I recently built a “Recce” for the first time, and I love the concept. It’s as close as we can get to a “do-all” rifle. -Colt upper and lower -Criterion barrel w/ headspaced bolt -Badger Ord gas block -Modlite PLH-v2 w/ Modbutton -SLR IonLite rail -MBUS Pros -Badger Ord 1.70 mount -Razor 1-6 with HS509T offset -LaRue MBT trigger -VLTOR A5 buffer system
Glad I found this channel. Running my 16” with a TA33 and offset rmr, just bought the piggyback mount to give yall’s advice a go. I followed you guys on fb and found I was like 5 days behind the remote memberships filling up for JTAC ranch. I’ll be ready to pounce on it next year though.
Great job on this! IMHO a RECCE rifle has a 14.5 or 16 inch barrel, a LPVO, a MRDS (offset), and possibly a bipod. A Mini-RECCE has the same specs, but a shorter barrel. An SPR (Special Purpose Rifle) is usually more tailored to mid and longer range use. It has an 18 inch barrel, a Medium Power Optic, a MRDS (offset), and a bipod.
Love the top hat 509T . I got away from the 45 degree offset . I have 12.5 Mini Recce with Centurion HF Barrel , TR24 1-4× , 1.60 PEPR Mount , Top Hat 509T , X300U (12 o'clock) , C4 10" Quad Rail and YHM T2 Turbo K with Kurz Kit. This is my go too 556n 300 yards and in. I'm running Black Hills 77g TMK.. For my SPR I went with 12.5" Match Grade Nitride 6ARC With PLX 1-8× GRIFFIN MIL ACSS , 1.60 PEPR Mount , Top Hat 509T , Rein Micro , MI 11.5" Combat MLOK Rail , and YHM R2 Resonator K with Kurz Kit . I decided to go with 6ARC because it's an incredible cartridge . With 12.5" I'm getting 1600+ FPS and 600 Ft pounds of energy at 600 yards . Even at 800 yards its 1375 FPS with 450+ Ft pounds of energy. Realistically I built it for 600 yards and in . I'm using Black 105g BTHP , 106g TAP or 108g ELDM. I wanted 1 upper that has shorty barrel but still capable of 600+ yards . That's when I found the 6ARC . It's not a traditional SPR but it can achieve about the same results when compared to real MK12 out to 600 yards . Yet its 6" shorter and pounds lighter I also have 18" 6ARC that's gonna be more of CSASS setup paired with 3-15× EBR7C MRAD.. If I were to build do all be all Rig . It would be 13.7 or 14.5 6ARC . It can handle medium sized Game out to 300 yards , bang steel out to 900 yards and be used for CQB ( Yeah a bit much for CQB but it will work ).. Centurion MK12 MOD 1 SPR is my absolute favorite MK1W variant. I'm also a sucker for NSW 15.1" Recce Rifles. I used to be a cloner when I was younger . I've had 0 issues with any YHM Cans . Granted I dont have 10k rounds through them but I have 1k easily through each Can . What are the issues with YHM cans . I get it they are little gassy but I just BRT Tuned Gas Tubes to tame it down . I can talk guns for hours . I'm gonna love this channel . Me and my buddies do stupid shit like text each other top 5 gun and knife lists or if you could only own 3 . I love US Military small arms history .
Just subbed today. Love the "proof of concepts" you guys are attempting to tackle. Also love that you guys are in Florida-- I was born and raised there. Nice seeing "home" from afar...
Omg so glad I found this channel. Wracking my brain between lpvo and red dot. I have two rifles one has an lpvo the other has a red dot. Like both for different reasons. So put both on each rifle. Duh! Thanks for the great video. Like how you even have a red dot on your longer range spr/dmr. So all the rifles in this video are 0-500 yard guns. Love it!
It's interesting to me that you find the red dot on top the LPVO more natural than the 45° cant... I'm exactly the opposite. I find the 45° cant much more natural, idk why. To each their own I guess... if it works for you, it ain't stupid, right?
Dude that statement is so so so true, if it doesn't work for you then stick with what makes you the most effective especially when it comes to proven solutions, and it boils down to personal preference.
Here is the other advantage of having a 45 degree cant is your cheek never has to leave the stock and transition is alittle faster getting back on target with the scope.
Like any tool, it’s about your needs and capabilities. If you can’t hit the broad side of a barn with a your recce at 150m you don’t need a long gun for 600m shots. On the other hand, if you’re living in Arizona or Kansas you’re more likely to take longer shots vs here in FL where you’re singing “wide open spaces” if you got 200-300m LOS in the wild lol
My favorite factory 77gr OTM is from MAG TECH it's as equal accurate as my handloads. I use Primary Arms optics and I've built the MK12 MOD-O & MOD-H using PRI handguards and 18" 1/7 Douglas barrel's. I'm with y'all I love the MK12's!!!
@@barrelandhatchet they are getting harder to find. I'll see if I have an extra box somewhere. Last summer I had 4000 rounds of my 77gr OTM handloads stolen and 300 rounds of it was the mag tech ammo. If I can find a box I'll get with you and send it so y'all can test it out.
I like 18+ for an spr. BA makes an 18" DMR profile that works well, but it's a chunky boi. My recce setup is using a now discontinued Faxon heavy straight fluted 16". Both barrels absolutely love the Hornady black 62gr (if you can find it).
Discontinued? Man I lucked out. I have that same Faxon as an 18" and it weighs 31oz vs the BA SPR profile barrel of the same length being 41oz. So 10oz weight savings with the Faxon.
I built a beautiful & very effective 18” Wilson Combat SS fluted barrel SPR a couple of years ago. I have a 10.3. Now I’m thinking of a Sons Of Liberty 13.9
Thank God I stumbled across this channel. I loved everything about this. From the trashy service rifles, the optics configuration, etc. I have multiple rifles that look identical to these. I piggyback rds, not just micros on my spr's as well. You can see an image of a few if you click on my image, and go to my page you can see my mk14 and an FNC. I've actually been running a t2 on top of my ACOG and it's been triggering the insta bois. I've never considered running a riser with my Acogs. I have multiple A2's with Acogs, but have never even seen the KRAM. I dig this ❤️. My go to is SPR is my MODO; the MOD1 is superior, (full PRI so I don't believe it's correct) and I get so much sht for it. Us service rifle guys are a dying breed. The GuCcI and Peasant seem to be the current trend. Though it can sometimes be hard to justify $2k for an accessory that's 3x the price, at a fraction of the performance of current items. Talking to you Mk4..
Thanks so much for the support! And yes the KRAM is a lifesaver and we love trashy mil guns lol. But def go pick up a KRAM riser. The eye relief adjustment alone life changing!
I still like my skinny 16's. If im in a recon/scouting role (or hunting for that matter) I'm - probably - outside. Negligible weight increase, slightly better ballistics, and most importantly it points well. I get some of the advantages of an SPR (but none of the weight) and don't make too many compromises if I'm indoors. If you are comparing the typical "recce"/gpr and the spr, you're doing it wrong. I try to ask, instead, "how can I get the best qualities of both systems" Great video guys.
The tabor, is def a proven system, Bull pups however require a lot of dedication to train torwards that motion of ergonomics, but those who accept the favor as a soul mate are def, LETHAL
I put together my idea of a RECCE rifle for the terrain I live in. I live around forests and wide open fields so mine is a 14.5 with a 1x4 LPVO, that's it. Slim, light, can do close in woods work and enough magnification to engage across a field. It's more of a defensive weapon than offensive as I am looking to gather intel, not take on 20 guys in a firefight.
@@davidb9323 hahahaha we literally asked the same exact question, so since it's a hot topic episode 4 will be about recce or what we like to call general purpose rifles
@@barrelandhatchet I look forward to learning new things and there are a lot of RECCE rifle builds, they fill the page when I Google RECCE. I am hoping for more on avoiding detection throughout the journey and am excited for GT thermal heli video example. Also interested what you can do with the information gathered, being limited by capabilities as a small force.
@@davidb9323 we will be doing a Reece Series, where we will also have other folks from different professions to hit on specific things that deal with Reece, not just the rifles, however we will have a whole episode dedicated to different types of Reece rifle, trains of thought
I’m older so it’s kinda weird to me cause the term “recce” calls for something like an SBR, a 14” to 16” barrel is a standard rifle that every grunt has and a DMR requires an 18” or 20” barrel or a larger caliber. Still, great conversation!
We will actually be talking about “recce” rifles specifically in episode 4. Which comes out this week and redefining the term to general purpose rifle. We believe somehow recce is being misconstrued, and thought processes are not being put in place when building. Recce is the mission. The gun is the tool. We have been finding out more and more what people are calling their recce rifle, is really just a rifle that would be their go to blaster in a shtf scenario
@@barrelandhatchet - I’ll be looking forward to it. This video caught my attention so I watched then looked elsewhere and got extremely confused. Had to call my son who was a recent Marine. I got a history lesson then had to chuckle. “I got a recce rifle.” AKA “standard issue” in the Marine Corps. LOL Edit - not trying to be a dick, I just didn’t understand why it was being called a recce rifle. A recce rifle in the Selous Scouts was an FAL. I just wasn’t getting it.
@@fanman8102 it’s just a new term that has been generated and usually has a certain type of look to it within the industry that is different than what standard mil uses. So we were kinda just bringing things back down to earth, finding what fits you. What are your goals and will serve you best, despite the job you plan on doing
I've been trying to watch all of this video through out the day but kept getting bothered at work. Well I finally get home and my 18" 6 ARC Proof research barrel showed up. So now I'm putting together a 6 ARC MK-12ish SPR. Can't wait to see what it can do.
its funny you say that, because we actually did a 6.5 Grendal franked mk12, and were planning to do a 6mm ARC version, however ammo was a bit to scarce for us. Wisemen Company actually made a sick 6.5 Grendal Mk12 and it shoots lasers. 1000 yard gun all day!
@@barrelandhatchet I used an Alexander Arm's 6.5 Grendel for my first snipers challenge match back in 2009 and fell in love with that caliber. Can't wait to see more videos from y'all.
These shorter barreled “Recces” are more like the Afghan concept from 10+ years ago. Although the Recce rifle wasn’t as concrete as the Mk12, it did have some specifics like the PRI tube, 16” Douglas barrel, and a 2.5-10 Leupold. It’s really the middle ground between the SPR and what you guys are calling Recces.
Went to Jtac for an event you guys hosted recently. Had a blast, well done! 🥃Just swapped in that same 13.0 Hanson. Looking forward to stretching her legs out.
For "Recce" or General Purpose I use a KAC SR15 (mod2) in 14.5" instead of 16". She has an Eotech with 2 dots so have the new Eotech 5x for dot #2. Haven't been able to zero the 2nd dot but I believe it's designed to stretch the little 5.56 to its limit. They say 1x per 100 meters so 5x for 500 meters is good. Have thought about LPVOs, Night Force has a killer military discount but haven't pulled the trigger on it yet (Leupold too got the MK5 cheap). Kinda waiting to put NF glass on a 6.5CM SR25 upper in the future.
Iv heard nothing but people tell me recently KAC is a massive waste of money most of these people being x mitary. They said for 2.5 grand they expected better accuracy out the box. Whats your opinion on this?
@@mattellis6040 I dont really judge anything but a chome lined bolt gun on accuracy standards. When I was in we used the M24 for accuracy. The m16/m4 did fine out to 300-400 size of a human silhouette. It will drop people easy. Im personally happy w/ KAC but money isnt an issue for me so I just stick with them and LMT. If money was Id prob look at stuff with Daniel Defense barrels, ADM rifles, home bullds with FN barrels and old school Colt 6933 uppers.
Back your red dot zero up to about 75 yards. With a 4.5" height above bore, you'll end up with a very flat trajectory between 25 and 300 yards. With m193 my 20", on the tube mounted dot/SeeAll Open sight, holds low about 2.5" at 25 yards, high 1" at 100 yards, high 2.5" at 175, and low 2" at 300.
I believe it’s the dirty bird anti walk pins that are compatible with Geissele. They still are allowed to rotate. Which I guess Geissele says it needs.
Huge fan of the PA 4-14X44 with DMR HUD reticle, running a tube mounted red dot. I'm specifically running a SeeAll Open Sight on top of mine. Huge fan of KP-15 lowers for a build like this regardless of which barrel length or profile you go with. I'm currently running a Magpul MOE handguard, but upgrading to an ultralight MLOK soon. Running an Inforce light atm. Going to be dropping my PEQ on this build along with a Smith Vortex soon. 20" HBAR 1-8 twist with A2 flash hider atm. I run m193 primarily, but also have a couple of mags of Mock 262s (using AlcoBullets 77 grain rebated boat tails) in my go bag. They're loaded to around 2750-2780 muzzle velocity out of the 20" with a G1 BC of .512 iirc. Using BLC-2 powder ATM. The groups aren't as tight as H4895, but they're tight enough... and slightly faster. Huge fan of 20" HBARs. M16 gang. Debating on building and form 1ing a short stubby suppressor to run on this rifle. I'm thinking around 1.75" outer diameter at around 5-6" long. Gonna try my hand at slanted baffles if I go this route (think washer/spacer flat baffles, but with the spacers cut at 45° angles.)
For me the difference between the two is "medium to long range that can function be pressed into closer usage if needed" for the SPR vs. "Short to medium range that can be pressed into longer usage if needed." for a "Recce" I have a 4-14x44mm Primary Arms FFP scope on a 1.5" Precision Reflex scope mount and top mounted hs407c dot sitting on a Faxon 18" Heavy Fluted Match barrel 1:8 twist 5r rifled in .223 Wylde and a KE Arms KP-15 lower receiver. I wanted it to be light enough to really hump around and I dig the mk12 ish look that it creates. For a "Recce" I'm wanting to build a 13.9-16" mid gas and use an Atibal X 1-10x30mm scope also with a piggybacked 407c, but I don't know of any 35mm scope mounts that have an RMR attachment. I reload PRVI Partizan 75gr OTM bullets because of budget considerations. I can load up about twice as many of those as if I were to buy 77gr mk262 ammo off the shelf. I bought a bunch of reloading supplies during the ammo crisis of 2020 and have been using IMR 4955 powder because that's what was available at the time I ordered.
I caught the Mk12 bug at the beginning of the Covid Shutdowns and built a clone correct MK12 Mod1. Love the way the gun looks and performs. But it is heavy and I shudder having to carry it long distances. Guns like that are IMHO good for stationary positions or where you will have a limited distance to patrol.
Just ran across your guys vid by accident on here and the thing is people think the sbrs are the new guns for whatever goes down but here’s the thing people forget the poor college student with a Walmart savage axis or a mosin making hits out to 500 yards especially with surplus guns cuz they cut their teeth learning their gun and getting accurate.
Love that conversation and listening to the brains spewing data and knowledge. I do have one question with why you use Ballistic Advantage, why do you use them when they have 1/16 twist? Doesn't the 5.56 using have better ballistic results with its a 1/7 or 1/8 twist?
That is sick! currently the Ranch is sold out of membership slots until April of next year, however if you do take formal course from JTAC Ranch, the instructors do give the students an opportunity to sign up for membership.
13.7-14.5” button or 5R rifled barrel getting 2400-2500 FPS from MK262 rounds, while my 416R 3P polygonal rifled 11.5” gets 2500 FPS from MK262. Velocities we’re measured using the magnetospeed V3 chronograph. This clearly shows the superiority of polygonal rifled barrels. I have no idea why it’s not more popular.
nice nice, agreed, also a lot of folks don't know about companies like BA, so these video series will hopefully shed more light for folks during their builds
@@barrelandhatchet I know about Ballistic Advantage. I just built a 14.5 223 wylde, on a WMD nickel boron builders set (15” rail), think it might be a custom designed barrel by my LGS. It looks really good with the pinned muzzle brake just poking out of the hand guard.
Every time I bust out my mk12 with aem 5 can it gets the most attention. Mk18 and other cool builds are great. But the mk12 always gets the looks. Also I love running it and training with it. Just gets expensive because I like to run match stuff in it.
Ok old video but I genuinely hope you respond cause I want to hear you opinion… let’s call that 13.7 or 13.9 a 14 inch barrel basically. Mk12 is 18. Let’s split the difference and have a 16 inch barrel. Let’s stick with BA barrels and go with their 16 inch spr fluted barrel and save 3/4 a pound over the standard 18 inch spr barrel. BAs sister company, AERO, makes super light weight handguards in the Atlas line. Their 13.5 inch handguard is only 10 oz… choose whatever optics system you like ie 1-8, 2-7, 1-10, 2-10 with a top mounted dot. Now I have a gun 3 pounds lighter than a mk12 but it’s ballistically superior to that 13.7. Now I get it, you guys love the mk12. The look, the idea, the history. Same reason I have a mod 1 in 6.5 grendel for medium game hunting. But in terms of a capable rifle in 2022, we have evolved so much since NSW came out with the SPR program. If you are comparing a recce and spr for purely performance in 2022 then let’s keep the guns modern rather than get too tied up in the mk12!
I want to like LPVOs and the SPR and RECCE concepts. I've built RECCE and bought LPVOs. I've trained with them. A RECCE with an LPVO is trying to do multiple things but does nothing as well as a purpose built rifle. I've built SPRs with LPVOs and trained with them, the accuracy is impressive though the terminal ballistics of 5.56 is still anemic beyond 500 meters. An SPR is an attemp to make the 5.56 do what it is not intended to do. Give me a 16" rifle with a red dot + magnifier and I can make that rifle do anything I need it to do and it will do it well. CQB ranges out to 300 or 400 meters is what the AR15 and 5.56 excels at, tactically if I wanted something to reach out beyond that I'm going for a .308. Its not just about hitting the target at range, we have to consider how that round performs in a target at those ranges. Terminal Ballistics should not be ignored.
Just put a red dot on any AR and your good to 300yds(zero). If you know what your doing it's good to 500yds by holding at his head at 400yds and about a foot above his head at 500yds. My 10yr old grand son does it all the time with his 16" cheap DPMS and an Aimpoint red dot.
@@barrelandhatchet We have been blessed with an 800yd field that we practice in all the time. Practice and ballistics makes all the difference. Oh ya and lots of ammo.
My m1a scout is by no means a precision rifle but it’s easily 3moa with iron sights. That being said I would NEVER choose an m1a over a mk12 for a fighting rifle
Hi, just finished listening to the podcast, enjoyed it very much. 2 things though, 1. How do you like the 13.9 ba barrel? Do you notice the weight difference with the hanson cut? As well any accuracy issues with a suppressor on it do to it being a thinner profile? 2. Make a seperate podcast on recce, it was 25min of mk12 and 5 of recce 😂😂 enjoyed it non the less, keep it up!
Hahahah yea true we have a mk12 obsession! The 13.9 BA Hanson has been amazing. Very accurate, and no deviation with the YHM resonator. We used mostly magtec 55 grain FMJ for the 13.9. But we absolutely would recommend that barrel or even full upper from BA. And this is not a paid comment lol.
12.5👑 overall in AR/AK for short and sweet out to too 500,11.5/10.5 for most civilian urban areas out to 350+ w right optic the longest kak is a must huge difference🤣but 16s fine lookin at a 16in 308 MVP patrol for light compact long range heavy hitter takes AR10 mags too 🤷🏽♂️
Anything can be a recce rifle. Some tools are better suited than others, but examples of things to think about, environment, ammo compatibility, aftermarket support, weight, etc
I know a older video but great video….. I use a Criterion Core on my 18” DMR mk 12 ish build but does great with most ammo but with razor core 77 gr I’m getting stupid accuracy…. The Black hills is a bit hotter but staying around 2700 fps I’m getting sub moa I can’t wait to take it out past 400 yards but 50 to 400 is stupid if I do my part
This may be a dumb question, but Im not an expert on ALL the brands, I know some of the really good ones(Daniel defense, FN, Colt, BCM), but who makes THE BEST barrels for accuracy? Non stainless steel. Could you do a top 5 list video. I'm particularly interested in 18-20" lengths.
well we used a ballistic advantage SPR barrel for the mk 12 so economically priced and it shot sub MOA, we would recommend them. Also that is a good idea to do a video about barrels
@@barrelandhatchet I'd really like to see that video. I'm betting Ballistic advantage is great, but for someone who might want to go a notch further in quality and precision/accuracy and not care about the price, specifically when it comes to non ss barrels, which would be best?
I dont understand why everyone wants these shorter length barrels, sometimes with slow twist rates, then put a 1-8 lpvo on it. Recce rifle should be capable of close up work but should shine in medium-long range. Recce is recon and should ideally be done from a distance. If i have to engage at a distance i would be using a longer barrel with a faster twist so i can shoot heavier bullets. Accuracy and lethality at the ranges i would be operating at. 5.56 is a velocity dependant round. A 55gr out of a 13.5" barrel will be lacking in velocity and stabilization so much that your effective range is so close, there wont be a need for a 1-8x.
A good diy way we used to do it was a 550 chord tied and taped to a flashlight body and make a snug fitting green duct tape lens cover for the light, that could squeeze over the lense. Make sure the cordage is short enough where the cap barely is long enough for the lens cover so it doesn’t fall off while walking or firing
I like the look and CQB capabilities of something like a SBR. Most SOF guys run that configuration so you know its good. However, I LOVE the look and all-around capabilities of an SPR/DMR like the M110, Mk12, and SR25. As a taller/bigger guy, I feel all scrunched up holding an SBR. SPR feels much more comfortable.
I want more spr/recce, everyone wants to run sbrs and I think spr/recce rifles are apocalyptic proof rifles
Agreed! Clean hits and reliability is the king of battle in the end.
SBR because a lot of people live in the city, close quarters is the main focus.
@@diedfrombored5295 i suppose, but a 16” is likely plenty small for that.
If u wanna talk about apocalyptic proof rifle, get a flintlock. Where are u gonna find primers for your rifle?
@@crumply5959 in the basement with me.
16 inch bcm enhanced lightweight with a 1-8 and 45 degree red dot. good weight, great range and accuracy.
Boy that is a hard setup to beat! BCM is a tac driving tank of a brand!
Run this setup but leupold mark 6 and it’s noice 👍
I’m just here for the violence.
You would be... should be called wise girls company! 😜
I recently built a “Recce” for the first time, and I love the concept. It’s as close as we can get to a “do-all” rifle.
-Colt upper and lower
-Criterion barrel w/ headspaced bolt
-Badger Ord gas block
-Modlite PLH-v2 w/ Modbutton
-SLR IonLite rail
-MBUS Pros
-Badger Ord 1.70 mount
-Razor 1-6 with HS509T offset
-LaRue MBT trigger
-VLTOR A5 buffer system
That sounds like a solid tool!
How does that buffer system feel compared to stock?
A5 is the way on errything
What length barrel ??
@@YenzHouse 13.9 is what we use for our GPR
I freaking love it, “…wanna get into ballistics?” Sounds like me in any conversation.
Hahahaha yesss
Glad I found this channel. Running my 16” with a TA33 and offset rmr, just bought the piggyback mount to give yall’s advice a go. I followed you guys on fb and found I was like 5 days behind the remote memberships filling up for JTAC ranch. I’ll be ready to pounce on it next year though.
Great job on this!
IMHO a RECCE rifle has a 14.5 or 16 inch barrel, a LPVO, a MRDS (offset), and possibly a bipod. A Mini-RECCE has the same specs, but a shorter barrel.
An SPR (Special Purpose Rifle) is usually more tailored to mid and longer range use. It has an 18 inch barrel, a Medium Power Optic, a MRDS (offset), and a bipod.
Nice build, and thanks for the support!
Is 1-10 medium power?
@@davidb9323 hahaha lol not sure if there is an actual designated zoom catagory
@@davidb9323 that 3-15, 3-18 ranges seems to qualify as medium…
I agree. SPR with a 20 would work too imo.
Love the top hat 509T . I got away from the 45 degree offset . I have 12.5 Mini Recce with Centurion HF Barrel , TR24 1-4× , 1.60 PEPR Mount , Top Hat 509T , X300U (12 o'clock) , C4 10" Quad Rail and YHM T2 Turbo K with Kurz Kit. This is my go too 556n 300 yards and in. I'm running Black Hills 77g TMK..
For my SPR I went with 12.5" Match Grade Nitride 6ARC With PLX 1-8× GRIFFIN MIL ACSS , 1.60 PEPR Mount , Top Hat 509T , Rein Micro , MI 11.5" Combat MLOK Rail , and YHM R2 Resonator K with Kurz Kit . I decided to go with 6ARC because it's an incredible cartridge . With 12.5" I'm getting 1600+ FPS and 600 Ft pounds of energy at 600 yards . Even at 800 yards its 1375 FPS with 450+ Ft pounds of energy. Realistically I built it for 600 yards and in . I'm using Black 105g BTHP , 106g TAP or 108g ELDM. I wanted 1 upper that has shorty barrel but still capable of 600+ yards . That's when I found the 6ARC . It's not a traditional SPR but it can achieve about the same results when compared to real MK12 out to 600 yards . Yet its 6" shorter and pounds lighter
I also have 18" 6ARC that's gonna be more of CSASS setup paired with 3-15× EBR7C MRAD..
If I were to build do all be all Rig . It would be 13.7 or 14.5 6ARC . It can handle medium sized Game out to 300 yards , bang steel out to 900 yards and be used for CQB ( Yeah a bit much for CQB but it will work )..
Centurion MK12 MOD 1 SPR is my absolute favorite MK1W variant. I'm also a sucker for NSW 15.1" Recce Rifles. I used to be a cloner when I was younger .
I've had 0 issues with any YHM Cans . Granted I dont have 10k rounds through them but I have 1k easily through each Can . What are the issues with YHM cans . I get it they are little gassy but I just BRT Tuned Gas Tubes to tame it down .
I can talk guns for hours . I'm gonna love this channel . Me and my buddies do stupid shit like text each other top 5 gun and knife lists or if you could only own 3 . I love US Military small arms history .
that sounds like a killer setup, We also text and comment back and forth for hours lol
Having used a MK12 in my time of service, it is my favorite rifle and would never go without one.... It is my go to
Dude many were jealous of you down range, he who holds the mk12 in battle has much SWAG
@@barrelandhatchet Ya the MK262 ammo was like cigarettes'' in prison, everyone wanted it.
@@madjester2645 and willing to do a foot race with a rattlesnake in a dirt pit to acquire some
I love this I idea of podcast/b role this is great keep it up man. Will there be one on chest rigs/plate carriers?
Hmm maybe, we have done one on IGTV but we can def throw a conversation up on hatchet cast
Great info fellas! Looking forward to listening to the next 3.
Thanks so much for the support!
Just subbed today. Love the "proof of concepts" you guys are attempting to tackle. Also love that you guys are in Florida-- I was born and raised there. Nice seeing "home" from afar...
Can’t believe I just found this channel. Central Florida represent. Great video.
Omg so glad I found this channel. Wracking my brain between lpvo and red dot. I have two rifles one has an lpvo the other has a red dot. Like both for different reasons.
So put both on each rifle. Duh! Thanks for the great video.
Like how you even have a red dot on your longer range spr/dmr. So all the rifles in this video are 0-500 yard guns. Love it!
That’s awesome and thanks for the support!
Glad you guys started this channel , I'm a "recce" and mk12 dude aswell. Keep up the good content !
Thanks so much for the support!!
14.5, 1:7 DSArms chromelined, PA Cyclops Slx 1X Compact Prism w 3x magnifier.....love it.
It's interesting to me that you find the red dot on top the LPVO more natural than the 45° cant... I'm exactly the opposite. I find the 45° cant much more natural, idk why. To each their own I guess... if it works for you, it ain't stupid, right?
Dude that statement is so so so true, if it doesn't work for you then stick with what makes you the most effective especially when it comes to proven solutions, and it boils down to personal preference.
Here is the other advantage of having a 45 degree cant is your cheek never has to leave the stock and transition is alittle faster getting back on target with the scope.
One positive to the top hat is you can use it to key into a general area you want to shoot and just drop your head to get onto the glass.
@@MyLonewolf25 that is so true, something Roy does with long range shooting as well!
Like any tool, it’s about your needs and capabilities. If you can’t hit the broad side of a barn with a your recce at 150m you don’t need a long gun for 600m shots. On the other hand, if you’re living in Arizona or Kansas you’re more likely to take longer shots vs here in FL where you’re singing “wide open spaces” if you got 200-300m LOS in the wild lol
True, true well said!
My favorite factory 77gr OTM is from MAG TECH it's as equal accurate as my handloads. I use Primary Arms optics and I've built the MK12 MOD-O & MOD-H using PRI handguards and 18" 1/7 Douglas barrel's. I'm with y'all I love the MK12's!!!
that is awesome. we will have to check out the magic 77 grain, are they easy to find or pretty rare releases?
@@barrelandhatchet they are getting harder to find. I'll see if I have an extra box somewhere. Last summer I had 4000 rounds of my 77gr OTM handloads stolen and 300 rounds of it was the mag tech ammo. If I can find a box I'll get with you and send it so y'all can test it out.
@@brazzy1467 oh wow that is very generous, and would be a welcome thing to put on film for a future episode
I like 18+ for an spr. BA makes an 18" DMR profile that works well, but it's a chunky boi. My recce setup is using a now discontinued Faxon heavy straight fluted 16". Both barrels absolutely love the Hornady black 62gr (if you can find it).
That is a sweet round
Discontinued?
Man I lucked out. I have that same Faxon as an 18" and it weighs 31oz vs the BA SPR profile barrel of the same length being 41oz.
So 10oz weight savings with the Faxon.
@@ericj6636 I wanna say that BA still produces their SPR barrel, but it shoots super tight groups and it loves 77, 69, and 62 as well
Great podcast format!
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽✊🏽
I built a beautiful & very effective 18” Wilson Combat SS fluted barrel SPR a couple of years ago. I have a 10.3. Now I’m thinking of a Sons Of Liberty 13.9
Sons of livery is awesome and that build sounds like a beauty
Thank God I stumbled across this channel. I loved everything about this. From the trashy service rifles, the optics configuration, etc. I have multiple rifles that look identical to these. I piggyback rds, not just micros on my spr's as well. You can see an image of a few if you click on my image, and go to my page you can see my mk14 and an FNC. I've actually been running a t2 on top of my ACOG and it's been triggering the insta bois. I've never considered running a riser with my Acogs. I have multiple A2's with Acogs, but have never even seen the KRAM. I dig this ❤️.
My go to is SPR is my MODO; the MOD1 is superior, (full PRI so I don't believe it's correct) and I get so much sht for it. Us service rifle guys are a dying breed. The GuCcI and Peasant seem to be the current trend. Though it can sometimes be hard to justify $2k for an accessory that's 3x the price, at a fraction of the performance of current items. Talking to you Mk4..
Thanks so much for the support! And yes the KRAM is a lifesaver and we love trashy mil guns lol. But def go pick up a KRAM riser. The eye relief adjustment alone life changing!
I just stumbled upon this channel. I like theres not a bazillion subscribers and the content is Gold.
@@twiggybones7040 thank you so much for the support!!, we hope to continue to provide dope content
Great video! Thank you for sharing 😎👍
Thanks so
Much for the support Tom!
I still like my skinny 16's. If im in a recon/scouting role (or hunting for that matter) I'm - probably - outside. Negligible weight increase, slightly better ballistics, and most importantly it points well. I get some of the advantages of an SPR (but none of the weight) and don't make too many compromises if I'm indoors. If you are comparing the typical "recce"/gpr and the spr, you're doing it wrong. I try to ask, instead, "how can I get the best qualities of both systems"
Great video guys.
I love BA barrels. I have the hanson in 223 wylde n it is very accurate and consistant.
yeah man that barrel is great!
Im loving my pri upper w/ 1:8 on my mk12. Had the gun about 2 months and its wonderful.
It’s a pain to get on but man it is so worth it and tickles that nostalgia bug
Great content. Love the format
Thanks for the support!
Thank you 😊
Cool to see some fellow Floridians. I’ve heard about JTAC, never been there. I’m over in West Pasco. Good video, got a new sub 🤘🏻
Thanks so much for the support fellow FLogrown Homie
The mk 12 whoops @$$.
And... So does a rack grade M4 with a free float handguard and LPVO.
Amen to that!
I had no idea Roy was on you tube… Awesome
Man these episodes are dope AF!
I love this channel and your content
When talking about realistic battle capabilities the tavor checks off a whole lotta boxes gotta give it credit
The tabor, is def a proven system, Bull pups however require a lot of dedication to train torwards that motion of ergonomics, but those who accept the favor as a soul mate are def, LETHAL
Awesome video guys! Love my mock 12! Kac needs to do some big runs on mk12 rails! Not like there not gonna sell! I'd buy 3 today!
that's awesome! the spirit of the mk12 flows through you and your build
Pisses me off that they are so limited.
Looking forward to the kit episode(s)
So are we homie, so are we
I put together my idea of a RECCE rifle for the terrain I live in. I live around forests and wide open fields so mine is a 14.5 with a 1x4 LPVO, that's it. Slim, light, can do close in woods work and enough magnification to engage across a field. It's more of a defensive weapon than offensive as I am looking to gather intel, not take on 20 guys in a firefight.
true true, and also sometimes a good Reece rifle is the lightest weight one, we will be doing a dedicated Recce Rifle episode for episode 4
@@barrelandhatchet What sparked all the RECCE videos around RUclips this week?
@@davidb9323 hahahaha we literally asked the same exact question, so since it's a hot topic episode 4 will be about recce or what we like to call general purpose rifles
@@barrelandhatchet I look forward to learning new things and there are a lot of RECCE rifle builds, they fill the page when I Google RECCE. I am hoping for more on avoiding detection throughout the journey and am excited for GT thermal heli video example. Also interested what you can do with the information gathered, being limited by capabilities as a small force.
@@davidb9323 we will be doing a Reece Series, where we will also have other folks from different professions to hit on specific things that deal with Reece, not just the rifles, however we will have a whole episode dedicated to different types of Reece rifle, trains of thought
Love your videos and info
Great video. I subbed.
Would so love a M12 but I think I'll build my 13.5 lightweight first, and may even go with a bolt action for my DMR
Not a bad place to start off!
I’m older so it’s kinda weird to me cause the term “recce” calls for something like an SBR, a 14” to 16” barrel is a standard rifle that every grunt has and a DMR requires an 18” or 20” barrel or a larger caliber. Still, great conversation!
We will actually be talking about “recce” rifles specifically in episode 4. Which comes out this week and redefining the term to general purpose rifle. We believe somehow recce is being misconstrued, and thought processes are not being put in place when building. Recce is the mission. The gun is the tool. We have been finding out more and more what people are calling their recce rifle, is really just a rifle that would be their go to blaster in a shtf scenario
@@barrelandhatchet - I’ll be looking forward to it. This video caught my attention so I watched then looked elsewhere and got extremely confused. Had to call my son who was a recent Marine. I got a history lesson then had to chuckle. “I got a recce rifle.” AKA “standard issue” in the Marine Corps. LOL
Edit - not trying to be a dick, I just didn’t understand why it was being called a recce rifle. A recce rifle in the Selous Scouts was an FAL. I just wasn’t getting it.
@@fanman8102 it’s just a new term that has been generated and usually has a certain type of look to it within the industry that is different than what standard mil uses. So we were kinda just bringing things back down to earth, finding what fits you. What are your goals and will serve you best, despite the job you plan on doing
I've been trying to watch all of this video through out the day but kept getting bothered at work. Well I finally get home and my 18" 6 ARC Proof research barrel showed up. So now I'm putting together a 6 ARC MK-12ish SPR. Can't wait to see what it can do.
its funny you say that, because we actually did a 6.5 Grendal franked mk12, and were planning to do a 6mm ARC version, however ammo was a bit to scarce for us. Wisemen Company actually made a sick 6.5 Grendal Mk12 and it shoots lasers. 1000 yard gun all day!
@@barrelandhatchet I used an Alexander Arm's 6.5 Grendel for my first snipers challenge match back in 2009 and fell in love with that caliber. Can't wait to see more videos from y'all.
@@brazzy1467 Thanks so much man, Episode 3 will be about training philosophy
@@barrelandhatchet I’ve been waiting for my 6ARC build for 2 years San Tan Tactical forged upper/lower. Getting 6ARC in Honolulu is like seeing a 🦄
@@J.Young808 hahahah keep fighting the good fight and patience is a virtue
I have a 16” JP barrel I’ve considered cutting down to 13.9 and then running a BRT gas tube to cut the gas down a bit
Great info thanks!
Thanks for the support and watching, hope you got something out of it, or anything to help towards your next build
Subbed good work on this piece
These shorter barreled “Recces” are more like the Afghan concept from 10+ years ago. Although the Recce rifle wasn’t as concrete as the Mk12, it did have some specifics like the PRI tube, 16” Douglas barrel, and a 2.5-10 Leupold. It’s really the middle ground between the SPR and what you guys are calling Recces.
Went to Jtac for an event you guys hosted recently. Had a blast, well done! 🥃Just swapped in that same 13.0 Hanson. Looking forward to stretching her legs out.
For "Recce" or General Purpose I use a KAC SR15 (mod2) in 14.5" instead of 16". She has an Eotech with 2 dots so have the new Eotech 5x for dot #2. Haven't been able to zero the 2nd dot but I believe it's designed to stretch the little 5.56 to its limit. They say 1x per 100 meters so 5x for 500 meters is good.
Have thought about LPVOs, Night Force has a killer military discount but haven't pulled the trigger on it yet (Leupold too got the MK5 cheap). Kinda waiting to put NF glass on a 6.5CM SR25 upper in the future.
Nightforce has some great options, but yeah they are pricey. KAC is so legit, Roy runs a KAC.
Iv heard nothing but people tell me recently KAC is a massive waste of money most of these people being x mitary. They said for 2.5 grand they expected better accuracy out the box. Whats your opinion on this?
@@mattellis6040 I dont really judge anything but a chome lined bolt gun on accuracy standards.
When I was in we used the M24 for accuracy.
The m16/m4 did fine out to 300-400 size of a human silhouette. It will drop people easy.
Im personally happy w/ KAC but money isnt an issue for me so I just stick with them and LMT. If money was Id prob look at stuff with Daniel Defense barrels, ADM rifles, home bullds with FN barrels and old school Colt 6933 uppers.
Outstanding video, guys.
Thank you sir!!!
Back your red dot zero up to about 75 yards. With a 4.5" height above bore, you'll end up with a very flat trajectory between 25 and 300 yards.
With m193 my 20", on the tube mounted dot/SeeAll Open sight, holds low about 2.5" at 25 yards, high 1" at 100 yards, high 2.5" at 175, and low 2" at 300.
Look forward to more! Sub'ed.
Thank you sir, we are determined to not disappoint
I wish I could get this on Spotify/podcast app/RUclips music. Trying to listen while at work. All good though. Great discussion.
Working on it!
Love these videos.
I believe it’s the dirty bird anti walk pins that are compatible with Geissele. They still are allowed to rotate. Which I guess Geissele says it needs.
Bro that scoping leveling killed me lol! $3k rifle breaks out the husky level!
I haven’t noticed any pins walking out from my geissele triggers. I will be watching a little more closely now that’s for sure
Huge fan of the PA 4-14X44 with DMR HUD reticle, running a tube mounted red dot. I'm specifically running a SeeAll Open Sight on top of mine. Huge fan of KP-15 lowers for a build like this regardless of which barrel length or profile you go with. I'm currently running a Magpul MOE handguard, but upgrading to an ultralight MLOK soon. Running an Inforce light atm. Going to be dropping my PEQ on this build along with a Smith Vortex soon. 20" HBAR 1-8 twist with A2 flash hider atm.
I run m193 primarily, but also have a couple of mags of Mock 262s (using AlcoBullets 77 grain rebated boat tails) in my go bag. They're loaded to around 2750-2780 muzzle velocity out of the 20" with a G1 BC of .512 iirc. Using BLC-2 powder ATM. The groups aren't as tight as H4895, but they're tight enough... and slightly faster.
Huge fan of 20" HBARs. M16 gang. Debating on building and form 1ing a short stubby suppressor to run on this rifle. I'm thinking around 1.75" outer diameter at around 5-6" long. Gonna try my hand at slanted baffles if I go this route (think washer/spacer flat baffles, but with the spacers cut at 45° angles.)
For me the difference between the two is "medium to long range that can function be pressed into closer usage if needed" for the SPR vs. "Short to medium range that can be pressed into longer usage if needed." for a "Recce"
I have a 4-14x44mm Primary Arms FFP scope on a 1.5" Precision Reflex scope mount and top mounted hs407c dot sitting on a Faxon 18" Heavy Fluted Match barrel 1:8 twist 5r rifled in .223 Wylde and a KE Arms KP-15 lower receiver. I wanted it to be light enough to really hump around and I dig the mk12 ish look that it creates.
For a "Recce" I'm wanting to build a 13.9-16" mid gas and use an Atibal X 1-10x30mm scope also with a piggybacked 407c, but I don't know of any 35mm scope mounts that have an RMR attachment.
I reload PRVI Partizan 75gr OTM bullets because of budget considerations. I can load up about twice as many of those as if I were to buy 77gr mk262 ammo off the shelf. I bought a bunch of reloading supplies during the ammo crisis of 2020 and have been using IMR 4955 powder because that's what was available at the time I ordered.
Have you been having good luck finding primers by chance?
@@barrelandhatchet I bought like 10k early 2020 and am still using those. Haven't looked much since.
@@ericj6636 good move man, good move
I like how everyone is running the hot pocket, does it really work that well that everyone is using it?
Yes.
@@wisemencompany I got one, but haven't shot with it yet. feels awesome, and definitely looks cool too.
I caught the Mk12 bug at the beginning of the Covid Shutdowns and built a clone correct MK12 Mod1. Love the way the gun looks and performs. But it is heavy and I shudder having to carry it long distances. Guns like that are IMHO good for stationary positions or where you will have a limited distance to patrol.
yeah dude, she is gorgeous, but you must pay her in love and strength due to her weight
@@barrelandhatchet Yep. The big girls need all the love you can give
@@jonwebsterabbott hahah anen
I need to come a member at JTAC, I live right down the road and need to start training again.
Just ran across your guys vid by accident on here and the thing is people think the sbrs are the new guns for whatever goes down but here’s the thing people forget the poor college student with a Walmart savage axis or a mosin making hits out to 500 yards especially with surplus guns cuz they cut their teeth learning their gun and getting accurate.
amen! we talk about this in episode 3 that will come out on friday, that you cannot buy performance, you need to train
Love that conversation and listening to the brains spewing data and knowledge. I do have one question with why you use Ballistic Advantage, why do you use them when they have 1/16 twist? Doesn't the 5.56 using have better ballistic results with its a 1/7 or 1/8 twist?
Dang 10/10 with 12 mph wind 💨
Just moved to the great state of Florida recently and watching this I realize that JTAC 20 mins from my house.
That is sick! currently the Ranch is sold out of membership slots until April of next year, however if you do take formal course from JTAC Ranch, the instructors do give the students an opportunity to sign up for membership.
Great video guys! Looking forward to the O.W.O.S video
thank you so much for the support, we cannot wait to put out episode 2!
reddot on lpvo is a great way to breath fog onto your optic when in heat
13.7-14.5” button or 5R rifled barrel getting 2400-2500 FPS from MK262 rounds, while my 416R 3P polygonal rifled 11.5” gets 2500 FPS from MK262. Velocities we’re measured using the magnetospeed V3 chronograph. This clearly shows the superiority of polygonal rifled barrels. I have no idea why it’s not more popular.
nice nice, agreed, also a lot of folks don't know about companies like BA, so these video series will hopefully shed more light for folks during their builds
@@barrelandhatchet I know about Ballistic Advantage. I just built a 14.5 223 wylde, on a WMD nickel boron builders set (15” rail), think it might be a custom designed barrel by my LGS. It looks really good with the pinned muzzle brake just poking out of the hand guard.
It sounds counter intuitive, but the mini acog sight picture and eye relief is wonders better than the standard one
I used the m855a1 quite a bit, was shooting through some ⅜" steel at 200m. Definitely a hot round
Every time I bust out my mk12 with aem 5 can it gets the most attention. Mk18 and other cool builds are great. But the mk12 always gets the looks. Also I love running it and training with it. Just gets expensive because I like to run match stuff in it.
You guys should come to a Quantified Performance match or we need to run one at JTAC.
Hmmm tell me more!
Ok old video but I genuinely hope you respond cause I want to hear you opinion… let’s call that 13.7 or 13.9 a 14 inch barrel basically. Mk12 is 18. Let’s split the difference and have a 16 inch barrel. Let’s stick with BA barrels and go with their 16 inch spr fluted barrel and save 3/4 a pound over the standard 18 inch spr barrel. BAs sister company, AERO, makes super light weight handguards in the Atlas line. Their 13.5 inch handguard is only 10 oz… choose whatever optics system you like ie 1-8, 2-7, 1-10, 2-10 with a top mounted dot. Now I have a gun 3 pounds lighter than a mk12 but it’s ballistically superior to that 13.7.
Now I get it, you guys love the mk12. The look, the idea, the history. Same reason I have a mod 1 in 6.5 grendel for medium game hunting. But in terms of a capable rifle in 2022, we have evolved so much since NSW came out with the SPR program. If you are comparing a recce and spr for purely performance in 2022 then let’s keep the guns modern rather than get too tied up in the mk12!
I want to like LPVOs and the SPR and RECCE concepts. I've built RECCE and bought LPVOs. I've trained with them. A RECCE with an LPVO is trying to do multiple things but does nothing as well as a purpose built rifle. I've built SPRs with LPVOs and trained with them, the accuracy is impressive though the terminal ballistics of 5.56 is still anemic beyond 500 meters. An SPR is an attemp to make the 5.56 do what it is not intended to do. Give me a 16" rifle with a red dot + magnifier and I can make that rifle do anything I need it to do and it will do it well. CQB ranges out to 300 or 400 meters is what the AR15 and 5.56 excels at, tactically if I wanted something to reach out beyond that I'm going for a .308. Its not just about hitting the target at range, we have to consider how that round performs in a target at those ranges. Terminal Ballistics should not be ignored.
Just put a red dot on any AR and your good to 300yds(zero). If you know what your doing it's good to 500yds by holding at his head at 400yds and about a foot above his head at 500yds. My 10yr old grand son does it all the time with his 16" cheap DPMS and an Aimpoint red dot.
Dude that is so cool, and your Grandson is a natural it sounds like!
@@barrelandhatchet We have been blessed with an 800yd field that we practice in all the time. Practice and ballistics makes all the difference. Oh ya and lots of ammo.
Wow I ended up building a recce rifle by virtual of being poor
Sig romeo juliet red dot magnifier combo
Bcm grip
Streamlight hlx
And budget upper
dude that sounds like a solid build, the best investment you can make is in yourself through training
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Welcome Good Sir
This is a awesome idea 💡 🔥
thank you good sir!
My m1a scout is by no means a precision rifle but it’s easily 3moa with iron sights. That being said I would NEVER choose an m1a over a mk12 for a fighting rifle
Is this podcast on spotify? I'd love to have this on spotify as well
It will be soon
I recently built a 16” and13.9 Criterion Core barrels its just stupid accurate no mater what I run
There's is no such thing as an unhealthy obsession with Mk12 Mod 0's ;)!
Hahahah my man!
Good stuff nice builds 👌👍
Great video
Thanks much
Hi, just finished listening to the podcast, enjoyed it very much. 2 things though, 1. How do you like the 13.9 ba barrel? Do you notice the weight difference with the hanson cut? As well any accuracy issues with a suppressor on it do to it being a thinner profile? 2. Make a seperate podcast on recce, it was 25min of mk12 and 5 of recce 😂😂 enjoyed it non the less, keep it up!
Hahahah yea true we have a mk12 obsession! The 13.9 BA Hanson has been amazing. Very accurate, and no deviation with the YHM resonator. We used mostly magtec 55 grain FMJ for the 13.9. But we absolutely would recommend that barrel or even full upper from BA. And this is not a paid comment lol.
If your not cheating in a gun fight are you really trying to win?
Amen
12.5👑 overall in AR/AK for short and sweet out to too 500,11.5/10.5 for most civilian urban areas out to 350+ w right optic the longest kak is a must huge difference🤣but 16s fine lookin at a 16in 308 MVP patrol for light compact long range heavy hitter takes AR10 mags too 🤷🏽♂️
12.5 is a bad a** length for sure!
To all those who built a "mini recce"...... no you didn't all you did was put a lvpo on a pistol or sbr
I would consider the mk12 to be a dmr more than a recce.
I would agree with that
Last year I built a side charging AR10 DMR with an 18” barrel in 6.5 Creedmoor. Can that technically be used as a Recce rifle?
Anything can be a recce rifle. Some tools are better suited than others, but examples of things to think about, environment, ammo compatibility, aftermarket support, weight, etc
One question did you take that shopping cart back to Walmart when you were done with it?
hahaha cannot confirm or deny
I know a older video but great video….. I use a Criterion Core on my 18” DMR mk 12 ish build but does great with most ammo but with razor core 77 gr I’m getting stupid accuracy…. The Black hills is a bit hotter but staying around 2700 fps I’m getting sub moa I can’t wait to take it out past 400 yards but 50 to 400 is stupid if I do my part
14.5 with Vudu 1-6, RMR, GPS grip pod vertical grip/bipod, streamlight HLX, Vickers sling, Perst 4.
Done deal
Amen to that!!
I just purchased my second 18 from the same manufacturer and it's running much faster than the first one. Can't touch my old loads from my last barrel
huh that is very interesting, ballistics and pressures always amaze
This may be a dumb question, but Im not an expert on ALL the brands, I know some of the really good ones(Daniel defense, FN, Colt, BCM), but who makes THE BEST barrels for accuracy? Non stainless steel. Could you do a top 5 list video.
I'm particularly interested in 18-20" lengths.
well we used a ballistic advantage SPR barrel for the mk 12 so economically priced and it shot sub MOA, we would recommend them. Also that is a good idea to do a video about barrels
@@barrelandhatchet I'd really like to see that video. I'm betting Ballistic advantage is great, but for someone who might want to go a notch further in quality and precision/accuracy and not care about the price, specifically when it comes to non ss barrels, which would be best?
I dont understand why everyone wants these shorter length barrels, sometimes with slow twist rates, then put a 1-8 lpvo on it. Recce rifle should be capable of close up work but should shine in medium-long range. Recce is recon and should ideally be done from a distance. If i have to engage at a distance i would be using a longer barrel with a faster twist so i can shoot heavier bullets. Accuracy and lethality at the ranges i would be operating at. 5.56 is a velocity dependant round. A 55gr out of a 13.5" barrel will be lacking in velocity and stabilization so much that your effective range is so close, there wont be a need for a 1-8x.
If you choose to put a light on a rifle how and what would you recommend to cover the lens so no one will see any reflections from it ?
A good diy way we used to do it was a 550 chord tied and taped to a flashlight body and make a snug fitting green duct tape lens cover for the light, that could squeeze over the lense. Make sure the cordage is short enough where the cap barely is long enough for the lens cover so it doesn’t fall off while walking or firing
I like the look and CQB capabilities of something like a SBR. Most SOF guys run that configuration so you know its good. However, I LOVE the look and all-around capabilities of an SPR/DMR like the M110, Mk12, and SR25. As a taller/bigger guy, I feel all scrunched up holding an SBR. SPR feels much more comfortable.
"Micro length..." Wait have you been talking to my exes?
Hahahah oh lawd