I have the tyee cf 6 in a medium I’m 5’7 and 140 pounds. I love this bike. I’m running it at 27.5 front and rear with tacky Chan tires and it’s awesome. Suspension platform is awesome reminds me of mondraker
I have the Hugene, and it’s easily one of my favorites that I’ve ever owned. I love how they now have the option to fully customize the bikes. And there customer service is really great
I’ve had my aluminum tyee for about 20 rides. It’s heavy, maybe 37-38lbs, compared to my carbon trail bike. Between myself and my friends who rode it, we feel that it’s one the best pedaling enduro bikes and doesn’t feel like a 37-38lb bike. Even with the coil shock I installed on it, it pedals better than my trail bike, and just makes for a quiet, soft, and enjoyable downhill platform.
I got the Tyee 3 years ago. The Hugene would have been a better match for me on paper, but at 190 cms and 92 kilos plus gear I opted for this beast. My main concern was pedalling, but as advertised and commented in many reviews, it pedals like a dream, even whith the coil shock (always get the appropiate coil for your weight!). I got the creacking noise in the headset too, but other than that a supercapable all trail all mountain downcountry crosscountry bike that I would buy again without hesitation. Great customer service too.
hey happy new ladies and gents. i am a happy owner of a propain rage, the dj bike and i love it ever since. had a chance to ride the tyee a couple of times last season and likes it so much, i want to have my own. saving the money now and hopefully be able to get my dream bike later this summer. i also don’t mind getting a bike from 2023 just to save some money for traveling.
I got the Tyee CF mid summer and it exceeded my expectations. Threw some DT Swiss 514 wheels on it along with the new Rockshox Vivid Ultimate and it's been a monster truck on the downhills. At it's price point there's probably not a better bike out there.
The YT Capra gets my vote for the best affordable capable Enduro bike. After 2 seasons I have had no issues. This replaced my 2014 Specialized Enduro. I also split my time depending upon where I am riding on a Turbo SL, Stumpjumper, or Norco Shore Park mtb.
While not the updated version, I ran a 2022 Tyee CF for a year and loved it. I am 5'10" and went with a large, which was pretty spot on with my reach preferences. I replaced the stock wheels with carbon i9's and went to a longer 180mm dropper (160 was not enough). I did struggle a little getting the rear shock (2023 SD Ultimate Coil) set up to my liking at first, at 200lb, I ended up with my Springdex eventually set to 600-610lb (max), which was a fair bit higher than the charts suggested. Also took a bit to get the rebound feeling good and balanced with the front Zeb Ultimate, but eventually got it all sorted and the Tyee was a fantastic ride. I'd agree that it's handling is very middle of the road. Meaning it is well balanced. Does not rip turns quite was easily as my Strive CFR, but it was stable, fun and very easy to get along with.
I just built up my Propain Tyee 6 AL Frameset size L and I love it! Surprised me on how easy it climbs and it is really quiet. The Build is up on my channel.
I'd love to get on one, As a short rider though, the long seat tube and shallow seat tube insertion doesn't make it doable unfortunately. Just need Propain to get that sorted out!
I love my Tyee, I almost wish I would have waited a year to get a mullet option but I'm happy with my 27.5. I sized down strictly because of the standover height. it was a bit high for my inseam and I'm glad I did. I think a medium (I'm 5/8) would have been fine but more on the big side and less playful.
@@13thbornpr Yeah I did. I have a 30" inseam. Being on it for a year now I think a medium would have been fine but I like to be able to sit flat footed with my seat down and stand over the bar without issue. There are times I wish I would have sized up for the longer wheelbase. It's a fun bike though.
I'm riding my tyee 27.5 for the third season now, I've got the previous version from the one on the video so no flip chip. Propain doesn't recommend turning that one into a mullet unfortunately but the bike is awesome, dirt shields really do the trick I didn't have to replace any frame bearings. I did have to replace bearings in Newmen hubs though and my Sram GX was a pain to setup plus I had to file down some teeth on the cassette because the chain didn't get on them well and made noises. RS coil and Lyrik combo are super plush, this bike rides through everything and you don't really feel it much on your arms and legs I was super impressed by that. However, with tacky tires like Magic Mary and Big Betty it felt like pedaling through tar, I've only replaced the front tire with Assegai and it got a little better, rear tire is still hanging on though.
Listen up bois, headset cable routing - big dealbreaker, it's literally useless, even aesthetically it's worse so what's the point eh? HOWEVER: Iv'e been on a Tyee since 2022 and GOD DAMN LORD MY MAKER, this bike is an absolute beast, I'm sure the geo updates make sense too. Tip if anyone's buying the Tyee: Do not opt for the EG.30 wheels, they are simply bad. Numerous reviews on the propain fan page, incl. myself, they don't hold up. Either spec up, or down, and get yourself another pair whenever the cheap ones break. Happy go cycling mofos! 💯
@@godstrashman Never trust a stranger with candy my man, Other than than the cable routing they're pretty solid, depending on spec of course. Do check clearance of rear disc rotor in relation to the frame mount and adapter, it will rub on some frames, so you'll need to put a pedal washer on the through-axle to shift the rotor slightly to one side. This is mostly if you're on wider rotors, but some cases the calipers will be hard to centre because of this so just check, it's probably chill. Enjoy your new bike buddy!
@@Frorideism Sweet, thanks. What spring rate over rider weight have you settled on? I'm a gambling man so I'm going to go right for a fancy spring to start with this time
@@godstrashman I'm on 450 spring, rider weight 76kg no gear, DHX2 coil, no plans on changing it, for my riding it's perfect, may hand it in for a tune before next season though. Side note: Checked out your uploads and just want to say I appreciate you and also I'm G
I have already ordered my dream propain tyee 6 AL 29er and while configuring it I went with the headset cable routed stem option, but because y’all spoke of the noise coming from that area 6:39 because of plastic on plastic I’m gonna email them tonight telling them I’m instead gonna go with the traditional stem and save myself $70 bucks
Thanks reviewing a German brand just couple hours away from where I live. Unfortunately their 2022 models seat tube was too longe in size M to put more than 160mm dropper at 5f8“. Now they shortened it but decreased in the same amount the insertion depths, so I still could only fit a 160mm dropper in a size M. What is this in 2024? You don’t get the same issue in L/XL? I ended up with the Rallon 2022 and am happy with 200mm dropper :) What I like about Propain that they have a long history with good parts like full Formula Selva/mod coil/Cura setup. Or before changing to newmen (nearby company) they were one of few German brands with notubes rims
Hahaha. We will ask them if they want to give it away just because you brought it up!! If they say yes, we’ll give you a free shirt and good luck! Haha
I got the tyee al 6 a month now. It pedals the same as my trailbike and the same pop. Got a fox 36 in 170mm. 38 is overkill for me. But hell this bike scratches fast...
It's not necessarily an issue, you may just experience creaking eventually when dirt works its way in there, and it can be fixed with a quick clean and regrease.
Depends where you live. In Portugal, we pay only 6% tax on bikes, and since propain doesn't do it, it's not the best deal. I got a Cube Stereo One77 Race for 2700€. It's a very identical spec to that one.
The previous generation of alloy frames are $999 right now. The differences are very minimal and in some cases a matter of preference rather than a downgrade (e.g. more progressive linkage, more conservative geo for a given size)
@@hannes6114 On carbon, yes. Though frankly, everyone paying double for carbon may as well go full stupid and do cable tourism Tyee 5 alloy: normal internal routing, cables flopping around under the bb Tyee 6 alloy: also normal internal routing, no cables flopping around under the bb
My Tyee AL 6 size M with 160/160, fox air shock, lyrik rc, cheapest wheel options, dhr/assegi tires, X01 with carbon cranks ($150 no brainer) weights 34.0 lbs and was under 4k, no better bike for the price imo and I'm not even pushing the limits on southeast US trails.
Thankfully the headset cable routing is optional on that one. Does Propain sell complete bikes set up without headset routing? Did you guys have bottom out issues on the coil? 55mm stroke shock is REALLY short for 160 travel and would seem very coil unfriendly. Especially compared to the GG Gnarvana (RIP GG) that the other presenter has which is an extremely coil friendly bike.
So interesting thing about the suspension is I think it’s the same as Mondraker. Is a multi pivot. I have tested both coil and air. I don’t notice any travel issues. I’m 140 pounds and have a 475 spring rate
@@mikedyreby It's the leverage ratio. A 200+lb rider might have some issues with a shock that short with that level of travel. Most bikes with 160 travel have 60-65mm stroke shocks. 55mm is what you typically see on a 140-150 travel bike.
@@mrvwbug4423 I agree with what you’re saying. I found it weird on the website when you build the bike with fox suspension you get a fox 36 and float x. Which I feel are both trail focused suspension.
i ride the last generation (almost same geo but not headset routing) since 3 years and it's a really decent bike. suites me fine in M at 5"10. could be 10mm more reach, a little slacker headangle and bit lower bottom bracket then it would be fine. also the rear end functions way better if i go way above their coil strength recommendations (they recommend 500lbs at 85 kg (don't know how many pounds) and i found 600 lbs to suite me best). but i think i'm done with propain because of the headset routing on their newer models. even if they get rid of it in the future. it's jsut not cool to pull up with that shit and shove it in everyones face with aggressive bullshit marketing. tells something about their values. RAAW madonna would be my choice nowadays. very similar geo but all about maintainability.
Would have loved to buy one of their frames last year but their service here in Europe is... Not that great. They had my money for almost two months with no updates whatsoever...
Check the derailleur clutch is functioning well, and if so then get creative with your own frame protection. Some sticky-backed velcro in the chain guide, plus VHS Slapper Tape on the chainstays and seatstays should sort that out quick.
Why on earth would you run cables through a headset? What a major pain in the arse to sort that out, and plastic! That alone would stop me buying the bike.
Absolutely nothing in the world, will ever make me ever buy another bike with headset cable routing. It's fiddly to work on, looks awful and it's just dam right dangerous. On my Vitus it started sawing through the steerer tube of the fork. Ridiculous and unnecessary.
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I have the tyee cf 6 in a medium I’m 5’7 and 140 pounds. I love this bike. I’m running it at 27.5 front and rear with tacky Chan tires and it’s awesome. Suspension platform is awesome reminds me of mondraker
I have the Hugene, and it’s easily one of my favorites that I’ve ever owned. I love how they now have the option to fully customize the bikes. And there customer service is really great
Awesome to hear and yes! We’re all about custom bikes.
I’ve had my aluminum tyee for about 20 rides. It’s heavy, maybe 37-38lbs, compared to my carbon trail bike. Between myself and my friends who rode it, we feel that it’s one the best pedaling enduro bikes and doesn’t feel like a 37-38lb bike. Even with the coil shock I installed on it, it pedals better than my trail bike, and just makes for a quiet, soft, and enjoyable downhill platform.
Totally agree. Doesn’t feel like a nearly 40lb bike on trail
I got the Tyee 3 years ago. The Hugene would have been a better match for me on paper, but at 190 cms and 92 kilos plus gear I opted for this beast. My main concern was pedalling, but as advertised and commented in many reviews, it pedals like a dream, even whith the coil shock (always get the appropiate coil for your weight!). I got the creacking noise in the headset too, but other than that a supercapable all trail all mountain downcountry crosscountry bike that I would buy again without hesitation. Great customer service too.
hey happy new ladies and gents. i am a happy owner of a propain rage, the dj bike and i love it ever since. had a chance to ride the tyee a couple of times last season and likes it so much, i want to have my own. saving the money now and hopefully be able to get my dream bike later this summer. i also don’t mind getting a bike from 2023 just to save some money for traveling.
I got the Tyee CF mid summer and it exceeded my expectations. Threw some DT Swiss 514 wheels on it along with the new Rockshox Vivid Ultimate and it's been a monster truck on the downhills. At it's price point there's probably not a better bike out there.
how long did it take to deliver for you, just ordered mine and heard mixed reviews on customer service and shipping?
The YT Capra gets my vote for the best affordable capable Enduro bike. After 2 seasons I have had no issues. This replaced my 2014 Specialized Enduro. I also split my time depending upon where I am riding on a Turbo SL, Stumpjumper, or Norco Shore Park mtb.
While not the updated version, I ran a 2022 Tyee CF for a year and loved it. I am 5'10" and went with a large, which was pretty spot on with my reach preferences. I replaced the stock wheels with carbon i9's and went to a longer 180mm dropper (160 was not enough). I did struggle a little getting the rear shock (2023 SD Ultimate Coil) set up to my liking at first, at 200lb, I ended up with my Springdex eventually set to 600-610lb (max), which was a fair bit higher than the charts suggested. Also took a bit to get the rebound feeling good and balanced with the front Zeb Ultimate, but eventually got it all sorted and the Tyee was a fantastic ride. I'd agree that it's handling is very middle of the road. Meaning it is well balanced. Does not rip turns quite was easily as my Strive CFR, but it was stable, fun and very easy to get along with.
Congratulations 🎈🎊🍾 on the 100k let’s get to a million more followers I really like this bike the price point is very good as well
I just built up my Propain Tyee 6 AL Frameset size L and I love it! Surprised me on how easy it climbs and it is really quiet. The Build is up on my channel.
I'd love to get on one, As a short rider though, the long seat tube and shallow seat tube insertion doesn't make it doable unfortunately. Just need Propain to get that sorted out!
Thanks for sharing. Maybe they’ll check your comment out for future development.
@@TheLoamWolfone can only hope! Keep up the great work!
I ride a size M. I'm 1.75m and the longest I can get is 180mm oneup dropper. It's totally slammed down. The bike yoke dropper was way to long.
I love my Tyee, I almost wish I would have waited a year to get a mullet option but I'm happy with my 27.5. I sized down strictly because of the standover height. it was a bit high for my inseam and I'm glad I did. I think a medium (I'm 5/8) would have been fine but more on the big side and less playful.
So you got a small? I'm 5'8 also
@@13thbornpr Yeah I did. I have a 30" inseam. Being on it for a year now I think a medium would have been fine but I like to be able to sit flat footed with my seat down and stand over the bar without issue. There are times I wish I would have sized up for the longer wheelbase. It's a fun bike though.
@@13thbornpr If you have a chance to test ride first one I think that would be ideal.
I'm riding my tyee 27.5 for the third season now, I've got the previous version from the one on the video so no flip chip. Propain doesn't recommend turning that one into a mullet unfortunately but the bike is awesome, dirt shields really do the trick I didn't have to replace any frame bearings. I did have to replace bearings in Newmen hubs though and my Sram GX was a pain to setup plus I had to file down some teeth on the cassette because the chain didn't get on them well and made noises. RS coil and Lyrik combo are super plush, this bike rides through everything and you don't really feel it much on your arms and legs I was super impressed by that. However, with tacky tires like Magic Mary and Big Betty it felt like pedaling through tar, I've only replaced the front tire with Assegai and it got a little better, rear tire is still hanging on though.
Listen up bois, headset cable routing - big dealbreaker, it's literally useless, even aesthetically it's worse so what's the point eh?
HOWEVER: Iv'e been on a Tyee since 2022 and GOD DAMN LORD MY MAKER, this bike is an absolute beast, I'm sure the geo updates make sense too.
Tip if anyone's buying the Tyee: Do not opt for the EG.30 wheels, they are simply bad.
Numerous reviews on the propain fan page, incl. myself, they don't hold up.
Either spec up, or down, and get yourself another pair whenever the cheap ones break.
Happy go cycling mofos! 💯
Thanks for sharing. Lucky for fans of non-headset cable routing, this frame will accommodate both style! Hooray.
Just bought a 5th gen frame the other day, anything else to worry about besides the weird cable routing under the bb? I trust your guidance, froride
@@godstrashman Never trust a stranger with candy my man,
Other than than the cable routing they're pretty solid, depending on spec of course.
Do check clearance of rear disc rotor in relation to the frame mount and adapter,
it will rub on some frames, so you'll need to put a pedal washer on the through-axle to shift the rotor slightly to one side.
This is mostly if you're on wider rotors, but some cases the calipers will be hard to centre because of this so just check, it's probably chill.
Enjoy your new bike buddy!
@@Frorideism Sweet, thanks. What spring rate over rider weight have you settled on? I'm a gambling man so I'm going to go right for a fancy spring to start with this time
@@godstrashman I'm on 450 spring, rider weight 76kg no gear,
DHX2 coil, no plans on changing it, for my riding it's perfect, may hand it in for a tune before next season though.
Side note:
Checked out your uploads and just want to say I appreciate you and also I'm G
I have already ordered my dream propain tyee 6 AL 29er and while configuring it I went with the headset cable routed stem option, but because y’all spoke of the noise coming from that area 6:39 because of plastic on plastic I’m gonna email them tonight telling them I’m instead gonna go with the traditional stem and save myself $70 bucks
how long did it take to deliver for you, just ordered mine and heard mixed reviews on customer service and shipping?
Thanks reviewing a German brand just couple hours away from where I live. Unfortunately their 2022 models seat tube was too longe in size M to put more than 160mm dropper at 5f8“. Now they shortened it but decreased in the same amount the insertion depths, so I still could only fit a 160mm dropper in a size M. What is this in 2024? You don’t get the same issue in L/XL? I ended up with the Rallon 2022 and am happy with 200mm dropper :)
What I like about Propain that they have a long history with good parts like full Formula Selva/mod coil/Cura setup. Or before changing to newmen (nearby company) they were one of few German brands with notubes rims
Nice bike. You should give it away. I could learn to love that headset routing!
Hahaha. We will ask them if they want to give it away just because you brought it up!! If they say yes, we’ll give you a free shirt and good luck! Haha
I got the tyee al 6 a month now. It pedals the same as my trailbike and the same pop. Got a fox 36 in 170mm. 38 is overkill for me.
But hell this bike scratches fast...
Raw colour? I feel like glossy doesn't scratch as fast
@@hannes6114 olive
I own a Tyee. I love the bike. I built it and work on my bike myself and the cable routing is not a problem. It's a do-it-all bike in my opinion.
Hopefully they figured out the headset issue cause I just ordered an ekano 2 cf for a smokin deal
It's not necessarily an issue, you may just experience creaking eventually when dirt works its way in there, and it can be fixed with a quick clean and regrease.
@@TheLoamWolf or a bike without cable tourism.... what a silly thing tbh
looking to order the new spindrift. what decal kit is that? Diamond black or venom black?
Depends where you live. In Portugal, we pay only 6% tax on bikes, and since propain doesn't do it, it's not the best deal. I got a Cube Stereo One77 Race for 2700€. It's a very identical spec to that one.
But the Tyee is a lot cooler, I have to give that to them.
Thank you for sharing. Interesting to hear value stories from markets outside our own.
Thats why I will avoid internal headset routing. Debris and all contamination can get in there and could damage the bearing
The previous generation of alloy frames are $999 right now. The differences are very minimal and in some cases a matter of preference rather than a downgrade (e.g. more progressive linkage, more conservative geo for a given size)
the cable routing is a downgrade
@@hannes6114 On carbon, yes. Though frankly, everyone paying double for carbon may as well go full stupid and do cable tourism
Tyee 5 alloy: normal internal routing, cables flopping around under the bb
Tyee 6 alloy: also normal internal routing, no cables flopping around under the bb
Yeah I was talking about the bb area of the Al 5 but yeah the headset stuff ain't great either
@@hannes6114 Oh whoops, thought I had mentioned that in the comment
The only way I will have a bike with headset cable routing is with full wireless shifting and dropper. One brake hose is negligible
This or YT capra?
I am currently in between some long travel trail bike or (od climbing penalty is not big) capra/tyee.
I was in that dilemma last year. I got the previous Gen Tyee & I love it. I wish I had waited for the new mullet/MX version. They both great bikes.
Hi, same question i had on the yt capra, this is my second option and for 168cm height what would you recommend size S or M?
My Tyee AL 6 size M with 160/160, fox air shock, lyrik rc, cheapest wheel options, dhr/assegi tires, X01 with carbon cranks ($150 no brainer) weights 34.0 lbs and was under 4k, no better bike for the price imo and I'm not even pushing the limits on southeast US trails.
Right on! It's a sweet bike for sure.
how long did it take to deliver for you, just ordered mine and heard mixed reviews on customer service and shipping?
Thankfully the headset cable routing is optional on that one. Does Propain sell complete bikes set up without headset routing? Did you guys have bottom out issues on the coil? 55mm stroke shock is REALLY short for 160 travel and would seem very coil unfriendly. Especially compared to the GG Gnarvana (RIP GG) that the other presenter has which is an extremely coil friendly bike.
So interesting thing about the suspension is I think it’s the same as Mondraker. Is a multi pivot. I have tested both coil and air. I don’t notice any travel issues. I’m 140 pounds and have a 475 spring rate
@@mikedyreby It's the leverage ratio. A 200+lb rider might have some issues with a shock that short with that level of travel. Most bikes with 160 travel have 60-65mm stroke shocks. 55mm is what you typically see on a 140-150 travel bike.
@@mrvwbug4423 I agree with what you’re saying. I found it weird on the website when you build the bike with fox suspension you get a fox 36 and float x. Which I feel are both trail focused suspension.
Some greases can destroy plastic. Choose carefully. FYI
Yes we did not point that out! Sometimes those details slip our minds or we take them for granted! Thanks for helping out!
i ride the last generation (almost same geo but not headset routing) since 3 years and it's a really decent bike. suites me fine in M at 5"10. could be 10mm more reach, a little slacker headangle and bit lower bottom bracket then it would be fine. also the rear end functions way better if i go way above their coil strength recommendations (they recommend 500lbs at 85 kg (don't know how many pounds) and i found 600 lbs to suite me best).
but i think i'm done with propain because of the headset routing on their newer models. even if they get rid of it in the future. it's jsut not cool to pull up with that shit and shove it in everyones face with aggressive bullshit marketing. tells something about their values. RAAW madonna would be my choice nowadays. very similar geo but all about maintainability.
Would have loved to buy one of their frames last year but their service here in Europe is... Not that great. They had my money for almost two months with no updates whatsoever...
I have also have a Tyee 6 and my Chain is slapping so hard that i dont wanna ride it.
Check the derailleur clutch is functioning well, and if so then get creative with your own frame protection. Some sticky-backed velcro in the chain guide, plus VHS Slapper Tape on the chainstays and seatstays should sort that out quick.
That headset and cable routing is nasty. I won't buy a bike with it.
The aluminum version allows you to skip headset routing for conventional routing. Out of luck on the carbon version.
Aluminum chief
I’ve had 3 by now and it’s not worse. Sort of looks less messy
what do you prefer for jump: coil or air?
The word „affordable“ gets overused. You can definitely get a good alloy enduro bike for 2.5k.
BRO how is it affordable it costs like 4 k
It's all relative. In the high performance enduro space, sadly $4k is on the cheaper side.
Classed as budget nowadays.🤯
Looks like kross moon😅
Why on earth would you run cables through a headset? What a major pain in the arse to sort that out, and plastic! That alone would stop me buying the bike.
I will not buy a bike with headset routing.
yup... vote with your wallet and get rid of this "silly" thing.
This bike can be run traditionally as it has the ports very easily accessible for whichever preference people have.
@@TheLoamWolf ok you caught me. I commented before watching
Absolutely nothing in the world, will ever make me ever buy another bike with headset cable routing. It's fiddly to work on, looks awful and it's just dam right dangerous. On my Vitus it started sawing through the steerer tube of the fork. Ridiculous and unnecessary.
Thank you for sharing!
Great bikes. Unresponsive customer service.
No
"Affordable" ....
dont buy new bikes, let the industry crash even more