Simplified: India's new helmet law | PowerDrift
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- On June 1, 2021, India's new Motorcycle Helmet Quality Control Order went live. The order was proposed nearly two years ago, when the new 1200g weight limit immediately caused a furore. Fortunately (thanks to your feedback), the weight limit was reset to 1500g again though the lowered performance criteria remains unchanged. But what does this law mean for you? How does it change the ISI-mark's deployment and acquisition for motorcycle helmets? Can you wear your ECE- or DOT-compliant helmet in India now? Shumi has all the answers and they're Simplified!
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So what does this mean for people who already own AGV or SHOEI helmets?
In case if someone uses an Arai helmet ! Will it cause to stop my vehicle by police ?
@@aannurag don't really understand why they would ban ECE helmets,when they're more superior. I was in an accident and wore a ECE certified helmet that saved my life. Had it been an ISI helmet I'm sure I would have had serious injuries. I have both ECE and ISI certified helmets and the strength and quality is just world's apart.
Explain types of quality of fuel
Sticker shops will soon have an ISI template ready 😂
Only way for those having Arai and other brands at home.🙄😭
I went to comment box to type something similar 🤣
I thought to put an ISI sticker on my AXOR helmet
Already got one for my HJC 😂😂
Gulli gulli main shoor hai steelbird wala chor hai
Just what I was thinking
The problem with this law is that since BIS standards do seem lower than ECE, even though it is derived from it, that would mean that international makers can reduce their quality to create helmets specific to India so that they just clear Indian standards. Which in effect means cheaper but relatively unsafe helmets compared to the ones sold internationally by these manufacturers. I have a big problem with that as I feel if one manufacturer does it, others will follow suit. Conversely this could also result in more SMK like helmets built with Indian partnership.
I doubt any international manufacturer would build a lower quality helmet, and risk tarnishing it's global image... What I do see is international brands just saying 'bye bye' and leaving the Indian market, as have many other international businesses done because of obstacles to functioning here.
@@horror478 Agree. But I feel they can get around the tarnishing of image question by branding it as something else entirely. Something along the lines of Bybre by Brembo. Not saying Bybre are bad just that I would prefer Brembo.
But you guys are missing the point here... For eg someone in India is buying an AGV in India he is doing because of the quality and if they have lowered it's quality why would you go for it. So an AGV will never reduce its quality and in India the investment in big bikes is increasing and everyone one related to this will definitely want to enter based on the market we have and manufactures neglecting India in anything will pay the price. So don't worry
@@horror478 if these helmet have high quality they should pass isi why lower quality
I have a doubt...if those international makers has high level of safety ranking and standard...I am sure they could clear ISI tests too.... what's the big deal in that !
In my mind I am laughing with the idea of how will I be explaining a police officer that my RPHA 11 is a far safer helmet than a ISI certified helmet…
Exactly.....even if they do, they'll still fine you.... because they just want to take tour money. Safety wafety ki kise padi hai....
@@UnShEeP924 so true… *sigh with sadness*
A ₹500 sounds convincing enough! ☠️
You can simply hand him over the helmet and they can weigh it in their hands for that matter xD.
Baki jisko paisa chahiye hoga woto hairstyles illegal keh kar bhi chalan katega xD
What if they break that😬😢
Shumi is that teacher whose class is the one class you look forward to attend always !
Hahah! That's true!
And 100% attendance 👌🏻
Completely agree but disappointed with his end note on this one. A rare occurrence indeed.
True that 🙌🏼
Agreed
Welcome to India ... there's problems for every solution
100rs+ petrol price , lots of tax for a motorcycle, now helmet price is gonna shoot up, i think its better to buy a bicycle 😭 rather than to sell my kidney
A lot of people are actually doing that, buying high end bicycles. Biking has got more expensive, no doubt due to fuel price , road tax etc. Today I filled Shell regular petrol @ ₹107 in Pune ! Although I share the same feeling as yours, being a cyclist too, I would suggest you take up cycling if you can..
Hamara desh mahan 😊
That is exactly what the Govt. wants!!
@@nakhotshot lol, modiji 1st told us he rised the petrol price to build bathroom for poor people, 😅 i hope they building them and people started to shit peacefully
@@GNNPLAYER ohhhhhh
I would say just put on a printed ISI sticker for the moment on your ECE or DOT helmet. Might save your money from challan 😂😂😂😂😂
Thug life😂🔥
I agreee😂😂😂
So that means wearing a non ISI helmet is also illegal ?
@@georgevarghese1841 yes it is in india 😂😂
Thats a 5 lakh fine for doing that.
Good imported helmets aren't just gonna go poof! At most, they'll register themselves under ISI and prices will just shoot up coz of taxes. (The government isn't that dumb I guess. They're just greedy. As usual!)
Ever since this year has begun, or even last year - we've started seeing different ways wherein the amounts for the penalties has skyrocketed. Not just in terms of traffic rules and stuff.
It's very clear to the citizens that it's to cover the losses of lockdown. Afterall, it's us who has to bear all this.
*Sigh!* (Guess we'll just go with buying a bunch of ISI stickers for now.) 🙃
Sorry to say, but some of these imported helmets, wouldn’t actually pass through our Indian ECE (ISI) standards, they are far more stricter than foreign countries!
@@streetsquiid5615 If by foreign country, you mean Namibia, then you might be correct. (Also, it just seems funny to me spotting a superbike with a dud wearing a desi ISI helmet riding it!)
Rajdeep Das it might sound silly but believes me Our Indian standards are actually far stricter than you believe. For easy understanding, try to watch some helmet certification videos of fortnine. A 3000 helmet at 20000 helmet will protect more of less the same, the weight, comfort, noise levels and features are the parameters where they differ.
Atleast they should recognise and legalise the premium helmets with ece & snell certification thats already in the streets.
I have a doubt...if those international makers has high level of safety ranking and standard...I am sure they could clear ISI tests too.... what's the big deal in that !
@@kartikbaswana What about the existing helmets in circulation?
If the law doesn't recognize the higher certifications than it's ethical to apply an ISI sticker to your existing helmet.
When it comes to precious life I'd rather trust companies whose products adhere to evidence-based global standards than a lower ISI standard designed to lower the bar that Indian manufactures have to meet.
@@deus_ex_machina_ yes they are allowed as after 1 June which all will be manufactured will must have ISI mark
N police will cut your challan of one don't have ISI mark ones
BIS asking international helmet companies for proof is like; jo insan sirf maggi banana janta ho wo michelin star chef se uske job ka proof mange....what ridiculousness
Literally nai lene ka bro. Try to see through. 🤔🤣
Hahahahahahaha!
Well said👌
I have a doubt...if those international makers has high level of safety ranking and standard...I am sure they could clear ISI tests too.... what's the big deal in that !
@@kartikbaswana Its not about clearing the imported helmets with ISI standards, which they can easily do. But the fact that BIS has chosen a time at which it has chosen to do this.
For every company to send its helmets for testing and approval for selling, we don't know how much time it's going to take and the move seems like an "out of spite" move by BIS. THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
So help me understand, if am owning a ece, DOT or snell helmet, can the cops fine me as per rule or can I get away explaining them that these standards surpass the isi rating?
They wouldn't care if it surpasses the isi rating. Challan kat denge sidha. There has been many instances since this law got out.
The cops won't know the level of certification so they would fine you anyway.
Try to avoid cops man, you should know their intentions they just want to delibratle impose fine ,seize our bikes , provide us with lame excuse and loot us... Even I faced the same situation
So in summary it means I need to make an ISI sticker for my helmet 🤔
When caught by cops ,You have to provide mahatma gandhi ji certified document 😂
Being in the Homologation department for some years now my experience in EU is usually the manufacturer can negotiate with the type approval authority showing the test results of the tests carried out according to ECE or any higher/similar standards and use those test results to obtain the national approval.
Please make a video on Fuel prices next! I'm sure people are so pumped to hear about that from an automotive journalist since all we have are politicians ranting and making no sense.
Probably for making us switch to the ev vehicles
What about riders who presently own international brand helmets? They are liable to get fined if caught by police??
Was just about to post this question myself. Will we as riders who presently own international brand helmets be fined?
@@revyaanshu let's see what's there in store for many riders who invest in better quality helmets..,
Just put an ISI sticker. Will do the job.
The non-ISI helmet (good, bad or ugly) was always illegal. Nothing has changed.
We need to do big strikes protests nothing else
Asking international manufacturers to adhere and get approved by Indian standards totally makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that knowing we have weaker standards, we are asking manufacturers who have proven their quality to spend extra to prove it.
I have a doubt...if those international makers has high level of safety ranking and standard...I am sure they could clear ISI tests too.... what's the big deal in that !
@@kartikbaswana They have to set up labs and other facilities and the entire process of getting approved will take a lot of money. The manufacturers might not have a choice but to charge consumers even more.
ECE certified helmets here is the student who already cleared the class 12th board exams and was in college but now asked to clear school's class 6th final exam if he wants to continue reading in that college and earn a degree. (Fact: people/ministers who are making these laws in the country seems to have failed to earn their basic engineering degrees in college or I doubt they ever went to college)
Haha
This rule has been under constant iterations ever since Steelbird setup their biggest manufacturing unit in India, instead of lowering the safety standards to favour local manufacturers either meet or try to exceed the quality standards set internationally, this move out rightly looks like a suitecase lobby by local manufacturers.
Shumi i have a question. How safe are ISI marked helmets to use while riding super bike on road or on track
It's always PD that makes awareness of safety and new information in every aspects....
Always?? 🤣
We do try! Do let us know if you want to cover something!
@@powerdriftofficial shumi is just awesome 👌
I thought you meant Police Department... lol...
Shumi why don't you make a video on best helmets available under different price segments? It will be really helpful for those who don't know abc of Helmets.
Then the solution is to learn about helmets and not ask for recommendations.
PD will need specialized testing equipment to make such a video and the sheer amount of helmets available in every price bracket makes this nigh impossible. Firstly there are different helmet formats like full, half, foldable, and more, and even there there exists sub categories like sport, moto, etc. Secondly, helmets are different for men and women. So the selection is really very wide. The best thing to do is research on what you want in your helmet, shortlist the ones you like and then watch/read reviews if possible and then buy. Atleast that's what I do.
Buddha khud akad ke 50k ka helmet phenta hai aur sabko bolta woh lo .. dont expect this guy to try anything apart from shiny expensive brands
Well.. when isi is a much lower standard that ece, Snell etc.. it hilarious that someone decided to push this again..
this is basically to attack import helmets.... many indian brands have even brought no-indians brands in india.
Great video..... as always sensei shoomi...... While listening this..... It would be great if you can make a video on different types of helmets and their pros and cons along with appropriate usage....... I am sure that would be informative for many.......
Thank you so much ...I literally been searching and reading stuff regarding the new law but still confused in the end ...but i think this short vedio is more understandable than the long description's . ...✌🏾👍
Tvs helmets have dot ece and isi certification. Those are premium (racing) and budget ( xpod) helmets. I am thinking of buying one
Problem is that TVS xpod doesn't have clear visor option. Have to buy one separately. I have seen user experience of it they said the padding isn't of good quality.
@@murugeshd3026 how is tvs racing?
Axor Street
We're evolving just backwards
Great videos @PowerDrift. Been following for years and have a suggestion: If 4k 60fps videos are too much to ask you can consider uploading 1080p 60fps, they will look much better than the choppy-looking current videos.
Hi, where it's best to do service for our motorcycle?, Respective companies service center or local mechanic shed.
This has made the entry of new players tough,
and less competition means higher prices.
Chapri KTM nibbas : Hemlet kaiku mangta sar pe baal hae na chhatri maafik...
😂
I dnr understand. Pls can anyone explain. I happen to have an axor helmet that is dot and ece certified but not isi.
So cb the cops stop me and trouble or not?
Shumi said it doesnt change anything fr the end user, but i dnt knw. Got me cnfused a bit...
Pls cn anyone guide?
I searched my entire house for a ISI sticker, finally found it on the water heater in the bathroom. I will peel the sticker carefully and put it on my SHOEI helmet. How’s the idea?
You'll be penalised heavily bro!
Feels like Ambani and Adani are entering into helmet business. 😏
Ohhhhhhh.......
Modiji asked Indian citizens to buy products from Indian manufacturers. But himself shifted from Ambassador to a 7 series and also uses an iPhone whereas asks everyone else to use Micromax. Ache din kiske aa gaye dikh raha hai.
@@vek2901 waah Modiji waah. What a master stroke.😂
Hell yeah
@@vek2901 Hyppocricy ki bhi seema hoti hai.......
This is like asking the formula 1 car to prove that the F1 car can beat the f3 car😆😆😆
Shumi you are such a gem..what an incredible way of teaching us 😇😍
My axor helmet has only ece and dot certification am I okay to use it without getting a fine??
One of the many reasons why I subscribed to the channel, for such informative videos which none of the other automotive channels do..!!
Always happy to help! And we have more coming up!
thank you guys so much, info on this was really difficult to find.
Glad we could help!
Make a video on different types of chassis architecture and how they influences the handling and ride quality, advantage and disadvantage
At 3:19 when he said BUT, I was thinking he will start 'teri nazaro ne.......'
🤣
Making the end product expensive or not, riders who pitch in for safety will still buy them.
The only problem I see is, will the manufacturers go the extent in spending a lot of money to get a local government certificate to cater a market where their sales isn’t promising. Most customer base here in our country is from a rider who is aware of what he wants over his head and knows the value of his head. Not sure even if that’s 1% of the total helmet users in the country.
Firstly, most manufacturers haven’t entered the market themselves, it’s usually the seller who imports and sells it to in places where there is demand for such helmets. Not sure if and when these manufacturers will go the extent to spend a lot on a market with annual sales figures of less than 100 units?
My question to Schumi is which Helmet will you wear to ride on now onwards? Since as per law the Arai you are using is illegal ( as per my understanding ** )...
😀
Oh I’m still wearing the best I can afford. That would still be an Arai
@@shu_mar Thanks.
For bolstering my thoughts of wearing my MT helmet even now on...😁
My question is: I have a LS2 combat series of helmet and do I use them while riding or do i put it in the display rack and do I buy a ISI helmet to use ? Because the helmet had been with me for 10 years now
Very well explained. Can we have a video on BHP & Torque and how it translates to the performance of a vehicle.
Talk straight,now INDIA want it's "tor paani" "khiraaj" from AGV SHOIE ARAI etc lol
M hey to mumkin hey .
Now these helmets going to be more expensive 😭
Iam pretty sure Shumi would make a great diplomat. Calm, composed and reasonable. I am not sure if we deserve Shumi.
Anyways awesome content as always.
Thanks!
Hahaha! He loves to help us understand thing! Literally makes him happy!
hiii same pfp guy :)
I have ECE certified so now is it legal to use or I have to use Steelbird or some other ISI certified helmet.. Need help on this..
Great video, Shumi! Thank you for enlightening us of the new law. Are the international helmets required to have an ISI mark now?
You're welcome, Rohan!
Yes, all helmets that are sold in India need to be ISI certified.
Government: All helmets from international brands be it AGV, Arai, Airoh, Shoei etc should pass BIS test.
Foreign companies: chal chal apne baap ko mat sikha!!!!
@shubahan De ....what's wrong when any product is asked to be standard tested... If they're good enough they'll pass....every country has its own standard... To allow a brand just bcoz it's foreign and not to ask questions is really stupid ....this check will be there everyone .....end of story... Its high time we come out slave mentality and have a common law
The stupidity is somewhere else. I hope you understood it well.
@@ripper7834 yea it can get tested but some quality standards are international
International helmet companies now be like " khtm...Tata...goodbye...gaya"
Wonderfully explained 👍🏼
Still not clear whether I should continue using my ECE certified HJC? Also what helmets are Powerdrift superbike Riders sporting when they are executing bike reviews or rides now?
Thank you for clarifying many doubts we had.... I have two questions.... (the second one is for the government 😅)
1. What happens to those who already own the helmet?!...
2. Although it is understandable that when a company should show that it fits the standard, since ours is a less strict version of ECE, shouldn't it automatically be approved??
I'm no expert but you're questions no.2 : No, it would not be that simple my friend , it would take lots and lots of time to finish the paper work( plus it would be expensive ( the government & laws just doesn't work that way )
If a helmet is ece certified, comparison of the tests of ece and isi should be able to determine if something passing ece will pass isi as well. That should not require actual testing.
My SMK helmet with ece certification weights 1600 g. Does it mean it violates the ece certification by having weight above 1500 g
Won't this affect the present pricing of the helmets?
they will become more cheap in quality :(
Im using 200₹ helmet brought from street which has ISI and DOT certification 😆😆😆💥😂
well this can save you from chaalan but cant save your life.. choice is yours.
@@AmanPatel-ye6im its ISI and DOT certified dude
@@Rohit-uy5xv my guy, dot certification barely does nothing. Watch FortNines video on it
I have an Axor helmet with ECE and DOT certification, will this cause me trouble then?
Hi, I have AXOR (ECE and DOT certified) helmet..so can i use it in india now or not?
As far as I know only KYT helmets are the ones that get ISI certification in india.
Axor Street
This is about additiobal taxes masking as safety policies lol
yes , but no ! 😂😂😂
Wow, that was some in depth research the right way 👌
Hi PD Army , Please suggest me which company helmet (full face cover) is best for RE Himalayan. & What about RE helmet is it good
So Indian govt is more concerned about the economic aspect rather then the safety of Indians.
One who buys a bike which is above 50k(min price of bije which starts in india) wont find it difficult to buy a good helmet costing 2k
Just Matt wrap it put steelbird sticker in front and isi in back💀
what about SMK and axor helmets which have ECE and DOT ?
No ISI? Illegal!
World's largest two wheeler market. Yet most doesn't care about or talk about safety gears. When asked, all they care is their hair style. This happens even in my family. Tried to buy good quality helmets, they said its bulky and blah blah...
Finally we have yet to get our selves educated in regards to two wheeler safety gears.
This rule has nothing to do with the safety of people but more of the govt wanting to shell out some money from these brands in turn also increasing the price of the helmets too
If helmets are isi marked it should also be certified by their respective countries Also
Could you suggest the best helmets we can buy now post this ban
Awesome information about helmets 👍. Loved the way of explaination by shumi sir ❤️❤️
Thanks a ton, Rajveer!
And here I was thinking about upgrading to a DOT certified helmet, from my potato ISI helmet.
But, what about older, “Non-isi” helmets?
When the cops check, they will look if your helmet is ISI certified. Irrespective of when it it was made.
@@powerdriftofficial So, how would one get their 2-year-old ECE helmet certified by ISI or BIS, in case the honorary system doesn't exist?
@@milindpradeep8874 good question ...but unfortunately PD don't have the answer 👍
@@amalbrsajan276 Fair enough, I wasn't expecting them to either. Just curious about it, that's all.
@PowerDrift
So if i wanted to buy a helmet from a US website and get it shipped to India, would i be able to still get it through customs?
It's always a pleasure to watch 'simplified!
Can't we get ISI stickers seperately to paste on any imported ARAI,HJC,AGV helmets....Issue solved....Haahahaha
@@brendonfernandes2877 +100!
1st click. Powerdrift give me heart ❤️🙏🏻
What if I want to import a specific helmet from abroad, which is ECE certified but that manufacturer does not sell in India and the numbers are not high enough for them to go through the entire process? Say something like a Sedici which I plan to get when I or one of my contacts travel abroad?
Superb & simple way of explaining
Um, how about fixing the goddamn roads for safety purpose 🙃😀
+600
Indian government: we don't do that here .......(infinity war reference)
Already we are getting substandard tyres for cars and bikes. Enthusiasts are getting shat on by the Indian government.
We were used to paying exuberant prices and taxes for performance tyres because we cared about safety and performance. Now no amount of money can help you, you have to buy shitty tyres for your cars and bikes :(
Indian government really really hates vehicles idk why
starting with shit roads to ban on modification
What about tyres? I'm missing context
Can we see a video/podcast on intercoms and options for beginners
Speaking as a commoner, helmets in our weather is quite uncomfortable and then there this cliche that people loose their hair or affects scalps/ dries scalp etc. (may be true as well due to composite of shell) This preceeds the safety awareness. I hope PD comes up a podcast to break these myths (or magical work around) and enlighten commoners like us about small effective unknown tricks that makes helmets so super comfortable that we probably dare never take it off.
See Episode 1 of the PowerDrift Podcast please
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This new helmet law is made to make customer pay even more tax, TDS and additional charges...etc what good is it to lower the existing standards and get stupid ISI certification...
View the video properly dude
Just want to get to know what happens to the helmets which users already have with ece and dot and not use.
Will that be legal to use in India?
Which is better, MT Revenge 2 or SMK Titan (non-carbon fiber)?
Basically this shows how uneducated our government is. The ask may be reasonable. But why can't they just see the testing standards and see that these dot/ece helmets are far superior. Why don't they just announce and mark it in their law that these certifications are exempt. Rubbish. Kya achhe din.. yeh tho phir license Raj vaapis leke aa gaye..
Best thing to do as a biker...leave India and ride happily and safer ever again💯
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I'm planning to get smk, axor or axxis, should I wait or should I go for it?
മലയാളി പൊളിയല്ലേ🔥
This is all reasonable, every manufacturer should be tested by indian standards, the same way indian manufacturers are made to follow their standards
How could this be reasonable?
Isi standards are toned down version of ece standards, so if a helmet is ece certified then it will automatically be isi certified.
Either india should create their own standards which are completely different from ece and as good as ece or better than ece then this all will be reasonable
@@harish00732 no one cares until they get it tested here, the govt or isi doesnt know if it cleared dot or the manufacturer has jist pasted a sticker.
Every manufacturer can claim things but "TRUST ME BRO, I TESTED IT" is not a way things work in testing or manufacturing.
Even indian manufacturers will later claim they tested but they can send their 2000 rs helmet for testing to ISI then these big firms dont have to worry, just send samples and follow the countrys law.
The same way all foreign car makers have to follow BS6 despite them clearing euro emissions norms. Its a standard practice, you follow norms of the land.
@@hiteshadhikari finally consumers are going to use these helmets for their safety so they have to trust the sticker which are present in their helmet either this be a isi or ece. So you are saying if isi sticker is present then we can trust it and if ece or dot is present then don't trust that.
We have to trust all the good manufacturers.
Consumers are not going to test their helmet and once it clear then they will buy a new same one.
@@harish00732 yep exactly what i am saying. U only trust when its approved by local body. If the helmet clears dot ece etc, the company should have no problem sending them for tests, indian manufacturers are not stupid tht they have to send theirs for testing to isi labs and then to labs of other countries with their standards in order to sell their product in those markets.
Having higher safety is always good but if you wish to sell a helmet at 20k, better get it processed as all others do
Harish, do you know. Ls2 helmets sold in India are sub standard than the ls2 sold at us, Europe.
So ls2, mt, axxor and must helmets are banned in race tracks
Here's something no one is talking about. Getting an ISI mark helmet in 630mm size or larger. Even 620mm sizes are rarely found in the market. I guess people with large heads will have to settle with a broken head or 4 wheels.
This is true. Most ISI-wala brands make woefully inadequate accommodations for people who smaller or larger than average heads.
Still not clear abt those who already bought an helmet without ISI..Like LS2,AXXOR etc
It's evolving, just backwards
lmao
Can you explain if we can use bigger section tyres on our bikes or not and yes then the pros and cons with it.. I mean obviously opting to bigger section we will have our reasons but if there's any additional points to it.
And love your videos. Infact I only wait for your videos for every machine that launches or is going to lauch. Amazing content. ❤️
Very well explained ! Kudos
Thank you Gaurav!
Great explaination as always shumi. 👍