They addressed it in another video. Their mic didn't get picked up and so this is the only audio recording that they have. They could've tried to fake everything again, but would you prefer that?
Annihilation was such a pretentious, plothole filled, artsy shittfest, the only good thing was the bear, sorry! Edit: I mean, the countless situations someone walk into an obvious killspot, it's like a stupid teenyslasher or the not so deadly sharkalligator! Come on!
This might've been one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The beginning was good but it just got progressively worse. The acting was good, just the story and "horror" wasn't there for me. Like it became more funny than scary after the first 30ish minutes
The entity haunting her is actually called "The Green Man". It is an ancient nature spirit which represents growth and rebirth. The movie even has multiple shots of a Green Man face carving at the chapel in the town.
The whole scene where she’s getting chased and the hand reaches through the door and she stabs it was fucking mesmerizing. The camera work and music with it was hauntingly beautiful. Love the low shots looking upwards.
Someone has probably already said this, but the pagan thing on the font and the man in the tunnel who starts growing trees out of his face, are the same thing. He’s a pagan symbol of rebirth / renewing. Through that lens, the film is saying she needs to confront all the different elements of the toxic relationship she was trapped in (her not being able to leave the house as a metaphor for that) and the horror of her guilt. The gross rebirth bit is her peeling away all the different aspects of his character until she is just left with him. That’s why, at the end, she’s outside the house - she’s dealt with it and moved on, or is re-born and renewed. Probably.
True story... My friend ex-wife was a psycho. She acted nice until the day after they got married. She would accuse him of cheating on her everyday if he's not home right after work. She would threaten to kill him or scold him with boiling water in his sleep. She was my friend for over 20 years and I never saw knew how psycho she was. I'm glad I never dated her.
Women are all one moment away from breaking psychologically. This is why they have trouble sustaining longterm, meaningful relationships. Be that friendships or romantically .
@@rasengdori13 Except they're right and you're wrong. Snowflake as in 'you're not special and the world doesn't revolve around you', not 'you're thin-skinned'.
Conversely, I've noticed that the concept for the upcoming They/Them movie isn't well beloved, but people are all agreeing that the title is pretty clever when read as They SLASH Them.
As late as the 17th century, the word "apple" also functioned as a generic term for all fruit other than berries but including nuts-such as the 14th century Middle English word "appel of paradis", meaning a banana. This use is analogous to the French language use of "pomme". The origin of the popular identification with a fruit unknown in the Middle East in biblical times is found in confusion between the Latin words mālum (an apple) and mălum (an evil), each of which is normally written malum.
Sometimes when i get home from a long ass day at work, i want to watch something simple that i dont have to think about too hard. This movie is the exact opposite. Take it as you will
The beginning scene showing him seeing her and her seeing him. It's almost like he's finally seeing her trapped inside. His abusive "love" for her is trapping her and holding her. The men in Colton do this same thing to her. The Green Man chases her back into the home. The boy tells her to "hide", the vicker tells her his death is her fault. All this time she rejects the insinuation of guilt, she wants to get away from it, but the men keep forcing the guilt on her, much like her husband tried to do threatening suicide. Forcing her inside, forcing her to harm them, "look at what you've done to me". As she tries to leave, Goffrey chases her back on the grounds. The many rebirths (which is what the Green Man represents) chase her back inside. Until finally she can confront her trauma and at the end she is no longer in the house. She is sitting outside, finally free from torment and ready to start anew. In a way I wonder if the "Green Man" form was trying to aid her in a way, to push her to grow, but I'm unsure. Either way I quite enjoyed the film.
All the men in the village of Colton are an amalgamation of her husband. Hence, the "Russian Doll" effect at the end - until the husband finally "comes out." The wounds on the Men are the same as the wounds on the husband when she finds him at the bottom of the building. The broken right ankle, the impaled left hand... all except for the head wound. When the husband sits on the sofa he doesn't have a head wound. When Harper picks up the hatchet it is implied that she will "bury the hatchet" in order to move on. On the font, the Green Man and Sheela na gig are both symbols of fertility. Sheela na gig is also a warning against lust. Incidentally, Sheela na gig is of Celtic descent - possibly the reason why Harper had an Irish accent. However, none of the film makes any sense and the final act is bat-sh!t crazy.
That was one of those movies that i kept thinking "This is fuckin weird, i'm gonna turn it off." Next thing i know the movie was ending, i hadn't blinked for like 15-20 minutes and i was still in the same spot i was in when i had decided i was going to turn it off.😅 It wasn't bad but it wasn't great either, i was more or less telling myself at the beginning of it "they're just robots" and by the end it was more like "That dude has got some issues, i hope she fucks him up.... But maybe don't let her escape?" It's been so long since i watched it that i couldn't explain what happens throughout, i just remember how i felt by the end and it wasn't something i wanted to put back on again but i also don't exactly regret seeing it the first time.🤷♂️ 😄👍
Ex Machina is one of the greatest movies of all time. Even watching it a few times you pick up on little hints and stuff that weave the narrative together.
That's just AJ's personal final score. We all know that, he gives the score based on what he himself thinks of whatever game or movie. The other 2 do give their own opinion and thoughts, it's just not in big bold white text for u to see it because u can very easily do the math yourself.
Or you could just take the scores they give and do that yourself. They dont really gain anything from averaging 3 different people's scores when they could have wildly different opinions on something
I mean, it's well known by everyone that Christmas is not Jesus's birth, lol. It came from Catholics, and then other Christian groups went with it. But yes, a lot of the things Catholics did was to use pagan holidays/etc and incorporate them - a bit reason for that is controlling the narrative. Catholics were all about power, they were the power behind kings. The term "Christian" is too broad, people use the word as if they are all the same, but a Catholic, Jehova's Witness, Mormon, Baptist, etc all use the same word...but have almost nothing in common.
@@kennylaysh2776 if only they taught that in school, kid's would have an urge to learn through the lies that manipulated instead of being taught right and wrong through what can be founded as fiction
For me, the cinematography and actors were on point, but the movie doesn't do a good job conveying its narrative and themes by the end. It mostly comes off as pretentious
@Im King i dont wanna speak for him like i actually know but i wouldnt think a pretentious movie comes off as generally good. I really wanna see it for myself on an illicitly shared hulu account to find out myself.
The number 1 worst movie i have ever scene. 0 sense , gore for the sake of gore , and the last 20 minutes were pure crazy goreporn...8/10? Jesus Christ are you well at your minds? Probably not ...i know i am not anymore well at my mind after seeing this...i will NEVER trust your reviews again...
@@roni2971 hours later. After I came out of the theatre I had a negative opinion on it but I couldn’t stop thinking about it. Like I started to think more and more, trying to understand and then it kinda clicked for me. But I still don’t get 80% of it. It’s a weird fixation on something that I don’t really enjoy? Idk how to explain it. For LAMB, I came out of the theatre enjoying it but not understanding. For MEN, I didn’t like it, nor understand but I like it now lolol TLDR: I hate that I don’t understand anything but enjoy everything
@@desOOOm I understand both and both films you mentioned are horrible. A movie that trumps them both that I can’t recommend highly enough that actually showcases excellent cinema is called “Mother!”. It is a high brow, abstract art house film done incredibly well.
@@irarelyupload6930 no they fucking don’t-there are films like The Spine of Night that are a callback to rotoscoping films from the likes of Ralph bakshi-I get fucking tired of people saying “every films is political and/or has an agenda” which is not true whatsoever.
I don't even want to watch trailers of today's movies. There are so many spoilers. Also most of them have the best parts of the movies on the spoilers so you would think they are good movies but when you watch it the only good parts are all on the trailers and the rest of the movie is not good. I just ask someone who has the same taste as me when it come to movies and tv series who already watch it if it's good or bad. I'll watch it if they say it's passable or not a waste of time.
@@KWPZ21 eh, I think the spoiler talk only really applies to Marvel movies, and to a lesser extent comic book movies in general. Even the Star Wars trailers were pretty vague with what the stories was (although we come to find out the ST really had no story...) or Alita from a few years ago, unless you were a fan of the anime, the trailers really didn't encompass the full story. The trailer for Nope, all we can really gauge is it's an alien story (maybe)
@@thecunninlynguist It applies to horror movies also. That's where I first watch a trailer thinking the movies is good because of the trailer but when I watched it all the good scenes are all on the trailer which is a few. It turns out that movie is not good. Also the Fast and the Furious trailer revealing that Han is alive is a violation. You're not supposed to reveal major spoilers on a trailer.
Annihilation's one of my favorite movies in years. Because sometimes I like a movie to explore deep themes...but I might also want to see a GatorShark.
Everyone at my screening just kind of sat there in shock as the final credits rolled. I've just been watching online reviews to gauge how they felt because I still can't really explain what I just watched this weekend.
THIS THIS THIS! Me and my Mrs literally sat for about 10 minutes in silence as we really had no idea what to say! I honestly don't know how I feel about the film, but it's certainly made us think!
The ending sucked. It just fizzles out as a nightmare while distracting you with some random gross shit. It was promising and engaging until it sucked.
The whole film is a metaphor for toxic and abusive relationships. The scene with the constant “rebirths” is metaphorical for your spouse constantly saying they’re a new person, that they’ve changed, but always end up the same person they was before. Her seeing her spouse at the end was acceptance for moving on. The visuals of the rippling and echoes is metaphorical for how your voice can carry weight. Her singing in the tunnel causing droplets to fall from the ceiling and crash into the puddle causing ripples. Her voice echoing during moments of impact. She tells her lover that she don’t care if he kills himself to leave her alone. That cause and effect of her words leads to his death. When she’s in the tunnel it’s metaphorical for seeing light at the end of the tunnel but being held back from it(the man blocking the exit) and running back into a wall(the locked door at the other tunnel entrance). It’s a metaphor for toxic relationships where the spouse feels trapped and their partner won’t let them leave. This is everything I gathered from my viewing.
Also the hand reaching through the door for acceptance/forgiveness and her taking his hand and feeling immediate pain is obviously a metaphor for spouses who take their spouses back after abuse only to have the pain happen again.
@Esar moh Yeah this film isn’t going to be for everybody. The casual audience will hate this movie like they do most A24 films. I thought about that last night as I sat in a half filled theater, a lot of them shut their brains off and watch films at face value.
The idea that Christmas has been chosen because Yule was already celebrated in December is such a stupid myth. Christmas has been celebrated in December since 4th century, 400-500 years earlier than the Germanic people were even converted to Christianity. What happened in Northern Europe like in most other places is that older customs were taken and added to the new Christian holidays. How they chose 25 December is complicated and controversial, they were debating when Jesus was born since the 3rd century... and it's pretty likely that actually they first established when the Annunciation was (middle of March) and then added 9 Months for the birth. Just because Saxons slapped some pagan customs to Christmas doesn't mean it's the same in Southern and Eastern Europe or in Asia... We actually have no idea when Jesus was born.
Imagine releasing a film called "women" that shows nothing but the most toxic behavior of the worst women. When are we going to get to a point where people figure out that it's not okay to make sweeping negative generalizations about men, white people etc? It's just hypocritical. I would never generalize women, black people or whoever in such a way, so why is it okay to do it to me? The concept of punching up is applied in a very flawed manner. You aren't justified in bigotry just because you think you have picked the "right targets".
Generalisation of the people you mentioned, black people, women, etc... These generalisations were super common for the biggest part of cinema history. You're being wether yourself hypocritical or just too shortsighted to recognize we are, at most, seeing a balancing in the industry.
It’s our turn. It was ok to do this to women/minorities for decades. Now it’s happening to us. My Sicilian great grandparents were battered and scrutinized and treated like dogs when they first came to the states. It’s just how this country is.. there’s always gotta be a bag to beat on.
Everything i expected from alex garland great atmosphere great shots great sfx great soundtrack great directing great acting and a wtf ending lmao loved it
Same he might be my fav director working right now. Yeah Men wasn't as good as Annihilation (one of th best sci fi movies in years, you dont know nothing Alex) and Ex Machina, but it was still cool.
This movie should have been called toxic or something like that the fact the it kinda implies men would do these terrible things is kinda messed up both genders equally do some of these nasty things the movie is overall decent but the title eh..
Saw this and really liked it until the end. Then I was just confused but I think I didn’t get it. After looking up what the end meant I feel like I gotta see it again cause I’m still thinking about it
I haven't seen the movie, but based on their description, it sounds to me like with just a little bit of tweaking and tightening up the end, this could have been an extremely good Silent Hill movie.
@@RayzaNC A mysterious kind of purgatory that forces someone to metaphorically and literally face their demons portrayed as grotesque monsters? Sounds pretty Silent Hill to me. Like I said, it would need some tweaking, but most of the major beats are there.
A24 has some good movies, but lately, they've become more and more pretentious. They butchered the spirit of The Green Knight, so I'm not surprised that the overcooked art house trend continues.
@@jordankirkland133 The story of modern cinema. Too many hack writers taking great existing works and perverting it with their terrible vision due to their ego.
Haven’t watched the review yet but did sit through this monstrosity. One thing I will say is the acting was outstanding, and then ending was ridiculous and weird and NOT in a good way
I'm hearing/seeing a lot of movie reviews showing how both men and women can be bad people. Would it just be easier/correct to say that humans in general can be terrible beings?
@@BreezeOTM that’s not the problem. It was the execution of the climax of the film. Poorly done, didn’t really explain anything at all, and was just weird. Not midsommar weird, but like weird as I’m NOT in a good way
The movie left me feeling pretty raw. I understood the ending and what it was getting at, in that all of those men really just boiled down to reminders of her trauma with her husband. But I do understand that it would fly over most people's heads because it's graphic and over the top. Also what I notice a lot of people miss (perhaps intentionally) is that the movie doesn't try to imply that men don't suffer at all. It can be interpreted multiple ways.
Yeah, in some ways the creature was trying to court her and maybe win her empathy or pity at the end. He was grovelling pathetically in unbelievable desperation. I do wonder if the transformation into the ex boyfriend was a final attempt at stirring her emotions. The movie can be interpreted from a masculine perspective as well.
It kinda irritates how people over hype these new A24 films and the films are 7 times out of 10 GARBAGE!!!!! Complete trash! The same way they over hyped X and that film was the worst film I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Something’s wrong with the new cinema of today
SPOILER ALERT‼️🚨 HORRIBLE movie becuz it HAS NO POINT. Its trying to be weird just to be weird. No point. Agree it was done well, good acting etc yet once I realized everyone ………………………………………was the same person (I lost interest) Then the birth scenes (4/5 dudes giving birth - the woke’s wet dream) PLULEEZE 🤮🙄 (FAST FORWARD was made for this), drags on and on goes NO where. NO wheresville. EX MACHINA was fantastic a story a point an objective an ending.
All you had to do is call it “A Man”, not “Men”. To paint all men in this terrible light because she has bad taste in men is ridiculous. Which is a shame because the cinematography and acting were pretty great. Had potential but the message was garbage and too many scenes dragged on way too long
A lot of Americans tend not to get the more British style of horror films. I think Joe gets it. :-) But you all rock and so thank you for your review. :-)
I let the movie sit for about two days now and I’ve definitely grown to like it more. I still believe the ending was a bit excessive. I get it’s point but it kind of takes away from the message, BUT I really respect Alex Garland for having the balls to do it. Knowing this is a worldwide release makes the ending so wild to me. Thought mother! was a wild movie to see in theaters but this definitely topped it. I loved everything besides that minor complaint. Can’t say I’d recommend it to everybody but I feel like most people should at least see it to know why it’s so insane. Pretty great movie.
This movie was fucking horrible, people saying its great cause its weird and unique. I can film my harry bellybutton and thats weird and unique doesnt make it good. Whoever thought up this shit needs to be removed from society in a padded room.
Considering "that" scene I could say with a lot of confidence that this movie has its head waaaaaaaaaay up it's own @ss, when did Alex Garland become Darren Aronofsky.
If it's just vague and abstract with little in the way of breadcrumbs ? I'd have to be in a very specific state of mind, to potentially grasp stuff like that. But if I get the sense (and if the movie is good enough to warrant)that one more time might have the penny drop ? I'm interested.
Garland himself said there's no overarching story here, it's all left deliberately vague, so the audience can each decide for themselves what's happening. It's "vague and abstract with no breadcrumbs" by design.
we are running out of dictionary i guess lol. Maybe we should have 40k style titles, where its 2 or 3 subtitles lol. Haiku titles would be rad. By rad i mean gey
So now we know they review in bulk, this was recorded on the same session as the halo tv show review, interesting, they rly go full on those sessions, same audio on this one, its not bad, it just seems they forgot to turn the mics on and recorded with a cam mic
While I have respect for Alex’s opinions and understanding of religion, I don’t think he is as familiar with the reason for Christmas’ 25 December date as he lets on. There are only three candidate gods in the Roman pagan pantheon that could be considered potential celebrants for 25 December: Saturn, Sol Invictus (Unconquered Sun), and Mithras. Saturnalia originally celebrated on December 17. Eventually the feast was extended to last an entire week, ending on December 23 . This can be found repeatedly on the Internet. In “Saturnalia: The Reason We Celebrate Christmas in December”, columnist Mark Whittington explains his theory, that Christians in the 4th Century assigned December 25th as Christ’s birthday (and hence Christmas) because pagans already observed it as a holiday. His theory was that making Christianization of the population easier because it would force paganism to be sidestepped as a celebration. However, if Whittington was correct, it is expected to find at least one reference by early Christians to support it. Instead, we find a multitude of quotations from Church Fathers expressing a desire to distance themselves from paganism. Next is Sol Invictur and Mithras. The feast of Sol Invictus was the attempt by the Roman emperor Aurelian to reform the cult of the Roman sun god and reintroduce it to his people. Problematically, this festival not annual, it also cannot be historically documented as having been established on December 25 by Aurelian. Some historical evidence suggests that Mithraists believed that Mithras and Sol were of the same god in two different forms, while others claim they are two gods united as one. It’s hard to say for sure because we don’t have a lot of historical info about the Mithraic belief system, but the evidence available explains why skeptics claim the birthday of Mithras was celebrated on December 25. Another problem for skeptics is the lack of exists suggesting Aurelian was a Mithraist, or that he even had Mithraism in mind when he instituted the feast of Sol Invictus. The connection of Mithra to December 25 has only proven to be coincidental. Further, the deathblow to the Mithras/Sol Invictus parallels is that the fact that the Chronography of 354 is the earliest mention of any pagan god being celebrated on December 25. The celebration of the birth of Christ by Christians is also mentioned on the same calendar, which diminishes the likelihood that the pagan feast came first. As for the reason for choosing December 25 - although the exact date of Christ’s birth is not present in the bible, there is documented evidence that December 25 was already of significant to Christians prior to A.D. 354. One example is in the writings of Hyppolytus of Rome, who explains in his Commentary on the book of Daniel (c. A.D. 204) that the Lord’s birth was believed to have occurred on that day: “For the first advent of our Lord in the flesh, when he was born in Bethlehem, was December 25th, Wednesday, while Augustus was in his forty-second year, but from Adam, five thousand and five hundred years. He suffered in the thirty-third year, March 25th, Friday, the eighteenth year of Tiberius Caesar, while Rufus and Roubellion were Consuls.” As surprising as it might sound, he explains that Christians believed Jesus was born nine months after the anniversary of Creation. According to his calculations, the world was created on the vernal equinox, March 25, which would mean Jesus was born nine months later, on December 25. Nineteenth-century liturgical scholar Louis Duchesne explains that “towards the end of the third century the custom of celebrating the birthday of Christ had spread throughout the whole Church, but that it was not observed everywhere on the same day” (Christian Worship, Its Origin and Evolution: a study of the Latin liturgy up to the time of Charlemagne, p. 260). In the West, the birth of Christ was celebrated on December 25, and in the East on January 6. Given the great aversion on the part of some Christians to anything pagan, the logical conclusion here is that one celebration has nothing to do with the other. In his book, Spirit of the Liturgy, Benedict XVI explains: “The claim used to be made that December 25 developed… as a Christian response to the cult of the unconquered sun…. however, these old theories can no longer be sustained. The decisive factor was the connection of creation and Cross, of creation and Christ’s conception (p. 105-107).” While these explanations of how December 25 came to be the date of Christmas are all plausible, we know one thing with certainty - evidence that December 25th held a special significance to Christians predates the any proof of a supposed celebration of Sol Invictus or other pagan deities on that day. That the Christians chose a date so close to the winter solstice is also not proof that this was done to mimic pagan festivals. The various pagan religions all had festivals spanning the calendar. Whatever month the early Christians might have otherwise chosen would still place Christmas near some pagan celebration, and oppositional theorists would still be making the same claims. The solstice was important to everyone for agricultural reasons in the same way water is important to the survival of human beings, and so we see rituals involving water showing up in various religions. That doesn’t prove that one borrowed the idea or theme from another. As for the movie, it is clearly extremist man-hating propaganda. It is highly artistic propaganda. It is still propaganda.
Why does the one guy on the right speak dominate over the other two❓ The 2 or at least the one have better opinions. Are all these guy the same person❓. Hey guy on right. … take a breather
From what I hear from people who have been in toxic relationship and marraiges is how hard it is to stop it from happening. Sure, you can say that they should just walk away but it is often not that easy. It has a lot to do with psychological maipulation and just power over the abused person that makes it so hard for them.
Absolute BS. If there was a kid in the picture, then you are correct, because you can't just abandon your kids. But the situation the main character was in is something you can absolutely walk away from, as soon as you recognize the abuse.
@@thehaloofthesun7174 I have read multiple accounts of victims in toxic relationships who had no children and could not leave even though they were incredibly abused. Children make it even harder but they are not the only reason that would cause it.
@@johnoneil9188 Yes, and it's illogical. I suspect, such people do not love themselves, so being alone, and risking remaining alone or finding only someone worse, is what keeps them in the relationship. There is no real, tangible reason holding them there, it's all self esteem issues.
@@thehaloofthesun7174 The nature of abusive relationships is that a) the abuser manipulates you to make you think you're extremely flawed to the point of being undeserving of respect, and that b) no one will believe you or support you should you leave them, so you think you'll have nowhere to go. And honestly, it's attitudes like yours that keep people from talking about their abuse. Maybe that's why you have that stance, because abused people don't talk to you.
@@Leuka_ Nice try, but I know quite a few victims of abusive relationships, some of them even in my own family. Oddly enough, they will confide in you very easily. The advice I gave, and that I saw given when I was a kid, is to fuck off of that relationship. It worked most of the time. When they didn't leave the relationship, it turned out there were ulterior motives for remaining in the relationship. There is also one family friend that I know is in the relationship due to having a submission fetish. Like I said, the people who remain, tend to want to remain, and it's not something you nor I will ever really understand, because it's a personality trait. It doesn't need to make sense. You can read about the research on this. A lot of people will remain even after professional help, and it seems to be very difficult to get certain people with certain personality traits out of these situations.
I didn’t think much of the title, & by watching it I didn’t think it came across as any overt/pushy narrative piece. Just kind of hard to understand & then the end is absolutely insane. I enjoyed it & ultimately I had to look up what this movie meant b/c I was so confused!!
You guys gotta watch “Devs.” By the same writer and director as ex machina, streaming on FX/Hulu still I think. It’s about 8 episodes long. Alex Garland
Did you guys record this in the MEN's room?
They addressed it in another video. Their mic didn't get picked up and so this is the only audio recording that they have. They could've tried to fake everything again, but would you prefer that?
Come on MAN
Lmao
Immersion is everything
@@TaddiestMason Chill. It's a joke!
Guys, you are NOT ready for the ending. It's impossible to sit there, watch, & not want to throw up/leave. What a nutty fucking movie
I feel like with the title they were trying to bait outrage, but I haven't actually seen anyone talking about it.
People are crying about the title all over the internet and in these comments too lol it looks like it worked
Completely disagree with Alex about the ending of Annihilation. One of my favorite finals acts of the last 5 years
If it has just been a normal monster, he would be complaining too. Alex seems like one of those people that are impossible to please.
Cuz ur 2
@The Second Son’s funny I agree with Alex 80 percent of the time but to each their own
@@sissyphussartre2907 Agreed and he also said the story from Ghost of Tsushima is like watching a James Bond movie .
Annihilation was such a pretentious, plothole filled, artsy shittfest, the only good thing was the bear, sorry!
Edit: I mean, the countless situations someone walk into an obvious killspot, it's like a stupid teenyslasher or the not so deadly sharkalligator! Come on!
This might've been one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The beginning was good but it just got progressively worse. The acting was good, just the story and "horror" wasn't there for me. Like it became more funny than scary after the first 30ish minutes
God that name is hilarious.
Maybe on Earth 2 there's an Angry Alex review of "Women" where Joe complains about how Predictable it is.
I liked Patrick Stewarts review of this movie: "I quickly tried to leave the theater, but it was too late. I've seen everything. I saw it all."
The entity haunting her is actually called "The Green Man". It is an ancient nature spirit which represents growth and rebirth. The movie even has multiple shots of a Green Man face carving at the chapel in the town.
Damn Charlie really went off the deep end.
@@fftydgh7769lol, Green Man!
Aww man...I scrolled down by mistake and BAM, fucking spoiler. Come on. 😂
@@richgranados11 ahhhh hello my fellow man of culture.
@@Mellypepper Not a spoiler. It is in the trailer.
The whole scene where she’s getting chased and the hand reaches through the door and she stabs it was fucking mesmerizing. The camera work and music with it was hauntingly beautiful. Love the low shots looking upwards.
Where can you watch this
@@damnedisraeli9383 theaters my boy
@@masonechternkamp578 not where I’m at
@@damnedisraeli9383 Nooooo :(
It free on line thank god. It’s great if u like to c men Giving birth 4/5 times, no story, no plot, no ending.
They should make a movie called "Women" about Amber Heard and Apolecia Smith.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
That’s not very woke of you, sir
Broooo lol
Exactly, this was my first thought seeing all the comments about “generational toxic masculinity etc”. Being a doucheBag is applicable to any pronoun
I lost it at Alopecia Smith lol!!
Someone has probably already said this, but the pagan thing on the font and the man in the tunnel who starts growing trees out of his face, are the same thing. He’s a pagan symbol of rebirth / renewing. Through that lens, the film is saying she needs to confront all the different elements of the toxic relationship she was trapped in (her not being able to leave the house as a metaphor for that) and the horror of her guilt. The gross rebirth bit is her peeling away all the different aspects of his character until she is just left with him. That’s why, at the end, she’s outside the house - she’s dealt with it and moved on, or is re-born and renewed. Probably.
I have been watching the horror show, "WOMEN". It's a good horror. It's been going on for a couple of weeks now. Hopefully Johnny Depp wins.
Username checks out.
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@@Leuka_ Did the joke offend you?
@@F34RDSoldier805 no, your comment was just dimwitted to be honest
@@Leuka_ LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
I'm rdy for the sequel 'Women'
Hopefully inspired by Amber Heard.
Actually made me spit out my drink giggling, funny but not funny. 😅
Ex machina is lowkey a “Women” movie
Cope harder
...and Alopecia Smith.
True story...
My friend ex-wife was a psycho. She acted nice until the day after they got married. She would accuse him of cheating on her everyday if he's not home right after work. She would threaten to kill him or scold him with boiling water in his sleep. She was my friend for over 20 years and I never saw knew how psycho she was. I'm glad I never dated her.
That's exactly my ex wife
Women are all one moment away from breaking psychologically. This is why they have trouble sustaining longterm, meaningful relationships. Be that friendships or romantically .
The title alone makes it sound like cancerous twitter garbage but who knows the movie could be good
It's not good whatsoever , just hates on men basically the entire film
^ found the snowflakes
They address this mere minutes into the review you're watching, bub.
@@12xenn45 woah someone sounds triggered! go back to your safe space! XD
@@rasengdori13 Except they're right and you're wrong. Snowflake as in 'you're not special and the world doesn't revolve around you', not 'you're thin-skinned'.
The movies title is literally called "Men". Like that already is not going to cause some controversy in our modern political climate.
Yeah lmao. Imagine all the snowflakes who are gonna whine about it. "Can't believe duh ess Jay dubyas!!!1!"
Can’t even put brown ppl or women in many roles without incels losing their minds, might as well just do a movie about them.
@@Ziggykitty666 can you just build strawman or actually confront the arguments given
Good job it's wasn't called WOMEN.
otherwise nobody could define what this movie was about.
Conversely, I've noticed that the concept for the upcoming They/Them movie isn't well beloved, but people are all agreeing that the title is pretty clever when read as They SLASH Them.
As late as the 17th century, the word "apple" also functioned as a generic term for all fruit other than berries but including nuts-such as the 14th century Middle English word "appel of paradis", meaning a banana. This use is analogous to the French language use of "pomme".
The origin of the popular identification with a fruit unknown in the Middle East in biblical times is found in confusion between the Latin words mālum (an apple) and mălum (an evil), each of which is normally written malum.
The audio is explained in the beginning of the Halo review. You can stop commenting about it now.
You guys really need to watch Ex-Machina. My favorite film of his, and one of the best sci-fi films of the last decade EASY. Please review it.
it's really not that good
I felt like it was more like a movie about a simp , that simped so hard that he eventually became a murder.
Sometimes when i get home from a long ass day at work, i want to watch something simple that i dont have to think about too hard. This movie is the exact opposite. Take it as you will
I take it as you being a casual. Not a bad thing, you just watch movies to relax and not because it’s your passion.
The sequel will be called women.
Or Mens
We men
And then “They/ Them”
@Brian Babin Try not to shoot up a school or grocery store incel.
What about the third films
The beginning scene showing him seeing her and her seeing him. It's almost like he's finally seeing her trapped inside. His abusive "love" for her is trapping her and holding her. The men in Colton do this same thing to her. The Green Man chases her back into the home. The boy tells her to "hide", the vicker tells her his death is her fault. All this time she rejects the insinuation of guilt, she wants to get away from it, but the men keep forcing the guilt on her, much like her husband tried to do threatening suicide. Forcing her inside, forcing her to harm them, "look at what you've done to me". As she tries to leave, Goffrey chases her back on the grounds. The many rebirths (which is what the Green Man represents) chase her back inside. Until finally she can confront her trauma and at the end she is no longer in the house. She is sitting outside, finally free from torment and ready to start anew.
In a way I wonder if the "Green Man" form was trying to aid her in a way, to push her to grow, but I'm unsure. Either way I quite enjoyed the film.
All the men in the village of Colton are an amalgamation of her husband. Hence, the "Russian Doll" effect at the end - until the husband finally "comes out." The wounds on the Men are the same as the wounds on the husband when she finds him at the bottom of the building. The broken right ankle, the impaled left hand... all except for the head wound. When the husband sits on the sofa he doesn't have a head wound. When Harper picks up the hatchet it is implied that she will "bury the hatchet" in order to move on.
On the font, the Green Man and Sheela na gig are both symbols of fertility. Sheela na gig is also a warning against lust. Incidentally, Sheela na gig is of Celtic descent - possibly the reason why Harper had an Irish accent.
However, none of the film makes any sense and the final act is bat-sh!t crazy.
Highly recommend Ex Machina, would be great to see your guy's review on it.
That was one of those movies that i kept thinking "This is fuckin weird, i'm gonna turn it off." Next thing i know the movie was ending, i hadn't blinked for like 15-20 minutes and i was still in the same spot i was in when i had decided i was going to turn it off.😅
It wasn't bad but it wasn't great either, i was more or less telling myself at the beginning of it "they're just robots" and by the end it was more like "That dude has got some issues, i hope she fucks him up.... But maybe don't let her escape?" It's been so long since i watched it that i couldn't explain what happens throughout, i just remember how i felt by the end and it wasn't something i wanted to put back on again but i also don't exactly regret seeing it the first time.🤷♂️
😄👍
Ex Machina is one of the greatest movies of all time. Even watching it a few times you pick up on little hints and stuff that weave the narrative together.
Great review. Glad you guys do these types of films as well. Jessie Buckley and Rory Kinnear were amazing in this!
Come on guys. Start adding your scores/3 for your "final verdict". I want OJ and Alex's thoughts to matter into that final score!
I agree. Just put their score under AJ score at end is good.
Its called the angry joe show not angry everyone show
Why bother having the other two talk at all then? Well, they are all part of the AJS are they not?
That's just AJ's personal final score. We all know that, he gives the score based on what he himself thinks of whatever game or movie. The other 2 do give their own opinion and thoughts, it's just not in big bold white text for u to see it because u can very easily do the math yourself.
Or you could just take the scores they give and do that yourself. They dont really gain anything from averaging 3 different people's scores when they could have wildly different opinions on something
The sequel "Women" was way scarier
With main “star” amber turd
I don't know... I really didn't get it.
@@bloatedbehemoth1979 goddamn that's even more terrifying
3rd movie will be " binary" but its not about the code or is it.
@@stark5679 then they reboot the series to "Attack Helicopters" true identities revealed
You guys sold me with this movie,especially hearing the spoilers…yeah I gotta see this 😂😅
It’s nuts.
Save your money and time
I hope you didn't do it because it's garbage
@@craigsmart1986 cap
@@seriousnecro yes save your money if you’re a child that hates to be bothered to think when you watch a movie. A Pixar movie is more your speed.
It was intriguing for 80% of the movie but it went nowhere and just became laughable by the end
💯% No whereville
Alex's religious connections he was able to make was impressive, but when he brought up Christmas I was crying laughing
I mean, it's well known by everyone that Christmas is not Jesus's birth, lol. It came from Catholics, and then other Christian groups went with it. But yes, a lot of the things Catholics did was to use pagan holidays/etc and incorporate them - a bit reason for that is controlling the narrative. Catholics were all about power, they were the power behind kings. The term "Christian" is too broad, people use the word as if they are all the same, but a Catholic, Jehova's Witness, Mormon, Baptist, etc all use the same word...but have almost nothing in common.
@@kennylaysh2776 if only they taught that in school, kid's would have an urge to learn through the lies that manipulated instead of being taught right and wrong through what can be founded as fiction
For me, the cinematography and actors were on point, but the movie doesn't do a good job conveying its narrative and themes by the end. It mostly comes off as pretentious
So do you think it was overall good?
@Im King i dont wanna speak for him like i actually know but i wouldnt think a pretentious movie comes off as generally good. I really wanna see it for myself on an illicitly shared hulu account to find out myself.
Alex Garland in a nutshell?
This movie was shallow and pedantic.
The number 1 worst movie i have ever scene. 0 sense , gore for the sake of gore , and the last 20 minutes were pure crazy goreporn...8/10? Jesus Christ are you well at your minds? Probably not ...i know i am not anymore well at my mind after seeing this...i will NEVER trust your reviews again...
me at the front counter
Hi, I'm here for Men.
No I mean I'm here to see men.
IM PAYING FOR MEN
I actually hated this movie so much that I ended up loving it.
Going to see it again soon LOL
Love the weird stuff
So as you were watching it you were mad af, but slowly it started winning you over? Or was it hours later ?
How does that make any sense
@@roni2971 hours later. After I came out of the theatre I had a negative opinion on it but I couldn’t stop thinking about it. Like I started to think more and more, trying to understand and then it kinda clicked for me. But I still don’t get 80% of it. It’s a weird fixation on something that I don’t really enjoy? Idk how to explain it.
For LAMB, I came out of the theatre enjoying it but not understanding.
For MEN, I didn’t like it, nor understand but I like it now lolol
TLDR: I hate that I don’t understand anything but enjoy everything
@@desOOOm I understand both and both films you mentioned are horrible. A movie that trumps them both that I can’t recommend highly enough that actually showcases excellent cinema is called “Mother!”. It is a high brow, abstract art house film done incredibly well.
Theres something to be said when you make a movie about abusive relationships, yet you name it MEN.
Screams AGENDA to me.
Would you like a sequel called Women?
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 if that's an option
Every film has an agenda lol. Except visual white noise like transformers or the avengers.
"Go out there and tell the world that you were abused" *Quiet
"Can you give me a drink?" *Reeeee!
@@irarelyupload6930 no they fucking don’t-there are films like The Spine of Night that are a callback to rotoscoping films from the likes of Ralph bakshi-I get fucking tired of people saying “every films is political and/or has an agenda” which is not true whatsoever.
At some point, propaganda becomes self parody.
Lol you must be a snowflake if you think a dumb horror is propaganda for anything. That's like saying Jaws is anti environmentalist propaganda. No
....what
Have you seen this movie or did you just see the title and start crying
@@k--music sometimes the title and the concept is just enough!
@@kavehteimory6413 so the latter then lol need a tissue?
This film should of been called Anti-Men.
I saw like 2 trailers for this movie on RUclips and nothing made me think this movie was gonna be any good lmao
I don't even want to watch trailers of today's movies. There are so many spoilers. Also most of them have the best parts of the movies on the spoilers so you would think they are good movies but when you watch it the only good parts are all on the trailers and the rest of the movie is not good. I just ask someone who has the same taste as me when it come to movies and tv series who already watch it if it's good or bad. I'll watch it if they say it's passable or not a waste of time.
I like it
@@KWPZ21 eh, I think the spoiler talk only really applies to Marvel movies, and to a lesser extent comic book movies in general. Even the Star Wars trailers were pretty vague with what the stories was (although we come to find out the ST really had no story...) or Alita from a few years ago, unless you were a fan of the anime, the trailers really didn't encompass the full story. The trailer for Nope, all we can really gauge is it's an alien story (maybe)
@@thecunninlynguist It applies to horror movies also. That's where I first watch a trailer thinking the movies is good because of the trailer but when I watched it all the good scenes are all on the trailer which is a few. It turns out that movie is not good. Also the Fast and the Furious trailer revealing that Han is alive is a violation. You're not supposed to reveal major spoilers on a trailer.
I like the director and was hoping for something good again like his last 2 movies.
Annihilation's one of my favorite movies in years.
Because sometimes I like a movie to explore deep themes...but I might also want to see a GatorShark.
Everyone at my screening just kind of sat there in shock as the final credits rolled. I've just been watching online reviews to gauge how they felt because I still can't really explain what I just watched this weekend.
Everyone at my screening (4 other people) walked out after the scene where greenman cuts his arm in half lol
THIS THIS THIS! Me and my Mrs literally sat for about 10 minutes in silence as we really had no idea what to say! I honestly don't know how I feel about the film, but it's certainly made us think!
Someone at my theater left when the title card hit, he just slowly walked out. nowhere to be, just done.
The ending sucked. It just fizzles out as a nightmare while distracting you with some random gross shit. It was promising and engaging until it sucked.
Rory Kinnear is a fantastic actor! Loved him since Penny Dreadful. I always think he's underutilized.
I believe more Alex and AJ when it comes to movies review's
The whole film is a metaphor for toxic and abusive relationships. The scene with the constant “rebirths” is metaphorical for your spouse constantly saying they’re a new person, that they’ve changed, but always end up the same person they was before. Her seeing her spouse at the end was acceptance for moving on.
The visuals of the rippling and echoes is metaphorical for how your voice can carry weight. Her singing in the tunnel causing droplets to fall from the ceiling and crash into the puddle causing ripples. Her voice echoing during moments of impact. She tells her lover that she don’t care if he kills himself to leave her alone. That cause and effect of her words leads to his death.
When she’s in the tunnel it’s metaphorical for seeing light at the end of the tunnel but being held back from it(the man blocking the exit) and running back into a wall(the locked door at the other tunnel entrance). It’s a metaphor for toxic relationships where the spouse feels trapped and their partner won’t let them leave. This is everything I gathered from my viewing.
Beautifully said
So basically it's a movie made for professional "victims" who like to sniff their own farts.
Also the hand reaching through the door for acceptance/forgiveness and her taking his hand and feeling immediate pain is obviously a metaphor for spouses who take their spouses back after abuse only to have the pain happen again.
@Esar moh Right? Sounds so lame. "Oh light at the end of the tunnel! What if we made her go through an actual tunnel?!"
Yeah, real artistic... 🥱😴
@Esar moh Yeah this film isn’t going to be for everybody. The casual audience will hate this movie like they do most A24 films. I thought about that last night as I sat in a half filled theater, a lot of them shut their brains off and watch films at face value.
The idea that Christmas has been chosen because Yule was already celebrated in December is such a stupid myth. Christmas has been celebrated in December since 4th century, 400-500 years earlier than the Germanic people were even converted to Christianity. What happened in Northern Europe like in most other places is that older customs were taken and added to the new Christian holidays. How they chose 25 December is complicated and controversial, they were debating when Jesus was born since the 3rd century... and it's pretty likely that actually they first established when the Annunciation was (middle of March) and then added 9 Months for the birth. Just because Saxons slapped some pagan customs to Christmas doesn't mean it's the same in Southern and Eastern Europe or in Asia... We actually have no idea when Jesus was born.
Imagine releasing a film called "women" that shows nothing but the most toxic behavior of the worst women. When are we going to get to a point where people figure out that it's not okay to make sweeping negative generalizations about men, white people etc? It's just hypocritical. I would never generalize women, black people or whoever in such a way, so why is it okay to do it to me? The concept of punching up is applied in a very flawed manner. You aren't justified in bigotry just because you think you have picked the "right targets".
Generalisation of the people you mentioned, black people, women, etc...
These generalisations were super common for the biggest part of cinema history.
You're being wether yourself hypocritical or just too shortsighted to recognize we are, at most, seeing a balancing in the industry.
It’s our turn. It was ok to do this to women/minorities for decades. Now it’s happening to us. My Sicilian great grandparents were battered and scrutinized and treated like dogs when they first came to the states. It’s just how this country is.. there’s always gotta be a bag to beat on.
@@FloMoonYeah so are you saying the best way to end generalizations is to produce more generalizations of people like this movie does?🙄🤦♂️
We never going to get that point till there is an agenda and the agenda is coming from the same people who own the maistream media.
@@doomslayer4547 I don't think so, I'm just saying some people should chill about it.
Have you guys ever checked out Love Death and Robots? Very good mini series on netflix, all random high quality 3d short films
I’ve done this too, like damn my mic was off but it’s the default laptop mic setting.
the sequal will be called "Pronouns"
Everything i expected from alex garland great atmosphere great shots great sfx great soundtrack great directing great acting and a wtf ending lmao loved it
Same he might be my fav director working right now. Yeah Men wasn't as good as Annihilation (one of th best sci fi movies in years, you dont know nothing Alex) and Ex Machina, but it was still cool.
This movie should have been called toxic or something like that the fact the it kinda implies men would do these terrible things is kinda messed up both genders equally do some of these nasty things the movie is overall decent but the title eh..
And now we just need the sequel called "Women" lol.
Saw this and really liked it until the end. Then I was just confused but I think I didn’t get it. After looking up what the end meant I feel like I gotta see it again cause I’m still thinking about it
Final verdict is 6.67/10 if you include OJ and Alex's scores. Final verdict should be the average of all your scores not just AJ.
Been saying this for months
They dont like decimal scores, just single numbers.
Find the one you generally agree with the most and favor their opinion. I think Alex is the closest to my personal viewpoint
It's the Angry Joe show
I haven't seen the movie, but based on their description, it sounds to me like with just a little bit of tweaking and tightening up the end, this could have been an extremely good Silent Hill movie.
I would say don’t insult Silent Hill but Konami already has done worst.
Honestly- not imo because it’s missing the foggy aesthetic- but I can see the connection to silent hill 2
nothing like silent hill
Nothing like it
@@RayzaNC A mysterious kind of purgatory that forces someone to metaphorically and literally face their demons portrayed as grotesque monsters? Sounds pretty Silent Hill to me. Like I said, it would need some tweaking, but most of the major beats are there.
You guys like feminist Men hating films? Unsubscribed.. disgusting
A24 has some good movies, but lately, they've become more and more pretentious. They butchered the spirit of The Green Knight, so I'm not surprised that the overcooked art house trend continues.
lol go watch X by A24
Green Knight suuuucked
It's much worse for people who are fans of the poem. The director deconstructed it and made it his own story, for whatever reason -- probably his ego.
@@jordankirkland133 Exactly
@@jordankirkland133 The story of modern cinema. Too many hack writers taking great existing works and perverting it with their terrible vision due to their ego.
Haven’t watched the review yet but did sit through this monstrosity. One thing I will say is the acting was outstanding, and then ending was ridiculous and weird and NOT in a good way
agreed. I get what they were tryna do...but it was bad how it played out.
I'm hearing/seeing a lot of movie reviews showing how both men and women can be bad people. Would it just be easier/correct to say that humans in general can be terrible beings?
@@BreezeOTM Nah. That's too easy lol.
@Thawne tomorrow
@@BreezeOTM that’s not the problem. It was the execution of the climax of the film. Poorly done, didn’t really explain anything at all, and was just weird. Not midsommar weird, but like weird as I’m NOT in a good way
The movie left me feeling pretty raw. I understood the ending and what it was getting at, in that all of those men really just boiled down to reminders of her trauma with her husband. But I do understand that it would fly over most people's heads because it's graphic and over the top.
Also what I notice a lot of people miss (perhaps intentionally) is that the movie doesn't try to imply that men don't suffer at all. It can be interpreted multiple ways.
Yeah, in some ways the creature was trying to court her and maybe win her empathy or pity at the end. He was grovelling pathetically in unbelievable desperation. I do wonder if the transformation into the ex boyfriend was a final attempt at stirring her emotions. The movie can be interpreted from a masculine perspective as well.
It kinda irritates how people over hype these new A24 films and the films are 7 times out of 10 GARBAGE!!!!! Complete trash!
The same way they over hyped X and that film was the worst film I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Something’s wrong with the new cinema of today
The movie fucking sucked. All metaphor and no compelling coherent story.
@@myuugi try again lmao
Your mics are not working. The sound of this video is bad.
Did I miss the part where other Joe and Alex gave their ratings??
Why does it sound like they are in a empty room..fix the audio please.
What happened to the sound???
Copy right claim
Go watch the Halo review, it's explained in the beginning
@@ResidentNEMES1S gotcha.
You would have figured they would put a disclaimer b4 this vid.
Thanks tho :)
SPOILER ALERT‼️🚨 HORRIBLE movie becuz it HAS NO POINT. Its trying to be weird just to be weird. No point. Agree it was done well, good acting etc yet once I realized everyone ………………………………………was the same person (I lost interest) Then the birth scenes (4/5 dudes giving birth - the woke’s wet dream) PLULEEZE 🤮🙄 (FAST FORWARD was made for this), drags on and on goes NO where. NO wheresville. EX MACHINA was fantastic a story a point an objective an ending.
Havent saw this yet but i have no doubt Rory is great in it. Underrated actor, saw him first in the Penny Dreadful series and he's fucking great.
All you had to do is call it “A Man”, not “Men”. To paint all men in this terrible light because she has bad taste in men is ridiculous. Which is a shame because the cinematography and acting were pretty great. Had potential but the message was garbage and too many scenes dragged on way too long
A lot of Americans tend not to get the more British style of horror films. I think Joe gets it. :-) But you all rock and so thank you for your review. :-)
They rate it a 8/10…Ur welcome
2 videos in a row with this messed up audio , i cant do it joe. here's a like and a comment bro ! i love how this rhymed :D
This wasn't anti male? Are you on smack?
I let the movie sit for about two days now and I’ve definitely grown to like it more. I still believe the ending was a bit excessive. I get it’s point but it kind of takes away from the message, BUT I really respect Alex Garland for having the balls to do it. Knowing this is a worldwide release makes the ending so wild to me. Thought mother! was a wild movie to see in theaters but this definitely topped it. I loved everything besides that minor complaint. Can’t say I’d recommend it to everybody but I feel like most people should at least see it to know why it’s so insane. Pretty great movie.
I wouldn't recommend it to most lbvs. And Mother! definitely came to mind when I watch this too!
This movie was fucking horrible, people saying its great cause its weird and unique. I can film my harry bellybutton and thats weird and unique doesnt make it good. Whoever thought up this shit needs to be removed from society in a padded room.
Considering "that" scene I could say with a lot of confidence that this movie has its head waaaaaaaaaay up it's own @ss, when did Alex Garland become Darren Aronofsky.
Exactly! This shit was not worth it because there is no pay off at the end, its just a whole bunch of weird shit
So basically it was "annihilation" again?
It was trying a "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" kind of approach to try to get the men in the audience to listen. But go off, bro.
If it's just vague and abstract with little in the way of breadcrumbs ? I'd have to be in a very specific state of mind, to potentially grasp stuff like that.
But if I get the sense (and if the movie is good enough to warrant)that one more time might have the penny drop ? I'm interested.
Garland himself said there's no overarching story here, it's all left deliberately vague, so the audience can each decide for themselves what's happening. It's "vague and abstract with no breadcrumbs" by design.
These movie names are getting more and more mundane nowadays.
we are running out of dictionary i guess lol. Maybe we should have 40k style titles, where its 2 or 3 subtitles lol. Haiku titles would be rad. By rad i mean gey
Next thing you know, they are goint to call something DOOM or Call of Duty!
What would you have called it?
@@Subject_Keter Well there already is a Doom movie (and it sucks) so...
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 Yes
This ain’t it y’all! Rare miss by the Angry crew😩
Ex Machina has Moon Knight in it. Very good film indeed.
Please don’t mention that trash Moon Knight.
@@kluemenadi Moon Knight was incredible
Terrible movie for me and I understood it
I think you guys may have messed with some audio effects here... huge echo! Great review nonetheless like always though!
Is their going to be a sequel called women. It would make sense.
So now we know they review in bulk, this was recorded on the same session as the halo tv show review, interesting, they rly go full on those sessions, same audio on this one, its not bad, it just seems they forgot to turn the mics on and recorded with a cam mic
The audio got corrupted so they had go use cam mic.
@@Subject_Keter understandable
what's with the bad sound in their videos?
Seems to me it was about toxic(or worse) relationships in general. No spoilers so i can't say more
I don't know. The title feels so... specific.
@@r.daneel.90 well, sure. But honestly we have 1 woman and many men, so ..
Can you Guys do a Review Please on Tom Cruise's new Mission Impossible "Dead Reckoning" movie trailer Thank you 🤗
Alex is by far the most articulate of the three.
Maybe the birth is the cycle of bad men? Lustful man -> child -> so on
While I have respect for Alex’s opinions and understanding of religion, I don’t think he is as familiar with the reason for Christmas’ 25 December date as he lets on. There are only three candidate gods in the Roman pagan pantheon that could be considered potential celebrants for 25 December: Saturn, Sol Invictus (Unconquered Sun), and Mithras.
Saturnalia originally celebrated on December 17. Eventually the feast was extended to last an entire week, ending on December 23
. This can be found repeatedly on the Internet. In “Saturnalia: The Reason We Celebrate Christmas in December”, columnist Mark Whittington explains his theory, that Christians in the 4th Century assigned December 25th as Christ’s birthday (and hence Christmas) because pagans already observed it as a holiday. His theory was that making Christianization of the population easier because it would force paganism to be sidestepped as a celebration.
However, if Whittington was correct, it is expected to find at least one reference by early Christians to support it. Instead, we find a multitude of quotations from Church Fathers expressing a desire to distance themselves from paganism.
Next is Sol Invictur and Mithras. The feast of Sol Invictus was the attempt by the Roman emperor Aurelian to reform the cult of the Roman sun god and reintroduce it to his people. Problematically, this festival not annual, it also cannot be historically documented as having been established on December 25 by Aurelian.
Some historical evidence suggests that Mithraists believed that Mithras and Sol were of the same god in two different forms, while others claim they are two gods united as one. It’s hard to say for sure because we don’t have a lot of historical info about the Mithraic belief system, but the evidence available explains why skeptics claim the birthday of Mithras was celebrated on December 25.
Another problem for skeptics is the lack of exists suggesting Aurelian was a Mithraist, or that he even had Mithraism in mind when he instituted the feast of Sol Invictus. The connection of Mithra to December 25 has only proven to be coincidental.
Further, the deathblow to the Mithras/Sol Invictus parallels is that the fact that the Chronography of 354 is the earliest mention of any pagan god being celebrated on December 25. The celebration of the birth of Christ by Christians is also mentioned on the same calendar, which diminishes the likelihood that the pagan feast came first.
As for the reason for choosing December 25 - although the exact date of Christ’s birth is not present in the bible, there is documented evidence that December 25 was already of significant to Christians prior to A.D. 354. One example is in the writings of Hyppolytus of Rome, who explains in his Commentary on the book of Daniel (c. A.D. 204) that the Lord’s birth was believed to have occurred on that day:
“For the first advent of our Lord in the flesh, when he was born in Bethlehem, was December 25th, Wednesday, while Augustus was in his forty-second year, but from Adam, five thousand and five hundred years. He suffered in the thirty-third year, March 25th, Friday, the eighteenth year of Tiberius Caesar, while Rufus and Roubellion were Consuls.”
As surprising as it might sound, he explains that Christians believed Jesus was born nine months after the anniversary of Creation. According to his calculations, the world was created on the vernal equinox, March 25, which would mean Jesus was born nine months later, on December 25.
Nineteenth-century liturgical scholar Louis Duchesne explains that “towards the end of the third century the custom of celebrating the birthday of Christ had spread throughout the whole Church, but that it was not observed everywhere on the same day” (Christian Worship, Its Origin and Evolution: a study of the Latin liturgy up to the time of Charlemagne, p. 260). In the West, the birth of Christ was celebrated on December 25, and in the East on January 6.
Given the great aversion on the part of some Christians to anything pagan, the logical conclusion here is that one celebration has nothing to do with the other. In his book, Spirit of the Liturgy, Benedict XVI explains: “The claim used to be made that December 25 developed… as a Christian response to the cult of the unconquered sun…. however, these old theories can no longer be sustained. The decisive factor was the connection of creation and Cross, of creation and Christ’s conception (p. 105-107).”
While these explanations of how December 25 came to be the date of Christmas are all plausible, we know one thing with certainty - evidence that December 25th held a special significance to Christians predates the any proof of a supposed celebration of Sol Invictus or other pagan deities on that day.
That the Christians chose a date so close to the winter solstice is also not proof that this was done to mimic pagan festivals. The various pagan religions all had festivals spanning the calendar. Whatever month the early Christians might have otherwise chosen would still place Christmas near some pagan celebration, and oppositional theorists would still be making the same claims. The solstice was important to everyone for agricultural reasons in the same way water is important to the survival of human beings, and so we see rituals involving water showing up in various religions. That doesn’t prove that one borrowed the idea or theme from another.
As for the movie, it is clearly extremist man-hating propaganda. It is highly artistic propaganda. It is still propaganda.
Bro no one cares
Dang bro. Very detailed essay. I learned from a RUclips comment
@@Mrpeely1 The fact that you even made a comment shows that you care lol
It was a good movie, but the ending just went on too long. I am just seeing this movie, and I ending up fast forwarding a few seconds.
Why does the one guy on the right speak dominate over the other two❓ The 2 or at least the one have better opinions. Are all these guy the same person❓. Hey guy on right. … take a breather
Another woke movie what a surprise
What's woke about it??
@@sissyphussartre2907 basically the movie is saying 'men bad' to your face!🙄
Did your mic not recording again? there's some echo and degraded quality. If so why didn't you checked and do test recording first?
When it got to the last 20 mins of this movie the entire first two rows ahead of me got up and left. Kinda wished I joined them now
Martha is dead was over the top crazy and angry joe never finished it. I loved that game
I loved that game! Very dark and gruesome at times
From what I hear from people who have been in toxic relationship and marraiges is how hard it is to stop it from happening. Sure, you can say that they should just walk away but it is often not that easy. It has a lot to do with psychological maipulation and just power over the abused person that makes it so hard for them.
Absolute BS. If there was a kid in the picture, then you are correct, because you can't just abandon your kids. But the situation the main character was in is something you can absolutely walk away from, as soon as you recognize the abuse.
@@thehaloofthesun7174 I have read multiple accounts of victims in toxic relationships who had no children and could not leave even though they were incredibly abused. Children make it even harder but they are not the only reason that would cause it.
@@johnoneil9188 Yes, and it's illogical. I suspect, such people do not love themselves, so being alone, and risking remaining alone or finding only someone worse, is what keeps them in the relationship. There is no real, tangible reason holding them there, it's all self esteem issues.
@@thehaloofthesun7174 The nature of abusive relationships is that a) the abuser manipulates you to make you think you're extremely flawed to the point of being undeserving of respect, and that b) no one will believe you or support you should you leave them, so you think you'll have nowhere to go.
And honestly, it's attitudes like yours that keep people from talking about their abuse. Maybe that's why you have that stance, because abused people don't talk to you.
@@Leuka_ Nice try, but I know quite a few victims of abusive relationships, some of them even in my own family. Oddly enough, they will confide in you very easily. The advice I gave, and that I saw given when I was a kid, is to fuck off of that relationship. It worked most of the time.
When they didn't leave the relationship, it turned out there were ulterior motives for remaining in the relationship. There is also one family friend that I know is in the relationship due to having a submission fetish. Like I said, the people who remain, tend to want to remain, and it's not something you nor I will ever really understand, because it's a personality trait. It doesn't need to make sense.
You can read about the research on this. A lot of people will remain even after professional help, and it seems to be very difficult to get certain people with certain personality traits out of these situations.
When ur going to fix ur mic joe ?!
I didn’t think much of the title, & by watching it I didn’t think it came across as any overt/pushy narrative piece. Just kind of hard to understand & then the end is absolutely insane. I enjoyed it & ultimately I had to look up what this movie meant b/c I was so confused!!
Well what did it mean?
@@missnoncompliant6279 it means he just wasted 2 hours of his life and then an extra 30mins doing research about it
@@dislikebutton2462 😂☠️
I agree, the movie breeds discussion and while the story isn’t the best, its very thought provoking
@@dislikebutton2462 this is a less efficient way of saying "I don't like to learn or think about things"
What’s up with your audio? It sounds like you’re recording in a bathroom (echo).
You guys gotta watch “Devs.” By the same writer and director as ex machina, streaming on FX/Hulu still I think. It’s about 8 episodes long. Alex Garland
So y’all did this but everything everywhere all at once only got a vlog review?
The audio on this show gets worse and worse lol