the brawl boss has permanently engrained the phrases "i'm fully armoured moron." and "i'm a tank, you're a truck, how do you expect to beat me?" into my mind
Ngl, when I first played this game as a, I think, 8 year old, I actually shed tears at the death of the custom character. It was pretty much my first time witnessing the canonical death of a playable character and it really got to me.
I think one thing the Autobots version of the game has that kind of makes up for its lack of a unique plot (compared to the Decepticons version) is its exploration of one theme: the tragedies and horrors of war. The writers were on to something when Create-A-Bot mentions that he's never actually seen Cybertron, but wishes to. This tells us the war has become so bad that the younger generation of Cybertronians has never even known a life on what's supposed to be their home world, let alone a life not centered around a hellish civil war that endured for millennia. And unlike the Decepticon custom character, the Autobot one is a genuine good guy, so the player can easily sympathize with Create-A-Bot. Also, the bombs on the dam? If it didn't quite hit you the atrocity it is when playing as the Decepticons, it will when you play as the Autobots. Now, the writers certainly could have hammered in this theme more (and for this reason I still prefer the plot of the Decepticons version), but at least what we got was better than nothing.
Love this take. Never thought of it like that. I do recall that Create-A-Bot’s final words were something along the lines of finally being able to see cybertron during his sacrifice and realising that Earth was the new true home of the auto bots and only by assimilating with the humans could they be liberated from the endless war.
@@AdamNoizer Yeah. I think he meant that Earth is their new "Cybertron" (he says "It's [Cybertron] all around us, here on Earth"). Which in my opinion is bittersweet. He still never gets to see the real Cybertron, but he now thinks of Earth as basically it.
Was obsessed with this game at a young age as well, even though I was terrible at it lol. I think it was more the open world aspect that appealed to me. Love what you're doing though brings back fond memories.
this game was so hard when i was like 7 fr, there was one level where u play as bumblebee and have to chase something or drive between points and i was stuck on that for months
3:52 The Transformers DS games, including the Cybertron ones, actually play the transformation sound effect upon closing the screens. I believe this still works on emulators.
As a 7 year old kid, I could not finish the battle with Brawl. I just wasn't clever enough to hit him with the tanks. I had to put the game down for a few months and came back to it and figured it out and the feeling was pure joy.
Same here. I vividly remember how much that level pissed me off and I was so angry about it. Then one day, my brother took a swing at playing and just yeeted a truck and it worked out. I was baffled that was all I needed to do.
That stealth mission with Jazz was a nightmare for me to complete as a kid I was also mesmerized as the world opened up more and more as you completed missions. I got the auto it version first, the introduction to tranquility, hearing Optimus prime greet my character, will always hold a special place in my heart!
@@metrox_supreme it has that special play with another ds if you are in the same room as them. It’s actually pretty cool as you can play with someone who has the other version of the game.
I do appreciate how they give the Autobots so much more character and depth than the movie or even the console game did. The Decepticons version was better in that regard because of how the Decepticons were treated in the Bay films, but it’s appreciated that they try to expand the story this way by giving us more character moments for each of the bots. Stuff like Ironhide snapping at Optimus over leaving Bumblebee behind or Jazz talking with Optimus over the realization that he has to kill Megatron, and how he takes responsibility for the death of Cybertron. Stuff like that is very appreciated, especially for TF fans who would’ve been disappointed by the actual film.
something else to add on these, they are canon one with each other, at the Very beginning of each game the 2 createabot meet and have a quick talk, though in the Autobot version you kill the Decepticon 'you', and in the con version the Autobot. And all the story follows the same actions from the others but it shows the real difference your character makes in each game. Starscream lost his protégé so can't prevent Megatron from achieving his goal, therefore leaves for example. There is a lot of stuff like that that shows it's a split timeline, each version describing the story depending on which one lived at the beginning, it's super cool and makes your custom characters impact on the story that much more impactful
My mother bought me this one out of the two because it was the "good guys", I distinctly remember other kids at after school care playing the decepticon version and being jealous 🤣
Meanwhile i did have both games illegitemately on an r4 card cuz my parents were too cheap to get my any real games. Wich sucks because i don’t have the roms anymore either
@@litchtheshinigami8936 That does suck, I was fortunate enough to find my DS collection a year and a half ago in storage, forgot how many games I owned
@@MelStaubi do have most of my old physical games (mostly pokemon tho) but i do agree i forgot about some of the games i had back then like apparently i also had a game about dragons or something wich was similar to another game about dinosaurs but instead of dinos it was dragons
I loved this game so much as a kid. I hated the fact that I could not scan the jet at hover dam. Like I drove me crazy, I wanted to play the jet so bad.
Seriously, these games had secret vehicles hidden all over that you could scan and use and THAT ONE SPECIFIC PLACE YOU COULD FIND JETS wasn't one of them? It's sucks the most in the Autobot version because you're not given any other Jet form unless you do a weird Target promotional event thing.
It still amazes me that this is the most open world Transformers game. Imagine a new console remake of the Decepticon version and how epic that open world could be. That said, you ever try out the other TF DS games or plan to do videos on them? The WFC ones are fun.
@@novustalks7525 Ehh... Let's not go that far to say that... I'll say this... The DS ones you at least were able to choose which bot to beat the story with and the variety and repetitive arena missions.
I remember the first time I fought Brawl in this game. I couldn't for the LIFE of me figure out how to beat him! Then, I kid you not, I actually remember a vague dream of Prime smashing a tank on Brawl. I didn't think much of it, until I played the game again. And you know what: THAT'S what you gotta do!
I’ll never forget when I was a kid and going school. I restarted the game and was permanently stuck in protoform mode, I could transform, even though the POV was weird, unfortunately I had to switch my DS off and as soon as I turned my DS back on it went back to normal. However when I went into the “choose a vehicle” section the protoform mode was an option, it was locked though so that was a bummer, to this day I’m still confused how this happened.
Dude I was starting to think I saw this in my dreams I swear. I think I managed to get that glitch like twice at most and then never again but I was so young when I got it that my memory of it was blurry and I wasn't sure if it was actually real or if I just dreamed about it.
Happened to me too, there was so many weird glitches in that game. I had my game restart but I kept later game progress stuff if im remembering correctly in the hoover dam place from glitching through walls or something. I'm probably getting it all wrong with how long ago it was but it was something weird like that. glitched into something and it set the game back oddly after a restart.
Happened to me as well. The way you do this is by starting the game fresh, then when you get to the bit in the first level where you finish scanning the car, you have to switch off the game from the power button. Then when redoing the mission, complete it fully and you should still be the protoform in free play. Just don’t turn off the game, don’t go to the vehicle form setting, and don’t do the mission where you scan the helicopter.
iirc the Bumblebee vs Barricade battle has a funny exploit that if you knock down Barricade, you can pick him up, throw him off the side of the bridge, and instantly kill him. It's so interesting to see a deep dive into this game! I played this years ago. When I was really young, I got stuck and ended up repeating the same opening level where you fight the Create-A-Con so many times that my save had a maxed out Bot before I had started the game lol, so that kinda snapped the game balance in half
7:00 I played through both of these games so many times as a kid and it honestly never occurred to me that when Starscream told your deception Create A Bot not to waste time going to the Arctic to “chase after ghosts,” he actually intended to go there himself to confirm and potentially assassinate megatron. And so that would explain why he would be trying to kill ironhide after bumping into him searching for the same thing in the Arctic, as this was simply him eliminating any potential witnesses.
I will admit the deceptions version was definitely more fun then the Autobots. However being said I did really enjoy both games as a child and if they remastered them for Switch or reboots of those games I would enjoy playing themc
This was one of the first games i ever played on ds. I have such nostalgia for it. Really enjoyed driving around and scanning new vehicles colours. Nowadays in games things like that are locked behind microtransactions. I have a distinct memory of absolutely hating that level whwre you play as bumblebee and have to destory the turrets in the city, I failed at it so so many times as a kid. Overall nice video, thanks for the nostalgia blast from the past.
I know man, that mission was hell. I remembee trying it several times as a kid until I just gave up. A lot of time later (a couple of years, I think) I came back and finally beated that mission, and it felt truly amazing.
I quite like how the Autobot version is about fighting the Decepticons, while the Decepticon version is about fighting off your co-workers. It reminds me a lot of G1 in a very good way.
I am so glad to see videos about these games, they were awesome back in the day. A glitch I always remember is one building doesn't have proper roof collision and you can fall right into it being able to walk around in a completely enclosed area. I wish I remembered where it was.
played it before seeing the movies or knowing anything about Transformers, was an amazing surprise to see the more complex than I expected ''living alien robots'' for the first time. Then the Decepticon version blew my expectations out of the water again, loved these, Decepticon version is the best by far though
Playing the PC version was really interesting. As for it was the old games I grew up with but just looked alot better. And in the autobots version barricade does stop periodically to fight like you wanted. Also I would love to see you play the DS revenge of the fallen games, and war for Cybertron. War for Cybertron was definitly my favourite and had a very cool multiplayer where you could free rome and fight you friends with a variety of iconic characters, I would love to see you play that. Also very cool video can't wait to see more. 👍👍👍
Anyone gonna mention how infuriatingly difficult "Know Thy Enemy" is? With Jazz having to deliver the cars to Optimus while getting shot at by police and Sector 7 with no way to defend yourself???
Yes, I'm aware you can actually throw the car aside without destroying it and fight them off... but it doesn't work since the enemies never stop spawning. Idk what to do, but this mission is seriously pissing me off.
Huh, a game about multiple playable good guys fighting the bad guys who want a mcguffin that can be used for ultimate power, and use a custom character in certain levels, as well as sacrifices themself to bring peace to the world. So, Sonic Forces done right?
There's a move/glitch in the game, especially with the deceptions, where I think if you go full throttle (boost) with both jet(mainly) and car while holding L1 and R1 and simultaneously holdng the the down button at the same time you gain massive air time. Much like what you said with the deception version, this game was huge in my childhood, so I'd replay and figure out glitches and cheat codes in the game.
Another thing was that i remember that for certain forms and i believe this also counts for Brawl when you boost it seems like you actually go slower than regular driving
@@litchtheshinigami8936 yeah brawl and I can't remember who else (might even be another deceptions ds game) but boost felt like you were driving through wet cement. I think optimus prime too. There's other glitches I forgot to mention in the first comment. I think you can glitch the game into still being a protoform up until the Qatar desert level. You can even transform as a protoform but it's super bizarre. I think it is just the comet to earth render, but still, you can drive as it.
@@13thmember2 i rarely played as optimus (i only ever picked Jazz in that version) so i wouldn't know about that.. but i know for sure that Brawl was slow af
@@litchtheshinigami8936 lmao I know, I always played as Jazz and if you have the high jump cheat code, he could leap for days. But yeah Brawl's good for firepower and melee. I do like the autobots version too, but deceptions is just awesome. As the video shows lol. Only problem is if you don't have the action replay in your ds, you can't play as your jet custom characters, for both autobots and deceptions. You damn well know not many people grinded for those on whatever you had to do. So the cheat codes were the only way to get them.
@@13thmember2 i had a lot of cheat codes and most likely had that one too.. however as someone who thinks in pictures i can now just imagine him walking up then being like yeah nope jumping and just jumping to fucking china in one leap.
This was the very first DS game I remember getting. And it was, and still is one of my favorite DS games. Although, I do agree that the Decepticons version does indeed have a much better and unique story. And I wish I had gotten it when it was still available on store shelves. Now I haven't checked yet, but I'm hoping it's still available online somewhere, for a reasonable price. Oh yeah, another problem I have with the Autobots version (Idk if the Decepticons version had this or not), is that Skydive was only able to be unlocked through very specific ways. Like, if none of your friends had the other game, than you couldn't unlock it. And I didn't know how to use special codes to unlock characters back then. So I was never able to get that Jet mode. Also I'd like to mention the other 2 Transformers DS games, based off of Revenge of the fallen, and Dark of the moon. And my opinion on them. Specifically the Autobot versions, since I never got my hands on any of the Decepticon versions xD I think they were alright. They weren't nearly as good as the first game, but I think they are okay. I think the biggest problem I have with the other 2 games, is the fact that you aren't able to free-roam when not on missions Anyway, this review was pretty good! I enjoyed it!
I wonder how to unlock that jet character to I know you would have to play allspark wars for it but I wonder if there’s another way to get that jet character i don’t know
God I remember droping so many hours into this game, I remember wanting to get the jet form so badly and never being able too even after I beat the game. Great video!
This one I definitely remember playing, I do love both versions of these 2 games, brings so much nostalgia!! I’m glad someone is actually talking about these 2 versions!!! I feel like between the Autobot and Deception DS version, is very underrated compared to the actual console like Xbox, PlayStation
So nostalgic and the snowy ironhide mission caught so many hours cuz I loved loved loved the serious vibe and breaking through the doors and walking around the cave slowly was cool af to me as a kid for some reason
I remember getting this game when I was younger. I played the game religiously, the game was so good. Like dude c'mon, you could be Optimus prime AND Bumblebee in free roam?!?!? the game was amazing. Good times.
As a kid I only got all of the Deception versions of the game's because my brother brought them and I would always play it after when he wasn't looking LOL😂....Expect I got all versions of the WFC game's Nintendo and X box and it was a blast🤣🤘
I only played the Deception DS game's for the first 2 Transfomers films because that's all my brother brought....And I have to say I think the Deceptions got the more interesting stories in their game's....Most of the Autobot game's they mostly repeated the plot that the movie's were based on.....But I still want them all to be re realesed on the Nintendo Switch like what they are doing with some of the Lego game's😏🤞
Feels good to finally see someone make a video on these games I played during my childhood as well as comments from other people who loved these as well. Also 4:38 made me laugh more than it should have 😂
I uh... I never got past the tutorial in this game... I was very very young, the open world tutorial bit at the beginning kept me entertained for hours. I legit thought it was the full game as a kid.
This was the game that I picked up of the two Transformers DS games and I loved it growing up. My gripe from the last video is the same in that there really should've been an accessible Jet mode that wasn't locked behind some weird Target promotion.
Even though I prefer the Decepticons version, I can still appreciate some effort that was made on characterization. Prime being guilt ridden over Cybertron being destroyed could be felt throughout the game especially.
I loved this game when I was a kid. My brother had the Decepticons version (even though I was the only one that even likes Transformers), and we were the only people I knew that actually played the game.
Since Megatron kills your character in both versions I find it really satisfying when Optimus kills him, especially with his voice cutting out as he screams.
The one memory I have of this game is at Brawl's boss fight, where he would repeat the same line over and over and over again: ¨I'm a tank! You're a truck! How do you expect to beat me?¨ It's been stuck in my head ever since. Also the: ¨Finally some action!¨ *sigh*
14:08. I encountered a fun exploit when I did this boss battle. Somehow i was able to land on a roof lower down and Blackout got stuck against the side of the building so he couldn't fight back and I just spammed everything at him. Did have fond memories of this game. And the Decepticon version.
Not the viewpoint I expected, But I very well agree with at this age. The Autobots version was the game I got first, months before the Decepticons game, so my feeble infant mind was molded to this game. I remember the struggle with the Escort mission in the Antarctic because it was so long and boring, but It felt good to listen to the duo between you and Ironhide and bumblebee's "dialogue". Then I get the Decepticon version blows me away with Barricade. Like you said, I hold high regards to the Autobots version because I played it over two decades ago. But now it would be pretty terrible to enjoy. Thats why I had vast enjoyment to replay the Decpticon version with my little nephew cause the story seems loosely similar to a marvel comic book. Just wish I knew what the hell a Wifi was when I was a kid so I could play that Allspark wars mode. But thats what Action Replay is for. I showed my nephew the psycho cars cheat: he hated it and it was fucking funny lol.
I've got a glitch were the main character wouldn't scan correctly the first vehicle so you can get its form, having the original skin and having the same stats (or similar) to the first vehicle, and the meteor where it comes out in the cutscene as its vehicle form.
This game will remain a strong memory in my childhood, this was my first open world experience, I remember replaying the story and just destroying stuff after I finished the game. I was also sad af when my character died in the end
I remember my brother raging at the final part, then years later I beat it for him, when Megatron was at low HP and can't attack I was excited when I defeated Megatron, then the other user was stuck at chapter 12 so I face the fear of getting damaged until low health and until I got to the final chapter and beat megatron
Happy Landings took me forever to beat because I didn't even know that you could climb in this game. Felt so empty as I watched Bumblebee climb up the building and just went "Wow I am dumb"
My biggest problem with this game is the Autobots don’t act like hero’s you can go on a car crushing spree killing countless civilians in free roam while in the missions you mainly fight against Sector 7 who are just soldiers protecting there country (you work with them in the Arctic missions but afterwards your enemies again) and none of the Autobots show any regret for all the humans they kill which makes the ending completely nonsensical as Prime says Autobots need humans and vice versa but the Autobots have been slaughtering humans for the whole game without ever trying to get in contact with the leader of sector 7 to explain what there intentions are so humanity is still at war with Cybertronians after the ending
I remember there was a glitch in the final boss where sometimes you play as your custom charactor instead of optimus, you could just cheese the boss fight basically by flying above him.
this video popped up in my recommendeds and i loved these games as a kid. I got autobots and my brother got decepticons and we took turns beating the 2 games. But also wanted to point out that I do believe Optimus does mention they wanted to find the allspark to rebuild cybertron in the opening monologue in the movie.
Man i came from your Transformer Decepticon video: Pretty good¡ Im in love with this games. They came on my R4 for my ds and i had a blast. I like it a lot. Even with the nostalgia that i have, decepticon had a great story. I never completed that story so that finale shocked me. I hope they revisit this games and make an HD remake with a branching story. PLEEEEASE
Loved this game as a kid. I would play hide and seek version of death match with my friends but when you found someone you had to ragdoll them with the missiles so if you were fast enough you could just run around dodging rockets the whole time
You should do the revenge of the fallen games! The deception version was really good!!! You could cheese all the boss fights as the fastest character type by running around the arena and circle shooting the boss, because they could not turn fast enough to shoot you so it was just running in circles and killing them.
I just found your channel and my god your editing style is fucking hilarious. Not only do you make the content interesting to watch but you make it funny as well.
I remember being stuck on the brawl vs prime mission for weeks as a kid because I didn't know how to beat brawl in the second half of the fight, thought the game was broken, cuz I couldn't damage him, until I got really mad and just randomly picked up a tank and hit him with it. As soon as his health went down a bit my eyes lit up and screamed like an idiot.
I commented on the other video saying I played Decepticons a ton as a kid. I actually played this one. I played on an R4 and me and my best friend loved it, however the Decepticons rom was buggy and we never got to see the story of that one. Great games.
Yeah i defenitely had a similar issue.. some of the parts seemed to be bugged to a point where i couldn’t do some of the missions as i should.. in the end i just used the unlock all thing wich skipped to the end of the game because i mostly enjoyed just dicking around in the overworld.. on both versions.
DS was such a massive part in a lot of kids' lives. I played tons of pokemon on it and a few obscure games like Monster Tale and Henry Hatsworth. Great to see the positive impact it had on people.
Bro the Brawl battle was insane, me and my brother were stock in there like for 4 years, because the game was in english (my firte language is Spanish) and I never understood what is happening
once again.... i loved this game just like the decepticon game. i only intended to watch a couple seconds to get this vid in my history playlist but i ended up watching the whole thing without even realizing.
I remembered playing this game on my friends DS when camping and played it from start to finish in one sitting. Then I got myself a DS and found the Decepticon campaign and the differences between the two DS games(along with the PS3 movie tie in, but less about that) is different from follow the movie to follow the movie slightly less. I will say that you never really got into the scan feature with it being the big stand out with these games in that as the self-insert you can be almost every vehicle in the game with there own stats for both there vehicle and robot modes along with different weapons.
I remember as a kid me and my best friend got a DS each. This was my favourite as I absolutely love transformers and I bought the autobot version... I convinced my mate to get the decepticon edition.. he'd play my version to play Optimus but I'd play his version just to fly as starscream. Fucking heaven
You forgot to mention that the best part about the tag team mission with Bumblebee is that friendly fire is enabled, so you can actually kill him yourself, even before the boss fight.
the brawl boss has permanently engrained the phrases "i'm fully armoured moron." and "i'm a tank, you're a truck, how do you expect to beat me?" into my mind
That second phrase is burned into me
Yeah I'm honestly surprised the transformers don't just use the HUNDREDS of military veichals they can base themselves on.
You forgot
"Oh I'm going to enjoy stripping you down part by part"
Hardest level in the game bruh.
@@Venom3254 to that one the only valid response would be: joke’s on you i’m into that shit
Ngl, when I first played this game as a, I think, 8 year old, I actually shed tears at the death of the custom character. It was pretty much my first time witnessing the canonical death of a playable character and it really got to me.
My reaction was just pure confusion and disbelief 😂
Same
I was about the same age and so did I
I think one thing the Autobots version of the game has that kind of makes up for its lack of a unique plot (compared to the Decepticons version) is its exploration of one theme: the tragedies and horrors of war. The writers were on to something when Create-A-Bot mentions that he's never actually seen Cybertron, but wishes to. This tells us the war has become so bad that the younger generation of Cybertronians has never even known a life on what's supposed to be their home world, let alone a life not centered around a hellish civil war that endured for millennia. And unlike the Decepticon custom character, the Autobot one is a genuine good guy, so the player can easily sympathize with Create-A-Bot. Also, the bombs on the dam? If it didn't quite hit you the atrocity it is when playing as the Decepticons, it will when you play as the Autobots. Now, the writers certainly could have hammered in this theme more (and for this reason I still prefer the plot of the Decepticons version), but at least what we got was better than nothing.
Love this take. Never thought of it like that. I do recall that Create-A-Bot’s final words were something along the lines of finally being able to see cybertron during his sacrifice and realising that Earth was the new true home of the auto bots and only by assimilating with the humans could they be liberated from the endless war.
@@AdamNoizer Yeah. I think he meant that Earth is their new "Cybertron" (he says "It's [Cybertron] all around us, here on Earth"). Which in my opinion is bittersweet. He still never gets to see the real Cybertron, but he now thinks of Earth as basically it.
I played both as a kid. Can’t imagine how much time I actually put into it.
As a kid, Happy Landings was my first experience with a level that I just could not beat back in the day. When I finally beat it, I was so happy.
I gave up trying to beat that level. until I got the game again since I lost it awhile back haha.
that's why it's called happy landings
bro I HATED HAPPY LANDINGS
It took me years to beat Happy Landings. I beat the final level first try but I couldn't not beat happy landings.
Was obsessed with this game at a young age as well, even though I was terrible at it lol. I think it was more the open world aspect that appealed to me. Love what you're doing though brings back fond memories.
Same here, this was the first game I ever played, and is probably the reason why I love open world games so much
@@javery8892 oh man, same here. This was the first game that I truly played, and the open world(s) just seemed so huge and amazing.
I thought I was the only one
this game was so hard when i was like 7 fr, there was one level where u play as bumblebee and have to chase something or drive between points and i was stuck on that for months
@@vain.a same here!! In fact, I believe that's as far I got up to in the campaign. Such a difficult and frustrating mission
3:52 The Transformers DS games, including the Cybertron ones, actually play the transformation sound effect upon closing the screens. I believe this still works on emulators.
As a 7 year old kid, I could not finish the battle with Brawl. I just wasn't clever enough to hit him with the tanks. I had to put the game down for a few months and came back to it and figured it out and the feeling was pure joy.
Me but with megatron
That honestly made no sense as a way to beating Brawl. Especially since Ironhide is able to beat up Brawl in Tank Mode
Same here. I vividly remember how much that level pissed me off and I was so angry about it. Then one day, my brother took a swing at playing and just yeeted a truck and it worked out. I was baffled that was all I needed to do.
That stealth mission with Jazz was a nightmare for me to complete as a kid
I was also mesmerized as the world opened up more and more as you completed missions. I got the auto it version first, the introduction to tranquility, hearing Optimus prime greet my character, will always hold a special place in my heart!
Now we need a video with the full multiplayer breakdown. With tierlist, strats, metas and easter eggs
*_would be nice but the multiplayer is dead beacuse servers are down_*
@@metrox_supreme It has no local multiplayer?
Multiplayer honestly should have been scrapped
@@metrox_supreme it has that special play with another ds if you are in the same room as them. It’s actually pretty cool as you can play with someone who has the other version of the game.
I do appreciate how they give the Autobots so much more character and depth than the movie or even the console game did. The Decepticons version was better in that regard because of how the Decepticons were treated in the Bay films, but it’s appreciated that they try to expand the story this way by giving us more character moments for each of the bots. Stuff like Ironhide snapping at Optimus over leaving Bumblebee behind or Jazz talking with Optimus over the realization that he has to kill Megatron, and how he takes responsibility for the death of Cybertron. Stuff like that is very appreciated, especially for TF fans who would’ve been disappointed by the actual film.
I'm glad that at least someone still recognises and acknowledges the ds Transformers games. By far one of the best I've played
10:54 "Random Decepticon goon" looks exactly like the Decepticon game's man character as a Stealth Chopper, which was my favorite form.
it’s not even a random goon it’s literally blackout lol
@@unclehotbuns3005 The bot at the timestamp I mentioned isn't Blackout, his model is way different. This one kinda looks like a cyclops
oh damn yeah you’re right, they should have made him some other cool vehicle we haven’t seen. hearse deception could be badass js
It's the best form
My head canon is it's Shockwave since the body design is the same as the 2007 console game, not like the game story is canon to the movies so why not.
something else to add on these, they are canon one with each other, at the Very beginning of each game the 2 createabot meet and have a quick talk, though in the Autobot version you kill the Decepticon 'you', and in the con version the Autobot. And all the story follows the same actions from the others but it shows the real difference your character makes in each game. Starscream lost his protégé so can't prevent Megatron from achieving his goal, therefore leaves for example. There is a lot of stuff like that that shows it's a split timeline, each version describing the story depending on which one lived at the beginning, it's super cool and makes your custom characters impact on the story that much more impactful
My mother bought me this one out of the two because it was the "good guys", I distinctly remember other kids at after school care playing the decepticon version and being jealous 🤣
Meanwhile i did have both games illegitemately on an r4 card cuz my parents were too cheap to get my any real games. Wich sucks because i don’t have the roms anymore either
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That does suck, I was fortunate enough to find my DS collection a year and a half ago in storage, forgot how many games I owned
@@MelStaubi do have most of my old physical games (mostly pokemon tho) but i do agree i forgot about some of the games i had back then like apparently i also had a game about dragons or something wich was similar to another game about dinosaurs but instead of dinos it was dragons
I loved this game so much as a kid. I hated the fact that I could not scan the jet at hover dam. Like I drove me crazy, I wanted to play the jet so bad.
Same.. i was like IT’S A JET WHY DO IT NOT WORK
Bro damn I felt that!
i was always looking for cheats to get the jet, it was like a dream that never came true...
@@xtek200 ha same.. since i had the games on R4 card i was like WHY IS THERE A SKIP STORY CHEAT AND NOT AN UNLOCK ALL
Seriously, these games had secret vehicles hidden all over that you could scan and use and THAT ONE SPECIFIC PLACE YOU COULD FIND JETS wasn't one of them?
It's sucks the most in the Autobot version because you're not given any other Jet form unless you do a weird Target promotional event thing.
It still amazes me that this is the most open world Transformers game. Imagine a new console remake of the Decepticon version and how epic that open world could be. That said, you ever try out the other TF DS games or plan to do videos on them? The WFC ones are fun.
WFC DS is arguably better than the console versions too
@@novustalks7525 Ehh... Let's not go that far to say that...
I'll say this... The DS ones you at least were able to choose which bot to beat the story with and the variety and repetitive arena missions.
@@Venom3254 the weapon system was better too.
Maybe a remake with both versions?
@@novustalks7525 Yeah I wouldn't say that, but it was still a blast with some unique designs that I'd love some toys of.
I remember when I played this as a kid 👍
hey its great to see you on another one of my videos! these games were truly ahead of their time
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I remember the first time I fought Brawl in this game. I couldn't for the LIFE of me figure out how to beat him! Then, I kid you not, I actually remember a vague dream of Prime smashing a tank on Brawl. I didn't think much of it, until I played the game again. And you know what: THAT'S what you gotta do!
3:50 I wish they made it so that the DS made a transforming sound when you opened/closed the DS lid
I’ll never forget when I was a kid and going school. I restarted the game and was permanently stuck in protoform mode, I could transform, even though the POV was weird, unfortunately I had to switch my DS off and as soon as I turned my DS back on it went back to normal. However when I went into the “choose a vehicle” section the protoform mode was an option, it was locked though so that was a bummer, to this day I’m still confused how this happened.
Dude I was starting to think I saw this in my dreams I swear. I think I managed to get that glitch like twice at most and then never again but I was so young when I got it that my memory of it was blurry and I wasn't sure if it was actually real or if I just dreamed about it.
Happened to me too, there was so many weird glitches in that game. I had my game restart but I kept later game progress stuff if im remembering correctly in the hoover dam place from glitching through walls or something. I'm probably getting it all wrong with how long ago it was but it was something weird like that. glitched into something and it set the game back oddly after a restart.
@@clementcachico5240 NAH EXACTLY I THOUGHT I WAS DREAMING TOO 😭
Happened to me as well. The way you do this is by starting the game fresh, then when you get to the bit in the first level where you finish scanning the car, you have to switch off the game from the power button. Then when redoing the mission, complete it fully and you should still be the protoform in free play.
Just don’t turn off the game, don’t go to the vehicle form setting, and don’t do the mission where you scan the helicopter.
Glad I wasnt the only one haha
iirc the Bumblebee vs Barricade battle has a funny exploit that if you knock down Barricade, you can pick him up, throw him off the side of the bridge, and instantly kill him.
It's so interesting to see a deep dive into this game! I played this years ago. When I was really young, I got stuck and ended up repeating the same opening level where you fight the Create-A-Con so many times that my save had a maxed out Bot before I had started the game lol, so that kinda snapped the game balance in half
7:00 I played through both of these games so many times as a kid and it honestly never occurred to me that when Starscream told your deception Create A Bot not to waste time going to the Arctic to “chase after ghosts,” he actually intended to go there himself to confirm and potentially assassinate megatron. And so that would explain why he would be trying to kill ironhide after bumping into him searching for the same thing in the Arctic, as this was simply him eliminating any potential witnesses.
I will admit the deceptions version was definitely more fun then the Autobots. However being said I did really enjoy both games as a child and if they remastered them for Switch or reboots of those games I would enjoy playing themc
This was one of the first games i ever played on ds. I have such nostalgia for it. Really enjoyed driving around and scanning new vehicles colours. Nowadays in games things like that are locked behind microtransactions. I have a distinct memory of absolutely hating that level whwre you play as bumblebee and have to destory the turrets in the city, I failed at it so so many times as a kid. Overall nice video, thanks for the nostalgia blast from the past.
I know man, that mission was hell. I remembee trying it several times as a kid until I just gave up. A lot of time later (a couple of years, I think) I came back and finally beated that mission, and it felt truly amazing.
I quite like how the Autobot version is about fighting the Decepticons, while the Decepticon version is about fighting off your co-workers. It reminds me a lot of G1 in a very good way.
I am so glad to see videos about these games, they were awesome back in the day. A glitch I always remember is one building doesn't have proper roof collision and you can fall right into it being able to walk around in a completely enclosed area. I wish I remembered where it was.
played it before seeing the movies or knowing anything about Transformers, was an amazing surprise to see the more complex than I expected ''living alien robots'' for the first time. Then the Decepticon version blew my expectations out of the water again, loved these, Decepticon version is the best by far though
I pulled out my Nintendo 3DS just to watch this video on it
Playing the PC version was really interesting. As for it was the old games I grew up with but just looked alot better. And in the autobots version barricade does stop periodically to fight like you wanted. Also I would love to see you play the DS revenge of the fallen games, and war for Cybertron. War for Cybertron was definitly my favourite and had a very cool multiplayer where you could free rome and fight you friends with a variety of iconic characters, I would love to see you play that. Also very cool video can't wait to see more. 👍👍👍
Anyone gonna mention how infuriatingly difficult "Know Thy Enemy" is? With Jazz having to deliver the cars to Optimus while getting shot at by police and Sector 7 with no way to defend yourself???
Yes, I'm aware you can actually throw the car aside without destroying it and fight them off... but it doesn't work since the enemies never stop spawning. Idk what to do, but this mission is seriously pissing me off.
Huh, a game about multiple playable good guys fighting the bad guys who want a mcguffin that can be used for ultimate power, and use a custom character in certain levels, as well as sacrifices themself to bring peace to the world.
So, Sonic Forces done right?
There's a move/glitch in the game, especially with the deceptions, where I think if you go full throttle (boost) with both jet(mainly) and car while holding L1 and R1 and simultaneously holdng the the down button at the same time you gain massive air time. Much like what you said with the deception version, this game was huge in my childhood, so I'd replay and figure out glitches and cheat codes in the game.
Another thing was that i remember that for certain forms and i believe this also counts for Brawl when you boost it seems like you actually go slower than regular driving
@@litchtheshinigami8936 yeah brawl and I can't remember who else (might even be another deceptions ds game) but boost felt like you were driving through wet cement. I think optimus prime too. There's other glitches I forgot to mention in the first comment. I think you can glitch the game into still being a protoform up until the Qatar desert level. You can even transform as a protoform but it's super bizarre. I think it is just the comet to earth render, but still, you can drive as it.
@@13thmember2 i rarely played as optimus (i only ever picked Jazz in that version) so i wouldn't know about that.. but i know for sure that Brawl was slow af
@@litchtheshinigami8936 lmao I know, I always played as Jazz and if you have the high jump cheat code, he could leap for days. But yeah Brawl's good for firepower and melee. I do like the autobots version too, but deceptions is just awesome. As the video shows lol. Only problem is if you don't have the action replay in your ds, you can't play as your jet custom characters, for both autobots and deceptions. You damn well know not many people grinded for those on whatever you had to do. So the cheat codes were the only way to get them.
@@13thmember2 i had a lot of cheat codes and most likely had that one too.. however as someone who thinks in pictures i can now just imagine him walking up then being like yeah nope jumping and just jumping to fucking china in one leap.
3:39 Beatles reference
Man. I rebought both games in 2020 for nostalgia sake and have not regretted it
This was the very first DS game I remember getting. And it was, and still is one of my favorite DS games. Although, I do agree that the Decepticons version does indeed have a much better and unique story. And I wish I had gotten it when it was still available on store shelves.
Now I haven't checked yet, but I'm hoping it's still available online somewhere, for a reasonable price.
Oh yeah, another problem I have with the Autobots version (Idk if the Decepticons version had this or not), is that Skydive was only able to be unlocked through very specific ways. Like, if none of your friends had the other game, than you couldn't unlock it. And I didn't know how to use special codes to unlock characters back then. So I was never able to get that Jet mode.
Also I'd like to mention the other 2 Transformers DS games, based off of Revenge of the fallen, and Dark of the moon. And my opinion on them.
Specifically the Autobot versions, since I never got my hands on any of the Decepticon versions xD
I think they were alright. They weren't nearly as good as the first game, but I think they are okay. I think the biggest problem I have with the other 2 games, is the fact that you aren't able to free-roam when not on missions
Anyway, this review was pretty good! I enjoyed it!
I wonder how to unlock that jet character to I know you would have to play allspark wars for it but I wonder if there’s another way to get that jet character i don’t know
God I remember droping so many hours into this game, I remember wanting to get the jet form so badly and never being able too even after I beat the game. Great video!
I tried scanning the Jet at hoover dam so many times. I feel your pain
This one I definitely remember playing, I do love both versions of these 2 games, brings so much nostalgia!! I’m glad someone is actually talking about these 2 versions!!! I feel like between the Autobot and Deception DS version, is very underrated compared to the actual console like Xbox, PlayStation
I love how your custom character is called sperm
So nostalgic and the snowy ironhide mission caught so many hours cuz I loved loved loved the serious vibe and breaking through the doors and walking around the cave slowly was cool af to me as a kid for some reason
I remember getting this game when I was younger. I played the game religiously, the game was so good. Like dude c'mon, you could be Optimus prime AND Bumblebee in free roam?!?!? the game was amazing. Good times.
17:12 Seeing the robot´s name and then the speech of Optimus it´s truly a masterpiece!
Yes my mans has returned! Have u played revenge of the fallen on the ds and if so what do u think of it?
As a kid I only got all of the Deception versions of the game's because my brother brought them and I would always play it after when he wasn't looking LOL😂....Expect I got all versions of the WFC game's Nintendo and X box and it was a blast🤣🤘
I actually played this one in my cousin’s 3ds years ago lol +good content Roni :)
I only played the Deception DS game's for the first 2 Transfomers films because that's all my brother brought....And I have to say I think the Deceptions got the more interesting stories in their game's....Most of the Autobot game's they mostly repeated the plot that the movie's were based on.....But I still want them all to be re realesed on the Nintendo Switch like what they are doing with some of the Lego game's😏🤞
Feels good to finally see someone make a video on these games I played during my childhood as well as comments from other people who loved these as well.
Also 4:38 made me laugh more than it should have 😂
Some of his analogies are fucking great 😂 like also in the other version of the video they just gave me the chuckles
I uh... I never got past the tutorial in this game...
I was very very young, the open world tutorial bit at the beginning kept me entertained for hours. I legit thought it was the full game as a kid.
Playing as Jazz was probably my most favorite part of all in the Autobot DS Version Transformers back in the day.
Same.. like i didn’t care to play as any of the others.. 😂
This was the game that I picked up of the two Transformers DS games and I loved it growing up. My gripe from the last video is the same in that there really should've been an accessible Jet mode that wasn't locked behind some weird Target promotion.
I loved this game a child. I now really want to give the Decepticon version a try.
DO IT
You should defo make game reviews a regular channel thing, enjoyed watching this, I don’t think I ever played it and I don’t think I will 😂
Even though I prefer the Decepticons version, I can still appreciate some effort that was made on characterization. Prime being guilt ridden over Cybertron being destroyed could be felt throughout the game especially.
I loved this game when I was a kid. My brother had the Decepticons version (even though I was the only one that even likes Transformers), and we were the only people I knew that actually played the game.
I remember playing this with friends. The combat was hilarious zooming around the map and ramming enemies at max speed.
The auto bots will never forget the name sperm
As a kid i loved playing this game! Used to hide on the rooftops of building trying to destroy as many tanks as i could. Great memories from that
It always made me laugh that Optimus said "your name will be remembered. We will never forget" Yet nobody says your custom characters name
Do u want to have Optimus to say "Sperm"
@@CrimsonJulz Maybe I do
4:46 Just checked and it's the same actor that does the president's voice in Rick and Morty lmao
I genuinely never expected a video on this game. But it's so welcome- much like others, this was my childhood too.
Since Megatron kills your character in both versions I find it really satisfying when Optimus kills him, especially with his voice cutting out as he screams.
Just like the first movie, it's surprisingly good.
The one memory I have of this game is at Brawl's boss fight, where he would repeat the same line over and over and over again: ¨I'm a tank! You're a truck! How do you expect to beat me?¨
It's been stuck in my head ever since.
Also the: ¨Finally some action!¨ *sigh*
And now I'm getting flashbacks. Thanks for that.
14:08. I encountered a fun exploit when I did this boss battle. Somehow i was able to land on a roof lower down and Blackout got stuck against the side of the building so he couldn't fight back and I just spammed everything at him. Did have fond memories of this game. And the Decepticon version.
Not the viewpoint I expected, But I very well agree with at this age. The Autobots version was the game I got first, months before the Decepticons game, so my feeble infant mind was molded to this game. I remember the struggle with the Escort mission in the Antarctic because it was so long and boring, but It felt good to listen to the duo between you and Ironhide and bumblebee's "dialogue". Then I get the Decepticon version blows me away with Barricade. Like you said, I hold high regards to the Autobots version because I played it over two decades ago. But now it would be pretty terrible to enjoy. Thats why I had vast enjoyment to replay the Decpticon version with my little nephew cause the story seems loosely similar to a marvel comic book. Just wish I knew what the hell a Wifi was when I was a kid so I could play that Allspark wars mode. But thats what Action Replay is for. I showed my nephew the psycho cars cheat: he hated it and it was fucking funny lol.
I wish I had played the allspark wars yo yo unlock the rest of the characters but sucks it got shutdown so now I can’t get the characters no more
I've got a glitch were the main character wouldn't scan correctly the first vehicle so you can get its form, having the original skin and having the same stats (or similar) to the first vehicle, and the meteor where it comes out in the cutscene as its vehicle form.
This game will remain a strong memory in my childhood, this was my first open world experience, I remember replaying the story and just destroying stuff after I finished the game. I was also sad af when my character died in the end
Bro very nice video thank you 🙏🏽
Barricade telling the cops about bumblebee having "brown hair and a moustache" will always be hilarious
I remember my brother raging at the final part, then years later I beat it for him, when Megatron was at low HP and can't attack I was excited when I defeated Megatron, then the other user was stuck at chapter 12 so I face the fear of getting damaged until low health and until I got to the final chapter and beat megatron
God, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who not only remembers but also cherishes this game!
Happy Landings took me forever to beat because I didn't even know that you could climb in this game. Felt so empty as I watched Bumblebee climb up the building and just went "Wow I am dumb"
To be fair it is one of the harder levels in the game, even if you can climb!
My biggest problem with this game is the Autobots don’t act like hero’s you can go on a car crushing spree killing countless civilians in free roam while in the missions you mainly fight against Sector 7 who are just soldiers protecting there country (you work with them in the Arctic missions but afterwards your enemies again) and none of the Autobots show any regret for all the humans they kill which makes the ending completely nonsensical as Prime says Autobots need humans and vice versa but the Autobots have been slaughtering humans for the whole game without ever trying to get in contact with the leader of sector 7 to explain what there intentions are so humanity is still at war with Cybertronians after the ending
This is actually a really good point I never thought about this before. Might need to do a video on this
@@PiranhaRoni thanks that means a lot
I remember there was a glitch in the final boss where sometimes you play as your custom charactor instead of optimus, you could just cheese the boss fight basically by flying above him.
this video popped up in my recommendeds and i loved these games as a kid. I got autobots and my brother got decepticons and we took turns beating the 2 games. But also wanted to point out that I do believe Optimus does mention they wanted to find the allspark to rebuild cybertron in the opening monologue in the movie.
Man i came from your Transformer Decepticon video: Pretty good¡ Im in love with this games. They came on my R4 for my ds and i had a blast. I like it a lot.
Even with the nostalgia that i have, decepticon had a great story. I never completed that story so that finale shocked me. I hope they revisit this games and make an HD remake with a branching story. PLEEEEASE
I had both games as a kid. Played them again a few years ago. They still hold up somehow, great games
3:47 idek why but "shitty low poly Shia LaBeouf" has become my favorite term, ever and I regularly remember it
Plot Twist: everytime someone gets to Megatron, a dev pulls out a DS and plays him.
I only played the Decepticons version growing up, so this is brand new to me.
we will never forget sperm
"I WILL NEVER FORGET" - OPTIMUS PRIME
Loved this game as a kid. I would play hide and seek version of death match with my friends but when you found someone you had to ragdoll them with the missiles so if you were fast enough you could just run around dodging rockets the whole time
Same.. we used to either do hide n seek or just act out scenes in the death match without actually fighting 😂😂
You should do the revenge of the fallen games! The deception version was really good!!! You could cheese all the boss fights as the fastest character type by running around the arena and circle shooting the boss, because they could not turn fast enough to shoot you so it was just running in circles and killing them.
Covering that version in a few hours! I had a slightly different opinion on the game!
I just found your channel and my god your editing style is fucking hilarious. Not only do you make the content interesting to watch but you make it funny as well.
I remember being stuck on the brawl vs prime mission for weeks as a kid because I didn't know how to beat brawl in the second half of the fight, thought the game was broken, cuz I couldn't damage him, until I got really mad and just randomly picked up a tank and hit him with it. As soon as his health went down a bit my eyes lit up and screamed like an idiot.
4:46 Keith David?! Wow he is in a lot of shows and video games.
I commented on the other video saying I played Decepticons a ton as a kid. I actually played this one. I played on an R4 and me and my best friend loved it, however the Decepticons rom was buggy and we never got to see the story of that one. Great games.
Yeah i defenitely had a similar issue.. some of the parts seemed to be bugged to a point where i couldn’t do some of the missions as i should.. in the end i just used the unlock all thing wich skipped to the end of the game because i mostly enjoyed just dicking around in the overworld.. on both versions.
Bro Fr all these transformer games went so hard
DS was such a massive part in a lot of kids' lives. I played tons of pokemon on it and a few obscure games like Monster Tale and Henry Hatsworth. Great to see the positive impact it had on people.
Just brought back so many lost memories. I used to play it all the time at school lunch in 2nd grade
Bro the Brawl battle was insane, me and my brother were stock in there like for 4 years, because the game was in english (my firte language is Spanish) and I never understood what is happening
This was it…. This was my youth. Woah
Transform my nuts Roni. In all seriousness, hope you're doing well
once again.... i loved this game just like the decepticon game. i only intended to watch a couple seconds to get this vid in my history playlist but i ended up watching the whole thing without even realizing.
It really was ahead of its time!
I remembered playing this game on my friends DS when camping and played it from start to finish in one sitting. Then I got myself a DS and found the Decepticon campaign and the differences between the two DS games(along with the PS3 movie tie in, but less about that) is different from follow the movie to follow the movie slightly less. I will say that you never really got into the scan feature with it being the big stand out with these games in that as the self-insert you can be almost every vehicle in the game with there own stats for both there vehicle and robot modes along with different weapons.
I remember as a kid me and my best friend got a DS each. This was my favourite as I absolutely love transformers and I bought the autobot version... I convinced my mate to get the decepticon edition.. he'd play my version to play Optimus but I'd play his version just to fly as starscream. Fucking heaven
You forgot to mention that the best part about the tag team mission with Bumblebee is that friendly fire is enabled, so you can actually kill him yourself, even before the boss fight.
optimus will never forget the great sacrifice of the great autobot SPERM!!! XD
I remember having fun with the glitches and the wanted music in both games were really good, these games maybe got me into that style music
I had both of these games when I was kid I liked the auto bots one but let’s be real nothing can top Keith David