Black Steel Greathammer's Special Guard Counter is Bait - Elden Ring
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Basically the shockwave does so little damage its better to just go pure physical as the initial guard counter hit will just do more damage overall.
I really love that a lot of the DLC weapons have unique charge attacks or guard counters. I wish that the base game weapons had more of that, like Marais Executioner's Sword could REALLY use that.
Edit: I was more meaning unique effects like the guard counter having a shockwave that can be infused with holy, or how the smith script weapons get thrown with heavy attacks, stuff that makes it more unique then which angle or speed the attack comes in at.
Actually the Marai's Executioner Sword has a fully unique R2, both are downward cleaves.
What other weapons have unique guard counters
@@ultimaabyssal2484 I believe he means have the executioner's sword float around with its entire moveset rather than just the L2. Kinda like how the boss fights you instead of just being an average greatsword.
@@henrystonefist2341 I think it should have had a stance Ash of War. Elden Ring really got a lot of weapons which could use a stance Ash of War like DS 3 ringed knight weapons had
@@argonianguy6226 Less stance and more variable between light and heavy chains.
Best fashion is to use this with Maliketh’s armor. They genuinely look like they belong together.
I went with maliketh + black knight helm. Looks so good
@@ShardtheWolfomg I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought of this look.
It’s peak black Knight fashion honestly.
@@ShardtheWolf NOOOO I'M NOT ORIGINAL AAAAH
Got the fashion… and was locked out of the hammer 😭 going to start ng+ to see if it’s there this time
Something else that looks really good is Black Knights helm, maliketh gauntlets and legs, and the depraved perfumer robe.
16:42 that duck under the sword swing was nuts
The most important part is that it looks fucking SLEEK. That's a sexy hammer.
Best looking hammer in the series imo it’s so damn cool.
How dare you offend Ledos like that 😢
This has fierce competition with Smough's hammer
"sit on 'em smough"
scott lands a successful guard counter at 18:50
>makes video about guard counter
>doesnt guard counter
Pretty much every weapon I fought was greatsword level or higher. Sadly the actual guard of the weapon is pretty dogshit so I'm not sure when I was actually supposed to lol
@@ScottJund Doesn't the shield talisman help? Also, you could "just" bait a light attack, or infuse that weapon with Endure.
He consistently uses weapons incorrectly then tells people they’re bad, he done the same with the Rot Halberd and Steelovsky corrected him in a recent video.
This weapon with the deflecting hard tear is absolutely amazing for pvp.
Edit* when using the weapon for guard counters like this, you’re best off using sacred.
@@ScottJund The knights that use that hammer have a shield for a reason.
@@ScottJund Try the deflect tear! It raises your guard extremely high when blocking at just the right time (a relatively easy thing to do) and makes the following guard counter do substantially more damage. Tested and approved.
Actually its a great idea for all colossal hammers to have aoe guard counter
You should just have a stun hitbox similar to warcry R2s so that guard counters are guaranteed or at least roll-catches for colossals otherwise you're never landing one.
This hammer is not colossal
Yup, just like the kirkhammer from BB, don't know why Fromsoft walked away from that design
I had surprising success with this weapon and Golden Land.
Yes! Its great to bait people to and does a lot of damage!
I call this setup the noobstomper. But sadly anybody versed in arts of spacing and timing will just rekt you
Beans. That is all.
Rice and beans is underrated
Good for you heart, and the more you eat the more you fart. 😂
I WAS EATING THOSE BEANS
*Mindlessly nods in agreement.
Beeeeeeeaaaans
What the fuuuuuuuuug
Fun fact. Rakshusa gkatana has stronger hyperarmor than great hammers 🙁
society
Yeah but that's the unique property of the weapon
so must be pretty fun with the deflecting crystal tear!
very!
@@ScottJundpls do a vid with that tear, I don’t even care what weapon you use, its so fun
I went back to the base game and killed malenia with this weapon + sekiro tear. Took a bit to get the timing down for waterfowl but it was fun as heck.
@@camiam144shows you how much better Sekiro combat is that just one aspect of it being added to ER instantly elevates it
I’ve learned that when dealing with blink bolt, if you swing when you see the start up, they end up just diving directly into the attack. With Messmer’s spear(Projectile heavy my beloved) AOW on reaction to the startup hits them out with the stunning swing and then combos into flames.
i like to use it with flaming strike, if people get caught by the guardcounter, they most likely will panic roll and there's where flaming strike shines, it basicaly makes a 4 hit pseudo-combo.
I miss this content from you Scott. Thanks for sharing!
So glad you're making Elden Ring pvp stuff. You're the only one that isn't toxic and annoying in my opinion. And when you invade you don't run away all the time
Scrock Grund
Yooo, I mained this bad boy the moment i find it. Such a good weapon
I feel so robbed they didn't give us a Gravity Ledo's hammer
Yeah when I first saw Anvil Hammer I was like... oh nice we got Ledos
Kirkland brand Ledos that is
Do you have any plans for colabs with other elden ring pvpers? Chase or juno would be cool
Quite lightweight for how strong it is
That free aim frost pot throw was sick
Love this hammer but really wish it had the Great Mace range.
I love this weapon. I have 80 fth and 80 str with two handing, so I basically change it back and forth from heavy to sacred whenever I feel like it. Sacred with sword of light and a tear makes some mean mf damage, but whenever I’m bored of buffing I can use heavy. Only issue is range, but the best things come in small packages amirite. The thickness is on point anyways tho 🤤
12:03 I thought that's a Lich King cosplay trying to re-animate Sindragosa. Don't know what's up with the fire serpents and the great katana though. Blade of darkness and some frost spell sounds more fitting.
I miss my chicken wing smelter hammer but this will do
Ravioli stepping with this bad boy and keeping a fast offhand weapon is pretty fun and covers the obvious weaknesses.
Is there a reason why it's called the Ravioli step? Kinda curious since the term for that tech has been around for years
@@PerpetuallyMalding Not the faintest idea, all I know is it had a bunch of names but Ravioli is the one that is still with us today.
@@paulwhailhaila7552 It's probably lost to time then, oh well, still a funny name for a simple yet effective tech
I like how cragblade on it has just one small rock on the top
Every time he hyperarmors through a rolling great katana R1 all I can think is "that could've been a Barker Bomb Bait"
use the deflect tear to get those guard counters off with it for swag, the damage boost the tear gives is nuts too
You can jump the twin tornado axes, you just had to jump earlier.
This heavy + golden land AW + sacred blade adds a bit of pressure, and slaps hard AF.
You could run smithscript shield to make up for this thing's weaknesses.
He beats the perfume man to death, but he feels no joy about it.
Thank you scoot for the excellent cat brushing content.
Shield talisman boosts weapon blocking, carian straight sword can block not colossal greatswords r1s, curved greatswords r2s, dual naginata, l1s and dual ss l1s. Granted thats with the unique r2 of the carian ss but i dont think that boosts guard at all. 2h definitley does boist stabikity as well
And yes you can neutrsl jump the blinkbolt and if they go for the follow up spin, a neutral jump attavk will oand and interupt them
That’s diff because it’s blocking damage but poising with hyper armor. It’s diff
I don't know what you mean. He wanted guard counters, you have yo Blick to do that, he was worried about getting his guard broken so ge didn't even bother becuade he didn't use a shield. My point was saying that the stability is better than he thinks with the shield ring that he can block most things actually. He has better stability with a great hammer than my straightforward. At least he likely has more poise here than I did in my example so he could poise through attacks or at least clip them which will still deliver the full hitbox
@@twoshu8940r2 of carian sword is block not ha
Offhanding a thrusting sword with this seems like it would help a lot.
I was really expecting this weapon to have unique r2s as well.
Was extremely disappointed when it was just guard counters
I mean, as for guard counters you could just use the new crystal tear.
Hopefully poise damage of the new weapons gets updated in PvP, until then yeah you can hyper armor through most every attack from them lol
Wow, that guard counter wave sure sucks. Also don't think we didn't notice the last deleted video.
The hammer was fun in pve but there were so many occasions I was just a hair away from hitting something when with other weapons in it's class I'd know I would hit. Still a fun weapon.
Is there any way to make perfumes good? Been trying it and all I ever found success with was spamming the heavy backstep attack against aggressive players
best bet is to wait for a patch, there's a lot of new toys in the dlc that are clearly not polished.
usually in games id try to make bad stuff work by finding inquire advantages in them, but this dlc is clearly just a case of rushed new weapons and spells. you'll notice most things are either extremely op or just a joke, likely didn't have time when making the dlc to ensure they work correctly, but they've fixed things in base eldenring so there's no reason to think they won't do so this time too
With sacred blade faith build could easily deal great damage with thing and you only need like 50 faith to get a softcap
This video should have been called Blacksteel greathammer+blacksteel greatshield. Then you could try to properly use its niche as ultimate trading tool.
I tried that, with shield bash and its really funny. You alternate between blocking+guard countering and shield bashing as trade, after few tries enemies stop being aggressive at all and thats the time when you switch to your favorite chasedown weapon :D
This fucker here carried my whole dlc run, it's nice to see it in pvp. I wonder why you didn't run the deflect tear if you wanted to guard counter? It's still slow but you could try punishing a jump attack or something.
Can't use physick in 1V1 arenas
You can't use physick in the colosseum duel mode
Do people genuinely not know about combat ordeal mode or what lol
Wow, no wonder the duel mode sucks ass.
@@spiderjerusalem8505 Combat ordeal isn't as great for a showcase like this against different types of players/setups
This thing looks like it would be fun with an offhand dagger/hand axe to counter people passively reaction rolling you. I might try that tonight
So that was fun, it worked fairly well. I added storm stomp to it in place of Cragblade (I know, I know) and just buffed with drawstring holy grease instead. Because of that I didn’t even end up needing the dagger that much since SS already worked great as a “get off my nuts” tool, especially since it seems to true combo into a greathammer R1. I still got some use out of the dagger though just to mix up timings and sneak hits in when fighting slower weapons.
I also only had 54 strength, and while the damage was honestly still surprisingly decent, my AR unbuffed was only 746. Obviously much, much lower than what you got with effectively 99 strength. Because of that I’ll say that one-handing it definitely isn’t that great for SL 125. If you take the build to 150 and get 80 strength, the offhand setup should work really well. Fun weapon! You were definitely right about the range though, dear god.
I use with a great shield so I always thought it would benefit most from a sacred infusion on a 45 str+fth
Shorter greathammers really should have more forward momentum, this is silly.
What do you think of Great Katana everyone and their mom seems to be using in duels
Whoa Knight isn't censored anymore? Biggest buff tbh
the 1h moveset has substantially more range and is overall better (except for the cr1 and the lack of hyperarmour), try with a shield
This weapon is pretty great in PVE. Love these showcases.
If passive opponents are this weapons main weakness, would offhand throwing daggers work?
what is the "f me" shield? 0.o
The mic worked this time W
off hand star fist
You’re on PlayStation????? I thought you played this on PC.
do these guys just not have vigor or something they're getting two shot 😅
I feel like everyone misreads the item description it doesn't get bonus damage from sacred infusion its get a big scaling bonus from elemental infusions. Like putting the flame art infusion buffs the faith scaling from B to A it can some pretty crazy ar with the drawback of multiple elements on it.
8:50 I KNEW I WASN’T THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED, the moment this torch becomes more popular the PVP scene will have more to worry about that a Vyke’s spear.
greathammer moveset is 10x better 1h but obv you lose HA
With sacred blade in faith is best
kind of unplayable without some wiggling. people just roll
Love this weapon
Why did you block the guy before fighting?
Very laggy
21:21 - "I saw him take out that sacred seal and I knew his fate was sealed" is a raw-ass bar to just drop without warning
12:34 lmfao I swear soulsborne elitists will call anything they don't like "cheese".. ooor it's just a good strategy.. lmfao it can literally be used to call your strategy "cheese" by using throwing pots if they play defensive and then you use your hammer if they play offensive..
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In a game like elden ring there are alot of cheesy ways to kill people in pvp. Using a projectile when someone's playing passive against a weapon that already has trouble hitting people is not the same as dominating the entire arena with 2 spells that were barely balanced for pvp in the first place. This is all coming from somebody who hates playing pvp more than anything in elden ring!
Dynasts finesse iz cewl.
Scott please. I've been seeing it since the game came out.
please remove the ARROWS
It's now much harder for great weapons to hyperarmor through each other in 1.12. There's a reddit post showing the numbers you can find with google. In 1.10 they could infinite trade into each other it was kind of stupid.
Scott can you do Elden ring bingo
200k, gg!
Why not use the deflect tear
You can't in 1v1s
@@ScottJund forgot
what game is this
Elden ring dlc
dark souls
dead by daylight
Hello Kitty Adventure Island
Scund
oh cool
Guten tag. Love this weapon.
18:58 bruh
Bonk
Goodbye for a while Scott, I love your videos but can’t stand Dbd brain rot.