Dommage qu'ils n'aient pensé ce vélo que comme un 29 pouces, en mullet tu te retrouves avec une longueur de base arrière identique à la version full 29 et si tu le passes en low tu obtiens un angle de direction de 63,2 degrés donc plus orienté gravity que les modèle freeride et DH. Un paradoxe ce nouveau Tyee, tu ne trouves pas ? Ils auraient du penser chaque configuration avec une géométrie qui lui est propre à chaque fois ou bien permettre d'ajuster les bases.
Hey Remy! Just a quick question regarding the seat post: why did you shim it down to 170mm? I see there's enough space left above the seat clamp to use the full 180mm. I'm just curious what's the reason behind this. 🤓✌
@@remymetailler Oups pardon je n'avais pas vu dans le communiqué qu'il parlait du flipchip ! Bon alors c'est vraiment un enduro pour tout faire ! Dommage pour la longueur des bases non ajustable 😁😁
Color is 🔥 bike build is legit. Big fan of the E thirteen wheels they have been super reliable for me and they feel really precise compared to my stock alloy wheels.
Cool! Bon point pour le passage de câble sur le boitier de pédalier. J'ai failli tout arracher sur le mien récemment. Ce qui serait top c'est quel le nouveau triangle arrière avec le flip chip soit compatible avec le modèle précédent (et qu'il soit vendu en pièce détachée) pour pouvoir le passer en mullet!
😍😍😍😍 Ca fait trop plaisir qu'il on revue les passages de câble. C'est aussi super qu'ils aient pas augmenté le prix du vélo car qu'on en regarde les augmentation des concurrents sa fait peur. Et pour les géométrie du vélo c'est comme tu l'as dit elles sont incroyable 🤩🤩
Passed by the Propain booth at Sea Otter today, but got so hooked on looking at the bikes, I completely missed saying hi to you and thanking you for all these great and inspiring videos. Keep rockin it! Cheers from Santa Cruz!
Seat tube length is still a bit too long, 450mm on size L. I wouldn't be able to use droppers longer than 170mm. Would be nice to have a tool case in the downtube like Trek, SantaCruz and Orbea cut in. I don't like external tool mount because everything is getting covered in mud and dust. Flip chip is nice. Also, would be nice to see geometry tables for all the possible combinations. At the moment there are only recommended options on the website. Headtube cable routing is OK. I don't maintain my bikes so frequently that it could become a major problem. The best improvements are geo, fixed cables near the rear wheel and mullet options. Also, I like the fact it uses 160 fork and 210*55 shock. Theoretically I can order a frame and migrate almost every component from my current bike to the new tyee
Looking forward to purchase bike in months. Got really hooked when i can modify my own components and aesthetic on it. The price seems reasonable but I don't know.
@@LucasDunne_mtb Everytime you want to service the headset or replace the bearing you have open the brake line, cut the shifter wire and loosen the the dropper cable. you'll need a new shifter wire, bleed the rear brake and fiddle the dropper cable back in. also you'll have to service the headset a lot because you have a hole in there where water runs in.
Yes, no more brake hoses below the bottom bracket! This whole thing was weird anyways, that decision was criticised so it was changed for the spindrift but not for the tyee. One of the reasons I went with the spindrift!
....but i still miss a feature to reduce your fear of a bear :-) Nice improvements but i am relieved that there is no need to sell my 2021 Tyee as the 2023 is not a total new Tyee :-)
Its pretty much mandatory to use a coil shock on the Tree, as most reviewers say. I´we never had air shock on my Tree, but it was a no brainer to get the coil. Loving my 2020 AL and will probably never buy another bike. Its just perfect, except for the cable routings.
I have the Alu 2020 as well. Heavy and burly, perfect for a big and clumsy guy. The key point is that it pedals very well even with the coil shock, with very good middle travel support. With coil-like air shocks, with a large negative pressure chamber it works awesome too, and it is lighter. I alternate between the coil RS Super Deluxe ultimate and the air CaneCreek Double Barrel Airline and could not be happier. The down cablerouting is the only flaw in this all-rounder beast, but it takes 15 mins and a few zip ties to solve.
Previous bike was great, so of course the improvements were not going to be massive, but to me they are significant and I can really tell when riding: geometry, support, rigidity and all the little details.
Easy to hate on stuff. Having just set up the old model I see a lot of advantages here that I wish I had on the Tyee I just put together. No mess ups in my view.
@@remymetailler Oh I thought it comes in pieces 😄 That nonsense is not a pain in the a** only when building up the bike. Acros says you should regularly, whatever that means, service the headset. Then there is no tube-in-tube cable routing. Another pain in the a** if you decide to change the brakes. Hats off to all bike companies resisting that nonsense. Same as many resisted press-fit BB, another nonsense.
@@daylight31415 Or that you are biased. How many times we hear sponsored riders speak critically and publicly about the bikes of the companies who sponsor them? They only speak critically about a bike after the company releases a new version 😅
@@daylight31415 Brilliant. The problem with being sponsored is most of them are going to take your honesty away. I would be way more impressed if he talked about the bike/components with some actual constructive criticism.
I had the same question. I guess you need to remove the hose from lever when replacing HS bearing? A bit of hassle. Hose attachment isn’t design to be screw and unscrew many time. How are the seals on the HS caps? Any decent? I guess time will tell. It will be nice to have a long term review from you with tips on maintenance. Thank Rémy! Keep up the great job and Ride! 👊
Remy you ride an M with 170cm? I am 179cm with 85cm inseam length and 62,5 arm lenght. Would you recomand me an M or L in Mullet? I would use the Tyee as an Allrounder (Park/Trail/ Enduro Racing/Uphill...)🔥❤️
@@remymetailler I know, i allready did a big research. M with a 455 Reach is to short for my opinion and L a little to long. But i think L would fit better.
I am with Remy on this. XT is cheap (relatively), simple, and reliable. You can get the top of the line transmissions but I just don't feel like money spent here has a high return. It is absurdly rare that I am riding and wishing I could have shifted a bit faster or firmer. In return I get a super reliable and easy to setup drivetrain that doesn't cost near as much initially or if something does get sacrificed to a rock.
@@remymetailler yeah, the carbon versions blue is nice, indeed. but the alloy is cheaper, wich is important for me, and it really only has the three lame colors in my opinion... kinda sad.
I mean cool bike but they just basically updated to what everyone else is already doing with flip chips and mullets. I’ll never like the cables thru the headset more of a pain to service anything
@@remymetailler how is it possible to ride this low tire pressure without cushcore? 😮😍 I ride at least 22psi front and 24 psi in the back and it feels like I would chop through the tire if I’d reduce it more, even with DH-casing 🤔🤔
@@remymetailler Yeah. But for 12k you’re getting so much performance for the money as well as a high end dirt bike. Which takes 10 times the amount of engineering and machining that a mountain bike takes. I understand you’re sponsored and want to get paid. But cmon. There’s no way to justify these scummy business practices that biking manufacturers are doing. It’s wrong.
Hi Remy, could you post somewhere else apart from RUclips please? RUclips go around cancelling anyone who posts commentary that goes against their wokeass views. I'm pretty much done with them. I'd like to keep watching your content, but can't in good conscience keep watching on youtube.
Wokeass views? That sounds like a regurgitated line said by a news organization who publicly admits to lying to their viewers and has used the stupidity of their viewership arguing "no reasonable person believes what we say to be true" as the sworn-on-the-bible stated-under-oath-in-court reason they're not expected to tell the truth or be held liable in defamation cases. If your comment of "RUclips go around cancelling anyone who posts commentary that goes against their wokeass views" were true you'd already be "cancelled," your comment removed, and your account deleted just for typing that. But you're not. And that statement is not true. If being awake to people's struggles is so bad maybe you need to put yourself down for a nice long sleep?
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Dommage qu'ils n'aient pensé ce vélo que comme un 29 pouces, en mullet tu te retrouves avec une longueur de base arrière identique à la version full 29 et si tu le passes en low tu obtiens un angle de direction de 63,2 degrés donc plus orienté gravity que les modèle freeride et DH. Un paradoxe ce nouveau Tyee, tu ne trouves pas ? Ils auraient du penser chaque configuration avec une géométrie qui lui est propre à chaque fois ou bien permettre d'ajuster les bases.
Non pas du tout. Avec le flip chip tu garde une geometrie quasiment identique. Angle de chasse de 64 ou 64.5.
Propain rules, love this new blue color.
Happy for you that you love it :D
Hey Remy! Just a quick question regarding the seat post: why did you shim it down to 170mm? I see there's enough space left above the seat clamp to use the full 180mm. I'm just curious what's the reason behind this. 🤓✌
@@remymetailler Oups pardon je n'avais pas vu dans le communiqué qu'il parlait du flipchip ! Bon alors c'est vraiment un enduro pour tout faire ! Dommage pour la longueur des bases non ajustable 😁😁
im going to get a tyee 5 frame and build it up with parts from my current bike!
Nice machine for Remy! Can handle everything what you want to do…
It’s a mega bike💪🏼
Remy, you are a wild man. The new bike is beautiful and the way you ride it, makes everyone want one. ☝️
Color is 🔥 bike build is legit. Big fan of the E thirteen wheels they have been super reliable for me and they feel really precise compared to my stock alloy wheels.
Same!
Cool! Bon point pour le passage de câble sur le boitier de pédalier. J'ai failli tout arracher sur le mien récemment. Ce qui serait top c'est quel le nouveau triangle arrière avec le flip chip soit compatible avec le modèle précédent (et qu'il soit vendu en pièce détachée) pour pouvoir le passer en mullet!
Been "riding" my Ekano for just over 1K miles , Propain make great bikes .
Bravo Remy. Excellent Propain!!! Keep flying my brother.
😍😍😍😍 Ca fait trop plaisir qu'il on revue les passages de câble.
C'est aussi super qu'ils aient pas augmenté le prix du vélo car qu'on en regarde les augmentation des concurrents sa fait peur.
Et pour les géométrie du vélo c'est comme tu l'as dit elles sont incroyable 🤩🤩
Le cadre en lui même n’a pas augmenté mais dès que tu fais de la personnalisation avec le configurateur ça pique un peu quand même 😅
Nice looking bike and notice, like my Enduro that the seat is well forward, which works for me.
Passed by the Propain booth at Sea Otter today, but got so hooked on looking at the bikes, I completely missed saying hi to you and thanking you for all these great and inspiring videos. Keep rockin it! Cheers from Santa Cruz!
Great improvements, and really nice color!
Shimano you need to sponsor Remy!!! He would be a great investment for you as a product tester and ambassador.
Seat tube length is still a bit too long, 450mm on size L. I wouldn't be able to use droppers longer than 170mm.
Would be nice to have a tool case in the downtube like Trek, SantaCruz and Orbea cut in. I don't like external tool mount because everything is getting covered in mud and dust.
Flip chip is nice. Also, would be nice to see geometry tables for all the possible combinations. At the moment there are only recommended options on the website.
Headtube cable routing is OK. I don't maintain my bikes so frequently that it could become a major problem.
The best improvements are geo, fixed cables near the rear wheel and mullet options.
Also, I like the fact it uses 160 fork and 210*55 shock. Theoretically I can order a frame and migrate almost every component from my current bike to the new tyee
The seat tube is short enough I think. You should be able to fit a 180 from One Up or 210 slammed to the bottom.
That blue looks soo good
Would love me one of these sweet looking bikes! Definitely on the shortlist
New bike looks sick, love the video
I have been looking for a new rig. Even the starter AL model is decent. May have to look into it.
Nice, that bike looks awesome man. Might have to add another propain to the fleet 😅
Looking forward to purchase bike in months. Got really hooked when i can modify my own components and aesthetic on it. The price seems reasonable but I don't know.
Awesome! Make sure to use my affiliate link when you so;)
@@remymetailler❤
That bike is almost as hot as you Remy, very nice. 👌
Quand je vois la nouvelle géo de celui là j'ai hâte que le nouveau spindrift sorte !
Headsets cable routing,no thx.
same for me...
very disappointed, didn't expect propain to come around the corner with this :(
What's wrong w it?
@@LucasDunne_mtb Everytime you want to service the headset or replace the bearing you have open the brake line, cut the shifter wire and loosen the the dropper cable. you'll need a new shifter wire, bleed the rear brake and fiddle the dropper cable back in. also you'll have to service the headset a lot because you have a hole in there where water runs in.
You can get it without headset cable routing
I ❤️🔥 propain
Yes, no more brake hoses below the bottom bracket!
This whole thing was weird anyways, that decision was criticised so it was changed for the spindrift but not for the tyee.
One of the reasons I went with the spindrift!
Remy - blink twice if you don’t dig the headset cable routing! 😉
Lol
That front mud guard, is it a DVO specific or can you mount it to any fork?
It is a Mudhugger
Bike looks very good 👍
Cool bike 🤘
Thank god this wasn’t another RUclips E-bike love fest! But then, I noticed the headset cable routing🤦🏼♂️😔
Ahaha. Yes well they have got a few advantages!
@@remymetailler Thx again for all the awesome content 😎👍
....but i still miss a feature to reduce your fear of a bear :-) Nice improvements but i am relieved that there is no need to sell my 2021 Tyee as the 2023 is not a total new Tyee :-)
What the new rear suspension link like looks like the reverse pull style
Wow she’s better looking than my GF Joking a side that flip chip is going to please a lot of people that’s for sure
Are these delivered to Spain?
How much does it weigh?
Its pretty much mandatory to use a coil shock on the Tree, as most reviewers say. I´we never had air shock on my Tree, but it was a no brainer to get the coil. Loving my 2020 AL and will probably never buy another bike. Its just perfect, except for the cable routings.
I would disagree. I run ain air shock and it performs well.
The new tyee is more linear so air shock is as good AS the coil.
I have the Alu 2020 as well. Heavy and burly, perfect for a big and clumsy guy. The key point is that it pedals very well even with the coil shock, with very good middle travel support. With coil-like air shocks, with a large negative pressure chamber it works awesome too, and it is lighter. I alternate between the coil RS Super Deluxe ultimate and the air CaneCreek Double Barrel Airline and could not be happier. The down cablerouting is the only flaw in this all-rounder beast, but it takes 15 mins and a few zip ties to solve.
No big improvements. Just a mullet option and shit cable routing through the headset for the carbon version
Previous bike was great, so of course the improvements were not going to be massive, but to me they are significant and I can really tell when riding: geometry, support, rigidity and all the little details.
Easy to hate on stuff. Having just set up the old model I see a lot of advantages here that I wish I had on the Tyee I just put together. No mess ups in my view.
Do you consider to ride it with an coil shock or do you thin air is the best shock for the Tyee
You could definitely ride a coil on this bike. Maybe I will
Nice review Remy! Would be nice to know how much it weighs.
14.5 kg as it is
@@remymetailler that's really good for a full enduro bike
bonita bike para alguien experto y que la exige al máximo.
Where do you ride in these videos, Squamish Northshore area? I'm really curious because I'm doing a trip up there soon.
Squamish
Hello, do you need any spacers in the bb with the kapic ckankset?
Yes a few but they come in the boxe. Super easy to figure out once in front of you.
Headset cable routing...especially on a direct to consumer bike 🤮 And no internal frame storage 👎
Does not change much since the bikes come built up.
@@remymetailler Oh I thought it comes in pieces 😄 That nonsense is not a pain in the a** only when building up the bike. Acros says you should regularly, whatever that means, service the headset. Then there is no tube-in-tube cable routing. Another pain in the a** if you decide to change the brakes. Hats off to all bike companies resisting that nonsense. Same as many resisted press-fit BB, another nonsense.
@@remymetailler Tell me you don't work on your own bikes without telling me...
@@daylight31415 Or that you are biased. How many times we hear sponsored riders speak critically and publicly about the bikes of the companies who sponsor them? They only speak critically about a bike after the company releases a new version 😅
@@daylight31415 Brilliant.
The problem with being sponsored is most of them are going to take your honesty away. I would be way more impressed if he talked about the bike/components with some actual constructive criticism.
I'd buy it right now if it was frame + shock only :(
Soon
What are you thoughts on the headset cable routing? Fad? Big improvement? Hassle? Worth thr hassle?
Honnestly i was against it, but it looks cleaner, less noise, and not that complicated to put together.
I had the same question. I guess you need to remove the hose from lever when replacing HS bearing? A bit of hassle. Hose attachment isn’t design to be screw and unscrew many time. How are the seals on the HS caps? Any decent? I guess time will tell. It will be nice to have a long term review from you with tips on maintenance. Thank Rémy! Keep up the great job and Ride! 👊
Remy 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Hi Rémy! How many mm you got on the front? 160 or 170?
What's your opinion on your hayes brakes?
10/10
How is it the new tyee, longer or shorter than the old model?
5 mm more reach
If it's the perfect bike, then the next one can't be any better, or will be even worse :D
Remy you ride an M with 170cm? I am
179cm with 85cm inseam length and 62,5 arm lenght. Would
you recomand me an M or L in Mullet? I
would use the Tyee as an Allrounder (Park/Trail/
Enduro Racing/Uphill...)🔥❤️
You are in between two sizes
@@remymetailler I know, i allready did a big research. M with a 455 Reach is to short for my opinion and L a little to long. But i think L would fit better.
Take L with 35mm stem, i am 186cm and i will buy XL...
why did they remove the typical colours? 😠😠
New Raw video on the Tyee coming tomorrow!
Bike au top comme le rider
Lost me at internal headset cable routing.🙃
That doesn’t look like an Ibis
Are you still sponsored by Jenson USA?
Looking to do a purchase and can use a sponsor link if that helps you out.
I no longer work with them but the affiliate link is in my older videos from 2 years ago.
@@remymetailler Thanks. I'll go grab it.
Est-ce que Propain est distribué au Canada?
Oui via Propain US. t
Tu peux commander via mon lien. En cr moment Propain paye les duties (a verrifier).
why XT components?
Works well, cheaper
I am with Remy on this. XT is cheap (relatively), simple, and reliable. You can get the top of the line transmissions but I just don't feel like money spent here has a high return. It is absurdly rare that I am riding and wishing I could have shifted a bit faster or firmer. In return I get a super reliable and easy to setup drivetrain that doesn't cost near as much initially or if something does get sacrificed to a rock.
Is that a new fork/damper from dvo?
No
Oh I thought the dial looked different than usual
they really removed the propain typical mint blue version... that wouldve been a big factor for me buying a tyee, but now idrk
I liked the mint but the new colour is top notch!
@@remymetailler yeah, the carbon versions blue is nice, indeed. but the alloy is cheaper, wich is important for me, and it really only has the three lame colors in my opinion... kinda sad.
U were never buying one. tire kicker
@@OTBkid would have had the money in 3 Months🤓 but ay how nice you are
@@nigut10 wat did u get instead?
Headset cable routing 😩 another brand off my list for next bike. No sale. Shame.
The Cable Tourism upsets me
I mean cool bike but they just basically updated to what everyone else is already doing with flip chips and mullets. I’ll never like the cables thru the headset more of a pain to service anything
Do you still ride with cushcores? 😉
I never did
@@remymetailler how is it possible to ride this low tire pressure without cushcore? 😮😍 I ride at least 22psi front and 24 psi in the back and it feels like I would chop through the tire if I’d reduce it more, even with DH-casing 🤔🤔
Lose a bit of weight then 😊
Headset cable routing hhhhhh
No mtb rider wants this....
Say it louder for the bike companies in the back.
Looks like a sentinel
malade
Rémy est il possible de t'envoyer un message privé ? Je compte prendre exactement ce model mais jai des questions qui persiste merci d'avance 👌🏻✊🏻
Oui sur Instagram @remymetailler
Fait 👌🏻
He really said a $3500 bike is affordable 😂 let’s not kid ourselves. These prices are scams.
Cheaper than most of the competition... prices have gone up for everything. A new dirtbike was 7 000usd not long ago. 12 000 usd now.
@@remymetailler Yeah. But for 12k you’re getting so much performance for the money as well as a high end dirt bike. Which takes 10 times the amount of engineering and machining that a mountain bike takes. I understand you’re sponsored and want to get paid. But cmon. There’s no way to justify these scummy business practices that biking manufacturers are doing. It’s wrong.
avec le nombre de vélos que t as tu veux pas m en donner un ? ;)
Hi Remy, could you post somewhere else apart from RUclips please? RUclips go around cancelling anyone who posts commentary that goes against their wokeass views. I'm pretty much done with them. I'd like to keep watching your content, but can't in good conscience keep watching on youtube.
Wokeass views? That sounds like a regurgitated line said by a news organization who publicly admits to lying to their viewers and has used the stupidity of their viewership arguing "no reasonable person believes what we say to be true" as the sworn-on-the-bible stated-under-oath-in-court reason they're not expected to tell the truth or be held liable in defamation cases.
If your comment of "RUclips go around cancelling anyone who posts commentary that goes against their wokeass views" were true you'd already be "cancelled," your comment removed, and your account deleted just for typing that. But you're not. And that statement is not true.
If being awake to people's struggles is so bad maybe you need to put yourself down for a nice long sleep?
Salut Rémy, pour info, ton code promo chez Mudhugger ne fonctionne plus.
Edit: ce n'est pas grave, ils ne livrent pas/plus en France de toute façon :)