WHICH IS THE BEST CAMERA FOR YOU - SONY A6400 OR SONY A7C? | APS-C (CROP SENSOR) VS FULL FRAME
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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Main camera: Sony a7c
Second Camera: Sony a6400
Lenses: Sony 50mm f1.2, Sony 20mm f1.8
Microphone: Deity V-Mic D3
Lighting: Godox SL60W
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Either way, these are both fantastic cameras. Sooo… how many did you guess right? 😅
Got them all, but all those images were good.
I guessed them all not even looking at quality because you used same lens :D. Every background object was a bit larger on a6400 because you changed distance and background compression was more pronounced.
6/8 the lighting detail and crop told the tale, great video. I’m currently debating between the 2
Got it all right, but I gotta say, the a6400 is a steal for the money.
Was able to pick out the A7C every time because the image was always a tad brighter and sharper. Great comparison!
Thank you!
I picked the a7c every time and I hate myself for it because a7c is ridiculously expensive but now I want it
Awesome video, as always. Personally, I think people are way too preoccupied with the level of background blur, to the point of that being more important than an actual story, but that's just me. ;) But it's obvious a full frame camera has advantages, and I think the most important advantages are the battery life, better codecs for editing, and I guess the dynamic range, although if you expose things properly in a camera like the a6400, you can definitely do professional work with it, and so, yeah, "like, for real", it just never ends. It's nice to have the best, the highest, the most technically proficient tools, but you can do great work if you don't have all of that, too. I was working on a film recently, a high budget project, just as an actor, and they were using an old vintage lens for a scene that I was in, and I asked the director how much that lens cost, and he said, "$68 on Ebay". lol. Having said that, I'm POSITIVE I'm upgrading to a full frame camera in the coming year. lol again. I guess, because, at the end of the day, the more you learn, and the better you get with your craft, the more you want tools that can grow with you, and create more possibilities for you with the added capabilities of that gear, even if it's not something that precludes you from doing great work without upgrading, it's good to upgrade if you are able, and have the desire to keep pushing the proverbial ceiling higher and higher, little by little with each new upgrade. I think if you look at it like that, like "I'm gonna squeeze everything out of this piece of equipment, until I feel limited by it, and then I'll upgrade again", then that's an awesome path for an artist.
Great comparison! I did find I preferred the images from the A7C in your video better, but it was always pretty subtle ans came down to shape and quality of bokeh, and in at least one case I preferred the A6400. Thanks for putting this together!
i have the a6400 and i am more than happy with the performance of this camera.....love it..
Literally got everything right but this is because I know how light works on the different sensors and also there was a massive giveaway between the images which was the difference in the distance of separation between the background to the foreground. But if there wasn't a comparison between the two, I would literally see no difference between full frame and aps-c. And if you're a photographer, regular clients won't see the difference either. Loved the video btw!!!
Awesome points! Totally agree with the distance of separation between the background 🔥
Thank you, Juanny!
Rolling shutter helped me on rounds 2 & 6 as well. I have both, & the a6400 is a great b cam. I got my a7C for about $1500 body only, which I think is a solid deal. I also only do video, so the updates to the AF were nice as well. & that gyro stabilization, albeit slow to export, is pretty amazing!
It certainly depends on what your end product is photo or video and what the final use for those products will be. I wouldn't spend the extra money to go full frame to produce only RUclips content -- but there are people out there that will buy an Arri or hight-end Red to shoot only RUclips content ... There is a big difference in NEED and WANT
Dude, you have a fantastic nack with cameras and presenting. Your channel looks fantastic and thankyou again for the videos
Thank you very much!!
Picked all. Bit in my opinion most pictures were at the same quality you just would have to brights the ones of the a64 a little bit up and choose a different perspective
The funny thing is, for me, I use both of these cameras. The A7C is the primary, and when a subject is a tad bit too far or I know I can't position myself in time: I grab the A6400 with a sigma 56mm f1.4. The crop factor essentially turns it into an 85mm portrait/telephoto and although the images don't come out as "bright" or as sharp as the full frame (pixel peeping here): There's a certain mood and ambience that the slightly muted tones created by the A6400 that till this day, I absolutely adore. Besides, it's the lens that really counts; and for being close to 1K cheaper than a full frame camera, I still love my A6400 as much as the day I bought it.
Wow, great. Zhank you! The difference is very small. And many times I prefered the 6400.
good comparison! i'd never notice the difference if i didn't compare. and that is how i live. lol.
best off spin I ever seen, we are just human, we need to show world that we are not perfect mate, you are the best! Thank you for this video!!
Wow, thank you!
Full frame for sure! It's so obvious when you're putting side by side comparing. I've just upgraded from a6600 to A7C. Satisfaction like 101% but the lense for full frame is killing!
While the bokeh on full frame is slightly better since the camera can be positioned closer to the subject as you said, I actually thought that it creates unnatural distorted look of the subject. I found the apsc examples to have a more natural compressed look, which I find more pleasing and more important than how much bokeh it has. This is really obvious in the example @2:58
You are so right!!!
I was immediately able to identify the shoot from A6400 as I found it more pleasing to eyes aa compared to A7c
Pretty strange how a cheap camera can be so good compared to a costly one.
I own A7c and Canon m50 Mark II. Now started debating about upgrading m50 to eos r6 but… I’m not able at the moment due to r6 price and insane r glass prices 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ hehe need to just use what I have, m50 has amazing colours straight out of the camera but lack of dual pixel autofocus in 4K as well as crop so… anyway need A7c for good 4K and more!
That was fun and I appreciated all your rehearsal to get it just right. One thing- it is obvious that you are looking at your flip out screen to check if you are in focus ( fair enough). This is disconcerting to the viewer as you are not making direct eye contact with them. Try trusting Sony's auto focus and look directly at the camera lens instead as if you were speaking to us through the lens ( an actor's trick!) It will make your video more professional looking and will engage your audience.
Both are good. What’s more important is getting out there and taking pictures.
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Love ur shirt man. Its limited edition Kuala Lumpur Seagames T shirt. Did u came here or got ot from somewhere else.
Bought it there in KL during the Olympics.
I correctly guessed it all! Awesome video, man
Thank you!
Excellent comparison vid. Thanks mate!
Thanks, mate!
I love my APS-C. The biggest draw for me has been the form factor and weight. I was at a photography show here in the UK and literally drooled over the A7C. I would love to own that as my main body, but alas, with the budget not allowing it, I will have to continue with the A6400 that I own for the time being.
I also have an a6000 but it's buggy as anything. Anyway, love your videos and great content as always... 👍🏿
With the a6400, you can really go to places already. Beast of a camera 🔥
Thank you for watching and appreciating the work, man!
Trade the a6000 and save for the full frame
Going you a sub for doing this video! Keep the great content coming man! You’re going to be a very famous RUclipsr one day.
Amen! Thank you so much!
I'm no expert in photography but I think that aside from the obvious bokeh differences, the full frame just does better at showing details on the darker parts of the video. Full frame also looks better straight out of the camera, which I'm assuming what these comparisons are, but also not that much of a big deal since you can alter colors in post.
Another great review! Awesome job! Thanks!
Thank you, Windel! 🔥
The 70-350 lens is what keeps me happy with apsc, full frame telephoto lenses are a burden.
As a beginner, I prefer the tone of the wood captured with the A6400 over the A7C. Is it something to do with the color science or something else?
Should be. ‘Coz I used the same preset on all images.
Hey in what program do you create these animations? Pretty cool
I used LumaFusion as my main editor. For my moving texts, I used Mojo app. Everything on mobile.
Got all of them right :) its recognizable like this but if you don't have them side by side... the difference is almost negligible in my opinion... apart the focal difference of course
Thanks for watching :)
Hey, man! What kind of spectacles are you wearing? They are so good!
Sunnies :)
Does both has same color science or skintone with jpeg files?
Hey, Stefanus.
Here’s what I noticed. Outputs from the a6400 seem to have more magenta/red. Especially in skin tones.
Awesome Video Bro 👀❤️
Wow great video! Thanks for making this video😍
Thank you for watching!
I got all right, I much much prefered the A7C, I guess I'll have to get this one then... Just waiting for the A7CII to drop to snatch the A7C for cheap
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Thanks for making this vide...I just thought to suggest lower the background music over your vocal will much great.
Thank you for the suggestion!
cheers bruh!
planning to get a7c with tamron 17-70 and sigma 56 soon
Cheers, man!
If I may ask, why would you want crop sensor lenses for your a7c?
@@DanboxingPH agreed, the other way around I can understand it, so you can upgrade to fullframe later, but this doesn't make sense to me, no offense
nahulaan ko lahat Dan, ganda ng contrast and low light performance ng a7c. nice vid as always. next time papremyo ka na din 1k USD. LOL. kaya di na ako nag shohoot ng 4k sa vlogs nauubos memory ko sa mga maling lines.
Good job, brother! Soon, magpapremyo na din ako hahahaha
Salamat salamat!!! Diba? Kaya sinasama ko na din bloopers ko e. Kasi pinaghirapan ko din sila HAHAHAHA
IMO I didn't notice much difference. A6400 I'd the one I'll pick
Aside from the side by side comparison, I found it so cool that you included your outtakes in the video. I tried making a 30 second video of myself the other day and felt ridiculous and gave up. This transparency actually gave me some motivation to give it another try. Thanks you for including that part in the video.
Let’s go!!! Thanks for making it until the end :)
your intro got me subscribed in a second
Thank you, Amelia!!!
I got all but the first one. The only way to tell is based on the color and the background blur. The a6400 has flatter color and a sharper blur. But real talk, if you didn't put the images next to each other. I'd have no clue which was full frame. And anyone who says other wise is capping hard.
Good!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I understand the struggle bro... I was entertained .. very nice channel here man
Thank you, Praiz! Appreciate it!
yow kabayan love the video! really helpful man keep it up and auto sub fo suuuuure
Yow, Kabayan! Maraming salamat!!!!
Which one produces more grainy video in night?
Can u do a comparison in walking, movie around etc, with oss, EIS, catalyst etc. Planning on using either one for my hiking trip
We’ll try to make one
@@DanboxingPH thank you
Which is best for photography
Sony a7c
First! I love my a7c!
Indeed you are! 🔥
Thanks
😅 i liked behind the scenes
Thank you for making it that far haha
Thank you! I have a question:
If I would take APSC Lenses like Sigma 30mm f1.4 on APSC Kamera like Sony 6600 and same lense on Fullframe Camera like Sony a7c (in APSC-Mode)...
The image/picture would be same or different??? What would be the differences??
Thanks!!!
I don't know all differences, but the main thing would probably be the resolution will be lower in crop mode on the A7C, it's something around 11mp. The rest should be more or less the same like using an apsc cam
Agree with Stefan! Almost zero difference. But the there is a significant downgrade in photo resolution. But for video, 4k will still be 4k even in crop mode.
@@DanboxingPH thank you
@@stefanhuber1391 thanks
Both are same rate now which one better
Sony a7c
Thank you sharing brother.
My pleasure
For RUclips videos would you recommend the 7C ? I currently have the zv-e10 right now
If you have the zv-e10, go for the Sony a7iv instead of the a7c.
@@DanboxingPH thank you 🙏, let’s goooo , road to 10,000 subscriber is coming
Dan i have an iphone 13 pro do u think sony a6400 would do much better than iphone should i buy a6400 ?
Yes. a6400 is a lot better device in terms of both photogaphy and videography
@@DanboxingPH thanks 🙏
Nice comparison. Mirrorless vs flagship phone naman bro.
Thanks, bro!!!
Actually, been wanting to do that. a6400 vs iPhone 13 Pro noh? Hahaha let’s see!
Nice comparison! Hye from KL, Malaysia 🔥💯
Thank you, bro 🔥
What about video duration? Can a6400 shoot a full 30 minutes video like a7c without divided it per 10 minutes?
No record limit on both of them :)
The a6400 looked great. But the full frame was better for sure in low light.
Indeed!
Hi dan, na try mo po ba silang i compare ng video sa low light? As in ung night time tlaga.. current user ako ng 6400 pero thinking na mag upgrade sa a7c, but is it really worth ba tlaga ung pag uupgrade considering lenses too need to upgrade and sobrang expensive ng lenses ng ff, any thoughts?
Anyway looking forwad sa channel mo to compare yung mga bagong lenses ng sony sa apsc line. Thank you more power sa channel ♥️
In my opinion, yes worth it siya. Pero hindi siya badly needed upgrade. Kung mag switch ka, tons of difference talaga in both photo and video. But if hindi naman pa kaya, a6400 is still a beast of a machine in my opinion.
Salamat!
In my opinion, yes worth it siya. Pero hindi siya badly needed upgrade. Kung mag switch ka, tons of difference talaga in both photo and video. But if hindi naman pa kaya, a6400 is still a beast of a machine in my opinion.
Salamat!
Got right all cause i know how the bokeh light effects works on both
Sony a7iii is the complete package and get viltrox 85mm
Sigma 24-70 all set
It was easy to see the difference mainly because of the compression... Other then that the image quality is close..
Agree!
Got everything right. Penge 10k 😜
How I wish kaya ko na magpa premyo hahahaha
Was obvious which one was which when the background was the same.
Any online store recommendation for these cameras?
Where do you live?
@@DanboxingPH ph
@@renashbell1203 see below:
Sony a7c - invol.co/clbwiai
Sony a6400 - invol.co/clbwibu
For the layman and based on the size of the photos virtually impossible to see any difference
Excellent job 👍
Thank you!!!
Great video!!
Thank you!
If im new to cameras, and didnt use info such as framing and depth of field, which i had to squint to see anyways. I prefer the a6400 image. Not sure if its the saturation, but a6400 looks sharper.
Im getting zve10 and this video solidified it. Im not going to be printing billboards or filming for nerds. Even general consumer will be impressed with apsc.
Maybe landscapes might be challenging but for double the money. Its not double the result. Id say a7c is only 5% better. Not worth full frame unless you are starting a business and alot of money is exchanged.
Nice inputs!
I got all right because of the crop factor
Shall we call this cheating?
Nah! You’re good.
thoughts on the zv-e10?
I haven’t used one! But I’m hoping soon hahaha I’ll surely make a video when given the chance 🔥
I see rolling shuter on a7c is better,and thats ITS afull frame.As we now smaller sensor Will be better on rolling shuter,but a7c prove it his technologic
loving all the ending HAHA
Thank you, bro!
What lenses the a64 used?
I used Sony 20mm and Sigma 85mm on both cameras.
Good review.👍
Thank you!
@@DanboxingPH Any suggestion pls para sa sony a6400 lens
Mahilig ako sa portrait photography
And video sometimes .
Gusto ko bumili ng sigma 85mm DG DN peru hnd ako Sure ?
I have a video for that already - ruclips.net/video/gESxjJy4i10/видео.html
About the 85mm, if you’re planning to go FF eventually, go for it. If not, it’s too expensive for aps-c system. Try the Viltrox 85 instead (this is included in the video I dropped here).
@@DanboxingPH thank you 😊
Bruh I only got three of the eight right... 😂
That’s how good both cameras are I guess haha
Alpha 6400 is way better then A7C ❤
Really?
Kuala Lumpur?
Philippines
Guess correct every time. When you look at the bokeh, you can't miss it :)
Just check the bg and you easily to spot A7C , very easy
Also, u r one of the best creater and ur time will come. Support from canada dude.
I only missed one
Not bad!
Great video man! I made this exact switch a few months ago and haven't looked back. To be fair I would've kept the a6400 as a B cam, but I'm not super rich 😂
Aside from depth of field, a huge advantage of the a7c is its performance advantage at high ISOs. Up until iso 6400, its relatively close. But for video, I found you can get somewhat usable images up to even 25,600 on the a7c. I made a video comparing all the ISOs: ruclips.net/video/yag1NZOsIzE/видео.html
The other thing is there are now tons of relatively small full frame lenses like Samyang's tiny series and Sigma's I series. This means you can start with a crop body and upgrade later without needing to swap out all your lenses like I did lol.
Lastly, the battery life. The Z batteries are a whole other universe. The a6600 has them I know, but if you have the a6400, the a7c represents better value than the a6600 I think.
I agree with everything you mentioned! And yes, I super love the battery life the Sony a7c 🔥🔥🔥
Nice Dan! almost no difference pero if tititigan talaga meron Full frame is best it depends to the user nalang tlaga. Great Job!
6:50 same struggles kaya nahihirapan ako humarap sa camera :D
I was actually surprised na halos hindi ko din makita difference nilang dalawa. Hahahaha speaks so highly of the a6400 really.
Thank you, bro!
Diba??? Hassle e hahahaha
@@DanboxingPH bahala na kung ano mauna pag kaipon APS-C or full frame hahah!
Keep up the great work bro :)
Just video.
A7c sharper that a6400
bakit puro baliktad yung sagot ko hahahaha
Hahahahaha ayun lang!!!
ung A7C medyo malaki ung bokeh
Right! 🔥
First of all, you are not good photographer 😆
Second of all, nobody cares about you and your comments 😂
Hahaha kolelat sa shiffer sa video
Tindi diba hahahaha
@@DanboxingPH hahaha peter pa rin malakas
Naman! Hahahaha