illegal
Nice video as always.
You and Kronios were actually one of my main inspirations to pick up Portal again and learn some speedrun strats - I went from being able to beat the game in 45 minutes to being able to beat it in under 30!
a 55 way tie on the same millisecond is insane
Msushi, how do you make the most entertaining and engaging videos about the strangest things? In all honesty great vid man.
This is portal speedrun, you never know what a PERFECT time is. Awesome video btw (as always). So goodluck on making videos and speedrunning. Stay Determined Msushi!
What a great way to make everyone try as hard as possible to beat the record.
Wow this guy justs explains incredibly complicated speedrun strats perfectly
really good video!! you always make bangers :)
I just finished watching the whole video and it's so goated. I love msushi
Ahhh I cry happy tears every time you upload a new video, I love them so much
I love this channel, can't wait for new videos
Always a good day when Msushi explains the wonderful world of Portal speedrunning.
not even tryna get likes it actually makes me cry seeing msushi upload, its such good content
true
You have problems.
I could have sworn the portal fire speed was tied to each portal color separately and you could near instantly fire one after the other. Been years since I played though so I don’t doubt i’m misremembering
Msushi i absolutely love your channel and i also love the portal games. You should try doing a portal stories Mel speedrun. I would absolutely love to watch it!
11:32
Sneaky Msushi in the leaderboards lol
But seriously, thank you Portal youtuber+speedrunners (youtuberunners? speedtubers?) for shining light on these great achievements
Awesome video
I loooooove it when you upload.
The one thing that goes through my mind - I assume it's not faster to jump before entering the first portal, to gain more momentum going into the portal?
I feel kind of silly asking that, because in my mind there is no way something that simple would be overlooked (Or, I just missed the jump to begin with, and it's in there)
But then again, sillier improvements to speedruns have been made in the past, where a casual player asked just the right question
Do you have any examples of casual players doing that? That sounds super interesting. I think the only case i know of is a streamer once discovering a glitch in an older game (metal gear maybe?)
@@nadeen3157 yes, glitches are often discovered by casual players
The main example of someone asking the right question was in Secret of Mana. Specifically, whether it's possible to enter Elinees Forest early from the backside. The Speedrunners knew it was possible, but it was not considered useful because of all the route implications, and it was only barely faster to the next boss, and you skip picking up a character - which makes you actually lose about 30-40 seconds due to the bugged name over the course of the game, and make this riskier. But, it turns out, we never really tried and think it through - and the biggest timesave from implementing it was actually from a somewhat unexpected source
Because we skip picking up a character until way later, running through areas is generally faster, saving a little time everywhere - which turns out, adds up a lot
the speed that you enter the portal doesnt matter, the thing that allows you to go back inbounds with the last shot is called a "PQR" standing for portal quick re-entry, what this does is trigger an unstuck code as soon as the portal on the wall lands, which places you into the bottom of the elevator in a single tick, the only way that you could improve this in theory is somehow shooting faster (not happening), or maybe getting less portal travel time or something, i doubt that anything will ever pop up though.
@@chargus thank you for the explanation :)
@@DonYagamoth oooo thanks for answering! (I'm not sure why youtube sent me this as an email instead of a notification but that's why i didn't respond)
its a good day when Msushi post a video
Nice selection of music
great video!
I’ve never understood how the camera actually works in the oob route until this video. Just having the second camera brought it all together for me.
I wasnt expecting to hear something from the Va-11 hall-a ost in one of your videos
at 13:45, the reason for this debug trigger is that when the elevator is rising it touches this trigger, which will load the next map when the elevator finishes rising. The reason that this trigger can be triggered by a player is because on every other chamber there is a checkbox that makes it so that a player cannot trigger this except on chamber 10
It's a good day to be a chamber 14 IL fan.
I really really enjoyed the Baba Is You background music.
New video ❤❤❤ i am so happy 😁
i read this as "portal's perfect chamber 14 speedrun is PERFECT, here's why"
Interesting stuff! Only thing I can think of is not doing the level as an IL run and bringing something from the previous level to insta-launch you directly into the elevator. That way, you don't need to fire any portals and are not limited to the gun's rate of fire.
Yes to my knowledge the 5:13 TAS does ch14 in the fastest way to beat the map by doing exactly that with a camera.
I wonder how GLaDOS would write this down in her report lol.
"Due to an apparent anomaly with the Aperture Science Handheld Portal Device, the test subject was portaled into the chamber's exit elevator shaft. Test subject shall be praised for completing the test faster than any test subject on record, and shall be rewarded with a complimentary victory candescence."
ok but they also said that max heat Hades was impossible...
I love speedrun history videos. The ones about tomb raider also highly entertaining
I love Msushi AND Chamber 14
do you like fishdicks by chance, rix?
You're perfect
I will gladly take another Msushi video.
The only thing I can think of is using saveloads to skip the cooldown (like how HL21 spams a ton of attacks into Nihilanth in a split second), but IL is single segment (no saves or loads) and I know if that's even a thing in Portal or not.
there are 2 reasons why this wont work
1.) as you mentioned, in an individual level speedrun you are not allowed to load saves, your run must be single segment.
2.) when you save load it adds a 1 second shot cooldown, this also has a side effect of making segmented runs harder, there are ways to circumvent this cooldown to get the normal 0.51s shot delay by dropping a prop
The full spectrum of speedrunning, from DK64 100% to Portal chamber 14.
If there is one thing I've learned over the years, it's that nature abhors an "unbeatable" speedrun.
Msushi: "Chamber 14 is Portal's perfect speedrun"
Speedrunners: "And I took that personally!"
Counting down the days until this video has an update 😂
Next video: Beating the Perfect Portal Speedrun - World Record History of Chamber 14.
When we needed him most, he returned
Watching this after completing portal 2 for the 2nd time really fun still
babe wake up new msushi video
Thanks for the tutorial! I've just managed to do this level in 10 minutes!
LETS GO MORE SUSHI!
This video changed my life
Wow, I had 29:48 time in my portal "speedrun" (lol), and it's just marvelously for me to see the record speedruns.
there is always the option for a glitchless run.
The only way to change this WR seems to be to officially disallow the seam shot portals by saying they are out of bounds. Then the two portal with a hop into the elevator would go back to being the top method until someone could further reduce the movement
I can't wait for this video to age perfectly well!
Hey, I am not a Portal expert but some time ago I heard about a Portal TAS tool, is the chamber perfected even for tas? In the Trackmania TAS comunity there is a ''bruteforce'' system and I heard there is a half life TAS tool inspired by the Trackmania TAS bruteforce. Would it be possible for a Bruteforce TAS to be made in Portal, would that find maybe some unknown strategy, It did on Trackmania.
Funny story, after I found the seamshot route, I tried to make a tas and the tas is somehow 1 tick slower than the wr. I’m not sure why, probably because some unknown demo recording issue or human can somehow trigger the elevator faster. For shooting under the fizzler route, my tas is 8 ticks slower.
For brute forcing, we have a random search tool, but it can only random search on a few variables. The main problem we have is the TAS might not playback consistently. We want to solve this issue first before making an brute force optimizer.
@@evanlin96069That is interesting, is there a portal tas discord? I'd be interested in understanding how it works
Babe wake up, new Msushi video just dropped
Honey wake up new Msushi Portal 2 upload
I hope someone reads this, but if he shot the first portal at the ground instead of the seam. He would go into the portal fast because he has to wait for the bottom portal to open up since it's right below him. So it should be that it starts simple like this. Door open, step forward shoot floor, step forward shoot seam step forward at the same time the edge of the bottom portal opens up. QPR and jump.
the portal gun is capped at shooting once every 0.51s, it also has a 1 second cooldown at the start of the map, each of these portals are buffered which means that they are shot as fast as the game will let you, the last shot (the pqr shot) actually determines when you get into the bottom of the elevator, and since we are shooting all of those literally as fast as the game will let us it cant go faster by switching the portal order.
@@chargus I forgot about that limitation. You are most likely right about this.
I loved this video already; let me explain; I got portal 1 and 2 in the companion collection on Nintendo switch. After beating portal 1 and 2, I was gonna do it again, and co op after with a friend, but all up to 100% completion. But after realizing I beat portal 1 on the wrong account I beat it again on the right account. Then I realized to get 100% I had to get cameras and radios, and I did that non consecutively, so 2 more times I beat it. Then I found out there was secret dialogue in chamber 19, so I beat it again, for the secret dialogue. Then, after beating all modes of all the still alive chambers, I was gonna beat all modes on the particular main story mode chambers. But then I saw that developers commentary existed. I beat portal 1’s main story line 6 times. I know all of the secrets. And I’m a long term msushi subscriber, so I loved how I got what he was talking about instantly. Keep up the good work, man!
Ah finally a portal video
You know now that you made this video someone will find something in the next few weeks on pure coincidence lol.
After all these years he's back
It's usually after videos like this, it brings so much attention to the topic and the 'unbeatable' is beaten.
2:29 I FIGURED THIS OUT WHEN I WAS LIKE TWELVE I FEEL GENIUS
I saw that takodachi at 8:26! You can't fool me!
it's a good day to be an msushi subscriber
I thought I was going crazy when I started hearing Running Hell playing in the background
11:33 I'm in the video!!
If you have two runs where you start the elevator at the exact same time but in one you ride on top of it, does the added height from you on top hit any sort of ending trigger sooner? Or is it just a set time from when you trigger the elevator?
That’s my one thought, cause if there’s a hittable ending trigger *only after* activating the elevator that responds to player collision then there’d be new things to try.
the elevator has to trigger the changelevel after it has reached a certain height, not the player, so this would have no effect
5 months too long without MSushi!!!
perfection
MSUSHI VIDEO!!!!
Its a good day to be an Msushi fan
Question: why couldn't you shoot the first portal on the floor, which should be possible the very tick that the door opens, to shorten the time that the cooldown starts from until the next portal can be shot (through the corner peek)? It would be harder to line up, but it seems like it would mean the portals (and thus the cooldowns) can begin from an earlier time after the level loads by avoiding the time it takes to exit the elevator and crouch.
on any load the game gives you a 1 second shot cooldown, each of the shots in this are buffered, meaning they are shot literally as fast as possible (at 10:16 you can see sidious do this with an input hud on the top left, the game allows you to hold the button and shoot portals as fast as possible)
That music at the start triggered my PTSD.
Alright, I'm just throwing crap at the wall and seeing if it sticks, my idea is that the most likely way to skip an elevator is to find a glitch that allows you to portal up it or clip up into the load zone preferably without an item but if needed it could still be a time save, or hopefully something with the menu, (think of the super meat boy calculation tab glitch) to skip it. I'm sure this idea has already been proposed or proven not to work but still, just wanted to get this out there.
just got the discord noti in the youtube tc 🙏🙏
i love how at 5:12 the client name says, subscribe to msushi
11:35 YOOO COSINE THATS MY FRIEND SHES AWESOME!!!
this one's gonna make you even more toontown famous
12:02 you can use the line of the tiles to compare
I was a bit curious at the beggining, cuz you can jump and crouch before the level loads, but then i remembered, that it's impossible because of the way speedrun starts.
14:57 this will be a very funny soundbite in some future
8:39 the specific seamshot in chamber 14 is not what is shown in the seamshots explained video. if you have watched it (plz watch it), you would know for a seamshot to work it has to be on the boundary between a simple and complex brush. in the chamber 14 seam, it is a boundary between 2 complex brushes, meaning the gap is much, much smaller than a normal seamshot. the seamshot was likely only found by a small bug in the old seamshot finder tool that showed this as a normal seamshot (this bug is still in sar's seamshot finder, mlugg plz fix (just make it highlight the current brush you're looking at like uncrafted's new seamshot finder) also, the chamber 16 oob run is perfect now as well.
i legit did not know how the chamber was meant to be done lol
"Maybe there's a faster route."
Faster than teleporting directly into the ending elevator??
i love portal content lmao
I squealed with joy when I got this notification
I just realized portal is as old as me by a few months
OMG LMAO SO TRUE!
I remember as a kid I couldn’t get to the cube and couldn’t beat the game for years, beat 2nd game the finally came back