im looking to buy a combo deal but didn't exactly know what the sales reps were talking about. I now understand the difference in furnaces . great video
More about heat distribution not gas consumption. At least the single stage shuts off after getting up to temp but the two stage reduces flame but never shuts off? Gas consumption is more important for me than even temperature consistency.
Stay clear from modulating unless you are in the 1% to 5% bracket. Although it will act as say a hydronic system might have in the past it will not be an energy saving feature rather the opposite.
HELP. We are negotiating the sale of a home. We had inspections done and it is debatable if the 1954 Arcoliner furnace is needing replacement. The owners and oil company who has been servicing their furnace said its a good furnace and no reason to replace. Our inspector said its end of life. My father in law said it could last forever but he would replace it. The point is we want the owner to put a new furnace in. This could be a dealbreaker for the purchase of the house. This is a 1954 Arcoliner furnace. Oil furnace. Water radiators. What do we do?. Im very nervous about having such an old furnace and even if it seems to run ok, what would you do?. Insist on a new one or accept taking the house with this old one.?. THANK YOU!!!!
No, they backed out. After spending $1000 on inspections they decided they won't negotiate at all on the furnace and cancelled the contract. What a waist.
Natural gas there isn't an option. They ended up cancelling the deal on us, but they also didn't want to do quite a few other things that in the long run would have potentially made the house and money pit. So we were disappointed but there are nicer houses in the area.
Thats how you sell a furnace brother. Thats not how you buy a furnace. Every house every case is different. People get a licensed contractor to explain you what you need.
When you are quoted a price FOR a furnace, ASK them for the brand and model #. Then go online to check that number. You will be shocked at what their markup is. These 4 and 5 thousand dollar furnaces are actually $ 800 to $ 1500 BIG SCAM!!!
What an utterly worthless video. I love the last two sentences at 4:30 that the difference in cost of all three systems is negligible when you factor in energy savings. IMHO, this is the meat and potatoes of any HVAC buying decision. You need to factor in climate, house size, house performance, and fuel types. This guy treats it as an afterthought! Marketing hype!!!
He is basically saying that you may be paying a lot more for a variable speed furnace upfront, but it will save you money in the long run even though a single stage is a lot cheaper, so the costs will sort of even out. I believe using less energy in the long run and being more comfortable are both good benefits of going with the more expensive product.
@@haydur What you describe is called "shooting from the hip". If you really want to compare, you need to factor in the initial cost difference, frequency of repair difference, and cost of repair difference, and compare that to energy savings at A PARTICULAR PROPERTY. Do the math and realize those fancy variable speed compressors are not cheap. For example, if the difference in initial and repair cost over 10 years is $4000, at a property using only cooling for 3 months of the year, you'd have to save $167/mo in electricity cost during the cooling season to break even after those 10 years....aint gonna happen. Also, dont expect a variable speed system to achieve its ultimate efficiency if, like most homes, the ductwork is undersized and the HVAC contractor specs an oversized variable to try and compensate.
I'm not happy with new modular (or 2 stages) furnace was used up all liquid propane gas that was filling up 250 gallons in 4 to 5 times on winter season is bring me so costly because it's run & run & run & run all night my house built in 1987 with full insulated (floors, ceilings and walls). Now I have to switch back to a single stage furnace that will not eat up propane gas (filling up in tank twice from old furnace) and it'll run for 15 minutes then off for the next an hour and half while remaining nice and warm. Don't listen to these energy junk it's all BS! Trump was righted is about water dripping and energy junk.
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im looking to buy a combo deal but didn't exactly know what the sales reps were talking about. I now understand the difference in furnaces . great video
Excellent explanation, thank you!
That was very informative thank you
Great video
More about heat distribution not gas consumption.
At least the single stage shuts off after getting up to temp but the two stage reduces flame but never shuts off?
Gas consumption is more important for me than even temperature consistency.
wow! Excellent video..Thank you .
very helpful, thx
Stay clear from modulating unless you are in the 1% to 5% bracket. Although it will act as say a hydronic system might have in the past it will not be an energy saving feature rather the opposite.
What affect works this have on usage of nat gas? The single vs mod?
How do I know if an Oil Furnace is anti-RF certified. I am a amateur radio operator and I cannot have anything that causes RF interference
John has a long mustache. John has a long mustache.
HELP. We are negotiating the sale of a home. We had inspections done and it is debatable if the 1954 Arcoliner furnace is needing replacement. The owners and oil company who has been servicing their furnace said its a good furnace and no reason to replace. Our inspector said its end of life. My father in law said it could last forever but he would replace it. The point is we want the owner to put a new furnace in. This could be a dealbreaker for the purchase of the house. This is a 1954 Arcoliner furnace. Oil furnace. Water radiators. What do we do?. Im very nervous about having such an old furnace and even if it seems to run ok, what would you do?. Insist on a new one or accept taking the house with this old one.?. THANK YOU!!!!
ggolds5 did they replace it ? We our buying a home as well and I’m hoping they will just replace it for us.
No, they backed out. After spending $1000 on inspections they decided they won't negotiate at all on the furnace and cancelled the contract. What a waist.
Nope, they cancelled the deal and we ended up paying $1000 for inspections. At least we didn't get stuck with an old monster nightmare furnace.
Natural gas there isn't an option. They ended up cancelling the deal on us, but they also didn't want to do quite a few other things that in the long run would have potentially made the house and money pit. So we were disappointed but there are nicer houses in the area.
man, that sucks.
Thats how you sell a furnace brother. Thats not how you buy a furnace.
Every house every case is different. People get a licensed contractor to explain you what you need.
When you are quoted a price FOR a furnace, ASK them for the brand and model #. Then go online to check that number. You will be shocked at what their markup is. These 4 and 5 thousand dollar furnaces are actually $ 800 to $ 1500 BIG SCAM!!!
how can you tell if furnace is in stage 2 ?
The sales brochure or the service manual will list that information
There will be a huge number two painted on the side.
Two pressure switches vs one on a single stage furnace.
Lies, single stage is better. Gotta love salesmen.
What an utterly worthless video. I love the last two sentences at 4:30 that the difference in cost of all three systems is negligible when you factor in energy savings. IMHO, this is the meat and potatoes of any HVAC buying decision. You need to factor in climate, house size, house performance, and fuel types. This guy treats it as an afterthought! Marketing hype!!!
He is basically saying that you may be paying a lot more for a variable speed furnace upfront, but it will save you money in the long run even though a single stage is a lot cheaper, so the costs will sort of even out. I believe using less energy in the long run and being more comfortable are both good benefits of going with the more expensive product.
@@haydur What you describe is called "shooting from the hip". If you really want to compare, you need to factor in the initial cost difference, frequency of repair difference, and cost of repair difference, and compare that to energy savings at A PARTICULAR PROPERTY. Do the math and realize those fancy variable speed compressors are not cheap. For example, if the difference in initial and repair cost over 10 years is $4000, at a property using only cooling for 3 months of the year, you'd have to save $167/mo in electricity cost during the cooling season to break even after those 10 years....aint gonna happen.
Also, dont expect a variable speed system to achieve its ultimate efficiency if, like most homes, the ductwork is undersized and the HVAC contractor specs an oversized variable to try and compensate.
I'm not happy with new modular (or 2 stages) furnace was used up all liquid propane gas that was filling up 250 gallons in 4 to 5 times on winter season is bring me so costly because it's run & run & run & run all night my house built in 1987 with full insulated (floors, ceilings and walls). Now I have to switch back to a single stage furnace that will not eat up propane gas (filling up in tank twice from old furnace) and it'll run for 15 minutes then off for the next an hour and half while remaining nice and warm. Don't listen to these energy junk it's all BS!
Trump was righted is about water dripping and energy junk.
Modulating furnaces are for comfort not efficiency. 90+% efficient furnaces operate efficiently but run longer.
@@bill944 Yeah it was wasting all on-site liquid propane tank so quickly than before!
At least a single stage shuts off after reaching its thermostat temp .
2 stage slows down but never shuts off .