She also appeared in Tootsie / Transylvania 6-5000 (total flop) / Fletch / The Fly / The Accidental Tourist / Earth Girls Are Easy / Quick Change / Thelma & Louise / Hero / Angie / Cutthorat Island / The Long Kiss Goodnight (the latter 2, directed by her 3rd husband Harlin) / Stuart Little 1-3. Did I mention Geena's originally from Wareham, MA?
Last year I was in the ER. Through the curtain I heard this old woman talking. She told the nurse she was one of the original members of the All American Girls Professional Baseball League during WWII. The nurse was too young to have seen this movie, but I immediately perked up. She was in a wheelchair and had just had a minor stroke. I had the nurse pull the curtain so we could chat while we waited for our test results. Let me tell you, she was a spitfire! Still a bundle of joy and energy at her age. As someone who grew up as a female athlete in the 80's under Title IX, it was such a privilege to talk with a woman who broke down such barriers for women. I'll never forget our conversation.
The older women playing at the end of the movie were former players of the league. Some of them were consultants on the film. You can tell by the way they move during the game at the end that, even though they're older, they know what they're doing. They still move like the athletes they are.
Yes…. I always thought that was a great touch at the end during the reunion scene many of the older women were the actual women’s league ball players. Such a great dedication to them!
The joints may creak a little more (and some of the knees have been replaced) but the muscle memory is still there. I love the ending showing them playing and the song is just perfect.
No they weren't. They knew how to move because they were professional actors that had roles leading back decades. Lynn Cartwright, Kathleen Butler, Eunice Anderson, Vera Johnson, Patricia Wilson, Barbara Erwin, Eugina McLin and Barbara Pilavin.
@@jcarlovitch Not the women hired to be the older versions of the main cast. They're talking about the women extras who are shown actually playing in the outro credits.
Yes, they bonded over both being named after their mothers that died young. Rosie taught Madonna how to hit by thinking of it like a four-count in dancing.
Dotty, the lead red-head, was played by Geena Davis, who besides being an accomplished actor is also a certified genius, member of MENSA and an Olympian level athlete having won many archery medals. She is the real deal.
What adds more to this movie for me is the ending "game" the older ladies are playing, many if not all of those ladies were the actual players from that league. Such a sweet way to have them in the movie.
Fun fact: my husband’s grandmother was on one of those teams. She played the same position that Madonna’s character played. I’ve always loved this movie and it was pretty rad when my husband (then boyfriend) told me about his grandma actually playing in the AAGPBL during the war.
What a special thing to be a part of for her 😭 I’ve seen this movie probably over 100 times since my childhood, no lie. My parents both loved and worked in sports, and this movie meant a lot to both of them. The more time passes, the more I appreciate that this movie exists. Not only for girls, but to honor the women who stepped up in many ways during wartime.
The final song of the movie. It Used To Be My Playground by Madonna is one of my favorite songs of hers. Until this movie was made, not many people even knew there was a women's baseball league during the war. Wonderful movie!
Tom hanks has the 3 most quoted lines in movie history from 3 movies. 'There's no crying in baseball", "life is like a box of chocolates..." Forrest Gump and prob the most famous, "Houston, we have a problem " apollo 13. That's an iconic actor when he delivers 3 of the most famous lines from 3 different movies in cinematic history.
"Houston we have a problem" is a real line that was spoken in real life. I don't think that counts. It was famous before he said it in Apollo 13. It's along the line of "I have a Dream" or "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"
@@mikenolin8747 eh... It was a real line, but I don't know about famous. It didn't really enter the mainstream until the movie. More people knew "one small steel for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind"
My favorite fact about this movie is that Geena Davis actually caught that fastball with her bare hand. It's something that she could do and they worked it into the screenplay.
Some of the older women playing in reunion game, were actual players from that era. We have since, lost many of them in recent years. The women who played, were making money for baseball and finally got recognition, in later years.💙⚾️
I love this movie and the reaction. As an aside, a few years ago I was giving out candy to trick or treaters. This one child was dressed in the Rockford Peach uniform. I squealed with delight. Her mom told me I made her daughter’s night because I was the only person who got her costume. Her daughter loved the movie.
One of my favorite parts (of many) is the closing credits with Madonna singing "This Used to be My Playground" with the real life players playing a game. Also, the umpire's quote after the called third strike and the batter is in his face- "Yesterday that may have been a ball and tomorrow it may be a ball but, today- it's a strike!"
Yes, Gina Davis was in Beetlejuice! She did a really great film called "The long kiss goodnight" with Samuel L. Jackson that I think you guys would love, total action flick!
Hated it as a kid. As I've grown up and watched more movies and more baseball, outfielder misses the cutoff and allows a run to score and...that's baseball. The story is about Kit and Dottie but the game was...the game. It's just baseball, and that's cool.
Dropped it for sure. Beginning when Rosie and Madonna (May) threw the ball and Genna(Dottie) grabbed it out of the air. Her grip too much also after they all met in their old age they threw the ball again and she grabbed it again barehanded. She hadn’t lost it in 30 years. You will never convince me she didn’t drop it for Kit. Look how happy Dottie was when she saw everyone was so happy for Kit(except for Dottie’s team)
@@og6951don’t forget the very beginning “Bobbie give your brother a chance to shoot, Jeffrey kill em” my theory is she gave us the answer before you even see her play
I knew a woman in Kalamazoo, Michigan who played in this league. When she talked about those days her eyes sparkled and she transformed from an 80'ish year old woman into a 22 year old baseball playing kid. Listening to her stories was amazing. Oh, and yeah: Dottie definitely dropped that ball to give Kit her dreams.
And That's🦬💩! That made me so mad!🤬 I didn't care for kid! mean she sucked and she put the blame in her older sister! And by Jenna dropping the ball she didn't care about her team! And crushed everybody dreams to win the championship for one person! Her dmn brat sister! 🤬 oh that pissed me off!🤬
Marla's dad,man oh man. He was the actor for Lois & Clark in the 90s. He did his role as Clark Kent's dad & he was the bestest dad. He passed away & may he rest in Peace for being an amazing actor of the 90s.
The actress who played “Older Doris” was Vera Johnson. Her actual name was Vera Meyers. Vera was a close friend of my mom’s. I remember her coming to visit my mom when I was a boy. She was a wonderful woman. She lived in Fairfield, CT, we lived over the town line the Black Rock Section of Bridgeport.
Dottie definitely dropped the ball on purpose at the end so Kit could experience glory for once. That’s why director Penny Marshall showed Dottie holding onto the ball when she got run over earlier in the film, to let us know that she could’ve held onto it if she wanted to. While Dottie did try to strike her out, I always felt that when Kit ran through the stop sign Dottie realized Kit wanted it more than she did, as Dottie says to Kit soon after. Very controversial to crush all of your teammates’ dreams for your sister’s sake. I don’t think we’re supposed to feel good or bad about it, just supposed to feel. Not everything in life is storybook or clear cut. Lots of ambiguity. Great movie.
Yup. Hit the nail on the head. I’ll never be convinced Dottie didn’t drop it on purpose. She knew how much more important is was to Kit and that she needed a win.
@@ItsHammer Definitely. Always felt that when Dottie saw Kit running through the stop sign at third, she realized how much more Kit wanted it. Forgot to add that part above. Might go back and do so lol. Amazing how Dottie dropping the ball was both selfish and selfless. Selfish for screwing her teammates for her own personal reasons, selfless to give Kit her moment.
A great Gina Davis film is “Thelma & Louise”. The actor playing Gina’s husband is Bill Pullman & a great film w/ him is “While You We’re Sleeping” starring Sandra Bullock in her breakout role. Other greats, “Steel Magnolias” & “Fried Green Tomatoes”.
Fun note! Stillwell Angel was a classmate of mine. He missed our entire first grade making this movie. He is an awesome guy who is a teacher and football coach now. Also this movie was filmed around a lot of areas where I grew up.
I worked at the nursing home where his grandmother was, and she was a hoot. She’d tell me stories about him. I met him and his girlfriend at the time, when he was 19 or 20. Such a sweet young man.
I actually worked with Irene Hickson in the 80's she use to tell me stories. She played for the Racine Bells. I live in Racine so I love the history behind this movie! Thanks for reviewing it.
The illiterate woman, Shirley Baker, was Ann Cusack, Joan and John’s sister. You can’t miss it if you already know. You’ve both already seen 2 movies with Joan and one with John. Sixteen Candles had both siblings, and Joan was in School of Rock. Two really great movies that team up John and Joan, are High Fidelity and Grosse Pointe Blank. Both great movies with superior soundtracks. Trust.
Didn't know that one but now that you said it I see it. Thanks😁 I loved John in 2012 and Identity too. Have 2012 recorded! And I believe Joan was the wife in 'In and Out' too right? Hilarious movie.
Fun fact. Penny Marshall directed this movie who was also Laverne from "Laverne and Shirley" show. Garry Marshall (Pennys brother) Played Mr. Harvey the owner and the baseball game announcer was "Squiggy" from "Laverne and Shirley" show.
When I watched the deleted scenes on the DVD, I was stunned to see a scene that was cut. This scene totally changed my feelings about the whole trajectory of the movie, especially Dottie's motivation. The scene/scenes that were deleted showed that Marla returned after her marriage because, as newlyweds they needed the funds; she was put on a team other than the Peaches. Marla told all her friends that she was in the earliest stages of pregnancy, but they all had to keep her secret or she wouldn't been allowed to play. During one of the games, Dottie, plows into Marla and violently knocks her to the ground, which results in Marla being taken away to the hospital in an ambulance. Dottie is mortified that her completive drive has gotten too strong and that she may have caused Marla to loose her baby. When Dottie gets the news that Marla is okay and she has not lost the baby. She begins to cry tears of relief, that's when her husband returns and the movie goes on as we normally see it. This is why Dottie wants to leave and plans to do so there very next morning. When she says, "It just got too hard." she means something much deeper and darker. At the mound when Dottie tells the pitcher to throw high balls, I believe she realizes that cutthroat competive spirit is emerging and she doesn't want to follow that instinct.
The part with adult Stillwell always breaks my heart. It was easy to infer that Evelyn was bullied and probably abused by her husband, had a bratty child, so playing baseball made her happy. By the time that Stillwell was old enough to appreciate his mother, she died. He just stands in front of her picture and clearly didn't want his picture taken, but he finally became a better person because of Evelyn's love for him.
Yeah, some kids who are out of control as little kids do grow out of whatever bad stage they're going through as a child. Yeah it was sad seeing him looking at his mother's picture in the Hall of Fame. He was very close to her.
As a kid, I was disappointed Dotty lost. As an adult, I love seeing Kit win. Kit was always the underdog. Her entire life she was in Dotty’s shadow. At long last she gets her moment in the sun.
I'm a youngest kid, so I totally get Kit's perspective of constantly being out shined by older siblings, but I'm annoyed that she never realized how much Dottie wanted her to be happy. Dottie didn't even want to be in the league. She did it for Kit. Then she shined too much, so she was going to leave for Kit, but she was stopped by outside forces. And ABSOLUTELY Dottie let go of that ball on purpose. We saw earlier in the movie the exact same situation, and she held on to it. I feel bad Dottie betrayed the rest of her team for Kit, but the entire time, everything she did was for Kit. And it's absolutely true to real life that sometimes the people that excel aren't the people who "earned" it or "wanted" it, which is so frustrating for those of us that want it so badly, but don't have the natural talent or whatever. Dottie may be a great player, but it is better that her spot in the league be given to someone that wants to be there.
I'm SO glad you two watched this movie! I went to see it in with my Mom & Grandma when it was in theaters. My Grandma was the age of the ladies in the AAGPBL, & my Grandpa served in WW2. I'm a huge baseball fan who pitched through college. After watching the movie, I wanted to learn as much as could about this league & its history. I ended up writing letters to many of the former players. Almost all of them wrote me back, signed autographs, & some even included pictures or homemade baseball cards! Those items are something I'll always cherish! Thanks for the wonderful review & may God bless you two!
The owner of the Chicago Cubs, Philip Wrigley (the gum manufacturer), was the man who created the league. Garry Marshall (the father of the film's director Penny Marshall) played the character based on Wrigley. The announcer was played by David L. Lander, who was a co-star with Penny Marshall on the TV comedy show, "Laverne and Shirley" which ran from 1976-83.
And, the guy Madonna dances with in the bar played Carmine in Laverne & Shirley. Plus, the girl on the team, whose husband dies…that is Penny Marshall’s daughter.
You should absolutely watch The Wizard of Oz with your children, at least once they're maybe 5 or older (my best guess). It's a great movie for the family and my parents had my sisters and brother and I all watch together once every year for many years as children. =)
@@GregPappasJr The witch was scary a couple of times, but the monkeys were scary to me all the time. But I still watched it with my mom every year, as well as Sound of Music. Great childhood memories!
Kudos Jay for recognizing Geena Davis from Beetlejuice AND recognizing Madonna! Both of your faces when Dottie's husband showed up were just the best. Jimmy was such a great character in terms of growth.
The scout, Jon Lovitz , played Hanks' Toy Company cubicle neighbor in the movie "BIG" (1988) that you reacted to last month. Lovitz initially came to national attention as a break-out member of SNL (1985 - 1990) where he popularized the phrase "That's the ticket !"
"There's no crying!, there's no crying in baseball!"....one if the most iconic movie quotes ever. I absolutely love this film, it never gets old. Love your guys' reaction.
The scene that tore me up was when Betty found out her husband died in the war after Tom Hanks character tore the letter from the mail handlers hand and then handed her the letter telling her he was sorry then hugged her. Such an emotional scene.
I have a little A League of Their Own trivia for you guys. 1. All the women in the cast had to be able to play baseball and went through baseball auditions in addition to acting. 2. They also went through training camp before filming started. 3. Geena Davis (Dottie) was the last person cast and had the least time in training but picked up the sport the fastest. She auditioned in director Penny Marshall’s backyard for the baseball portion. 4. All injuries seen in the film are real. Taped fingers, Rosie’s knee is wrapped in one scene, & the massive strawberry bruise on that player’s thy were all legit injuries the actors sustained during filming. That bruise took a year to fully heal. 5. When the Peaches play the other teams they filmed them playing full nine inning games. Not all of the footage was used. 6. The interior scenes in the bar The Suds Bucket where they all drink & dance & Marla drunkenly sings were filmed in FitzGerald’s, a bar in Berwyn, IL. 7. A New York State Trooper named David Harding played one of Kit’s sons in the hall of fame scene. A few months after filming that scene for the film he was arrested and indicted for falsifying evidence in multiple cases. On a completely unrelated note from the trivia, I also highly recommend the A League of Their Own series on Prime Video. It explores BIPOC and LGBTQ+ stories in the context of that time and in AAGPBL.
Just a slight correction on the director of the movie. It was Penny Marshall that directed this movie. Though it can be a bit confusing with all the Marshalls and the fact that Kathleen is Penny's niece. This was some great info though. I remember there was also a deleted scene, when Dottie was in her room crying before Bob showed up. Dottie was crying because she and Jimmy had actually kissed and she was feeling guilty about it. But Penny took it out of the film because she thought it would hurt the meaning of what they wanted from the movie. 😎👍
OMG YES on watching the series on Prime Video. I always get nervous when they make a a series out of my favorite movies and have only liked a handful of them. Thank goodness they really did it right and I love that Rosie came back and played a new character. Can’t wait for a season 2.
Understand your points but I think you are overdoing it on their "baseball skills". Yes, there are some women out there with some decent baseball skills ( about equal to a good 14 year old boys team) but these women are NOT any of them. They are just actresses. I have been around plenty of actresses who have looked "tough" on screen. It's NOT reality. Especially someone like Madonna. Give me a break!
This is one of those movies that never fails to make me cry. From the notice of Betty’s husbands passing to the opening of their section of the hall to the real ladies playing ball over the credits. It’s so moving.
That was so sad. The actress who played Betty Spaghetti, Tracy Reiner, also played the girl Harry was dating when they were playing charades in When Harry Met Sally.
That scene where Betty Spaghetti gets told her husband died ALWAYS makes me cry. Always. That actress is the director’s daughter. I even cried watching you guys react to it. Gets me every time.
No she’s not! He is her stepfather! Her mother was Penny Marshall and Penny’s brother is the owner of the team, the old man who makes the decisions! The director is Rob Reiner, who was once married to Penny!
When I first saw this in theaters, I was mad. As I’ve grown older, I realized that Dottie did that for her. That changed Kits entire life. Kits line in beginning: “Please Dottie, I gotta get outta here. I’m nothing here.” The ending song w all the nostalgia makes me cry every time. 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
You were right: Geena Davis was in Beetlejuice. A member of Mensa, she was a very popular actress in the 80s and 90s having played many memorable roles.
The GREATEST sports movie - ever - Brian's Song, from 1971, starring James Cann as Brian Piccolo, and Billy Dee Willams as Gale Sayers. True story, and no movie will move as much as this one.
Geena Davis is actually a freakishly great athlete! Perfect for this role. This is one of my all-time favorite movies I was happy to see you guys watch this one
Geena even tried out for Olympic archery team. But Lori Petty, the younger sister, was pretty athletic, too. In the behind the scenes, the commentators said Lori had to slow down because she could actually run faster than Geena.
@@jasonkiefer1894 Geena took up archery well into her late 30's (early 40's?) even. Had an INSANE training regimen and was winning competitions soon and world class in a year. Damn, I'm gonna have to go look it all again now.
The funny thing is that Geena was not originally cast as Dottie. Debra Winger (of An Officer And A Gentlemen) was originally picked but backed after Madonna's casting in the film.
I bet. Greene is bigger and heavier in the height and shoulders. She has some muscle. While Lori is so slim. She probably weighed liked nothing. I bet she was as light as a feather when she ran. Build can really affect things.
Mostly a true story, I was working in Cooperstown at the time the woman were inducted to the HOF, and I got to meet most of the Peaches that were there, They all signed autographs at the store I was working for … All the baseball scenes were filmed in Cooperstown at Doubleday field.
Geena Davis (Dottie) has been in a few good movies -- Thelma and Louise -- The Fly -- Earth Girls are Easy for a fun one -- Lori Petty (Kit) is the female lead in a great as heck movie that I know you both would love called Point Break with Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze -- Oh and The Wizard of Oz is a must see -- Especially introduce your kids to this all time classic
"A Long Kiss Goodnight" is one of my favorite over-the-top 90's action films and she is such a badass in that movie! I really want to see people start reacting to "Thelma and Louise"! It's such an iconic film, yet barely anyone reacts to it. I wonder if it gets blocked a lot for copyright?
My parents met right after the war started and were married pretty quickly. Mom stayed in California repairing the Norton bomb sites and my dad served for two years in the South Pacific. He was one of the troops that liberated Santo Tomas prison camp. They didn’t hear from each other for months and they numbered their letters so if they came in a bunch they knew which order to read them.
I saw this at a drive-in theater when I was 10 years old. I convinced my mom to take me to see this, but, secretly, I only wanted to see the double feature “Fire in the Sky,” which is about an alien abduction. We both ended up loving this movie, and my mom quickly started up the car and left when she realized what the next movie was. My plan failed, but I got to see a movie that I still love to this day.
@@tracyhale8336 haha yeah, I saw it when it eventually came on cable. I agree, it was pretty good, but I know my mom would’ve been pissed at me if she’d had to sit through it.
@@danieljohnson2005 Your mom did so good, lol. That abduction scene haunted me for too long as a grown-up - I can't imagine what it would've done to a 10 year-old. That's so cool you got to see this at a drive-in though. I miss them.
Oh boy... "double feature" those are words you never hear anymore.... LOL Actually, thought "Fire in the Sky" was a pretty good movie; I love the subject matter but alien abduction... it's one of those issues unless it happens to you "you had to be there" FYI, got to meet DB Sweeney (Travis) years ago he was nice, kind of quiet demeanor.
@@lunacouer nah, I was part of the last generation that had almost no parental supervision. I’d seen so much horrible stuff at that point that that abduction scene was like a Saturday morning cartoon. My mom just didn’t want to see it herself. I know what you mean. I saw so many great movies at the drive-in. My parents would take my sister and I all summer, and we would just sit in the back with blankets and snacks and have the time of our lives. They eventually turned our favorite drive-in into a Walmart.
This kiss between Jimmy Dugan and Miss Cuthburt was nominated for "Best Kiss" at the MTV Movie Awards. I thought the actress Pauline Brailsford did a great job in a pretty thankless role as Miss Cuthburt, but appreciated that she was there for the girls when the telegram arrived.
I'll Never understand why the bus driver threw dirt in her face. It's not like Stilwell was her brat. And he Was stranding them in the middle of nowhere with a game to get to. Hope he was Fired. Plus, they poisoned her food so they could sneak out. Poor Miss Cuthbert. She was a really nice, dependable person in this movie and we never got to know what happened to her at the end even though she was the team matron. That was a big part of the team back then because of the rules the owners had to agree to in order for the league to happen
I get so choked up at the end of this one too! I’ve seen it a million times but every time Stillwell says “mom said it was the best time she ever had in her whole life” 😭😭😭
Yes, Madonna is one of the baseball players (Mae). She also sings the song at the end of this movie "This used to be my playground". I was hoping you guys would play that part.
Hey guys, they were playing baseball. It was a real league during World War II because so many men were fighting the war. As a softball coach, it was cool to hear Amber played. I am guessing she played 2nd base, shortstop, or outfield. Y'all's reaction at the winning run was fantastic. The coach came out of Jay and the softball player came out of Amber.
This was directed by Penny Marshall, one of the few women directors at the time, Gary Marshall, her brother produced and had a supporting role in the film. He also created some of the most classic TV series of all time, including Happy Days as well as Laverne and Shirley, Penny Marshall played Laverne. In answer to the Question, yes Geena Davis was in Beetlejuice.
David L. Lander (the announcer) played Squiggy on Laverne & Shirley. Also, one of the military men Mae was dancing with at the bar was Eddie Mecca -- another Laverne & Shirley alumnus.
Marla Hooch's portrayer, Megan Cavanagh, was a good friend of mine years ago (and still a good facebook friend). She's an mazing person and was in many great movies including Robin Hood: Men in Tights. She's also been active in women's baseball commemorations including for the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
My take on that final play was that Dottie *did* give the win to Kit (based on previous scenes that showed she never dropped the ball as the catcher), but that she made Kit work for it. Loved your reaction,btw! SO much fun to watch 😍
Betty Spaghetti was played by Tracy Reiner, daughter of Penny Marshall and her first husband Michael Henry. Her second husband, Rob Reiner, the son of Carl Reiner and an actor/director in his own right adopted Tracy when she was a girl. Tea Leoni was the Racine first baseman, and the Racine coach was the late Don S. Davis, a very talented character actor, painter, and sculptor.
Also, there were two characters from the "Laverne and Shirley" TV show in which Penny Marshall co-starred: 1. Madonna's dance partner at the Suds Bucket was the Big Ragu in L & S and 2. The baseball announcer was Squiggy in L & S!
This movie is GOLD 😭😍 The scene in the locker room with the telegram gets me EVERY time. 😭😭😭. Jimmy Dugan is such a drunken jagaloon for the whole movie and then goes full papa bear, wresting the telegram from the courier and kinda “you’re not going to do this to these women now GTFO” and showing genuine empathy… Marla getting married… Mae teaching Sherri(?) to read 🙈🤣🤣🤣…. Kit having her moment… the ending present-day scene 😭😭😭 ETA I DIDNT NOTICE UNTIL TODAY, Kit named her eldest Dottie 😭😭❤️❤️
The only problem with that scene is the delivery boy would NOT have complained about delivering that telegram--he would have shown empathy as well and just been respectful. That was just to explain to a modern audience what that meant.
It is kind of funny how some of our favorite sitcom stars back in the 1970s like Penny Marshell, Rob Reiner, Ron Howard ended up directing some of the best movies of the 1980s and 1990s. Btw Jay give Wizard of Oz a chance and I suspect you will end up showing your kids, introduce Amber to "Rudy" and another based on a true story sports movie you should watch is "Hoosiers" with Gene Hackman playing a small school coach of a tiny Indiana school that won the Indiana state championship in the 1950s.
I'm 70 years old and played softball until I was in my late 50s and when anyone got hurt someone would always say " Their's no crying in baseball ". Always someone would say it,always.
I have watched this movie so many times. I will stop what I am doing to watch this movie. I know these lines word for words and knew at each moment you both was going to have the tears going. I woke my wife up in the middle of the night watching this. Boy was she mad. Until she got a chance to watch it and then she understood why I laugh so much. This one of my top 5 all time favorite movies. IMITATION OF LIFE is number one. The 1954 version. If you watch it, you better get the tissues next to both of you.
YES! She was the woman from Beetlejuice & that is Madonna; the ending song is her singing. This is one of my all time favorites!😊 “I don’t want YOU I want HER; the one that hit the ball!” You guys should watch the movies, “Frequency” and “Remember the Titans”!
This is one of my favorite movies of all time; so glad you guys loved it 😊Although my #1 is The Wizard of Oz. When Jay said it didn't look interesting, I audibly gasped 😂 Give it a shot and you won't regret it!
@John Fischer I’d say best piece of comedic acting. Like many from that time, Bert came from the vaudeville and burlesque circuit. He was a facial, physical, and classic comedian and the perfect choice to play an animal character.
This was one of my favorite movies as a kid! Me and my family still quote it all the time. I used to cry every time Dottie dropped the ball as a kid, but now it just makes me appreciate how well-written this movie is. Dottie was amazing at the game, but it wasn't her passion. It was Kit's passion. She did drop the ball for Kit, but Dottie made Kit earn it. She did not go easy on her. It's disappointing because we all want the Peaches to win but it makes complete sense for Dottie as a character. Just great writing.
Karina Beana: Exactly. Dottie did right by her teammates, but it was very clear that her priority was Kitt and family (her husband and future as a wife and mother)
You've definitely got to watch Geena Davis in THELMA & LOUISE, now you've seen this movie. Did you already watch THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT? GD stars with Samuel L. Jackson, it's a really cool action thriller.
The end, with Madonna singing "It used to be my playground" always makes me ugly cry. Great movie. I am from Racine. It is so cool to see some of the actual players at the end. Also, don't know if you noticed the actors from Laverne and Shirley in the movie. Penny Marshall was great to include them, and her Father, Gary Marshall, in the film. The accouncer of the games played Squiggy in L&S. The guy dancing with Madonna played Carmine.
One of the greatest movies Penny Marshall ever made. Phenomenal cast. I wasn't that familiar with the women's baseball league I talked about it with my grandfather when this movie came out. These women should be in the Hall of Fame most definitely. I hope you enjoy the film and continue with more heartfelt films like this
@@jazzlefettie yes true the league lasted almost a decade according to my grandfather. But what I meant was how in the Hall of Fame they have individuals in their own right not just a wing dedicated to the overall women's league.
Dottie absolutely let go of the ball - the proof is in her face as she watches Kit get celebrated. Dottie did her part for the team by calling the high, fast ones; then, Kit went and showed, essentially, that she would fight for herself. In that moment at the plate when Dottie had her choice to make she chose her sister, as she should! 🤗❤
She had no choice; when you get slammed into and knocked down that hard, you don’t have control over anything; it just happened. She told the pitcher how to strike her out and she tried to get her out because she believed in her and wanted her to succeed with no favors because she knew she could.
My siblings and I grew up watching this movie so many times. We just loved it so much. My sister and I especially loved seeing a sports movie with women as the main players! Until now, my sister and I can recite all the lines to this movie. THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!
“There’s no crying in baseball” is probably in the top 25 movie quotes of all time. It even beats out “If you build it, they will come”, which is one my all time favs.
I was an extra as a kid in this movie and “rookie of the year”. They filmed the a bunch of the Rockford Peaches games in Indiana and I got to be in the stands. Great reaction guys. 😊
Back in the 90s my Mom was managing an assisted living facility in Rockford(I'm a native) and one of the residents used to be a Peach. My daughter would spend a month during summer breaks from school at my Moms and through her grandma got to know this lady. She gave my daughter memorabilia from the Rockford Peaches including some cards, a pennant, and old ticket stubs which of course my daughter will always treasure! Great reaction you two and yes, especially if you've ever played sports this movie gets you every time!
John Lovitz, the recruiter, was also in the Wedding Singer! He sang "It's Ladies Night". Directed by Penny Marshall RIP who had her older brother Gary (Mr Harvey) RIP, close friend & fellow Laverne & Shirley co-star David Landers (game announcer) RIP, and her daughter Tracy Reiner (Betty "Spaghetti" Horn) in the movie.
The scene with the African American women is especially poignant when you realize that major league baseball wasn't integrated until 1947, when Jackie Robinson played for the Brooklyn Dodgers. So even though these women athletes were talented, they would not be able to play on a white team. There are many layers to the sexism and racism that were an everyday part of much of American life that's touched on in this film.
@@mypud4068 lol. I think they were talking about women not playing in sports back then. Did they have a woman’s soccer league in the 40’s? Too bad women’s sports is slowly being obliterated by men today.
@@savsmiles3042the NBA subsidizes the WNBA. It’s too bad women don’t support women. I’ve worked in offices. They don’t support each other there either. I’ve had so many awkward moments where I just put my head down and walk away because women in the office see themselves as competition. I just see them as another perspective who can help. Diversity makes us stronger. That’s why I’m proud to be Canadian. Diversity is our strength. And I say that as a white guy. No diversity and I’m eating at McDonald’s every day planning my coronary.
@@savsmiles3042 yeah but no one legally was stopping women from having a soccer team, they just didn’t because how would that league even sustain with money when even with the massive amounts of exposure that they get now they can’t make money, how exactly are men “ruining” womens sports today? If your talking about biological men claiming to female then yeah of course I’d agree but that goes both ways in the age of “equality”, there are also women playing HS quarterback and it wasn’t because she was better then the other boys trying out seeing as her team ran the ball 50 plus times and threw it 1 time….1. A story like that is about as rare as how many trans women are actually taking jobs or opportunities away from other biological females. The issue being if we continue down this path that men and women are equal in all ways it will only get worse, but my issue is your saying men are ruining womens sports yet if the situation was reversed would you say the same thing? Or is it cherry picking equality and speaking down on the stuff you don’t like?
Gotta keep in mind Dottie was all about family. To her, it was always just a game. But to Kit, it was EVERYTHING. Dottie had the husband and a secure future wherever she went. Kit’s entire life depended on that game. If Dottie had stolen that from Kit, all the awful things her sister said about her would have been true. Part of me thinks Dottie came all the way back for the last game to make sure Kit won. ❤ Y’all had real little sibling energy getting mad at the ending lol
Along the same vein and an interesting thing to me is that Dottie stated throughout the movie that she wanted a large family (10 kids etc) and she ended up only having one daughter and Kit ended up having a bunch of kids and we see her whole brood at the hall of fame. I think it's interesting that Dottie is probably at this point a little bit jealous of Kit and the life she ended up having
I will also say, as a youngest sister, the idea that I would be so self-involved as to not care to ask my older sister how her husband was and if she'd heard from him lately? I just think Kit is somewhat poorly written, because there's no nuance. Dottie isn't a person to her, just an obstacle and Dottie is the ONLY reason they still have a relationship, because it's either getting the attention she thinks she deserves or she's going scorched earth with everyone. Kit's a terrible team player and is willing to tank a game to preserve her own ego. Or she's falling completely apart because her sister got a hit on her. Like, get a grip! I'm sorry your sister is a great hitter and a wonderful catcher, but it's not like you even play the same position. Her playing well makes your job as pitcher easier.
I think Dottie dropped that ball on purpose Realizing how important it was to her sister, Kit. Earlier in the movie she took a hit as hard and didn't drop the ball. Dottie knew how to take a hit. Tears, love this movie
No, she didn't. Kit bulldozed her to the ground and knocked the wind out of her, causing her to drop the ball. It's Kit's graduating moment into adulthood and out from under her sister's shadow.
@@bentels5340 I think she may have by the way she reacted at the end as well as the foreshadowing in the beginning of the phone when she’s talking to her grandsons. Daddy knew she wasn’t gonna be back for the following season, and it didn’t really matter much to her to win, but she knew it mattered to kKit. Could go either way honestly, I don’t think anyone can definitively say, and Penny Marshall’s dead.
The movie seems to leave it open to interpretation, but mine is that Dottie dropped the ball for Kit. Dottie had already made it quite clear through her actions that there were things more important to her than baseball. And the audience may not agree with her decision, but we understand why she did it.
I love this movie and im actually so glad that Kit won because if the Peaches won it would of been too typical like bro come on.. 🙄 It's all Kit ever wanted.. to feel she was good enough. This is one of my favorite sports movies of all time. ❤
Penny Marshall was married to rob reiner for 19 years Rob teiner before he became really famous for stand by me ,when Harry met Sally and a few good men he was meat-eating in all in the family back in the 70s
Yeah, Kit actually always irritated me. On one hand, you’re right, one can understand her feelings of living in a shadow. On the other hand it’s clear her sister is not to blame and it’s annoyingly unfair how she’s treated.
But I liked that it showed the ups and downs of sisters. Because from experience we be like that sometimes. When Dotti said she loved her and Kit was like really? And the ending especially. They fight but at the end of the day they love each other.
Interesting fact about this movie, all the girls are actually playing and the scene where Jimmy takes a picture of the scrap on the girls leg from the slide was real. Dedication to the movie. Love this movie.
My favorite trivia is about Stillwell. The part where he kept chanting “you’re gonna lose; you stink!” He had no idea a baseball glove was gonna be thrown at him. So the reaction we saw in the film is genuine. 😂
Your next baseball movie has to be The Sandlot! You'll love it! Also contains one of films greatest lines. You'll have to watch it,but you'll recognize it when you hear it!
This is one of my favorites! I'm so impressed that Jay noticed that it was Madonna right away, she is perfect in this role. And yes, Geena Davis was in Beetlejuice, she is an incredible actress! She plays such a badass in "The Long Kiss Goodnight" starring the incomparable Samuel L Jackson as well. You guys would love it, so action packed! I believe that Dottie let go of the ball. Even though she was the better player overall, she knew how much this meant to her sister, and did what any big sister would do. Obviously Dottie was willing to leave it all behind, so she wanted to give Kit her moment. Great reaction! 👍 ❤️
If you think about it, the movie kind of gives it away from the start that Dottie let go of the ball on purpose, when she tells the older grandson to ease up on his brother and to give him a chance to shoot, then tells the younger grandson “K*** him.”
To answer Jay's question, Gina Davis, who played Dottie. Was the wife in Beetlejuice.
Even better Gena Davis is Finnish. SISU! By the way it’s pronounced Sow Na not Saw na! Get it right Drew Carey 😠
She also appeared in Tootsie / Transylvania 6-5000 (total flop) / Fletch / The Fly / The Accidental Tourist / Earth Girls Are Easy / Quick Change / Thelma & Louise / Hero / Angie / Cutthorat Island / The Long Kiss Goodnight (the latter 2, directed by her 3rd husband Harlin) / Stuart Little 1-3.
Did I mention Geena's originally from Wareham, MA?
As Thelma in that amazing movie Thelma and Louise. Great movie.
Geena, y'all! Put some respeck on my wife's name!
@@HardcoreRGProdigyXTRhow could you miss her critically acclaimed movies Stuart little& Stuart Little 2 😁
"There's no crying in baseball!" Tom Hanks has one of the most quotable lines in the movie!
Ditto! I think Tom Hanks has the most quotable quotes period! Lol
yeah, that's one of my favorite lines of his ever. 😁
I thought that scene would have been included. I didn't see it. If I missed it, does someone know the mark where they covered it?
@@RockPowerUSA no, they skipped it. “Rogers Hornsby was my manager and he called me a talking pile of pig shit” I only tuned in for that part.
I use it often 😆
Last year I was in the ER. Through the curtain I heard this old woman talking. She told the nurse she was one of the original members of the All American Girls Professional Baseball League during WWII. The nurse was too young to have seen this movie, but I immediately perked up. She was in a wheelchair and had just had a minor stroke. I had the nurse pull the curtain so we could chat while we waited for our test results. Let me tell you, she was a spitfire! Still a bundle of joy and energy at her age. As someone who grew up as a female athlete in the 80's under Title IX, it was such a privilege to talk with a woman who broke down such barriers for women. I'll never forget our conversation.
I got to meet a woman that played in the second season. She was so cool. She showed me pictures and was super nice
Sweet!
Way cool!
My grandma played too and her and some of her teammates were flown to a premier in Cali!!!
did you ask her how accurate this movie was to the real league?
The older women playing at the end of the movie were former players of the league. Some of them were consultants on the film.
You can tell by the way they move during the game at the end that, even though they're older, they know what they're doing. They still move like the athletes they are.
Yes…. I always thought that was a great touch at the end during the reunion scene many of the older women were the actual women’s league ball players. Such a great dedication to them!
The joints may creak a little more (and some of the knees have been replaced) but the muscle memory is still there. I love the ending showing them playing and the song is just perfect.
No they weren't. They knew how to move because they were professional actors that had roles leading back decades. Lynn Cartwright, Kathleen Butler, Eunice Anderson, Vera Johnson, Patricia Wilson, Barbara Erwin, Eugina McLin and Barbara Pilavin.
@@jcarlovitch Not the women hired to be the older versions of the main cast. They're talking about the women extras who are shown actually playing in the outro credits.
Awesome! I didn't know that. ❤❤❤❤❤
The chemistry between Madonna and Rosie O'Donnell was great in this movie. Super cool how they've remained close friends ever since.
Yes, they bonded over both being named after their mothers that died young. Rosie taught Madonna how to hit by thinking of it like a four-count in dancing.
They're still friends to this day
Dotty, the lead red-head, was played by Geena Davis, who besides being an accomplished actor is also a certified genius, member of MENSA and an Olympian level athlete having won many archery medals. She is the real deal.
And yes, she was in Beetlejuice. 😊
The highest grossing baseball movie in history. This movie is a real gem.
Really? I would have though it would be A Field of Dreams or Bull Durham?!?
proof?
@@gregkirby9059 the box office.
@@carlaharrington5120 it was a trivia question on a sports talk show. The hosts couldn't figure out the answer.
Also the greatest baseball movie in history!
What adds more to this movie for me is the ending "game" the older ladies are playing, many if not all of those ladies were the actual players from that league. Such a sweet way to have them in the movie.
Fun fact: my husband’s grandmother was on one of those teams. She played the same position that Madonna’s character played. I’ve always loved this movie and it was pretty rad when my husband (then boyfriend) told me about his grandma actually playing in the AAGPBL during the war.
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That’s awesome. I hope you were able to find some memorabilia to put on your wall or something.
💜💯
What a special thing to be a part of for her 😭 I’ve seen this movie probably over 100 times since my childhood, no lie. My parents both loved and worked in sports, and this movie meant a lot to both of them. The more time passes, the more I appreciate that this movie exists. Not only for girls, but to honor the women who stepped up in many ways during wartime.
Yeah!!!!
The final song of the movie. It Used To Be My Playground by Madonna is one of my favorite songs of hers. Until this movie was made, not many people even knew there was a women's baseball league during the war. Wonderful movie!
and the actual real life women are the ones playing during the credits
I was upset when it was not on the movie's soundtrack even though it has all the other songs. this is my favorited of Madonna's.
There were actually two the AAGPBL and National Girls Baseball League
“This Used To Be My Playground”
Plays at the end credits. 100%
One of my favorite songs of hers too.
Geena Davis' athleticism nearly helped her win a spot on the U.S. Olympic archery team in 2000.
Tom hanks has the 3 most quoted lines in movie history from 3 movies. 'There's no crying in baseball", "life is like a box of chocolates..." Forrest Gump and prob the most famous, "Houston, we have a problem " apollo 13. That's an iconic actor when he delivers 3 of the most famous lines from 3 different movies in cinematic history.
WILSONNN !!!!!!
I wonder if you can add "won't you be my neighbor?" to that now
"Houston we have a problem" is a real line that was spoken in real life. I don't think that counts. It was famous before he said it in Apollo 13.
It's along the line of "I have a Dream" or "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"
@@mikenolin8747 eh... It was a real line, but I don't know about famous. It didn't really enter the mainstream until the movie. More people knew "one small steel for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind"
@@k1productions87
Fair enough. It is a great movie line either way
Madonna- yes!!!!! Rosie and Madonna met on this film set and have been very good friends ever since.
My favorite fact about this movie is that Geena Davis actually caught that fastball with her bare hand. It's something that she could do and they worked it into the screenplay.
Geena Davis is a freaking machine, such a great athlete.
That's cool, I didn't know that
My favorite fact is that their injuries were real. Alice’s leg bruise was a doozy!
Yes, that is Gina Davis from Beetlejuice
I think Geena tried out for the US Olympic archery team.
Some of the older women playing in reunion game, were actual players from that era. We have since, lost many of them in recent years. The women who played, were making money for baseball and finally got recognition, in later years.💙⚾️
I love this movie and the reaction. As an aside, a few years ago I was giving out candy to trick or treaters. This one child was dressed in the Rockford Peach uniform. I squealed with delight. Her mom told me I made her daughter’s night because I was the only person who got her costume. Her daughter loved the movie.
Jon Lovitz is one of the most effortlessly funny people ever. I loved him in this movie.
Seriously, the critic even his little parts in sandler movies are gold
And he can sing!
😮WhatSo He Was Actually ACTING The Character 😢
Jon Lovitz wasn’t in Trading Places. He was in Mr. Destiny with James Belushi and Jay O. Sanders.
Cracks me up when he says, "I hate it when they get attached like that" 😂😂😂
One of my favorite parts (of many) is the closing credits with Madonna singing "This Used to be My Playground" with the real life players playing a game. Also, the umpire's quote after the called third strike and the batter is in his face- "Yesterday that may have been a ball and tomorrow it may be a ball but, today- it's a strike!"
I'm not a big Madonna fan, but I do like that song. The umpire's quote was great too.
I was madish they didn't show that.
Yes, Gina Davis was in Beetlejuice! She did a really great film called "The long kiss goodnight" with Samuel L. Jackson that I think you guys would love, total action flick!
Ooh Long Kiss Goodnight 👍 good call 👏
I came here to say this! Samuel L. Jackson has said in interviews that “The long kiss goodnight” is his favorite movie that he’s done.
@@RaaRoux it really is an awesome freaking movie!
Totally forgot about that movie. Gotta re-watch.
Also The Fly with Jeff Goldblum .
The dropping of the ball at the end is part of the mystic of the movie. It’s been debated for years.
Kit hit her good!! Maybe all the times she felt unappreciated in her world
Hated it as a kid. As I've grown up and watched more movies and more baseball, outfielder misses the cutoff and allows a run to score and...that's baseball. The story is about Kit and Dottie but the game was...the game. It's just baseball, and that's cool.
Dropped it for sure. Beginning when Rosie and Madonna (May) threw the ball and Genna(Dottie) grabbed it out of the air. Her grip too much also after they all met in their old age they threw the ball again and she grabbed it again barehanded. She hadn’t lost it in 30 years. You will never convince me she didn’t drop it for Kit. Look how happy Dottie was when she saw everyone was so happy for Kit(except for Dottie’s team)
@@og6951don’t forget the very beginning “Bobbie give your brother a chance to shoot, Jeffrey kill em” my theory is she gave us the answer before you even see her play
I knew a woman in Kalamazoo, Michigan who played in this league. When she talked about those days her eyes sparkled and she transformed from an 80'ish year old woman into a 22 year old baseball playing kid. Listening to her stories was amazing. Oh, and yeah: Dottie definitely dropped that ball to give Kit her dreams.
And That's🦬💩! That made me so mad!🤬 I didn't care for kid! mean she sucked and she put the blame in her older sister! And by Jenna dropping the ball she didn't care about her team! And crushed everybody dreams to win the championship for one person! Her dmn brat sister! 🤬 oh that pissed me off!🤬
No way!?!?!?! I live in Kzoo, that is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@miahoffman2555 yes also you won look at the comment above you so congratulations mia!!
@@israymervalentin-arias6313 nope... Thats a scam
Dottie got knocked down *hard*; pretty sure releasing the ball was unavoidable
I gotta suggestion for a movie - especially for Amber - If you haven't seen it, you gotta watch 'Erin Brochovich' starring Julia Roberts!
Great suggestion! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
They also need to see The Sandlot. Yet another great baseball film
Marla's dad,man oh man. He was the actor for Lois & Clark in the 90s. He did his role as Clark Kent's dad & he was the bestest dad. He passed away & may he rest in Peace for being an amazing actor of the 90s.
The actress who played “Older Doris” was Vera Johnson. Her actual name was Vera Meyers. Vera was a close friend of my mom’s. I remember her coming to visit my mom when I was a boy. She was a wonderful woman. She lived in Fairfield, CT, we lived over the town line the Black Rock Section of Bridgeport.
I grew up not far in Orange. Hi!
I use to live in Westport
When you say actual name you mean maiden name or non stage name?
@@EastSide-qc5oy I meant her non-stage name.
@@laurakali6522 hi!! I live in Black Rock, but work in West Haven on Orange border.
Dottie definitely dropped the ball on purpose at the end so Kit could experience glory for once. That’s why director Penny Marshall showed Dottie holding onto the ball when she got run over earlier in the film, to let us know that she could’ve held onto it if she wanted to. While Dottie did try to strike her out, I always felt that when Kit ran through the stop sign Dottie realized Kit wanted it more than she did, as Dottie says to Kit soon after. Very controversial to crush all of your teammates’ dreams for your sister’s sake. I don’t think we’re supposed to feel good or bad about it, just supposed to feel. Not everything in life is storybook or clear cut. Lots of ambiguity. Great movie.
Yup. Hit the nail on the head. I’ll never be convinced Dottie didn’t drop it on purpose. She knew how much more important is was to Kit and that she needed a win.
Also, Dottie knew that was her last game, and Kit could continue on. Gave her sister the chance to do so.
Exactly right!!
@@ItsHammer Definitely. Always felt that when Dottie saw Kit running through the stop sign at third, she realized how much more Kit wanted it. Forgot to add that part above. Might go back and do so lol. Amazing how Dottie dropping the ball was both selfish and selfless. Selfish for screwing her teammates for her own personal reasons, selfless to give Kit her moment.
It has never been confirmed and even the stars have said they don't know (Geena Davis said she did know but would never reveal it).
Tom Hanks is such a versatile actor who can play just about anything. He is without a doubt my favorite actor with Jack Nicholson a close second.
A great Gina Davis film is “Thelma & Louise”. The actor playing Gina’s husband is Bill Pullman & a great film w/ him is “While You We’re Sleeping” starring Sandra Bullock in her breakout role.
Other greats, “Steel Magnolias” & “Fried Green Tomatoes”.
Bill Pullman was also the president in Independence Day.
While You Were Sleeping is one of my all time favorites!
also Spaceballs, can't forget 'Lone Star'
While You Were Sleeping (1995) came after Speed ('94) and Demolition Man ('93) both of which can arguably be called her breakout role.
@@Deathbird_Mitch I stand corrected. 🥂
Fun note! Stillwell Angel was a classmate of mine. He missed our entire first grade making this movie. He is an awesome guy who is a teacher and football coach now. Also this movie was filmed around a lot of areas where I grew up.
I worked at the nursing home where his grandmother was, and she was a hoot. She’d tell me stories about him. I met him and his girlfriend at the time, when he was 19 or 20. Such a sweet young man.
Neat
Did you go to Saint Wendal Catholic or south Terrace ?
@@Dredd.Pirate.Roberts.North Elementary was where we went
Awesome!!!
I actually worked with Irene Hickson in the 80's she use to tell me stories. She played for the Racine Bells. I live in Racine so I love the history behind this movie! Thanks for reviewing it.
Hello from Oshkosh!
The illiterate woman, Shirley Baker, was Ann Cusack, Joan and John’s sister. You can’t miss it if you already know. You’ve both already seen 2 movies with Joan and one with John.
Sixteen Candles had both siblings, and Joan was in School of Rock.
Two really great movies that team up John and Joan, are High Fidelity and Grosse Pointe Blank. Both great movies with superior soundtracks. Trust.
Didn't know that one but now that you said it I see it. Thanks😁
I loved John in 2012 and Identity too. Have 2012 recorded! And I believe Joan was the wife in 'In and Out' too right? Hilarious movie.
The scene in Grosse where Joan is pouring gas on everything while on the phone is amazing.
Fun fact. Penny Marshall directed this movie who was also Laverne from "Laverne and Shirley" show. Garry Marshall (Pennys brother) Played Mr. Harvey the owner and the baseball game announcer was "Squiggy" from "Laverne and Shirley" show.
When I watched the deleted scenes on the DVD, I was stunned to see a scene that was cut. This scene totally changed my feelings about the whole trajectory of the movie, especially Dottie's motivation. The scene/scenes that were deleted showed that Marla returned after her marriage because, as newlyweds they needed the funds; she was put on a team other than the Peaches. Marla told all her friends that she was in the earliest stages of pregnancy, but they all had to keep her secret or she wouldn't been allowed to play. During one of the games, Dottie, plows into Marla and violently knocks her to the ground, which results in Marla being taken away to the hospital in an ambulance. Dottie is mortified that her completive drive has gotten too strong and that she may have caused Marla to loose her baby. When Dottie gets the news that Marla is okay and she has not lost the baby. She begins to cry tears of relief, that's when her husband returns and the movie goes on as we normally see it. This is why Dottie wants to leave and plans to do so there very next morning. When she says, "It just got too hard." she means something much deeper and darker. At the mound when Dottie tells the pitcher to throw high balls, I believe she realizes that cutthroat competive spirit is emerging and she doesn't want to follow that instinct.
Oh wow! Thank you so much for that info. That's quite interesting actually and make more much sense on why Dottie leave the team.
The passing of Betty's husband George in WW2 always gets me. My condolences goes out to the women that got those letters...😞
The part with adult Stillwell always breaks my heart. It was easy to infer that Evelyn was bullied and probably abused by her husband, had a bratty child, so playing baseball made her happy. By the time that Stillwell was old enough to appreciate his mother, she died. He just stands in front of her picture and clearly didn't want his picture taken, but he finally became a better person because of Evelyn's love for him.
Yeah, some kids who are out of control as little kids do grow out of whatever bad stage they're going through as a child. Yeah it was sad seeing him looking at his mother's picture in the Hall of Fame. He was very close to her.
As a kid, I was disappointed Dotty lost. As an adult, I love seeing Kit win. Kit was always the underdog. Her entire life she was in Dotty’s shadow. At long last she gets her moment in the sun.
and she always wanted it more.
Dottie did that for Kit, she wanted her sister to feel good about herself. Dottie was a great sister.
Yup and she did it without compromising herself, she still swung for the high one 😅
I'm a youngest kid, so I totally get Kit's perspective of constantly being out shined by older siblings, but I'm annoyed that she never realized how much Dottie wanted her to be happy. Dottie didn't even want to be in the league. She did it for Kit. Then she shined too much, so she was going to leave for Kit, but she was stopped by outside forces. And ABSOLUTELY Dottie let go of that ball on purpose. We saw earlier in the movie the exact same situation, and she held on to it. I feel bad Dottie betrayed the rest of her team for Kit, but the entire time, everything she did was for Kit. And it's absolutely true to real life that sometimes the people that excel aren't the people who "earned" it or "wanted" it, which is so frustrating for those of us that want it so badly, but don't have the natural talent or whatever. Dottie may be a great player, but it is better that her spot in the league be given to someone that wants to be there.
@@James_Willingham_III But it was a gift, nonetheless.
I'm SO glad you two watched this movie! I went to see it in with my Mom & Grandma when it was in theaters. My Grandma was the age of the ladies in the AAGPBL, & my Grandpa served in WW2. I'm a huge baseball fan who pitched through college. After watching the movie, I wanted to learn as much as could about this league & its history. I ended up writing letters to many of the former players. Almost all of them wrote me back, signed autographs, & some even included pictures or homemade baseball cards! Those items are something I'll always cherish! Thanks for the wonderful review & may God bless you two!
The owner of the Chicago Cubs, Philip Wrigley (the gum manufacturer), was the man who created the league. Garry Marshall (the father of the film's director Penny Marshall) played the character based on Wrigley. The announcer was played by David L. Lander, who was a co-star with Penny Marshall on the TV comedy show, "Laverne and Shirley" which ran from 1976-83.
Garry Marshall is Penny Marshall's brother.
And, the guy Madonna dances with in the bar played Carmine in Laverne & Shirley.
Plus, the girl on the team, whose husband dies…that is Penny Marshall’s daughter.
The announcer played Squiggy on Laverne & Shirley
A lot of folks might not know this, but David "Squiggy" Lander was a legit baseball scout in real life.
Gary actually is Penny's older brother who produced Laverne & Shirley.
You should absolutely watch The Wizard of Oz with your children, at least once they're maybe 5 or older (my best guess). It's a great movie for the family and my parents had my sisters and brother and I all watch together once every year for many years as children. =)
Depends on how sensitive they are. I was traumatized by the flying monkeys.
@@lynnhettrick7588 Exactly... the monkeys and witch were scary at that age. =)
@@GregPappasJr The witch was scary a couple of times, but the monkeys were scary to me all the time. But I still watched it with my mom every year, as well as Sound of Music. Great childhood memories!
The Wizard of Oz had the exact same story structure as Star Wars. They teach it in script writing.
It is not for the littlest ones. I am still creeped by the parts that scared me as a kid, and I'm nearly 70.
Kudos Jay for recognizing Geena Davis from Beetlejuice AND recognizing Madonna! Both of your faces when Dottie's husband showed up were just the best. Jimmy was such a great character in terms of growth.
The scout, Jon Lovitz , played Hanks' Toy Company cubicle neighbor in the movie "BIG" (1988) that you reacted to last month. Lovitz initially came to national attention as a break-out member of SNL (1985 - 1990) where he popularized the phrase "That's the ticket !"
He also had the hard job of replacing his good friend and former SNL co-star Phil Hartman on News Radio after he was murdered by his wife.
Jon Lovitz was also awesome in Adam Sandler's movie "The Wedding Singer"
I just wanna bee loved, is that so wrong?!?
...and Jon was in neither 'Scrooged' nor 'Trading Places.'
@@RealRonSwanson I was trying to think of who was in those he might have thought was Jon Lovitz. Bobcat Goldthwait?
Madonna's song "This Used to be My Playgrond" closes the movie - would be a great reaction video 🥰⚾️🧢
23:09 the actress who played Marla her name is Megan Cavanagh she played Judy Neutron ( Jimmy’s Mom) from Jimmy Neutron
"There's no crying!, there's no crying in baseball!"....one if the most iconic movie quotes ever. I absolutely love this film, it never gets old. Love your guys' reaction.
The scene that tore me up was when Betty found out her husband died in the war after Tom Hanks character tore the letter from the mail handlers hand and then handed her the letter telling her he was sorry then hugged her. Such an emotional scene.
Betty is played by Penny Marshall's daughter. Such a fantastic scene and an important part of understanding what the times where then.
actually, a telegram from Western Union, whose messengers delivered Killed-in-action notices as quickly as possible beating the USPS by days or weeks.
I have a little A League of Their Own trivia for you guys.
1. All the women in the cast had to be able to play baseball and went through baseball auditions in addition to acting.
2. They also went through training camp before filming started.
3. Geena Davis (Dottie) was the last person cast and had the least time in training but picked up the sport the fastest. She auditioned in director Penny Marshall’s backyard for the baseball portion.
4. All injuries seen in the film are real. Taped fingers, Rosie’s knee is wrapped in one scene, & the massive strawberry bruise on that player’s thy were all legit injuries the actors sustained during filming. That bruise took a year to fully heal.
5. When the Peaches play the other teams they filmed them playing full nine inning games. Not all of the footage was used.
6. The interior scenes in the bar The Suds Bucket where they all drink & dance & Marla drunkenly sings were filmed in FitzGerald’s, a bar in Berwyn, IL.
7. A New York State Trooper named David Harding played one of Kit’s sons in the hall of fame scene. A few months after filming that scene for the film he was arrested and indicted for falsifying evidence in multiple cases.
On a completely unrelated note from the trivia, I also highly recommend the A League of Their Own series on Prime Video. It explores BIPOC and LGBTQ+ stories in the context of that time and in AAGPBL.
Just a slight correction on the director of the movie. It was Penny Marshall that directed this movie. Though it can be a bit confusing with all the Marshalls and the fact that Kathleen is Penny's niece. This was some great info though.
I remember there was also a deleted scene, when Dottie was in her room crying before Bob showed up. Dottie was crying because she and Jimmy had actually kissed and she was feeling guilty about it. But Penny took it out of the film because she thought it would hurt the meaning of what they wanted from the movie. 😎👍
OMG YES on watching the series on Prime Video. I always get nervous when they make a a series out of my favorite movies and have only liked a handful of them. Thank goodness they really did it right and I love that Rosie came back and played a new character. Can’t wait for a season 2.
I actually knew one of the stars of the Amazon adaptation series
Understand your points but I think you are overdoing it on their "baseball skills". Yes, there are some women out there with some decent baseball skills ( about equal to a good 14 year old boys team) but these women are NOT any of them. They are just actresses. I have been around plenty of actresses who have looked "tough" on screen. It's NOT reality. Especially someone like Madonna. Give me a break!
This is one of those movies that never fails to make me cry. From the notice of Betty’s husbands passing to the opening of their section of the hall to the real ladies playing ball over the credits. It’s so moving.
That was so sad. The actress who played Betty Spaghetti, Tracy Reiner, also played the girl Harry was dating when they were playing charades in When Harry Met Sally.
She also has a famous crying scene in Apollo 13. Director Penny Marshall's daughter.
I always cry at Betty’s scene 😢
That scene where Betty Spaghetti gets told her husband died ALWAYS makes me cry. Always. That actress is the director’s daughter. I even cried watching you guys react to it. Gets me every time.
A very emotional scene indeed. Then think back to when Jimmy tore up the baseball card that belonged to Betty’s husband.
She was in Apollo 13 also.
I did as well! There's certain movies I don't have to watch all of it and when I get to certain scenes, I loose it!
No she’s not! He is her stepfather! Her mother was Penny Marshall and Penny’s brother is the owner of the team, the old man who makes the decisions! The director is Rob Reiner, who was once married to Penny!
@@catofthecastle1681 Penny Marshall directed this movie not Rob Reiner!
When I first saw this in theaters, I was mad. As I’ve grown older, I realized that Dottie did that for her. That changed Kits entire life. Kits line in beginning: “Please Dottie, I gotta get outta here. I’m nothing here.” The ending song w all the nostalgia makes me cry every time. 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
Such a beautiful song written and sung by Madonna. She may be cray, but she was talented hell.
You were right: Geena Davis was in Beetlejuice. A member of Mensa, she was a very popular actress in the 80s and 90s having played many memorable roles.
I won't swear to it, but I think her first movie role (certainly one of her earliest) was in "Tootsie" (which they should also watch and react to).
And I believe she's an Olympic level archer, too.
@@melenatorr she was she barely missed out on the u s.a team in like 2000 or so.
@@ericseitzler81 Thanks for that! Good for her, I admire athletic ability so much.
I first remember her in a sitcom called Sara
The GREATEST sports movie - ever - Brian's Song, from 1971, starring James Cann as Brian Piccolo, and Billy Dee Willams as Gale Sayers. True story, and no movie will move as much as this one.
Jon Lovitz as the recruiter was PURE GOLD!!!! absolutely HILARIOUS....😂😂😂
Geena Davis is actually a freakishly great athlete! Perfect for this role. This is one of my all-time favorite movies I was happy to see you guys watch this one
Geena even tried out for Olympic archery team. But Lori Petty, the younger sister, was pretty athletic, too. In the behind the scenes, the commentators said Lori had to slow down because she could actually run faster than Geena.
Isn´t Geena also a member of Mensa?
@@jasonkiefer1894 Geena took up archery well into her late 30's (early 40's?) even. Had an INSANE training regimen and was winning competitions soon and world class in a year. Damn, I'm gonna have to go look it all again now.
The funny thing is that Geena was not originally cast as Dottie. Debra Winger (of An Officer And A Gentlemen) was originally picked but backed after Madonna's casting in the film.
I bet. Greene is bigger and heavier in the height and shoulders. She has some muscle.
While Lori is so slim. She probably weighed liked nothing.
I bet she was as light as a feather when she ran. Build can really affect things.
For your next Tom Hanks movie, I'd suggest Philadelphia. It really shows the greatness of Tom Hanks' acting ability.
Mostly a true story, I was working in Cooperstown at the time the woman were inducted to the HOF, and I got to meet most of the Peaches that were there, They all signed autographs at the store I was working for … All the baseball scenes were filmed in Cooperstown at Doubleday field.
Geena Davis (Dottie) has been in a few good movies -- Thelma and Louise -- The Fly -- Earth Girls are Easy for a fun one -- Lori Petty (Kit) is the female lead in a great as heck movie that I know you both would love called Point Break with Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze -- Oh and The Wizard of Oz is a must see -- Especially introduce your kids to this all time classic
Earth Girls Are Easy is one of my favorites!!
Oh yeah, I forgot about J's comment about TWoO. That's another must-see movie.
"A Long Kiss Goodnight" is one of my favorite over-the-top 90's action films and she is such a badass in that movie! I really want to see people start reacting to "Thelma and Louise"! It's such an iconic film, yet barely anyone reacts to it. I wonder if it gets blocked a lot for copyright?
My favorite Geena Davis movie is 1992's Hero, with Dustin Hoffman, Andy Garcia and Chevy Chase. 😊
Aww, you forgot Lori Petty shaving her head for "Tank Girl" (1995).
My parents met right after the war started and were married pretty quickly. Mom stayed in California repairing the Norton bomb sites and my dad served for two years in the South Pacific. He was one of the troops that liberated Santo Tomas prison camp. They didn’t hear from each other for months and they numbered their letters so if they came in a bunch they knew which order to read them.
The moral of that movie is enjoy life while you're young. It sucks to get old.
I saw this at a drive-in theater when I was 10 years old. I convinced my mom to take me to see this, but, secretly, I only wanted to see the double feature “Fire in the Sky,” which is about an alien abduction. We both ended up loving this movie, and my mom quickly started up the car and left when she realized what the next movie was. My plan failed, but I got to see a movie that I still love to this day.
Aw, man...Fire in the Sky was good. I hope you've been able to see it since. 😀
@@tracyhale8336 haha yeah, I saw it when it eventually came on cable. I agree, it was pretty good, but I know my mom would’ve been pissed at me if she’d had to sit through it.
@@danieljohnson2005 Your mom did so good, lol. That abduction scene haunted me for too long as a grown-up - I can't imagine what it would've done to a 10 year-old.
That's so cool you got to see this at a drive-in though. I miss them.
Oh boy... "double feature" those are words you never hear anymore.... LOL Actually, thought "Fire in the Sky" was a pretty good movie; I love the subject matter but alien abduction... it's one of those issues unless it happens to you "you had to be there" FYI, got to meet DB Sweeney (Travis) years ago he was nice, kind of quiet demeanor.
@@lunacouer nah, I was part of the last generation that had almost no parental supervision. I’d seen so much horrible stuff at that point that that abduction scene was like a Saturday morning cartoon. My mom just didn’t want to see it herself.
I know what you mean. I saw so many great movies at the drive-in. My parents would take my sister and I all summer, and we would just sit in the back with blankets and snacks and have the time of our lives. They eventually turned our favorite drive-in into a Walmart.
This kiss between Jimmy Dugan and Miss Cuthburt was nominated for "Best Kiss" at the MTV Movie Awards. I thought the actress Pauline Brailsford did a great job in a pretty thankless role as Miss Cuthburt, but appreciated that she was there for the girls when the telegram arrived.
I'll Never understand why the bus driver threw dirt in her face. It's not like Stilwell was her brat. And he Was stranding them in the middle of nowhere with a game to get to. Hope he was Fired.
Plus, they poisoned her food so they could sneak out. Poor Miss Cuthbert. She was a really nice, dependable person in this movie and we never got to know what happened to her at the end even though she was the team matron. That was a big part of the team back then because of the rules the owners had to agree to in order for the league to happen
He wasn't fired, he quit.
I get so choked up at the end of this one too! I’ve seen it a million times but every time Stillwell says “mom said it was the best time she ever had in her whole life” 😭😭😭
Yes, Madonna is one of the baseball players (Mae). She also sings the song at the end of this movie "This used to be my playground". I was hoping you guys would play that part.
Beautiful song!!!
Hey guys, they were playing baseball. It was a real league during World War II because so many men were fighting the war.
As a softball coach, it was cool to hear Amber played. I am guessing she played 2nd base, shortstop, or outfield.
Y'all's reaction at the winning run was fantastic. The coach came out of Jay and the softball player came out of Amber.
This was directed by Penny Marshall, one of the few women directors at the time, Gary Marshall, her brother produced and had a supporting role in the film. He also created some of the most classic TV series of all time, including Happy Days as well as Laverne and Shirley, Penny Marshall played Laverne. In answer to the Question, yes Geena Davis was in Beetlejuice.
And her daughter was in it, too. The one who got the telegram about her husband.
David L. Lander (the announcer) played Squiggy on Laverne & Shirley. Also, one of the military men Mae was dancing with at the bar was Eddie Mecca -- another Laverne & Shirley alumnus.
@@mickeyrob Yes. "Betty Spaghetti" as they called her. Tracy Reiner (step-daughter to Rob Reiner).
And the announcer played squiggy on Laverne and Shirley
Marla Hooch's portrayer, Megan Cavanagh, was a good friend of mine years ago (and still a good facebook friend). She's an mazing person and was in many great movies including Robin Hood: Men in Tights. She's also been active in women's baseball commemorations including for the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
Cool! The scene with her singing is one of my favorites.
She Jimmy Neutron’s mom from Jimmy Neutron
Ahhhh I wish I can meet her man
My take on that final play was that Dottie *did* give the win to Kit (based on previous scenes that showed she never dropped the ball as the catcher), but that she made Kit work for it.
Loved your reaction,btw! SO much fun to watch 😍
Yep
A League of Their Own is a certified modern classic.
Period.
So glad you guys watched and enjoyed it!
Betty Spaghetti was played by Tracy Reiner, daughter of Penny Marshall and her first husband Michael Henry. Her second husband, Rob Reiner, the son of Carl Reiner and an actor/director in his own right adopted Tracy when she was a girl. Tea Leoni was the Racine first baseman, and the Racine coach was the late Don S. Davis, a very talented character actor, painter, and sculptor.
I always pause this movie at the Tea Leoni scene- she's smokin'!
Also, there were two characters from the "Laverne and Shirley" TV show in which Penny Marshall co-starred: 1. Madonna's dance partner at the Suds Bucket was the Big Ragu in L & S and 2. The baseball announcer was Squiggy in L & S!
Davis also played Scully's father in The X-Files.
This movie is GOLD 😭😍 The scene in the locker room with the telegram gets me EVERY time. 😭😭😭. Jimmy Dugan is such a drunken jagaloon for the whole movie and then goes full papa bear, wresting the telegram from the courier and kinda “you’re not going to do this to these women now GTFO” and showing genuine empathy…
Marla getting married… Mae teaching Sherri(?) to read 🙈🤣🤣🤣…. Kit having her moment… the ending present-day scene 😭😭😭
ETA I DIDNT NOTICE UNTIL TODAY, Kit named her eldest Dottie 😭😭❤️❤️
The only problem with that scene is the delivery boy would NOT have complained about delivering that telegram--he would have shown empathy as well and just been respectful. That was just to explain to a modern audience what that meant.
It is kind of funny how some of our favorite sitcom stars back in the 1970s like Penny Marshell, Rob Reiner, Ron Howard ended up directing some of the best movies of the 1980s and 1990s. Btw Jay give Wizard of Oz a chance and I suspect you will end up showing your kids, introduce Amber to "Rudy" and another based on a true story sports movie you should watch is "Hoosiers" with Gene Hackman playing a small school coach of a tiny Indiana school that won the Indiana state championship in the 1950s.
Blind Side is another amazing one
Wizard of Oz is an AMERICAN treasure. Everyone loves it;)
Yes! Already know you are going to LOVE this one. “There’s no crying in baseball!” Will forever make you smile.
I'm 70 years old and played softball until I was in my late 50s and when anyone got hurt someone would always say " Their's no crying in baseball ". Always someone would say it,always.
I have watched this movie so many times. I will stop what I am doing to watch this movie. I know these lines word for words and knew at each moment you both was going to have the tears going. I woke my wife up in the middle of the night watching this. Boy was she mad. Until she got a chance to watch it and then she understood why I laugh so much. This one of my top 5 all time favorite movies. IMITATION OF LIFE is number one. The 1954 version. If you watch it, you better get the tissues next to both of you.
YES! She was the woman from Beetlejuice & that is Madonna; the ending song is her singing.
This is one of my all time favorites!😊 “I don’t want YOU I want HER; the one that hit the ball!”
You guys should watch the movies, “Frequency” and “Remember the Titans”!
YES "Remember the Titans!" That movie and "Rudy" never get old for me. I'm not even a sports fan but sports movies tend to make me cry.
That is Gena Davis. Y'all need to check out her best movie "Thelma and Louise"
oh yes Frequency would be an excellent movie for them to watch.
Don't forget Long Kiss Goodnight
This is one of my favorite movies of all time; so glad you guys loved it 😊Although my #1 is The Wizard of Oz. When Jay said it didn't look interesting, I audibly gasped 😂 Give it a shot and you won't regret it!
I screamed when Jay said that! I hollered, "That's your next movie!!!!" It's a mission now.
I don't know if he's going to love it but he should experience the movie. It's an important film.
@John Fischer I love Bert Lahr's performance! The accent and facial expressions are phenomenal. The Tin Man is my favorite though.
@John Fischer I’d say best piece of comedic acting. Like many from that time, Bert came from the vaudeville and burlesque circuit. He was a facial, physical, and classic comedian and the perfect choice to play an animal character.
I did too! A perfect movie for their kids, too.
This was one of my favorite movies as a kid! Me and my family still quote it all the time.
I used to cry every time Dottie dropped the ball as a kid, but now it just makes me appreciate how well-written this movie is. Dottie was amazing at the game, but it wasn't her passion. It was Kit's passion. She did drop the ball for Kit, but Dottie made Kit earn it. She did not go easy on her. It's disappointing because we all want the Peaches to win but it makes complete sense for Dottie as a character. Just great writing.
Karina Beana: Exactly. Dottie did right by her teammates, but it was very clear that her priority was Kitt and family (her husband and future as a wife and mother)
You've definitely got to watch Geena Davis in THELMA & LOUISE, now you've seen this movie. Did you already watch THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT? GD stars with Samuel L. Jackson, it's a really cool action thriller.
love long kiss goodnight
@@karendeloof8306 Yes, it's a great action film. Sadly it gets overshadowed by some more famous films from that era, but it shouldn't be!
If you’re up for another Madonna film, consider checking out Evita! She’s great in that.
The end, with Madonna singing "It used to be my playground" always makes me ugly cry. Great movie. I am from Racine. It is so cool to see some of the actual players at the end. Also, don't know if you noticed the actors from Laverne and Shirley in the movie. Penny Marshall was great to include them, and her Father, Gary Marshall, in the film. The accouncer of the games played Squiggy in L&S. The guy dancing with Madonna played Carmine.
Gary Marshall is not her father, but her brother
Brother, not father.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Marshall
One of the greatest movies Penny Marshall ever made. Phenomenal cast. I wasn't that familiar with the women's baseball league I talked about it with my grandfather when this movie came out. These women should be in the Hall of Fame most definitely. I hope you enjoy the film and continue with more heartfelt films like this
There is an exhibit in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY, honoring the women who played baseball in WWII (and beyond.)
@@jazzlefettie yes true the league lasted almost a decade according to my grandfather. But what I meant was how in the Hall of Fame they have individuals in their own right not just a wing dedicated to the overall women's league.
Dottie absolutely let go of the ball - the proof is in her face as she watches Kit get celebrated. Dottie did her part for the team by calling the high, fast ones; then, Kit went and showed, essentially, that she would fight for herself. In that moment at the plate when Dottie had her choice to make she chose her sister, as she should! 🤗❤
She had no choice; when you get slammed into and knocked down that hard, you don’t have control over anything; it just happened. She told the pitcher how to strike her out and she tried to get her out because she believed in her and wanted her to succeed with no favors because she knew she could.
My siblings and I grew up watching this movie so many times. We just loved it so much. My sister and I especially loved seeing a sports movie with women as the main players! Until now, my sister and I can recite all the lines to this movie. THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!
“There’s no crying in baseball” is probably in the top 25 movie quotes of all time. It even beats out “If you build it, they will come”, which is one my all time favs.
I was an extra as a kid in this movie and “rookie of the year”. They filmed the a bunch of the Rockford Peaches games in Indiana and I got to be in the stands. Great reaction guys. 😊
That's really cool. I'd still be telling the story to this day as well. Lol
@@johnwray393 lmao it was very cool. I remember a bunch of us were so excited to see Madonna 😊😊
@@johnwray393 now that I realize this was over 30 yrs ago, I’m old 🤣🤣🤣
Another great sports movie suggestion! Loved rookie of the year
Nice! Lucky you!
Back in the 90s my Mom was managing an assisted living facility in Rockford(I'm a native) and one of the residents used to be a Peach. My daughter would spend a month during summer breaks from school at my Moms and through her grandma got to know this lady. She gave my daughter memorabilia from the Rockford Peaches including some cards, a pennant, and old ticket stubs which of course my daughter will always treasure! Great reaction you two and yes, especially if you've ever played sports this movie gets you every time!
John Lovitz, the recruiter, was also in the Wedding Singer! He sang "It's Ladies Night". Directed by Penny Marshall RIP who had her older brother Gary (Mr Harvey) RIP, close friend & fellow Laverne & Shirley co-star David Landers (game announcer) RIP, and her daughter Tracy Reiner (Betty "Spaghetti" Horn) in the movie.
The scene with the African American women is especially poignant when you realize that major league baseball wasn't integrated until 1947, when Jackie Robinson played for the Brooklyn Dodgers. So even though these women athletes were talented, they would not be able to play on a white team. There are many layers to the sexism and racism that were an everyday part of much of American life that's touched on in this film.
Racism sure but sexism? You think it's sexism that prevents a women from playing in the mlb?
@@mypud4068 *woman
@@mypud4068 lol.
I think they were talking about women not playing in sports back then. Did they have a woman’s soccer league in the 40’s?
Too bad women’s sports is slowly being obliterated by men today.
@@savsmiles3042the NBA subsidizes the WNBA. It’s too bad women don’t support women. I’ve worked in offices. They don’t support each other there either. I’ve had so many awkward moments where I just put my head down and walk away because women in the office see themselves as competition. I just see them as another perspective who can help. Diversity makes us stronger. That’s why I’m proud to be Canadian. Diversity is our strength. And I say that as a white guy. No diversity and I’m eating at McDonald’s every day planning my coronary.
@@savsmiles3042 yeah but no one legally was stopping women from having a soccer team, they just didn’t because how would that league even sustain with money when even with the massive amounts of exposure that they get now they can’t make money, how exactly are men “ruining” womens sports today? If your talking about biological men claiming to female then yeah of course I’d agree but that goes both ways in the age of “equality”, there are also women playing HS quarterback and it wasn’t because she was better then the other boys trying out seeing as her team ran the ball 50 plus times and threw it 1 time….1. A story like that is about as rare as how many trans women are actually taking jobs or opportunities away from other biological females. The issue being if we continue down this path that men and women are equal in all ways it will only get worse, but my issue is your saying men are ruining womens sports yet if the situation was reversed would you say the same thing? Or is it cherry picking equality and speaking down on the stuff you don’t like?
Gotta keep in mind Dottie was all about family. To her, it was always just a game. But to Kit, it was EVERYTHING.
Dottie had the husband and a secure future wherever she went. Kit’s entire life depended on that game. If Dottie had stolen that from Kit, all the awful things her sister said about her would have been true. Part of me thinks Dottie came all the way back for the last game to make sure Kit won. ❤
Y’all had real little sibling energy getting mad at the ending lol
Along the same vein and an interesting thing to me is that Dottie stated throughout the movie that she wanted a large family (10 kids etc) and she ended up only having one daughter and Kit ended up having a bunch of kids and we see her whole brood at the hall of fame. I think it's interesting that Dottie is probably at this point a little bit jealous of Kit and the life she ended up having
I will also say, as a youngest sister, the idea that I would be so self-involved as to not care to ask my older sister how her husband was and if she'd heard from him lately? I just think Kit is somewhat poorly written, because there's no nuance. Dottie isn't a person to her, just an obstacle and Dottie is the ONLY reason they still have a relationship, because it's either getting the attention she thinks she deserves or she's going scorched earth with everyone. Kit's a terrible team player and is willing to tank a game to preserve her own ego. Or she's falling completely apart because her sister got a hit on her. Like, get a grip! I'm sorry your sister is a great hitter and a wonderful catcher, but it's not like you even play the same position. Her playing well makes your job as pitcher easier.
I think Dottie dropped that ball on purpose
Realizing how important it was to her sister,
Kit. Earlier in the movie she took a hit as hard and didn't drop the ball. Dottie knew how to take a hit. Tears, love this movie
You know very well Dottie would not drop the ball and take one for the team.
She definitely dropped that ball on purpose.
No, she didn't. Kit bulldozed her to the ground and knocked the wind out of her, causing her to drop the ball. It's Kit's graduating moment into adulthood and out from under her sister's shadow.
@@bentels5340 I think she may have by the way she reacted at the end as well as the foreshadowing in the beginning of the phone when she’s talking to her grandsons. Daddy knew she wasn’t gonna be back for the following season, and it didn’t really matter much to her to win, but she knew it mattered to kKit. Could go either way honestly, I don’t think anyone can definitively say, and Penny Marshall’s dead.
The movie seems to leave it open to interpretation, but mine is that Dottie dropped the ball for Kit. Dottie had already made it quite clear through her actions that there were things more important to her than baseball. And the audience may not agree with her decision, but we understand why she did it.
You guys need to hit the Lethal Weapon franchise. Mel Gibson and Danny Glover are a fantastic duo.
I love this movie and im actually so glad that Kit won because if the Peaches won it would of been too typical like bro come on.. 🙄 It's all Kit ever wanted.. to feel she was good enough.
This is one of my favorite sports movies of all time. ❤
I love that stoney expression Amber got when Jon Lovitz’s character reacts to Marla’s face.
Penny Marshall was married to rob reiner for 19 years Rob teiner before he became really famous for stand by me ,when Harry met Sally and a few good men he was meat-eating in all in the family back in the 70s
Yeah, Kit actually always irritated me. On one hand, you’re right, one can understand her feelings of living in a shadow. On the other hand it’s clear her sister is not to blame and it’s annoyingly unfair how she’s treated.
But I liked that it showed the ups and downs of sisters. Because from experience we be like that sometimes. When Dotti said she loved her and Kit was like really?
And the ending especially. They fight but at the end of the day they love each other.
Interesting fact about this movie, all the girls are actually playing and the scene where Jimmy takes a picture of the scrap on the girls leg from the slide was real. Dedication to the movie. Love this movie.
My favorite trivia is about Stillwell. The part where he kept chanting “you’re gonna lose; you stink!” He had no idea a baseball glove was gonna be thrown at him. So the reaction we saw in the film is genuine. 😂
That brings me joy
Your next baseball movie has to be The Sandlot! You'll love it! Also contains one of films greatest lines. You'll have to watch it,but you'll recognize it when you hear it!
Wonderful film, great choice. I was genuinely moved at poor Betty's news, and as I get older, the ending seems to resonate more.
For sure I was 22 thex1st time watching it I'm 51,now,it hits different.
Yes it was the woman from Beetlejuice and the other woman was Madonna!! Good on you Jay!!
The ladies who appeared at the Hall of Family were the real players from the original league!
The two moments that never fail to make me cry: 1. Betty getting the telegram, 2. Adult Stillwell talking about his mom 😭😭😭😭😭
This is one of my favorites! I'm so impressed that Jay noticed that it was Madonna right away, she is perfect in this role. And yes, Geena Davis was in Beetlejuice, she is an incredible actress! She plays such a badass in "The Long Kiss Goodnight" starring the incomparable Samuel L Jackson as well. You guys would love it, so action packed!
I believe that Dottie let go of the ball. Even though she was the better player overall, she knew how much this meant to her sister, and did what any big sister would do. Obviously Dottie was willing to leave it all behind, so she wanted to give Kit her moment. Great reaction! 👍 ❤️
If you think about it, the movie kind of gives it away from the start that Dottie let go of the ball on purpose, when she tells the older grandson to ease up on his brother and to give him a chance to shoot, then tells the younger grandson “K*** him.”
No way Dottie would ever throw a game. Her strength of character is what drove the entire movie!
Yes! The Long Kiss Goodnight: is a really good movie with Geena Davis.