The Disappearance of the Eastern Germans
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- Before WWII and the rise of Communism in the East, tens of millions of Germans inhabited the region of Eastern Europe, but now only a paltry handful remain. How and why did nearly 20 million souls disappear from their homelands almost overnight in one of the most stunning vanishing acts in world history?
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My grandmother was a German that was spared expulsion from Poland. Her family was semi-polonized already, they never supported the nazi regime and spoke decent Polish. They were required to change their surname to a Polish one and were basically left alone to live as Poles if they desired to stay (they did). I am truly sad that my grandmother died when I was still a small child and many stories she could have told me are gone now.
A lot of people do not realise that there were dozens of thousands of Germans that were not expelled for that exact reason.
They had a prove that they were not supporting the Nazis and they were semi assimilated.
Meanwhile there were also far too many that were supportive of Nazis.
So you had ethnic conflicts where a nation of people lost a war where the goal was to exterminate or enslave the majority groups ethnicity in a given region.
Population was scattered across countries.
The hate and grieve CES of the war, combined with destruction would likely led to balkan-like conflict between the Slavic people and the Germans. Even just during the expulsion there were many individuals acts of such violence.
But also, the WW2 was not the first instance. Poland on its own was partitioned 3 times and 3 times the argument was that Germans resided there.... so after such mass conflict happened they expelled Germans out.
Was it kind? No. Yet between a never ending ethnic conflict and unstable region... between a complete potential for a German genocide... the expulsion was the least conflict-filled action one could have taken towards stability
Mega ciekawe
Mine was the same except name change, her sisters moved to Hamburg
Very similar story with my great-grandparents. My great grandpa was Wehrmaht soilder from Ostpreussen (not volunterilly of course, when the war started he was 40 years old) and fight in eastern front. Before the war ended he became Soviet prison of war. Some time after the war he was transported to Berlin and relased with other german soilders, but decided to come back home to check what happened to his familly. Luckily his wife and children was still there. They stayed in Poland, in now Masuria, until his death in 1960. They already had polish surname but had to change their names to sound more polish (great grandfather Willi was renamed as Wacław, my grandpa Ulrich was renamed as Julian, his sister Ebeltraud was Małgorzata etc.). All of his children was young when war started and they grew up in Poland, graduated polish schools and spoke polish (my grandpa don't even know german at all). Since 70s majority of my great-grandpa children (and theirs families) migrated to West Germany an aquired citizenship, eventually even his widow did the same. Only child that stayed in Poland was my grandpa.
my family did not even have to change their names
i asked my mom if the poles told my family to leave and she said the polish communists said you can stay but if you want to leave we wont stop you
pretty descent attitude, now compare it to the choices the germans gave the poles and jews
As an American I think the germans are rotten people
While talking about the expulsion of German people, it's worth noting that there were also large portions of Polish (which are Slavs) population that were being expelled from what we would now call Western Ukraine and Belarus. This wasn't done with the consent of either Polish or German people - Soviet Union had an obssession of reverting countries to their "default", pre-imperialistic shape. The presence of Poles in historically ruthenian lands was considered a result of Polish imperialism. The presence of Germans in Lower Silesia or Pomerania was also seen as a result of German imperialism. So the Soviets moved huge masses of people with no regard to their will. My grandparents were Polish Nationals living in Lviv before WW2.
OMG thanks for sharing
@@gRs3jVan26SBJ
Its not ukraines fault its the soviets fault
@Scandanavian Ukrainian communists participated in the mass expulsion of Poles from modern day Belarus and Western Ukraine, not only Russian communists, Belarusian communists, Kazakh communists, and partisans etc... those are all called in one word Soviets.
So Ukrainian communists participated in colonizing and exterminating Poles from Galicia ( west Ukraine) and Belarus and because of that those territories are Ukrainian and Belarusian land respectively 1
Except it wasn't imperialism. Both Germans and Poles naturally migrated further eastwards, and mixed in with people who were already there.
And that's a good thing
"greatest vanishing tricks in history" thats a funny way to say genocide
U lose a war, this is the outcome
@@danrook5757 what a despicable comment. if that's your mindset, i hope you lose a war one day c:
A. Rx : obviously u know nothing if that’s what u post. Read some books.
@@danrook5757 "read books" which ones?
@@danrook5757 it’s one thing to not approve of the doctrine of the Nazis and the harm and destruction they caused but to do the same upon people just because they share a common ethnicity is disgusting fuck you honestly
Ethnic diversity in central and eastern Europe is an absolutely magnificent topic for a book.
And it's also a good thing that it's over.
ethnic diversity is strength
@DanRage47 It's not because Whites are Nazis and Africans are superior. It's just that people tend to migrate, they have done it for thousands, even millions of years. That's not bad, that's just the way it is. Nothing's constant.
From what I can see, less Germans (less diversity) = more security
@@nirad8026 Indeed
I am a descendants of eastern Germans. Are family home was destroyed along with all our village records and we believe the rest of our family was killed. I can't thank you enough for making a video on my people and the terrible expulsion and murder of so many. I love your videos and keep up the great work!
😞
If you are in some country speaking your own language then you are a foreigner and you should not expect the same rights as the natives who also have the responsibility for defending that country If you love being German so much then go back to Germany
What village?
Tough
@@Userius1 dont start a war
dont try to genocide whole ethnic/religious groups of people
and you wont have to bitch and moan on youtube decades later
simple
now try to get that thru a thick krauts head
impossible
Another notable element to this story;
Many ethnic Germans who fled from places like the Ukraine alongside the retreating German army were later dragged back to Russia by the soviets.
My grandparents (on both sides of the family), originally Black Sea Germans, were in Germany at the end of the war. They were intending to settle in. But appearently the Soviets considered them part of their own population, wether they liked it or not.
So they were forcefully transported to Russia, suffering terrible living conditions and discrimmination by the local russians. It was only in the mid-70's that my parents managed to get permission to leave the soviet union for Germany.
And they some of the lucky few. Most ethnic Germans in Russia only got to return to Germany after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Yeah my family has a similar story, they came back to Germany around 1990
Half my family were Danube-Schwaben and managed the survive the Russian purges in the east, they fled after the wall fell. A lot of sad stories from those times..
Massaman is wrong: Germans never migrated to Siberia but suffered deportation under Stalin in this region. The easternmost settlements were in the Caucasus region and in the Ural mountains.
@@rudolfkraffzick642 Where does he say Germans migrated to Siberia? He talks about them being "scattered across Siberia", which is not exactly the word choice for peaceful migration.
Haha take it Russians can hate germany for what they did.
I'm a hungarian german. It's good to hear about our history. :-)
No it's Gothic
@Alex Chelu neumerker is his lastname. Attila is his first name
@Alex Chelu but why? It doesnt make sense. Family name is only lastname 😶
@@attilalukacs9602 Attila is turkic name
@Alex C again Attila is turkic name
This is a great short explanation of a lot of history that is unknown to most people in North America. I have German East Prussian and Volga German ancestry on my mother's side, and what you said fits in exactly with their experiences. My paternal great grandfather was also part of an insular Czech community that had been living in Poland for hundreds of years. They still saw themselves as Czech and spoke Czech.
When I tell people my grandfather's family still saw themselves as German even after living in the Ukraine/Russia for generations and did not inter-marry with the local population, most people immediately assume it has to be because of some Nazi ideology.... It's quite tiring to constantly explain to people.
volga germans suffered greatly but still survive.
You should take a Y-dna test
@@thricecrazy33 Very strong people
Why would you want to live in another country and not assimilate? If you are so nuts about being German then stay in Germany I dont think the Poles, Czechs and Russians were begging you to come. In America Germans assimilated and there are no problems here. You people create a bad situation then whine about it. As an American I dont get it
@@youarewrong5523 As a woman she cant but the name is obviously slavic not that any of that matters to anyone
about 1 million germans died between 1945-1947 due to forced relocation. Notably, after ww2.
Not entirely correct. Nearly all died in the first half year of 1945. Also according to official history around 2 million of the 12 million Germans living east of the current German borders died.
@@roodborstkalf9664 what was the cause of death
many causes, but mostly murder, but also starvation, extremely cold weather during their flight, being caught up in fighting between Soviet and German troops, also allied bombing and mining of ships in the Baltic, and for those sent there, being worked to death with little food in the Gulag, mostly in Siberia.
@@roodborstkalf9664 so fucking horrid. Imagine all those people around the world at this time grabbing worktools instead of weapons. How our world would look like then. WTF is wrong with mankind.
Make it 2.5 Million.
My friend's grandparents ( opa and oma)are both in their 90s and were born and raised in German speaking areas of Eastern Europe. The oma was from what is now Serbia and speaks with a strong German accent but also speaks Hungarian and Serbian fluently. All the Germans in her village were expelled at the end of the war , their farms were taken . Many had to escape and many were put into concentration camps and died. The opa was from Prussia ( now Western Poland). Both have amazing stories of survival and eventually migrated to North America in the late 1950s
John Fox Maybe the beginning of the NWO.
My grand parents were from Konigsberg/ kaliningrad
Im from Serbia, i know for a german minority there, they came within the time of Austria-Hungary. They were expelled by communist regime because they cooporated with SS division. Im sorry for your grandparents, not all Germans cooporated with SS but big majority did. And of course they had not been in Concentration camps. By the way, my country is giving back the property of german famillies to their descendants, so if you want, you can get it back. Cheers!
I wonder if they were Nazis. Ask them if they collaborated with Nazi Germany against the local population. How many they shot or send to the concentration camps. Just ask and let us know.
@@lukei6255 nope, now the West controls the Balkans and we can see that, Turkey is concentrated on Asia where it actually belongs
My grandmother's family emigrated from Schwabia or Bavaria down the Danube to Tatabanya, Hungary in 1643, about half of their village did and formed a new town. The story I was told is the original inhabitants had been wiped out by plague and no one was working the land so no tax revenue was being generated, so the king gave them the land for free. My grandmother was born in 1905 and they still spoke german in her village and maintained their own customs.
My grandmother's family has a similar story. They were the so-called Donauschaben. She emigrated to Uruguay after Trianon, where I live now. We still speak German. My sons too.
Argentina coughs in the background*
We are always forgotten because the world thinks that is just another hispanic mestizo country but that is not really the case
@I HATE TOUCANS That is true, but not in the case of many of us who are of germanic, slavic, nordic, etc ancestry. most of latin america nations are mostly mestizos with the exception of south brazil uruguay and most of argentina. It is notisable that the image that the world has about SA is the US depiction of the mexicans who are mostly mestizos.
@@ivanadiego6067 La imagen que da Estados Unidos sobre Latinoamérica es porque así son realmente los Latinos que ellos conocen y que están cercanos a ellos
Argentina, Chile y Uruguay son una excepción en Latinoamérica.
My great grandfather was a German Jew originally from Odessa he migrated to Argentina in the 20shence my surename is Stein aguante 🇦🇷
@@ivanadiego6067 maradona is a meztizo
I remember my university professor for a course on modern Europe saying once "After WW1 borders moved but the people didn't. After WW2 people moved but borders didn't." The more I learn the more right he is in saying that.
That’s honestly a brilliant summary
German borders changed after WW2. Pomerania, Silesia and Prussia were inside German borders before.
He's a dumbass. Borders did shift, although not that drastically.
@CipiRipi00 Sure not that drastically, though for me as German it had big effects. Many Germans have at least one grandparent coming from the former eastern provinces or the former German settled parts of Bohemia. So as a German of my generation you grew up with stories about their old homelands, where they could never return to.
except in the Balkans, where people were moved by agreement
My grandfather is an ethnic German born in Hungary in 1938. He was deported to East Germany after the war and eventually made his way to Canada. Similar story for my grandmother, whose parents were ethnic Germans from Transylvania
Hungarian Germans are a very important part of German ethnic history. Germans settled along side the banks of the ancient lake "Balaton", (Plattensee), and were known to the Ancient Romans!
There are still pockets of Germans in both countries to this day.
My parents and ancestors lived in the now Romanian province of Banat in a village called Liebling which has retained its name. Province was home to almost 2 million ethnic Germans prior to WW2 Unfortunately the majority of Liebling' s citizens fled westward to avoid the Red Army in 1944 . Those adult males and females who remained were sent off to the Russia to mine coal for 4-5 Years , many not returning. Stalins reparations
Not enough reparations.
My mother from Werschetz, just across the border from Romania was one of them.
@@patriciabrenner9216 Spoken like a true lover of mankind. It's people like you who sheepishly swallow war propaganda and make the next one inevitable.
@@patriciabrenner9216Your're a rightous one, I see, they were civilians and didn't deserve any of that.
Liebling, that's a cute village name. Means "Darling" in English
I talked to an ethnic German woman in Germany in 1999 who had been booted out of Czechoslovakia in 1946. I think she must have been quite young then. She said the Czechoslovak army came to her village one day, knocked on each door, and told the residents that they had 24 hours to get out of town. They took this very seriously and packed up whatever they could carry and left. I don't know the rest of her story, just that part of it.
Why were there so many Germans in Czechoslovakia?
they had mercy over her, when germans knocked to the door of poles the poles had no time.
@@borzmir9326 When the polish "liberation" army came prussians didnt even heard a knocking, just mass shootings and mass rapings ... and the worst was to come in the form of the red Army wich pushed the polish "liberation" army in front of them, wich extended the mass rapings and killings even further. Those polish wich were anti jewish starting with the polish anti jew movement in 1920 (even before Hitler thought about it) were cheering when the German army marched in and took care of the jews and now when they had the chance of expansion to the times of polish medival expansion they didnt waste a single second to exterminate those wich they cheered on years before.
Story isnt as black and white as you were clearly thaught to think it were.
@@borzmir9326 BS.
@@rorikkbluetoothh5773No BS, same thing in Serbia. Still, I'm not justifying the expulsion.
The romanian nobility wasn't German, only the royal family. After the unification of Wallachia and Moldavia under Prince Ioan Cuza, they needed a foreign king to legitimate the union in the eyes of the bigger and more powerfull countries. In fact Romania entered WWI on the ANTANT side.
And then the Romanians surrendered.
Just wanna point out that the Kaiser and King Ferdinand were both Hohenzollerns, yes, but brothers, no.
True, and I don't know where from Massaman pulled out this falsehood, there is no source for this allegation. In Transilvania Germans were farmers, kraftsmen and merchands, landlords were Hungarians and some assimilated Romanians from the nobility pre-existing Hungarian invasion and succesive expansion, such as Hunyad, Banfy, Dragfy, Kendefy and others.
Consider WW1 a family feud that got out of control:-)
Europe in general was mostly ruled by a handful of families which were more or less related to each other.
Using us, their respective populations as expendable pawns in their own dick contest.
Anyone refusing to be that pawn, was considered unpatriotic and a coward.
For some reason, I was surprised by German's in Kyrgyzstan.
Warum haben Sie die Deutsche in Kyrgistan überrascht? Alle Deutschen wurden nach Erlass von Stalins vom 28.08.1941 zwangsumgesiedelt nach Sibirien,Каsachstsn, Kyrgistan.Einige sind noch da geblieben, aber die Meisten Deutschen sind in den 90-Jahren nach Deutschland gegangen.
When I was in the Air Force, stationed in Germany, back in 2008, I had the chance to go TDY to Romania for a few months. During my time there, I went on an MWR trip to Transylvania. We stopped in a couple of cities and you could tell by the architecture that the place was built by Germans.
Yeah because transilvanya was under austrian dominion for hundreds of years
@@bubulolo207 the german presence there was (mostly) because of hungary. The hungarian kings invited german settlers to transsylvania-Siebenbürgen in the 12/13th century
@@dilemma8550 oh yeah i learned fromt that un sibiu, i forgot. German colonizers, super interesting
@@bubulolo207 when have you been to sibiu-hermannstadt?
@@dilemma8550 like 1 week ago, why?
This is a history that must be told to the world. It is unfortunate that so few people know this story! My congratulations for your beautiful work. I suggest you make a video about the Germans exploding from their territories in the east. Pomerania, Silesia, West and East Prussia.
Nice try. First you conquer Pomerania, Silesia, West and East Prussia and massacre or assimilate it's native inhabitants and then you cry on the deportation after the failed attempt to genocide entire nations. Leave the history to historians and live fully at the present days
My family comes from east pomerania but they needet to migrate to todays east germany (this happened somowhat after ww2)
People often don't know how evil the polish where after ww2!
@@aeuropeannotbritish7754 The Mothers part of my Family had lived in Königsberg for centuries but after WW2 they were forcefully expelled by the Russians, from what i remember from stories that were told in my family, when my Mothers family was expelled from their Home on their way to Germany proper they were constantly insulted by the polish people who called them Nazis, German Devils and many more insults, for my family it was always important to make clear that what the polish did to the German’s who now lived in polish Territory was both Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide.
@@Wilhelm322 yes i agree the polish are evil
Yeah people should be talking about this more, rather than focusing on people like the Amerindians and Palestinians.
The Baltic Germans where repatriated before 1942 as Germany and the USSR agreed on it (Heim in Reich). After the WW2 the Allies ordered the German expulsion from Todays Poland, Czech republic, Slovakia, Yugoslavia and Hungary. Romania "sold" its Germans to Kohl. the USSR Germans moved to Germany after the collapse of the USSR.
What do you mean sold?????
Ceausescu regime got 10.000 DM for each German they allowed to leave..it even got higher with time /euronews.com/2014/08/01/trading-germans-a-secret-cold-war-trade-in-human-beings/ , they where expert in this as from Israel they got around 15.000 for each Jew they allowed to leave to Israel.
Only Romania sold its german citizens. Other countries forced out a lot of them. In the other hand for example in Hungary the german ethnic group counts more than 150 thousand people.
nigga did someone written the opposite? read my post again...
about 1 million germans died between 1945-1947 due to forced relocation. Notably, after ww2.
7:10 It's "fifth column", not "third column". A third column is actually essential for the stability of a structure.
Yep, something seemed weird when he said it and now i know why. It's an honest easy to make error most wont notice so no biggie.
"Fifth column" is actually a reference to the Spanish Civil War, which hadn't happened yet in the time mentioned by the presenter of the video. If I remember correctly, four columns of Franco's troops were approaching one of the major Spanish cities that was still under Republican control. Newspapers fretted that four enemy columns were approaching and Franco loyalists said that there was a fifth column as well; this fifth column was the people keen on seeing Franco in power within the city who would aid the approaching columns to overcome the Republican defenses.
There were also Bavarian communities in southern Greece, especially in northern suburbs of Athens and some other 1800's big cities. Today they're completely assimilated, and their descendants are like "1/8 German, 7/8 Greek"
Thank you for this video. Very informative!
Now I can stop re watching your old vids 😭
Love to Abyssinia from an Arab
I agree a very good source he is.
The Atheist Arab Much love back to you as well!
Anti Antifa I concur for I too personally find his channel stunning and soothing to watch.
@said wahb alshar'abi Lol!!! Please clarify. My understanding is all the Sabeans left Yemen and settled in north Ethiopia for security reasons. Ive seen the old Sabean writings in Ethiopia.
Do video on pre-islamic arab history
sounds very interesting
It's simple, pre Islamic Arabs were a pagan sparsely populated with a Jewish elite who ruled them. The Saudi dynasty come from that elite
@@paultremblay4836 it's not simple because pre-islamic arabs had many kingdoms like nabataean kingdom and sheba ,not all arabs were paganist there's used to be chirstian, jewish and zoroastrian arabs
You're fucking cool!
Hope there will be more people like you in the future. :)
@@intuendaecivilization9365 thx
Great content as always. I look forward to every upload, you make history and social studies so enjoyable and fascinating. Keep them coming ❤
Thank you for shining light onto this moment in German history. My father's side of our family came from the area that is now Gdansk-lots of history there. My mother's side came from the Black Forest. We are part of the German diaspora, having left at the beginning of the 19th century and avoiding the World Wars. Some of us are living in Brazil, some in the US. Would love to move back to where my ancestors lived.
You could. Idk what's stopping you now. Poland is no longer under a communist regime aligned with the USSR.
Same, my great grandparents on both sides moved to Canada right before WWI from East Prussia/Ukraine not too sure (Minus my maternal grandma's parents, they were Irish).
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Both my Polish and German ancestry come from the area of Silesia. I know very well, the conflicts and actions on both Slavic and Germanic sides resulting from not being Polish enough or German enough. A video on Silesia would be great.
Silesian Uprising rings a bell?
nanabijou62 I like your profile picture
My family was from Breslau and i visit this town in 2005 , i enjoy it , and its good the german and poles now start working together and my friends from Graveland also come from Breslau , we work hard to gain some respect between poles and germans ...
Mario Pöhland There will be no more wars between us.We’re now too dependent on each other.
Polen ist Preussen
Thank you so much for making this. This absolutely has to be said.
Well researched Video!
LOVE your channel. thanks for all of this!
it's sad how people use atrocity to excuse further atrocity.
so true.
Interesting point of wiew. Basically I agre, but watch any western movie. Revenge is the ultimate justice.
bleh - consider such TWO situations in occupied Poland of WW2:
1. in 1939 German Nazists created so called General Gouvernement which in first time was NOT to include city of Lodz,
fairly Polish-Jewish city at the time with just minor German population.
Lodz NEVER was part of 'Deutsch Vaterland'
so it's understandable.
However local Lodz Germans INSISTED on detaching Lodz from GG and putting it to territory of Wartheland which was destined for total Germanization.
Those volksdeutsches had collaborated with Nazists in expulsion of local Polish people for they could OWN those Polish homes, farms etc.
Even today in Poland the word 'volksdeutsch' is very insulting word for
'f*cking s*n-of-be*ches,
who are aspiring to be Germans, but use criminal methods against Polish'.
2. German minority in Poland was widely used by Nazists even before WW2 - similarly was in Czechia.
Those Germans, sometimes even pretending to be Polish (just to fool Polish administration),
gathered proscription lists of important local Polish patriots, policemen etc. -
- those Polish people WERE MURDERED in first days of WW2 after German Nazists invaded.
Additionally, German minority in Poland was widely used by Nazists for inteligence purposes, partizan fighting against Polish army, police etc.
So now, can you explain me how it was possible for Poland, Czechia, Russia etc. to keep such ILLOYAL German minority in own territories???
So true, it's disgusting.
Ratatosk, why don't you grow a pair and say what's really on your mind.
Greetings from Hungary! Many people with German ancestry are still living here, including my family. :)
Szervusz :)
You guys were lucky, my grandmother and her family were on the Yugoslav side of the border and got locked into camps for a few years before they managed to get to the US
moinsen
They all should be expelled. Nazi crap.
@@tompeled6193 your a nazi
I learned a lot! Thank you!
Thanks for your hard work! Appreciate it
My grandmother’s family was Volga German. The parts of our family that stayed in Russia, rather than coming to the US before WWI, was forcibly exiled to Kazakhstan during WW2. The few members of the family that survived WW2 have attempted to return to the original village that our family originally came from in the 1990s.
I am full ethnic German, and you have my full sympathies - what the poles committed against millions of Germans is just too despicable! They murdered my Mother's friend's father, and two of my uncle's and their families, were expelled at gun point from West Prussia - so was our friend, Norbert - they stole his family home, land, and greenhouses, and murdered his father! Long live the Prussians, and long live the German peoples!
@@lottivonhesse9382 you murdered many mother's friends' fathers,germans,trying to sound like victims
@@lottivonhesse9382one day amigo. One day.
@@lottivonhesse9382 Deal with turks and arabs in your own homeland first.
@@lottivonhesse9382 now the right wing is coming back to live in germany. I’ve seen some news in Poland trying to polarise the society that Germany want silesia becouse we stole it from them. I personaly think that we all did some nasty things which we shouldnt forgot both Russia, Prussia, Austria and Poland.
Do you think that it will escalate eventualy with all this propaganda and building everyone against each other to something more than just hate in near future?
Hey Masaman, I thank you greatly for addressing this topic. I partly have ancestry from Pomerania and the Warthegau. My grandfather and his mother were expelled from Pomerania after the Second World War as he was still a child. This topic is rarely really discussed in our schools in Germany. Even though I am in Germany, we rarely hear our side of the story in history lessons in school. I think that it is very sad, that there is so much silence about this topic. We also are not allowed to have a other view on these and other historic events. The Germans in the Eastern Territories where there over 700 years and intermarried with the local Slavic populations. 23andme identified a sixth of my DNA as Eastern European.
As for polish territories you can discuss it but if you you want to do it properly you need to show the whole picture. And this picture is super depressing for germans and maybe that is why it is omitted. From 800s new settler waves of germans pushed east often with untolerant, discriminative policies. You can read contemporary german sources to get an image of systematic bias against polabians and poles for centuries even under polish sovereign rule. How did your ancestors came to warthegau (you use nazi name for the region), a territory predominantly polish in 18th century? 19th century was a continuous period of land expulsion, disowning, cultural discrimination and resettling of poor german tenants from the german interior onto polish land. This division you created cost you territory, millions of dead compatriots and a immense hatred of eastern europeans. You don't teach this in schools because your imaginative candy sweet stories of peaceful germans in the east has got 0% validity and everyone can find proof easily. So you choose to forget it
@Ateistyczna Prawica : It is a lot different here in Germany than it is in Poland you know. You have history books with a Polish point of view, where you defend what you do think is right and try to let your people look the best way possible, which also is the normal way to portray your own nation in a healthy country. We in Germany on the other side only have self hating history books, which only show our bad sides and nearly never show the wrongdoings we had to endure ourselves. It is also forbidden to defend some parts of our history in our own country, which leads one to think, why it is that way. I can't write it here, but I think a lot of people will know what I mean. There are similiar situations in the US right now. I know how cruel it was bringing christianity to the Slavic world, but we had the same happening to us before. Charlemagne slaughtered 4000 Saxons in one day in Verden in the name of Christendom, because they did not want to convert. It is not a Nazi name, don't approach me with such nonsense we already have enough of in Germany. It is a German name for it, it means landscape near the Warta. My Pomeranian ancestors lived there for centurys and also had names that clearly sounded slavic, especially the Kashubian ancestors had them. My ancestors from the Warthegau were requested from the Polish government as Hauländer to make the land arable in what is now Wielkopolski. You may know some towns with the a part of their name beeing holendry, this is a remnant of the history of those towns and villages. They did intermarry with Poles and through them I have some distant Polish ancestors, too. My greatgrandfather and his brothers from there first had to fight for the Poles and after that for Germany. He even spoke Polish and German. His brothers both fell in Russia and he survived. What you are writing there is not true and you also seem to have no clue how a German history book looks like.
@Ateistyczna Prawica
We are here to learn. The best way is by cleaning your own house first, which you should acknowledge Beauregard did. My ethnic Polish ancestors had property confiscated by Soviet officials after WWII. Decades later the Soviets were "kicked out", but rather than embracing capitalism the replacement was domestic socialism. Back during WWII Sweden, my country of birth, was highly supportive of the Nazi regime and persecuted those that would criticize it. Indeed this fact is hidden from public education to this day. We all have skeletons in our closet. I'm glad that today the Polish people are woken up to the silent occupation by Muslims and are setting an example for the rest of Europe. You on the other hand seem more interested in demonizing your peaceful neighbor who has payed reparations to you for the last 70+ years.
Poles remember what the HRE did to our brethren tribes, Polabians and Sorbians, on modern day German soil. You took over their settlements and replaced them with Germans, yet the Slavic toponyms are still there. Did you know that Berlin comes from Slavic birl/barl, which means Swamp? Sorbians still exist but their number is dwindling because they're forced to assimilate into German society. Polabian was spoken until the 18th century in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.
On the other hand, Polish kings invited German settlers to help build cities because the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was a multi-ethnic state and very liberal and tolerant at a time were most countries in Europe weren't. We simply could not afford to be racist. We still even have our own native Muslim population, the Lipka Tatars but they are a part of our society because they were always loyal to us. Some of our nobles came originally from Lithuania or Ruthenia like Radziwiłł or Potocki. Even German settlers assimilated into our society. But the partitions forced us to become xenophobic.
The Polish-German started to deteriorate when the PLC was partitioned. Prussia pursued very racist policies against Polish (or other Slavic tribes like Kashubians) or anything non-German with the "Kulturkampf" by expelling them and replace them with Germans, forbade to speak Polish in schools and other institutions by law and that way some became "Germans" over the centuries even if they ethnically aren't Germanic. WW2 was just the icing on the cake. Austria, despite being also German-speaking, were much more tolerant in comparison to Prussia, which is why most Poles don't hate Austrians.
Germans nationalist have a hard time to accept or embrace their non-Germanic roots. They don't want to accept that even their capital was originally Slavic or other cities in East Germany that end with -nitz, -itz, -ow and -in. I have nothing against Germans but I'm pissed when they say "Wrocław (Breslau) was always a German city!" which is simply not true. That's like saying Istanbul was always a Turkish city!
@Slüwonsťě Ťėnąʒ And Gdansk used to have a German name, Danzig. So what?
Great video (most of what you said applied to my ancestors). I am a descendant of Germans who came from southern Germany to the Volga during the reign of Catherine the Great... in WW2 they were sent to Kazakhstan. I am also a descendant of Koreans who were deported by the soviets to Kazakhstan around that time. Most of my family moved back to Germany after the fall of the Soviet Union... many other germans in Kazakhstan did the same.
Were you born in Kazakhstan? Were your parents born in Kazakhstan? Are you half German half Korean?
My mother's family is Prussian. They remember when they were pushed from the Volga river and forced to migrate to the United States. I was thrilled to find this video it really helped me understand the gaps my ancestors could never provide me insight with. Thank you very much for telling her story. Almost brought tears to my eyes.
fuck Prussia
It's mindblowing how Germans were so completely removed from Eastern europe
They have been peaceful joining eastern europe since Polish kings decided to increase population in XIII century .. but since they turned hostile sińce XV century with teuton knights then prussia they must be removed from that territory with force
Karma is a bitch.
Not to mention that Poland will never be threatened now.
Ethnic Germans in Central Europe overwhelmingly supported Hitler and committed crimes against Slavic and Jewish populations during WW2. In Czechoslovakia and Danzig Nazis were getting more than 50% of German vote. I think in Czechoslovakia it was 75%. There was also a forced Germanization of Slavs for centuries.
And now they are being removed from Germany
It's Genocide.
*sniff sniff* Prussia
*Cries in ethnic cleansing
Original Prussians were not German but Baltic
Y-you good bro..?
**BECAUSE I AIN'T**
@Robert B. Shut your mouth. Goths came around the 200s before migrating south. First they came from Scandinavia.
@Robert B. No. Most historians know that their exact origins are hard to pinpoint. However, it is believed they originated with the Geats, moved from there to Gothiscandza in now northern Poland, and then proceeded to move on toward Roman territories. The point is that regardless, they have nothing to do with ancient Prussians, who were Baltic tribes!
You Germans complain about Poles "stealing" things yet then do the same to everyone else. Goths are overrated anyway.
Slavs had a much more significant migration history. Read Procopius.
Thank you for sharing that tidbit though. Nice to know that some sad boomer loser has nothing better to do than whine like a sad cunt.
"The unfortunate ethnic cleansing of the Germans from central and eastern Europe!". I appreciate that you mentioned that, I love your channel...please keep doing the work that you do.
We, Poles, see it as very fortunate. The truth is that a thousand years ago Germany didn't even have "east Germany", which was a land of western Slavs. Germany later on conquered and germanized those Slavic tribes that used to live there. There are still remnants of the Serbołużyczanie that speak their Slavic language. Germans still owe Slavs a bunch of land, Stalin reclaimed only half of it.
@@jancyraniak4739 there is a very rich history of german/slavic conflict...as far as poles are concerned...id say this: ww2 was started because poland was invaded by Germany. Poland had existed for 21 years at that point...previously Germany for hundreds of years, honestly...thousand year claims to land sound biblical...and ridiculous...the people living in the region now called Poland were German mostly,l...until they were ethnically cleansed, but hey I'm glad Poland got their nation back, its just unfortunate that they sold out their best ally in Germany to do so. Isnt it funny how Poland a slavic state...was conquered by a Russian led military coalition and 80% of the polish Lithuanian commonwealth was absorbed by Russia...then about 100 years later Russia steps in to defend the sovereignty of Serbia because "we are the great protectors of the slavic race!"....meanwhile Poland lol...this is what historical whitewashed propaganda looks like!
@@ericgulick2749 "Poland had existed for 21 years at that point...previously Germany for hundreds of years"
Not exactly. Kingdom of Poland existed the entire time in personal union with the Russian Empire. Also, that part of Poland that had been during the partitions taken by Prussia, including Greater Poland, was Prussian for only about 120 years, while the Slavic Pomerania and Silesia have been in German hands for ~800 years.
"I'm glad Poland got their nation back, its just unfortunate that they sold out their best ally in Germany to do so."
You mean 1918? Not sure what you mean by "ally", as Piłsudski tried to cooperate with Germans but they proved to be too controlling for his taste, which just showed him there is no good will on their part (they jailed him for not wanting to swear obedience to Kaiser). Not sure either what you mean by "sold", Germans wanted to keep Wielkopolska, the Greater Poland, which is where Polish nationality began. That's why we made an uprising in 1918 to be included in the rest of reborn Poland, my great grandfather fought in it.
"Isnt it funny how Poland a slavic state...was conquered by a Russian led military coalition"
...that included Prussia, which basically means nowadays Germany. Germany was not an ally to us, but an occupier.
"then about 100 years later Russia steps in to defend the sovereignty of Serbia because "we are the great protectors of the slavic race!"....meanwhile Poland lol..."
Meanwhile Piłsudski's Poles fought alongside the German and Austro-Hungarian armies against the Russians, what lol? They promised us a sovereign state after the war, but during it we realised that it was an empty promise.
Not like the British and French care more about us, but at least they are far away and can't exploit us.
@@jancyraniak4739 all fair points to be sure! When I say sold out the germans I mean very clearly this: 1 nation was willing to give up territory for a free an independent poland...nomatter how independent it actually was...Germany made it out of german soil in 1916, by 1918...Poland signed a deal with France and great Brittain that gave roughly 40 to 50% of german territory pre 1914 to Poland! Hadnt been on a map in 130ish years?!? Then what do the poles do in 1919? Start ethnically cleansing germans from 40% of their previous territory. Yeah...no $hi# conflict broke out between those 2 nations by 1939! Poland is not blameless, nor is the USSR, of course Germany is as well but they already get 99% of the blame...nothing new to talk about there.
I've heard the forest slaughtering of polish officers was carried out by the soviets and blamed on the germans, any truth to that? I have no idea but its interesting
Ww2 started as a border war, Germany wanted to reunify after being carved up and passed around like an apple pie in 1918. Poland was the biggest benefactor of Germanys defeat in 1918...and they were on the same team! Isnt that odd? I understand german Poland and post war Poland are 2 different things...im trying to point that specific thing out.
@@ericgulick2749 Wait, are you blaming us for kicking out invaders? Don't you know how hard Germany tried to colonize and germanize Polish lands that it took in the partitions? It was hell. Germans asked for resistance. Wonder why there is no such dislike in Poland towards Austrians? I'll tell you why: because they let Poles in their partition have Polish schools and Polish culture, that's why. Till now we remember the Austrian occupiers as benevolent, while German ones as tyrants.
Yes, Katyń massacre was done by Soviets, discovered by Germans and blamed on the Germans by Soviets. Poles knew the truth all along, we never blamed Germans (except our commie government, but even they knew the truth).
"Poland was the biggest benefactor of Germanys defeat in 1918...and they were on the same team!"
Then it shouldn't bother Germans that their friends retreived from them the lands that Germans immoraly occupied :) Germans carved up Poland and then they got offended when Poland recreated herself from those carved-up lands? Yes, that's German attitude. The victim is guilty, because of trying to stand up xD
Btw. just the same it should not bother us Poles that Lithuanians got Vilnius and Ukrainians got Lviv. Yet there are those in our nations who do. There are Germans who long for Polish lands of Pomerania and Silesia and there are Poles who long for Lithuanian and Ukrainian lands. All of it is a relic of both Germany and Poland pushing eastwards for centuries. Thank God Stalin pushed us closer to starting positions.
Mason; 1st time watching‼️ Great.. moves along, the maps are very very helpful. Just followed. Good topice & well presented. 👏👏👏
Some of my ancestors came from Oppeln (upper silesia) as well as Königsberg. I always wonder what happend if the Nazis never came to power and the Weimar Republik never disbanded. I hope i can visit the old home some time in the future. I really thank you for treating this topic neutally. I know for most people wich know about the theme it is difficult to talk about it especially east europeans.
@peter schwarz propably not resistance from the reichswehr and alt right groups would be big
It's Opole and Kaliningrad. Stop using Nazi names for occupied territories.
@@tompeled6193 "nazi name" lmao.
@@tompeled6193 dude what ?
@@tompeled6193 nazi names?
There was quite a large community of Saxon merchants and craftsmen here in Romania. Most of them fled for West Germany during the cold war, but one of the remaining Saxons became president of Romania in 2014 and is still President, and I must say that he does an excellent job.
@tiglath pileser
His ethnicity is German, not nationality. He was born in Romania, raised in Romania and when 99% of Romanian Germans decided to leave Romania for Germany he decided to stay.
@tiglath pileser
We elected him for what was inside of his head. I don't why we should've cared that his grand-grand--grand-grand-grand-grand-grandfather came in these lands from Saxony.
@tiglath pileser
The fact that he chose to stay here when 99% of Germans decided to leave speaks for itself. And btw, from where did you got that conspiracy theory ?
@tiglath pileser
The Transylvanian Saxons for example didn't allied with the Nazis. And btw, Klaus' actions as president speak for himself. If you want I can introduce you to Romanian politics and then you can make a image of our president, but I warn you, it will be a long ride. The Romanian politics are some of world's most complicated.
@tiglath pileser are you a bot?
The Eastern Germans who went to *Australia* did well. They built the Australian wine industry.
Oh, yeah. Germans came out to Australia post-war. I knew a kid in school for some brief time, a couple of years late primary, maybe into secondary, also, who was of a specifically German extraction. First name Herbie. Nice kid, not in my year. Close to being first through 2nd generation. One of the Wanda Beach victims - poor thing - 1st through 2nd generation German. But, all that being said, it was a real hellava lot more Italians, and Greeks, and Poles, even Indians, and others from wierd places which I couldn't specify.
Very interesting videos and excellent and informative comments from your well informed subscribers
Hey loyal subscribers! Thank you all so much for sticking with me during my absence. I gotta say last month was not a good month for me due to a lot of factors, but thanks to encouragement from my viewers, I am back in the game. Don't worry, I'm not running out of video topics anytime soon, this was mostly due to personal problems. Be sure to let me know your thoughts on the old German communities of Eastern Europe and answer today's poll. Thanks for watching!
Masaman Thanks for being dedicated to your work and audience. Adversity is a nuisance but I am glad that you are still on the surface of things.
It is fine mason your videos worth waiting
I am always with you, since day I found you.
You used the phrase "third column" to denote a group of people that could not be trusted to be loyal to their country of residence. This is incorrect. The correct phrase is "fifth column".
Make a video about the spaniards from the inquisition to 1820s expulsions from hispanicamerica
thank you for talking about this topic, it is pretty important for me, as half of my family were expelled from their former homelands, they lived in for houndreds of years, after the second world war. Here in germany, this topic is rarely talked about, even though many germans (about half the gemans i know) have ancestors from these places.
Max Zombrex wait, do you know why they were expelled? Have you heard about Hitler or Holocaust? When you loose the war it means you loose. Should not have started the war which killed 6 mln Poles and destroyed half of country.
@@volkhen0 dude calm down, obviously i know about the holocaust and the 2. ww, still this is no justification to expell millions of innocents from their homes. One bad thing don't justifies another evil.
Marissz: the entire German educational system is a holocaust industry promotor and has been for generations. You don't know that? You know why millions of Poles were expelled by the Soviets? Then there was the Katyn incident...
@@MaxS1871 No German was innocent. None. So this lot paid. GOOD. Germans didn't really pay the price of their crimes.
@@patriciabrenner9216 Sure if you say so, i am glad to know that saints like you exist to fairly judge millions of people.
Masaman, thanks for making the video. I always find your videos very informative. I've been waiting for a video on Baltic Germans, since my father's family were such. They were displaced from Latvia in 1939, like the majority. 6 years in the Warthegau followed, before entering now East Germany shortly before the end of the war. I find the history of Baltic Germans interesting. This video mentions them a few times, but it will have to do. Not much to say to make an entire video out of it.
Ukrainian German. We downed a ranch outside of Kyiv from 1638 to 1923 when my family moved to Lviv. My family split off in the 30s. Some went back to Germany in 1939 and some (because they wr Mennonites and therefore usually pacifist) stayed put. The ones who stayed put wr part of the post war Soviet genocides of the volksdeutche...there a mass grave in Ternopil where maybe 500 lay...but however this is in the past...and now actually a lot of families (myself included) are returning to Ukraine
How could you know all these things?
@@Soul-co7ki Families share stories, good sir.
Mine were from Crimea and Kherson, hello fellow Ukrainian German!
Oh my god! The way you pronounced Vojvodina! It killed me from the inside
Will u continue the blitzkrieg series?
@Mysterious Stranger He is Bulgarian, so am I. We say it like "Voivodina"/"Voĭvodina" the pronounciation is the same. I guess the name of the state comes from the word ''voevoda" (that's how we say it in Bulgaria) but if you are Serbian you might be saying it "vojevoda" we just removed the ''j''.
In serbian we say Voyvodina, he might have used the Hungarian pronunciation
@@oaka5639 Vajdasag in Hungarian
Try and pronounce “Scheveningen”.
the british queen's family stems from germany aswell, just sayin'
They're german jews you dumb
@@robertrobski1013I didn't know the Hannoverians intermarried with their jewish population, I mean the jews did that with many german aristocratic families (guess they were broke and needed some dough) but can you give me a source that of all these families the Hannoverians were part of that too?
If you can be bothered to put in the correct possessive apostrophe, the one denoting the missing 'g' and to beak the sentence into two clauses, why not do it properly in the first place? You obviously know how to do it correctly!
Fuk this on food crisis betting goldmansachs queen , bettter to loose Rheincastel to the fanks than to the brits xD
Yes, it was the Electorate of Hanover or Brunswick-Luneburg it is lower Saxony, it seems according to his map the British after World War II regained lower Saxony for awhile.
the thumbnail gives Germans WAY too big a prescence in Poland for example, it shows the entire "Corridor" was German which simply wasnt true, the corridor was mostly Polish, and it over estimates them in most of the rest of the country, i wouldnt mind it if it was for something else but it gives a false impression for people like nazi's or German ultranationalists who claim that they were just "retaking their rightful land"
I think you don't know what a nazi is
@@longlivepoland6400 i fixed it and changed it to nazi's or German ultranationalists
Look closely: The region is coloured in a light shade of red, noting that the region wasn‘t entirely German.
P.S.: Nationalism is probably the rarest political ideology here in Germany (thank god!).
@@scanida5070 he also colored areas that were majority German back then (eg east Prussia) that colour, so it’s still misleading
Millions of Eastern Germans have Slavic roots. Slavs lived in areas as far as Hamburg and Leipzig, and even Berlin has a Slavic history. Millions of Czechs, Sorbs and Poles were Germanized during centuries of German rule.
Even Eastern Bavaria has heavy slavic population, which was germanised over the centuries. It’s called Bavaria Slavica I believe.
That was waaaaay back in medieval times, Ivan. Wanna talk about the early germanic tribes like the vandals who resided in the area of Krakow way before the slavs settled there? 😂😂
@@anonymous-hz2un I'd rather talk about why most German towns have names of Slavic or Gallic origin.
@@buoazej nobody cares. Half of your country was german territory stolen away and given to you by Stalin. No amount of mental gymnastics will change that. Get over it 😉
@@anonymous-hz2unSure let's talk😂.
The Vandals that you just mentioned weren't only Germans Lmfao, Vandals same like many other groups/tribes were combined/mixed of various ethnicities. For example the Goths had Slavic people amongs them, the Vandals also very likely have had various non Germanic tribes amongst them. Remember that cultures like the Lusathian culture and Pomeranian culture are Slavic cultures that must've had an ancestoe native to the lands. In short Slavs always inhabited the Slavic lands of East Germany and Central/Eastern Europe wheter you want to admit it or not. Heck even the Scandinavian ethnonym for us "Vinden" means friend meaning that we must've lived here for quite a long time since otherwise why would oue northern neighbours call/consider us their friends?
You pronounced vojvodina wrong. It's voy-vo-dina
A dobro ne priča srpski
LOL fuck off racist punk
Sorry but how can expect him to pronunce that crap correctly.
Im not a native speaker of English my native language is dutch i can't pronunce the word thought correctly i have recently challenged my self to learn all major languages in the world i started with romance languages and i can already understand Spanish Portuguese and italian and Romanian after 1 year but then i tried Russian and it was fucked up its going to take over 10 years to learn that its almost as different from dutch as Chinese.
@betarage
Are you kidding? Russian is the easiest slavic language.
Thank you very much for making this video and spreading information about these peoples fate.
Great video. Subscribed! I have German Hungarian heritage, with a great great grandfather coming to the USA in the late 1800s I think it was around 1890. I found some documents online. In his immigration card he put "Austrian Empire" as his place of origin.
Incredibly interesting subject. I'm doing some family tree work and I'm discovering some of my, I think, Silesian, specifically ethnically German roots. My grandmother spoke a 'low'-German dialect according to my Dad so I'm trying to connect the dots. She immigrated to the US pre-WW1 but she is not my only ancestor from that area. In trying to connect the dots of a lost and veiled history, if you have an interest in Silesia then I'd love to see a video on this region in the future. I'd also love to view the rest of the content from this video before it was gobbled up by ########'s. Sorry about that. Ouch:( Anyhoo - Thank you again for your super-interesting content. BK:)
Hi Masaman! Great Video! A minor note, before the second world war Tyrolans who were ethnic German were asked by a bipartisan Italiab and German agreement if they would prefer to leave and resettle in German lands or remain. 86% left. After the war many who for example resettled in Prussia or Other newly conquered lands came back to Tyrol ( not everyone tho).
My German ancestors lived in Ukraine near Odessa and near the Ukraine-Romanian border and spoke their own dialect of German. My dad said his parents would speak German to each other about Christmas presents and such but their German was different from the German people in Germany spoke. It was a “southern” German dialect apparently. Im from ND and many if not most people there are descendants of “Germans from Russia.” Thankfully my family left Russia (Ukraine) in the late 1800s before the wars.
It was probably Swobisch, which is a German dialect.
Most people don't want to know our stories.
@@dieterbarkhoff1328 how strange ,did something happen around the 30s ans 40s by any chance?
You say many in ND are Germans from Russia. What is ND? Greetings from Austria (they also speak German here).
@@isaakasimov2456 north dakota i guess 90%
Interesting video. Thank you.
My two grandmothers are from East Prussia, that part is now Poland and my grandfather was a Baltic german, who was born in Riga, Latvia
In Poland you can find two types of Germans -
1. Germans which eventually assimilated to Polishness - eg. village of Wilamowice;
2. Germanized Slavic people - mainly in Opole voivodshop;
The Opole Germans are especially interesting for their grandparents were Polish-speaking citizens of Germany -
- and it was why they were left quite intact by Soviet and Polish armies in 1945.
However in communist Poland they found that capitalistic Western Germany offer better material life,
so they started to name themselves "Germans", basing on their ancestors' German citizenship.
Anyway most of those Opole region 'German' councillors have Slavic surnames (fairly germanized however),
so it begs laughter upon fate of 'Germanness' in modern Poland.
Wilamowice settlers came from the Netherlands .
Tadeusz Karcz - :-) anyway, there are many toponyms of German origin there in mountainious areas as Limanowa, Szaflary etc.
Wilamowice is in the Silesian section, Limanowa and Szaflary are in Podhale, what is the connection? I also wasn't aware that those two towns had German toponyms, although I'm living in the US now in the typical Goral diaspora area *cough* Illinois. Family is from Ludzmierz. From what I learned German influence in Podhale is actually very minor. It's mainly Polish with strong Wlach influence from medieval migrations that lead to shepherding profession.
User - Wilamowice are in historical region of Lesser Poland;
Modern Polish voivodships are often only barely matching those historical regions.
Anyway, Wilamowice and Podhale are today one of the most Polish places in Poland,
however some toponyms suggest rather Germanic immigration in one point of history.
I am not much aware what toponyms are really German except few cases -
- anyway the toponym 'Wilamowice' IS VERY Polish toponym with suffix '-owice' being very typical pathronimic suffix in Slavic countries.
And non-Slavic names are very common in Poland even today;
eg. in my family you can find names of Latin, German, Jewish, Slavic, Greek etc. origin.
- only issue which connects the names is that all of them ARE used in Catholic calendar of saint people or in other way are connected to western Christiandom.
Didn't know that about Opole Germans. I've always assumed they were some hardcore Germans who wanted to stay, it never really occured to me that hey were just let to stay because of their "Polishness"/"Slavicness". Claims to Opole region before WW2 weren't so unfounded after all.
Very interesting, thank you for sharing this valuable research. Some of the map keys were a little out of focus, but I found the ethnic maps fascinating. Please, when discussing a historical figure, some dates would help. Learned a lot about German migrations. Its been alleged that a large German community exists underneath the snow in Antarctica, since the days following WWII. Do you agree?
Both sides of my mother's family were Volhynian Germans, whose families lived in Northwestern Ukraine before they got deported to East Germany in the late 1940s. I appreciate you making this video, as the history of Eastern Germans is not well-known in the states, so I always find it difficult to explain to my fellow Americans.
Most interesting, Thank You!
So maybe you should add a video about ethnic slavic regions in Germany as well...
Right
Like?
Are you talking about the Sorbs in Lusatia? Because apart from that there aren't any.
*In the Federal Republic of Germany that is
@@naturlicheweltordnung2609 The polabian slavs in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Brandenburg, the Sorbs in Sachsen and Brandenburg. They are all slavs.
The Romanian royal house is German. But not the nobility. The nobility was Romanian, Hungarian, Greek.
Correct!
@King Of ELLADA only German
@King Of ELLADA Queen Elena had as much Greek blood as Michael I had Romanian: 100% German-Danish-Russian
@King Of ELLADA Phanariotes were not kings, nor did Romania exist back then. Kings begin with Charles I
@King Of ELLADA Romanovs are mot Greeks. Thei'r last Greek ancestors were in the 13th century, and trough German houses.
I love your videos. Thank you.
Here we are ..still breath in Vojvodina and Belgrade . We have few organizations , try to not forget german language ...greetings to you and for all my fellow brothers and sisters .
I'm interested in the German population of South Tyrol.
They're still alive and well, and they have autonomy from the Italians. Bolzano, the capital of South Tyrol, is mostly known as Bozen, its German name.
@tiglath pileser. And that was.....? Please let us know!
@tiglath pileser It wasn't and isn't a shame. Stalin was a murderous tyrant, and Benes was a Germanophobic communist sympathiser.
@tiglath pileser Benes was a left-leaning politician. The coat of arms of his political party even resembled the communist hammer and sickle. I will admit that he wasn't really a communist. I never even said he was. Communist sympathiser does not equate to being a communist.
And now I understand who you really are. A neo-Stalinist who thinks that torture, mass murder, deportation, and conquest are heroic. You're just as bad as a neo-Nazi. Stalin had no sympathy at all for humanity. He even said so himself. And besides, you really have to get rid of that stupid collective punishment/revenge mentality that's pretty rampant amongst Czechs and other related ethnic groups.
Deportation/expulsion does not create peace. By that logic, Generalplan Ost would have created peace if it had happened. The only reason there was even any form of "peace" in Central and Eastern Europe is because Stalin installed various puppet governments in the territories occupied by the Red Army, which were forced to unite and be subservient to their Soviet overlords. And the Eastern Bloc was a political war zone for its people, which wanted to be free from Soviet domination. Yugoslavia is proof that war can still happen. The German ethnic boundaries were definitely nowhere near as messy as the Yugoslav ones.
The Soviets were not peaceful. Don't forget how they divided Poland up with the Nazis. And they actually kept their share after the war, pushing Poland westwards into German territory. That barely even makes any logical sense. That's why Stalin is to blame for this vile ethnic cleansing. He was a greedy and hypocritical imperialist.
You're using the term "colonisers". It's interesting how you have not mentioned Russia's rampant colonisation at all. And the Germans lived there for several centuries, far longer than the Russians have been living in Siberia. Even if the Germans (along with some other ethnic groups in other parts of Europe) were allowed to stay, there would still be peace. The United Nations had been formed after WWII to maintain international peace, and Germany had already realised the full horrors of the Nazi regime, with the concentration camps. Besides, the Nazis never even managed to get half of the vote in any free and fair German election, so not that many people supported their policies of mass extermination.
The Germans had lived there in peace for centuries before WWII, and the remaining minorities still live in peace. Deporting them for being a certain ethnicity doesn't sound that much different to the Holocaust, where people were killed for being a certain ethnolinguistic group. Most of them did not care too much for the Nazis, and some were even openly against them. The ethnic situation in the former Yugoslavia is much more of a real problem, where there are disputes everywhere. Meanwhile, the German ethnic area has always been more solid and neater. The only major territorial dispute was West Prussia, and even then, compromises were made between Germany and Poland (until the Nazis showed up, obviously).
@tiglath pileser Peace? Millions of Poles, Germans and other European were killed in the process and you are happy about it? Be ashamed, nobody regardless of heritage did deserve this.
Part of my ancestry is Transylvania-German. More specifically, Lutherans who migrated to New England before the American Revolution at least. I'm still trying to figure out what specific historical enclave we are from. Thank you very much for this video -- it was great timing.
Very well done ,thankyou.
7:10 I think the term your looking for is "Fifth column"
If you include Switzerland, you got to include the Netherlands and Flanders as well as Luxenburg.
Peter Mages the Dutch aren’t exactly ethnically german. However, the Swiss are.
@@JtAudio but there cultures are closly related and aren the french geneticly the same as germany?
Apophis40K then it becomes an issue of language, the Swiss speak Swiss German which is at least similar enough to understand it.
@@JtAudio well this is in general a realy gray area kind thing becaus the north german language (yes its considered a different language i do not know why) is much closer to dutch (they can speak with little problem to each other most of the time) then to swiss german, austrian german or bavarian. Becaus of the quiet diverce natior of germany (beeing a lot of different nation and all that) this kinda stuff is hard to tell. And culturely the czech are quiet similer the only realy hard border culturly is with france (beeing enemys for so long and that kinda thing)
Apophis40K I see. Thank you!
Glad you're back! Here are my regular batch of suggestions for topics:
1. Belgium (Flanders vs. Wallonia)
2. Anglo-Corsican Kingdom
3. Peoples of the Arctic Islands (aka. Who are the northernmost peoples in the world?)
4. What happened to the Scythians?
5. Sikhism and Punjab
6. Bhutan
7. Forgotten countries of the America's (Beyond Vermont, California, Texas, Hawaii, and the CSA), such as the Republic of Indian Stream, the
Republic of West Florida, etc. One possibility: what if they survived, and what would the populations be today if they were still around.
8. Rhode Island
9. Bermuda
10. Campione D'Italia-Italy's little known enclave in Switzerland
11. Best of de facto micronations: The fascinating stories of Sealand, Principality of Seborga, Kingdom of Minerva, Kingdom of Tavolara, etc.
12. Bir Tahwil-The last unclaimed territory on Earth today where you can still build a country. You could have a field day of scenarios with that one!
13. Kingdom of Dahomey and modern day Benin
14. The little known indigenous peoples of the Philippines
15. Guna people of Panama
16. Cornwall and Cornish Revival
17. Would like to re-emphasize: Zoroastranism, Sub-Antarctic Islands, Australian Paraguayans, Australian Aboriginals (include Tasmanian Aboriginals and Palawa Kani language revival) and Maori
18. Story of Franceville, Vanuatu
19. Yamana culture and Proto-Indo European language recreation
20. Pied-Noirs peoples: Then and Now
21. *Beyond the Roma: Yenish People, Irish Travelers, and lesser known itinerant peoples of the world
3.Eskimo people
4.Assimilated into Russian and Ukrainians .
@Antonio Perales del Hierro and so what ?
Excellent video and excellent narration.
Well done, Ben. A lot of info in a brief video. On another subject, why don't you back up your scripts on a key drive?
Can you do a video on Pre-Islamic Turkic peoples?
As an Arab I love to see that
Thank you bro
Yes pls this
Descendants of Genghis Khan
@Zantic Trant He never said Islam and it's effects, he said pre-Islamic Turkic peoples.
I am Czech, born in Czech, and I had a German great-grandmother. Her last name was Schinke. Third of my friends have German-sounding last name. The world is a mess, we have been migrating and intermixing for millennia.
I like watching your videos, Mamasan.
"we have been migrating and intermixing for millennia" - Yes, but not at the scale and speed of today. A German moving to the British Isles is not the same as a Somali moving there :)
@@theenlightenedatheist3953 What's wrong with Somal- oh yeah that's a reference to the great replacement well if you don't want Blacks to go to your country then how about you don't ruin their countries in the first place.
Germans built every town in what is now Czechia.
@@Occident.lmao they didn't.
By that standard Slabs built every city in today's east and central Germany - eg Berlin
@@tomasvrabec1845 They didn’t build any German City, because those Settlements weren’t Cities.
The points at 6:12 and 9:45 describe that side of my family perfectly! The map at 6:12, if you look closely in Ukraine, you can see Chortitza colony, which was inhabited by Prussian Mennonites. South of there was another Mennonite colony, Molotschna, and nearby there were also several Hutterite settlements. This area is where my ancestors lived before immigrating in the 1870s. Nowadays the Hutterites still live in colonies all over the place here in South Dakota. It’s cool to see that they where they came from. A portion came from Baden-Württemberg and Bavaria and began the group while a second joined after being exiled from Carinthian Austria, and the third joining after leaving the Mennonite group. I believe they speak Carinthian German (they call it “Hutterisch”) but also teach standard German and English in their schools. So closed off, yet so open to the communities around them. In all honesty, I think they’re pretty cool lol
Thanks for your video. It’s interesting. It’s a story that should be told, noting the errors pointed out by others.
Thanks for making a video about my people :)
Yeah skull face is not haveing the best time right now its been hard since his parents disowned him
@@WorldsMostWated who hurt you?
Awesome video, found out recently that on my father's side, my great great grandpa came from the German "boroughs" of Russia and came to the US before the on set of ww1.
Hi, technical note: it seems that sound is really imbalanced between left and right on your video. On my speakers this is very noticeable.
My grandfathers family are ethnic germans from the former eastern german provinces of Prussia, which is now part of modern day Poland. I believe my grandfathers grandmother was ethnically Polish. Her last name was Czerwinska and her parents were both Polish, and her husbands name was Arndt and he was ethically German.
I guess your Grandfather's Grandmother was a Masovian woman, ethnical Slavic-Polish and cultural-identitarian Prussian-German
Great video! I'd like to hear more about the Volga Germans. I had a good friend in Argentina whose family were Volga German - who emigrated to Argentina, South America. Germans are a major group here, where I live in the Midwest - my family is partly Swiss-German, Palatinate Germans, who came over here in the 1700's - first to the Lancaster, PA, area.
A lot of South Germans in PA!
My great-great grandparents came from Übermunjor just east of the large bend of the Volga upstream from Saratov and settled in western Kansas in the 1870s.
I emailed the Bishop of Saratov in 2011. He's also the Bishop of Munich. I asked him whether he knew of any records of the former German colonies in Russia. Unfortunately he said he didn't know. We suspected those records were destroyed by Stalin before or during WWII. I would like to learn more about the Volga Germans.
@@DerekWitt My ethnic German family (Danube Swabians) fled Romania in 1944. Recently, a friend of my husband, lent us a book entitled "Wir Wollen Deutsch Bleiben" (We Want to Stay German)The Story of the Volga Germans" by George J. Walters.. It was published in English by Halcyon House Publishers in 1982. It may be out of print. But hopefully, you can get a copy of it. It is a very good history of the Volga Germans. Our friend incidentally, was born in North Dakota to German parents who emigrated from Russia.
@@theresemallory2425 oh wow. I think I have heard about that book.Yeah, I know about many Volga Germans settling throughout the Plains. Hopefully I can find a copy of it down here.
There's a Volga German Historical Center in Victoria, Kansas (just a few miles east of hays).
Yo también soy descendiente de alemanes del Volga
¿De dónde sos?
My grandma was a german from silesia. After ww2 almost all her relatives moved to the Hannover area. She then moved to northern Sweden and married a swede.
I am so glade that she survived - half of the Germans trapped in Prussia, were mass murdered by the damn poles, and or, froze to death, etc. - I am happy for her.
@@lottivonhesse9382 perhaps if you folks were less belligerent this would not have happened
please take your head out of your ass
@@cleightorres3841 Oh yeah - you support the mass murder and torture of GERMAN children and their families! 3.5 million Prussian-Germans were mass murdered and evicted out of THEIR OWN LAND, HOMES, BUSINESSES, and FARMS and you want me to be so civilized about this MASS MURDER and TORTURE od MY GERMAN PEOPLES? ARE YOU CRAzY, or just another German-hatingpole, or slav? You make me want to vomit right on your FACE!
@@cleightorres3841 BTW - GO TO HELL - I hope YOU rot there - you scum!
@@lottivonhesse9382 You have such class Typical of a Slavic/Mongol mix trying to tell the world you are Scandinavian/Nordic/Aryan And the Germans DID start the war
You reap as you sow
ik the pain of lost data through word corruption very well :/ grats on getting your video out in the end , & a good one it is
I am partly descended of Germans from Ukraine, particularly from Volhynia. My ancestors emigrated to Paraguay, although they want to go to Canada where they have relatives. My dad moves to Argentina decades ago, and my other half (mother side) is slovakian and bulgarian. Nice mix I've in my blood. Nice video.
Such a crazy miz is not very nice imo. Your grbes are dilluted. I hope you can still feel the Gods
@@Aemond2024 Lmao, what gods?
Great video about a forgotten topic. Little is known that after WWII aproximately 700.000 Germans lived in Romania. Some of them managed to leave to West-Germany in the 60's. In the 70's and in specialy 80's most of them left Romania and the German governement payed for the Romanian governement between 5K and 15K Deutsch Mark for each individual to be left to leave. This has been documented and researched recently by hystorians. The current president of Romania is Klaus Johannis, German Saxon.
60% of that died in WW2 and were fleeing by 1948. Most of them left before 1946
My grandma is from East Prussia. ^^
From "Allenstein" - now "Olsztyn" to be exact. I'm very mixed because she has some Polish ancestors and well... my father is from Africa. :D
@@Miningfox You're a "Heinz 57," like so much of the world population.
@@Miningfox Lovely! 🖤
Miningfox Western Poland*
My family tree is from Prussia. And I live in Finland. Funny I guess.
My mother was one of those expelled Germans .
I'm born in Canada.
great and fair analysis
Germans in western Europe are much more integrated. For instance, being from Alsace, my family's blood is entirely german yet we consider ourselves a French family.
Many Germans did come to consider themselves Polish and fought on our side in 1939. A quarter of my high school class had German surnames, all of them being 100% Polish, it was funny.
I thought in communism was everybody was equal?
Equally fucked, you mean.
My grandfather came from a well todo Prussian family from the Königsberg area. During the war he was stationed in Norway, where he met and married my grandmother. After the war, he was never allowed to return home as the soviets stole East Prussia and evicted the entire German population. My remaining family was robbed of all their possessions and shot or forced west into the remnants of what was left after the allies carved up Germany.
This must also be seen in terms of the "disappearance" (Germanization) of the Western Slavs. Sorbs (the only ones that exist today), Pomeranians (in Slavic: "they live next to the sea"), Veleti and others. Approximately the entire territory of the GDR was home to those peoples who, for centuries from the year 900 onwards, were slowly and systematically transformed into Germans...
Czechs, Poles and Slovaks should be "central Slavs"
Many slavs also left the now german lands after the battle on the Raxxa