wouldn´t it be good in this season when you say after every banlist you all get 20 secretpacks instead of 10 becuse i think farfa made a good point in this video that it is really hard to get functional decks out of 10 packs, so to compensate the loss of banned cards/decks after the banlist i think it would be nice that all of you 3 have a chance to get a good new strategy after the ban hits🤔
Oh, hell no! Giving Gage a chance to equalize maybe ok(even if I don't like the idea, just because know his deck is unplayble), but now he mede you and Farfa waste an extra week of pulls. Bad choice
I dislike regulus ban since it would've been impossible in the ban episode, BUT MORE BANS IN GENERAL MAKES ME SO HAPPY I WANT THE THREE OF THEM TO PLAY WITH CARDS FOUND AT THE BOTTOM OF A WELL
I feel Gage shouldn't have gotten to ban Therion Regulus since that card didn't exist during the ban episode. Otherwise I'm happy for those that wanted this. Gage didn't get hurt more in that last ban session.
Agreed. Some people thought the critique was just "poor Gage, no usable deck," when the actual criticism is "poor Gage, he got more bans than others." The current solution means Mr. Dzeeff understands the critique, and I'm very happy about that.
@@aciesara5444i mean free for all leads to that tho doesn't it? Hitting the strongest person is just what makes sense for every player and gage was the strongest person before that episode
Okay so I know it happened by accident last time, but I really like the idea of turning the wild card bans into a prisoner’s dilemma. If all of you ban cards from different people nothing happens, but if somebody gets doubled up on then everybody’s decks get nuked
I liked this solution to the Wild Card Ban fiasco. It's true that Farfa and Doug would have probably focused more on Lab in the standard bans if it weren't for the Wild Card Bans, so rather than letting Lab completely roam free, Gage gets to personally resolve the main criticism with that entire system, which is how they were adversely leveled against him.
After being on a massive losing streak since the start, Gage gets momentum. Bans happen... surprise new rule, dude gets all his decks crippled beyond viability. Blaming Gage for ruining the show because of his fans seems a bit of a leap in logic to me. The choice listen to the whiners was on them entirely. Nobody wants to watch 2 guys consistently clap one guy with a significantly worse deck for several episodes
@@taylorbenson6284 Maybe Gage should have picked better packs. He tunneled into one strategy that was highly dependent on a few key cards and was punished accordingly. "Nobody wants to watch 2 guys consistently clap on one guy with a significantly worse deck" speak for yourself! I was more than happy to watch Gage reap what he sowed.
Its crazy how much Saga/Roulette has pushed my weeks forward and gave me things to look forward to during sad times. Things always get better, not tryna be a doomer. But luv u Mr Zeef. Wholesome good content.
Just to throw an idea out there, and I know it would be pretty hard to organise. But I would love a series in the style of Master Saga, where 2 (or more) non-yugitubers pull packs and duel, but each of them gets a yugituber as a coach to help with selecting packs, deckbuilding and practising combos. (Thinking of the situation with Rarran and Farfa here). You would of course have to hold the coaches back a bit, so the final decisions - and missplays - lie with the contestants. Think this would have potential for some cool interaction and funny moments.
A coach series would be so sick. Maybe they can get some Hearthstone or Magic Tubers, since they'd have good base tcg knowledge and hopefully pick things up quick.
Shadowverse did this, but it was a huge sponsored production. You can't synch schedules for that broad of a player pool very easily without a pile of money.
Watching people STILL argue in the comments is a bit depressing. Last time the viewer response definitely went too far and even after we got a reasonable middle ground people (a plus for those who thought bans were unfair and for those who don't want to see Lab again when Gage kept on double dipping) people are still complaining 😢. Nevertheless this season has been great overall (despite a certain someone's unfortunate pulls 😂) and hope the viewers responses don't put a damper on things.
I’m gonna be honest, I don’t like Nymnym getting the extra bans. Everyone had the same number and chose to target the most powerful deck with them. Not a good solution to butcher everyone else’s wider strategies in order to make up for it imo
@@matthewpopow6647 I see what you mean, they all had the same number of their cards banned, but Nymnym still got to ban more cards overall. That’s the part that feels wrong here. If everyone got an extra ban, one for each player, that feels more fair and balanced.
@@Piccolo918 Doug is winning overall, but Gage was on a win streak, meaning from an objective standpoint he likely had the best deck at the time. From an emotional standpoint it might have felt bad. But from an objective perspective, targeting his deck like that was perfectly fine, especially considering there S/T removal was already neutered
You should try teaming up with youtubers from other TCGs to do a "Student to Master Saga", where you coach them each week to work with their cards. It means you can't just take the best secret pack, you want to pick a secret pack that's good for beginners.
You should take care of the bans like the NFL does free agency. Every ban someone gets (team losing someone to free agency) they get additional packs on the next episode (NFL team gets additional draft picks).
1 player plays a deck for the fourth time against 2 brand new decks and wins. No one is surprised. The editor putting the sleeping bit in the video was right xD
Zeus is literally a "Divine Arsenal", so I would assume it's some kind of mobile suit of sorts. Though the way it fights seems reminiscent of a Super Robot, or at least something out of G Gundam, so I would assume it's large enough to match a building or satellite. Certainly larger than the Mecha Musume armor pieces used by Raye, and probably bigger than Zeke, H.A.M.P. or S.P.E.C.T.R.A. though I could see it being at a similar scale to those things as well.
that's the point, to force creative deck building and not let players get away with going into cope packs. Unless you keep opening the same pack. In which case, you're just that good.
So the wild card bans get 2 cards banned from gage and to "balance" it you let gage ban 3 additional cards after he already got to ban 1 from the wild card ban... Stop catering to Gage like you did in battle city Doug. I can understand letting him ban an additional card because he was targeted, but 3 is ludicrous. Edit for a hypothetical: let's say you had gone 2-0 every week for the first 9 weeks. You are now 18-0 and the other two are individually at BEST 9-9 and at worst 0-18. If the others then used the wild cards to target you to even the playing field with what you just did for gage you would then get to ban 3 additional cards after going 18-0 just because you had 1 extra card banned from your collection due to the wild card ban targeting you. That's genuinely stupid.
Giving Gage the extra bans is fair enough, but that Regulus ban feels kinda whack since it was pulled post-ban. The bans should have been limited to the cards pulled before the ban list imo, this just feels like Doug is getting punished by Gage's fans :/
Nice to see Mathmech still putting in work without going full helmet. Reminds me of the jank builds I liked using during events, those go great with the less Link-focused @Ignister pieces.
Mr. Douglas "Dzeeff" Zeeff, your transgressions will not be forgiven so easily. The hatchet cannot be buried with just this much. I think I speak for everyone when I say that the bare minimum as far as peace offerings are concerned are 40 UR crafts for Gage, and an automatic victory for the next 13 seasons of Master Saga. What say you? I think this is extremely reasonable actually (this is satire, before anyone dogpiles on me)
I think a better solution would have been to redo the bans from the previous episode - because you can tell they were made with the Wild Ban in mind -, ignoring the cards that would have been obtained in that episode. Because that ban on Regulus and the bulldozer feel pretty bad considering that just that was the Deck that Doug put together to recover from the hits.
Not really. If they make Gage only ban cards from before banlist, it would still be unfair since Gage essentially got sacked a full week and doug got a full free week from the wild cards.
@@Ice_IcembGage’s deck last week would still have been shit if only one lab card and not Rexterm was banned (because without the wild card Farfa wasn’t using his main ban on Rexterm and not Lab)
Leaving a suggestion for Gage here after coming back to my comments notifs: I think gage went into the link starter deck and he also pulled for Salads. If he got any Cyberse extenders at all, he could play a Cyberse pile with salad on the side, Gage has Update Jammer and that along Rasterliger, which is Accesscode at home, gives him a theme deck not tied to any one archetype, save for the salad engine for deep draw or whatever, and you get an accesscode jumpscare without accesscode.
I like gage getting those wild card bans to level the playing field, but idk if I agree with him being able to ban regulus since Doug just got that card a few episodes after bans, but I do like the homies helping a homie out😂🙏
You saying that as if this whole thing wasnt doug trying to save face after him and farfa targeted gage with the wild ban that they pulled out of thier asses lmao @@SDDranzer
I think it's fair because he had a day where he was at a significant disadvantage compared to the other two because of the wild card bans. Getting an extra week to ban from compensates.
Personally not a fan of wild card bans, but honestly the solution was even kinda worse... Getting turbo demolished is expected if you open the same pack 3 times.
The issue with it, imo, is that he had more information for his bans than they did. If they really wanted to do it this way he should have had to ban cards they had during the banlist episode. Banning a card pulled after the banlist seemed kinda dumb.
Some weeks they rock up with decks like these and it is hard going but I make it through the episode just to see what clip Crush Cards leaves in the credits. Highlight of my week.
I'm mixed on giving Gage another 3 bans, the wild card bans were kinda weird too, but Gage getting hit twice from it was due to his own actions. I could see giving him 1 ban for it, but 3? I think that was a bit too much. He wouldn't be in such a bad spot if he didn't go into the same pack so much, so I don't see why people in the comments are complaining over something that was in his power.
I watched the episode last week when it dropped so I had no idea about the backlash from wild card until I went back to read the comments and damn it was brutal
@@SimplyTJBhey person who critizised Dzeef about the wild cards when the episode dropped here, I'm not even subbed to gage's channel and I could tell it was unfair as fuck. So don't pretend it was only gage fans that commented about it.
@@SimplyTJBBut they used the regular bans to kills his dinomorphia payoff and then invented a new banning system to kill his other strategy. It's not that redoing packs wasn't risky, it's that it took a last minute change of rules to punish it, and that doesn't seem fair.
@@mark1A100 I guess that is true but an 0 - 2 is way less impactful than a week worth of pulls. Plus we didn't get to see how Therion develops which sucks for the audience
@@mark1A100due to a ban rule that was announced weeks earlier...and he knew he should have expected to get hit with at least partially (the collusion is a separate thing)
I feel like the Lab bans were warranted considering why the Master series were made to be as far away from the meta as possible and Gage basically playing meta Lab was basically forcing Doug and Farfa to play into a "Meta" but personally I feel like the main problem is the fact they didn't account for the 3 people aspect of this season alongside the new packs basically making it easier to make meta decks. It was a messy affair over all and I am glad they addressed it but they need to basically scrutinize the new packs for how well they can be if they are ran multiple times like Lab, Tear and Swordsoul which all increase in usability the moment you get the "core" URs
To be fair most of the criticism was how disproportionate and out of nowhere it was. Frankly this is fine evening the playing field and hopefully they learn to actually tell people these things ahead of time rather than on the episode
Honestly, I feel like you shouldn't be able to open the same pack more than two times. It would avoid the problem of the near-meta lab pack for Gage and the repetitions from Farfa for future seasons. 3 people saga has been awesome, but these are definitely the lower points of it for me.
@@briansuarez2817 it wouldn´t have the same impact as they did to them, if they wanted to kill lab they should have let dpe live, or ban dpe and the big lab monster, that dino fusion seems like a wierd ban
I'm with you, I don't think it is right to ban Regulus here. I'm fine with the additional bans to compensate for the wild card bans, but hitting something that he should not have known about feels wrong.
I truly do think that the og bans were fine. I don't mind that they were pretty one sides, but whatever helps out this series and Doug the most I guess lol
"Wah wah wah, the extra ban sucked, this series sucks, wah wah wah" "Ok, ok, we'll give Gage some extra ban, calm down" "Wah wah wah, how dare Gage use his extra ban in an effective way, this series sucks now, wah wah wah"
Literally the problem. Honestly, Doug should just have gone back on the extra bans and leave it at that, everyone's gonna complain when it comes to the bans. Look at prog and how everyone cries about everything there, but Cimo doesn't give a shit about it.
@@reydragon2597then people would bitch about Lab steamrolling for 4 weeks This was better for the series overall, doesn't matter if some people throw a fit regardless
without the extra bans, I'm sure both Doug and Farfa would have gone after Lab rather than the one-ofs for Extra deck mons. DPE and Rexterm are good, but the small engines they run can be bricy or hard to find. That'd be better for the series, but what's done is done. @@MiyaoMeow588
The difference is the people who complained the first time are fine with it the people who were fine with it last time are now complaining. However seeing the like to dislike ratio the first camp is larger
"Im just happy to be here :D" Man as much as smugly winning gage is infuriating(a good trait as a heel) in Progression, I love this dude here, he's just such a nice fella. Id let him watch my pets in my absence.
Don’t see why it was needed. It happens when you put all your eggs in one basket. So why the extra bans? Feels like it defeats the purpose of a ban list if dosent heavily impact the game somehow
I'm so late to the party, but I dont agree with Gage being able to ban Regulus. Even out the bans if you want, but it should've been limited to cards that Dzeef owned PRE banlist. Because if Regulus had already been banned when he pulled his packs, he wouldnt have gone into that secret pack. It puts Dzeef a week behind everyone else, who got to spend a week rebuilding a collection he is JUST NOW having to start rebuilding.
People keep saying Gage was punished for tunneling but Farfa opened the Striker/Mathmech pack more than Gage opened Lab, and he's also still playing it post banlist. Gage also had DPE/Rexterm banned. If there were only 2 bans he would either keep both of them, or at least Rex + an extra Lab card. Him getting the extra bans makes things more fair, but he's still worse off than if the bans functioned as normal. Boneless Mathmech has a good chance of going 6-0 over the next 3 weeks if Farfa keeps playing it. Honestly even his Shaddolls are better than anything the other two have left/could reasonably pull from 10 secret packs.
look Im one of the biggest Gage simps out there tbh, but in the spirit of fairness, letting gage get these extra bans after the banning after an episode already went through with the bans is too OP. We got to see how the initial bans impacted the decks and getting to ban more things after that is way more powerful than something like farfa and doug deciding mutually one of his banned cards to get back. Not to mention he banned a card pulled (crafted technically I guess) AFTER the banning. Just me yapping without even seeing past the intro so far no idea how it actually plays out, but age of Gage forever nonethelessp
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Ngl I’m gonna be honest I like the 1v1 best of 3 format tbh
wouldn´t it be good in this season when you say after every banlist you all get 20 secretpacks instead of 10 becuse i think farfa made a good point in this video that it is really hard to get functional decks out of 10 packs, so to compensate the loss of banned cards/decks after the banlist i think it would be nice that all of you 3 have a chance to get a good new strategy after the ban hits🤔
Oh, hell no! Giving Gage a chance to equalize maybe ok(even if I don't like the idea, just because know his deck is unplayble), but now he mede you and Farfa waste an extra week of pulls. Bad choice
I think you should randomly ban four cards from Gages collection every episode. Keep him on his toes.
Give bro a break 😭
how about no? malding gage is funnier@@andreBDbe
why stop at 4?how about 10?
Based
Lol that would be cruel yet very funny to just spring on him as a new rule.
I dislike regulus ban since it would've been impossible in the ban episode, BUT MORE BANS IN GENERAL MAKES ME SO HAPPY I WANT THE THREE OF THEM TO PLAY WITH CARDS FOUND AT THE BOTTOM OF A WELL
"I'm just happy to be here." Gage, I love you man.
"I could of won if not for icarus" i guess Gage flew a little to close to the sun there
I wish I could like this more than once
Nah he didn’t fly close enough to the sun.
Have* not of
"Could of"
Man, Icarus Attack has been hosing Gage for multiple years at this point.
Blackwing cards are the kryptonite to Superman Gage.
I feel Gage shouldn't have gotten to ban Therion Regulus since that card didn't exist during the ban episode. Otherwise I'm happy for those that wanted this. Gage didn't get hurt more in that last ban session.
Agreed
Agreed. Some people thought the critique was just "poor Gage, no usable deck," when the actual criticism is "poor Gage, he got more bans than others."
The current solution means Mr. Dzeeff understands the critique, and I'm very happy about that.
Agreed.
@@aciesara5444i mean free for all leads to that tho doesn't it? Hitting the strongest person is just what makes sense for every player and gage was the strongest person before that episode
The advanced crystal beasts actually advanced backwards. That's why they are worse than the normal ones.
Hooray! Farfa finally got to be the Avatar!
FarfAang
Okay so I know it happened by accident last time, but I really like the idea of turning the wild card bans into a prisoner’s dilemma. If all of you ban cards from different people nothing happens, but if somebody gets doubled up on then everybody’s decks get nuked
You just made the Virtue's Last Reward OST appear in my mind, and that form of banning would be so much fun.
I really like this idea
Oh yeah! This is a really cool idea, I want more Prisoner's Dilemna bans, more people need to upvote this.
Gage's win ratio would be 9/11 since last episode's duel was a god damn tragedy for the age of gage
I liked this solution to the Wild Card Ban fiasco. It's true that Farfa and Doug would have probably focused more on Lab in the standard bans if it weren't for the Wild Card Bans, so rather than letting Lab completely roam free, Gage gets to personally resolve the main criticism with that entire system, which is how they were adversely leveled against him.
But he took away a card that was pulled after the ban list which is dumb
@@stardusttkdcamo5509ganging up on one person and making them unable to compete is beyond dumber and would make the series completely unfun to watch
After being on a massive losing streak since the start, Gage gets momentum. Bans happen... surprise new rule, dude gets all his decks crippled beyond viability. Blaming Gage for ruining the show because of his fans seems a bit of a leap in logic to me. The choice listen to the whiners was on them entirely. Nobody wants to watch 2 guys consistently clap one guy with a significantly worse deck for several episodes
@@taylorbenson6284 Maybe Gage should have picked better packs. He tunneled into one strategy that was highly dependent on a few key cards and was punished accordingly. "Nobody wants to watch 2 guys consistently clap on one guy with a significantly worse deck" speak for yourself! I was more than happy to watch Gage reap what he sowed.
@@moistnar getting 2 additional cards ass pull banned from your decks isnt "reaping what you sew"
Its crazy how much Saga/Roulette has pushed my weeks forward and gave me things to look forward to during sad times. Things always get better, not tryna be a doomer. But luv u Mr Zeef. Wholesome good content.
Waiting on “Barbaros, Beast King”
That's the MTG counterpart, cousin to Barbaros, King Beast, another MTG card
As soon as I saw Gage playing Katakuri, I knew 100% he is going to kill himself with the "Must attack" effect.
Joseph: Hello I brought my friends with me.
Yeah you should leave now. But your friends can stay.😂
Just to throw an idea out there, and I know it would be pretty hard to organise. But I would love a series in the style of Master Saga, where 2 (or more) non-yugitubers pull packs and duel, but each of them gets a yugituber as a coach to help with selecting packs, deckbuilding and practising combos. (Thinking of the situation with Rarran and Farfa here).
You would of course have to hold the coaches back a bit, so the final decisions - and missplays - lie with the contestants.
Think this would have potential for some cool interaction and funny moments.
A coach series would be so sick. Maybe they can get some Hearthstone or Magic Tubers, since they'd have good base tcg knowledge and hopefully pick things up quick.
Nah coaches would probably misplay more than the students let's be real
esp if someone plays cherubini against doug😂
Shadowverse did this, but it was a huge sponsored production. You can't synch schedules for that broad of a player pool very easily without a pile of money.
Watching people STILL argue in the comments is a bit depressing. Last time the viewer response definitely went too far and even after we got a reasonable middle ground people (a plus for those who thought bans were unfair and for those who don't want to see Lab again when Gage kept on double dipping) people are still complaining 😢.
Nevertheless this season has been great overall (despite a certain someone's unfortunate pulls 😂) and hope the viewers responses don't put a damper on things.
Bluds turned this week into the regression series
This whole comment thread is the definition of you can't please everyone 😂 great vid
Was not expecting the Star Wars Rebels reference, but I loved it.
Cimo saying "gage is going to shit" once was enough for the brainworms to take full control of Farfa ever since
I’m gonna be honest, I don’t like Nymnym getting the extra bans. Everyone had the same number and chose to target the most powerful deck with them. Not a good solution to butcher everyone else’s wider strategies in order to make up for it imo
He didn't get extra bans. He got 4 cards banned from his deck. Farfa got 3 and Doug got 2. It brought him to the same amout.
They targeted his decks even though Doug is winning right now. It was a scummy move, and they knew it was.
@@Piccolo918 Doug was winning because of the huge lead at the start though. Nymnym was making up ground fast with the Labrynth deck
@@matthewpopow6647 I see what you mean, they all had the same number of their cards banned, but Nymnym still got to ban more cards overall. That’s the part that feels wrong here. If everyone got an extra ban, one for each player, that feels more fair and balanced.
@@Piccolo918 Doug is winning overall, but Gage was on a win streak, meaning from an objective standpoint he likely had the best deck at the time. From an emotional standpoint it might have felt bad. But from an objective perspective, targeting his deck like that was perfectly fine, especially considering there S/T removal was already neutered
You should try teaming up with youtubers from other TCGs to do a "Student to Master Saga", where you coach them each week to work with their cards. It means you can't just take the best secret pack, you want to pick a secret pack that's good for beginners.
Even if the run time would be longer, 10 packs are getting stale quickly. 15 allowed for much more flexibility and, honestly, 10 are just not enough.
Watching this while on holiday, still making sure to tune in
Who the heck goes on holiday on a Wednesday?
soon Dzeef will join the Speedroid cult
Been refreshing every 10 minutes since the last episode. Getting me through the week.
Doug handled the wild card bans in the most elegant way possible
The thumbnail makes farfa look like the avatar
I feel like I say this every week, but man, Crush Card's edition on this series is ON POINT
22:10 you are a real one for saying this! My favorite of the bls in duel links and my most played one :)))
Heres hoping the bathmech pack gets legacy banned next season lol
You should take care of the bans like the NFL does free agency. Every ban someone gets (team losing someone to free agency) they get additional packs on the next episode (NFL team gets additional draft picks).
1 player plays a deck for the fourth time against 2 brand new decks and wins. No one is surprised. The editor putting the sleeping bit in the video was right xD
Isn't this the 3rd time doug played harpie speedroid?
I think he was talking about Mathmech@@Shadow8332
@@Shadow8332Yes, but Harpies are cool and based.
@@MainManJaggi oh so speedroid isn't cool or based ? I see how it is...
You are making my favorite series on RUclips doug. Absolute highlight of my week sometimes. Keep it up!
Zeus is literally a "Divine Arsenal", so I would assume it's some kind of mobile suit of sorts. Though the way it fights seems reminiscent of a Super Robot, or at least something out of G Gundam, so I would assume it's large enough to match a building or satellite. Certainly larger than the Mecha Musume armor pieces used by Raye, and probably bigger than Zeke, H.A.M.P. or S.P.E.C.T.R.A. though I could see it being at a similar scale to those things as well.
Man, 10 packs is just not enough
It’s just not. Idk wtf happened to 15 packs, it’s so confusing
@@dougisacatMaybe because of the 3rd player the runtime would've been too long? I dunno, I do miss the flexibility of the extra 5 packs.
that's the point, to force creative deck building and not let players get away with going into cope packs. Unless you keep opening the same pack. In which case, you're just that good.
@@reydragon2597 cue in Farfa quadruple dipping into Raye's pack with no engage
I agree, bring back 15 fr
So the wild card bans get 2 cards banned from gage and to "balance" it you let gage ban 3 additional cards after he already got to ban 1 from the wild card ban...
Stop catering to Gage like you did in battle city Doug. I can understand letting him ban an additional card because he was targeted, but 3 is ludicrous.
Edit for a hypothetical: let's say you had gone 2-0 every week for the first 9 weeks. You are now 18-0 and the other two are individually at BEST 9-9 and at worst 0-18. If the others then used the wild cards to target you to even the playing field with what you just did for gage you would then get to ban 3 additional cards after going 18-0 just because you had 1 extra card banned from your collection due to the wild card ban targeting you. That's genuinely stupid.
Its not even to Gage, IS to his fans
Giving Gage the extra bans is fair enough, but that Regulus ban feels kinda whack since it was pulled post-ban. The bans should have been limited to the cards pulled before the ban list imo, this just feels like Doug is getting punished by Gage's fans :/
Okay now next season its you mbt and farfa while gage tries roulette :D
19:38 "I'm gonna breed Gage" - Nadhir Mazouni, Konami Employee, 2024.
Meanwhile mbt makes an inflated dark magician girl meme. Wonders where is his sponsorship? Konami is the duality of man.
At least lab stayed banned
I forget this is on a wednesday night, but always happy to see Saga in my feed Dzeeff!
Gage is fucking hilarious haha, glad you stood up for me, cus I was just happy to be here
Dude the editor for these vids is so funny
People are upset with farfa but really he's the only one that showed up with a deck, the other two guys showed up with gaahbage
You act like they had a choice. Both of them have absolutely nothing while farfa is rocking a deck he already played a couple of times.
@@oscarlaud470at least the wins are evening out. Farfa was behind until this episode. Even if only by 1 lol.
Nice to see Mathmech still putting in work without going full helmet. Reminds me of the jank builds I liked using during events, those go great with the less Link-focused @Ignister pieces.
Mr. Douglas "Dzeeff" Zeeff, your transgressions will not be forgiven so easily.
The hatchet cannot be buried with just this much. I think I speak for everyone when I say that the bare minimum as far as peace offerings are concerned are 40 UR crafts for Gage, and an automatic victory for the next 13 seasons of Master Saga.
What say you? I think this is extremely reasonable actually
(this is satire, before anyone dogpiles on me)
Therion regulus should be kept because it was pulled in 10 not before
I think a better solution would have been to redo the bans from the previous episode - because you can tell they were made with the Wild Ban in mind -, ignoring the cards that would have been obtained in that episode.
Because that ban on Regulus and the bulldozer feel pretty bad considering that just that was the Deck that Doug put together to recover from the hits.
@@OjamaFanatic622it basically rewarded gage for having the better deck before the banlist
They literally said fuck your episode 10 craft.
Not really. If they make Gage only ban cards from before banlist, it would still be unfair since Gage essentially got sacked a full week and doug got a full free week from the wild cards.
@@Ice_IcembGage’s deck last week would still have been shit if only one lab card and not Rexterm was banned (because without the wild card Farfa wasn’t using his main ban on Rexterm and not Lab)
Dzeef clearly made the wild cards the instant Gage limited Unexpected Dai. I know this isn't the case but it would be funny if it was.
And farfa just plays along with Doug saying that they forgot to tell gege
This was planned back during episode 6 and 7 it wasn't out of nowhere
@@kristianschuff1723 Yeah I know I was just being funny.
3:30
Who names their Spell Card "Boogie Trap"?
"why are there no Floowandereeze packs?!" Been asking that for months m'dude
Why because komoney hates Floo.
Because MD developers genuinely hate Floowandereeze.
didn't everyone complain when floo came out in MD and were statue locking every game?
Because they realize people want to play
I got all the floos cards when they released that pack that had them for limited time, should play them agaib
song playing in the intro around 2:00?
Master duel battle theme , I believe it's the monarch one
Leaving a suggestion for Gage here after coming back to my comments notifs: I think gage went into the link starter deck and he also pulled for Salads. If he got any Cyberse extenders at all, he could play a Cyberse pile with salad on the side, Gage has Update Jammer and that along Rasterliger, which is Accesscode at home, gives him a theme deck not tied to any one archetype, save for the salad engine for deep draw or whatever, and you get an accesscode jumpscare without accesscode.
Thank you for the rebels clip for Thrawn!! ❤
I like gage getting those wild card bans to level the playing field, but idk if I agree with him being able to ban regulus since Doug just got that card a few episodes after bans, but I do like the homies helping a homie out😂🙏
Yea, didn't he pull Regulus after the bans? Seems unfair but it is to be expected from lil bro, look at how bad he is doing, he needs all the help.
You saying that as if this whole thing wasnt doug trying to save face after him and farfa targeted gage with the wild ban that they pulled out of thier asses lmao @@SDDranzer
I think it's fair because he had a day where he was at a significant disadvantage compared to the other two because of the wild card bans. Getting an extra week to ban from compensates.
@@alexYu-gi-ohit was planned way before the Age of Gage started rolling. I think it was around episode 6 or 7? You can watch the streams if you want.
@@alexYu-gi-ohThey announced it like 2 full streams earlier (they do 2 episodes a stream)
Crush Cards are goated for the Star Wars Rebels clip!
honestly that last section that just turned into a "what cards did you guys have in europe" podcast was fun
Rank 3 forgotten art. Meanwhile Diabellstar Goblins...
But, is that deck good?
@@Ragnarok540it has Diabel in it, if you cope enough anything is good
Very good Episode Dzeeff and Crushcards keep up the good Work 🔥
Personally not a fan of wild card bans, but honestly the solution was even kinda worse... Getting turbo demolished is expected if you open the same pack 3 times.
The issue with it, imo, is that he had more information for his bans than they did. If they really wanted to do it this way he should have had to ban cards they had during the banlist episode. Banning a card pulled after the banlist seemed kinda dumb.
I like Gage, what a nice young man he is
Some weeks they rock up with decks like these and it is hard going but I make it through the episode just to see what clip Crush Cards leaves in the credits. Highlight of my week.
But I am loving the round robin dynamic this season
I love the banlist evening out method- instead of taking it back, giving gage bans was such a good way of handling it imo
I'm mixed on giving Gage another 3 bans, the wild card bans were kinda weird too, but Gage getting hit twice from it was due to his own actions. I could see giving him 1 ban for it, but 3? I think that was a bit too much. He wouldn't be in such a bad spot if he didn't go into the same pack so much, so I don't see why people in the comments are complaining over something that was in his power.
kinda bullshit that gage got to ban regulus even tho doug pulled it after the banlist…
I watched the episode last week when it dropped so I had no idea about the backlash from wild card until I went back to read the comments and damn it was brutal
What a joke btw i feel bad for doug
Gage fans bitching like it was a good idea for him or Farfa to quadruple dip into the same pack.
true its not like farfa and dzeef said fir episodes to cage that its not a good idea to just build a just 1 deck @@SimplyTJB
@@SimplyTJBhey person who critizised Dzeef about the wild cards when the episode dropped here, I'm not even subbed to gage's channel and I could tell it was unfair as fuck. So don't pretend it was only gage fans that commented about it.
@@SimplyTJBBut they used the regular bans to kills his dinomorphia payoff and then invented a new banning system to kill his other strategy.
It's not that redoing packs wasn't risky, it's that it took a last minute change of rules to punish it, and that doesn't seem fair.
Thank you Doug and Farfa for being adults about this. But I just can’t help but feel you’re being taken advantage of.
It's unfair gage got to ban cards pulled after the banlist. Doug got set back a week for no reason
gage was basically forced into an 0-2 due to a random ban rule so it feels fair enough honestly
@@mark1A100 I guess that is true but an 0 - 2 is way less impactful than a week worth of pulls. Plus we didn't get to see how Therion develops which sucks for the audience
i mean it wasnt a weeks worth of pulls it was the boss momster of the pack for sure but the other therions are not awful
@@mark1A100due to a ban rule that was announced weeks earlier...and he knew he should have expected to get hit with at least partially (the collusion is a separate thing)
Was concerned about how the rollout of the compensation for wildcard ban drama would go, but I kinda like how it played out.
I feel like the Lab bans were warranted considering why the Master series were made to be as far away from the meta as possible and Gage basically playing meta Lab was basically forcing Doug and Farfa to play into a "Meta" but personally I feel like the main problem is the fact they didn't account for the 3 people aspect of this season alongside the new packs basically making it easier to make meta decks.
It was a messy affair over all and I am glad they addressed it but they need to basically scrutinize the new packs for how well they can be if they are ran multiple times like Lab, Tear and Swordsoul which all increase in usability the moment you get the "core" URs
If i had a necklace for each time farfa pulled a archetypal boss monster that doesn't unlock a pack i would have two and you know the rest
Each time these guys say "good in duel links", It's like a card that was playable 3 years ago.
I liked when bans/limits were based on win/loss ratio and not an "everyone gets one" situation.
Hope this gets in consideration if not already
19:41
MASTER SAGA HAS FALLEN
BILLIONS MUST LAB
This was one of the episodes of all time
44:14 the melffy goes into the Zeus obviously
I don’t think that regulus should be banned as you pulled him after the ban list? Makes no sense really
I'm so happy Doug decided to keep the Lab bans. Really dodged a bullet there.
To be fair most of the criticism was how disproportionate and out of nowhere it was. Frankly this is fine evening the playing field and hopefully they learn to actually tell people these things ahead of time rather than on the episode
I am here to increase the social interaction for the algorhythms because Farfa playing Mathmech again put me to sleep.
Honestly, I feel like you shouldn't be able to open the same pack more than two times.
It would avoid the problem of the near-meta lab pack for Gage and the repetitions from Farfa for future seasons.
3 people saga has been awesome, but these are definitely the lower points of it for me.
i mean there are risks and rewards plus its luck if you get the pack unlock
definitely, doug should maybe add a rule for the next saga to maybe only let people open the same pack twice as you said
Floo is one of my favorites. MD is just merciless towards it. Robina needs justice.
I feel the solution was kinda bad just because it kinda makes last weeks pulls irrelevant and give them a huge disadvantage but thats just my 2 cents.
The best solution was to just get rid of the wildcard bans, and let gage with his lab deck.
@@augustonajm7252 or how about keep the wildcard bans but give the person who got cards banned a retaliation limit not a retaliation ban.
@@briansuarez2817 it wouldn´t have the same impact as they did to them, if they wanted to kill lab they should have let dpe live, or ban dpe and the big lab monster, that dino fusion seems like a wierd ban
@@augustonajm7252 he needed to be destroyed, he had way more wins since the last ban list episode and allowing DPE to survive a ban list is a mistake.
I can understand that Nym gets some extra bans but isn't it kinda unfair to ban a card that was pulled after the banlist episode
In my head I justified it because Gage put up with the wildcard bans for an episode (where farfa and I both played decks that are now banned)
I mean he got ban to the point he dint have a playable deck i see it fair
I'm with you, I don't think it is right to ban Regulus here. I'm fine with the additional bans to compensate for the wild card bans, but hitting something that he should not have known about feels wrong.
@@ianrohena5119 Maybe open more than one pack 4 times????
Didn't someone try to Survivor style conspire against someone like, 4 episides ago?
I truly do think that the og bans were fine. I don't mind that they were pretty one sides, but whatever helps out this series and Doug the most I guess lol
I agree. I also think he should have only been able to ban cards from before last week's episode. regulous was a low blow.
@@Richtothats valid. But one player getting 4 cards banned while another only gets 2 was freaking stupid.
@@matthewpopow6647he was on a winning streak, the one on the winning streak ALWAYS got more cards hit.
"Wah wah wah, the extra ban sucked, this series sucks, wah wah wah"
"Ok, ok, we'll give Gage some extra ban, calm down"
"Wah wah wah, how dare Gage use his extra ban in an effective way, this series sucks now, wah wah wah"
Literally the problem. Honestly, Doug should just have gone back on the extra bans and leave it at that, everyone's gonna complain when it comes to the bans. Look at prog and how everyone cries about everything there, but Cimo doesn't give a shit about it.
@@reydragon2597then people would bitch about Lab steamrolling for 4 weeks
This was better for the series overall, doesn't matter if some people throw a fit regardless
without the extra bans, I'm sure both Doug and Farfa would have gone after Lab rather than the one-ofs for Extra deck mons. DPE and Rexterm are good, but the small engines they run can be bricy or hard to find. That'd be better for the series, but what's done is done. @@MiyaoMeow588
The difference is the people who complained the first time are fine with it the people who were fine with it last time are now complaining. However seeing the like to dislike ratio the first camp is larger
"Im just happy to be here :D"
Man as much as smugly winning gage is infuriating(a good trait as a heel) in Progression, I love this dude here, he's just such a nice fella. Id let him watch my pets in my absence.
Don’t see why it was needed. It happens when you put all your eggs in one basket. So why the extra bans? Feels like it defeats the purpose of a ban list if dosent heavily impact the game somehow
25:15 Crusty Ted, for those who remember
I'm so late to the party, but I dont agree with Gage being able to ban Regulus. Even out the bans if you want, but it should've been limited to cards that Dzeef owned PRE banlist. Because if Regulus had already been banned when he pulled his packs, he wouldnt have gone into that secret pack. It puts Dzeef a week behind everyone else, who got to spend a week rebuilding a collection he is JUST NOW having to start rebuilding.
Farfa legit looks like Tenzin from Korra in that thumbnail wow
Would love to have some Forbidden Memories songs play during some episodes. Would be amazing!
People keep saying Gage was punished for tunneling but Farfa opened the Striker/Mathmech pack more than Gage opened Lab, and he's also still playing it post banlist. Gage also had DPE/Rexterm banned. If there were only 2 bans he would either keep both of them, or at least Rex + an extra Lab card. Him getting the extra bans makes things more fair, but he's still worse off than if the bans functioned as normal. Boneless Mathmech has a good chance of going 6-0 over the next 3 weeks if Farfa keeps playing it. Honestly even his Shaddolls are better than anything the other two have left/could reasonably pull from 10 secret packs.
Gage pulled Floowondereeze after playing Lab really scared me for a moment
Lowkey every week i kinda feel Crush Cards is getting increasingly exasperated with those three.
Gage channeling MBT luck in these pulls. I gotta give props for him keeping so positive, I'd be malding MUCH harder.
look Im one of the biggest Gage simps out there tbh, but in the spirit of fairness, letting gage get these extra bans after the banning after an episode already went through with the bans is too OP. We got to see how the initial bans impacted the decks and getting to ban more things after that is way more powerful than something like farfa and doug deciding mutually one of his banned cards to get back. Not to mention he banned a card pulled (crafted technically I guess) AFTER the banning. Just me yapping without even seeing past the intro so far no idea how it actually plays out, but age of Gage forever nonethelessp
Giving gage more bans instead of reversing the bans is pretty based