Pokemon Theory: How to be EVIL! | Gnoggin
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Pokemon can be dark... but what is the darkest thing you can do? Well it has to do with a pretty messed up pokemon: Hydreigon, and its previous evolutions, Zweilous and Deino.
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Lockstin & Gnoggin yeah I skipped it
i was litoraly thinking about this pokemon yesterday everything you covered in this video was going through my head in bed last night LOL XD
What if both heads become puppets
Lockstin & Gnoggin bro, maybe when Dino evolves the one brain splits in half like in alien hand syndrome and reform when evolving again.
Now what if two heads on hands are swizlna heads since never got long and 3 heard came and since two fought easier controll since other two always fighting.
Well actually, if the consciousness did end up fusing, it would explain why Hydreigon is so mad all the time. It basically hates itself.
That's what I was thinking as well
The ultimate emo.
Note to self and others: Nickname your Hydreigon Amalthus.
Alex Stewart Amalthus? Why?
Because Praetor Amalthus won't fit.
in Germany there we say " wenn zwei sich streiten freut sich der Dritte" which means if two are fighting, the third one benefits. maybe both zweilous heads are dead and the middle hydreigon head is an extra one
Mother of god...
Chinese proverb as well. That's where I thought the theory was going
Media in America does it all the time. Divide and conquer
My theory, before Lockstin explained his, was that the better head ate the other, and grew the two brainless sock-puppet heads to have control over them and have a better way to eat more... But this... This is a really disturbing and really interesting theory. I like it!
Treebol ne I didn’t read so I typed the same thing lol
* Gets everstone out of the bag *
-Well, lil' Deino, this is for your own good.
He'd probably prefer it that way anyways.
Yeah!
Yes so relatable if I did that.
Haaaaaahaaaaahahahahhahahahahahahahhajaha
Ya do that.
if I had a Zweilous, i would've called it, Huey, and Louie!
How about this: Deinos personality splits in two parts when it evolves into Zweilous and becomes one again when it evolves into Hydreigon.
it's sad that this is 2 years old and people just want the dark theory.
@@Blud6966 No, people have said that if the two heads fight, the third head [upon evolution] benefits from the other two to kill both with only just it evolving... Meaning, the third head is now what you have instead of your original Deino and the other 2 are just the remnants of the original Pokémon.
I always thought that the two heads became the arms and that the third head with the brain was just a new Pokemon completely and went on a rampage because it doesn’t know where it is.
I just hope it’s the personalities combining
Because it would mean that at least the original Deinos is somewhat there
Or when deino evolves, two of them live together to assure survival and they split again when it evolves again
Okay, but you know how in the show sometimes Pokemon evolve when they have emotional breakthroughs? What if a Zweilous can only evolve into a Hydreigon when both heads learn to work in harmony? That'd be neat.
mdudegamer yes yes yes
Then a third head takes over and both of the other ones are reduced to sock puppets
Both you and misael beat me to what I was going to put. That's what I always thought and it makes more sense that the hands were it's two previous heads than a random new zombie head popping into existence to become it's second hand.
And THAT'S why its level 64, because it rakes the brains a while to get along!
My thoughts exactly. Deino represents someone with a weak willpower, someone who's easily coerced and/or manipulated - in other words, a doormat. This also explains its blindness, in a way - not only is Deino blind in a literal sense, but it's also blind to its own complicity.
Zweilous represents assertiveness - with its newfound power, it can start to throw its weight around. But this results in a sort of internal conflict, since the Pokemon doesn't know what it should do with the power it wields. You know how sometimes people say, "Part of me wants to hug you, and the other part of me wants to slap you", or something to that effect? Well, it's sort of like that; These two opposing ideologies results in a literal split personality - thus, the second form. Consequently, the second head isn't entirely new, but partially created from the original brain.
Hydreigon represents a sort of epiphany. One of the heads has realized that their constant squabbling is getting them nowhere, and has essentially extended an olive branch to the other head. The head that "eats the most" is the one to grow enough brainpower to come to this realization. And since they reached this realization first, they become the "leader". Once this happens, the two brains are reunited. Through this struggle and eventual compromise, they've both been made stronger, and now combine their efforts towards a common goal of self-improvement. If you'll pardon the pun, they literally "put their heads together".
*Broke:* The dominant head overtakes the other head when they evolve
*Woke:* Because the two heads are so focused on mindlessly eating and fighting to outclass each other, their minds slowly dissapate and become mindless appendages when a third head grows in their final evolution, taking over and lobotomize the both of them.
Holy ****!
Can we get an f in chat for that Doggo which died from freaking GARCHOMP which was one of the pokemon of the year 2020. It doesnt deserve this
@@mrcedes67 Eh..I need context
@@mrcedes67 where is the context mrcedes67?
This theory isn't dark enough. Lets take it a step further: *BOTH* of Zweilous' heads have their think meat reabsorbed by the body, and the new head is a different entity entirely.
Starcat5 pokémon. Hire this man
That's what I was thinking.
"Think meat"
Duuuuuude...... :O
Old topic now, but here's a counter point:
Maybe the eating is actually to store enough energy to grow the third head in the middle.
Instead of being absorbed and vanishing, both sets of brains come together in the new head leaving the shriveled heads as arms.
The dominant part of each brain is then integrated, leaving the Hydraegon less than what it was before the first evolution.
I have an argument. You have a great point but there is another possibility. It is possible that Zweilous' both consciousness finally were able to agree with one another. With friendship and cooperation from the two heads, they get stronger thus evolving. Their consciousness merge and form a new head with both their minds combine. Their old heads become the HyDreigons arms. The dragon-arm-heads don't have brains anymore because they decided to merge and become one
i like that theory
Love it!!
Wow how long did that take you to think of that was awesome! Wait... what if with doudrio the first two heads had lost some of their brains and the result of them losing some of it the parts merged and grew the new head. That is so weird like what if one was adventurous and one was shy would it make the personality of the third half and half?
I'm staying by this theory so I don't feel like garbage for running a Hydreigon in competitive in gen 5.
And Deino's head just copies itself, and forces itself to become better by challenging itself as Zweilous
or maybe a third head spontaneously erupts from the middle and lobotomizes both the figting heads. something like dodrio
When 2 fight, the third benefits
@@dioxoi8369 well, not in the case of parents fighting.
@@gregorymirabella1423 its a reference to a German saying, because this pokemons name is mostly German inspired
Oh whew, it's just Hydreigon. And here I was thinking you were going to talk about paralyzing Spoinks or unshelling Miniors and leaving them fainted, or knocking out wingulls and pelippers out on the open ocean.
Thanks for pokemon murder tips buddy! 😄
Um... didn’t it talk about Hydreigon trying to kill everything? Wouldn’t it make more sense for the two brain’s fusion to cause this chaotic behavior? I know it killed randomly before, but that was due to fear and blindness. Now Hydriegon had eyes. And those forearms had to go somewhere, you really think that a random identical head popped out and the forearms just vanish? No way. I believe that the forearms turn into the side heads, and the brains fuse... oh why am I even commenting something like this. Just to be lost in the comment void.
It is a possibility. But there is also in-game, a Zweilous that is a murder machine to it's core. Well, it's a Hydreigon when you meet it, but Ghetsis' backstory includes when his Zweilous tried to kill him. Now, I wouldn't blame it for any reason (kinda wish it succeeded, and that led to N's start of darkness. Maybe in an alternate reality?), but it fits with Zweilous just being a hate-filled glutton, too.
I actually like your theory better.
rocknrobin25. The Void?
HunterHerne. “I know it killed randomly before, but that was due to fear and blindness.” -Linc Denton
No, you’re actually...5th from the top. Congrats, and there is some logic to your contribution.
I've always seen it's violent nature as something else. Hydreigon is my favorite pokemon, so naturally i did a lot of speculation. It becomes violent because in its first two evolutions it was blind. As a deino it kept bumping into things and getting injured, which memories it retains as a hydreigon. As a zweilous the two heads fight about which one will be the leader. Upon evolving to hydreigon the dominant heads concious takes over the others, and the memories merge back together. It gains sight, and everything is new. The pain it had as deino causes it to think everything is out to hurt it, and it becomes violent out of self defense.
Yea that makes much more sense
Then once it gets comfortable (usually by a caring trainer), it mellows out and becomes super adorable (I had my Hydreigon out on a stroll in the DLC and any time I interacted with it, it would cutely flail about). But then of course, there are the ones that don't care for it (Ghetsis) who will use it as a weapon
@@kizarose5083 mine is is same i love hydreigen alot because let be honest i rather have my hyrdrien not blind so i evolve it anyway
So Hydreigon not only has to process everything they're currently seeing, but also everything they've seen as a Deino and a two-headed Zweilous? No wonder it's always lashing out, it's dealing with sensory overload times three.
I wonder if trainers who have a Hydreigon need to keep them in a low sensory environment or have them wear some kind of special goggles until they can adjust to their new eyes and mellow out. Immediately sending them out to battle after evolving would only make them more stressed and could be seriously dangerous.
@@kizarose5083 hey at least ghetsis puts his hydreigon to a good use of power
This all makes a lot of sense when it’s Ghetsis’s signature Pokémon.
And consider the eye theory aswell, poor deino...
And guess what? Ghetsis’ Hydreigon is the only Pokémon in the entire game who can use the move “Frustration” at its full power. Yep. The move where you have to HATE your trainer to be effective.
I wonder why Cameron from the Pkmn black and white anime got a Hydreigon
@@realzachfluke1 wait, so Ghetsis like, ABUSE and keep feeding the impostor head because he know that the impostor head is a more aggressive and brutal head than the real head, so that the impostor head can grow and became Hydreigon, and keep it's neverending rage and bloodlust, while the real head was left to starve and became a hand? Wow, and I thought Maxie and Archie are evil, Ghetsis is just beyond psychotic
Donny kuswoyo That’s exactly right. Archie and Maxie look like kids who throw toilet paper into people’s trees on Halloween in comparison to Ghetsis. The man was a true psychopath. And if you didn’t notice, every one of Ghetsis’ Pokemon team were chosen to be super effective against one of each of N’s Pokemon team. As in, Ghetsis was planning on backstabbing N from the start. Details like that are what makes Black and White (and their sequels) my favorite Pokémon games of all time. I can only hope that Gamefreak decides to go back to that darker story and tone style again some day.
Naw, the story of the Deino line is tragic and full of murder, but in a different sense. Deino's singular brain is split and grows considerably when becoming Zweilous, and we know these two heads are super competitive with each other. Eventually the two heads combine again into a new brain, which is probably why hydreigon is way way more violent. All that brain matter that was once used between two competing consciousnesses is now all pushed into one brain and one personality, and the process might be messy. But this whole evolution is the tale of little emo kid, who is afraid and scared and lashes out but just ends up hurting itself more. It learns to be angry, and becomes more destructive before eventually developing a hatred for everything that once hurt it so it constantly is violent, enacting a sort of revenge. Basically, don't come to the pokemon academy once deino is level 50.
Jesus Christ...
projection, much?
since one new head popped up to fight with the original, what's to stop a third new head from popping up and taking over?
it seemed kinda obvious to me that the two zweilous heads became the hands, but according to my stepdad and another comment I saw here, it probably has German origins to support this
ein, zwei, and drei are the German words for one, two and three respectively, and there's a saying in German that roughly translates to "if two are fighting, the third is happy"
the third head takes over. makes more sense than a random dead head popping up just for the sake of symmetry
Ok....
Ghetsis?
No one read this comment, edgy 12 year old.
What if the two Zweilous heads become both of Hydreigon’s arms after a random, better third head just comes in and is like, “Step aside fools, I got this,” and replaces them both?
The 2 previous heads would live an even sadder and even edgier existence
@mark mays Plot twist, the third head ISN'T the original deino, but it retains all of it's memories
What if both heads have one half? Left brain, right brain. which would still be cruel yes, but it would still be better.
Hmm... that would explain why they disagree so much. With wildly different means of thinking, of course they would!
Plus, what if the 2 halves become whole as the third head and the 2 former heads becomes it's hands?
That would be better.
Could it live??
THE Berrby
It is possible. However yes, there is a possibility that it would die.
Pokémon was always dark.
It’s just dog fighting but with magic animals.
Sure the Pokémon themselves don’t mind but if you compare it to real Dog Fighting, it’s KINDA dark.
Well in that case boxing or any martial art is just a glorified fight club. I see your point but I like to imagine this as magic monster sparing.
@@ginkowave5829 ah yes you would let a puppy casually walk up to a doberman and let them spar? (when ash uses pikachu it feels like that lmao)
@@xy5449 ah of course I would! just like I would let two grown men or women beat each other up for the sake of fighting and pain! Not because its considered a form of art to an extent or spiritual enlightenment! You're missing the point here...
Or maybe the original brain splits in two, then the opposites hate each other to be edgy, and they realize their differences and become one again??
@@markusnashorn1145 it's never stated that the head is not the original either.
@@markusnashorn1145 i dont think you can consider causing your pokemon to change its personality as "killing"
@@danydady6851
But if you do, that'd mean you kill yourself over and over during your lifetime, not even mentioning the fact that all your cells change every now and then so in the end you are but an imposter of yourself.
Keep telling yourself that.
Just like Reshiram and Zekrom? except they didn't become one again.
Perhaps, the brain splits into two hemispheres during the Zvielos Phase, then fuse back together again. We already know of people who have their hemispheres split, and it is like one side of the body is competing against the other. Perhaps it is like magnemite, magneton, and magnezone. It starts out singular, the plural, then singular again. That's just my theory.
This is actually quite likely, TV Tropes has some explanation here too.
I don't tell sad now
SynergyManetric EX that is exactly what I commented
The Batman sorry I didn't see your comment
SynergyManetric EX it fine nice to see other people think like me although one point you failed to mention is why the two head where competing to get a bigger hemisphere my theory was that sometimes when a Pokémon evolve their personality changes and I think depending on which head had more to eat the final evolution is either more logically based or more creative and artistic
Is there perhaps and instance where you do kill Pokemon?
Yeah, it's a self-imposed rules, Nuzlocke
This was a very dark theory, but a good one. hydreigon is one of my favorite dragon types so that made it better.
Odd-eyes Garchomp too and a Fairy-type can destroy him with 4× damage. He still a great design any one of my favorite from gen 5.
Rosinante Donquixote Regarding trainers, fairy has the creepiest
Parcel Form so true
Odd-eyes Garchomp Which makes the Fairy-type the evilest, imo
Parcel Form ha
How to murder a Pokemon: release an egg before it has hatched.
wow, why didn't I think if that sooner?!
Is that abortion? Kinda?
muhahahahahahaha
I don’t think u can release eggs before you hatch them
To someone Pro-Life (which I am), that is the case.
your theory kind of revolves around the assumption that A: by "leader" they *do* mean full control and not just calling the shots as you put it, and B: that the merging of the two heads is impossible because of the assumption that the two heads are physically impossible of getting along. which i really dont agree on that second part because evolution is about growth, primarily in terms of strength but also in terms of personality, like how a cowardly little wimpod becomes a more confident golisopod, so i dont think its impossible for the two heads to grow to not completely hate each other, and become one being in the process
I like to think that almost all of the time, the two heads are on a really debated discussion and are always trying to be better with the objective to destroy each other, and in the final they both give up at this plan and start to like each other and evolve and fuses its brains to evolve and make everything better and easier, with an objective: Work together to make their trainer proud, or an attempt to kill their trainer because of hate. Also because ghetsis' hydreigon has the move frustration, which gets stronger the more the pokemon hates its trainer. However Ghetsis is specialized in brainwashing people and pokemon, like he did with N. And he could pretty much do that with hydreigon too
@@farofa2843 he cut one of the heads out to make easy the process
Well, if fusing is possible, it would explain why hydreigon is so violant, since it basically hates itself.
Oh right, and there's the fact that the end result is a ruthless monster who slaughters everything in its wake, so you're not only potentially killing your original Deino, but also killing tons more pokemon when it rampages around.
Ironic that Lockstin worries about pronouncing Zweilous wrong when he gets Deino terribly off.
Waddle Derp its day-no correct
Actually it is pronounced dino since that evolution line's names are the first three German numbers. Ein is pronounced I -N not like in. Zwei is pronounced zewhy. And drei is pronounced dry.
Zwei is "zv-eye". German uses a "w" for a "v" sound often.
This is why Hydreigon is my favorite Pokémon. There’s an actual story every time it goes on it’s long journey for evolution. It doesn’t even know its place in the world until after every other Pokémon is on their third stage. So fitting for Ghetsis.
All of what you said should be true... for wild Hydragons. Because, in the wild, food is a constant competition.
Yet, when being cared for by a trainer, this competition shouldn't really exist. Especially if you recognize which head was the original when you evolved it, and you want it to succeed, then as a trainer you would specifically feed that head more, forcing the original head as the leader.
So no, unless you had intentionally ignored the original head, you shouldn't have to murder it, it's your choice as a care taker.
Plus, seeing as how, under a trainer's care, an evolved Deino keeps the same nature throughout, then it's safe to assume that in gamez where you are the good protagonist, you always show the most care to the original head, as in game it's Nature doesn't change when evolved.
What of the plight of the second head, then? You're born as a mere appendage of another person, with whom you cannot coexist, and your master consistently favors this built-in rival over you- culminating in your death for the sake of further empowering said rival.
It's still murder, even if the victim isn't the original. Also, regarding consistency of nature: what if the second brain starts off as a duplicate of the original, sharing personality and memories up to the moment of its creation? I mean, if I were joined at the neck with a copy of myself, I'd most likely freak out and consider them an impostor.
Well damn. That is very dark... but I think your point is proven.
I think they just fuse, and the mutual hatred becomes Hydreigon's destructiveness.
That actually makes some sense.
I think the two zweilous heads are like the two hemispheres of the brain. Research into split brain people has shown that the two halves can have separate personalities. When it evolves, the two halves become one.
Yes, that's what I was thinking
cgp grey?
yes
Same
It makes me happier to think that
* Slaps an everstone on dieno*
"MY LITTLE BUDDY SHALL NEVER DIE B*****"
And on that note i shall remove the everstone on MY zwillous just for fun lol 😂😂😂.
@@thedarkheartgacha1456 You monster
@@ccpwwwe4 thank you! hahaha 😊
@@ccpwwwe4 that's the nicest complement I've received today thank you 😊
@@thedarkheartgacha1456 so you would kill a puppy for amusement
Pokémon tend to just poof into new forms. Perhaps both second stage heads "die" and their combined minds form something new in a fresh head. After all, the final form does have a pretty big...(g)noggin.
Makes me wonder if its overagressive behaviour is the fruit of both minds conflicting with each other but being unable to fight each other to prove dominance
Bipolarmon?
Execution into rebirth.
please don't do that again
Muriuki That was the conclusion I came to when watching this, though I'm not sure how plausible this is (even when excluding the part that this is vidya)
Does that mean there are certain cases where the third head that grows from the evolution could very well for a third conscious and overwrite the previous two?
SoupPlay that's what I think
no because in the final evolution the hands/heads dont have brains
I was thinking the same thing while watching the video, that the new head for Hydreigon becomes the dominate head while the two from the previous form both become the hand puppets.
I agree with this. Is it not possible that neither of the heads in Zweilous have a brain at all? It's stated that Deino is blind and that Zweilous' heads compete with each other to see which will be dominant. But what if its brain is in its body and the two "heads" are just hands? Considering the fact that it is blind, I'd think it's possible that it doesn't even know that the hand it's competing with is its own. It's only when it becomes hydreigon that its actual head sprouts up
Mazera DeVille I didn't think of the brain being in the body, just that the heads lost theirs and the new third head gets the dominate brain or a new brain all together.
Glad I straight up caught a Hydreigon in X and didn't have to evolve a Zweilous.
WHERE?
@@Depressed_Dandelion very late, but there is a spot in victory road where flying Pokemon attack you from the sky. There is a 5% chance that it is a Hydreigon.
I caught a lvl 59 zweilous in the victory road and evolved it.
Well, I'm going to hell....
@@incognitospider-man I have a Lv. 71 Female Hydreigon in ORASDE, had her since she was just a Deino. But that didn't stop 10 year old me... I just decidedly wanted to evolve her immediately... without thinking.
@@incognitospider-man I'm going to worse than the Netherworld. I'm going to Purgatory!
What if there is some Jekyll and Hyde style procedure happening from Deino to Zweilous? It doesn't make sense for the pokémon to sprout a new consciousness so the Deino's brain could divide into two upon evolving so each brain has a different and contrasting personality which would explain the fighting and lust for control. This could also allow for both to rejoin each other into Hydreigon after accepting its differing personality and reach its true power. But I'm just looking to save my cute Deino's soul
3:02 translation
Narrator: our little friend Deino
Deino : I am
Narrator: yes Deino you’re our friend
Deino : oh
;o;
You pronounced Zweilous right but pronounced Deino wrong *Insert Palpatine saying "Ironic"*
And Hydreigon. He did good, outside of Deino.
No, he was right
Rootbeerguy690 - A RUclips Commenter
No, he didn't. It's "die-no" not "dee-no" the German word for "one" is "ein" and is pronounced how it looks.
Oh, I misread what Hunter said apparently. I thought he meant that Gnoggin also mispronounced Hydreigon and I was correcting him.
“Oh crap.”
“The fans found out.”
*”Deino.”*
I mean, I love Hydreigon for just how much of a monster it is, I guess I'm fine with this, haha. Really cool theory and something interesting I never considered...
We need to remember this is the same pokedex that tells use that gardivoirs make black holes
c'mON MAN WHY YOU GOTTA DO ME LIKE THAT!
MY FAVORITE PSEUDO-LEGEND!
AND I'VE RAISED A BUNCH OF THEM TO HYDREIGON!
OH GOD WHAT HAVE I BEEN DOING
MURDERER!
Honestly if you want to avoid this process, you could put a fancy collar on the original head at stage 1, so you know which head is the original during stage 2, then get out some hardcore muzzles and weld its mouth shut. This'll guarantee you never lose your little Dino to a parasite's shenanigans.
It may be a traumatic and horror-movie style short life for the second head, though.
I’m a murderer to.
I kill ants and roaches
I take it with a grain of salut because of how make i take it that hydragon three head all have brains because they all eat curry when camp with you in gen 8
Alright, so hypothetically speaking, what would happen if both heads are fed the same amount, assuming that you can make sure that neither head takes the other's food? What would happen then? What sort of evolution would that result in?
...Assuming that a Hydreigon's mind isn't just the two minds fused together, which would explain their more violent nature, as neither mind would be in total control, thus leaving Hydreigon body to run on pure instincts as the two minds battle, possibly only recognizing the trainer's orders, since that's something both minds know and recognize as friendly?
I'm gonna say you get two half-braindead heads and a sock puppet. So you either kill one of two heads, or condemn both to be very, very slow for the rest of their life.
Then it based on the brain that work the most. Believe it or not thinking make you brain smarter and biger
Something analogous to Hitmontop would happen. You just can't see that it did happen. Maybe wild Hydreigons have only one brain (a new one, or one of the old ones) but I like to think that mine - the Hitmontop, so to speak - has all three. The two old equals in the hands, and a new regulator - the new head.
the other half of the situations ain't much better either, IMagine spawning into existence only to have to compete all the time, and then when you loose you just never get the chance to be in control of your own body, your mere existence was super meaningless, then when you evolve into Hydreigon the original won and you seized to exist. No matter which head wins it goes super dark
My personal theory is that while the two Zweilous heads are eating as much as they can, they are actually unknowingly fueling a third, latent consciousness that finally usurps those original heads when Zweilous evolves. The two, originally competing heads' neurons are completely overtaken and the third consciousness, fueled by that sheer amount of food, develops into a fully-developed and ravenous Hydreigon head that takes its proper place between its two, essentially zombified siblings.
You know, when this video started, the dialogue was leading me to believe the topic would be "Breejects". Pokémon, typically still at level 1 and newly hatched, who had been bred to contain superior IVs, Nature, Ability, and Moves, but they don't perfectly meet one or more of these requirements so they are released into the wild. If the Pokémon is also being bred to be shiny, then this process can take exponentially longer, leading to hundreds of newly hatched Pokémon that will never be trained by their hatcher and probably released immediately. Sure, for the most part, these "baby" Pokémon (not sure on the ruling of a level 1 Kangaskhan, for example) would still have, in general, a vastly superior movepool, special ability, and better physical potential than nearly every wild Pokémon just on average. However, these Pokémon are freshly hatched, level 1, and in many cases, most likely not in an area that would be considered a natural habitat both by species AND by natural wild level. The Pokémon Snorlax, for example, while it does have a baby form, is most easily hatched directly as a Snorlax due to an item requirement while breeding that only makes nature and stat breeding more difficult if used. A Snorlax, not being native to Unova, for example, can still be bred in their daycare. What would happen if suddenly 100 Snorlax were released into the wild of Unova? This is a Pokémon that only eats and sleeps, it would promptly consume everything in the area until satisfied, go to sleep, and do it all over again until something stopped it. The scariest part is that the daycare in Unova is in the lowest level area of any breeding daycare in any game, if I recall correctly, so having several hundreds, dozens, or even a single genetically superior (though possibly in some few ways competitively inferior) Snorlax could completely dominate its surroundings. On top of that, being an invasive species with no natural predators, any non-native Breeject could potentially explode in population and totally snuff out the natural wildlife. Once again thinking of Unova (since it's the easiest target for this, thanks to both the low wild level Pokémon near the daycare, and the extremely limited regional Pokedex that basically canonically neglects about 6/7ths of the entire Pokedex), the 3 useless starter knockoff monkeys, sage, pour, and sear, are all relatively inferior type-swapped versions of the Chimchar family in respects to simian design, stat distribution, movepool, and abilities. What would happen if several hundred genetically superior Chimchar were suddenly thrust into an environment that supports the growth of strong and fast little monkeys so much that the region has 3 types of them? Chimchar would thrive, ESPECIALLY if the Breejects in question were being bred to contain the move Thunderpunch. Suddenly any competition with the other monkeys is no contest, Chimchar would win consistently and only become stronger and faster in doing so. And since the Unovan monkeys are stone evolutions, they are not as easy to evolve as Chimchar and Monferno that evolve purely through levelling up, so eventually the power creep would overwhelm the 3 useless monkeys of Unova. And don't say these numbers are an exaggeration, I personally have over 800 Pumpkaboo and never even got my shiny, so I ultimately gave up. If it had been any other Pokémon I would have released them all, but since they are Pumpkaboos I just Wonder Trade a ton of them on Halloween with the message "Happy Halloween". But the point is, Breejects seems like a way more devastating concept. You can even turn it to a genocide argument depending on which daycare and which species of Pokémon is being released, and even on which specific PC is used to release them to determine what wild Pokémon are nearby (Suddenly 1000 wild level 1 Cleffas are released near Victory Road and just completely slaughtered by the wild Durants, for example).
Tldr, cut it down to one paragraph next time pls
Plus, level one Pokémon are almost helpless.
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tldr; breedjects could end up being invasive species that would destroy the surrounding ecosystem
"You think this entire box worth of Aerodactyl, Carvahna, and Scyther that I just dumped into the middle of route 1 is going to negatively affect the ecosystem around? Nah..."
Deino, Zweilous and Hydreigon are pronounced the same way you pronounce German "eins, zwei, drei" ("one two three"). One head, two heads, and a hydra dragon with three heads. So, not "dee-no" but "die-no".
Also I was also thinking... Separation of Zygarde. Even the game warns you that separation means you lose "everything about it!" The nature, the ribbons, everything.
funny how they are called kapuno duodino and trikephalo in german
I always thought there brains move into one and grow a bigger head to fit the new bigger brain but leaves the old heads to remind what it was like to be far apart
What if both zweillous heads become the puppets? I always thought Deino’s evolution was just trying to compromise its apparent urge to battle and destroy (as we see in hydreigon) and its love for the trainer. I also thought the hydreigon was just deciding to use the trainer’s love as fuel for the fire, and came to a compromise.
I agree!
Only problem with this...hydreigon is a DARK type.. nothing good there.
God dammit man, I'm literally leveling up a Zweilous right now...
Then again, I released about a dozen freshly hatched Deinos in the process of getting the one I wanted, so I'm pretty sure I already threw ethics out the window.
I'm imagining a horde of Deinos stumbling around Heahea City now.
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Do people really release freshly hatched Pokemon? I sell them on the black market I mean put them on the gts
You also kill your paras when you're evolving it into a parasect. So I have your PKMN-murder right since gen 1.
Actually what if you cut the mushrooms before he evolve?
Deino - like "dino" from dinosaur, and also including the German "ein" for "one", which make the rest obvious. At least you said Zweilous and Hydreigon right. ;) ☆
Cyreus except he didn't with zweilous. He even showed it on screen, the correct way, but kept making a "z" sound instead of a "ts" sound. But hey it's not something he needs to lose too much sleep about. He did his best.
who said either of the heads provide the final brain?
Yep
What if an invisible Mr. mime controls the third head and also the body of Wobbufet in attempts to create the ultimate puppet army?
Mega Mr. Mime for Gen VIII: it's now dressed as a circus ringmaster with a waxy moustache. It could have an auto-Substitute ability where it summons Wobbuffet - this activates every other turn, but it has next-to-no bulk or defences as a trade-off. Does that sound ridiculous?
I like your thinking El Barno What if it's weakness is Pokemon used by cops? lol :P
Noooooo
I have a theory of my own. Hydreigon has two lines on its head. its is very noticeable. so I think that those lines are forms when the two heads combine together to form one single head. That might be a possibility
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Hes eating the touched spaghett
Plot hole: the brains are combined according to your pokedex entry
Counterpoint - It still would effectively kill a conciousness
even so it's two heads that don't get along well with eachother so fusing the two seems horrible enough
But they are 'evolving' so can simply presume they are evolving past their previous quarrels.
Plothole: Philosophy would like to disagree.
Never trust the Pokedex for anything. Take a look at this: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Professor_Westwood_V
"Professor Westwood admitted to Ash later in the episode, though, that he made up some of the information in the Pokédex. Westwood doesn't travel much, and merely relies on reports for his Pokédex data."
I'm well aware that the games and the anime aren't the exact same thing, but despite that, if one of them claims something and the other says nothing that necessarily contradicts it, then...
That's sad.. so a zweilous' head's entire existence is a frantic battle to outdo the other head so they don't die.
What if the original brain splits in two upon evolution the right and left hemispheres and they argue because one side sees things logically whilst the other is more artsy and creative that is why they argue then upon further evolution they join together again and they try to get their part of the brain bigger so that the final evolution will be logical or creative so there only is ever one brain that also explains why the other two heads have no brain
The Batman Sorry for being 3 months late, but this actually kind of fits with BW's theme of truth and ideals.
The Batman I like this theory
Yes! I think that would actually make a lot more sense!
It does make sense, but się you have it to make it just one sentence, Batman?
But where does the third head come from?
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love the fire emblem reference! :D
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Ayyyy
I like how it’s so dark then suddenly it’s all happy when the sponsor comes
HERES A NICER THOUGHT. They don't get along because of the fact the second fake head knows it screwd in the end when it evolves.
HERES A JUST AS DARK THEORY. Both heads get screwd and the hydragon center heads a new one.
Wrath Milten the possible outcomes are #1 the leader head becomes the only consciousness and the lingering hatred left in the evolution from the removed consciousness causes the remaining consciousness to become extremely violent #2 both the previous consciousnesses are removed and a new consciousness that is extremely violent due to the lingering hatred is created #3 the two consciousnesses merge to create a unstable extremely violent single consciousness.
I love how you pronounced Zweilous correctly but Deino wrong
Because zweilous looks more foreign
Personally, I think it's near impossible for the second head to take control. The original head has 64 levels of experience at the time of evolution, while the second head has only 14 levels, meaning it's almost guaranteed that the original takes over.
I’m not sure that this is entirely true. It is still one Pokémon so it just would make sense for one deino to split in two and phase back together when becoming a hydreigon. Great theory tho
go on a wild spree of it?
lockstin youre poking the wrong beast my friend
_dont tempt me_
Magolor is perfect for that statement! lol
Yes! That's how you've murdered pokemon.
Oh! And when a Spoink is knocked out it's heart stops! I forgot!
And transporting Pokémon into the PC kills them and creates exact clones out of data with the same memories. It's how teleportation works: if you turn something into energy, it dies. Even if you re-build it and it's exactly the same, the original is still dead and what you have is a clone. This is the exact reason why real scientists don't want to experiment with teleportation.
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Well I've never caught a Deeno anyway, just a Deino, so I'm good. But in all honesty, I think Deino evolving the first time is a symbol of internal conflict and that the two heads both originally share elements of the consciousness of the original Deino like its conscious split apart, and evolving a second time represents Zweilas' two heads having made up and agreeing to join and work together.
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I have a different theory: I always thought that the heads merged, but after being so hostile to one another and developing disparate personalities this forced merging of brain tissue and consciousness drove it insane, explaining why Hydreigon is so vicious: its mind is filled with two chaotic and conflicting consciousnesses, so it is driven by rage and territoriality.
To further this theory, as you've said yourself in other videos, Dex entries seem to apply more to wild Pokemon than trained ones. My theory is that the player character is aware of what happens when wild Deino and Zweilous evolve and wants to circumvent that. So how do they do it? By taking the time to properly care for, feed, and mentally prepare their Pokemon for the evolution and mind merge. This is backed up by both the ridiculously high levels these dragons evolve at and the fact that your Hydreigon seems calm when compared to its Pokedex description; it enjoys being hand-fed and pet by its trainer. Breaking it down by Pokemon:
Deino takes so long to evolve because the trainer is working to build up a bond with it in order for Deino to trust it during the Zweilous phase. This is likely done through getting the dragon used to your scent, training it out of attacking on contact, and properly feeding and caring for it. When it finally trusts you (level 48) your character feels confident enough to evolve it.
As a Zweilous, the groundwork laid as a Deino starts to pay off. Since you got it to trust you as a Deino, you can use this bond to get the heads to work together rather than compete, syncing their minds and better preparing them for the inevitable mind merge. By coordinating rather than competing, the heads can develop a sense of camaraderie, allowing them to be more effective.
Hydreigon: thanks to your patience, once Zweilpus evolves the mind merge (while still a shock) does not break its mind, instead you have a loyal, relatively well-adjusted companion that is not driven by mindless, maddening rage, but a proper partner. This fits in much better with the theme of Pokemon and the player characters caring for them.
This also explains Ghetsis' "underleveled" Hydreigon. Lacking your character's empathy and caring nature, he'd just want to evolve his as soon as physically possible, disregarding the Pokemon's mental health. Thus he wouldn't go through all the tedious prep work as detailed above and would get the final stage sooner, at the cost of its sanity (which is backed up by his Hydreigon's max-power Frustration).
While watching the video, I came up with a different hypothesis. What if it's a metaphor for development and self-realisation.
Deino is the insecure, unrealised child, thus being blind.
Zweilous is the inner struggle as it tries to realise its place, thus sporting two opposing heads symbolising identity confusionon. This could also fit with whatever head eating the most being the dominant one, as whatever identity is "feed" the most becomes the dominant one.
Hydreigon would then be the fully realised and matured Pokémon, having found its place in the world and thus not being blind anymore further more having one mind.
This hypothesis isn't really totally thought through or anything, just an idea that I think generally fits the data, but I haven't really sad down with all the pieces, just came up with it after watching the video. I'm open to any feedback that might support, improve, or oppose the idea
Me: sees the title of this video
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Reminds me of the TV show "League of Super Evil" which was an acronym for "LOSE" because they always failed to be evil.
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It’s actually likely that the heads are just deino’s left and right brain hemispheres, and that would make them not get along, and then they merge back together when they reach their final form.
Jokes on you!
I never raised one
Cinnamon Roll same
Another option: maybe the third head that pops when evolving for the second time is Hydreigon's consciousness - born of chaos, conflict and pain - and the Zweilous' pair of heads become the puppets. Just imagine: the original deino head, first is blind and hurts itself, then has to battle for dominance over its own body (which may not even be able to keep), finally becoming a puppet no matter what. Now, that's dark.
I realise this video is two years old, but I’d like to share my opinion.
I feel that Zweilous evolving into Hydreigon is more the two heads accepting one another and, as of their choice, combining into one consciousness. With the damage inflicted to the original Deino and the anger directed to one another as Zweilous heads, Hydreigon now channels that anger towards anything that could hurt it, whilst retaining the appetites of both the Zweilous heads.
Y’know-
There’s also the consideration that NEITHER head becomes dominant, and an all new head pops out, killing both heads in the process.
Yeah that makes it darker-
Well, there's a fifty/fifty chance your original Deino stays in control into Hydreigon.
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I just want to say, the little roaring Deino that is wagging it’s tail like a happy puppy is the cutest thing I’ve ever seen
Incredible theory, very well together, but what if instead of Deino sprouting just a second head for Zweilous, what if its head and brain were split in two and made into separate brains, and so they don't get along because of the differences between the left and right sides of the brain, and so when evolving again, they do merge back into the original brain, and possibly the fact that now these two differing personalities are even closer, within the same skull as each other, that helps lead to the brutal nature of Hydreigon, simply lashing out at the world, because it's two halves are in an eternal struggle until the pokémon finally passed away
what if zweilous heads are the two sides of deino´s personality and there is no original head, like that old story about the two wolves representing good and evil, and fighting for control, with the victor being the one that you decide to feed?
And they're put back together again when they evolve into Hydreigon! :3
Fact about me: used to think hydreigon was creepy (not anymore ) so i never evolved it and i always kept it as a deino in black
So it was Zweilous that toucha my spaget.
Maybe when Deino evolves it brain splits in half which form the 2 heads of Zweilous, and when it evolves into Hydreigon both brains leave the Zweilous heads and become the third head and the Zweilous heads become Hydreigons hands.
I’ll just assume my superior deino eventually became my Hydreigon’s brain and forget this, especially since it still has the full 5 hearts.
my theory was always that because the two consciousnesses didn’t get along, eventually they were forced to merge into one head and brain. the torture of half of your own mind being taken by someone you hate causes the hydreigon to be constantly on edge and hateful towards the rest of the world, for not having to go through the same pain. it uses all its power that you trained it into having into pure destruction
Soooo, my Zweilous eats others treiner's pokemon to evolve?
Cool
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I like to think that Deinos personality splits into two parts when it evolves into zweilous. But when zweilous evolves, the original deino head is the one in the middle because deinos personality rejoins again and the 2 remaining heads from zweilous are used as hands.
Funny thing is, I’ve never used a Hydragon.
Atelier God same
And now I will never use one.
i never use one either, so we're good
same
Where can you find a deino
There should be a pokemon game based in Africa and the main basis is about animal conservation and poaching. That allows players to choose which part they will take part in. With a game mechanic that allows players to breed and add wild pokemon to the reservation. The ability to attacking and defending said reservation. Among other things like poahing pokemon for cash and and catching pokemon in the wild for the reservation or poaching. Idk what are your ideas...
Mizplaced Diety sounds like an idea for a new ranger game
Mizplaced Diety I'd love that
Agreed, I wish we can tell Pokemon company or something
Don't think peta would be impressed
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But the whole point is that you can choose to be evil and kill Pokemon and make them suffer or you can choose to save Pokemon and make them happy.
If I was in PETA I would be really excited about a game like this because it shows that you can choose what actions you take and whether you'll harm animals or help them.
Please no, this is my favourite Pokémon and I always fantasies about having and raising a Deino all the way to its final form and now I have to think about this
Never know the new head may actually be the dominant head and in which case you killed both heads on the zweilous
This is why you always keep Deinos as just pets. But then again this is the same person who ditches their Treecko for an Aron as soon as I enter Granite Cave.
Nothing wrong with that.
Its Vairen why would you abandon Treecko?! And why for an Aron? Why not raise both?
+Anthony Naranjo too much trouble.
Andre Ware, that’s a terrible reason!
+Anthony Naranjo It is good enough.
Zweilous is pronounced tsvi-lous
The “ts“ is very important...
Trust me, I‘m from Austria
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How to be evil
Step one: start game
Step two: be human
Shadow Viper 3112 sounds legit lol
I trained that Pokemon... oh no, what have I done! 😱
Raised a monster (a pocket monster)
I raised it as well. I thought it was cool :)
Blues Brother: Best of LPM Don't worry; this theory isn't true. The Pokedex is filled with lies.
However, it does explain why it has the Dark Type, rather than just being a rage filled glutton.
Maybe Deino's head splits and then fuses again. Maybe, Deino is just a caterpillar and Hydreigon is the "butterfly". Zweilous is the pupal state, but instead of being a cocoon, it's a two headed monster that eats and eats and eats...
Or maybe... Deino's brain goes inside his body and Zweillous's heads have no brains at all! Zweillous is a zombie! And Hydreigon's head "regains" Deino's brain (full of nutrients) and the heads become hands.
Everything is possible and weird in the Pokemon universe.
Better yet, who takes all the pokemon you defeated in the wild to the pokemon center? No one. You just beat the crap out of them and leave them there...and they die.
I get my pokemon killed all the time, in wedlockes
For all we know it could be worse, the two heads before could have been made the brainless hands while the main head is a brand new one, meaning the strong bond you made with the first head, and what would probably be less of a strong bond but a bond none the less with the second head is now completely gone as both are no longer there and have been reduced to nothing but hands used to eat.
maybe when it evolves a thrird head grow and the 2 old heads become puppets
You missed out on the opportunity to say PokéMurder.
...What if the THIRD head is the impostor?!
Both heads are lobotomized and used as hands for the newest consciousness.
You mean what if both consciousnesses of the second form disappear and the new head is an entirely new consciousness? So the two heads on the hands are the two heads from the previous form?
Huh. Something to think about here
But what does that mean for pmd hydreighon of it started off as a deino
Narrahian Each of the heads could be the Hydreigon, but only one of the three.
Life is cruel
I have a feeling that the first head is the one that ends up staying. It has already had life experience enough, and understands how to survive better.
I think halving 2 heads when your a teen is a bad idea to stay alive.