Good review and great riding spot (and riding). Honesty about its limitations is definitely appreciated too. I'm surprised at that price and only a 34, which as you say is a bit weedy for what this bike encourages. But did that 4650 include taxes etc.? I'm not sure whether they have started factoring that into their prices yet. I'd save on the groupset and add a 36. I built a really nice setup with the 36 and Float X2 which came in at 3473, but would be 4650 with VAT and duty if those aren't included in their current prices. Droppers aren't standard either with Propain. Canyon, Bird and even GG are looking like they might be a little bit better value, especially the Spectral CF, and Canyon include taxes/duty in their prices. Interesting about the sizing too. I'm 5'11 so right between sizes. At your height 6'2" it seems like your size choice was a little clearer, but wondering how you found going for the smaller of the two sizes available to your height? Crunching the numbers I'm thinking I'd go with the L.
Great review Loam Wolf!!!! Thank you for sharing this Propain, cant wait till i can see one in the stores...in person is always nice. I always bring a towel for the drool factor...i remember Propain saying they were coming to the US, when is that again?
Hi! Any another bike around 130 50 climb 50 descend with the better dh posibilities and lighter than the propane? (I think its around 13.7kg, im looking something more next to 13 or under) Transition Spur will be ok in the trails of this video? I live in a rocky area and not sure of its capable like the propane, Tallboy or Revel Rascal for example. (Yeti 130 i think its even heavier than this) Thanks!
I'm starting to lose my frame of reference with so many long travel bikes with massive wheelbases and slack HTA being called playful, nimble and agile. And some short (travel) and small wheeled bikes being called stable and composed. Can we have some objective competitive comparisons between different style bikes? For example: which bike you can bunnyhop highest on, crush a rockgarden fastest on, make it through a tight slalom section fastest on, manages to get furthest on a slight uphill rhythm section without a chain installed, which is the highest drop/huck you're willing to take per bike etc? All things you can actually measure. Take bikes out of different categories or, if you wanna go radical, make this a standard part of every bike review. I'm lost.
Hugene is a slightly more capable bike but not quite as “sharp” as the Izzo. I’d take the Hugene for slightly more aggressive duties and the Izzo as a full on rocket ship. I’m 189cm and tested both in XL. Would have happily ridden the larges too for a more agile ride.
I have this bike and it’s very quiet! Don’t take any notice of the Enduromag review. It’s a fantastic bike , I don’t want a heavy plush enduro bike so this was the perfect solution. Nice video 👍
It isn't an ultra quiet bike - the frame is quite hollow and any rattling cables, chainslap outwith the intended parts on the protector and debris hitting the downtube did make some noise. Mostly things that can be improved by some attention paid with a zip tie or some foam here and there, as Anders mentioned!
The hub is very quiet compared to other bikes I have tried, and the cables don't slap around much, but when something does cause the frame to reverberate it makes a fairly loud metallic clanging noise, which was disconcerting at first.
@@TheLoamWolf Thanks I'm 5'10 = 177.8 cm and I've been thinking to go for L size. If I find reach to long for me I get shorter stem and higher rise handlebar....is this good idea? I'm right in between the sizes...help please
@@medivoadmin it will all depend on your most frequently ridden trails and your preference for stability or control/agility, but it sounds like a reasonable idea for sure.
That mid-air crank spin was sick
Great review looks like a really killer trail bike thanks a lot keep them coming guys love what you’re doing from central Illinois USA
Thanks for the love Troy!
Awesome review! Very spot on, good to understand and to relate in the real world.
Much appreciated!
Nice review I am thinking about buying this bike
Was going to get the Tyee CF but decided to get an ebike, still tempted to replace my normal bike with a Propain.
Certainly not a bad addition to the stable!
Good review and great riding spot (and riding). Honesty about its limitations is definitely appreciated too.
I'm surprised at that price and only a 34, which as you say is a bit weedy for what this bike encourages. But did that 4650 include taxes etc.? I'm not sure whether they have started factoring that into their prices yet. I'd save on the groupset and add a 36. I built a really nice setup with the 36 and Float X2 which came in at 3473, but would be 4650 with VAT and duty if those aren't included in their current prices. Droppers aren't standard either with Propain. Canyon, Bird and even GG are looking like they might be a little bit better value, especially the Spectral CF, and Canyon include taxes/duty in their prices.
Interesting about the sizing too. I'm 5'11 so right between sizes. At your height 6'2" it seems like your size choice was a little clearer, but wondering how you found going for the smaller of the two sizes available to your height? Crunching the numbers I'm thinking I'd go with the L.
it´s of course with taxes included!
Great review Loam Wolf!!!! Thank you for sharing this Propain, cant wait till i can see one in the stores...in person is always nice. I always bring a towel for the drool factor...i remember Propain saying they were coming to the US, when is that again?
Propain launched the U.S site last month at Sea Otter, if I remember correctly. They just have limited offerings at the moment.
Solid Review
Seem to be a future
I've got one of these on order and your initial review makes me even more excited to get on the bike. How tall are you?
Hey Taran, Robert here. I'm 6'2" but with a preference for bikes in the 475-490mm reach range to suit my active riding style.
@@TheLoamWolf I'm 5'8" which is exactly between S and M. I do not feel I have long legs. What would your opinion on sizing?
Looks like Heartbreak Ridge in Ballater...
You know your ridge lines!
Great video guys 👊
Thank you Will!
I wanted to buy this backordered beauty. Couldn’t wait that long so I went with the Canfield Tilt.
Where are you from? I ordered one about a week ago from the U.S. distributor and it's getting here in a few days.
@@taranclammer4886 Phoenix. I ordered mine back in July.
@@TNW84 I guess they must have just happened to have the speck level, color, and size that I wanted.
@@taranclammer4886 Cool. I ordered frame-only.
When is it review time?
Hi! Any another bike around 130 50 climb 50 descend with the better dh posibilities and lighter than the propane? (I think its around 13.7kg, im looking something more next to 13 or under)
Transition Spur will be ok in the trails of this video? I live in a rocky area and not sure of its capable like the propane, Tallboy or Revel Rascal for example.
(Yeti 130 i think its even heavier than this)
Thanks!
How does this compare with the Trail 429?
Yo where's the part where you dissect it?
Part 2. Scalpels and all
How tall are you buddy?
Propaim has rather long chainstays, wonder how agile they really are?
To me, "ample space for a big water bottle" means it can easily fit a 30oz, but you have what appears to be a 15oz. Can it even fit a 25oz?
I'm starting to lose my frame of reference with so many long travel bikes with massive wheelbases and slack HTA being called playful, nimble and agile. And some short (travel) and small wheeled bikes being called stable and composed.
Can we have some objective competitive comparisons between different style bikes? For example: which bike you can bunnyhop highest on, crush a rockgarden fastest on, make it through a tight slalom section fastest on, manages to get furthest on a slight uphill rhythm section without a chain installed, which is the highest drop/huck you're willing to take per bike etc? All things you can actually measure.
Take bikes out of different categories or, if you wanna go radical, make this a standard part of every bike review.
I'm lost.
Thanks for the suggestion and you have some great points! We will bring some of these topics up in more future reviews.
How does it compare to the yt izzo that you also reviewed recently?
And how tall are you? I’m 1,88 thinking about getting L or XL…
Hugene is a slightly more capable bike but not quite as “sharp” as the Izzo. I’d take the Hugene for slightly more aggressive duties and the Izzo as a full on rocket ship. I’m 189cm and tested both in XL. Would have happily ridden the larges too for a more agile ride.
@@TheLoamWolf thanks a lot for your quick answer. Seems that the difference overall are not huge!?
i've heard that the bike is quite noisy. How was your feeling about it?
I have this bike and it’s very quiet! Don’t take any notice of the Enduromag review. It’s a fantastic bike , I don’t want a heavy plush enduro bike so this was the perfect solution. Nice video 👍
I got my Hugene in july, it runs really quiet in my opinion. Just use a cable tie around the rubber grommets so they dont slide.
It isn't an ultra quiet bike - the frame is quite hollow and any rattling cables, chainslap outwith the intended parts on the protector and debris hitting the downtube did make some noise. Mostly things that can be improved by some attention paid with a zip tie or some foam here and there, as Anders mentioned!
The hub is very quiet compared to other bikes I have tried, and the cables don't slap around much, but when something does cause the frame to reverberate it makes a fairly loud metallic clanging noise, which was disconcerting at first.
Hi. What size is you bike and how tall are you??
Hiya! 6'2" on a size Large - I often size down to obtain a more direct response to my weight transfer on the trail. Could certainly be on the XL.
@@TheLoamWolf Thanks
I'm 5'10 = 177.8 cm and I've been thinking to go for L size. If I find reach to long for me I get shorter stem and higher rise handlebar....is this good idea?
I'm right in between the sizes...help please
@@medivoadmin it will all depend on your most frequently ridden trails and your preference for stability or control/agility, but it sounds like a reasonable idea for sure.
@@medivoadmin I am 178 cm tall. I purchased a medium and am thinking about shortening the stem to 35mm.
@@taranclammer4886 heh...I just ordered L black spindrift....
What does jibs mean?Not a term we hear on the UK..unless you're in a boat 😅
It's a term out of the cool kids, "50 to 01" kind of scene - imagine riding mountain bikes in a bmx style!
Lol you're clearly not a snowboarder. Means to do little side hits and pop around on the trail. I'm in Scotland and it's definitely a term I know.