a more accurate measure of degradation would have been what you got when you first got the vehicle vs what you get now. the 303 is in optimal conditions from what I hear most people get about 276 out of the 303.
This is a great point and something I should have mentioned in the video. I picked this vehicle up September of 2021, on delivery I documented a 270 mile range at 89% charge; giving me roughly 303 miles of range.
My y performances after 38,000 miles is 255 to 258 max at 100% and 90 percent is 225 to 232 miles. When new it maxed out at 295 miles at 100% and at around 24,000 miles it was at 274 max then Tesla did an update about 2 months later and my range tanked to where it is now. I tried the recalibration a couple of times but no cigar. I still love this car and I get where I have to go with the same number of stops when traveling from Orlando to Miami and Orlando to Atlanta Georgia. I looked at my trip computer and at 10,700 miles my wh/miles average 277 which isn’t bad and my projected range is always 20 to 30 miles higher than the battery display range when traveling in the city going below 50 miles per hour. Great review.
After what I have seen degradation is most for the first 1-2 years with normal driving habits and after that it flattens. Pretty sure it wont have much higher degradation after some more years.
I did, although this would only change the real time range calculator either during a drive or referencing a previous drive. I used the macro calculator on the Home Screen, this only projects range based off of fixed EPA test data, charge habits, and battery health; not individual drive patterns. Although I should have mentioned the temp of the vehicle was roughly 72 degrees when I pulled numbers.
I never got 303... It was always 276 to 280.. also it depends sometimes I charge to 100% it's 280 other times 276.. now 2 years later it's still does the same thing .. last week I took a 200 mile road trip so I full charge to 100% . It's was 279...
@squaredawayeveryday I'm in the process for buying a 2021 Tesla Model Y Performance and the range is 276 for a 99% battery charge. This kinda freaked me out considering the car only has 16.5K miles. What are your thoughts?
If everything is normal its on par with gas power trains. Every 150 to 300 thousand miles. There are people that still drive 500 thousand mile Tesla's. Id say every 10 to 15 years depending on how its driven.
"For AWD vehicles: keep the full charge limit of the battery to under 90% for Daily use. If you need 100% of your battery for a long-distance trip, increase the limit for Trip as needed"
@@squaredawayeverydayinteresting. I got the same car (2022 Shanghai factory) and have taken it back to Tesla 3 times now just to fix the rattles/noises. They seem to be able to offer only short term solutions as the noise is back again now
Yes, Tesla has a warranty for battery degradation. The warranty covers the battery for eight years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, and guarantees that the battery will retain at least 70% of its original capacity. This means that if your battery loses more than 30% of its capacity within the warranty period, Tesla will replace it for free.
I have a Model y Performance delivered Nov 2021 (it' a 2022). It has 17K miles on it. Maybe 12 super charger sessions. Almost always charge at home to 80-85%. I've lost 11% range.
@@ChristopherSamaniego-sg6jn my 2021 y performance with 38,700 miles is between 255 to 260 maximum range now! I charge mostly at home to 90 percent . When new it maxed out at 295 and at around 25,000 miles it was at 274 to 280, then a few months later Tesla did an update and my miles dropped off to where it is now. I tried recalibrating but no cigar.
@@ChristopherSamaniego-sg6jn I also wanted to mention that when I checked my trip stats it shows that I have traveled 10,700 miles with my wh/miles at 277. That number is combined city/highway driving. I mostly do 75 on highway with wh/miles at around 275 to 295 when traveling from Orlando to Miami on a monthly basis and city below 50 miles/hr at 220 to 250 wh/miles all on sport mode. I am thinking that switching to 19 Gemini wheels probably will not make a difference. Thanks for responding.
@@ChristopherSamaniego-sg6jn I bought 19 inch Gemini wheels and tires ( all season )with just 58 miles off of eBay to switch out the expensive tires on the heavy 21 inch Uber turbine wheels. The back tires wore out in 9 months at 22,000 miles and cost me 1100 bucks! I also ordered Uber turbine hubcaps that closely resembles the Uber turbine wheels from Yeslak and they are directional and will fit the Gemini wheels. Hopefully, they will help increase my range. I have seen other people with the y performance having lower wh/mile range averaging 275 wh/miles at 75 miles per hour with the Gemini wheels.
Brant lives in Colorado. He did this test in January. The temp in Denver on average is 28F degrees or -2C then. A tesla was never going to get 303 miles of range in those conditions. I'd say your battery degradation is closer to 3-4%
Lol, it’s Brad actually, I filmed it in February, outside temp was 60, garage temp was roughly 72. Regardless though, the internal computer calculates range based off charging habits/battery health. I wasn’t using the real time trip range calculator, just the macro calculator based on battery health.
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a more accurate measure of degradation would have been what you got when you first got the vehicle vs what you get now. the 303 is in optimal conditions from what I hear most people get about 276 out of the 303.
This is a great point and something I should have mentioned in the video. I picked this vehicle up September of 2021, on delivery I documented a 270 mile range at 89% charge; giving me roughly 303 miles of range.
My y performances after 38,000 miles is 255 to 258 max at 100% and 90 percent is 225 to 232 miles. When new it maxed out at 295 miles at 100% and at around 24,000 miles it was at 274 max then Tesla did an update about 2 months later and my range tanked to where it is now. I tried the recalibration a couple of times but no cigar. I still love this car and I get where I have to go with the same number of stops when traveling from Orlando to Miami and Orlando to Atlanta Georgia. I looked at my trip computer and at 10,700 miles my wh/miles average 277 which isn’t bad and my projected range is always 20 to 30 miles higher than the battery display range when traveling in the city going below 50 miles per hour. Great review.
Does model y performance has bigger battery compared to the LR AWD?
After what I have seen degradation is most for the first 1-2 years with normal driving habits and after that it flattens. Pretty sure it wont have much higher degradation after some more years.
What's the real world range on full charge now? And what was when you first bought it?
6.5 %Degradation. MYP 2022 one year of Ownership. 17k miles.
Started dropping range around 6 months in. I have not tried to rebalance my BMS yet.
didn't you change your tire size? isn't that a consideration with expected range?
I did, although this would only change the real time range calculator either during a drive or referencing a previous drive. I used the macro calculator on the Home Screen, this only projects range based off of fixed EPA test data, charge habits, and battery health; not individual drive patterns. Although I should have mentioned the temp of the vehicle was roughly 72 degrees when I pulled numbers.
Seems the data shows that if you keep it max at 80% you’ll have noticeably less loss over time. Supercharging frequency not so relevant.
I never got 303... It was always 276 to 280.. also it depends sometimes I charge to 100% it's 280 other times 276.. now 2 years later it's still does the same thing .. last week I took a 200 mile road trip so I full charge to 100% . It's was 279...
Gas cars have degredation just as EVs do.
Not sure why this is such a talking point. Its completely normal.
Seems below average. Our 2019 model 3 has -13.8%
@squaredawayeveryday I'm in the process for buying a 2021 Tesla Model Y Performance and the range is 276 for a 99% battery charge. This kinda freaked me out considering the car only has 16.5K miles. What are your thoughts?
How many years or miles before you need to replace the battery?
If everything is normal its on par with gas power trains. Every 150 to 300 thousand miles. There are people that still drive 500 thousand mile Tesla's. Id say every 10 to 15 years depending on how its driven.
thanks. That is good to know.
You have had a car over a year?????? I don’t believe it.
Why are you charing to 90% when manual suggests 80%
"For AWD vehicles: keep the full charge limit of the battery to under 90% for Daily use. If you need 100% of your battery for a long-distance trip, increase the limit for Trip as needed"
@@Chevy2U "under 90%" not at 90%
Do you notice any squeaks and rattles in the interior yet?
I have in other Teslas I’ve owned/own, but not this one.
@@squaredawayeverydayinteresting. I got the same car (2022 Shanghai factory) and have taken it back to Tesla 3 times now just to fix the rattles/noises. They seem to be able to offer only short term solutions as the noise is back again now
Don't baby the battery it has a 10 year 160000 mile warranty!
Uh. No. 8 years.
8 year 120,000 mile whichever comes first
At what percentage of degradation does the warranty kick in?
@@billylumio2810 70%
Yes, Tesla has a warranty for battery degradation. The warranty covers the battery for eight years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, and guarantees that the battery will retain at least 70% of its original capacity. This means that if your battery loses more than 30% of its capacity within the warranty period, Tesla will replace it for free.
I have a Model y Performance delivered Nov 2021 (it' a 2022). It has 17K miles on it. Maybe 12 super charger sessions. Almost always charge at home to 80-85%. I've lost 11% range.
how do you lose 11%?
He probably put it somewhere and couldn't find it.
@@ChristopherSamaniego-sg6jn my 2021 y performance with 38,700 miles is between 255 to 260 maximum range now! I charge mostly at home to 90 percent . When new it maxed out at 295 and at around 25,000 miles it was at 274 to 280, then a few months later Tesla did an update and my miles dropped off to where it is now. I tried recalibrating but no cigar.
@@ChristopherSamaniego-sg6jn I also wanted to mention that when I checked my trip stats it shows that I have traveled 10,700 miles with my wh/miles at 277. That number is combined city/highway driving. I mostly do 75 on highway with wh/miles at around 275 to 295 when traveling from Orlando to Miami on a monthly basis and city below 50 miles/hr at 220 to 250 wh/miles all on sport mode. I am thinking that switching to 19 Gemini wheels probably will not make a difference. Thanks for responding.
@@ChristopherSamaniego-sg6jn I bought 19 inch Gemini wheels and tires ( all season )with just 58 miles off of eBay to switch out the expensive tires on the heavy 21 inch Uber turbine wheels. The back tires wore out in 9 months at 22,000 miles and cost me 1100 bucks! I also ordered Uber turbine hubcaps that closely resembles the Uber turbine wheels from Yeslak and they are directional and will fit the Gemini wheels. Hopefully, they will help increase my range. I have seen other people with the y performance having lower wh/mile range averaging 275 wh/miles at 75 miles per hour with the Gemini wheels.
Brant lives in Colorado. He did this test in January. The temp in Denver on average is 28F degrees or -2C then. A tesla was never going to get 303 miles of range in those conditions. I'd say your battery degradation is closer to 3-4%
Lol, it’s Brad actually, I filmed it in February, outside temp was 60, garage temp was roughly 72. Regardless though, the internal computer calculates range based off charging habits/battery health. I wasn’t using the real time trip range calculator, just the macro calculator based on battery health.
A Tesla never got 303 miles of range in any condition.
@@adan7182 You donkey!
If you have ever owned a new Civic with "40" mpg you will notice a sharp drop after 2 years as much as 25 percent. All cars lose range even gas cars.
Diesel cars increase range after 3-4 years and drop it again after 10 years or so. Not the same as electric.
That number seems pretty high tbh 🥲
8% is really low lol
@@d.524 I thought on average degredation is about 2.3% per year?
@@d.524 Ioniq 5 is typically 1% a year. Hmm..
@@sanaeastern I highly doubt the ionic is 1% a year lol. Even basic iPhones can’t even get that low