Don't want to rub it in but bought a new Tyee CF back in the summer with nearly identical geo to the spindrift but a 170/160 setup. Rockshock lyric ultimate/ super deluxe ultimate coil, carbon bars/ cranks, Gx drivetrain, stans flow wheelset and code rsc's for £4200, absolute barging for one hell of a rig!! Fair play Propain! 👏👏Sounds like they need to sort it out in the US.
@@DmitryBaryshnikov So you live in the Netherlands, don't you think you'll be a bit overbiked on the trails here? I live in the Netherlands too and am debating what kind of bike I should get. What kind of riding will you use it for, just park or are you planning on using it on the more mellow trails as well? I'd love to buy a beast of a bike like this but I want to be able to use it on local everyday riding as well. Do you have any opinions on big travel bikes in Holland?
I have my spindrift CF since 3. of Nov. and I am very Happy, even with a much lower Budget. Payed arround 3.6k Euros. It climbs so well for a bike with that much of travel. Even though I picked the larger size (XL at 1,88m), it's super playfull and easy to handle! And daaamn, the carbon raw looks soo sick!
@@joemido100 Klingt vernünftig, wobei ich da echt ins grübeln gekommen wäre nicht doch ein paar Euro mehr für den Ultimate Coil zu investieren. So wie man hört soll der ja sogar besser sein als die von Fox.
@@Endurophin Bike ist genial, das Capra fährt sich auch geil, zumindest bergab. Finde es einfach von der Geo her nicht soo geeignet als "All-For-One" Bike, da man im Uphill schon merklich mehr ackern muss. Aber ja, geiles Bike, so oder so! Und zum Dämpfer: Die fehlende Druckstufenverstellung kann defintiv ein Spaßkiller sein. Aktuell ist es so, dass sich der Hinterbau genau so fährt, wie ich es mir gewünscht habe. Hätte kein Lockout gebraucht, wippt auch so nicht. Und ja, nachrüsten geht immer. War bei mir einfach so ein Budget ding. Die Select+ Variante der Gabel habe ich gewählt, weil sie einfach die 2.1 Kartusche hat und Durckstufenverstellung. Bei Dämpfer war dann die Kohle weg :D
I have one of these in the mullet setup and if you are a dh/enduro rider that can only afford the one bike get this. Pedals unbelievably well, super playful can take on any trail proven by it being ridden at rampage and look beautiful, i recommend chrome decals with any colour as they are actually more reflective than i thought and basically become whatever colour reflects off it so you can really confuse ur mates with photos
For me it was between this one and Canyon Torque, but with Canyon's shoddy quality control and higher price for the same components( and the fact you can't pick them yourself) makes the Propain the winner here.
There was another review that suggested the 29 frame option with a 27.5 rear would be the best config. I think i’ll get this set-up for rough park days. Will make it that little bit more slacker and rail the corners 👌
@@dimitrithomas yes, I too wish they reviewed that option. Or actually, I would like a bike switchable between 79 and 29 just with a flip chip. I’m patiently waiting...
How do you manage to talk about the component spec of this bike without mentioning, that you get to choose EVERY SINGLE PART besides the bottom bracket?
I think they didn’t really mention it because they specifically reviewed the Highend version of the Spindrift. But in my opinion the customization is one of the biggest advantages of propain. If you don’t need the Carbon wheels and the XO1 AXS drivetrain, you can get the Spindrift with Factory Suspension for about 4500€
@@Philipp-ke2tb You're right. Can get a full fox factory build with 3900 Euros if you opt for a GX drivetrain and standard alloy rims. Now that is amazing value, especially considering endless combinations of components you can personally choose, so basically a custom build from the frame at a much cheaper price.
@@ianw3811 Yeah the value is really good. I just ordered my Tyee last week with full Factory Suspension, GX drivetrain, Code RSC brakes and BikeYoke dropper and paid 4500€. A Specalized or Trek with this configuration would easily cost 1500€ more.
I think the most interesting highlight is that you can choose almost every component you want in their configurator, so you can choose where u want to spend money, for example u can choose a cheap curcuit but a good suspension. Although u can select a 190mm fork in front
@@Trihannes Yeah that's pretty cool. I ordered a Tyee with an aluminium frame but with the fox factory suspension. Propain is the only manufacturer I know that are having such a good configurator
@@Endurophin they have more options that few people care to change and less options that actually matter. I'd much rather be able to customise my drivetrain the way you can on Propain than choose my headset spacers and stem cap like on Last.
@@vidieitis You're right about the drivetrain but with any other part they are on par or better than Propain, atleast that's my opinion. Last Bikes are a bit more expansive though.
It's a great frame. Got the 27.5 alu frame since I don't like carbon and I honestly sometimes wonder about some of mikes comments. I run a 210mm dropper with room for even more at a size L frame. I'm182cm tall.. Never felt the seat tube was too long. The bike is made to work with 190mm fork too, so slap on a zeb 190mm and you have 0.5 slacker HTA. Something Mike did not mention. You can also run a full on DH fork on this frame. The al frame is very sturdy and quite stiff but also very heavy. As always it's a compromise.
@@nejcbesal1578 downsides? Seems to eat frame bearings. It has very high leverage ratio, so it can be quite hard on the shocks. Upsides? All the rest. I think it's a great freeride bike. It's not meant to be an enduro bike I think, but it does lift days very well, as well as jump lines and whatever you throw at it. The bike is bomb proof, and it can hold up to a season of very hard riding no problems, where all carbon frames I have had start creaking and show signs of not really liking the hammering after half a season.
@@TeamCykelhold Thanks for the advice. How hard is it to climbe since it is a very heavy bike? I usually go to bike park without the lift, can you ride it on steep uphil...?
@@FreerideQuebec I'm very late about this but I read the thread the other guy is referencing. Propain got back to the poster in the forum to say they misunderstood the reply from their tech department and it is possible and will not impede the warranty. If you're still interested in it, write the propain support yourself. They replied to me within an hour.
@@RiversideM As of now Propain are not available in my country, I know they're working on it but it might take a while...or I'll pay crazy amount of fees to import it :/
i almost purchased a propain bike last year. I remember it was a big year because they finally shipped review samples out to companies rather than relying on owners to review. In the end I purchased a Trek, i wanted to see what Propain would do with the spindrift - but it took too long. Great review as always
Oh man i really should not spend so much money for a new bike as a student but i want it so bad. Will probably visit Propain personally in a few month, when the circumstances with corona are more chill. I live not far away from Propain - Bikes and hope for a good deal there... probably connections to they´re teamriders will help
@@Dini2kMTB I ordered it with the cheaper rockshox zeb 180mm as I think it would be the easiest fork to sell on.. never tried the zeb but I didn't get on with the longer travel lyric when I tried them.. been riding fox with a while now and I like the more linear feel of them. And more importantly it suits the black and orange colour scheme 😁
Have you gone mullet out of the box or 29 and will convert to mullet? Read a review that suggested the longer chainstay of the 29er with 27.5 rear was the best combo. Makes it that little bit slacker too
@@ritchiephillips5084 mullet out of the box, I currently have the older 27.5 spindrift. And first thing I noticed was how short the rear is.. makes it very poppy and nimble for such a long travel bike. So I'm hoping the new bike feels the same only with the larger front wheel for ploughing over stuff. If I lived somewhere with bigger mountains I could understand why people want longer slacker bikes, but where I live has a mix of techy and dh so I feel the spindrift is a great all-rounder. With the 190mm dual crown fork It should sit at 64° head angle.and I could always drop the stansions in the triple clamps if I want to raise the front end and make it slacker if I head to the Alps or something.(or put the 200mm air shaft back in)🤔
In case you haven't bought anything, the clash is a very linear bike which is strange being that it's a freeride bike, you'll definitely need a megneg or float shox to make it feel more lively, and the WTB wheels that were on the entry level bike are garbage like you literally rip them apart whitin 3 weeks of riding, also my frame cracked with only 5 months of use, I really like commencal V3 DH but the clash isnt being the greateste bike for me so far
@@mafs1996 Well, meanwhile I bought it, but not the entry level bike so my tires are still on and it feels great for me. Sorry to hear that your frame broke, I'm riding my Clash for 7 month now, nothing happend. It safed my day in Leogang when the circuit on my DH bike broke 😂👍
just got the 27.5 i am 6'1'' wear 32 inseam pants. I got a 180mm one up dropper, and its raised up about 1 inch from bottom and the stock saddle has high rails. i disagree with the seat tube being tall.
How is it for doubling rollers and popping off of rocks because I like riding big freeride stuff but I also like more mellow flowy stuff and I don't want to feel completely suspensioned out on that
In fact: it wouldn't fit. I can definitely confirm that with regard to the 185 Bikeyoke Revive dropper on my L-size: Even if the seat tube was 2 cm longer, the minimum insertion depth would not change. For few of us with short legs the seat tube length of these bikes might be an issue, but for the vast majority, especially the ones using dropper posts longer than 15cm, imho it will not.
I'm confused on the dropper size, I ordered a spindrift few weeks back but without the dropper, propains charts says I need a 125 in a large frame as I have short legs. I've never owned a dropper so not sure if it would be too low for climbing
i find many reviews that dont explain the relationship between stem length and fork offset. "this bike handles really well" is all good, but things change from 44mm to 37mm fork offset, and 35 to 50mm stem length. what were you running? somewhat related, i have a hugene with a 150/42mm offset fork and a 40mm stem. i also have a Tyee with a 170/37mm offset fork, and a 35mm stem. the latter bike was done so that i have the most sensitive steering at very high speed. it's kinda twitchy on slow uphill sludges, but that's not the sole reason why i purchased it, anyway.
Good review! Considering that Propain also has the Tyee, I don't understand why they haven't went slacker with the Spindrift (63.5 would have been great. it's a 180/190 bike!). And yes, I struggle to understand what's in the mind of bike companies still using long ST...
@@Dini2kMTB Yeah, and what happens with the BB height and STA? Lets say the STA we can "ignore" for a bike which is not focused on climbing. I would go with putting a 29er front wheel on a 27.5 frame, as that would affect less the BB height, but anyway, these are workarounds.
@@dit4963 Propain is building 29er front and rear triangles and 27.5er front and rear triangles in every size. So if you order the Spindrift as a mullet bike you will get a bike with 29er front triangle paired with a 27.5er rear triangle. The front triangle has -23mm BB Offset and the rear triangle only has -10mm offset. Therefor the BB height relative to the ground will be exactly the same on a mullet and on an full 29er. That by the way also means that the mullet version is NOT slacker than the full 29er as seen on the geometry charts at Propain only the 190mm ZEB will have a slight effect.
@@Endurophin Yes, I know what you wrote. But not sure how is that related to the previous posts... Obviously a mullet coming from Propain is not the same with taking a 27.5 frame (front and rear triangle) and converting it to a mullet by putting a 29er fork and wheel in front, which is what I wrote.
@@dit4963 worked out that with the 190 zeb 29 frame wi 29 chainstay length with 27.5 wheel it only drops the bb by 4.5mm, so for bike park laps i think this is acceptable.
Every boomer always jokes about my dropper seat height when it's up lol. I always get that "Wow you have your seat way up high. That isn't too high?" XD
If the Propain rides as the video states, then it basically rides like a current-gen Intense Tracer. The suspension on this bike is nearly identical to the Enduro-flavor of Intense's current VPP-derived suspension geo, and it does not "barn door".
@Pinkbike After watching this review (and many others of your awesome videos) one question came to my mind... I ordered the Spindrift and I already have a second wheelset waiting for the bike to arrive. It'll be my bikepark wheelset sporting the 350 hubs with 36t ratchet. Maybe I'll upgrade to 54t later... I'm planning to buy another wheelset with a high engagement hub (maybe 102 or 120 teeth) for more aventure-like All Mountain/Enduro days. Now (finally) my question: Did you encounter any noticeable pedal kickback on the Spindrift with the Hydra hub? Thanx in advance and cheers from Germany! ✌🏻😎🤘🏻
is it reasonable for me to want this bike? i don't know if i'll ever go to a bike park but where i live, there are some gnarly trails in my opinion. you have to pedal up 500 meters and on the descents i often wished, i had something more forgiving than my 140 mm trailbike. going down "whitout focussing to much on what's going on" is kind of what i want. would have gone for the tyee but that's not really available right now.
9:24 I hear ya Kaz! Ze Germans can engineers a 180mm bike to pedal but can’t get a seat tube low enough. Seriously this is a real thing, most if not all the Euro brands have too long seat tubes. Don’t they like droppers posts over there? 150mm droppers are so 2018 that’s like in the monolith period in bicycle terms.
You also have to think the other way around. I have the 2018 version of the Spindrift. It has the same 460mm seat tube length. I am 1,84m tall and it fits me perfectly, yet my 160mm dropper post is pulled out nearly 100mm. Thats almost as much as is allowed for my post.
@@obi-wankenobi9871 no I think we’re on the same page mate. So from what your saying is that your XL frames seat tube is to short where as in SM, M, L are to long! Yep that’s bad engineering! Just to cement this point, my 11year olds XS Merida has a taller slammed seat height and standover than my M Ripmo!
Yes, this is a factor! At 5’10/178cm, and wanting to stick to using a OneUp 210 dropper, I don’t see many bikes giving this possibility, and neither Propain. It fits my YT 29(/79) Jeffsy and Capra bikes with about a cm to spare.
Man I'm really looking into this bike or to get Santa Cruz Nomad. I love them both, great looking but full with equipment. This bike costs in Germany around 5000€ (used with high end stuff) and Santa Cruz is hard to find around that price... The new one is 8500€ which is huge difference... If someone has experience with those 2 bikes please let me know, because I'm getting one of them for next season.
Nimm doch das Alu Spindrift mit Rockshox Ultimate Fahrwerk. Hab meins letzte Woche bekommen undnes ist echt ein Bikeparkmonster! Das DH wird bald verkauft werden weils Spindrift so bombe ist 👌
Hello guys outhere. After more than a year ago I posted this comment. And want you all to let know how great this bike is. I bought custom build with great specs for less than 4000€. On my spec is Zeb ultimate with 190mm travel and its crazy good downhill. If anyone has more questions about it you can ask.
The front brake tube like that is really bad on the trail, you should route it correctly. Even if it is too short to be put on the right side, you can pass him inside the left brake tube or shifter/seatpost cable.
Really weird how that rear brake disc clearance passed through quality control like that. That's a fail, and having issues with something like that on a bike in this price range is just no bueno.
same man, if it wasn't for that, I'd probably get that bike. imagine having a little bend in your disc, you'd immediately have to change it because it would damage the frame.
I know this is a little late but, wouldn't the size M (450mm reach) be a better fit for Mike? Why oversize (not bashing just curious)? I am 1.91M (6.2 ft no shoes on) and I ordered a size L spindrift (475mm). Will it feel too small? Should I return it and get XL?
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I probably would have pointed out more clearly how many differents part you can customize, its really incredible in my opinion
The US configurator is very limited compare to the European.
@@andreijorda4598 Ah ok, the one in europe is incredible tho
I ordered my custom Propain CF 2 weeks ago and yes, indeed, the customization is incredible!
Don't want to rub it in but bought a new Tyee CF back in the summer with nearly identical geo to the spindrift but a 170/160 setup. Rockshock lyric ultimate/ super deluxe ultimate coil, carbon bars/ cranks, Gx drivetrain, stans flow wheelset and code rsc's for £4200, absolute barging for one hell of a rig!! Fair play Propain! 👏👏Sounds like they need to sort it out in the US.
He does say that it is very configurable at @4:00
Please also review the Tyee when you can 👍
I have ordered the Aluminium Tyee, which will hopefully arrive here in February. I would be so happy to see a pink mike review of it!
they did a written review last year
@@Will.Tilcke your’re getting it in February? I also ordered a Tyee Al but over one month ago and its arriving in MAY!
@@jonamai3422 I ordered mine 1st week of November in the Netherlands, and hopefully will arrive first week of March. So 4.5 months in my case.
@@DmitryBaryshnikov So you live in the Netherlands, don't you think you'll be a bit overbiked on the trails here? I live in the Netherlands too and am debating what kind of bike I should get. What kind of riding will you use it for, just park or are you planning on using it on the more mellow trails as well? I'd love to buy a beast of a bike like this but I want to be able to use it on local everyday riding as well. Do you have any opinions on big travel bikes in Holland?
Really wanted that review, very glad as everything is within my expectations 😊
The 9000 dollars also ?
@@peet4921 well, that's unfortunate
I have my spindrift CF since 3. of Nov. and I am very Happy, even with a much lower Budget. Payed arround 3.6k Euros. It climbs so well for a bike with that much of travel. Even though I picked the larger size (XL at 1,88m), it's super playfull and easy to handle! And daaamn, the carbon raw looks soo sick!
Mit 3.6k bist ja schon recht nah am Minimum. Welche Konfiguration hast genommen? Sram G2 Bremsen und RS Select+ Federung?
@@Endurophin abgesehen von der standardversion:
RS ZEB Select +
RS SELECT COIL
MT5
Bikeyoke 185er
Kettenführung
Veetires
@@joemido100 Klingt vernünftig, wobei ich da echt ins grübeln gekommen wäre nicht doch ein paar Euro mehr für den Ultimate Coil zu investieren. So wie man hört soll der ja sogar besser sein als die von Fox.
@@joemido100 Aber auf jeden fall wohl ein geiles Bike, hatte auch kurz überlegt, mich dann aber doch fürs YT Capra Shred entschieden.
@@Endurophin Bike ist genial, das Capra fährt sich auch geil, zumindest bergab. Finde es einfach von der Geo her nicht soo geeignet als "All-For-One" Bike, da man im Uphill schon merklich mehr ackern muss. Aber ja, geiles Bike, so oder so! Und zum Dämpfer: Die fehlende Druckstufenverstellung kann defintiv ein Spaßkiller sein. Aktuell ist es so, dass sich der Hinterbau genau so fährt, wie ich es mir gewünscht habe. Hätte kein Lockout gebraucht, wippt auch so nicht. Und ja, nachrüsten geht immer. War bei mir einfach so ein Budget ding. Die Select+ Variante der Gabel habe ich gewählt, weil sie einfach die 2.1 Kartusche hat und Durckstufenverstellung. Bei Dämpfer war dann die Kohle weg :D
I cant wait for my Spindrift 😍
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I have one of these in the mullet setup and if you are a dh/enduro rider that can only afford the one bike get this. Pedals unbelievably well, super playful can take on any trail proven by it being ridden at rampage and look beautiful, i recommend chrome decals with any colour as they are actually more reflective than i thought and basically become whatever colour reflects off it so you can really confuse ur mates with photos
Was it cf
@@JerryTheReporter yes
5:47 A WILD LEVY APPEARS! dududududu
FINALLY!!!! wow, I knew this bike was awesome but I didn't know it was this good, definitely going to buy it now:) great video!
For me it was between this one and Canyon Torque, but with Canyon's shoddy quality control and higher price for the same components( and the fact you can't pick them yourself) makes the Propain the winner here.
the torque is pretty dated now IMO - due a refresh soon with bigger wheels, steeper seat tube etc.
Got that updatr
Most anticipated review! I wish it was the mullet version
There was another review that suggested the 29 frame option with a 27.5 rear would be the best config. I think i’ll get this set-up for rough park days. Will make it that little bit more slacker and rail the corners 👌
Btw.. you can get it in mullet out of the box
@@ritchiephillips5084 I saw that they offer the mullet version stock, I just wish Pinkbike reviewed that version
@@dimitrithomas yes, I too wish they reviewed that option. Or actually, I would like a bike switchable between 79 and 29 just with a flip chip. I’m patiently waiting...
A review of the cyee 29 would be really nice
Awesome review! Mines currently being made in the factory this week 🥳 just in time for Christmas! Ill definitely be swapping out that seat though 🤣
Are you in US?
mines coming in feb
How do you manage to talk about the component spec of this bike without mentioning, that you get to choose EVERY SINGLE PART besides the bottom bracket?
EXACTLY! You can even choose to pair an AXS derailleur with a GX cassette and crank, literally the best bike configurator ever.
I think they didn’t really mention it because they specifically reviewed the Highend version of the Spindrift. But in my opinion the customization is one of the biggest advantages of propain. If you don’t need the Carbon wheels and the XO1 AXS drivetrain, you can get the Spindrift with Factory Suspension for about 4500€
@@Philipp-ke2tb You're right. Can get a full fox factory build with 3900 Euros if you opt for a GX drivetrain and standard alloy rims. Now that is amazing value, especially considering endless combinations of components you can personally choose, so basically a custom build from the frame at a much cheaper price.
@@ianw3811 Yeah the value is really good. I just ordered my Tyee last week with full Factory Suspension, GX drivetrain, Code RSC brakes and BikeYoke dropper and paid 4500€. A Specalized or Trek with this configuration would easily cost 1500€ more.
Ive heard that the customization is only ridiculously crazy on the European website and that in other countries the customization is lesser.
The saddle is totally fine! Fits my butt very well.
I will get one soon, can't wait!
I think the most interesting highlight is that you can choose almost every component you want in their configurator, so you can choose where u want to spend money, for example u can choose a cheap curcuit but a good suspension. Although u can select a 190mm fork in front
Jägermeister i love it! You can even put a fox 38 factory on the aluminium frame. That‘s so rare.
@@Trihannes Yeah that's pretty cool. I ordered a Tyee with an aluminium frame but with the fox factory suspension. Propain is the only manufacturer I know that are having such a good configurator
@@Lukas-vr4eo Last Bikes has even more options to choose from.
@@Endurophin they have more options that few people care to change and less options that actually matter. I'd much rather be able to customise my drivetrain the way you can on Propain than choose my headset spacers and stem cap like on Last.
@@vidieitis You're right about the drivetrain but with any other part they are on par or better than Propain, atleast that's my opinion. Last Bikes are a bit more expansive though.
It's a great frame. Got the 27.5 alu frame since I don't like carbon and I honestly sometimes wonder about some of mikes comments. I run a 210mm dropper with room for even more at a size L frame. I'm182cm tall.. Never felt the seat tube was too long. The bike is made to work with 190mm fork too, so slap on a zeb 190mm and you have 0.5 slacker HTA. Something Mike did not mention. You can also run a full on DH fork on this frame. The al frame is very sturdy and quite stiff but also very heavy. As always it's a compromise.
How heavy is it with alloy frame?
@@nejcbesal1578 dunno, never weighed it. but it's not light. The alloy frame is about 1kg heavier than the carbon counterpart.
@@TeamCykelhold Thanks very much. I am looking to buy alloy spindrift. Do you have any advice (upsides, downsides) about the bike.
@@nejcbesal1578 downsides? Seems to eat frame bearings. It has very high leverage ratio, so it can be quite hard on the shocks. Upsides? All the rest. I think it's a great freeride bike. It's not meant to be an enduro bike I think, but it does lift days very well, as well as jump lines and whatever you throw at it. The bike is bomb proof, and it can hold up to a season of very hard riding no problems, where all carbon frames I have had start creaking and show signs of not really liking the hammering after half a season.
@@TeamCykelhold Thanks for the advice. How hard is it to climbe since it is a very heavy bike? I usually go to bike park without the lift, can you ride it on steep uphil...?
I like this Geometriy of the Bike and hopefullt gonna buy something like this, may be a bit older .🔥🔥🔥🔥🤙🏼
great review! I cant decide between the Spindrift and the Tyee... But since everybody says the Spindrift pedals well, maybe that's the one
What did you go for in the end?
I would like to know what you went with also.
Great review, thanks! I will get my hands on one in April, will be fun to test!
Ordered mine a few days ago. Just brought the frame so I can put my own parts on it. Great review as always👍
That one's freaking amazing, drop an angleset and you're all set
@TCaad10 Really? Damn I didn't it was something that could void a warranty
@@FreerideQuebec I'm very late about this but I read the thread the other guy is referencing. Propain got back to the poster in the forum to say they misunderstood the reply from their tech department and it is possible and will not impede the warranty. If you're still interested in it, write the propain support yourself. They replied to me within an hour.
@@RiversideM As of now Propain are not available in my country, I know they're working on it but it might take a while...or I'll pay crazy amount of fees to import it :/
Could you make a video on the new Tyee? Thanks
it's so nice, grey is my favorite on bikes
The Germans really know how to build machines 🤘🏾
i love this bike... my Uzzi weighs the same and is aluminum, if i were to replace it this would be my top choice atm
Can't wait for the Spindrift to come to the US
i almost purchased a propain bike last year. I remember it was a big year because they finally shipped review samples out to companies rather than relying on owners to review.
In the end I purchased a Trek, i wanted to see what Propain would do with the spindrift - but it took too long. Great review as always
The geometry chart on propains website show the seattube at 460mm, not 470mm
They made my wanted bike :) one bike to do it all : winter enduro/ summer bike park
That is one good looking rig!!
I wish the bike had something to close up the holes where the cables go as sealance
Try fitting some small rubber o ring just slice one to get it in, that's what i'd do.
just use electrical tape on the cables to make them thicker in the places where they enter the frame
Lemme just say that I LOVE the look of this thing
Yeah it’s mint and I’m getting it hopefully :)
For other people reading this I know him lol I’m not just boasting
Sweet ride. Wish I could afford one.
just ordered the bike and an headtube angleset of 1 degree from WORKS COMPONENTS just in case i want to drop the headtube angle at some point to 63,5
Oh man i really should not spend so much money for a new bike as a student but i want it so bad. Will probably visit Propain personally in a few month, when the circumstances with corona are more chill. I live not far away from Propain - Bikes and hope for a good deal there... probably connections to they´re teamriders will help
190mm fox 40 ordered for my new mullet spindrift.. going to be a beast of a bike👌
Likin the sound of that... what fork is it replacing out of interest did u try the 190 zeb??
@@Dini2kMTB I ordered it with the cheaper rockshox zeb 180mm as I think it would be the easiest fork to sell on.. never tried the zeb but I didn't get on with the longer travel lyric when I tried them.. been riding fox with a while now and I like the more linear feel of them. And more importantly it suits the black and orange colour scheme 😁
Have you gone mullet out of the box or 29 and will convert to mullet? Read a review that suggested the longer chainstay of the 29er with 27.5 rear was the best combo. Makes it that little bit slacker too
@@ritchiephillips5084 mullet out of the box, I currently have the older 27.5 spindrift. And first thing I noticed was how short the rear is.. makes it very poppy and nimble for such a long travel bike. So I'm hoping the new bike feels the same only with the larger front wheel for ploughing over stuff. If I lived somewhere with bigger mountains I could understand why people want longer slacker bikes, but where I live has a mix of techy and dh so I feel the spindrift is a great all-rounder. With the 190mm dual crown fork It should sit at 64° head angle.and I could always drop the stansions in the triple clamps if I want to raise the front end and make it slacker if I head to the Alps or something.(or put the 200mm air shaft back in)🤔
@@martincantwell2557 How about the Rotor clearance did you had any issues? Also how would you compere the tyee with the spindrift . thanks
We live in a world where 64.5 degrees isn't super slack 😂
Slack enough.
Unless you are rich drew
Such a nice bike 😍
Finally a review that's not in german
awesome love these videos
That front brake cable floppin around tho
Great looking bike.
spindrift an tyee, i just want one, in nz but not avail :(
We need a Spindrift vs Ransom :D
Mike, how would you compare it to the Firebird?
Basically uses VPP but with different shock placement, no wonder the kinematics are killer
Hi awesome review and nice vid quality as well
Can we at least have some ideas on how did you shot this review, like camera settings and luts, tia!
I really like the series, but I wished you would also test the 2021 Commencal Clash. I'm interested in buying one and a review would help a lot
In case you haven't bought anything, the clash is a very linear bike which is strange being that it's a freeride bike, you'll definitely need a megneg or float shox to make it feel more lively, and the WTB wheels that were on the entry level bike are garbage like you literally rip them apart whitin 3 weeks of riding, also my frame cracked with only 5 months of use, I really like commencal V3 DH but the clash isnt being the greateste bike for me so far
@@mafs1996 Well, meanwhile I bought it, but not the entry level bike so my tires are still on and it feels great for me. Sorry to hear that your frame broke, I'm riding my Clash for 7 month now, nothing happend. It safed my day in Leogang when the circuit on my DH bike broke 😂👍
@@derFraro oh haha then don't mind my comment in glad your enjoying it, keep Riping brother
I like the bike but I also hope I can win today’s advent calendar today
1:19 looks like the suspension is also a water bottle ejection device.
not every cage is compatible, the same on the old spindrift
I like to it better from 1:17 for full effect
do a tyee review pls!
All I could do is stare at that right handed front brake lever and wonder how he didn’t fly over the bars by grabbing the wrong brake lever lol
Whens the next pink bike academy 😌
great review
I like the trek slash more
allready out : ruclips.net/video/uDiqechx1hw/видео.html&ab_channel=Pinkbike
well you know nothing about suspension design then
So 190mm on front bike be perfect maybe headset angle kit I feel same would like it 63.5
just got the 27.5 i am 6'1'' wear 32 inseam pants. I got a 180mm one up dropper, and its raised up about 1 inch from bottom and the stock saddle has high rails. i disagree with the seat tube being tall.
Is it possible for you guys to get a 2021 Commencal Clash essential?
How is it for doubling rollers and popping off of rocks because I like riding big freeride stuff but I also like more mellow flowy stuff and I don't want to feel completely suspensioned out on that
Why don't we see Kaz riding in the videos?
Aside from that -- great reviews, thanks.
Do you think with a shorter seat tube length a longer dropper would even fit? It looks like it may end up too narrow lower down the seat tube.
In fact: it wouldn't fit. I can definitely confirm that with regard to the 185 Bikeyoke Revive dropper on my L-size: Even if the seat tube was 2 cm longer, the minimum insertion depth would not change. For few of us with short legs the seat tube length of these bikes might be an issue, but for the vast majority, especially the ones using dropper posts longer than 15cm, imho it will not.
Come on man
The dropper Post can't go any deeper if the seattube would be shorter
I'm confused on the dropper size, I ordered a spindrift few weeks back but without the dropper, propains charts says I need a 125 in a large frame as I have short legs. I've never owned a dropper so not sure if it would be too low for climbing
THE LAST BIKE IS THE SANTA CRUZ NOMAD
i find many reviews that dont explain the relationship between stem length and fork offset. "this bike handles really well" is all good, but things change from 44mm to 37mm fork offset, and 35 to 50mm stem length. what were you running?
somewhat related, i have a hugene with a 150/42mm offset fork and a 40mm stem. i also have a Tyee with a 170/37mm offset fork, and a 35mm stem. the latter bike was done so that i have the most sensitive steering at very high speed. it's kinda twitchy on slow uphill sludges, but that's not the sole reason why i purchased it, anyway.
Good review! Considering that Propain also has the Tyee, I don't understand why they haven't went slacker with the Spindrift (63.5 would have been great. it's a 180/190 bike!). And yes, I struggle to understand what's in the mind of bike companies still using long ST...
190 forks n 27.5 wheel out back brings it to 63.1 degrees
@@Dini2kMTB Yeah, and what happens with the BB height and STA? Lets say the STA we can "ignore" for a bike which is not focused on climbing. I would go with putting a 29er front wheel on a 27.5 frame, as that would affect less the BB height, but anyway, these are workarounds.
@@dit4963 Propain is building 29er front and rear triangles and 27.5er front and rear triangles in every size. So if you order the Spindrift as a mullet bike you will get a bike with 29er front triangle paired with a 27.5er rear triangle. The front triangle has -23mm BB Offset and the rear triangle only has -10mm offset. Therefor the BB height relative to the ground will be exactly the same on a mullet and on an full 29er. That by the way also means that the mullet version is NOT slacker than the full 29er as seen on the geometry charts at Propain only the 190mm ZEB will have a slight effect.
@@Endurophin Yes, I know what you wrote. But not sure how is that related to the previous posts... Obviously a mullet coming from Propain is not the same with taking a 27.5 frame (front and rear triangle) and converting it to a mullet by putting a 29er fork and wheel in front, which is what I wrote.
@@dit4963 worked out that with the 190 zeb 29 frame wi 29 chainstay length with 27.5 wheel it only drops the bb by 4.5mm, so for bike park laps i think this is acceptable.
No se andar en bici, en esta se pueden poner ruedines para ir aprendiendo?
5:47 levy’s seat height made my dad lmao 😂
Every boomer always jokes about my dropper seat height when it's up lol. I always get that "Wow you have your seat way up high. That isn't too high?" XD
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Oh, the seat hurt your tush?
Test it man.
Does it "barn door" at all, like an older vpp bike, I know that with the opposite rotating links that can be an issue.
What do you mean "barn door" ?
@@TeamCykelhold older santa cruz bikes tended to blow through the last 25-30% of the travel because of how the leverage used to be
@@lukesteele5013 Ah ok. Just never saw it referred to as barn door.
If the Propain rides as the video states, then it basically rides like a current-gen Intense Tracer. The suspension on this bike is nearly identical to the Enduro-flavor of Intense's current VPP-derived suspension geo, and it does not "barn door".
God damn..I cant decide between nukeproof giga 290 factory and spindrift 29.
Help please!
@Pinkbike
After watching this review (and many others of your awesome videos) one question came to my mind...
I ordered the Spindrift and I already have a second wheelset waiting for the bike to arrive. It'll be my bikepark wheelset sporting the 350 hubs with 36t ratchet. Maybe I'll upgrade to 54t later...
I'm planning to buy another wheelset with a high engagement hub (maybe 102 or 120 teeth) for more aventure-like All Mountain/Enduro days.
Now (finally) my question: Did you encounter any noticeable pedal kickback on the Spindrift with the Hydra hub?
Thanx in advance and cheers from Germany!
✌🏻😎🤘🏻
What's up with the road shoes and SPD-SL pedals!?
5:52 you mean these? those are xc race shoes made by specialized
Those were used for the efficiency test - the pedals have a built in power meter.
Do u think u would u be happy with the head angle with a 27.5 on the back...it is an order option?
Commencal clash review please
Do they plan to update Spindrift in near future, let's say '24? Like they recently updated Tyee?
is it reasonable for me to want this bike? i don't know if i'll ever go to a bike park but where i live, there are some gnarly trails in my opinion. you have to pedal up 500 meters and on the descents i often wished, i had something more forgiving than my 140 mm trailbike. going down "whitout focussing to much on what's going on" is kind of what i want. would have gone for the tyee but that's not really available right now.
9:24 I hear ya Kaz! Ze Germans can engineers a 180mm bike to pedal but can’t get a seat tube low enough.
Seriously this is a real thing, most if not all the Euro brands have too long seat tubes. Don’t they like droppers posts over there?
150mm droppers are so 2018 that’s like in the monolith period in bicycle terms.
You also have to think the other way around. I have the 2018 version of the Spindrift. It has the same 460mm seat tube length. I am 1,84m tall and it fits me perfectly, yet my 160mm dropper post is pulled out nearly 100mm. Thats almost as much as is allowed for my post.
@@obi-wankenobi9871 no I think we’re on the same page mate. So from what your saying is that your XL frames seat tube is to short where as in SM, M, L are to long! Yep that’s bad engineering! Just to cement this point, my 11year olds XS Merida has a taller slammed seat height and standover than my M Ripmo!
Yes, this is a factor! At 5’10/178cm, and wanting to stick to using a OneUp 210 dropper, I don’t see many bikes giving this possibility, and neither Propain. It fits my YT 29(/79) Jeffsy and Capra bikes with about a cm to spare.
@Tyroo, so true, you can also order a different seat :D!
Man I'm really looking into this bike or to get Santa Cruz Nomad. I love them both, great looking but full with equipment. This bike costs in Germany around 5000€ (used with high end stuff) and Santa Cruz is hard to find around that price... The new one is 8500€ which is huge difference...
If someone has experience with those 2 bikes please let me know, because I'm getting one of them for next season.
Nimm doch das Alu Spindrift mit Rockshox Ultimate Fahrwerk. Hab meins letzte Woche bekommen undnes ist echt ein Bikeparkmonster! Das DH wird bald verkauft werden weils Spindrift so bombe ist 👌
Hello guys outhere. After more than a year ago I posted this comment. And want you all to let know how great this bike is. I bought custom build with great specs for less than 4000€. On my spec is Zeb ultimate with 190mm travel and its crazy good downhill. If anyone has more questions about it you can ask.
The front brake tube like that is really bad on the trail, you should route it correctly. Even if it is too short to be put on the right side, you can pass him inside the left brake tube or shifter/seatpost cable.
Triangle reminds me of transition patrol
Really weird how that rear brake disc clearance passed through quality control like that. That's a fail, and having issues with something like that on a bike in this price range is just no bueno.
same man, if it wasn't for that, I'd probably get that bike. imagine having a little bend in your disc, you'd immediately have to change it because it would damage the frame.
You can just get a smaller rotor etc. That's propably caused by the fact that you can choose your own parts and therefore it gets close in some cases.
Greetings from SoCal
He uses the right brake lever for the front brake?
Normal in the UK and sometimes riders who are used to motorbikes will also do this.
@@robinclaidlaw I only know it from road bikes
Anyone swapped out the rear 29er to mullet the bike? I know they offer a mullet but I am curious about the process for the 29,er
1:15 😍
Are at the Boundry Bay Mountain Room?
Which grips do you use on the bike in the video?
Does anyone know when it will be available in Canada, and the prices?
Hi, what would you recomment for 168 height? S or M? I will use it 80% for downhill
Thanks
Medium
S is also fine.
That front brake cable just barely avoiding the tire is hurting my eyes.
So glad im not the only one! It was giving me anxiety at 10.43!
Damn I want this so bad.
This verse Slash 9.9. Thoughts ?
Great brand
Seems like an amazing bike, but what he said about the Rotor clearance made me cringe! Although on my current bike, it's pretty tight too.
There's approximately 20% extra on all German bikes now, since Brexit you can add another £900 to a YT pro race in extra charges!
I know this is a little late but, wouldn't the size M (450mm reach) be a better fit for Mike? Why oversize (not bashing just curious)?
I am 1.91M (6.2 ft no shoes on) and I ordered a size L spindrift (475mm). Will it feel too small? Should I return it and get XL?
If you don't have crazy long arms it should be perfect.
But will definitely be on the shorter side, propably very manouverable for you.