Transformers Decepticons: Revenge of the Fallen DS - A Lackluster Sequel
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2022
- Coming off the shelf is a 40 minute video essay covering Transformers Decepticons: Revenge of the Fallen for the Nintendo DS. After covering the first Transformers Decepticons DS video, I wanted to cover the sequel to see if it lived up to the first game's astonishing quality.
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Megatron getting bellied by the other decepticons even starscream while he's going "noooo shut up" is a hilarious dynamic i never expected to see
I loved the ending. The fact that The Fallen made us his new second-in-command and demoted Megatron to a mere soldier felt like sweet and satisfying revenge for what he did to our character in the first game.
And then there's Starscream stewing oce not being the leader of the Decepticons
Also finally points out the fact Megatron hasn't really accomplished anything
@@hyperion3145 In terms of character, this game Megatron was.... lazy. One Megatron I love is WFC and FoC. He gets scrap done and doesn't take flak from anyone
@@atomicreactor6033 The Cybertron games definitely made the Decepticons overall pretty competent, you don't really see that outside of maybe the comics
@@atomicreactor6033 megatron from the Xbox/ps3 games was BADASS
Hearing the goofy voice of the original Megatron, Frank Welker, next to super intimidating Starscream is just... so weird.
29:45 as a time code.
Funny seeing you in a comment section lol
(or I just never pay attention)
i won’t stand for this frank welker slander
@@sunriseparrabellum5505 Frank Welker is still absolutely amazing and iconic, its just that his voice doesn't match the tone of starscream of all decpticons.
@@OzMediaOfficial yeah that’s fair, i’ll give you that
I’m personally fine with soundwave being a disembodied voice in the game, he’s the communications guy, it would make sense for him to be chatting through a radio. That and his voice is one of his coolest traits.
Yes, i hear his voice and immediately god excited. hell i got excited for starscream cuz i am pretty sure that might be the guy who voice anubarak in Warcraft 3, though, don't quote me on that.
yeah, but I would have preferred to have him in somewhat, even just as a still immage that contestualize him. nothing else, just the still with him in orbit with one of the spoken lines
@@serPomiz I can agree with that happily, I just am very attached to classic Soundwave so, if I hear that voice, Immediately get happy.
It just how cannon was at that time soundwave was a satylite orbiting the planet up intill like the fourth film he is just orbiting the earth
I love him as communications guy, and honestly am okay with never seeing him. In my nine year old mind, he was in space like the movie. But the rest of the characters were not and we still NEVER SEEM TO SEE THEM.
What a coincidence, just finished your original DS Decepticon review. Even when I was younger, I recognized that this was NOT a true sequel to the original DS game. It’s like they threw out everything they learned and made a completely different (and worse) game
Didn't expect too see you here.
Same, I just finished watching the first video when I saw this was posted an hour ago.
@@ultimateknight4667 yep
exactly, I can't wait for his review on the 3rd game
Yeah i was confused too
God starscream's voice is hilarious, like every now and then it'll crack so it gives the impression he's making it deeper on purpose to be more threatening which makes it funny when it goes back to being ratty like when he's getting shot.
😂 fake it till ya make it i suppose
Same thing on the PC version
I like it actually, sounds menacing. If I remember correctly something was wrong with the microphone they used for Starscream's voice actor. This voice is also present in the console/PC versions.
i believe his voice in this game is based on his voice in the first movie, where it actually sounds very similar to this. they probably didn't have any voice actors for movie one while the original game was in development, so they went with g1 voices. that's why the first game's megatron sounds like an old man instead of movie megatron. it's probably the same scenario here, but they changed starscream's voice to match the one from the first movie, unaware they gave movie starscream his g1 voice back for ROTF, and it's why soundwave has his g1 voice despite being just a dude mumbling in the movie. that's my explanation for it, anyway.
basically, this starscream has the voice of TF1 starscream, but they changed it to a g1-reminiscent voice for ROTF and the game devs didn't get the memo.
When I played the Autobots version of the game when I was eleven years old, I went through the ENTIRE campaign thinking ‘when does this tutorial end, I want to free roam and change vehicles.’
It was only until I reached Egypt and began fighting Megatron that I felt as if something was really wrong and I wasn’t going to get my wish (yes I was a naive and optimistic child). Essentially I fought and beat up Megatron with a degree of trepidation
All this was compounded that I beat the entire campaign within a day and had kind of wasted my mothers money. Biggest knife to my back of my childhood 😅
ikr...
I legit felt the same way I was torn when I got to the end.
You would be an amazing speedrunner.
Megatron being reduced to a foot soldier and replaced by your own character was such a great decision narratively, it makes the player feel powerful. Sucks that everything else, well…sucked!
Ngl that ending never failed to have me laughing my ass off for some reason
@@Zcrub I only played the first autobot game as a kid, but seeing the bland set piece behind everyone idly standing around is indeed stupid and hilarious
Good idia badly implemented be f7n if did somthing like that in a bigger transformers game like some sort of war for cybertron styled game
This Transformers arc is getting much more spicy.
I love your comments on the characters' personalities, or lack thereof. In the first Deception game, it was the first time the Bayverse baddies had ANY distinct personalities - in ROTF, they're pretty much what the mindless animalistic brutes on screen would be if they could talk
I remember playing the Autobots version of the game and feeling immensely let down at how different it was to the orignal DS games, your custom chaarcter can only use one style of vehicle and I find that annoying
I remember this too irking me too
Went back to the first game eventually and never tried the later installments
Also the fact that all other playable characters were restricted purely to timed challenges. Such a dumb decision.
Everytime I even play this game, I'm always reminded of that final level of where you as the lil Decepticon soldier literally beat Optimus down to a pulp. It always tickled me considering how I always wondered what was going on behind the scenes with Megatron, Starscream and The Fallen during such action
Headcanon wise, I imagined they were going through that desert fight scene, seen in the film.
Literally ALL they had to do was copy the last game and make a difference story, new vehicles to scan, different characters to play as, etc. Instead we got... this.
Yes its so easy. But no always idiots. Its always the same with sequels in games.
As a kid I loved the DS port of Transformers War For Cybertron, I don't see anyone talk about it when DS games are brought up but at least in my dumb opinion it really is one of the best games for the system. It looks and plays honestly really nice for a 3D DS game and as a kid it was just nice to have a smaller portable version that still feels like you're playing war for cybertron, at least to some degree lmao. You should try it sometime I'd love to see it covered so more people can be aware of it, maybe I'm extremley nostalgia blind but imo it's pretty good
It's a load of fun for sure. I loved how all the characters felt unique yet fun to play as
Dude LITERALLY just watched both videos of the first game like 4 hours ago and now I’m watching one you just posted. The world works in weird ways
Dude I remember when I first played this game as a kid the first thing I thought to myself was aww man they made it different
38:16
That "something" about Barricade that grabs you is 100% Keith David's voice my friend. Trust me, it grabs everyone lol
Its funny, feels like the inverse of the first movie game happened here- The home console versions of ROTF surprisingly fun gameplay wise.
exactly, I loved the 360 revenge of the fallen game
Dang, I actually remember liking the Autobots version of the rotf gamt quite a bit. It wasn’t perfect but I’d probably give it like a 6. Also the graphics for both versions are awesome, It makes me wish we really did get a true successor to that first game because that would’ve looked amazing for the DS.
The Autobots version is pretty neat! I don’t hate these games, but they’re definitely a letdown when they could’ve just had the mechanics of the originals with a new coat of paint
I remember being so disappointed with this game as a child. Not having the huge hub world's and being locked to one vehicle made me throw it aside halfway through the story and return to the first game.
Had the same experience
Think I thought I'd return to it someday but never did it
Something curious is that James Arnold Taylor (who portrays The Fallen in the games) was supposed to also take the role in the movie, but that never happened.
If that did happen that would sound interesting but I’m glad they went with Tony Todd either way speaking of which Tony Todd is voicing Venom in the marvel Spider-Man 2 game
I like how at the end The Fallen actually does what you would’ve liked from the end of the first game, he decides to make your character his new right hand, and Megs and Scream are left fuming and scheming.
I'm surprised to see an in depth series of a pair of games that I played a ton when I was a kid.
And now I find you're also doing a following up video on their sequels? Heck yeah.
I can't wait for number 3, that was my childhood
Exactly the same here hahaha
@@ender01o66 what do you think about that one?
I remember that in comparison to the first one it wasn't that good, it was really linear and kinda bland, but for some reason I have really happy memories with it. I just, well, liked it somehow.
@@ivanmontalvo9333 oh, because each mission each has their own distinct level design, and it has an original story, so it isn't a worse retelling of the 3rd movie
plus, there's some exploration too, and, each character can interact differently to the environment
crankcase can do a wall run, megatron can do a leap thing, soundwave can zipline, and I forgot what lockdown does
also, every character had a robot mode, vehicle mode, and a separate vehicle attack mode
@@ender01o66 yeah, it had good stuff.
The autobot version of this game has only 2 missions as Optimus. 1 which is a race against Ironhide... The final mission you don't even fight the Fallen. Optimus just arrives and says "oh yeah the Fallens dead too..."
You should do more videos on Nintendo DS games. Been recently getting into games with Emulators and you bringing light to them helps me appreciate them a lot more.
I definitely want to do this! I have Super Mario 64 DS lined up, alongside some others, if people would be interested of course :))
@@PiranhaRoni I think the Force Unleashed games were pretty nice iirc.
@@PiranhaRoni lego star wars the complete saga was great on the DS, and now that the new one is coming out it could be a good time to post a video about it ;)
I'd love to hear your treatment for a Megatron movie 👍
Wow, you’re here also
You know I realized that Grindor’s voice sounds like the voice of megatron from war for cybertron
lol
I am so glad I stumbled onto your channel three days ago. This has been a treat.
Thank you man, that means a lot to hear :))
@@PiranhaRoni same here, I can't wait to see you cover the 3rd game, that was my childhood, and it's way better than this one
plus, its story isn't based around the 3rd movie, rather the 3rd movie's prequel console game, with differences, meaning it's really different
another thing, I've never seen what the autobot version is like, so, I'm curious about that too
@@PiranhaRoni ruclips.net/video/2T2R3FfnO-Y/видео.html
what I liked about this game is the transformation animations, now the vehicles parts move as well instead of just popping after the robot did a funny dance. but we lost the MANY animations of the old game, in which you had a different transformation animation if you were standing, walking, jumping, driving, in the air as a car etc... which I really liked. The War for cybertron Ds game did the same thing, but had vehicle parts move as well, making it the best of the two worlds
I'm pretty sure that the "large helicopter" animations were kinda half assed though, if you transformed while in the middle of another animation it just gave you Optimus Prime's transform animation instead iirc
@@ThePerceptor555 wait that's funny if that's true 😂
@@Alzeal07 I'm not sure exactly on whether or not that was what triggered it but I know for sure that it was a thing that happened.
Sucks that they got Starscream's voice so wrong here, his voice in the first one was perfect.
The moment he showed the first clip i was literally like that’s not a fitting voice at all 😂
The intro was a total home run, and your sense of humor throughout got some good laughs out of me! Beyond that, great watch overall; I had this game but barely played it, so this was pretty much all new to me. Just be careful, you make good Transformers content, we might demand more 😂
I put countless hours into the first Decepticons game as a kid, but RotF was such a letdown. I probably didn't get halfway through, and traded it in not long after buying it.
I actually really like Grindor but he shines more in the PS3/360 game. His snarky remarks toward Starscream and the little rivalry they have there is a lot of fun, it's always made me actually like Grindor as his own character while most people write him off as "just Blackout again". Sideways I wish would've been based on his toy bios where he's this cowardly scout character who hides in the shadows of bigger Decepticons. Like instead of joining Grindor in ripping on Starscream maybe he could be the Decepticon who's actually afraid of him, giving the two completely different perspectives on things.
Something to mention about Starscream’s voice, that’s actually Charlie Adler reprising his role from the movie
Fun Fact: I just noticed that Grindor has the same voice actor as Megatron in Fall of Cybertron
That clip with the main theme and the guys dancing had me crying. I love these videos bro bc I never knew there were other people who played and understood these games at a level I did. I also couldn’t get DS games very often so what I got I had to stick with and I replayed all the transformers DS games over and over again. Keep up the content man, u got a new subscription
never even knew there was a ds game for revenge of the fallen lol. The Wfc games were my childhood. u should try it out Wfc decepticons if you haven't, was genuinely a fun time
there's a 3rd game too, however, it's way better than 2
@@ender01o66 i actually owned the DotM game lol. ive just never encountered the revenge of the fallen one. hated the DotM one tbh. only got it because shockwave was on the cover, & he aint even in the damn game till like the last 20 seconds
Genuinely love that you’re making these videos, I remember playing these as a kid (not that I’m some ancient being) and hearing you mention that they’re “great car-ride games” really nails it. Genuinely loved the first two and playing these was a massive let down but it’s cool to see someone else comment on them! Awesome work!
NOW IF YOU TAKE ROTF MECHANICS AND TRANFORMERS THE GAMES OPEN WORLD ATMOSPHERE (and certain mechanics) YOU HAVE AN AMAZING TRANSFORMERS RPG. Wish i was living in that reality
Same
I remembered being stuck on one of the timed missions and thinking it was bad, I got passed it and continued to see no improvement.
Welcome to the bigtime dude, the algorithm has snatched this one up.
Great video! Never knew about this game but it reminds me of my childhood obsession with metroid prime hunters on the DS
need that movie concept video. this is one of my new favorite channels just on the quality of these DS videos alone, cant wait to see whatever you make
When you said "scanning satellites" I was like 'Oh, there are space levels in this? That sounds fun!' but no... you meant satellite _dishes._
The first Transformers game I ever played was the ROTF DS Autobots version and honestly I loved it and still do. Sure there isn’t free roam and you can’t play as anyone besides your custom character (other than for the weird minigames) but there’s just something about this game I really enjoy still. It might just be nostalgia for me, for whatever reason Peter Cullen’s Optimus just sounds awesome in this.
I remember this game making me afraid of Starscream lmao, I was like 8 years old and he sounded terrifying in this game.
This video game in some really great timing, since I just finished watching your videos on the first 2 games, wow. This is great content, and I was hoping you'd cover the 2 ROTF's (and maybe even WFC and DOTM), and good to see it is happening (at least part of it). Keep up the great work man!
DoTM is awesome
Honestly I feel the 2007 DS games were just too good. They only go down from it, with a little spark of quality again for WFC. They're so good that the Decepticons one is easily in my top 5 Transformers games of all time. Such a shame we've never really gotten one in that style for a modern console.
That is some incredible timing! I only just watched your two Transformers DS videos yesterday!
These videos were a great trip down memory lane makes me wanna replay them. Thanks mate
Its funny that this was uploaded after I saw your first video recently. Good work! I agree with you. Never liked how downgrade this game was compared the original. imo I really liked how in the last game the Deceptions felt humanized. Not like generic bad guys. They weren't constantly talking to each other in evil voices, but like they were friends or other soldiers in the battle. They didn't sound like generic movie monsters, but like actual beings who cared for each other. This is something that I never really liked about most transformers media, even more so with bayformers is that the deceptions where always treated just like fully evil, and not just a different side fighting for different reasons then the autobots. I mean in the lore the Deceptions had a good point and a cause, but it got corrupted by bad actors like Megatron (kind of like the CIS from star wars.)
I remember getting this game back in the day and expecting a direct sequel to the 1st with same gameplay and everything... sad times
F
at least the 3rd game is better
HELL YEAH BOIIII THIS game was my CHILDHOOD (alongside the ROTF Autobot game and the DS WFC games)
Great video. I juat watched your other 2 transformers videos amd they were very well made. I love the passion you have for those games. Could really tell how much you loved those games.
I was literally wondering here if you were gonna make a video about the sequels and here ya go, reading my mind. Earned yourself a subscriber my friend!
I remember being so hyped for this game as a kid only to be left so disappointed when I finally played it
What great timing, I literally just watched and subscribed because of the first TF Decepticons video! Great stuff!
sameee
Over the years after playing the whole trilogy of tf ds games, I still think the 2007 one is better. mainly cuz... Well freeplay. And u can play as other characters as well.
I literally just finished the first one and you are telling me you just dropped this today??? Zamn bro.
This is only the third video of yours that I've seen and I already wanna hear your Megatron fanfic. Ride the algorithm bro
Wait holon... How TF are your vids averaging under 1000 viewers??? You deserve way more. You've earned +1 subscriber ✌🏽
I would most certainly watch a video about a Megatron movie! I've loved all these videos so far, so I'm sure it would be great!
I’ll get on that asap :))
I played this more than any other Transformers games on the DS, so I have the most memories. That intro cutscene is ingrained into my memory.
Yo same it was the only transformers game I had for a long time
Maybe one day you could do the ps2 transformers game. Part 1 is the autobot story and part 2 is the decepticon story.
Fun video. I never played this one, but I played the heck out of the first 2.
The music on your video makes me feel like I’m playing cards against Luigi. 10/10
I played both the first Autobots and Decepticons games, along with the sequels, back when my DS wasn't split in half. It says a lot about the sequel when "wait I don't remember that" was the only thing I can say while watching this video. It's forgettable at best.
Meanwhile, your videos on the first games brought back some real good memories.
These are fantastic videos, looking forward to the new ones coming out!
I just saw your TF Decepticon DS video and this being uploaded a while ago is so cool
This was my first experience as a kid on the DS. I absolutely loved it!
You should talk about the War For Cybertron DS titles, I used to love those
man the fallen is actually kinda of a good boss
he give you a PROMOTION
I’m happy to see more people played these games than just me
I remember playing this game on my 3ds and I honestly loved it and still do to this day
I’d absolutely love to see your idea of a Megatron movie brought to life
Man I love how you used the Naughty Bear music. You should do a video on that game.
I really hope there’s more of these I played both autobot and deception games for the 3 movies and war for cybertron when they came out. Love seeing this after all these years.
The starscream intro voice scared the shit out of me when I first played it
My man is just revisiting my childhood
Just finished the other 2 reviews, great timing
I'd absolutely love to see a video about that movie idea you had
Loving these videos. I remember getting the ROTF Autobots version as a kid and when I saw only 3 vehicles and no open world I just dropped the game. I want to see a modern Transformers game with a bigger budget try to replicate some of the mechanics from the 2007 game.
Thank you for this videos. You explained it perfectly
It always fucked with me how Grindor has the same voice actor as Megatron in the War For Cybertron game.
Bro I deadass commented on your autobot vid yesterday asking for this. Hell yeah bud
Me and my brother had al these ds games. These were the most fun. Im glad i had someone to play with growing up.
As a kid I always loved playing the 1st game for DS on Autobots. I never knew how to complete it but I loved running around and fighting things in free roam and even breaking the game to get into future areas early.
But for whatever reason in revenge of the fallen as a kid I just didn’t like it at all and went back to the first
yeah.. 2 sucks sadly
Lol I'm glad that I got the console version of these games. I knew the DS version of ROTF was bad but not this bad. The 1st DS Bayformer game was so good.
This was the first ds game I ever played and I gotta tell you, your assessment about the quality is correct...
I literally found your videos 4 hours ago and was hoping you’d eventually cover this game
yeah man, couldn't forget about this game! will eventually be covering all of the transformers DS games, and then moving onto other DS games if all goes to plan!
@@PiranhaRoni oh, yay
if you're looking for another DS series, the battleship one is interesting, I originally played the regular Ds version, and had no idea a HD 3Ds version existed
it has its own original story, and has interesting strategy elements, it's fun, but challenging too, but, not too much
@@PiranhaRoni Subscribed as I suspected this was the plan but it's great to see it confirmed!!
Great video tho! Keep it up you do good video essays! You’ve got my notification bell
love your videos, you should definetly the War for Cybertron DS game, those 2 are amazing
this game was my literally entire childhood
I never knew these games existed, but I do remember playing the War for Cybertron DS games which seem to have a fair few similarities to these. The minimaps have near identical icons on them, and from the few clips of in-game audio, I can hear some of the same sound effects. It’d be interesting to get your opinion on the WFC games, surely the Decepticon version for consistency :)
The voice of grindor sounds like megatron from war for cybertron ds
Hey! Stumbled across your channel from the first Transformers DS video, as I can see many of your viewers did. Just wanted to say love the content. As for some advice. I think what made me love the first video was less of “Transformers DS” and more of you just expressing your love for something from your past experiences. I’d like to see you talk about something new in the same format. Good luck - New subscriber
I bought the first 2 games because of your videos. Thank you for reminding me that these games exist.
Great video, very nostalgic ngl. Even though I did enjoy this game lol, kid me was very easily entertained. You should definitely cover transformers dark of the moon ds games, and maybe even the 3ds stealth force edition.
Honestly, if theirs one complement I can give this game. Optimus Prime first trying to convince you that your confrontation with him is pointless, and that the Fallen only see's you as a means to his nefarious ends, and only attacking when you disregard his proposal... Is a lot closer depiction of what Optimus Prime SHOULD be instead of the movies Optimus "Give Me Your Face" Prime.
now on the flipside, the Revenge of the Fallen console game was fucking awesome. That game's multiplayer had no business being that damn good
the fact starscream sounds more intimidating than the decepticon leader himself is wild
I felt the same way on 11:35, man. It's just so fbcking awkward disarming the bomb as the bad guys that was planted by the good guys
Hope to see your Megatron movie idea, sounds like fun.