Black Steel Greathammer's Special Guard Counter is Bait - Elden Ring

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • Basically the shockwave does so little damage its better to just go pure physical as the initial guard counter hit will just do more damage overall.

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  • @CoffeeZombi-ATL1
    @CoffeeZombi-ATL1 Месяц назад +146

    I really love that a lot of the DLC weapons have unique charge attacks or guard counters. I wish that the base game weapons had more of that, like Marais Executioner's Sword could REALLY use that.
    Edit: I was more meaning unique effects like the guard counter having a shockwave that can be infused with holy, or how the smith script weapons get thrown with heavy attacks, stuff that makes it more unique then which angle or speed the attack comes in at.

    • @ultimaabyssal2484
      @ultimaabyssal2484 Месяц назад +20

      Actually the Marai's Executioner Sword has a fully unique R2, both are downward cleaves.

    • @hugheverett3789
      @hugheverett3789 Месяц назад +3

      What other weapons have unique guard counters

    • @henrystonefist2341
      @henrystonefist2341 Месяц назад +23

      @@ultimaabyssal2484 I believe he means have the executioner's sword float around with its entire moveset rather than just the L2. Kinda like how the boss fights you instead of just being an average greatsword.

    • @argonianguy6226
      @argonianguy6226 Месяц назад +27

      @@henrystonefist2341 I think it should have had a stance Ash of War. Elden Ring really got a lot of weapons which could use a stance Ash of War like DS 3 ringed knight weapons had

    • @asdergold1
      @asdergold1 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@argonianguy6226 Less stance and more variable between light and heavy chains.

  • @rickkcir2151
    @rickkcir2151 Месяц назад +45

    Best fashion is to use this with Maliketh’s armor. They genuinely look like they belong together.

    • @ShardtheWolf
      @ShardtheWolf Месяц назад +13

      I went with maliketh + black knight helm. Looks so good

    • @radagonsoreseal3457
      @radagonsoreseal3457 Месяц назад +2

      @@ShardtheWolfomg I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought of this look.
      It’s peak black Knight fashion honestly.

    • @mazevlad2263
      @mazevlad2263 Месяц назад

      ​@@ShardtheWolf NOOOO I'M NOT ORIGINAL AAAAH

    • @79bull
      @79bull Месяц назад

      Got the fashion… and was locked out of the hammer 😭 going to start ng+ to see if it’s there this time

    • @scads2155
      @scads2155 Месяц назад

      Something else that looks really good is Black Knights helm, maliketh gauntlets and legs, and the depraved perfumer robe.

  • @alexandercho717
    @alexandercho717 Месяц назад +27

    16:42 that duck under the sword swing was nuts

  • @ruinmaniac1411
    @ruinmaniac1411 Месяц назад +18

    The most important part is that it looks fucking SLEEK. That's a sexy hammer.

    • @radagonsoreseal3457
      @radagonsoreseal3457 Месяц назад

      Best looking hammer in the series imo it’s so damn cool.

    • @D4Deyo
      @D4Deyo Месяц назад

      How dare you offend Ledos like that 😢

  • @markarmstrong8306
    @markarmstrong8306 Месяц назад +77

    This has fierce competition with Smough's hammer

    • @Belial289
      @Belial289 Месяц назад +2

      "sit on 'em smough"

  • @brudu4744
    @brudu4744 Месяц назад +6

    scott lands a successful guard counter at 18:50

  • @iMule
    @iMule Месяц назад +52

    >makes video about guard counter
    >doesnt guard counter

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  Месяц назад +12

      Pretty much every weapon I fought was greatsword level or higher. Sadly the actual guard of the weapon is pretty dogshit so I'm not sure when I was actually supposed to lol

    • @KRIMZONMEKANISM
      @KRIMZONMEKANISM Месяц назад +3

      @@ScottJund Doesn't the shield talisman help? Also, you could "just" bait a light attack, or infuse that weapon with Endure.

    • @kaytwo6
      @kaytwo6 Месяц назад +7

      He consistently uses weapons incorrectly then tells people they’re bad, he done the same with the Rot Halberd and Steelovsky corrected him in a recent video.
      This weapon with the deflecting hard tear is absolutely amazing for pvp.
      Edit* when using the weapon for guard counters like this, you’re best off using sacred.

    • @dutchvanderlinde248
      @dutchvanderlinde248 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@ScottJund The knights that use that hammer have a shield for a reason.

    • @PathosMythos
      @PathosMythos Месяц назад +5

      @@ScottJund Try the deflect tear! It raises your guard extremely high when blocking at just the right time (a relatively easy thing to do) and makes the following guard counter do substantially more damage. Tested and approved.

  • @TheUltraBeast1
    @TheUltraBeast1 Месяц назад +14

    Actually its a great idea for all colossal hammers to have aoe guard counter

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 Месяц назад +9

      You should just have a stun hitbox similar to warcry R2s so that guard counters are guaranteed or at least roll-catches for colossals otherwise you're never landing one.

    • @PowerSenpai
      @PowerSenpai Месяц назад

      This hammer is not colossal

    • @Sohelanthropus
      @Sohelanthropus Месяц назад

      Yup, just like the kirkhammer from BB, don't know why Fromsoft walked away from that design

  • @truedps8
    @truedps8 Месяц назад +11

    I had surprising success with this weapon and Golden Land.

    • @rafalst
      @rafalst Месяц назад +1

      Yes! Its great to bait people to and does a lot of damage!

    •  Месяц назад

      I call this setup the noobstomper. But sadly anybody versed in arts of spacing and timing will just rekt you

  • @lauriethethicc5430
    @lauriethethicc5430 Месяц назад +81

    Beans. That is all.

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 Месяц назад

      Rice and beans is underrated

    • @dustylittle5841
      @dustylittle5841 Месяц назад +2

      Good for you heart, and the more you eat the more you fart. 😂

    • @Is99c
      @Is99c Месяц назад +1

      I WAS EATING THOSE BEANS

    • @danielmontilla1197
      @danielmontilla1197 Месяц назад +1

      *Mindlessly nods in agreement.

    • @Santi.Ocampos
      @Santi.Ocampos Месяц назад +1

      Beeeeeeeaaaans
      What the fuuuuuuuuug

  • @captainwafflezs4799
    @captainwafflezs4799 Месяц назад +11

    Fun fact. Rakshusa gkatana has stronger hyperarmor than great hammers 🙁

  • @acrustykrab
    @acrustykrab Месяц назад +15

    so must be pretty fun with the deflecting crystal tear!

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  Месяц назад +7

      very!

    • @connorwilcox146
      @connorwilcox146 Месяц назад +3

      @@ScottJundpls do a vid with that tear, I don’t even care what weapon you use, its so fun

    • @camiam144
      @camiam144 Месяц назад

      I went back to the base game and killed malenia with this weapon + sekiro tear. Took a bit to get the timing down for waterfowl but it was fun as heck.

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 Месяц назад

      ​@@camiam144shows you how much better Sekiro combat is that just one aspect of it being added to ER instantly elevates it

  • @vulkan5790
    @vulkan5790 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve learned that when dealing with blink bolt, if you swing when you see the start up, they end up just diving directly into the attack. With Messmer’s spear(Projectile heavy my beloved) AOW on reaction to the startup hits them out with the stunning swing and then combos into flames.

  • @WeeabooPocky
    @WeeabooPocky Месяц назад +1

    i like to use it with flaming strike, if people get caught by the guardcounter, they most likely will panic roll and there's where flaming strike shines, it basicaly makes a 4 hit pseudo-combo.

  • @TheDrunkardHu
    @TheDrunkardHu Месяц назад

    I miss this content from you Scott. Thanks for sharing!

  • @bobbobby475
    @bobbobby475 Месяц назад

    So glad you're making Elden Ring pvp stuff. You're the only one that isn't toxic and annoying in my opinion. And when you invade you don't run away all the time

  • @remingtonfiore9721
    @remingtonfiore9721 Месяц назад +12

    Scrock Grund

  • @B4DDHero
    @B4DDHero Месяц назад +5

    Yooo, I mained this bad boy the moment i find it. Such a good weapon

  • @Joandersonso
    @Joandersonso Месяц назад +2

    I feel so robbed they didn't give us a Gravity Ledo's hammer

    • @D4Deyo
      @D4Deyo Месяц назад

      Yeah when I first saw Anvil Hammer I was like... oh nice we got Ledos
      Kirkland brand Ledos that is

  • @thehulkyman
    @thehulkyman Месяц назад +1

    Do you have any plans for colabs with other elden ring pvpers? Chase or juno would be cool

  • @hellxapo5740
    @hellxapo5740 Месяц назад +5

    Quite lightweight for how strong it is

  • @Joe-ve9xz
    @Joe-ve9xz Месяц назад

    That free aim frost pot throw was sick

  • @EinSilverRose
    @EinSilverRose Месяц назад +2

    Love this hammer but really wish it had the Great Mace range.

  • @persnappy
    @persnappy Месяц назад +3

    I love this weapon. I have 80 fth and 80 str with two handing, so I basically change it back and forth from heavy to sacred whenever I feel like it. Sacred with sword of light and a tear makes some mean mf damage, but whenever I’m bored of buffing I can use heavy. Only issue is range, but the best things come in small packages amirite. The thickness is on point anyways tho 🤤

  • @mytsw
    @mytsw Месяц назад +1

    12:03 I thought that's a Lich King cosplay trying to re-animate Sindragosa. Don't know what's up with the fire serpents and the great katana though. Blade of darkness and some frost spell sounds more fitting.

  • @MynameisFICTION
    @MynameisFICTION Месяц назад +1

    I miss my chicken wing smelter hammer but this will do

  • @paulwhailhaila7552
    @paulwhailhaila7552 Месяц назад +1

    Ravioli stepping with this bad boy and keeping a fast offhand weapon is pretty fun and covers the obvious weaknesses.

    • @PerpetuallyMalding
      @PerpetuallyMalding Месяц назад

      Is there a reason why it's called the Ravioli step? Kinda curious since the term for that tech has been around for years

    • @paulwhailhaila7552
      @paulwhailhaila7552 Месяц назад

      @@PerpetuallyMalding Not the faintest idea, all I know is it had a bunch of names but Ravioli is the one that is still with us today.

    • @PerpetuallyMalding
      @PerpetuallyMalding Месяц назад +1

      @@paulwhailhaila7552 It's probably lost to time then, oh well, still a funny name for a simple yet effective tech

  • @grayrim
    @grayrim Месяц назад

    I like how cragblade on it has just one small rock on the top

  • @wAFFLES6952
    @wAFFLES6952 Месяц назад

    Every time he hyperarmors through a rolling great katana R1 all I can think is "that could've been a Barker Bomb Bait"

  • @SaucyKakes
    @SaucyKakes Месяц назад

    use the deflect tear to get those guard counters off with it for swag, the damage boost the tear gives is nuts too

  • @Dalladrien
    @Dalladrien Месяц назад

    You can jump the twin tornado axes, you just had to jump earlier.

  • @PotentialxHero
    @PotentialxHero Месяц назад

    This heavy + golden land AW + sacred blade adds a bit of pressure, and slaps hard AF.

  • @skeletalspiders6697
    @skeletalspiders6697 Месяц назад

    You could run smithscript shield to make up for this thing's weaknesses.

  • @brad1426
    @brad1426 Месяц назад

    He beats the perfume man to death, but he feels no joy about it.
    Thank you scoot for the excellent cat brushing content.

  • @boof994
    @boof994 Месяц назад +2

    Shield talisman boosts weapon blocking, carian straight sword can block not colossal greatswords r1s, curved greatswords r2s, dual naginata, l1s and dual ss l1s. Granted thats with the unique r2 of the carian ss but i dont think that boosts guard at all. 2h definitley does boist stabikity as well
    And yes you can neutrsl jump the blinkbolt and if they go for the follow up spin, a neutral jump attavk will oand and interupt them

    • @twoshu8940
      @twoshu8940 Месяц назад

      That’s diff because it’s blocking damage but poising with hyper armor. It’s diff

    • @boof994
      @boof994 Месяц назад

      I don't know what you mean. He wanted guard counters, you have yo Blick to do that, he was worried about getting his guard broken so ge didn't even bother becuade he didn't use a shield. My point was saying that the stability is better than he thinks with the shield ring that he can block most things actually. He has better stability with a great hammer than my straightforward. At least he likely has more poise here than I did in my example so he could poise through attacks or at least clip them which will still deliver the full hitbox

    • @williammclyr3330
      @williammclyr3330 Месяц назад

      ​@@twoshu8940r2 of carian sword is block not ha

  • @KyokujiFGC
    @KyokujiFGC Месяц назад

    Offhanding a thrusting sword with this seems like it would help a lot.

  • @Nightmare-pj4fg
    @Nightmare-pj4fg Месяц назад

    I was really expecting this weapon to have unique r2s as well.
    Was extremely disappointed when it was just guard counters

  • @achaziel
    @achaziel Месяц назад

    I mean, as for guard counters you could just use the new crystal tear.

  • @Rubbly
    @Rubbly Месяц назад

    Hopefully poise damage of the new weapons gets updated in PvP, until then yeah you can hyper armor through most every attack from them lol

  • @anitaremenarova6662
    @anitaremenarova6662 Месяц назад +5

    Wow, that guard counter wave sure sucks. Also don't think we didn't notice the last deleted video.

  • @jinsu9004
    @jinsu9004 Месяц назад

    The hammer was fun in pve but there were so many occasions I was just a hair away from hitting something when with other weapons in it's class I'd know I would hit. Still a fun weapon.

  • @hecc7906
    @hecc7906 Месяц назад +2

    Is there any way to make perfumes good? Been trying it and all I ever found success with was spamming the heavy backstep attack against aggressive players

    • @petercottantail7850
      @petercottantail7850 Месяц назад +1

      best bet is to wait for a patch, there's a lot of new toys in the dlc that are clearly not polished.
      usually in games id try to make bad stuff work by finding inquire advantages in them, but this dlc is clearly just a case of rushed new weapons and spells. you'll notice most things are either extremely op or just a joke, likely didn't have time when making the dlc to ensure they work correctly, but they've fixed things in base eldenring so there's no reason to think they won't do so this time too

  • @williammclyr3330
    @williammclyr3330 Месяц назад

    With sacred blade faith build could easily deal great damage with thing and you only need like 50 faith to get a softcap

  •  Месяц назад

    This video should have been called Blacksteel greathammer+blacksteel greatshield. Then you could try to properly use its niche as ultimate trading tool.
    I tried that, with shield bash and its really funny. You alternate between blocking+guard countering and shield bashing as trade, after few tries enemies stop being aggressive at all and thats the time when you switch to your favorite chasedown weapon :D

  • @4vis4
    @4vis4 Месяц назад +3

    This fucker here carried my whole dlc run, it's nice to see it in pvp. I wonder why you didn't run the deflect tear if you wanted to guard counter? It's still slow but you could try punishing a jump attack or something.

    • @Rain1
      @Rain1 Месяц назад +9

      Can't use physick in 1V1 arenas

    • @omastarofastora493
      @omastarofastora493 Месяц назад

      You can't use physick in the colosseum duel mode

    • @spiderjerusalem8505
      @spiderjerusalem8505 Месяц назад

      Do people genuinely not know about combat ordeal mode or what lol

    • @Shadow6OO
      @Shadow6OO Месяц назад +1

      Wow, no wonder the duel mode sucks ass.

    • @omastarofastora493
      @omastarofastora493 Месяц назад +1

      @@spiderjerusalem8505 Combat ordeal isn't as great for a showcase like this against different types of players/setups

  • @eldonhill4840
    @eldonhill4840 Месяц назад

    This thing looks like it would be fun with an offhand dagger/hand axe to counter people passively reaction rolling you. I might try that tonight

    • @eldonhill4840
      @eldonhill4840 Месяц назад

      So that was fun, it worked fairly well. I added storm stomp to it in place of Cragblade (I know, I know) and just buffed with drawstring holy grease instead. Because of that I didn’t even end up needing the dagger that much since SS already worked great as a “get off my nuts” tool, especially since it seems to true combo into a greathammer R1. I still got some use out of the dagger though just to mix up timings and sneak hits in when fighting slower weapons.
      I also only had 54 strength, and while the damage was honestly still surprisingly decent, my AR unbuffed was only 746. Obviously much, much lower than what you got with effectively 99 strength. Because of that I’ll say that one-handing it definitely isn’t that great for SL 125. If you take the build to 150 and get 80 strength, the offhand setup should work really well. Fun weapon! You were definitely right about the range though, dear god.

  • @2dark4u88
    @2dark4u88 Месяц назад

    I use with a great shield so I always thought it would benefit most from a sacred infusion on a 45 str+fth

  • @hobosorcerer
    @hobosorcerer Месяц назад

    Shorter greathammers really should have more forward momentum, this is silly.

  • @drev6572
    @drev6572 Месяц назад

    What do you think of Great Katana everyone and their mom seems to be using in duels

  • @Ramborc86
    @Ramborc86 Месяц назад

    Whoa Knight isn't censored anymore? Biggest buff tbh

  • @sovietspaceship
    @sovietspaceship Месяц назад

    the 1h moveset has substantially more range and is overall better (except for the cr1 and the lack of hyperarmour), try with a shield

  • @hsapin
    @hsapin Месяц назад

    This weapon is pretty great in PVE. Love these showcases.

  • @Zayd-bg1pt
    @Zayd-bg1pt Месяц назад

    If passive opponents are this weapons main weakness, would offhand throwing daggers work?

  • @FyterianTV
    @FyterianTV Месяц назад

    what is the "f me" shield? 0.o

  • @Vally375
    @Vally375 Месяц назад

    The mic worked this time W

  • @greedsin555
    @greedsin555 Месяц назад

    off hand star fist

  • @zowbaid89
    @zowbaid89 Месяц назад

    You’re on PlayStation????? I thought you played this on PC.

  • @jeannemoder
    @jeannemoder Месяц назад

    do these guys just not have vigor or something they're getting two shot 😅

  • @LuckyTrout
    @LuckyTrout Месяц назад

    I feel like everyone misreads the item description it doesn't get bonus damage from sacred infusion its get a big scaling bonus from elemental infusions. Like putting the flame art infusion buffs the faith scaling from B to A it can some pretty crazy ar with the drawback of multiple elements on it.

  • @HeinzBeanz2002
    @HeinzBeanz2002 Месяц назад

    8:50 I KNEW I WASN’T THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED, the moment this torch becomes more popular the PVP scene will have more to worry about that a Vyke’s spear.

  • @mrdoomman97
    @mrdoomman97 Месяц назад +1

    greathammer moveset is 10x better 1h but obv you lose HA

  • @ferbsol2334
    @ferbsol2334 Месяц назад

    With sacred blade in faith is best

  • @windowsdefender7685
    @windowsdefender7685 Месяц назад

    kind of unplayable without some wiggling. people just roll

  • @balmain2496
    @balmain2496 Месяц назад

    Love this weapon

  • @russellthechamp9236
    @russellthechamp9236 Месяц назад

    Why did you block the guy before fighting?

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez Месяц назад +1

    21:21 - "I saw him take out that sacred seal and I knew his fate was sealed" is a raw-ass bar to just drop without warning

  • @Sanji_Vinsmoke_69
    @Sanji_Vinsmoke_69 Месяц назад +4

    12:34 lmfao I swear soulsborne elitists will call anything they don't like "cheese".. ooor it's just a good strategy.. lmfao it can literally be used to call your strategy "cheese" by using throwing pots if they play defensive and then you use your hammer if they play offensive..

    • @ScottJund
      @ScottJund  Месяц назад +6

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    • @ediot1426
      @ediot1426 Месяц назад +1

      In a game like elden ring there are alot of cheesy ways to kill people in pvp. Using a projectile when someone's playing passive against a weapon that already has trouble hitting people is not the same as dominating the entire arena with 2 spells that were barely balanced for pvp in the first place. This is all coming from somebody who hates playing pvp more than anything in elden ring!

  • @drnolegs797
    @drnolegs797 Месяц назад

    Dynasts finesse iz cewl.

  • @Too-Be-Decided
    @Too-Be-Decided Месяц назад

    Scott please. I've been seeing it since the game came out.
    please remove the ARROWS

  • @socordya8264
    @socordya8264 Месяц назад

    It's now much harder for great weapons to hyperarmor through each other in 1.12. There's a reddit post showing the numbers you can find with google. In 1.10 they could infinite trade into each other it was kind of stupid.

  • @slide699
    @slide699 Месяц назад

    Scott can you do Elden ring bingo

  • @Vymix
    @Vymix Месяц назад

    200k, gg!

  • @bigirononmyhip3812
    @bigirononmyhip3812 Месяц назад

    Why not use the deflect tear

  • @sicklyman1
    @sicklyman1 Месяц назад +2

    what game is this

  • @devasauruswrex6251
    @devasauruswrex6251 Месяц назад

    oh cool

  • @bruuuuuuuuhhhh
    @bruuuuuuuuhhhh Месяц назад

    Guten tag. Love this weapon.

  • @kuma9239
    @kuma9239 Месяц назад

    18:58 bruh

  • @radagonsoreseal3457
    @radagonsoreseal3457 Месяц назад

    Bonk

  • @killroy1117
    @killroy1117 Месяц назад

    Goodbye for a while Scott, I love your videos but can’t stand Dbd brain rot.