This fixed me. 2 years of pain, 2 MD’s, chiropractor, massage and physical therapist. No relief. I have been doing this for 4 days and 90% of pain is gone. These guys are outstanding.
Holy crap I am constantly amazed at your knowledge. Every time I follow your lead the pain disappears. I think that I have all kinds of injuries or issues that I live with and don't know how to fix. And neither does anyone else! I think you both must have had high grades in school because you are so good at what you do. Thank you.
My doc recommended an mri to check tear and pt to fix. I said I will consult B&B first. So glad I have. No need for trips to pt. I’ll be doing what these guys recommend. They never steer us wrong. ❤️❤️
Wow so refreshing to hear solutions and treatment that aren’t surgery. I have a slight tear but my bicep is a bit higher than normal. Thanks for the techniques
OMG !! Thank you so much... My chiropractor checked my pain out yesterday and told me it was the bicipital tendinitis so I started looking for some treatment, and your video has helped me already. Especially the cross tendon massage.
I typically do not comment on RUclips but I have to with you guys you are both absolutely amazing and have helped me out with several problems since I started lifting weights again and I greatly appreciate it
I’m so happy I found this channel. Idk if u 2 are still doing this. But thank u. I’ve been struggle with injuries for awhile and my bicep was the main issue
Bob an Brad, this is one of several videos which were the BEST treatment for arm pain I have been suffering for months! You are losing money by giving fee advice. But not really as if you had an office, I'd go visit you anyways. I',m commenting on all which helped me.
My PT diagnosed me with bicep tendonitis late last year and it acts up every month or two just like you described. Will try the Cross-fiber massage hopefully that helps it heal better. Thanks again
These two guys have helped me get rid of so many pains from exercise or other physical related issues. My left arm was becoming useless from the aching I had and these guys show me one stupid spot to massage on my arm and a couple hours later the pain is pretty much non-existent.
So many articles on this injury and as always Bob and Brad have the best and most practical solutions. Just wonderful, thanks so much for doing these videos!
Dear Bob and Brad, my husband I go to you here for everything and are so grateful for your generous videos, they have helped us over the years. My husband tore something this morning at work, the bicep definitely looks like the popeye type now. sounds like a proximinal tear...He's at the Dr right now, just want to know how you guys deal with those. Thankyou
I swear to god i did this on my right biceps, where it inserts in the front of the shoulder in the glenoid, robbing across the muscle fiber as they said in the video. First 2 days i did it the area was really sore and i felt it. 2-3 weeks later i tried it and i felt NOTHING. It's insane! This really works thanks guys!!
Just wanted to say thank you so much for your channel!! I do martial arts and am very active. I have had some injuries, and just having more information about my body has been really empowering and I have been able to take care of my body better. Of course, it doesn’t replace seeing a doctor, but knowledge is power!
You ever find anything good on this? I have really bad pain at my elbow joint / low bicep when doing the test they do in this video no pain at the top of my shoulder… this is killing me I don’t know what to do :(
I was somewhat skeptical about this but I was in lots of pain. I cut out all exercises, iced 3 times a day and massaged my shoulder and bicep as demonstrated above. After 2 weeks, I switched to heat and kept massaging. After 5 weeks, my shoulder and bicep were pain free and I started light stretching and exercising. At 7 weeks, I am almost back to full strength. Thank you, guys, this really did the trick for me.
Just as Sophomore :D said below, that's going to be the hardest part for me if I commit to doing this - not working out! My biceps tendon on my left shoulder has been killing me for just about 2-3 years. It started right after I had biceps tenodesis surgery on my right shoulder. All MRIs came back negative for any tears on my left shoulder though. I've already gone through physical therapy but no dice. Medication doesn't work and I notice that lifting does often irritate it more. Maybe the key is COMPLETE rest for a little while. This may be my last resort...
@@kzuik1 i think i got the same ,well my muscular bulge bit where the acromion lies it impinges pain when i bench or do overhead press of any kind, massaging the deep tissue for 3 mins twice a day really helped me helps break down the damage tissue and reform itself properly
@@dawg4769 thats what im saying fuck that im gonna end up ripping the tendon right off pushing 225 and lifting 40lb dumb bells every other day it does hurt like a bitch for real
Great video and explanation. You mentioned the rotator cuff often contributes to this and I believe that is the case for me. Is there a specific video that addresses rotator cuff exercises to do specifically related to biceps tendinitis? I know you have many fabulous videos, just don't want to aggravate one thing trying to fix another. if there are specific RC exercises or stretches for this, would love to know where to find them.
I went to a physical therapist for this and she told me it was all due to weakness in my shoulder blade and gave me a bunch of stretches and exercises that I have done for months with very little improvement. I watch this video and start doing the massage you just showed, it's the first relief I've had in months, I feel kindof dumb because it seems pretty simple but seriously thank you guys.
Hi Bob and Brad! Love your channel. Question: I had a bicep injury about 7 years ago (playing drums for long periods with poor technique) At the time I was also working out regularly. I have an active lifestyle but have not started weight training again until recently. Both my arms have plenty (equal) strength, but I notice when I flex my biceps the previously injured one does not seem to respond in the same way as the non-injured side. (does not seem to flex as hard / present as large / respond explosively) Are there any exercises (other than repeated flexing) that I can do to address this? Thank You!
Woohoo! After four sessions of PT for my upper arm pain (aka shoulder pain) and two subsequent surgeries it is so nice to see a video explaining my problem After finally getting a bicep tenodesis surgery I am "mostly" pain free except when I need to do some heavy lifting as in helping someone move. I know, I know..l should have been doing my upper back strengthening exercises to protect my bicep tendon. Ah...well, life happens.
Tendonitis is practically an inflammation, right? Can these exercices really make the inflammation dissapear and totally heal the tendon? I'm struggling with pain caused by this tendonitis for 3-4 years and the orthopedical traumatologist said that surgery is the only way (they cut the superior part if the tendon and reattaches it to the humerus through a hole + screw). This sounds kinda scary, but in the end I am willing to accept it, if no other methods works!
I would recommend taking your thumb of opposite hand and separating the 2 biceps bellies and then try to lift away the bellies away from the bone individually. Work down to brachioradialis (outer forearm muscle) and do the same. Doing this on outer half of biceps and forearm is easier than inner half but do your best. Great way to massage and get more bloodflow to the area. Obviously if you have torn something all bets are off. In future when you are doing biceps curls, along with doing it the traditional way, it is very important to turn forearms about 30-40 degrees away from trunk while locking elbows against the trunk when doing biceps curls to give the biceps a more thorough workout with less future chance of injury.
Bob and Brad this has helped me alot as never had bicep tendonitis before going to follow the advice and hopefully be back to normal and pain free again soon thanks very much great characters aswell 👍💪💙
Had bicep pain have a full week of football practice, on the weekend. One arm became extremely golfed up in pain trying to fix it before Monday's game.
For 3 months i thought I had supraspinatus tendinopathy because 3 doctors and 2 physiotherapists told me so, even though I kept telling them that I can elevate my arm in all directions with no pain at all. Today I discovered from a 4th medical opinion that my gut-feeling was right and that I had biceps tendonipathy. The test in this video confirms it. Thanks you guys. I still feel only slight discomfort in that area. Do you think I can do handstands now and get away with some pullups or do I have to wait still? I'm scared it might flare again but I'm not really sure.
Wish I’d spotted this one sooner.. I’ve just rested my bicep for 4/5 weeks thinking that’d work. But the minute I lift ANYTHING it screams again just as bad. The massage immediately alleviated it. Will keep this up and hopefully have the results other postershave had. (I have had rotator cuff/bursitis for a year! Does one cause the other?) I need to do physio religiously! Really debillitating now (to the point I can’t play with my kid/go to water slide park with him when we go on holiday!)
I have a shoulder impingement and torn bicep. I don't know where to begin. I had surgery for impingement and calcific tendonitis a few years ago. I don't want surgery again
I had pain on the lower bicep. I massaged the biceps itself without any progress. Then I was told to massage my forearm, and tadam! My forearm was super tight. Try that! Thx.
Thanks for the video. What would it be if the pain is felt at the insertion of the bicep? and how would one treat that? I look forward to your response.
I discovered I have a torn long head bicep tendon in my dominant arm a few months ago only because I noticed the muscle looked funny (the Popeye look). An orthopedic surgeon confirmed it and told me that generally the only reason people surgically reattach it is for cosmetic reasons. He could not believe that I did not feel pain when it detached. Over the years (I'm now 63) I've had shoulder pain (both sides) on and off so maybe that was bicep tendinitis. Who knows. All I know is right now my arms and shoulders are essentially pain free and I'm continuing with my routine of sets of pull ups and pushups in the park and light weights in the gym. I have a feeling some day the other one will detach, maybe it's hereditary. But for my age I'm in great health and super active. John Elway won two superbowls with a detached long head tendon in his throwing arm!
I wish mine would detach like that--I actually need to go thru surgery to get that result to deal with a labral tear! (tenotomy) And that is a very cool factoid about Elway--my surgeon kept trying to convince I wouldn't notice the 5% loss of strength and I'm like, I need ALL my strength because I have so little.
@@csm1813 As soon as the doctor mentioned Elway I knew where he was going with it because I happened to be in Denver that summer for business and it was all the local press was covering it seemed. "Will he play or won't he"?? Update at 11. lol. At that time I did not pay any attention to the specifics of his injury but when the surgeon brought it up I was definitely relieved. Still no issues, it just looks funny. Banged out 50 pullups today at the park. Good luck!
@@exalhoahi. Just found out I have a bicep tendon rupture in my dominant arm. I’m a very active 41/m. Can I get a hold of you to discuss your routine for recovery?
@@mnp8211 I don't do much TBH. After seeing the orthopedic surgeon I saw a physical therapist for one session and she recommended bicep stretches, which I do fairly regularly, and internal and external shoulder rotation exercises using a band. I do those once or twice a week. I still do the workouts I mentioned in my OP. Other than occasional weird twitchy feelings (from what's left of the tendon) everything is fine. I have arthritis in the wrist of that arm from an old injury and that bothers me more than the bicep issue in day to day activities. Good luck.
I have a severe tear in the belly of my king head bicep and a small tear in the distal tendon. The surgeon doesn’t think surgery is the best option but as a martial artist and athlete I want pre injury strength and function back. I’m not sure quite what to do, I’m thinking starting with a second opinion.
Marko Polo my sports medicine doctor told me to stop slouching, watch my posture and keep my shoulders back to improve blood flow to the area. So I am thinking yes it will help.
III Eagle III yea bro I put ice to that area and massaged it with essential oil in between for about 4 times a day, and I was good within 3 weeks😊. This video is good, and I can CONFIRM this works😊
I went to a PT. They simply said don’t use/lift weights with it. I took the advice for one week, it was better. I’ve increased my activity and it is now back. I think a prolonged rest my do it good/repair any micro-tears.
Both long and short hurt and the one at elbow and lost grip. Just doing slight things hurt even at rest. Can't turn a key etc. Might try this. It's now not responding to ice/heat
You spoke about offering up other exercises to build the four muscles in the shoulder blades to help support the rotator cup and support the joint. Please share those. I have been in physical therapy for two months and it still hurts so bad!
This was so helpful I currently have Tendinitis in my bicep which has also caused some shoulder pain and doing these exercises from this video has really helped thank you so much
Thank you. I’ve had chronic shoulder & neck pain for years. In and out of PT for frozen shoulder impingement. Never thought it was bicep tendonitis. But I did your test and that pain was excruciating! I rubbed it as shown and saw a difference. I’m going to try this for a week. Thank you!
Mines from elbow to middle of bicep. If i tore it wouldn't it be completely imobile? Id say ive only got about 15-20% of my original strength an if i try to lift more it starts screamin, its been about 2-3 months now.
So the third test - What would be suspect if resistance did not hurt when the palm was facing outward but did cause pain when the back of the hand was facing outward, same motion (Basically opposite of the example from the 3rd test)?
Tendonitus for almost 6 months now. I stopped lifting for a few but it never really got better and I had cold weather spasms. So now I am just keeping it light and hoping it works itself out. 😛
@@JamesFeey it was getting better and I could workout for 10 months again and get all muscle and progress back. But it never really fully went away and I always had to do some more rest days than usual. 1 month ago it actually got a bit worse again so I'm pausing again at the moment... so I definitely recommend letting it heal completely at the beginning to not have the problem I have rn again
@@JamesFeey don't do anything or just some stuff like light exentric bicep curls and band rows without biceps activation until it feels like it's gone. THEN for like 2-4 weeks very light training with machines where you have good control, slow reps,... Never go close to failure or anything. You really have to workout without feeling fatigued. Then you can slowly increase. And of course no exercises where you feel pain
How low should I “rest and ice” this bicep tear/ strain? I actually think it”s injured from heavy lift exasperating tendinitis from holding my cell phone up for hours on end.
Love your videos!! You guys are the best! My Bicep is more tender towards the bottom. Basically on the opposite side of my elbow. Not the middle and not where it attaches to the shoulder. Do you still recommend the same treatment or a different course of action?
Same here. Very difficult to find content that addresses one-time overuse onset of tendonitis. In my case it was due to trying to muscle a stackable dryer into a closet. This happened yesterday and will try this treatment and post results.
Love these guys. Putting pressure on the inward-rotated arm, out or down, easily reproduced the pain for me. Most effective biceps tendinitis test I've tried. And the cross-friction massage works very well
Hi. I've had a biceps tendon tear for almost 20 years now. Had an extensive SLAP tear surgery to repair a torn labrum 5 years ago. Doctor said he would repair the bicep tedon too during that SLAP surgery and used a term called "letting it fly". The doctor did not "let the bicep tendon fly" and said I could always have it done later, reason being he said I was still young. In the last 8-10 years I've been developing some herniated/bulging discs in my cervical and thoracic spine (before the shoulder surgery), plus severe and moderate nerve impingement (C4-C5, C6-C7). I feel like my spinal problems come from this bicep tear, is this possible? This was my reason for getting shoulder surgery originally because the pain in my neck and back was getting pretty bad and still is now. Also have this clicking/popping of the shoulder while rotating too. One doctor said that it was unrepairable damage to the shoulder capsule. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
I am amazed at how you two always get it spot on. I’ve been to doctor, chiro, osteo’s acupuncture, had cortisone injection. You guys have made the best explanation and best excercises.
How can I know if i tore part of the muscle tear. I heard crunching sound but there wasn’t much pain during the tear in fact I was able to finish three reps after with very diminished strength. I am traveling so going to the hospital isn’t an option right now.
Bob and Brad are great they've helped me a few times on different tendons and secondary muscles etc. Thanks so much Bob and Brad! Strong like Bull....! 😃👍🏼
Fantastic! Been struggling with this for weeks after going up in weight too fast, Doc referred me to a Physical therapist but there's a 3 month waiting list. Watched dozens of vids none, of them got it right. Followed your diagnosis method, 1st negative, 2nd negative, 3rd positive. Started doing the massage 4x5 mins every other day a week ago. This fixed it for 90% in a week. Very slowly, as per your caution, starting to build up strength in it again. Thank you very much! Subscription earned.
I don’t know if I have a tear or not but I was doing curls, not really pushing myself too hard. The next day my arm I cannot stretch it fully, my arm gets stuck in a L position, if I push anymore it hurts a ton. Pain if I touch my bicep.
Hello Sir, My dad left hand Arm bicep came down, went to doctor and they suggested not to go with surgery if we do surgery also it may loose again. Can we leave it like that without surgery for rest of his life? Please suggest. Thanks..
Had 2 shoulder surgeries on the right arm and am experiencing pain when lifting weights . I am an instructor and believe it could be scar tissue and possible bicep tendonitis. I loved your video here....very informative and simple to do at home. I will try. Thank you. Any other exercises would be helpful.
My bicep shortened and went up my arm a bit I guess the “popeye” deformity. It’s not absolutely terrible but for sure different from my other arm. Basically I look like I now have one long head bi on one arm and one short head bi on the other. I have full range of motion and zero pain....no surgery and it’s been that way for two years now
I have rheumatoid arthritis once or twice a year in Spring (az weather) I get bicep tendonitis. Very excrutiating pain at movement and when laying down.
My arm doesn't hurt if I aligned it with my body and bring it straight up ( upward motion like jumping jacks), but the side of my biceps will hurt if I first bend at the elbow and then go with the same motion. It doesn't hurt as bad but it is stopping me from doing certain activities.
What you said about the rotator cuff, that if it is weak, the bicep will come in and help some more. Excellent, thank you! I likely know the reason for my frequent bicep tendon pain now.
I have a partial tear in my rotator cuff in the back and got bicep tendonitis bad. When I ice the front of the shoulder it actually makes it hurt like pulsing pains. Have you ever experienced that before? Should I alternate ice and heat or just ice?
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Every time I click on a video from you guys I think “it’s a free online resource how helpful could it be” and every time I’m amazed
This fixed me. 2 years of pain, 2 MD’s, chiropractor, massage and physical therapist. No relief. I have been doing this for 4 days and 90% of pain is gone. These guys are outstanding.
Shieet. That dope
thats borderline unbelievable... ;-)
Ya right! Lol no way
Why cant this ever be my story lmfao
I find that hard to believe but I will try it. How is it after two years?.
Holy crap I am constantly amazed at your knowledge. Every time I follow your lead the pain disappears. I think that I have all kinds of injuries or issues that I live with and don't know how to fix. And neither does anyone else! I think you both must have had high grades in school because you are so good at what you do. Thank you.
This worked for my bicep tendonitis pain which was bothering me for a couple of months . So glad I stumbled upon your video.Thanks a lot 🥰
Great work, Glad we could help. Brad
Started this 7 days ago and I'm now 85% healed.love this free information. Outstanding fellows.
How are you now?
6:40 for the actual treatment. You're welcome.
not all heros wear capes
God bless you, my good man.
thanks buddy
Thanks
In a world of cynicism, hate, destruction, anger and pain, every now and then, a hero arrives. Thank you chrokeii
This is the third big injury I’ve had that these two helped with. Heroes without capes!!
Upload everyday?!! Dang hard working. My bicep hurts for almost a year it was practically healed and I reinjured it !!! 😭
My doc recommended an mri to check tear and pt to fix. I said I will consult B&B first. So glad I have. No need for trips to pt. I’ll be doing what these guys recommend. They never steer us wrong. ❤️❤️
Wow so refreshing to hear solutions and treatment that aren’t surgery. I have a slight tear but my bicep is a bit higher than normal. Thanks for the techniques
OMG !! Thank you so much... My chiropractor checked my pain out yesterday and told me it was the bicipital tendinitis so I started looking for some treatment, and your video has helped me already. Especially the cross tendon massage.
I really appreciate the tests at the beginning of the video. I went through them and it helped me identify that yes, this is exactly what I need.
I don’t know what I had. But I switched to lightweight for months and used a tens unit a little here and there and I’m back to 100% now.
I typically do not comment on RUclips but I have to with you guys you are both absolutely amazing and have helped me out with several problems since I started lifting weights again and I greatly appreciate it
How much time it took to heal.
And from 1-10 how painful it was when you realize you need to stop.
A video on distal bicep tendonitis(I hope thats the right term) self-treatment would be much appreciated. Please and thank you.
yes, please
I’m so happy I found this channel. Idk if u 2 are still doing this. But thank u. I’ve been struggle with injuries for awhile and my bicep was the main issue
Bob an Brad, this is one of several videos which were the BEST treatment for arm pain I have been suffering for months! You are losing money by giving fee advice. But not really as if you had an office, I'd go visit you anyways. I',m commenting on all which helped me.
My PT diagnosed me with bicep tendonitis late last year and it acts up every month or two just like you described. Will try the Cross-fiber massage hopefully that helps it heal better. Thanks again
These two guys have helped me get rid of so many pains from exercise or other physical related issues. My left arm was becoming useless from the aching I had and these guys show me one stupid spot to massage on my arm and a couple hours later the pain is pretty much non-existent.
So many articles on this injury and as always Bob and Brad have the best and most practical solutions. Just wonderful, thanks so much for doing these videos!
You guys are amazing. Within seconds this worked!
Dear Bob and Brad, my husband I go to you here for everything and are so grateful for your generous videos, they have helped us over the years. My husband tore something this morning at work, the bicep definitely looks like the popeye type now. sounds like a proximinal tear...He's at the Dr right now, just want to know how you guys deal with those. Thankyou
I swear to god i did this on my right biceps, where it inserts in the front of the shoulder in the glenoid, robbing across the muscle fiber as they said in the video. First 2 days i did it the area was really sore and i felt it. 2-3 weeks later i tried it and i felt NOTHING. It's insane! This really works thanks guys!!
Just wanted to say thank you so much for your channel!! I do martial arts and am very active. I have had some injuries, and just having more information about my body has been really empowering and I have been able to take care of my body better. Of course, it doesn’t replace seeing a doctor, but knowledge is power!
so intuitive and effective! thank you very much, I had a lower bicep pain this morning and this technique help it right away,
I love you two guys. You have helped me so much.
love the info just need better sound quality. also I haven't seen a video on the lower bicep tendonitis at the elbow joint? is it the same treatment?
You ever find anything good on this? I have really bad pain at my elbow joint / low bicep when doing the test they do in this video no pain at the top of my shoulder… this is killing me I don’t know what to do :(
I was somewhat skeptical about this but I was in lots of pain. I cut out all exercises, iced 3 times a day and massaged my shoulder and bicep as demonstrated above. After 2 weeks, I switched to heat and kept massaging. After 5 weeks, my shoulder and bicep were pain free and I started light stretching and exercising. At 7 weeks, I am almost back to full strength. Thank you, guys, this really did the trick for me.
lafreeway Damn you had to completely stop working out...
Just as Sophomore :D said below, that's going to be the hardest part for me if I commit to doing this - not working out! My biceps tendon on my left shoulder has been killing me for just about 2-3 years. It started right after I had biceps tenodesis surgery on my right shoulder. All MRIs came back negative for any tears on my left shoulder though. I've already gone through physical therapy but no dice. Medication doesn't work and I notice that lifting does often irritate it more. Maybe the key is COMPLETE rest for a little while. This may be my last resort...
@@kzuik1 i think i got the same ,well my muscular bulge bit where the acromion lies it impinges pain when i bench or do overhead press of any kind, massaging the deep tissue for 3 mins twice a day really helped me helps break down the damage tissue and reform itself properly
kzuik1 I have the same thing, how is everything now for you?
@@dawg4769 thats what im saying fuck that im gonna end up ripping the tendon right off pushing 225 and lifting 40lb dumb bells every other day it does hurt like a bitch for real
Great video and explanation. You mentioned the rotator cuff often contributes to this and I believe that is the case for me. Is there a specific video that addresses rotator cuff exercises to do specifically related to biceps tendinitis? I know you have many fabulous videos, just don't want to aggravate one thing trying to fix another. if there are specific RC exercises or stretches for this, would love to know where to find them.
Thank you, guys. It seems like I have Bicep Tendonitis and your testing and rubbing treatment has helped. Thanks for sharing.
How many days it took cure?
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Yall are the best
This worked really well, thank you!
I went to a physical therapist for this and she told me it was all due to weakness in my shoulder blade and gave me a bunch of stretches and exercises that I have done for months with very little improvement. I watch this video and start doing the massage you just showed, it's the first relief I've had in months, I feel kindof dumb because it seems pretty simple but seriously thank you guys.
I'll give this a try
I was left hoping to get the information how the rotator cuff affects to the biceps problems (as promised in the beginning). Otherwise good video!
Man I have had this pain for so long and I just started rubbing it and it feels better already, I cant tell you how thankful I am.
Thank you so much for this
Hi Bob and Brad! Love your channel. Question: I had a bicep injury about 7 years ago (playing drums for long periods with poor technique) At the time I was also working out regularly. I have an active lifestyle but have not started weight training again until recently. Both my arms have plenty (equal) strength, but I notice when I flex my biceps the previously injured one does not seem to respond in the same way as the non-injured side. (does not seem to flex as hard / present as large / respond explosively) Are there any exercises (other than repeated flexing) that I can do to address this? Thank You!
Woohoo! After four sessions of PT for my upper arm pain (aka shoulder pain) and two subsequent surgeries it is so nice to see a video explaining my problem After finally getting a bicep tenodesis surgery I am "mostly" pain free except when I need to do some heavy lifting as in helping someone move. I know, I know..l should have been doing my upper back strengthening exercises to protect my bicep tendon. Ah...well, life happens.
You guys rock! Thanks for the valuable information and generous help!
Tendonitis is practically an inflammation, right? Can these exercices really make the inflammation dissapear and totally heal the tendon? I'm struggling with pain caused by this tendonitis for 3-4 years and the orthopedical traumatologist said that surgery is the only way (they cut the superior part if the tendon and reattaches it to the humerus through a hole + screw). This sounds kinda scary, but in the end I am willing to accept it, if no other methods works!
What can be mistaken for bicep tendonitis?
So my issue is where the bicep tendon inserts in the lower part, I believe it's the distal bicep tendon. Any ideas on how to fix that?
I would recommend taking your thumb of opposite hand and separating the 2 biceps bellies and then try to lift away the bellies away from the bone individually. Work down to brachioradialis (outer forearm muscle) and do the same. Doing this on outer half of biceps and forearm is easier than inner half but do your best. Great way to massage and get more bloodflow to the area. Obviously if you have torn something all bets are off. In future when you are doing biceps curls, along with doing it the traditional way, it is very important to turn forearms about 30-40 degrees away from trunk while locking elbows against the trunk when doing biceps curls to give the biceps a more thorough workout with less future chance of injury.
@@favor9677 sounds great but I have trouble with the execution. Might there be a video? 😅
Bob and Brad this has helped me alot as never had bicep tendonitis before going to follow the advice and hopefully be back to normal and pain free again soon thanks very much great characters aswell 👍💪💙
I had that Khia song stuck in my head when I saw those two books in the background at 1:40 XD
Had bicep pain have a full week of football practice, on the weekend. One arm became extremely golfed up in pain trying to fix it before Monday's game.
Thanks
damn my man got boulders for biceps
For 3 months i thought I had supraspinatus tendinopathy because 3 doctors and 2 physiotherapists told me so, even though I kept telling them that I can elevate my arm in all directions with no pain at all. Today I discovered from a 4th medical opinion that my gut-feeling was right and that I had biceps tendonipathy. The test in this video confirms it. Thanks you guys. I still feel only slight discomfort in that area. Do you think I can do handstands now and get away with some pullups or do I have to wait still? I'm scared it might flare again but I'm not really sure.
can i use a massage gun for this bob and brad?
what if you have it in both distal tendons in both arms. 💀
This really helped. It actyally got me to sleep tonight cause my pain ept me awake
Wish I’d spotted this one sooner.. I’ve just rested my bicep for 4/5 weeks thinking that’d work. But the minute I lift ANYTHING it screams again just as bad.
The massage immediately alleviated it.
Will keep this up and hopefully have the results other postershave had.
(I have had rotator cuff/bursitis for a year! Does one cause the other?)
I need to do physio religiously! Really debillitating now (to the point I can’t play with my kid/go to water slide park with him when we go on holiday!)
Same!
I have a shoulder impingement and torn bicep. I don't know where to begin. I had surgery for impingement and calcific tendonitis a few years ago. I don't want surgery again
I had pain on the lower bicep. I massaged the biceps itself without any progress. Then I was told to massage my forearm, and tadam! My forearm was super tight. Try that! Thx.
Very helpful. I think I have thoracic outlet syndrome
Thanks for the video. What would it be if the pain is felt at the insertion of the bicep? and how would one treat that? I look forward to your response.
I discovered I have a torn long head bicep tendon in my dominant arm a few months ago only because I noticed the muscle looked funny (the Popeye look). An orthopedic surgeon confirmed it and told me that generally the only reason people surgically reattach it is for cosmetic reasons. He could not believe that I did not feel pain when it detached. Over the years (I'm now 63) I've had shoulder pain (both sides) on and off so maybe that was bicep tendinitis. Who knows. All I know is right now my arms and shoulders are essentially pain free and I'm continuing with my routine of sets of pull ups and pushups in the park and light weights in the gym. I have a feeling some day the other one will detach, maybe it's hereditary. But for my age I'm in great health and super active. John Elway won two superbowls with a detached long head tendon in his throwing arm!
I wish mine would detach like that--I actually need to go thru surgery to get that result to deal with a labral tear! (tenotomy) And that is a very cool factoid about Elway--my surgeon kept trying to convince I wouldn't notice the 5% loss of strength and I'm like, I need ALL my strength because I have so little.
@@csm1813 As soon as the doctor mentioned Elway I knew where he was going with it because I happened to be in Denver that summer for business and it was all the local press was covering it seemed. "Will he play or won't he"?? Update at 11. lol. At that time I did not pay any attention to the specifics of his injury but when the surgeon brought it up I was definitely relieved. Still no issues, it just looks funny. Banged out 50 pullups today at the park. Good luck!
@@exalhoahi. Just found out I have a bicep tendon rupture in my dominant arm. I’m a very active 41/m. Can I get a hold of you to discuss your routine for recovery?
@@mnp8211 I don't do much TBH. After seeing the orthopedic surgeon I saw a physical therapist for one session and she recommended bicep stretches, which I do fairly regularly, and internal and external shoulder rotation exercises using a band. I do those once or twice a week. I still do the workouts I mentioned in my OP. Other than occasional weird twitchy feelings (from what's left of the tendon) everything is fine. I have arthritis in the wrist of that arm from an old injury and that bothers me more than the bicep issue in day to day activities. Good luck.
I have a severe tear in the belly of my king head bicep and a small tear in the distal tendon. The surgeon doesn’t think surgery is the best option but as a martial artist and athlete I want pre injury strength and function back. I’m not sure quite what to do, I’m thinking starting with a second opinion.
Would fixing my posture and rounded shoulders also help with bicep tendonitis?
Marko Polo my sports medicine doctor told me to stop slouching, watch my posture and keep my shoulders back to improve blood flow to the area. So I am thinking yes it will help.
My pain is in the lower part of my bicep. Inside part my elbow.
same and idk wht to do. im just following this but doing it for my lower part lets see if it works !!!
romit d.s any luck?
III Eagle III yea bro I put ice to that area and massaged it with essential oil in between for about 4 times a day, and I was good within 3 weeks😊. This video is good, and I can CONFIRM this works😊
romit d.s thanks for the quick response my man! I’ll give it a go myself. Got pain on inner elbow when I do a curl. I’ll give this a shot!
I went to a PT. They simply said don’t use/lift weights with it. I took the advice for one week, it was better. I’ve increased my activity and it is now back. I think a prolonged rest my do it good/repair any micro-tears.
Both long and short hurt and the one at elbow and lost grip. Just doing slight things hurt even at rest. Can't turn a key etc. Might try this. It's now not responding to ice/heat
You spoke about offering up other exercises to build the four muscles in the shoulder blades to help support the rotator cup and support the joint. Please share those. I have been in physical therapy for two months and it still hurts so bad!
This was so helpful I currently have Tendinitis in my bicep which has also caused some shoulder pain and doing these exercises from this video has really helped thank you so much
How about for the lower tendon of the biceps?
Thank you. I’ve had chronic shoulder & neck pain for years. In and out of PT for frozen shoulder impingement. Never thought it was bicep tendonitis. But I did your test and that pain was excruciating! I rubbed it as shown and saw a difference. I’m going to try this for a week. Thank you!
Its been over a month I still have pain especially pulling exercises
Did you heal?
Mines from elbow to middle of bicep. If i tore it wouldn't it be completely imobile? Id say ive only got about 15-20% of my original strength an if i try to lift more it starts screamin, its been about 2-3 months now.
Thanku always
So the third test - What would be suspect if resistance did not hurt when the palm was facing outward but did cause pain when the back of the hand was facing outward, same motion (Basically opposite of the example from the 3rd test)?
Great video, but I have a question...what about using a Hypervolt massage gun instead of moving the fingers over the painful area for tendonitis?
Tendonitus for almost 6 months now. I stopped lifting for a few but it never really got better and I had cold weather spasms. So now I am just keeping it light and hoping it works itself out. 😛
Also having it for 6 months rn. Did it get any better and if yes how?
@@prodLNDRdid you heal?
@@JamesFeey it was getting better and I could workout for 10 months again and get all muscle and progress back. But it never really fully went away and I always had to do some more rest days than usual. 1 month ago it actually got a bit worse again so I'm pausing again at the moment... so I definitely recommend letting it heal completely at the beginning to not have the problem I have rn again
@@prodLNDR how long do you recommend to leave it? I’m at 2 weeks but aggravated it slightly with not with heavy weight tho only light stuff
@@JamesFeey don't do anything or just some stuff like light exentric bicep curls and band rows without biceps activation until it feels like it's gone. THEN for like 2-4 weeks very light training with machines where you have good control, slow reps,... Never go close to failure or anything. You really have to workout without feeling fatigued. Then you can slowly increase. And of course no exercises where you feel pain
Instant relief. Thanks Bob and Brad. This is the second painful problem you have solved for me. You are the best!
Same here I think they've helped me like three or four times!
Great video! Do massage guns directly on the long head bicep tendon help or is it too much direct pressure? Thanks.
anything for the upper forearm, almost inside the crick of the elbow
How low should I “rest and ice” this bicep tear/ strain? I actually think it”s injured from heavy lift exasperating tendinitis from holding my cell phone up for hours on end.
May I use Tens to massage instead of fingers? It's too tiring. Thanks
hi love your stuff. can you do a video on distal bicep tendon pain
Love your videos!! You guys are the best! My Bicep is more tender towards the bottom. Basically on the opposite side of my elbow. Not the middle and not where it attaches to the shoulder. Do you still recommend the same treatment or a different course of action?
Same here. Very difficult to find content that addresses one-time overuse onset of tendonitis. In my case it was due to trying to muscle a stackable dryer into a closet. This happened yesterday and will try this treatment and post results.
Love these guys. Putting pressure on the inward-rotated arm, out or down, easily reproduced the pain for me. Most effective biceps tendinitis test I've tried. And the cross-friction massage works very well
Hi. I've had a biceps tendon tear for almost 20 years now. Had an extensive SLAP tear surgery to repair a torn labrum 5 years ago. Doctor said he would repair the bicep tedon too during that SLAP surgery and used a term called "letting it fly". The doctor did not "let the bicep tendon fly" and said I could always have it done later, reason being he said I was still young. In the last 8-10 years I've been developing some herniated/bulging discs in my cervical and thoracic spine (before the shoulder surgery), plus severe and moderate nerve impingement (C4-C5, C6-C7). I feel like my spinal problems come from this bicep tear, is this possible?
This was my reason for getting shoulder surgery originally because the pain in my neck and back was getting pretty bad and still is now. Also have this clicking/popping of the shoulder while rotating too. One doctor said that it was unrepairable damage to the shoulder capsule. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
I am amazed at how you two always get it spot on. I’ve been to doctor, chiro, osteo’s acupuncture, had cortisone injection. You guys have made the best explanation and best excercises.
How can I know if i tore part of the muscle tear. I heard crunching sound but there wasn’t much pain during the tear in fact I was able to finish three reps after with very diminished strength. I am traveling so going to the hospital isn’t an option right now.
We would suggest just being very careful and don't strain it anymore until you can follow up with a doctor.
How good are you guys diagnosed my problem and gave me treatment via watching a youtube video, thank you so much
Happy to help 😊 Best Wishes Brad
Bob and Brad are great they've helped me a few times on different tendons and secondary muscles etc. Thanks so much Bob and Brad! Strong like Bull....! 😃👍🏼
Fantastic! Been struggling with this for weeks after going up in weight too fast, Doc referred me to a Physical therapist but there's a 3 month waiting list.
Watched dozens of vids none, of them got it right. Followed your diagnosis method, 1st negative, 2nd negative, 3rd positive.
Started doing the massage 4x5 mins every other day a week ago. This fixed it for 90% in a week.
Very slowly, as per your caution, starting to build up strength in it again.
Thank you very much!
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my pain is not in the shoulder but at the bottom of the bicep near the inside of the elbow
same😭
I don’t know if I have a tear or not but I was doing curls, not really pushing myself too hard. The next day my arm I cannot stretch it fully, my arm gets stuck in a L position, if I push anymore it hurts a ton. Pain if I touch my bicep.
Hey bro is there any updates?
You guys are amazing! Thank you for this video!
Hello Sir,
My dad left hand Arm bicep came down, went to doctor and they suggested not to go with surgery if we do surgery also it may loose again. Can we leave it like that without surgery for rest of his life? Please suggest. Thanks..
How many days should I wait to apply this technique, after experiencing a bicep tear?
When you can do it without new or more pain
Had 2 shoulder surgeries on the right arm and am experiencing pain when lifting weights . I am an instructor and believe it could be scar tissue and possible bicep tendonitis. I loved your video here....very informative and simple to do at home. I will try. Thank you. Any other exercises would be helpful.
My bicep shortened and went up my arm a bit I guess the “popeye” deformity. It’s not absolutely terrible but for sure different from my other arm. Basically I look like I now have one long head bi on one arm and one short head bi on the other. I have full range of motion and zero pain....no surgery and it’s been that way for two years now
I think I injured this when I was straining to fold my hands behind my back in a Yoga pose. Does this sound logical?
What about distal tendonitis? When it's the tendon closer to your elbow?
I have rheumatoid arthritis once or twice a year in Spring (az weather) I get bicep tendonitis. Very excrutiating pain at movement and when laying down.
This sucks. I am never watching one of these videos again.
My arm doesn't hurt if I aligned it with my body and bring it straight up ( upward motion like jumping jacks), but the side of my biceps will hurt if I first bend at the elbow and then go with the same motion. It doesn't hurt as bad but it is stopping me from doing certain activities.
What you said about the rotator cuff, that if it is weak, the bicep will come in and help some more. Excellent, thank you! I likely know the reason for my frequent bicep tendon pain now.
Today I hurt my right arm pushing a big yellow cart at Amazon, ran into a hard steal pole. My arm went to my shoulder and hurt it
I have a partial tear in my rotator cuff in the back and got bicep tendonitis bad. When I ice the front of the shoulder it actually makes it hurt like pulsing pains. Have you ever experienced that before? Should I alternate ice and heat or just ice?