I'm a crane operator.. So a couple of years ago i got back into RC as a tool to keep my professional responsibilities sharp! Plus it's great therapy.. SO after seeing a lot of whos who out there. It amazes me how dedicated y'all are! You're talking through your every move that's good. And I know how "on it" that camera is!! My first burd was F-15 little E flight 64 just to see if I still had what it takes.. now got an Avery full thanks for the help.. keep it up..
Always having a good time watching your uploads. Love the music. That F-15 is a beast. Is this the beautiful bird you had the close call with going behind a building? My heart almost stopped on that video.
Haha, thanks man! It's nice to hear someone compliment the music choice. I figure Ace Combat music should go well with jets, especially if it's kept low in the background as not to overtake the sound of the jet. This is indeed the same model that went behind the hangar.
Wait a minute I just noticed the name changed on the channel. Hey I like it. Thanks for sharing as always Jon without the H. You are an awesome Pilot buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zeee is the brand I'm talking about. SMCs use better materials and construction allowing them to kick out sustained voltage. They're basically some of the best batteries on the market right now.
Thanks David! SMC-racing.com is where you can find the batteries I'm using. The C rating isn't low - they use actual battery data to derive how the packs will perform. What you're considering low outperforms every other pack I've flown. :)
@@TwoBrosRC thanks. I’m going to give them a try based on your recommendation. I have been very happy with Zeees for years. They outperform my Roaring Tops and other top brands. Never had one puff either. But I’m always open to change.
If you only have 1 transmitter but a bunch of jets do you just take the receiver out of 1 and put in another or is it better to put receiver in each one? sorry new to this😀
Thanks Don! Much obliged. The format of the F-22 vid you're referencing was a tutorial. We haven't made one of those in a while but will likely do so in the near future. Cheers!
@@TwoBrosRC ok Jon I sent a small donation but not the smallest Lol if u can get to that review of the p15 Lippish that would be fun run the hell out of it Lol it's a very inexpensive model so if u crash it no great loss
That’s a beautiful model. The AB is sweet, including the blue stuff. Great detail and size. I like the 9 blade’s whistle. The old F-15 looks pretty geriatric out there. It flies old too, with accelerated stalls rolling the jet hard more like a low performance wing. I don’t think the designers could decide if rate or radius was the future, so they made a jet that does everything well, but nothing great. That’s a bad approach IMO, air to air demands a first place finish or an early separation, not consistently getting on the podium. The pilot needs a lethal advantage, somewhere. Even in RC land, you can see how the Viper would keep ripping around the circle in a rate fight, and the F-15 would be stuck rowing it’s draggy big planform wing. Just a matter of time. In 1967, it seems that optimizing big thrust to weight fighters through the two circle fight wasn’t well understood. Could you imagine taking a piston engine two circle, or a weak Gen 1/2 jet? A radius fight would be the better option against a modern fighter, but it’s a serious bummer have to cash in all your chips and do everything perfectly for one fleeting squeeze on the gun, or, if the other guy is just as good: to find parity. Then it comes down to who has more gas. No thanks. That’s why real world ROE drives 2:1 numbers before accepting a merge. So there goes the more expensive jet idea. Erich Hartmann said, the answer is lots of small single engine fighters. We don’t listen. That said, it’s a Striker’s world, today. Dogfighting for sport will (ok, should) get you fired. Gorgeous model.
It's definitely an old jet, but it has such an iconic presence to it. I really want to see someone tackle the F-15 ACTIVE and have that set up in radio controlled form. I've considered experimenting with mine to do it - all it needs are F/A-18 stabilators and a pair of servos to control the stab-canards.
@@TwoBrosRC Yeah the ACTIVE tail number started with 71 which shows how old the Eagle is. Even in the early 90s when they tested this thing, the USAF was already over extreme vectored thrust maneuverability, as the F-117 had secretly revealed the future of aerial warfare: single element strike. The F-35 still has plenty of issues, but the concept was spot on. The F-22 was stillborn at the end of the dedicated A/A Fighter era. Man, the Air Force tried to kill it before production, but like the Grinch, no matter what they did, they could not keep Christmas from coming. The AF finally had to destroy the tooling at 186 built, as the Lockheed-Martin political machine is formidable. With the emerging power of USSF, these airplanes are all going to be relegated to airshow duty, sooner than later. It’s almost funny that we always come back to dropping rocks from the high ground. It just gets higher. Maybe you could link the existing elevator servos to some canards using the opposite servo arm? Or using another ball on the same arm, if the control surface linkage is on the bottom instead of the top of the stab? Basically, the easy button would be to make them swing opposite each other. But it would be more interesting to play with an independent canard channel, or two more channels.
I'd have to do some extensive rework to the intakes to make canards function. I'm thinking that I'd have to run servos into the airbrake area for it to work. Not sure it's worth the effort.
@@TwoBrosRC Those canards have that high dihedral to deposit the high energy vortex on top of the main wing, too. Adds complexity to replicate. But you could always run them as conventional canards, too.
IM at a crossroads with flying. IM not too impressed with edf foam jets in general, even if you get better power systems they still dont have the power too keep me interested. The foam large scale stunt planes have gobs of power. IM thinking of giving flex innovations edf jets a whirl. If they are anything like they're stunt planes it will be awesome
@@dbirds21 You want some crazy maneuvers in foam jets? Freewing Jas-39 Gripen with Thrust Vectoring. Or, maybe the Freewing MiG 29 or 35 with 3D thrust vectoring (not 3D as in flying 3D but 3D as in the TV nozzles can control pitch, yaw, and roll.)
good batteries yes!! Ive always used thunder power 12s for my rc helicopters and tthey rock, light and powerful but expensive. Do you fly the eflite 70mm f16 tbirds? I just put mine in the air and its a slug. I use graupner tx and never had a issue with lack of power. Its pathetic on 6s. It sure doesnt fit what the flight reviewer's say about it. THats the only issue I have with jets is they are all underpowered. THe su35 isnt known as a fast jet but for me its hands down the fastest most powerful edf made stock
I don't really chase speed with jets. I'm more concerned with their aerobatic performance. A jet that can't do tight loops but can go fast is kind of boring to me.
@@TwoBrosRC IM with you on that thats exactly why I love the su 35. Its the best trickster jet out there bbut it also has speed. trickster jets are much better when they have powwwwaaaa which translates to speed.
Wow man, thank you so much! Every little bit counts, especially as our next big investment into the channel will be a first person view drone system to chase the planes.
There's nothing to be sorry for - I've repeatedly mentioned in the past few videos that the Panasonic camera isn't up to our standards and that we sent it back for a new Sony AX53.
Keep making awesome videos! I know 2 bucks doesn't do anything but we in the rc community really appreciate these videos.
Thanks man! Really appreciate the support.
As usual excellent flying.
I'm a crane operator.. So a couple of years ago i got back into RC as a tool to keep my professional responsibilities sharp! Plus it's great therapy.. SO after seeing a lot of whos who out there. It amazes me how dedicated y'all are! You're talking through your every move that's good. And I know how "on it" that camera is!! My first burd was F-15 little E flight 64 just to see if I still had what it takes.. now got an Avery full thanks for the help.. keep it up..
Good flying and camera work!
Another quality video chock full of great flying and video coverage! Hope the donation helps!
Absolutely it does , thank you so much Jay! ❤️
Always having a good time watching your uploads. Love the music. That F-15 is a beast. Is this the beautiful bird you had the close call with going behind a building? My heart almost stopped on that video.
Haha, thanks man! It's nice to hear someone compliment the music choice. I figure Ace Combat music should go well with jets, especially if it's kept low in the background as not to overtake the sound of the jet. This is indeed the same model that went behind the hangar.
Love the afterburner man
Bad ass plane
Wait a minute I just noticed the name changed on the channel. Hey I like it. Thanks for sharing as always Jon without the H. You are an awesome Pilot buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol the chicken's
Awesome jet 👏
Ordered my first smc pack, ready to see what the performance change will be!
I'm sure you'll notice a performance difference if you're measuring voltage. 100% guaranteed.
what are the z pack you keep referring too? what's makes the SMCs better?
Zeee is the brand I'm talking about. SMCs use better materials and construction allowing them to kick out sustained voltage. They're basically some of the best batteries on the market right now.
Great flying. I don’t see a link to the batteries? And you are ok with the low c rating?
Thanks David! SMC-racing.com is where you can find the batteries I'm using. The C rating isn't low - they use actual battery data to derive how the packs will perform. What you're considering low outperforms every other pack I've flown. :)
@@TwoBrosRC thanks. I’m going to give them a try based on your recommendation. I have been very happy with Zeees for years. They outperform my Roaring Tops and other top brands. Never had one puff either. But I’m always open to change.
If you only have 1 transmitter but a bunch of jets do you just take the receiver out of 1 and put in another or is it better to put receiver in each one? sorry new to this😀
One transmitter with many receivers is usually how it's done.
Another great video but I liked the F-22 video format a bit more. I sent a donation via Paypal. Thanks!
Thanks Don! Much obliged. The format of the F-22 vid you're referencing was a tutorial. We haven't made one of those in a while but will likely do so in the near future. Cheers!
@@TwoBrosRC Looking forward to it!
It appears the chickens are playing chicken!
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Can I ask what gyro setup you’re using? Is it one of the AS3X spektrum receivers?
Yes, it's an AR10360T.
Can you review the p15 lippish from motion rc I know it's too small for your preference but it's the Edf I fly the most ,...it's indestructible
If you'd like for me to review something that I'm generally not considering as a model to fly, a donation would be appreciated. ;)
@@TwoBrosRC ok Jon I sent a small donation but not the smallest Lol if u can get to that review of the p15 Lippish that would be fun run the hell out of it Lol it's a very inexpensive model so if u crash it no great loss
Still never understood why bandai never gave us the custom skin option and more maps after release in ac7
That’s a beautiful model. The AB is sweet, including the blue stuff. Great detail and size. I like the 9 blade’s whistle.
The old F-15 looks pretty geriatric out there. It flies old too, with accelerated stalls rolling the jet hard more like a low performance wing. I don’t think the designers could decide if rate or radius was the future, so they made a jet that does everything well, but nothing great. That’s a bad approach IMO, air to air demands a first place finish or an early separation, not consistently getting on the podium. The pilot needs a lethal advantage, somewhere.
Even in RC land, you can see how the Viper would keep ripping around the circle in a rate fight, and the F-15 would be stuck rowing it’s draggy big planform wing. Just a matter of time. In 1967, it seems that optimizing big thrust to weight fighters through the two circle fight wasn’t well understood. Could you imagine taking a piston engine two circle, or a weak Gen 1/2 jet?
A radius fight would be the better option against a modern fighter, but it’s a serious bummer have to cash in all your chips and do everything perfectly for one fleeting squeeze on the gun, or, if the other guy is just as good: to find parity. Then it comes down to who has more gas. No thanks.
That’s why real world ROE drives 2:1 numbers before accepting a merge. So there goes the more expensive jet idea. Erich Hartmann said, the answer is lots of small single engine fighters. We don’t listen.
That said, it’s a Striker’s world, today. Dogfighting for sport will (ok, should) get you fired. Gorgeous model.
It's definitely an old jet, but it has such an iconic presence to it. I really want to see someone tackle the F-15 ACTIVE and have that set up in radio controlled form. I've considered experimenting with mine to do it - all it needs are F/A-18 stabilators and a pair of servos to control the stab-canards.
@@TwoBrosRC
Yeah the ACTIVE tail number started with 71 which shows how old the Eagle is. Even in the early 90s when they tested this thing, the USAF was already over extreme vectored thrust maneuverability, as the F-117 had secretly revealed the future of aerial warfare: single element strike. The F-35 still has plenty of issues, but the concept was spot on. The F-22 was stillborn at the end of the dedicated A/A Fighter era. Man, the Air Force tried to kill it before production, but like the Grinch, no matter what they did, they could not keep Christmas from coming. The AF finally had to destroy the tooling at 186 built, as the Lockheed-Martin political machine is formidable.
With the emerging power of USSF, these airplanes are all going to be relegated to airshow duty, sooner than later. It’s almost funny that we always come back to dropping rocks from the high ground. It just gets higher.
Maybe you could link the existing elevator servos to some canards using the opposite servo arm? Or using another ball on the same arm, if the control surface linkage is on the bottom instead of the top of the stab?
Basically, the easy button would be to make them swing opposite each other. But it would be more interesting to play with an independent canard channel, or two more channels.
I'd have to do some extensive rework to the intakes to make canards function. I'm thinking that I'd have to run servos into the airbrake area for it to work. Not sure it's worth the effort.
@@TwoBrosRC
Those canards have that high dihedral to deposit the high energy vortex on top of the main wing, too. Adds complexity to replicate. But you could always run them as conventional canards, too.
imho none of the current edf foam jets perform well and they all suck on power. My foam 3d stunt planes will fly circles around these jets.
Hey there, the discord link isn't working anymore. Can you repost it?
Try this one!
discord.gg/vcJfqtEVFx
I noticed the gulf spirit sicker on he side , are you flying in florida?
Jon is from Florida. The channel is in Raleigh, NC though.
Slowing it down on RUclips to .075 makes almost makes it look like a real one...
It's real, just isn't really big 😉
IM at a crossroads with flying. IM not too impressed with edf foam jets in general, even if you get better power systems they still dont have the power too keep me interested. The foam large scale stunt planes have gobs of power. IM thinking of giving flex innovations edf jets a whirl. If they are anything like they're stunt planes it will be awesome
You might want to temper your expectations. Jets fly like jets. They're not designed to be stunt aircraft.
@@TwoBrosRC they are not but power equals stick banging, stick banging equals fun.
@@dbirds21 You want some crazy maneuvers in foam jets? Freewing Jas-39 Gripen with Thrust Vectoring. Or, maybe the Freewing MiG 29 or 35 with 3D thrust vectoring (not 3D as in flying 3D but 3D as in the TV nozzles can control pitch, yaw, and roll.)
@@aerospacematt9147 thanks. I've had all of those. The one I keep is the su35. Nothing comes close in performance to the 35
Are the SMC packs better then Spectrum battery's
100%, absolutely. The RC Groups battery testing proved this.
where can i buy it? and how much?
MotionRC, and roughly $600.
good batteries yes!! Ive always used thunder power 12s for my rc helicopters and tthey rock, light and powerful but expensive. Do you fly the eflite 70mm f16 tbirds? I just put mine in the air and its a slug. I use graupner tx and never had a issue with lack of power. Its pathetic on 6s. It sure doesnt fit what the flight reviewer's say about it. THats the only issue I have with jets is they are all underpowered. THe su35 isnt known as a fast jet but for me its hands down the fastest most powerful edf made stock
I don't really chase speed with jets. I'm more concerned with their aerobatic performance. A jet that can't do tight loops but can go fast is kind of boring to me.
@@TwoBrosRC IM with you on that thats exactly why I love the su 35. Its the best trickster jet out there bbut it also has speed. trickster jets are much better when they have powwwwaaaa which translates to speed.
Is that stock from Motion RC ?
Definitely isn't stock. The only major change is running D-85MGs in the stabilators.
@@TwoBrosRC what power system is in yours I like the way it flew I upgraded mine to the 8’s
@@RCPlaneNut It's the stock ESC and motor combination.
@@TwoBrosRC wow great thanks
I just did it. I ordered the castle lite edge 75 for my f16 70mm so I can run 8s. 6s is a dog in this jet. way to slow
Enjoy!
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Wow man, thank you so much! Every little bit counts, especially as our next big investment into the channel will be a first person view drone system to chase the planes.
Zoom out a bit would be way better
Tony does zoom out a bit but there's no point to it a lot of the time because all you'd see is a pixel in the distance.
@@TwoBrosRC watch westhobys rc way better perspective just my opinion but love your channel
I think your hat cam is better
Sorry but the video from the new camera was very disappointing.
There's nothing to be sorry for - I've repeatedly mentioned in the past few videos that the Panasonic camera isn't up to our standards and that we sent it back for a new Sony AX53.