@@quiselarnell Well, but the doctors would then have the right to say "We told you, but you didn't listen. You have no one to blame but yourself.". If someone don't think they can be wrong, they'll keep making mistakes and others will be taking hits for him.
This is why I like House MD. Like if it was House he would have straight up told the dad that he should probably save up for funeral expenses for the next few years. Or say that the kid choosing a scholarship over his health will look real nice on his gravestone.
While I see a lot of people getting on the dad's case, I'm actually more upset at the idea that someone on the other team is just playing hockey, maybe knocks into this kid and accidently kills him, not knowing about his condition. Imagine the trauma of killing another human being when all you were doing was playing some hockey. If this kid wants to risk his life, fine, but don't put that emotional damage on someone else.
Very good point I hadn't thought off, it would be horrible for the other player they would naturally blame themselves and be devestated they may never find out that he knew he could die and did it anyway they may spend their whole life blaming themselves.
Yeah, but that risk exists because the dad is trying to force his son into the sport over all else. He doesn’t believe his son could be any less than indestructible, so someone else hurting his son is impossible in his mind
well, thats why they dont allow players to play who've had multiple concussions. In this case, he would never go pro with a diagnosis like that anyways as this would be submitted onto his medical records and every player needs a physical to play sports.
Not the same even remotely, but my kid brother broke a kids leg playing soccer at the start of the season. He felt horrible all season because the teams crossed multiple times. Kid was okay he was a sort of team... trainers not right but mascot is wrong too. He kept coming to games and sat with his team.
I went through this with gymnastics. I had no idea I could do anything else until I had a catastrophic injury from not letting my bones heal . I mentally broke down when it happened and had to start life over as it’s all I knew. I still can’t fully trust my parents And don’t think I ever will. These type of parents make you think it’s what you want by not giving you any other options
Not true; the thing we forget is that love is an emotion. Often times, when parents have regrets, they want to make sure their kids don't suffer the same way. They want better for their kids, happier. So they try to make their kids succeed where they failed, emotionally believing that they are helping their kids. It's love gone wrong. It's why you shouldn't always follow your heart... doesn't mean you don't value it... but you don't give it the driver seat...
A fine example of how a father puts his own frustrated dream in his son, forcing him to put at risk his life because he wanted his son to get that stupid scolarship
I’ve seen this before, not just in sports but in academics too. I’ve seen my classmates swot and push themselves to please their parents at the cost of their emotional well-being and health. I did the same thing but I’m glad my parents didn’t push me to things I don’t like. As a mum myself, I want my son to be successful and not to make the same mistakes I made as a child myself. But I wouldn’t want to project my perceived dreams onto him as he must find his own path in life and his own version of success.
@@vulpixfairy1985Exactly now there is nothing wrong with wanting your kids to be successful but there are some things as a parent you should never do , push them too hard and don’t projected your dreams on them and you certainly do not try to relive your life through your kids cuz not only will it effect they’re physical and emotional health it will drive them away from you
Dreams sometimes have to change, and even the kid didn't seem like this was his dream. But if he gets seriously injured or dies the dad would undoubtedly blame the doctors.
I’d hate to be the father at one of his son’s games, seeing him get hit on the ice rink and collapse. Watching the paramedics go out to him and start chest compressions, then the ambulance shows up. Basically watching his son die right in front of his eyes. And then remembering the one doctor that tried to help by recommending he stop hockey to live.
0:14 The initial belittlement of his son's injury alone could imply that getting his son to the hospital wasn't even his idea. Which means either the mother or his damn team called the first responders.
The mom really should of put her foot down and stood up to her husband. This is their sons life at stake; that's her boy. She spent 9 months carrying him in her womb with love, went through hours of labor to bring him into the world. They spent 17 years raising him to be the best he can be. If that's my child whose developing a health condition that could put him at risk, and the father seems more concerned about the ramifications of quitting sports. Then I'd be fighting like a lioness to protect my son from any further damage even from his own father.
@@Harry-bn5mp It's questionable whether it was the son's full decision or if he was influenced by his father. Especially when father and son worked so closely together. It is not uncommon for the ambitions of the parents, who did not achieve something in their time, to become the children's goal. I can imagine that his father told his son something like "Your condition isn't that bad. That hit will never happen." or "You NEED this scholarship. Without it all your hard work will be for nothing."
She tried. That husband keeps rolling over her.. it can be hard to keep standing up to someone who keeps shutting you down. Of course, some people care more about their men than their kids, too.
It’s not like he’s being abusive or anything and both of the parents raised they’re son which means they have to be a team and right now they’re not because of the father’s selfish ambitions
If I were in the mom’s position, I would’ve really put my foot down and straight up told the father that the life of our child is more important than any scholarship. Money and scholarships come and go, but family is forever. The people we love only come once in a lifetime.
I know a guy who is paralyzed from the waist down from not taking doctors advice and kept on playing football. 2nd game back he got wrecked and never walked again. He goes around to high schools talking to young athletes about the risk of injury and the importance of taking care of yourself and listening to those more knowledgeable than yourself.
Ok....NO. This is poor writing by people who know nothing. Impact events are more dangerous as you grow because your overall mass increases, your size increases, and your resilience levels off. We all see babies plop on the floor...and one in a billion leads to injury of any sort. They are very small, very short, and very pliable. Have a week where a 40 year old randomly falls on the floor and you WILL HAVE INJURIES. Keep that up for 6 months and you'll have broken or fractured bones. Adults are heavy AND tall. This is where kinetic energy, momentum, and torque become important. Impacts between two heavy hockey players has nearly 100 times the energy than the same impact between two 14 year olds. Yet the adults only have 5 times more the capacity to be hit without injury. That disparity is why hockey injuries escalate so significantly stating in high school and peak at the pros. This dude is going to play on one of the best college teams in the US....he's going to receive massive impacts. ITS IS THAT INCREASED ENERGY THAT WILL DROP THOSE ODDS FROM ONE IN A MILLION TO NEARLY A GUARANTEE.
I'm a teacher and unfortunately we see this often. Where I stay the sport in question is Rugby... so it's very hard watching kids get injured all the time and having their parents send them back on the field.
I know people say “When we fall of the horse we get back up”. But still a sport’s just a game. Games like basketball, baseball aren’t violent but still there are other games that you can plan and not end up hospitalize.
Some departments will have a list of local consultants they recommend if you want a second opinion. Mine offered to send the scans etc for them to review to save time.
@@lctamoya Hockey is not a thing in my country, but my cousin loves it and it's always posting status about it, the players are absolutely MASSIVE, I always wonder what people are feeding those kids
What we have here is horrific dad who trying very hard to relive his past glories playing hockey through his son. In other words he is living vicariously through his son. Projecting what he loves and hates onto his son. His mother is no better by just smiling and doing whatever her husband wants. Not even putting her foot down and protecting her son. You would think that as his mother she would advocate for her son's health. Both parents are horrible people who don't care what happens to their son. As long as the son does what they want.
i don't see the mom that way at all. if anything she may very well be trapped in an abusive marriage, she tries to protest but she's so used to being beaten down that it doesn't take much pushback for her to go quiet.
@@dietotaku Plus, the poor son's clearly so used to "yes, dad, no dad, 3 bags full" that he'll agree to whatever just to keep the peace. Then, it becomes 2 against 1.
@@societyisboringGood dads don't risk their kid's health for a sport. My dad played hockey for 40+ years and if any of his kids were at risk of permanent injury or death while playing sports he'd have pulled us out immediately. That's what a real dad does.
Fun fact I just looked up: the actor who played the dad, Lochlyn Munro, actually started acting after a serious injury which caused him to quit professional hockey!! Guess they took inspiration from his story!
A kid that I went to high school who played ice hockey and he had a dad like this. He would dismiss any injury as no big deal, even when it was obvious to anyone that this kid could barely stand up. Eventually this kid wound up with a compound fracture, stemming from a non-hockey event. I did not see it, but I did see him get put in the ambulance and I swear that while his was in obvious pain, he also looked relieved too.
One of my cousins was a very good musician in high school. Played the trumpet. He also wanted to play football. His dad had seen what football did to his baby brother (my dad) and forbade it. Cousin quit playing the trumpet in protest. And eventually wound up being the captain of the varsity volleyball team. A scholarship is pretty useless if you are likely to get injured to keep it , which will cause you to lose it. Think it through, Dad!
@@Harry-bn5mp is it though? In that conversation with the young woman doctor, it sounded to me like he was only doing it because it's what his dad wants him to do and it's what is expected of him since his dad played pro. He might have felt he had little choice. It's like some Asian tiger parents bullying their kids into becoming doctors. I wonder if that's why he asked her if medicine is what she always wanted to do. Perhaps hockey is not what he always wanted to do.
Just read the actor who played the Dad’s bio on IMDb, and he actually played hockey and his career ended because of an injury. I wonder how much of his acting in this episode was inspired by that…
Lochlyn Munro sounded like every hockey dad with dreams of the pros. I say he absorbed a lot from experience. (Dude, is a Canadian and sounded a touch like Don Cherry.)
@@micahfranklin4560 Didn't play sports. He wanted me to do Baseball or Football. But I had a talent for music, not outdoor stuff. My Dad tried because he did those things. But my Mom vetoed him. Saying that not what I wanted to do. Plus, she didn't want me to end up as a vegetable or dead. You do NOT want to mess with my Mom when she makes up her mind. She will bite your head off.
We have a professional Australian Rules footballer here (our football is a hard hitting sport with no padding or helmets where concussions are the most common injury) and at 5'6 he is the smallest player in the league. To keep his mother happy he still wears the rugby style protective headgear he wore as a kid :)
Honestly I have seen guys who look like this even as teens. Often these athletes hit puberty and develop faster than the rest of us, which works to their advantage makes em stronger and bigger faster than us too
Bretts dad reminds me of one of those dads where they are super competitive, overbearing, and downplay their kids injuries even when they are life threatening.
Unfortunately, most times where the parent are like the father here, are not really caring about their child's well being, but their own legacy that is being passed on through the child. Many times where this sort of thing happens, it ends up not being the life the child wants, but what the parents wanted to still have, and thus will risk their child's happiness, wealth, and even health, to keep that feeling alive.
Aftermath; Boy plays for state championship, only to have his career tragically ended in a crippling career ending injury. He loses his scholarship, and is forced to go to a junior college, paralyzed from the chest down. Parents file a lawsuit against the schools for negligence, and lose, and are also ridiculed by the communities, as well as fired from their jobs, and are forced to live in Inner City Housing for the rest of their lives. The Price for Glory!!!
I’ve seen that actor who plays the Dad in quite a few movies twenty years ago when he was much younger. I don’t know his name but his performances were always pretty memorable, especially when playing bad guys. It’s nice to see that he’s still around doing roles such as this.
This is something that happens quite often. The child catches the bug for a sport or career and it becomes part of them, then both parent and child have to either change or not change. I was literally saved by my wife , who fought be with every fiber of her being to get me put of bodybuilding and martial arts , I had a bad liver, a sickness passed through father to son, from Scandinavian genes. It was killing me , yet I pushed knowing full well what was happening, I wanted to fulfill my father's dream and I was doing it, but she stopped me and I'm here today because of it, I can now be a father to my own children and be there for her. I found another way, those who can't compete train others to do so lol. I did change one thing, making sure my kids have their own dreams , not one bodybuilder or martial art among my 7 children, which at first was rough, because I wanted to train them, but they didn't want it, so I didn't push them. That is the first lesson many fathers and mothers must learn, ypur kids are their own people, not just little carbon copies of you, don't be narcissistic, let them follow their own dreams and back them up!
I do believe that teens can be that large. I don't believe they can have such prominent forehead wrinkles as this guy does. Absolutely no resemblance to a teenager
I love how these TV shows with doctors are always trowing away Head and chest scans like they're free, when in reality you'd have to contact your ensurance company to get an OK from them for ANYTHING ...
Nobody wants to see the real version where insurance denies any coverage and then the guy just walks out the door and dies at home cause he doesn't have the money to pay HAHAHAH
Does the father have the same or different condition? I feel that's what they were hinting when he was forgetful, mentioning he's been hit over several years and his hand shaking
That Dr. Choi guy is pretty cool, the kind of person who would be so good at drifting in Tokyo that people would call him the drift king, but that is just hypothetical
I don’t get why med shows always have the parents saying that they want a 2nd opinion, as if it’s some kind of threat. Contrary to popular belief, doctors like it when you want a 2nd opinion because they want you to be as informed as possible. The only way it might be a threat, is if the 2nd doctor’s opinion differs from their own, and only because that might delay you from getting the correct treatment.
Wow wat a father....lives through his son, manipulates him into playing hockey even after the bad news, worries more about scholarships then his own flesh n blood sons life......well...he will hopefully learn the hard way after his son is gone and kicks fhe bucket once he tries playing hockey n gets a hard hit....smh
The mom allowed her son to risk death to please the father.neither one loves the son as more than a status symbol.proof that some people should not have kids.
He says that he’s going to get a second opinion like it’s this incredibly rude thing to do, but getting a second opinion in a massive scenario like this is perfectly reasonable.
"1 in a million hit, can't happen to me. But it can." Those words carry a lot more weight when you consider Choi's background. Choi saw plenty of young men head off to war, convinced they were immortal, that their luck would never run out. For some of them it did.
This is very heartbreaking and realistic. There are a lot of parents who focus more on their children’s future rather than their children’s present lives. There are a lot of parents and adults in general who care more about a child’s future in getting a higher position in their job or getting a lot of awards and recognition, rather than focusing on how the child feels and does and thinks in this current timeline.
It was because of parentS plural just like this we had to disband our local youth hockey league for over ten years. The final straw that caused it well kid survived and is now a mechanic great one too. But the fact he needs knee braces and a cane at sixteen says a lot. It's back but heavily watched. Like players get cps checks monthly watched.
I would never do this if i was a father. Id do everything in my power to make sure my child survived. One saying i will always take with me to the grave is no parent should bury their own child. I still stick by this eventhough im not a parent right now
The sad thing is is there a parents out there just like this they’re more concerned about a scholarship than they are about their own child’s safety. And it’s not just sports. I used to be an EMT and one time we responded to a call for a young woman who apparently suffered some kind of fainting episode. I later on heard through the grapevine that she had basically been pressured by her parents to be top student at her school and she basically spent pretty much every winking moment of her day either studying or Cramming. Literally to the point where she wasn’t even getting proper meals and wasn’t even sleeping all that well. Essentially her parents were forcing her to study study study to the point of life-threatening exhaustion.
I graduated high school with five concussions (thankfully, I never lost consciousness). One from snowboarding and four from soccer goalie. It was me who was insisting that I keep playing but after my last one I had to develop a whole new system to do school work because I couldn't focus for long periods of time (like I used to) and had lingering headaches. I'm older now and can recognize I was definitely pressured into thinking it wasn't a big deal. Especially since I didn't pass out, but after each one, it took longer for the symptoms to go away even if the initial hits weren't as bad. It was the nurse who ran our concussion program that forced me to stop playing (definitely don't fault her and she and I became close after having to see her so often). During my senior year was when they started the concussion program because so many athletes had them, and very few stopped playing after.
Question I’ve got going through my head. If the scholarship, team, coach if any of them learnt of this condition wouldn’t they fire him or withdraw the scholarship because of how high risk his condition is? And is the hospital legally required to inform the scholarship/team coach about this? It’s got me thinking of an episode on tv show Reba when Van got injured and apparently something with his spine would cause a high risk that no team would risk having a player with that medical issue.
they're probably not allowed to tell the school/team directly for medical privacy reasons. the school could require evidence of being cleared to resume play before letting him return, but it would be up to the player to get this from their doctor themselves.
I really hope this wasn’t the last time we see Bret Cooper, someone seriously needs to knock some sense into his father😤 if Bret ends up collapsing in the ring again , it would definately be his fathers fault😡
The camera panned on the doctor and father shaking hands at 3:00. The dads hands trembled just a bit which could have been an indication of Parkinsons. Idk.
Or same diagnosis as his son. Either way could be from something that dad shrugged off as no big deal while he was playing hockey and still has lasting effects
So many parents live through their children and force them in the sports when they have zero chance to be coming a professional athlete that are just ruining their body for their parents entertainment
He's the type of dad that if the kid did die playing hockey, he'd blame the doctor's cause they "didnt do enough to help him"
Exactly
@@quiselarnell Well, but the doctors would then have the right to say "We told you, but you didn't listen. You have no one to blame but yourself.". If someone don't think they can be wrong, they'll keep making mistakes and others will be taking hits for him.
At least the second opinion will make the same conclusion.
This is why I like House MD.
Like if it was House he would have straight up told the dad that he should probably save up for funeral expenses for the next few years.
Or say that the kid choosing a scholarship over his health will look real nice on his gravestone.
well said. house is rude but he saves the patient’s life and i love that! house md was also incredibly interesting
Same. His rudeness is absolutely necessary
Even though he was rude, he said what everyone needed to hear.
Bars
we love house
The fact the father was more worried about a scholarship more than his sons health is outrageous
Not all parents are good sadly
The Scholarship should be the least of his worries
@@micahfranklin4560 yeah like a lawsuit.
Nah it's just asian traits
@@Pootatoe_Editz He doesn't look all that Asian.
While I see a lot of people getting on the dad's case, I'm actually more upset at the idea that someone on the other team is just playing hockey, maybe knocks into this kid and accidently kills him, not knowing about his condition. Imagine the trauma of killing another human being when all you were doing was playing some hockey. If this kid wants to risk his life, fine, but don't put that emotional damage on someone else.
Very good point I hadn't thought off, it would be horrible for the other player they would naturally blame themselves and be devestated they may never find out that he knew he could die and did it anyway they may spend their whole life blaming themselves.
Yeah, but that risk exists because the dad is trying to force his son into the sport over all else. He doesn’t believe his son could be any less than indestructible, so someone else hurting his son is impossible in his mind
well, thats why they dont allow players to play who've had multiple concussions. In this case, he would never go pro with a diagnosis like that anyways as this would be submitted onto his medical records and every player needs a physical to play sports.
See what you mean but don't forget blame the game not the players it's not like the NFL has been sweeping s*** under the rug...
Not the same even remotely, but my kid brother broke a kids leg playing soccer at the start of the season. He felt horrible all season because the teams crossed multiple times. Kid was okay he was a sort of team... trainers not right but mascot is wrong too. He kept coming to games and sat with his team.
The father is living vicariously through his son. Disgusting
It's what their son wants to do. There are people who would rather die than not be able to pursue their one and only true passion.
@@Harry-bn5mp but it's the parents' job to look out for their kids and put their safety first. The dad isn't doing that
I went through this with gymnastics. I had no idea I could do anything else until I had a catastrophic injury from not letting my bones heal . I mentally broke down when it happened and had to start life over as it’s all I knew. I still can’t fully trust my parents And don’t think I ever will. These type of parents make you think it’s what you want by not giving you any other options
@@TruthHurts922 That's horrifying. I'm sorry that happened to you.
Sounds like every hockey parent.
That's not love, that's living vicariously through your child.
Not true; the thing we forget is that love is an emotion. Often times, when parents have regrets, they want to make sure their kids don't suffer the same way. They want better for their kids, happier.
So they try to make their kids succeed where they failed, emotionally believing that they are helping their kids.
It's love gone wrong. It's why you shouldn't always follow your heart... doesn't mean you don't value it... but you don't give it the driver seat...
@@TheDeathmailthis isnt love. this isnt regret. this is his dad forcing power unnecessarily
@@sofiaadams924You don’t think he is being abusive to his wife do you ? I noticed every time she tries to say something he shuts her out
The father was a PRO hockey player.
Plot Twist: The dad goes to New Jersey to get the second opinion, and gets thoroughly insulted.
Shhhhhhhheeeeeeiiiitttt! 😂😂😂 House would take no prisoners.
THE WAY I GOT THE HOUSE REFERENCE
House would ABSOLUTELY insult him 😂. I didn’t know that house was in New Jersey 😅.
@@kayghanvillanueva3154
Now I HAVE to see that.
Good morning C
A fine example of how a father puts his own frustrated dream in his son, forcing him to put at risk his life because he wanted his son to get that stupid scolarship
I agree What kind of father takes a chance on their own sons life
I’ve seen this before, not just in sports but in academics too. I’ve seen my classmates swot and push themselves to please their parents at the cost of their emotional well-being and health. I did the same thing but I’m glad my parents didn’t push me to things I don’t like. As a mum myself, I want my son to be successful and not to make the same mistakes I made as a child myself. But I wouldn’t want to project my perceived dreams onto him as he must find his own path in life and his own version of success.
But it wasn’t a frustrated dream, his father was a pro
@@Sniperboy5551 was but he retired after he suffered an irreversable injure. Then he put his dream of being a great professional and a star
@@vulpixfairy1985Exactly now there is nothing wrong with wanting your kids to be successful but there are some things as a parent you should never do , push them too hard and don’t projected your dreams on them and you certainly do not try to relive your life through your kids cuz not only will it effect they’re physical and emotional health it will drive them away from you
Dreams sometimes have to change, and even the kid didn't seem like this was his dream. But if he gets seriously injured or dies the dad would undoubtedly blame the doctors.
It sounded like dad was pushing him. I mean he barely let son talk and kept telling wife to be quiet
@@samg873 yeah, it seems like the dad was more concerned about his legacy than his son.
@@TheScarletLadle Plus the scouts might not have had to see him play in order to give him the scholarship
@@TheScarletLadle it was difficult to watch. I know it's not real but this stuff does happen
It's what their son wants to do. There are people who would rather die than not be able to pursue their one and only true passion.
I’d hate to be the father at one of his son’s games, seeing him get hit on the ice rink and collapse. Watching the paramedics go out to him and start chest compressions, then the ambulance shows up. Basically watching his son die right in front of his eyes. And then remembering the one doctor that tried to help by recommending he stop hockey to live.
You know what, you're absolutely right. Either way the father's going to hate himself. I'm glad I don't have to make that call.
Probably a divorce on the horizon if that happens
@@joshuahudson2170 He’d probably blame the doctors
@@bre7931 he definitely seems like the type to blame the doctors
Father is stuck in the first stage of grief forever
0:14 The initial belittlement of his son's injury alone could imply that getting his son to the hospital wasn't even his idea. Which means either the mother or his damn team called the first responders.
yea, i thought “kid’s in a neck brace, surrounded my medical professionals, there’s clearly a problem”
Generally speaking yeah it’s the coach or the team trainer who calls for help weather that be the first responders already at the rink or 911
The mom really should of put her foot down and stood up to her husband. This is their sons life at stake; that's her boy. She spent 9 months carrying him in her womb with love, went through hours of labor to bring him into the world. They spent 17 years raising him to be the best he can be. If that's my child whose developing a health condition that could put him at risk, and the father seems more concerned about the ramifications of quitting sports. Then I'd be fighting like a lioness to protect my son from any further damage even from his own father.
It's what their son wants to do. There are people who would rather die than not be able to pursue their one and only true passion.
@@Harry-bn5mp It's questionable whether it was the son's full decision or if he was influenced by his father. Especially when father and son worked so closely together. It is not uncommon for the ambitions of the parents, who did not achieve something in their time, to become the children's goal. I can imagine that his father told his son something like "Your condition isn't that bad. That hit will never happen." or "You NEED this scholarship. Without it all your hard work will be for nothing."
She tried.
That husband keeps rolling over her.. it can be hard to keep standing up to someone who keeps shutting you down.
Of course, some people care more about their men than their kids, too.
It’s not like he’s being abusive or anything and both of the parents raised they’re son which means they have to be a team and right now they’re not because of the father’s selfish ambitions
That's why my kid isn't allowed to play football. 😊
If I were in the mom’s position, I would’ve really put my foot down and straight up told the father that the life of our child is more important than any scholarship. Money and scholarships come and go, but family is forever. The people we love only come once in a lifetime.
Honestly, I'm surprised the son wasn't worried about the scholarship too.
@@grey-spark well, because he's not the one paying, it's the dad
I would protest and tell him I want a divorce, and that I refuse to burry my child, my child is supposed to burry me
I know a guy who is paralyzed from the waist down from not taking doctors advice and kept on playing football. 2nd game back he got wrecked and never walked again. He goes around to high schools talking to young athletes about the risk of injury and the importance of taking care of yourself and listening to those more knowledgeable than yourself.
Dad says "If he's had this his whole life, why is it a problem now?!" because every other time was sheer luck and luck always runs out eventually.
And cause the problems will build up
Ok....NO. This is poor writing by people who know nothing. Impact events are more dangerous as you grow because your overall mass increases, your size increases, and your resilience levels off. We all see babies plop on the floor...and one in a billion leads to injury of any sort. They are very small, very short, and very pliable. Have a week where a 40 year old randomly falls on the floor and you WILL HAVE INJURIES. Keep that up for 6 months and you'll have broken or fractured bones. Adults are heavy AND tall. This is where kinetic energy, momentum, and torque become important. Impacts between two heavy hockey players has nearly 100 times the energy than the same impact between two 14 year olds. Yet the adults only have 5 times more the capacity to be hit without injury. That disparity is why hockey injuries escalate so significantly stating in high school and peak at the pros.
This dude is going to play on one of the best college teams in the US....he's going to receive massive impacts. ITS IS THAT INCREASED ENERGY THAT WILL DROP THOSE ODDS FROM ONE IN A MILLION TO NEARLY A GUARANTEE.
There was a saying I heard once: Nothing so profoundly affects the life of a child so much as the unlived life of the parent.
Anyone notice the father's stuttering, hazy thoughts and then later that shaky handshake. Seems like the aftermath of a concussion.
I think they're indicating that he has CTE.
I think we’ve just realized why the father no longer plays pro. Or then nobody knew who he was. Projecting much?
Ur kids screaming he can't see and ur worried about scholarships
At what part did he claim he couldn't see?
@@CelticRuneSingerat like a minute in dude
@@CelticRuneSingeruh, when his vision blurred?
@@Boypogikami1321:17 “dad I can’t see I can’t see”
@@jameson1239 yes that’s exactly what I’m referring to.
The father will be in for a rude awakening next time when his son doesn’t get up after a hit
Then he’ll up being served with divorce papers
@@micahfranklin4560 and getting his personal info revealed on the Internet
@@rayvega3163You people realize that this is a show, right?
@@debeb5148you do realize this is what happens in real life?
@@debeb5148
You do realise people are allowed to have fun and talk about the show right?
I'm a teacher and unfortunately we see this often. Where I stay the sport in question is Rugby... so it's very hard watching kids get injured all the time and having their parents send them back on the field.
Rugby ! I dated guys with chopped meat shins
Gymnastics, cheer, basketball, and football also come to my mind. Parents and coaches repeatedly put these kids in injured
NZ, Aus or SA?
@@suzannekirkwood6392 SA 🇿🇦
I know people say “When we fall of the horse we get back up”. But still a sport’s just a game. Games like basketball, baseball aren’t violent but still there are other games that you can plan and not end up hospitalize.
To be fair, OF COURSE he should get a second opinion. A diagnosis like that, anybody should get a second opinion, even if they don’t play hockey.
Some departments will have a list of local consultants they recommend if you want a second opinion. Mine offered to send the scans etc for them to review to save time.
Yeah, I'd find a doctor that has the right specialty for hereditary whatchamacallsit and get a consult with them.
You can still make the right choice for the wrong reasons.
The son was doing it for his father not for himself as he didn’t want to seem less in his fathers eyes.
You just explained my life in one sentence
Who knows if he’s a golden child like me
That 17 year old is massive.
😂😂😂he looks like a 30 year old man
I thought he broke Reese back
I was in football country and we have guys who twice his size.
@@elderliddle2733 wow
@@lctamoya Hockey is not a thing in my country, but my cousin loves it and it's always posting status about it, the players are absolutely MASSIVE, I always wonder what people are feeding those kids
Since i was a wrestler, i know how this feels. Its uncanny how comfortable people are with how far they can push there children.
If something happens to that kid, you know the dad is going to sue the hospital saying that they neglected treating his son.
You'd think the dad would be more concerned that his son is 30 years old and still playing high school hockey.
hes 17💀💀
@@urfav._vbplayer the actor is 30💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
😂😂😂😂
Bahahahahaha
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What we have here is horrific dad who trying very hard to relive his past glories playing hockey through his son. In other words he is living vicariously through his son. Projecting what he loves and hates onto his son. His mother is no better by just smiling and doing whatever her husband wants. Not even putting her foot down and protecting her son. You would think that as his mother she would advocate for her son's health. Both parents are horrible people who don't care what happens to their son. As long as the son does what they want.
i don't see the mom that way at all. if anything she may very well be trapped in an abusive marriage, she tries to protest but she's so used to being beaten down that it doesn't take much pushback for her to go quiet.
@@dietotaku Plus, the poor son's clearly so used to "yes, dad, no dad, 3 bags full" that he'll agree to whatever just to keep the peace. Then, it becomes 2 against 1.
Nah, that's how dad's are supposed to be, except you change their accomplishments to your accomplishments.
@@societyisboringGood dads don't risk their kid's health for a sport. My dad played hockey for 40+ years and if any of his kids were at risk of permanent injury or death while playing sports he'd have pulled us out immediately. That's what a real dad does.
Fun fact I just looked up: the actor who played the dad, Lochlyn Munro, actually started acting after a serious injury which caused him to quit professional hockey!! Guess they took inspiration from his story!
A kid that I went to high school who played ice hockey and he had a dad like this. He would dismiss any injury as no big deal, even when it was obvious to anyone that this kid could barely stand up.
Eventually this kid wound up with a compound fracture, stemming from a non-hockey event. I did not see it, but I did see him get put in the ambulance and I swear that while his was in obvious pain, he also looked relieved too.
The father is living vicariously through his son. It's pathetic
It's even more awful that he loves the scholarship more than his son's life
One of my cousins was a very good musician in high school. Played the trumpet. He also wanted to play football. His dad had seen what football did to his baby brother (my dad) and forbade it. Cousin quit playing the trumpet in protest.
And eventually wound up being the captain of the varsity volleyball team.
A scholarship is pretty useless if you are likely to get injured to keep it , which will cause you to lose it. Think it through, Dad!
I really liked watching the kid just… smile and enjoy speaking to Reese. It was nice, seeing him not hung up on how his dad views him
..people like that shouldn’t be parents. You should be supporting your son in that time not pressuring him to do something that could get him KILLED
It's what their son wants to do. There are people who would rather die than not be able to pursue their one and only true passion.
@@Harry-bn5mp is it though? In that conversation with the young woman doctor, it sounded to me like he was only doing it because it's what his dad wants him to do and it's what is expected of him since his dad played pro. He might have felt he had little choice. It's like some Asian tiger parents bullying their kids into becoming doctors. I wonder if that's why he asked her if medicine is what she always wanted to do. Perhaps hockey is not what he always wanted to do.
@@Harry-bn5mphe quite literally said “even if I wanted a different career”
Can we just give his mom a moment of apprecuation
Apprecuation
Why? She was fairly useless.
@@VamLoveAndKisses well she was the only parent that didn't care about him getting a hockey scholarship or whatever
@@bottle3124lol
Just read the actor who played the Dad’s bio on IMDb, and he actually played hockey and his career ended because of an injury. I wonder how much of his acting in this episode was inspired by that…
Lochlyn Munro sounded like every hockey dad with dreams of the pros. I say he absorbed a lot from experience. (Dude, is a Canadian and sounded a touch like Don Cherry.)
So glad my Mom overruled my Dad when he tried to push me into sports. I'd have end up dead otherwise.
What sport did you play ?
@@micahfranklin4560 Didn't play sports. He wanted me to do Baseball or Football. But I had a talent for music, not outdoor stuff.
My Dad tried because he did those things. But my Mom vetoed him. Saying that not what I wanted to do. Plus, she didn't want me to end up as a vegetable or dead.
You do NOT want to mess with my Mom when she makes up her mind. She will bite your head off.
We have a professional Australian Rules footballer here (our football is a hard hitting sport with no padding or helmets where concussions are the most common injury) and at 5'6 he is the smallest player in the league. To keep his mother happy he still wears the rugby style protective headgear he wore as a kid :)
Just by playing sports?
What kind off people are those father?
I don't let my children in danger for a second and those like that one want to risk...
No away
People like that exists sadly, my gf dad is like that too
The absolute lack of care in the father’s expressions is astounding
If a character that is meant to be annoying made you mad, The actor did their job very well
What a bastard. He’s willing to risk his own son’s life.
"You may die, but that's a risk I'm willing to take,"
Their son is the oldest 17 yr old male I've ever seen...
you should check teenage Dwayne Johnson or Mike Tyson or Arnold schwarzenegger
literal 30 year old man lmao
as a high schooler, i know kids like that! some people just grow up crazy fast
This is the perfect of example of trying to live through your child
Who in the world decided this was a 17 yo? The guy looks like he’s at least 25.
He was 30 when he got the part and he looks nothing like a teenager !
fun fact: jason earles, the actor for jackson who played miley’s brother on hannah montana was actually 28 playing a teenager.
Dame ner 30
Lmfaooooo this comment made me laugh more then it should
@@emptyteardropsbut at least he looked like a teenager
Some people don't deserve to be a parent.
Yeah well we can’t pick and choose our parents and we cannot replace them no matter how bad they are
@@micahfranklin4560 yes we can. It's called adoption.
Thats...thats not how adoption works. Parents choose the children.
@@tiffinyhunter5901 I think they mean chosen family, but they could also have a wrong understanding of adoption
It's what their son wants to do. There are people who would rather die than not be able to pursue their one and only true passion.
That boy needs to follow his own path and not living in his father's shadow forever!!....also think about getting a real career.
Looks like a good episode. I love watching these clips. Dr Choi and Dr Charles are my favourites.
Yes!! Choi and Charles were the only two reasons I watched Chicago MED! They had their patient’s safety first and were not ethically reckless!
Could not agree more!!!
Man I love playing hockey don’t get me wrong but if it was MY ACTUAL LIFE on the line, I’d be finding a new hobby in a heartbeat.
Honestly I have seen guys who look like this even as teens. Often these athletes hit puberty and develop faster than the rest of us, which works to their advantage makes em stronger and bigger faster than us too
With the cost of college and parents trying to live their youth through their kids turns this and many other fathers into a scumbag.
Parents in general. Many should not be procreating.
Bretts dad reminds me of one of those dads where they are super competitive, overbearing, and downplay their kids injuries even when they are life threatening.
I hope the young man was able safely play, or to find a profession that didn't put his life at risk and that he loved.
I read that he doubled up on his training and accepted one of many offers to play in professional hockey.
That father was more concerned about the scholarship than his own son is truly despicable
Unfortunately, most times where the parent are like the father here, are not really caring about their child's well being, but their own legacy that is being passed on through the child. Many times where this sort of thing happens, it ends up not being the life the child wants, but what the parents wanted to still have, and thus will risk their child's happiness, wealth, and even health, to keep that feeling alive.
Aftermath;
Boy plays for state championship, only to have his career tragically ended in a crippling career ending injury. He loses his scholarship, and is forced to go to a junior college, paralyzed from the chest down. Parents file a lawsuit against the schools for negligence, and lose, and are also ridiculed by the communities, as well as fired from their jobs, and are forced to live in Inner City Housing for the rest of their lives.
The Price for Glory!!!
Thanks for the fictional update. 👏👏👏👏 🤡
@@Chemical_Recon_M93A1 People would want some closure with a show like this. Frankly, the only closure you’ll get is within a 8x8 room
When he was crying and he said dad I can't see," it reminded me of Mary Ingalls from Little House on the Prarie
i love how obvious it is that the dad suffers from a brain injury.
"How come it's only happening now?"
Funny thing about long term head trauma, it builds
I’ve seen that actor who plays the Dad in quite a few movies twenty years ago when he was much younger.
I don’t know his name but his performances were always pretty memorable, especially when playing bad guys.
It’s nice to see that he’s still around doing roles such as this.
Why is he even called a dad when he doesn’t do the right thing
That’s the problem when your dad acts like your “friend” and not your father…
This is something that happens quite often. The child catches the bug for a sport or career and it becomes part of them, then both parent and child have to either change or not change. I was literally saved by my wife , who fought be with every fiber of her being to get me put of bodybuilding and martial arts , I had a bad liver, a sickness passed through father to son, from Scandinavian genes. It was killing me , yet I pushed knowing full well what was happening, I wanted to fulfill my father's dream and I was doing it, but she stopped me and I'm here today because of it, I can now be a father to my own children and be there for her.
I found another way, those who can't compete train others to do so lol. I did change one thing, making sure my kids have their own dreams , not one bodybuilder or martial art among my 7 children, which at first was rough, because I wanted to train them, but they didn't want it, so I didn't push them. That is the first lesson many fathers and mothers must learn, ypur kids are their own people, not just little carbon copies of you, don't be narcissistic, let them follow their own dreams and back them up!
damn this was very beautiful
damn this was very beautiful
I just can’t get over that they’ve casted this beast of a man as a teenager 😅
I’ve met teens that size.
I meant teenagers look like him, big and bulky and look like a giant. Not all teens are slim or fit.
Well, he played as a hockey player, so...
I do believe that teens can be that large. I don't believe they can have such prominent forehead wrinkles as this guy does. Absolutely no resemblance to a teenager
I love how these TV shows with doctors are always trowing away Head and chest scans like they're free, when in reality
you'd have to contact your ensurance company to get an OK from them for ANYTHING ...
Nobody wants to see the real version where insurance denies any coverage and then the guy just walks out the door and dies at home cause he doesn't have the money to pay HAHAHAH
I loved Dr Reese and I wish she hadn't left the show
Does the father have the same or different condition? I feel that's what they were hinting when he was forgetful, mentioning he's been hit over several years and his hand shaking
Possibly. Maybe that’s why he’s forcing his son into it- he can’t anymore
My sister died from an AVM on her brain stem.
Sorry for your loss.
I'm so sorry. May her memory be a blessing.
I'm sorry
hahahahahaha
So sorry for your loss
Keep it pushin 👊
That Dr. Choi guy is pretty cool, the kind of person who would be so good at drifting in Tokyo that people would call him the drift king, but that is just hypothetical
If anyone remembers Scary Movie you'd understand why the father is acting so macho 😂
Sad there are parents just like this father out there
I don’t get why med shows always have the parents saying that they want a 2nd opinion, as if it’s some kind of threat. Contrary to popular belief, doctors like it when you want a 2nd opinion because they want you to be as informed as possible. The only way it might be a threat, is if the 2nd doctor’s opinion differs from their own, and only because that might delay you from getting the correct treatment.
Wow wat a father....lives through his son, manipulates him into playing hockey even after the bad news, worries more about scholarships then his own flesh n blood sons life......well...he will hopefully learn the hard way after his son is gone and kicks fhe bucket once he tries playing hockey n gets a hard hit....smh
The mom allowed her son to risk death to please the father.neither one loves the son as more than a status symbol.proof that some people should not have kids.
I laugh everytime he flattens Dr.Reese 😂
that is a full grown man
The most unbelievable thing about this is that dude is supposed to be 17 years old.
Right? I couldn't take it seriously he looks almost the same age as his dad 😂
He says that he’s going to get a second opinion like it’s this incredibly rude thing to do, but getting a second opinion in a massive scenario like this is perfectly reasonable.
This is what happens when you live your life through your kids.
"1 in a million hit, can't happen to me. But it can." Those words carry a lot more weight when you consider Choi's background.
Choi saw plenty of young men head off to war, convinced they were immortal, that their luck would never run out.
For some of them it did.
That's the oldest teenager I've ever seen.
This is very heartbreaking and realistic. There are a lot of parents who focus more on their children’s future rather than their children’s present lives. There are a lot of parents and adults in general who care more about a child’s future in getting a higher position in their job or getting a lot of awards and recognition, rather than focusing on how the child feels and does and thinks in this current timeline.
I don’t know what’s worse the father reliving his life through his son or the son being determined to play despite the warning
The way he screamed dad was so gut wrenching
It was because of parentS plural just like this we had to disband our local youth hockey league for over ten years. The final straw that caused it well kid survived and is now a mechanic great one too. But the fact he needs knee braces and a cane at sixteen says a lot. It's back but heavily watched. Like players get cps checks monthly watched.
I honestly wish the son had listened to Dr. Choi. Or that they left us in doubt. I would like that the family would reappear one day in the future.
ER docs would never be the ones to deliver this news hahahhaa real life
I would never do this if i was a father. Id do everything in my power to make sure my child survived. One saying i will always take with me to the grave is no parent should bury their own child. I still stick by this eventhough im not a parent right now
The son looks older than the dad 😂
The sad thing is is there a parents out there just like this they’re more concerned about a scholarship than they are about their own child’s safety. And it’s not just sports.
I used to be an EMT and one time we responded to a call for a young woman who apparently suffered some kind of fainting episode. I later on heard through the grapevine that she had basically been pressured by her parents to be top student at her school and she basically spent pretty much every winking moment of her day either studying or Cramming.
Literally to the point where she wasn’t even getting proper meals and wasn’t even sleeping all that well. Essentially her parents were forcing her to study study study to the point of life-threatening exhaustion.
My favorite part is when he fell on Dr. Reese😂
I graduated high school with five concussions (thankfully, I never lost consciousness). One from snowboarding and four from soccer goalie. It was me who was insisting that I keep playing but after my last one I had to develop a whole new system to do school work because I couldn't focus for long periods of time (like I used to) and had lingering headaches. I'm older now and can recognize I was definitely pressured into thinking it wasn't a big deal. Especially since I didn't pass out, but after each one, it took longer for the symptoms to go away even if the initial hits weren't as bad. It was the nurse who ran our concussion program that forced me to stop playing (definitely don't fault her and she and I became close after having to see her so often). During my senior year was when they started the concussion program because so many athletes had them, and very few stopped playing after.
The boy looks the same age his supposed father XD
He was 28.
Good parenting!! Success often requires risks!!!
17years old? Who would believe that?
When my brother was 17, he was mistaken for a man in his mid 20s. Some young folks just look older (and the actor might be a grown up anyways)
Your life is more important than a scholarship
Question I’ve got going through my head. If the scholarship, team, coach if any of them learnt of this condition wouldn’t they fire him or withdraw the scholarship because of how high risk his condition is?
And is the hospital legally required to inform the scholarship/team coach about this?
It’s got me thinking of an episode on tv show Reba when Van got injured and apparently something with his spine would cause a high risk that no team would risk having a player with that medical issue.
they're probably not allowed to tell the school/team directly for medical privacy reasons. the school could require evidence of being cleared to resume play before letting him return, but it would be up to the player to get this from their doctor themselves.
im sure his dad forbade tha info but not putting the condition onto his form
The shaky handshake made the doctor reevaluate the situation. Props on him.
There should be a law against stupid, greedy fathers!
I really hope this wasn’t the last time we see Bret Cooper, someone seriously needs to knock some sense into his father😤 if Bret ends up collapsing in the ring again , it would definately be his fathers fault😡
The camera panned on the doctor and father shaking hands at 3:00. The dads hands trembled just a bit which could have been an indication of Parkinsons. Idk.
Or same diagnosis as his son. Either way could be from something that dad shrugged off as no big deal while he was playing hockey and still has lasting effects
So many parents live through their children and force them in the sports when they have zero chance to be coming a professional athlete that are just ruining their body for their parents entertainment
The fact the guy playing Jack has the last name Cooper in this and in Riverdale had me on the floor.