What on Earth Happened to the Goths?
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2018
- Who were the ancient Goths of Europe, and how did they go from conquerors of the Roman Empire, to the strange underground subculture we see today? Today we will discuss the history of the Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Vandals and other relevant groups from around this time period, and how they managed to dominate Europe, if only for the briefest of moments, only to fall into obscurity in only a matter of decades (or did they?)
Please let me know your thoughts on the Goths as a nation, culture, kingdom and their influences on our modern societies today. Thanks for watching!
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Fun Fact: The surname "Rodriguez" actually hails from the last Visigothic King of Hispania "Roderic". "Rodriguez" is Latin for "Son of Rodrigo or Roderic" :)
The surname Mendiola comes from the name of the 6th century visigoth prince hermenegild.
Roderick Rules
Wow interesting! Truly a fun fact if I've ever seen one.
I'm Brazilian and one of my surnames is Rodrigues (in portuguese It ends with an s), and its really interesting to see from where It comes from
Rodriget.
3:04 rip right ear
ouch
It made me think my audio was fucking up, glad rewinding exists.
the reason it scared me is because i'm currently using this video to test my pc to see if its still broken >.> and audio glitches are the start of the problem i'm having. so i got trolled pretty good
dat hurt :'(
never use headphones
The word *barbarian* was never specific to Goths or Germans. It comes from ancient greek *barbaroi* which means >stranger< and was applied by the Graeco-Roman civilization to everybody else.
No, it is not. Just search it up and you will find out you are wrong.
Yes, it is. Just search it up and you will find out that he is right.
It's Greek and this word literally mean "the br-br-sayers", so basically everyone who could not or only bad speak Greek. It's kinda like the modern english "blahblah". And it refered to everyone who wasn't Greek. Well, actually, greek people sometimes even called other Greeks Barbars.
The Romans took that word from the Greeks like so many other things they got from their neighbours.
barbar comes from what you said "blahblah", not "stranger"
both of you are correct, a stranger language the greeks couldn't understand sounded like " brah brah brah" or "blah blah blah" so they used to call non greek prople "barbar" => "the people who make barbarbar sound when they talk"
Barbarian came from barba. Even today in Italian same like in latin means beard. Is nothing to the language. Why if you need haircut going to the barber? Because he speaks barbaric language or because he came from Germany?
Im Spanish, and my anscestors on father and mother side come from two areas that were heavily settled by Visigoths. My granparents town, has one of the few visigothic churches left in Spain. In that town, the gothic language was alive till the 6 or 8th century.
Im 1,84 cm have blond hair, red cheecks, blue-green eyes and every time i go abroad im confused as German, Dutch or a Swede. Even in Spain Im always confused as a foreigner and people ask me were did i learn to speak spanish so well haha. Even my family relatives are all very germanic looking. We are all big and blond. I guess im a descendant of those goths, so the answer to this video would be they settled in the Remains of the Roman Empire and assimilated there.
Alex that’s actually very interesting. Before I had believed that Germanic culture had full diminished in Iberia because of the moors. It’s also very cool to know that the Germanic blood is still prominent in Spain and still runs in many. As for me, I think I’m a descendant of the celts because I have far too many red haired family members and because my last name comes from Galicia, but I don’t know. Many of my ancestors were also blond, but now they are a dirty blond/light brown. And yes blue eyes are prominent, but most have green.
@@danielfragoso7283 I was born a redhead actually haha, then turned into blond. Btw,, Its quite common to believe Moors left a big impact genetically in Iberia, but our closest relatives genetically are French, British, Irish and Portuguese, being quite distant genetically from North Africans. That's because moors in fact where just 12 000 arab people and 100 000 berber soldiers for a population of 5 million at the time. Visigoth in comparison where 250 000 people, and Suebi in Galicia about 50 000 - 100 000. Most of what we use to call Moors, where natives converted to the Muslim faith, but people believe them to be northafricans when speaking about Moors but they arent.
Most of the Spanish population is made of Celts (Center and North) and Iberians ( On the Mediterranean and southern coast) with small amounts of other people, such as Goths, Romans, Jewish, Slavs, Berbers, Vikings, Greeks, Pheonicians, French, Arabs etc..
What ydna haplogroup are you? I'm I2a close matches are with Slavic people. I'm a direct descendant from the Carvajal Ulloa family of Cáceres Extremadura. Spanish history and records shows them coming from Visigoths. The Visigoths, Vikings, Celts, Slavic are all from Haplogroup i. Thanks for sharing the stories
I was born in Galicia in Carnota, magic Celtic Mountain there with gold artifacts, I look like several ancient statues mostly of Sumerian/Greek Persian style, Y Haplo J2 X is H13a2 H3 is native to Galicia
Daniel Fragoso yep definitely Galician last name
The Goths died out because they were too depressed.
hahahaha
The visigoths became invisigoths.
Mr Seboss, you didn’t understand the joke :) I give you a hint: don’t confuse them with Goth fans.
Legend has it that some of them bled out or died of anemic complications due to frequent cutting.
Loool
Some traces of Gothic rule in Spain remain such as names: GUZMAN - meaning Good Man.
Man with guts Guzman
Guzman = good man
El Chapo’s family name is Guzman 😂😂
@Johan Smid remember, in Iberia it was common to write N above the preceeding vowel, Gusmano > Gusmão
And sancho
And Claro
I think the goths got rushed early, before they could start spamming huskarls
Legendary comment
Ragnar was too gready
I don't remember Goths being Norse.
@@LordCommanderGutsno, however they had similar culture to scandinavian vikings who populated the lands just a 100 years later.
@@erikjosefsson9816 true. Gothi were Goth ancestors, cousins of the Scandinavians to the mainland. Germanic is much older than Norse. And to be fair, you could be a viking and norse, but you didn't have to be a viking to be norse.
These Germanic people left behind not only names of people, such as Rodrigo from Roderic, but also names of places like Andalusia from Vandalusia and Catalonia (Catalonia) from Got-Alania. But it is not true that Odoacru and his men would have been Goths. They were herles, a tribe who accompanied the Goths in their migration. Probably related to Alani. But it is interesting how it was seen at that time the sending of the imperial insignia to Constantinople by Odoacru. It was then seen as a unification of power, Odoacru recognizing the existence of a single emperor and trying to rule Italy on his behalf.
In fact, the Ostrogoths led by Theodoric (the Great) who replaced Odoacru and founded the Kingdom of the Ostrogoths in Italy officially recognized the Emperor's authority, even if it was only symbolic.
Attention future heavy metal rock groups: your band names can be found within this video.
raven lord there actually is a metal band named Visigoth, if you didn't already know. Their songs are sort of "fantasy RPG"/fantasy world themed, which is cool even though I typically don't get into such fantasy.
+Andrew Penman
I should have figured that some of these names would just be way too good to go unclaimed! I did not know about Visgoth, but I am glad you mentioned them, because I'm filling my playlist with them now :)
There is a band called Gothic... here is a live video from Wacken ruclips.net/video/ejk8eLoKsZs/видео.html
Woden would be a cool name for a heavy metal band
Thanks, man! I will now name my new metal band: The Germanic Peoples Inhabiting Modern Netherlands & Germany.
That's got a nice ring to it
Wasn't Barbarian used by the Greeks to describe anyone that didn't speak Greek?
Hellbound Iscariot Correct.
From my research, I've discovered it was used to describe anyone who didn't speak the language of the Romans or Roman Empire!
Yes, but the Roman's adopted it later, as they did for other costumes of the Greeks
@Владимир Новиков "Bar-bar" meant "mumbling person" or "some who doesn't speak correctly" in Ancient Greek.
@Владимир Новиков well that became the usage. The other guy correctly points out how the term originated.
Awesome video! Been reading about this myself lately and as a Scandinavian I must say I'm surprised how influential Scandinavians have been throughout history. From the Goths and Vandals to the Rus and the Norman conquest. In a way you can say that Scandinavians lay the first bricks of what was to become the English empire and the Anglo world as well as Russia. I mean even the Angles and Jutes were from Denmark.
I know a bunch of Mexicans tha are blond and red hair they have spanish blood.
It truly is amazing as a swede to realize that my ancient ancestors was related to these people who raided and sacked all south of Europe and put the last nail in the Roman Empire coffin and settling there and ruling in different kingdoms.
Does the jutes or goths of Denmark has any ancestral trace from jatts or jaats of northern Indian subcontinent??
@@randhawaz1 I doubt it, not other than being Indoeuropean. The name might have the same-ish meaning though, from deriving from the same language group.
@@gard86 ah ok I thought hitler used an Indian used name swastika as his symbol for his party considering themselves as Aryans? I thought there were any similarities there. Anyways now world interconnected with all the past migrations. There is no real answer to all these I feel.
I'd love to see these migration maps displayed and discussed for longer periods and in greater detail
And now we know why EU4’s Theodoro exists
Squids Ah I see you are a man of blobbing as well
I played as Portugal once and made it my mission to prop up Byzantium and Theodoro for no other reason then to f*ck with the Turks :P
Arthas Menethil my kinda player
Squids They were the weirdest, a Greek State with a Gothic populous, surrounded by Crimeans.
@@baronofbahlingen9662 Who are tartars/huns/asian dudes with cool beards and mustaches who mostly came from china
It was the Vandals who settled in North Africa, not the Goths.
They’re considered part of the ‘gothic’ invaders
There is plenty of tagging to document this.
The Vandals, Langobards and Goths were all part of the East Germanic family, so basically brothers. Actually the Goths were going to invade Africa in 410 but a storm destroyed their fleet and king Alaric died of malaria in southern Italy. His brother-in-law Athaulf became king and his first act was to turn the Goths around and march them into Gaul, which had been weakened by a civil war and was ripe for conquest.
@Johnny Doe the fanatic terrorists certainly are.
@@dc4457 Longobards.
If you are looking for gothic legacy have a look in the iberian peninsula
so it was proto vikings who essentially ended western rome? hmm
@iammaxhailme pretty much
Proto Norse*
Romans ended themselves with civil war, assassinations of top generals and failed campaigns in Persia. Germanic people were just opportunists who struck at the right time. Read about Germanicus-he would've conquered Germania if he was not assassinated by Tiberius.
Isn't proto Viking techno Vikings cousin?
@tiglath pileser Bullshit the Romans didn't conquer it because they initially wanted to grab Persia first. The wealth of Germany was controlling all the Germanic maniacs and using them as soldiers instead of letting them run hog wild for 1,500 ruining the world like they did.
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Knowledgia , I totally agree, although when you realize that the goths were pretty much Slavs, just as were germans (most notably Prussians - only a little bit different than Russians) , you will start to see that Slavs were the Greatest warriors the world has ever seen...
@Knowledgia. Completely agree with you. They are really awesome :)
They became edgy teenagers.
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Do you need a map?
edgy? lol they wish.
but bein edgy is cool
@abcde fghij Palestine was never a country it's name originates in Egypt not where Israel is case closed
@@christianpathfinder6864 and israel has had multiple empires as cantonites being taken over multiple times but still keeping their land up until expulsion by the romans.
I just wanna say , your channel is just WOW. It really addresses some of the most interesting historical topics well narrated. Keep the amazing work. literally one of the best pasttime and history channels on all youtube !!
Great video! I’ve been really interested since an animated brief Ted lesson on goths and the evolution of the term “gothic” - nice to hear more details on the ethnic group.
I remember as a kid being fascinated with the Goths/Visigoth and Vandals, but espcially by the formers when a show called "barbarians" first aired in the history channel. I remember I went on to read about Alaric and other Goth history.
Me being interested in history and genealogy a few years ago I took a 23Andme genetic test. Ironically, it turns out that my YDNA (AKA direct paternal line or genetic surname) is R-M405, or R1B-S21, / R1B-u106 which is extremely common in Germany and the Netherlands and associated with Germanic tribes.
This means it's possible that my direct paternal ancestor was a Goth running around Europe and helping destroy the Western Roman Empire. Is also fascinating think that this line likely went from northern Europe to Crimea, to the Iberian peninsula, to the Canary Islands in the 1500's and then ended up in the Hispaniola island in the late 1600's where it has probably remained static for the past 300 years as my family and me still live in the same town that dude from the Canary islands settled.
Of course, is also likely that the Y-dna ended up in Spain via the Vandals or some other Germanic group, but to me, it's ironic and fascinating that there is high possibility that my direct paternal ancestors were at some point Goths.
It’s weird that alot of Spanish/Portuguese people are finding out that they’re related to the Visigoths.
@@CarvedStonesbecause they haved mix with romanian or iberian population
@@elcoringas For sure, the Suebi as well, as they mostly stood in what is now northern Portugal and northwest Spain.
It would be interesting to know about all the contributing groups that make up the modern day Italians. Thank you for this excellent video. So much learned in just 10 minutes.
I really enjoy the "oh by the way" tone in your script. Its amazing to discover new channels that have a true love for history and why the world looks like it is
Dont forget the original goths that still live today, the swedes. Swedish DNA and the DNA of a gothic corpse from northwestern Poland have proven to be almost identical.
They discovered MDMA and they now spend their days raving underneath bridges
Love how you break down the narrative, great work. Can I use parts of your narrative for my own animated history videos? Naturally I do my own voice-overs, but I'd like to use the 'script' structure that you have, if that's ok with you. Proper writing credits would be given to you of course.
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history marche is amazing
Great work historymarche
The ancient goths dont have their origin in Southern Sweden they have their origins in Southern Scythia (Skandza) they trace their origin to the Thracian getae who trace their origin to the Messagetae who trace their origin the Mehlahens who trace their origin to the Sarmatians who are Scythians who are the ancestors of the Slavs/Russians thus making the Goths an early derivative of the early Slavs/Russians, Vandals and Alans have similar origins (Alans from Roksoalans and Vandals from Veneti who were both branches of the Great Slavic family).
@@RA-ns5vg Ya they do they trace their ancestry to the Messagetae and the Mehlahens who trace their ancestry to the Scythian/Sarmatians and the Sarmatians are not Iranian, Scythian/Sarmatian is the name of the people that were living in the Eastern part of Eastern Europe and who are the main ancestors of the Slavs/Russian, genetics found in burials confirm this and medieval maps identify Scythia/Sarmatia as Russia, the Aryans the Eastern branch of the Scythians speak Sanskrit which derives from old Russian and spawns the Iranian languages but the Scythian/Sarmatians do not come from Iranic peoples.
Thanks! That was a lot of information in a short time and well presented.
The human narration is much appreciated over the computer voice far too many channels use. Well done!
Really interesting video, truly fascinating!
It'd be pretty cool if you could do a series covering specific Native American tribes throughout north and South America. Amazing videos as always.
One little mistake: the germans were not called huns because of the involvement of germanic tribes in the hunnic conquest, it was because emperor Wilhelm II. hold a speech, called "Hunnenrede" because of the Boxer rebellion in China. Before sending troops to end the uprising he said in the speech that as the word "hun" lives on in history and fables being feared, the word "german" shall be feared in China so much that no Chinese never even dares to look at a german malevolantly.
Thanks honey
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You are cool! So thorough, enthusiastic and highly researched you are. I enjoy!
I'm proud to say that I'm a direct descendant from the Visigoths, Latins, Ostrogoths, and even Hebrews. Nice video man!!!
Great video as always. I have done a lot of research on this topic, but there was a lot of new information for me. I wish you would do a video about the Bavarians because they are very interesting and there is not a lot of information to go by.
Hey man could you possibly do a video about the habesha people (eritreans and ethiopia) theres alot of interesting facts about the land and its people with emipres and kingdoms dating back to 1000-500 BC. Nice video btw. Bye
Yeah and some other things
I love these videos ! They are always so interesting. Keep up the good work :)
Amazing video as usual!! Thanks!!
The Goths more likely originated from the island of Gotland in Sweden rather than from mainland Götaland.
Oh....sounds like a little island......really...?
Hey Little Harry, Fjollträsk is Stockholm only were indeed Scandinavia's largest cesspits exist.
I'd have to agree. Mythology of the ancient Germanic put them in a mix with another culture (estimated to be Phoenician). They followed the man Herakles to the north for a better home on the island of Gotland. Years later they left the island due to overpopulation to the Balkans and Dacia. Though that's just following mythology.
Crimean Goths moved to Dacia and later learnt to spake propr germanic.
The Goth came from both Gotland, Östergötland, Västergötland and Jutland (in Denmark)
I'm from Sweden, VästerGÖTLAND and can hear and understand the connections!
In these countries, the Goths provided the words that we use now for war. The spanish "Guerra" comes from the old german "wæra" where the word "War" also comes from
Guerra, word present also in Italian derives from the language of the Franks and it became part of the Italian language through medieval Latin.
not true.. the goths were from Gotland. Not germany. They didnt speak old german. Guerra, in swedish, is Krig. Krig sounds nothing like waera... The goths were goths, not germans.
@@jgdhjjdkgj1857 Well, in German it’s ‘Krieg’ so...
@@Fabbisj In modern high german, not in ancient proto-germanic.
@@jgdhjjdkgj1857 they were germanic, not german, hence OPs confusion
So entertaining. Wow! Thank you so much! Chalked full of information.
Love this channel, great work!!
I really like how we don't even have to wait for the end of a sentence for RUclips to insert a commercial. The commercial cuts in right in the middle of a word! Thanks RUclips!
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I once read somewhere that some members of the (former) Spanish nobility can actually track down their ancestry to Spanish Visigoths.
It’s because the Visigoths played a major influence on the reconquista as it was some visigothic noblemen and some Asturias mountain men (cantabrians) who pushed back the Muslim advance and founded the kingdom of Asturias.
Thank you for this short, but informative, video. It's always interesting to about the origin of things.
Thank you so much. That was so helpful.
The goths were more of a confederation of allied tribes than a enthnical pure germanic tribe.
Yeah, there were quite a lot of Eastern Germanic leaders with clearly Slavic names, so we shouldn't think about Goths like they're a single ethnicity.
The Goths never called themselves German or Germanic and no ancient source makes any mention of such a thing. Gothic is considered in modern times to be a "Germanic" language. The real question here is what language did the ancient Germanics speak before Gothic was partially adopted by them?
The Germanic tribes have Illyrian Thracian backgrounds
They were definately not a pure Germanic tribe after being away from Scandinavia, having picked up peoples across their migrations (especially in what are now Ukraine and Italy), but a good number of them were still of Germanic/Swedish origin, as their language, names, foods, and culture lived on in places like Spain, Italy, and France. Names like Hilda, Nilda/Nelda, Isidore that are still common in Spain, Italy, and France (and like the Spanish Visigothic princess Brunhilda of Wagner opera fame). Words for bank, cardinal signs, etc. That very Germanic love of pork and pork products like ham and sausages,
@@dannhymir9678 Isidore is a Greek name.
Well, in theory, the longest living goths were the ones who remained in Götaland then.
The most Germanic people are still in Scandinavia, although most of them are kind of passive people. They stayed kind of isolated for centuries while the southern Germans constantly invaded other teritorries.
@@starfox300 busy fighting themselves lmao
@@starfox300 Southern Germanics mixed extensively with other populations. Slavs, Celts, Baltic, Latins, Hungarians. This is why Hitler, Gobles, Himmler, had dark hair. Scandos didn't mix.
As an amateur Gothic historian, I love the accuracy and thorough research that went into this video. There are, to my knowledge, no factual errors or misleading statements. Great job!
Love your content Masaman! Fascinating stuff!
Goths: Europe, lets totally reshuffle your genetic make up!
Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth 7:14 the Wise?
I thought not. It's not a story ostrogoths would tell.
Pelagius not plagueis XD
Björn Lundberg source please
Very good video. Thanks!
I absolutely agree with your last sentence in the end of your video. Thanks.
We still a tiny minority in North east Algeria. Proud Germanic Vandal descent of a Nordic phenotype !
@bavares bavares what about the Arabs in Algeria, how are them?
@@matheuspinheiro4796 there's difference between ethnicity and race arab is an ethnic groupe. genetically there is no middle easterns in algeria
@@reddragon6103 naturally
I thought the Goths fell to the Emo Kids
Fuck no lol the emos couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, they'd just cry about it and then cut themselves and hopefully bleed out and die. I identify as Goth, not just the subculture, but also from my European heritage.
James Vinson hi bro goths r called jatt in Punjab India...i m a jatt...
@@jamesvinson3998 You are not european, fuck off
That fell to the SJWs who are falling to Gen Zs.
Great video. Thanks.
As usual a great video. You pointed out something I had not thought of. The Gothic names of Spain, and the link to new world. Nicely done.
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You should make a video that’s just a time lapse of Eurasia or the world over a few thousand years or something I think it would be pretty cool
Love this channel, Mason! Can you do a video about the three major Indigenous ethnic groups of the Andes: the Quechua, the Aymara, and the Mapuche? Including the history of the Inca Empire.
Excellent presentation and superb soundtrack.
Another excellent video! 👍👌👏
Can we expect a similar video for the Etruscans ?
Batman Beyond they where most likely absorbed by the early Romans
VERY INDO-EUROPEAN Nice profile pic and username
VERY INDO-EUROPEAN No their culture and heritage were destroyed by the late islamic invasion...Masson/ Massaman.
Nantz Stein what are you talking about? Etruscans were an italic civilization that fell to Rome way before islam was a thing.
Antonio Carbone No they were assimilated into latin civilization and the rest of their culture disappeared with the Islamic invasion to Italy.
9:21 the Spanish-German footballer Mario Gomez is EXTRA Germanic then.
Thanks. A lot of information I did not know. Thank you very much.
Very interesting video!
I find it fascinating that so many ethnic groups have lived in Iberia: Celts, Germanics, Iranians, Arabs, Basque, latins ...
Add Slavs to that mix :P
Really! Who were they?
Ever heard of Saqaliba? They were mostly slaves brought from either the Balkans or West Slavic areas like Czechia, Poland and Polabia. Most young boys converted at early age to Islam and were fanatical guardians of the various rulers in Al-Andalus. So, they worked at various position within the Caliphate, from house servants, to eunuchs on the courts of emirs, to mercenaries and various warriors, like already mentioned Saqaliba Guard.
They were present everywhere in the Arab world - although many of them were present in Iberia, they were also in the Maghreb, Egypt, even as far as Iraq. Hell, there is actually a Polish expedition, I don't know where exactly, but either to Morroco or Algeria, where Polish professors are searching for ancient fortress of Saqaaliba, deep in the mountains.
Hassan hedaz add Mongols huns and other Eurasian to that list
Not in ancient times but the khazars that moved to East Europe (Germany Poland etc) in the 8th or 9th centuries eventually in more recent times migrated all over Europe
I'm a Goth. The alternate spelling of my last name is Gudas. The etymology of which is Gutans, which means Goth. My mom's side were also Germans that settled in Crimea, but as far as I know, they never claimed descent from the Goths.
Thanks for bringing facts without judgement.
This channel is AWESOME.
The Goths gave us one of the best music genres ever. And some of the most iconic bands. 🥳
• Bauhaus
• Siouxsie and The Banshees 😍
• Switchblade Symphony 😍
(to name but a few)
Zamn.
I wish the Vandals, Visigoths, and Crimean Goths survived to the present, they are all so cool and it would be awesome to see Gothic countries in the present and how they would coexist with others, likely the Visigothic and Vandal languages would mix with Latin and become standardized while Vandal would also have a lot of Arabic, Greek, Berber, and Punic influence as well, likely they would be Islamic or Catholic, the Crimean Goths would likely remain the same or similar to how they were in the 1700s.
why would the vandals not be arians?
The Crimean Goths are the longest surviving Goths. Over many generations, they had become assimilated into Greek and Tartar speaking populations of Crimea. The last group may had been assimilated into Crimean Tartar population according to Soviet ethnologist V. E. Vozgrin with the reports of a series Tartar villages inhabited by inhabitants with stature and features identical to Scandinavians. The Nazis on the other hand believed that last of the Crimean Goths had assimilated into Crimean German population. During the late 1700s, Germans, Russians and Ukrainians were encouraged to settle in Crimea in order to weaken the Crimean Tartar population. It is possible that the Crimean Goths did assimilation in to the populations of the new settlers as well as Crimean Tartar population which hastened their disappearance as a distinct people.
I enjoyed this little history lesson, well done.
This has truly cleared up alot of confusion for me
Well, I have a Visigoth last name from Rey Rodrigo, or Rudericus, the Last King of the Visigoths!
I am Rodrigo Alexandre, what a powerful sounding name.
Gothian or Old High German Rodrigo or Roderigo is Rothrih or Rothrich.
Luis is from Germanic Klodwig that changed to Lodwig/Ludwig. The d got lost to lowi(g) and so on.
Most spanish people have visigoth (family) names. Gonzales, Rodriguez, Fernandez, etc.
me too, He was also know as Don Roderic the name would mean the lord of power and glory, Rodriguez means The Sons of (Rodrigo) Power and Glory. just thought id throw that in, He must have escaped the ambush there are a lot of Rodriguez's
at least his wife poisoned that Muslim.
Adrian Rodriguez : hahahahahahahaha !!
One of the best remnants of that time is engraved in my language, Spanish, many Gothic words are present in it, but I one word I want to speak of is “Vándalo” which means “Thief, Outlaw, Criminal”, but the word comes from the Vandals: a Gothic tribe who conquered Spain for a small time.
Great video as always, I just subscribed.
Fantastic! Thanks😊
I am aproofed (DNA test) of Gothic origin, but "Not real Goths" killed me (∩w∩)
The Goths had a significant influence on the Spanish language. Words like guerra, jardin, guardia and many last names and names such as Alberto, Roberto, Rodrigo, Gutierrez, -ez, etc.
the "dark ages" were full of spiritual, artistic, scientific, and cultural development
Great stuff
_"it was only the lazy and unenterprising Goths who had remained in Sweden, whereas the heroic Goths had left Sweden, invaded the Roman empire and settled in Spain."_
Christigoth lmao
And then us "lazy" goths became even glorious vikings later
The Swedes were kinda lazy in the viking age too.
@@reed3249 they did found the Kievan Rus so if nothing else in the long term they created hard bass.
Not so heroics,they first were mercenarys of Rome,after the empire's fall they became to Spain and created the visigoth kingdom(in alliance with the romans),late they losed their religion(arrianism),their language and identity(because of the Rome church pressure),and in the end the muslims invaded the Iberian Peninsule.
To sum up:
-Visigoths melted into the Iberian pot
-Ostrogoths were completely assimilated into the Italians
-Vandals of North Africa were wiped out.
It sounds like there just weren't that many to start with?
Vandals are still prresent with the berbers/
I read somewhere that each tribe that migrated numbered only about 20 to 40 thousand total. Maybe that's why they didn't leave much of a mark behind other than names, which were passed down from their royalty and nobility.
very nice video, subbed and liked
Thanks for solving a long unanswered question
Goths: they get together and have raves in underpasses
That's funny, I was just wondering the same thing. I haven't seen one since at least 2008.
It was a mindblowing episode!
Good lecture. Will pass it on...
I love how the Vandals and Goths became negative terms during the Renaissance. They were seen as savages and uncultured. It's obviously why Vandal is used now to describe a destructive person and Gothic architecture was actually initially a derogatory term. If a building was described as Gothic it was ugly, harsh, etc.
02:33 Not entirely correct. There was the well known Hun speech of emperor Wilhelm II. where he referred to the German troops as huns to glorify them.
Very good and interesting videos my friend I might press the sub button
That Gomez reference made my day, thank you.
fun fact: In Italian the word for hotel "Albergo" comes from gothic "Harri-Berg" which meant "shelter of the army"
Interesting the Danish word for hostel is herberg, which basically translates to Army-mountain. Though the mountain part could be explained by being from a non-danish or german origin.
Carewolf Probably a cognate,maybe you fine shelter in the Mountains (?) i dunno lol.
@ Giulio...
As a speaker of ancient Gothic I doubt "harri-berg" would have been used as a term by the Goths. Perhaps "harjis-baurg" without the "e" and pronounced like a hard "u" like in English "boot" "-oo-". This would literally mean "army-town".
Getwulf it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_gotica I'll righfully blame wikipedia
@ Giulio...
Ha...! ha...! Wikipedia... the source of so much confusion! No worries... I find even professional researchers make some seriously dumb mistakes.
Another great video, you should do a video on The North Welsh Kingdom of Strathclyde ,which lasted from the Dark Ages to the 12th century ,when it was divided up between Scotland and England, and claims Old King Cole as its most famous ruler.
What happened to the music? ㅠㅠ Love that piece ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
... "as for the alans, although they no longer exists as a group in Iberia" ...not only caucasians, but Catalans too may have some legacies related to the last of the alans. Portugals may have something related to the last of the gauls. Early peoples did not vanished, they are here even today. We all are their descendents.
Mihaly Hosszu problem is- other nations wont recognise this.
Alans left mark in Catalonia, France, Balkan and Besarabia.
There is their blood still going around.
What on earth happened to Avar kaganate. Avars made same journey from Central Asia and China to Europe. Heard about story of Mulan? Seems it's binded to Avar invasion in China
Well, Avar khaganate emploded after the wars with the Franks, many of the Slavs created their own states in the area. Then the Magyars came and assimilated any remaining Avar population.
kid tsunami they got wiped out by the east frankish empire/ hre. They invaded todays austria a couple of times and initially defeated the german knights defending against them, killing so many that the existance of the empire got endangered (though at this time there were no longer the massive armies of antiquity, meaning that it was at max a couple of hundred knights. I don't recall the exact amount, but i remember being puzzled, back in the lecture about this, how few they actualy were and still the empire almost collapsed because of it) though an expidition was sent to the avar settlements and ravaged their families and lifestook, forcing the avare army to retreat and accept a german victors peace. A couple of years later they started a second invasion, but once again were forced to retreat and swear to never attack the east frankish empire again. After they started to raid a third time (having a pretty diminished fighting force left), their fsmilies and later the returning raiding parties were simply wiped out of existance by the german knights.
The Croats came to modern day Croatia for the purpose of expelling the Avars, either on their own accord or being invited by the Byzantine Emperor Heraclitus. After their defeat some Avars survived in the Croatian principality and even today the inhabitants of the island of Hvar in Dalmatia have Avaric genetic markers.
a couple things i think - croats that came from white(west) croatia defeat avars and take some lands from them (but later become weaker and become avar vassal) . frankish empire that defeat them and force to take christianity in 796. but the end of avars was new very powerfull force that came to this region that time - magyars (hungarians) - they take avars lands and assimilate them.
Croats, Serbs and Bulgarians have the same Avarian-Turkish origin (Mongolian)
Iberian Peninsula is where Celts,Goths,Vandals,Suebians,Alans,Carthaginians,Romans,Vikings,Berbers and Moors all mixed together.What an interesting place.
Thank God there r a few smart channels left. Great channel!
Andalusia=Vandalusia
"Andalucía" ("Andalusia" in English) comes from Al-andalus in Arab. Before the muslin invasion in the VIII century, that southern region of Spain was known as Betica or Baetica.
Invictus Magerit Wikipedia knowledge my friend ;). Read everything properly: The etymology of the name "al-Andalus" has traditionally been derived from the name of the Vandals; however, a number of proposals since the 1980s have challenged this contention. Halm in 1989 derived the name from a Gothic term, *landahlauts,[9] and in 2002, Bossong suggested its derivation from a pre-Roman substrate.[10].
Would be good if you compare this ancient germanic language of goths to any other language in Europe.
Yes. And Wenden means Slavians(German language). And Wanda was Polish Princess (735-740)
Did not know that.
In Albanian name Vandali means autochrhonous
Vandali - Vendali