@@CivilizedWarrior Hello, them too. Those Mohammadans don't seem to learn. After Libya's naval entanglement during the 1980s there was a joke describing that the new Libyan Navy ships had glass bottoms so their sailor could see the old Libyan Navy.
@@lucasingram4583 Americans did... the real rulers of our country were the ones who wanted him out of the way. Not a single person wanting more Government control has our best interests in mind, only their own interests and those of their investors, especially if they own stocks in those companies.
@@BancheisI agree with you as far as the average citizen not living on the West coast. But there definitely was a large movement that didn’t like him, the entire 80’s So Cal punk scene was vocal about their dislike of him and it influenced a bunch of people that are ironically for “the machine” now, including Rage against the machine🤣. I’m Canadian so I definitely know first hand about government control unfortunately, luckily still got my bank account lmao.
I do love that a Russian ship comes out of nowhere just to record everything that happens. It's completely random but at the same time it makes sense. They probably wanted to know how well U.S. forces operated and take lessons home to train their own troops/sailors.
More likely they were just told to gather intel and inform leadership if they would stand a chance if they ever got into a fight. Pretty sure the response was "Absolutely not, we aren't messing with that".
There's a reason Russia tries so hard with their hybrid warfare to distract the west, threaten nuclear war (that they can't start without being nuked themselves), whisper in the ears of certain pro-Russian American politicians, and generally do everything they can to keep the US from intervening in Ukraine. Russia knows they don't stand a chance against the US if the US gets angry.
Notice the US gave the people on the oil rigs many chances to leave. The Iranians didn't give any thought to the innocent civilians on those oil tankers or the random ships that might be hit by floating mines.
Kuwait financed Iraq and let them use its tankers and ports for logistics - that makes them legitimate military target notice the US(& friends) extensively financed and supported Iraq's invasion on Iran and even provided *chemical weapons* which Iraq used to kill soldiers and civilians if you're admiring moral values then US is the wrong place to look for them
You people love just saying anything to make it seem like USA and Israel military does everything by the book, never do anything wrong and are so fair and polite. Please just go back to your corner. Y’all always want to give of this image like the Arab or Muslims never care about their civilians and the USA and Israel always there to help.. i swear you people need to dissapear!
@rigan789 Are you that dense? These were oil wells no longer being used as such. They were used as military bases! If you paid attention to the video you would know that. And no where does it say we took them over. We utterly destroyed them to be useless to Iran. Get out of your lib arts teacher's bubble and think for yourself.
I spent 18 years in the US Marine Corps and I repeatedly heard this quote “If you or innocent civilians near you come into danger it is easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.”
Two things to understand about Americans. 1.We do not like it when gas gets more expensive. 2. If you attack our boats or ships, you will not like what happens next.
I was stationed on the USS Trenton (LPD-14), which was a part of Operation Praying Mantis. We carried the Navy Seals that blew up the Iranian oil platform called Sirri, during the operation. Later, in 2007, the USS Trenton was sold to the Indian Navy and renamed the INS Jalaswha. -Press On
I did not know that, thank you for sharing thsi information. It's always been interesting to say the least to see the gap of technological advancements as well as structure commands inplace tho be it corrupt at most times are still functioning its purpose effectively. From the outside looking in, its both amazing and hilarious the scale of operations and reach as well as the blunders due to many many moving parts in the infrastructure.
Its funny that indians don't eat pork but Trenton is actually another name for pork ,so the ship's alias is pork .Imagine also my response when I realised that there's actually a police department in the USA called Trenton 😂😂😂 ROTFL
@@ulrichkristensen4087Trenton is a city in New Jersey. It was the place where Gen. Washington crossed the Delaware river and completely defeated the Hessians that were British allies/mercenaries. I’m pretty sure the ship was named after this Trenton.
As a former MA1 USN I could not stop laughing through this video. If you didn’t catch the hint, US Navy sailors are crazy😂. Navy culture is well represented in this video. Ships Company: Awe come on, let me kill something. Navy Brass: You’ve destroyed enough toys today. Time for supper.
dont think it's a national thing. I think any sailors are a bit nutty. I know a guy in the swedish navy, whom have told me some real funny storries from his time in the navy. Like playing a kazzo on the speaker system on his birthday, while being on a 48h shift due to some one fucking up, and not bringing a replacement operator for a certain task. Forcing him to take on 2 full days of doing said task whit no sleep, or brakes. Aparently the captain was okey whit it, knowing the circomstance. Then him taking a shower, while a fire drill started. Aparently the "Fire" was right out side the shower he where in. So he just walked out, grabbed the fire extinguisher. and waited for the controllant to come and check that the task was done. And there he stood in his "birthday suit" only. Or them using the rope gun, to shoot coca cola cans at other ships. I dont remember what he said the rope gun was called. this was told to me a few years ago. I'm shit at re telling storries, but he made them sound really funny.
Navy Seabee, NMCB 10. "Banned Battalion". Guam, Is. Air Force Base at Okinawa, Marine base Camp Pendleton's Enlistment Clubs, Ca. 9 months of willing slave labor, lack of sleep, and food. We built a lot of Good things. Bu3. 1971 -- 75.
I worked in an Italian restaurant im 27 and I had a buddy maybe 36 years old who worked on naval submarines for like 10 years or so and he was probably one of the most coolest people I met but yea he was crazy as hell lol he always listened to Alice in Chains and that's how I started listening to Layne Staley crazy the people you meet in life and the impressions they leave on you
America is the master of the "show of force." I don't know of another military force that can project overwhelming force anywhere like the US military can. As a Canadian, I wish our military was capable of even a fraction of what the American military can do.
@@marksmith2402oh, we could afford that as well, but we move kind of slow on things like that. I highly doubt we'll ever have a system as comprehensive as the UK's NHS, but I imagine the ACA subsidies will continue to get expanded, the same with medicare and medicaid, until we get more universal coverage. I honestly prefer government insurance as an idea over a government doctor, as long as the government isn't getting too involved in my Healthcare decisions. Side note, the memes are bull, it's not the Healthcare bankrupting us, it's the birthday stuff like missing work and falling behind on bills. Also, with kids, if you can't afford insurance you can get your kids on medicaid, and women can get pregnancy medicaid to cover the costs. So the young at risk are still covered, as are the elderly with medicare. I make enough money to own my own house (i am careful with my money), but I'm still under the line that allows my 3 kids to have medicaid. My own insurance isn't too expensive. Healthcare costs are pretty low on my list of worries, and we've got a congenital bleeding disorder, with one of my kids having a severe version of it (thank God for the ACA, for protecting people with preexisting conditions, prior to that people getting crushed by medical costs was an actual major problem), so i think i can safely say that anyone who says their going bankrupt from healthcare costs are dying one of 3 things: lying, making really, REALLY, poor decisions, or too dumb to realize the reason they went bankrupt after a long hosptialization wasn't the hospital bill, but the lost wages, which BTW everyone is an excellent reason to get critical illness insurance, seriously it costs like $2 a month, go crazy, plan ahead a little.
I don't know what 👆 that one is talking about.... America does have the best military in the world. We have crap leadership, but our enlisted will go hard!
This is why our military is so versatile. We have plenty of practice all over the world in different environments. We can coordinate maneuvers between different services. Having the best equipment and best trained personnel makes it sure bet that we will prevail.
Very true. Theres that, and where the US is geographically positioned in the world, two coastlines East and West with trading and naval ports, Canada and Mexico, north, and south that would depend on us for the big muscle and work as buffer zones,all the different terrains in the US and so on. The only way US could be taken down is from within and there are traders in power now that are trying to.
@@J.Walker88they are many in power now in every country and brought in people that hate everyone of us. It's going to be a Rocky Road for sure as we look at our streets. Get God and Jesus in your hearts for we never know when we will meet Them
@@HarleyShauz You'll find that the ego stows away quite quickly when we get down to business. Unlike other nations who feel compelled to have massive military parades simply to get a boner (China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Syria, and so on). It's always the typical dorks trying to show off their might, all-the-while the saying "walk softly and carry a big stick" rings just as true now as it did before.
You should really check out how the USA Marines/Navy was created to fight the Barbary Coast b/c pirates from there kept attacking our ships (from this guy - it's very interesting as well as funny).
I totally agree and I love watching the guy that tells the story because he’s freaking hilarious but he tells it exactly what it is and it’s pure American style.😂 we are a mixed bunch, but the majority of us are or were European like me even though my family migrated here before 1800 and some by 1801, but I am English Scottish southern Italian and about 15% Polish and I don’t know how that happened!
Being an American, I can tell you India has nothing but respect in our country. I have met many people from India and they are always the nicest people I have ever met. I love your videos.
People keep talking about “proportionality” and misunderstanding what it means. It doesn’t mean if you destroyed one of my ships I can only destroy one of yours.
Except the us gets about 5% of its oil from that area. We did what we did because Japan and India were getting 40% of their oil and it was their supply we were protecting
@@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 Yeah, one thing that gets overlooked by a lot of people blustering about, "Oh! America's only after the oil, hur hur hurrrrr!" is that oil drives the entire world economy. From the machines used to farm food, to getting that food to processing and distribution centers, then on to markets from there - often crossing hundreds or thousands of miles to do it, nearly all of it is driven by oil. If the supply of oil gets threatened, that doesn't just make prices go up; it also means that the entire global economy suffers increasing instability. Push that far enough, with countries running out of oil entirely, you wind up with whole nations' economies breaking down. Food rotting in distribution centers in the countryside while millions of people in the cities starve to death. It's a horrifying thing to imagine. And, sure, those same people like to say something like, "But renewable energy sources, hur hur hurrrrr!" and, yes, *eventually* electric trains, industrial engines, and tractor-trailers will help with that. *But* nearly the entire industrial infrastructure of the whole world that supplies 8 *billion* people is a huge and unwieldy thing, and it will take time - likely many decades, if not a century - to replace all of that with better, more efficient systems. So when a country starts poking the world oil supply - *anywhere* in the world - then the US is going to take notice.
The Barbary pirates one is a totally true story 100% bug his is freaking hilarious because Americans are crazy!! Don’t mess with our stuff and definitely don’t mess with our ships !! don’t mess with our plane and don’t mess with our country. I mean 9/11 was 9/11, but what happened after Pearl Harbor was pure revenge!!! FDR set that up and he knew what was gonna happen because he knew he was never gonna get Americans to agree to get on board to go to war. Japan knew they could never beat us in a war, but thought if they could do what they thought they did in Hawaii successfully it would knock us out of the war for six months and they would be winners because six months would give them enough time to take over the Philippines, and other countries & islands where they could get and steal all the resources they really needed to fight a full front war, but that didn’t happen because they are Pearl Harbor attack in attack on Oahu was actually a complete failure! They didn’t blow out a lot of things they were supposed to and they didn’t blow out the oil because they didn’t think we would be able to use it, and thankfully our aircraft carriers were not import, but out on Mission. The Japanese had a terrible hit ratio, and Americans have always been about precise bombing going back to World War II and that’s because we want to hit the spot we want to head and hopefully without taking any civilians it possible or as few as possible
Part of the whole thing for the show of force is, a lot of countries bluster and say: "You don't scare us! We will stop you!" and then they get shown how that's an interesting hill to die on. The bad part is, when dealing with naval vessels, that's a lot of people dieing at once on one hill.
This USS Samuel B. Roberts actually shares its name with a WW2 ship that fought in the Battle off Samar. It became known as 'the destroyer escort that fought like a battleship' as a part of task group Taffy 3. It is currently the deepest shipwreck ever found from WW2, which was a few years ago.
On a side note, Samuel B. Roberts was named after the captain of a destroyer during WW2. They are famous for a battle off Samar Island Philippines, where Roberts threw his ship at a Japanese fleet of 2 battleships, 6 heavy cruisers, several more light cruisers and 20 destroyers. Roberts ship was one of 6 destroyers who attacked this fleet. And won. Look it up as part of "The Battle if Leyte Gulf.
Samuel B.roberts was a coxwain on a landing craft that gave his life to save troops. They named a destroyer escort after him that was an escort for Taffy 3, an escort carrier group covering the landings in the Philippines. Roberts, along with the destroyers U.S.S. Johnson, & U.S.S. Hoel charged a massive Japanese surface fleet that appeared around Sambar island and attacked the carriers. These three ships caused so much havoc that the Japanese thought they were fighting full size carriers and battleships, the Roberts fired a Torpedo spread that caused the mighty super battleship Yamato to retire, and blew the bow off a Japanese cruiser.
proportional can mean a lot of things. It could be the cost of the ship, damage caused to the shipping lanes or it can be like a gear ratio. 1 part annoyance to 3 oil rigs and 2 frigates. As for the silk worm missiles. America called it's shot and would have been justified in just leveling all of their military bases then just not following through on the land war. This is generally the main problem with America's government style when it comes to diplomacy. Every 4 years the world has to try to figure out how the new guy will act. I am a supporter of the theory of peace through overwhelming shows of force. Elephant walks are one thing but if people don't understand the power of those elephants they start to think they are fully domesticated. A little fit of rampage specifically targeting a strategic but lesser important part of the infrastructure will ensure peace for a long time. Basically a punch to the gut and an offer of a beer is generally how foreign diplomacy functions. AKA showing the two options a fight or friendship. It is these protracted conflicts without a clear end goal that causes the problems.
The fat electrician if you want a history lesson about American Naval History and military history he's the one you need to go to cuz it is funny as heck
Watch this guy. He's a riot and the stories are true. Many homeschoolers I noticed let their children listen to American military history. This is a good one but watch the one of the war of 1812. We took on many countries then and defeated a complete country full of pirates. And yes I'm an old salt was in a NAT company. I have shown some other vets and they love him. Great military history.
Great reaction guys, this guy is a highly entertaining storyteller. The actual story of the mining of the Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) - and its survival is an epic story, and worth hearing - as are the stories of its namesake(s) - both the Destroyer Escort Samuel B. Roberts (DE- 413) and the young sailor Samuel B. Roberts - for whom these ships were named. A "Praying Mantis" is a carnivorous insect.
The idea behind it has nothing to do with bragging rights (though of course some younger and not all that bright people seem to think that is the sole reason). No the reason is to break your opponents will. 'Shock and Awe' no matter what label it goes under was a huge thing and still hugely effective and always has been, no matter what military or empire it may be from or the era involved. Overwhelming your opponent is not to wipe them out but to quite literally overwhelm them into not wanting to fight any further which if done fast and hard enough can actually end up saving a lot of lives, money, and needless suffering on all sides concerned and especially for reducing total civilian causalities.
One of the results of WWII was that America decided to use it's vast navy to guarantee the reactivation of sea trade routes to assist the war torn regions to rebuild. That is why today USA maintains a large carrier, surface, and submarine force. USA has always had a tradition of "freedom of the seas", and routinely sends it's naval warships into international waters all over the world to "show the flag". When piracy looms affecting and disrupting trade routes, the US Navy will, in conjunction with other navies, participate in policing operations.
There is actually a massive strategic shift going on in regard to this. The US did this to maintain alliances and use free trade to lure countries away from the Soviet sphere of influence. Today the Soviet Union is gone and there is no need for this anymore. This is why you’re hearing about the end of the Globalized economy. Since 1991 this economic and military strategy has actually been hurting the US in more ways than one. Trump was a manifestation of this.
"As a Canadian, I wish our military was capable of even a fraction of what the American military can do"...bro Canada is the other military covering our right flank...you have a capable military, its the politician you have can be missed guided at times....go Canucks ! ! !
19:49 Mark! 7.4K Thumbs Up + Mine! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊 Notes: I've seen a few reactions to his video now, and it is difficult not to repeat myself. So this time, since I see that others are answering your questions, as well as asking their own, I'll just thank you for your perspectives! You two are a delight! 😊
I like the way proportional changed from the understood meaning to the literal meaning in math, where anything is proportional if you multiply by the right factor.
@@robertsmith4681 Plus ships from about 12 other countries. Royal Navy has a Destroyer and Frigate currently in the area as well as our Amphib strike group in the Mediterranean I believe.
You should watch a vid about all the types of Praying Mantis. They're fascinating and are really helpful as the destroy harmful bugs that destroy crops.
A phrase that quite a few of us Americans grew up with is "you better not start a fight, but if someone else starts one, you better damn well finish it". I feel like that's what happened here
Praying Mantis are a predatory insect, it utilizes camouflage and immobility. It has two front legs that look like sabers to capture it's prey. They are very effective hunters
Rough conversion if you're unaware. The 23mm anti-aircraft guns have an inner barrel diameter of 23 mm, 25.4mm = 1 inch. The barrel of the 5 inch guns of the naval vessel is slightly larger that 5x that of the 23mm anti aircraft guns (and carry vastly larger payloads, and can carry more varied types of ordinance [High Explosive, High Explosive Armor Piercing, Armor piercing, Incendiary, etc] The Praying Mantis is a very specific group of insects, its name comes from how it stands perfectly still, as if in prayer or meditation, and its posture. It sits still enough to me mistaken by other insects and creatures up to the size of a hummingbird for "just a stick or branch" the mantis continues its pretense until the prey gets close enough, and with lightning fast reaction bursts into action grabbing and incapacitating, if not immediately killing its prey. Praying mantis have been documented to kill mice, some varieties of snakes and just about anything smaller. That something about 40-70 mm long, with a body under 7mm in diameter and weighing under 10 grams, can kill an adult mouse which is at least as long (not counting the tail) much broader, much heavier, is rather impressive. I would place it akin to an adult house cat taking down a large dog such as a German Shepherd in a 1 vs 1. (the last comparison is purely my opinion based on my limited familiarity with the mantis.)
Praying mantis is an insect like a grasshopper but larger. Praying refers to the arms looks like the mantis is praying with arms bent. However it's an omnivore that will attack other insects to eat them. It's pretty vicious. I've heard they've also been used in betting games in 3rd word countries where the laws are not as strict.
I think of the plot of Independence Day (the one with the aliens) and wonder how long humanity would have lasted if they had used caution and aimed for "proportionality" when dealing with the invading force.
But they did, the aliens were planning to exterminate us and had killed unknown thousands in their attacks. we killed unknown thousands making sure they couldn't continue their attacks. the fact it may or may not have resulted in the genocide of their species is entirely secondary to the objective of making those attacks cease.
Love your reaction video! Thank you for your appreciation. We have a bunch of Americans we wish we could send away from our country for a few months to a place of our choice to help engender a bit of appreciation on their part...
The UK used to be the western world's (UN) (World Police) until WWII when the USA took on the mantle! The USA industrial / military base exceeded the UK by the 1920's so it was only a matter of time anyway! The UK now helps the USA with diplomacy and advises it with grandpa / dad stories of "In my day ...."
Love seeing all the new faces getting introduced to The Fat Electrician! He's THE best storyteller out there! Well researched topics with a delivery that only a grunt can give! Enjoy his stuff, it's fantastic!
Well, just like anything else situation matters. Not all of us are so careful to not have innocent people involved in our retribution, but overall American service members are good people. They just hate dictators and are very well trained and equipped to do something about it. We are typically seen as evil in theae countries but without us playing police the world would have never seen the explosive development it did after WW2.
The bin Laden raid was titled: "Operation Neptune Spear" ~ the Hollywood movie based on it is: "Zero Dark Thirty." The US has by far the largest military in the world. Bigger than China, Iran & Russia combined. Great vid btw ~ cheers to Modi!! ✌
Praying Mantis: Insects: They have triangular heads with bulging eyes supported on flexible necks. Their elongated bodies may or may not have wings, but all have forelegs that are greatly enlarged and adapted for catching and gripping prey; their upright posture, while remaining stationary with forearms folded, has led to the common name Praying Mantis.
In my opinion, the idea of "proportional" response is to communicate, "What you did, really annoyed me, and..." like 'The Hulk' character might say, "...don't make me mad, you wouldn't like it if I get mad." I agree, no idea why they called it Praying Mantis.... more like poking the hornet's nest.
One way to look America and being "prepositional" in its retaliation is to compare it to the stereotypical meal portion serving sizes compared most other countries. Generally around a 1
The key here is properly understanding the word 'proportional' as Reagan used it. 'Proportional' actually means 'if you stop being evil right now, we will not be forced to carpet bomb your entire Persian Gulf beach front...and we may even let you keep a few fishing boats'.....but, if you keep on pushing, you'll be fishing with rod and reel from the shore...so you 'proportionally' have about 5-minutes to decide your future ocean based economic future for the next half-century....
Iran: "we messed up an American boat!" Japan: "No, no,no...Don't do that, your just going to make them mad. We did that once,and they dropped the sun on us. Twice."
In fairness... Iran touched our boats. Our _entire Navy _*_exists_* because a couple mf-ers in northwest Africa made a centuries-long career of either touchin' boats, or being paid off to not touch boats. And started touchin' our boats. So our Navy went over there and convinced them changing careers entirely for good would be their best move by stating very persuasive and _emphatic_ arguments with the mouths of our cannons. This set in stone, permanently, in 1815, two ironclad rules about the US. "We do not negotiate with t errorists." And "Do not touch our boats." Every armed conflict in US history since has begun US involvement one of two ways: -Someone touched our boats. Or -Someone touched our folks. We do not like the former. We *_really_* do not like the latter. Both these things _really_ make us get _proportionate._
Iran now very near to having nuclear weapons, and rather than attacking shipping themselves, supports proxies such as militias and terrorists, to attack ships and close shipping lanes. The U.S. doesn’t want a war with Iran, and doesn’t want a war with anyone. The weapons are a lot more lethal now, and likely rather than aircraft, drones are likely to be utilized. The confrontations are likely to become much more frequent, and the stakes very much higher.
Harpoon missiles were designed to be fired from one surface ship to another surface ship. They , in much updated form, are still being deployes on US Navy ships. Up until 1979, Iran was a close ally of the US and bought lots of American military hardware. Then there was a change in management and relations turned frosty. That's why Iran had Harpoons anf F-4s. The land-based antiship Sillkworms were from China, though.
1:1, 2:1,6:1, 10:1, these are all proportions. Did anyone ever specify what the proportion is? I think if it was enough to make them think twice in the future, it was enough, and if it was not enough to make them think twice in the future ( as we know it was not), it was not enough.
Yup a praying mantis is a carnivorous bug. They get about 4 to 6 inches or 10 to 15 centimeters and will try to eat anything. A fitting critter to name a revenge mission after.
We tend to go a little over board sometimes.. But we get things done for just about any country that needs help. Sad thing , we don't always feel the same about our own people.. From this American ; May many Blessings be with India and her people.🙏🇺🇸
You know, once upon a time the Japanese messed with our ships... we just cannot tolerate someone messing with our ships. It is a national character flaw.
The loss of life and the injuries to personnel on both sides is to be lamented. The Iranian military personnel had families and loved ones. However, if you're going to pick up a weapon and use it, the other side will as well. That's something the Americans understand very well. The Russians took their photos and were perfectly safe. There've been days where America took its share of lumps as well. The nature of war is what should stop people from starting one. I hope the brave combatants on the losing side may rest in peace. Surely, we can all find ways to live with each other.
U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt said, "Speak softly and carry a big stick - you will go far." The only problem with that is if you never show what the stick can do people stop fearing it. Bullies are going to be bullies no matter where on this planet you live. Im 51 and i have never met a bully that didnt change their tune after they got smacked.
For anyone that wants to talk about "proportionality", I advise you to read a chapter or two about Islamic Mughal Empire and what they did in India. Mao, Stalin, Hitler and Leopold combined... and then some! I'm not American, but I thank the Universe that the US exists.
15:48 Mark! Ahem. Actually, in that aircraft, they sit side-by-side! 😁 (See "Flight of the Intruder" or the pertinent episode of "Archer" to see what that arrangement looks like, in a fun way.)
7:54 "Proportional. You can never be proportional in war." That's exactly the point. Proportional responses are ineffective in winning wars. But they may be useful when the objective is to avoid an escalation or a war altogether.
As an aside, India is the second largest non American functional Navy on the planet. China has us all beat by numbers but they include their life boats and fishing trollers but the point being, one super carrier group can delete nearly all navy on the sea... And we have 12 and growing .
Also to explain US military naming conversations, specifically for the US Navy, They use a 2 or 3 word random name generator and just go with whatever it pops out with. Like "Classification" "Word one" and or "word two" Operation Praying... Mantis.. Operation Paperclip Project Monroe and so on... Or some general is like "I have come up with a name and you will call it that or else"
Yup, and America's Carrier groups are nuclear powered and can be out and about in the seas for much longer than any other nation's carriers. This also means they are also more capable of projecting America's military Power, far from home.
navy and airforce is obsolete old school after hypersonic missiles which sink the carriers with jets choppers and 5k trans marines aboard. forces are cool but you need to depend on advance icbms hypersonics and drones lol
And that was the day Japan called up Iran and said "This, this is why you never, ever, ever touch America's boats."
Oh, I thought that it was Libya that called them.
@@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 dang, I thought it was the 18th century Barbary Pirates.
@@CivilizedWarrior Hello, them too. Those Mohammadans don't seem to learn. After Libya's naval entanglement during the 1980s there was a joke describing that the new Libyan Navy ships had glass bottoms so their sailor could see the old Libyan Navy.
Moral of the shit load of stories here: STOP FUCKING WITH OUR BOATS
Not just Japan, Lybia(and the other babary states) Spain, Germany, Vietnam and a few others.
I was there. Served on USS Enterprise from 1986-1990. That was a crazy day! 🇺🇸
Just... Damn. Now, I have a pretty good idea why Marines are so nuts. LOL
I was there too was ships company AIMD4
Thank you for your service!
Good job. War is hell. People die in war, when a gold fish attacks a barracuda, weeel you know.
My Dad served on the USS Enterprise! Operation Sea Orbit! CVN-65! Please to meet you !
The complete Ronald Reagan quote is "the 9 scariest words in the English language are {I'm from the government and I'm here to help}"
Yea this is more real now then it was!
Ahhh okay that sounds way more like something he’d say, I was so confused. Smart man, America didn’t know what they had..
@@lucasingram4583 Americans did... the real rulers of our country were the ones who wanted him out of the way. Not a single person wanting more Government control has our best interests in mind, only their own interests and those of their investors, especially if they own stocks in those companies.
@@BancheisI agree with you as far as the average citizen not living on the West coast. But there definitely was a large movement that didn’t like him, the entire 80’s So Cal punk scene was vocal about their dislike of him and it influenced a bunch of people that are ironically for “the machine” now, including Rage against the machine🤣. I’m Canadian so I definitely know first hand about government control unfortunately, luckily still got my bank account lmao.
@@lucasingram4583 Funny thing about this particular quote, even people who hated Reagan can agree with it lol
I do love that a Russian ship comes out of nowhere just to record everything that happens. It's completely random but at the same time it makes sense.
They probably wanted to know how well U.S. forces operated and take lessons home to train their own troops/sailors.
More likely they were just told to gather intel and inform leadership if they would stand a chance if they ever got into a fight. Pretty sure the response was "Absolutely not, we aren't messing with that".
Given it was Russian Navy its to their credit they made it that far.
@@bobbarclay316😂😂😂 I'm dying over here
What sort of navy power fails to those without a navy? A farce navy
There's a reason Russia tries so hard with their hybrid warfare to distract the west, threaten nuclear war (that they can't start without being nuked themselves), whisper in the ears of certain pro-Russian American politicians, and generally do everything they can to keep the US from intervening in Ukraine. Russia knows they don't stand a chance against the US if the US gets angry.
Notice the US gave the people on the oil rigs many chances to leave. The Iranians didn't give any thought to the innocent civilians on those oil tankers or the random ships that might be hit by floating mines.
Kuwait financed Iraq and let them use its tankers and ports for logistics - that makes them legitimate military target
notice the US(& friends) extensively financed and supported Iraq's invasion on Iran and even provided *chemical weapons* which Iraq used to kill soldiers and civilians
if you're admiring moral values then US is the wrong place to look for them
Oil thief US
You people love just saying anything to make it seem like USA and Israel military does everything by the book, never do anything wrong and are so fair and polite. Please just go back to your corner. Y’all always want to give of this image like the Arab or Muslims never care about their civilians and the USA and Israel always there to help.. i swear you people need to dissapear!
@rigan789 Are you that dense? These were oil wells no longer being used as such. They were used as military bases! If you paid attention to the video you would know that. And no where does it say we took them over. We utterly destroyed them to be useless to Iran. Get out of your lib arts teacher's bubble and think for yourself.
In International waters. No war crime there though. They learned the hard way - the US Navy can be merciful after being proportional !
In America we believe the term "Overkill" is "Underrated"! Lol!😂
I spent 18 years in the US Marine Corps and I repeatedly heard this quote “If you or innocent civilians near you come into danger it is easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.”
Semper Fidelis
True dat!
As an American, I thank you for your response as it is very educated. Bless you both and your country.
@markholtdorf56
Simple minds and their simpleton slogans.
Their country is America!
No real American speaks the way you do, your most likely Indian, so why lie.
AS THE SAYING GOES, DON'T MESS WITH THE BEST, BECAUSE THE BEST WILL MESS UP THE REST.
Two things to understand about Americans.
1.We do not like it when gas gets more expensive.
2. If you attack our boats or ships, you will not like what happens next.
Boom goes the dynamite
I was stationed on the USS Trenton (LPD-14), which was a part of Operation Praying Mantis. We carried the Navy Seals that blew up the Iranian oil platform called Sirri, during the operation. Later, in 2007, the USS Trenton was sold to the Indian Navy and renamed the INS Jalaswha. -Press On
I did not know that, thank you for sharing thsi information.
It's always been interesting to say the least to see the gap of technological advancements as well as structure commands inplace tho be it corrupt at most times are still functioning its purpose effectively.
From the outside looking in, its both amazing and hilarious the scale of operations and reach as well as the blunders due to many many moving parts in the infrastructure.
Its funny that indians don't eat pork but Trenton is actually another name for pork ,so the ship's alias is pork .Imagine also my response when I realised that there's actually a police department in the USA called Trenton 😂😂😂 ROTFL
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_U.S.%E2%80%93Iran_naval_incident
@@snakeslayer831USS Trenton was named after the city of Trenton in Missouri, not pork
@@ulrichkristensen4087Trenton is a city in New Jersey. It was the place where Gen. Washington crossed the Delaware river and completely defeated the Hessians that were British allies/mercenaries.
I’m pretty sure the ship was named after this Trenton.
As a former MA1 USN I could not stop laughing through this video. If you didn’t catch the hint, US Navy sailors are crazy😂. Navy culture is well represented in this video. Ships Company: Awe come on, let me kill something. Navy Brass: You’ve destroyed enough toys today. Time for supper.
dont think it's a national thing. I think any sailors are a bit nutty.
I know a guy in the swedish navy, whom have told me some real funny storries from his time in the navy.
Like playing a kazzo on the speaker system on his birthday, while being on a 48h shift due to some one fucking up, and not bringing a replacement operator for a certain task. Forcing him to take on 2 full days of doing said task whit no sleep, or brakes. Aparently the captain was okey whit it, knowing the circomstance.
Then him taking a shower, while a fire drill started. Aparently the "Fire" was right out side the shower he where in. So he just walked out, grabbed the fire extinguisher. and waited for the controllant to come and check that the task was done. And there he stood in his "birthday suit" only.
Or them using the rope gun, to shoot coca cola cans at other ships. I dont remember what he said the rope gun was called. this was told to me a few years ago.
I'm shit at re telling storries, but he made them sound really funny.
Navy Seabee, NMCB 10. "Banned Battalion". Guam, Is. Air Force Base at Okinawa, Marine base Camp Pendleton's Enlistment Clubs, Ca. 9 months of willing slave labor, lack of sleep, and food. We built a lot of Good things. Bu3. 1971 -- 75.
MT1 VANWINKLE
I worked in an Italian restaurant im 27 and I had a buddy maybe 36 years old who worked on naval submarines for like 10 years or so and he was probably one of the most coolest people I met but yea he was crazy as hell lol he always listened to Alice in Chains and that's how I started listening to Layne Staley crazy the people you meet in life and the impressions they leave on you
Hoo rah
America is the master of the "show of force." I don't know of another military force that can project overwhelming force anywhere like the US military can. As a Canadian, I wish our military was capable of even a fraction of what the American military can do.
remember though, the cost of our unhealthcare is having free healthcare
@@marksmith2402oh, we could afford that as well, but we move kind of slow on things like that. I highly doubt we'll ever have a system as comprehensive as the UK's NHS, but I imagine the ACA subsidies will continue to get expanded, the same with medicare and medicaid, until we get more universal coverage. I honestly prefer government insurance as an idea over a government doctor, as long as the government isn't getting too involved in my Healthcare decisions.
Side note, the memes are bull, it's not the Healthcare bankrupting us, it's the birthday stuff like missing work and falling behind on bills.
Also, with kids, if you can't afford insurance you can get your kids on medicaid, and women can get pregnancy medicaid to cover the costs. So the young at risk are still covered, as are the elderly with medicare.
I make enough money to own my own house (i am careful with my money), but I'm still under the line that allows my 3 kids to have medicaid. My own insurance isn't too expensive. Healthcare costs are pretty low on my list of worries, and we've got a congenital bleeding disorder, with one of my kids having a severe version of it (thank God for the ACA, for protecting people with preexisting conditions, prior to that people getting crushed by medical costs was an actual major problem), so i think i can safely say that anyone who says their going bankrupt from healthcare costs are dying one of 3 things: lying, making really, REALLY, poor decisions, or too dumb to realize the reason they went bankrupt after a long hosptialization wasn't the hospital bill, but the lost wages, which BTW everyone is an excellent reason to get critical illness insurance, seriously it costs like $2 a month, go crazy, plan ahead a little.
I don't know what 👆 that one is talking about....
America does have the best military in the world.
We have crap leadership, but our enlisted will go hard!
@@marksmith2402 Unfettered lawyers and parasitic health insurance is the problem in the US. At least 1/2 of our health care dollar is wasted.
@@FRECKLEFACEBLACKWOMAN just spreading my own bullshit around hoping some flowers will sprout.
This is why our military is so versatile. We have plenty of practice all over the world in different environments. We can coordinate maneuvers between different services. Having the best equipment and best trained personnel makes it sure bet that we will prevail.
Very true. Theres that, and where the US is geographically positioned in the world, two coastlines East and West with trading and naval ports, Canada and Mexico, north, and south that would depend on us for the big muscle and work as buffer zones,all the different terrains in the US and so on. The only way US could be taken down is from within and there are traders in power now that are trying to.
@@J.Walker88they are many in power now in every country and brought in people that hate everyone of us. It's going to be a Rocky Road for sure as we look at our streets. Get God and Jesus in your hearts for we never know when we will meet Them
The American Eagle or Egos which one is it?
@@HarleyShauz both
@@HarleyShauz You'll find that the ego stows away quite quickly when we get down to business. Unlike other nations who feel compelled to have massive military parades simply to get a boner (China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Syria, and so on). It's always the typical dorks trying to show off their might, all-the-while the saying "walk softly and carry a big stick" rings just as true now as it did before.
You guys will end up loving this channel and all of the crazy stories he talks about
You should really check out how the USA Marines/Navy was created to fight the Barbary Coast b/c pirates from there kept attacking our ships (from this guy - it's very interesting as well as funny).
@@kimkacer782 I fully agree that’s my favorite
@@kimkacer782
Moral of the story. Don't touch America's boats.
I totally agree and I love watching the guy that tells the story because he’s freaking hilarious but he tells it exactly what it is and it’s pure American style.😂 we are a mixed bunch, but the majority of us are or were European like me even though my family migrated here before 1800 and some by 1801, but I am English Scottish southern Italian and about 15% Polish and I don’t know how that happened!
Not stories history
Being an American, I can tell you India has nothing but respect in our country. I have met many people from India and they are always the nicest people I have ever met. I love your videos.
People keep talking about “proportionality” and misunderstanding what it means. It doesn’t mean if you destroyed one of my ships I can only destroy one of yours.
It's the minimum amount of overwhelming force
Except the us gets about 5% of its oil from that area. We did what we did because Japan and India were getting 40% of their oil and it was their supply we were protecting
u.S. oil was coming from Venezuela and Mexico. Mideast oil is for Europe and other places.
@@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 Yeah, one thing that gets overlooked by a lot of people blustering about, "Oh! America's only after the oil, hur hur hurrrrr!" is that oil drives the entire world economy. From the machines used to farm food, to getting that food to processing and distribution centers, then on to markets from there - often crossing hundreds or thousands of miles to do it, nearly all of it is driven by oil. If the supply of oil gets threatened, that doesn't just make prices go up; it also means that the entire global economy suffers increasing instability. Push that far enough, with countries running out of oil entirely, you wind up with whole nations' economies breaking down. Food rotting in distribution centers in the countryside while millions of people in the cities starve to death. It's a horrifying thing to imagine.
And, sure, those same people like to say something like, "But renewable energy sources, hur hur hurrrrr!" and, yes, *eventually* electric trains, industrial engines, and tractor-trailers will help with that. *But* nearly the entire industrial infrastructure of the whole world that supplies 8 *billion* people is a huge and unwieldy thing, and it will take time - likely many decades, if not a century - to replace all of that with better, more efficient systems.
So when a country starts poking the world oil supply - *anywhere* in the world - then the US is going to take notice.
Definitely check out more of the Fat Electrician. His storytelling is AMAZING👌
The Barbary pirates one is a totally true story 100% bug his is freaking hilarious because Americans are crazy!!
Don’t mess with our stuff and definitely don’t mess with our ships !! don’t mess with our plane and don’t mess with our country.
I mean 9/11 was 9/11, but what happened after Pearl Harbor was pure revenge!!! FDR set that up and he knew what was gonna happen because he knew he was never gonna get Americans to agree to get on board to go to war. Japan knew they could never beat us in a war, but thought if they could do what they thought they did in Hawaii successfully it would knock us out of the war for six months and they would be winners because six months would give them enough time to take over the Philippines, and other countries & islands where they could get and steal all the resources they really needed to fight a full front war, but that didn’t happen because they are Pearl Harbor attack in attack on Oahu was actually a complete failure! They didn’t blow out a lot of things they were supposed to and they didn’t blow out the oil because they didn’t think we would be able to use it, and thankfully our aircraft carriers were not import, but out on Mission.
The Japanese had a terrible hit ratio, and Americans have always been about precise bombing going back to World War II and that’s because we want to hit the spot we want to head and hopefully without taking any civilians it possible or as few as possible
I absolutely conquer with that statement! I love Fat Electricians story telling ability!
Don't mess with our boats...we don't like that.
Part of the whole thing for the show of force is, a lot of countries bluster and say: "You don't scare us! We will stop you!" and then they get shown how that's an interesting hill to die on. The bad part is, when dealing with naval vessels, that's a lot of people dieing at once on one hill.
This USS Samuel B. Roberts actually shares its name with a WW2 ship that fought in the Battle off Samar. It became known as 'the destroyer escort that fought like a battleship' as a part of task group Taffy 3. It is currently the deepest shipwreck ever found from WW2, which was a few years ago.
i must say i really love it when i hear a man who knows his history
Saw that episode on the history channel 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏾👍🏾
The whole tin can battle story is beyond belief!! Not sure if a movie could do it justice. But it would surely sell better than any war movie of late.
@@darrylmuse9948 battle 360 has one out as well.
On a side note, Samuel B. Roberts was named after the captain of a destroyer during WW2. They are famous for a battle off Samar Island Philippines, where Roberts threw his ship at a Japanese fleet of 2 battleships, 6 heavy cruisers, several more light cruisers and 20 destroyers.
Roberts ship was one of 6 destroyers who attacked this fleet. And won.
Look it up as part of "The Battle if Leyte Gulf.
Jeez I wrote this bassackwards. Roberts wasn't the Captain but the ship!
@@bobbarclay316 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Samuel_B._Roberts_(DE-413)
Samuel B.roberts was a coxwain on a landing craft that gave his life to save troops. They named a destroyer escort after him that was an escort for Taffy 3, an escort carrier group covering the landings in the Philippines. Roberts, along with the destroyers U.S.S. Johnson, & U.S.S. Hoel charged a massive Japanese surface fleet that appeared around Sambar island and attacked the carriers. These three ships caused so much havoc that the Japanese thought they were fighting full size carriers and battleships, the Roberts fired a Torpedo spread that caused the mighty super battleship Yamato to retire, and blew the bow off a Japanese cruiser.
Hey you two , love your channel. I have subscribed, U.S. Navy Veteran. TEXAS
proportional can mean a lot of things. It could be the cost of the ship, damage caused to the shipping lanes or it can be like a gear ratio. 1 part annoyance to 3 oil rigs and 2 frigates.
As for the silk worm missiles. America called it's shot and would have been justified in just leveling all of their military bases then just not following through on the land war. This is generally the main problem with America's government style when it comes to diplomacy. Every 4 years the world has to try to figure out how the new guy will act. I am a supporter of the theory of peace through overwhelming shows of force. Elephant walks are one thing but if people don't understand the power of those elephants they start to think they are fully domesticated. A little fit of rampage specifically targeting a strategic but lesser important part of the infrastructure will ensure peace for a long time. Basically a punch to the gut and an offer of a beer is generally how foreign diplomacy functions. AKA showing the two options a fight or friendship.
It is these protracted conflicts without a clear end goal that causes the problems.
The fat electrician if you want a history lesson about American Naval History and military history he's the one you need to go to cuz it is funny as heck
Watch this guy. He's a riot and the stories are true. Many homeschoolers I noticed let their children listen to American military history. This is a good one but watch the one of the war of 1812. We took on many countries then and defeated a complete country full of pirates. And yes I'm an old salt was in a NAT company. I have shown some other vets and they love him. Great military history.
In America, Proportional and Overwhelming Force mean the same thing
Not really. There was a plan. Iran took further steps. Nothing against Iranians, but their leaders are rather stupid.
Watertight integrity is the most important part of preventing a ship from sinking. Keep all essential compartments closed as a precaution
Great reaction guys, this guy is a highly entertaining storyteller.
The actual story of the mining of the Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) - and its survival is an epic story, and worth hearing - as are the stories of its namesake(s) - both the Destroyer Escort Samuel B. Roberts (DE- 413) and the young sailor Samuel B. Roberts - for whom these ships were named.
A "Praying Mantis" is a carnivorous insect.
God bless Sammy B, Sammy B, and Sammy B!
USS _Samuel B. Roberts_ (DE-413), "the destroyer escort that fought like a battleship." (World War II)
And the praying mantis mates and I think it’s the female eats the male.
what a crew it must of had to fight like a Battleship ! that right there speaks volumes of those in charge as well ! i salute you ! @@rafaucett
The idea behind it has nothing to do with bragging rights (though of course some younger and not all that bright people seem to think that is the sole reason). No the reason is to break your opponents will. 'Shock and Awe' no matter what label it goes under was a huge thing and still hugely effective and always has been, no matter what military or empire it may be from or the era involved. Overwhelming your opponent is not to wipe them out but to quite literally overwhelm them into not wanting to fight any further which if done fast and hard enough can actually end up saving a lot of lives, money, and needless suffering on all sides concerned and especially for reducing total civilian causalities.
It is always better to work from a position of strength. In WWII we had German subs sinking shipping off the east coast. Nevermore
The Germans called it blitzkrieg meaning “ Lightening Warfare “ 👍🏼😎🇺🇸💪
Kinda hard to fight, or even RUN, when there's a metric ton of shit filling your pants and weighing you down.
Hey ! Love you guys from America! Be safe my friends and peace to all 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸
One of the results of WWII was that America decided to use it's vast navy to guarantee the reactivation of sea trade routes to assist the war torn regions to rebuild. That is why today USA maintains a large carrier, surface, and submarine force. USA has always had a tradition of "freedom of the seas", and routinely sends it's naval warships into international waters all over the world to "show the flag". When piracy looms affecting and disrupting trade routes, the US Navy will, in conjunction with other navies, participate in policing operations.
There is actually a massive strategic shift going on in regard to this. The US did this to maintain alliances and use free trade to lure countries away from the Soviet sphere of influence. Today the Soviet Union is gone and there is no need for this anymore. This is why you’re hearing about the end of the Globalized economy. Since 1991 this economic and military strategy has actually been hurting the US in more ways than one. Trump was a manifestation of this.
"As a Canadian, I wish our military was capable of even a fraction of what the American military can do"...bro Canada is the other military covering our right flank...you have a capable military, its the politician you have can be missed guided at times....go Canucks ! ! !
The praying mantis is a flying predatory insect in America, which looks like a tiny alien.
Keep in mind, America doesn't like people messing with our ships, Ask Tripoli, Spain, Japan Iran etc Houthis bout to find out
Houthis? About to be whothis 😂
@@dakotafrazier2985 Zing!
I was on a float (serving on a ship) over in the Pacific when this happened; I am not going to lie; I was jealous not to be there.
I learned the word “proportional” today and you made it very fun. Thank you, I enjoyed it very much!
19:49 Mark! 7.4K Thumbs Up + Mine! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊
Notes: I've seen a few reactions to his video now, and it is difficult not to repeat myself. So this time, since I see that others are answering your questions, as well as asking their own, I'll just thank you for your perspectives! You two are a delight! 😊
4:53 "There is nothing scarier than hearing 'I am from the government and I am here to help'"
The nine scariest words in the English language are “I’m from the government and I’m here to help”! - Ronald Reagan
@sanguinembwun6475 yep, they fuck up basically everything thing they touch from Schools and Colleges to Healthcare and insurance
I like the way proportional changed from the understood meaning to the literal meaning in math, where anything is proportional if you multiply by the right factor.
Iran never seriously f*cked with America's boat again though, so it obviously worked.
@@robertsmith4681 They are right now....
@@Oxley016 And just like last time America is in the process of playing wack a mole with their stuff while a full blown CBG is on the way ...
@@robertsmith4681 Plus ships from about 12 other countries. Royal Navy has a Destroyer and Frigate currently in the area as well as our Amphib strike group in the Mediterranean I believe.
@@Oxley016 Break out the popcorn friend, it's about to get real ...
They effectively raised petrol prices... That cost American consumers a lot of money. It probably wasn't proportional enough.
Praying mantis round 2 coming soon! One should not poke bears with sticks,they may get bitten!
Russian ship, "We're just here for pictures"😂😂😂
You should watch a vid about all the types of Praying Mantis. They're fascinating and are really helpful as the destroy harmful bugs that destroy crops.
@rama30 the way Mantises camouflage themselves is truly amazing. Good predators…eat a bunch of “bad” bugs.
And they're BADASS AS FUCK too! They can kill birds, mice, lizards, and even small frogs (though that can go both ways) and snakes!
@@WinVistenSo true! They are the Komodo Dragons of the insect world.
I have seen this video a dozen times. It gets better with every reaction video I see. I love seeing peoples reactions to this story lol
You need to do the one about the USS Texas and the New Jersey by fat electrician as well as the Marine Corps one trust me you would laugh
A phrase that quite a few of us Americans grew up with is "you better not start a fight, but if someone else starts one, you better damn well finish it". I feel like that's what happened here
I believe that this situation exemplifies " F around and find out "!
Praying Mantis are a predatory insect, it utilizes camouflage and immobility. It has two front legs that look like sabers to capture it's prey. They are very effective hunters
Rough conversion if you're unaware. The 23mm anti-aircraft guns have an inner barrel diameter of 23 mm, 25.4mm = 1 inch. The barrel of the 5 inch guns of the naval vessel is slightly larger that 5x that of the 23mm anti aircraft guns (and carry vastly larger payloads, and can carry more varied types of ordinance [High Explosive, High Explosive Armor Piercing, Armor piercing, Incendiary, etc]
The Praying Mantis is a very specific group of insects, its name comes from how it stands perfectly still, as if in prayer or meditation, and its posture. It sits still enough to me mistaken by other insects and creatures up to the size of a hummingbird for "just a stick or branch" the mantis continues its pretense until the prey gets close enough, and with lightning fast reaction bursts into action grabbing and incapacitating, if not immediately killing its prey. Praying mantis have been documented to kill mice, some varieties of snakes and just about anything smaller. That something about 40-70 mm long, with a body under 7mm in diameter and weighing under 10 grams, can kill an adult mouse which is at least as long (not counting the tail) much broader, much heavier, is rather impressive. I would place it akin to an adult house cat taking down a large dog such as a German Shepherd in a 1 vs 1. (the last comparison is purely my opinion based on my limited familiarity with the mantis.)
A mantis is an aggressive insect that cuts the heads off of its prey
Praying mantis is an insect like a grasshopper but larger. Praying refers to the arms looks like the mantis is praying with arms bent. However it's an omnivore that will attack other insects to eat them. It's pretty vicious. I've heard they've also been used in betting games in 3rd word countries where the laws are not as strict.
I think of the plot of Independence Day (the one with the aliens) and wonder how long humanity would have lasted if they had used caution and aimed for "proportionality" when dealing with the invading force.
But they did, the aliens were planning to exterminate us and had killed unknown thousands in their attacks.
we killed unknown thousands making sure they couldn't continue their attacks. the fact it may or may not have resulted in the genocide of their species is entirely secondary to the objective of making those attacks cease.
Love your reaction video! Thank you for your appreciation. We have a bunch of Americans we wish we could send away from our country for a few months to a place of our choice to help engender a bit of appreciation on their part...
“God Bless America”…land that I love…❤️🎶
This young lady is the cutest girl I have seen in my 82 years!
The UK used to be the western world's (UN) (World Police) until WWII when the USA took on the mantle!
The USA industrial / military base exceeded the UK by the 1920's so it was only a matter of time anyway!
The UK now helps the USA with diplomacy and advises it with grandpa / dad stories of "In my day ...."
Love seeing all the new faces getting introduced to The Fat Electrician! He's THE best storyteller out there! Well researched topics with a delivery that only a grunt can give! Enjoy his stuff, it's fantastic!
19:17 Like the British you rule the sea you rule the World.
Well, just like anything else situation matters. Not all of us are so careful to not have innocent people involved in our retribution, but overall American service members are good people. They just hate dictators and are very well trained and equipped to do something about it. We are typically seen as evil in theae countries but without us playing police the world would have never seen the explosive development it did after WW2.
Don't kick a bee hive 😂
The bin Laden raid was titled: "Operation Neptune Spear" ~ the Hollywood movie based on it is: "Zero Dark Thirty." The US has by far the largest military in the world. Bigger than China, Iran & Russia combined. Great vid btw ~ cheers to Modi!! ✌
you and your associate are so calm and chill paaji. Love it!
Bet no other countries lets Sikhs be themselves and fight proudly! I’m proud of the country I fought for!
Praying Mantis: Insects: They have triangular heads with bulging eyes supported on flexible necks. Their elongated bodies may or may not have wings, but all have forelegs that are greatly enlarged and adapted for catching and gripping prey; their upright posture, while remaining stationary with forearms folded, has led to the common name Praying Mantis.
Just stumbled on the channel and this video, it was a lot of fun learning along with you about this event I had never heard of either. xD
In my opinion, the idea of "proportional" response is to communicate, "What you did, really annoyed me, and..." like 'The Hulk' character might say, "...don't make me mad, you wouldn't like it if I get mad."
I agree, no idea why they called it Praying Mantis.... more like poking the hornet's nest.
Why do you think Iran is directly trying to avoid hitting our ships now 😂
Thank you for this video. Subscribed.
One way to look America and being "prepositional" in its retaliation is to compare it to the stereotypical meal portion serving sizes compared most other countries. Generally around a 1
I actually enjoyed this version better than your solo version. Well done brother.
The key here is properly understanding the word 'proportional' as Reagan used it. 'Proportional' actually means 'if you stop being evil right now, we will not be forced to carpet bomb your entire Persian Gulf beach front...and we may even let you keep a few fishing boats'.....but, if you keep on pushing, you'll be fishing with rod and reel from the shore...so you 'proportionally' have about 5-minutes to decide your future ocean based economic future for the next half-century....
Hey, I love you guys! Much love to India from the US. ❤
Iran: "we messed up an American boat!"
Japan: "No, no,no...Don't do that, your just going to make them mad. We did that once,and they dropped the sun on us. Twice."
Im from the US and USA and India are like brothers and sisters of the world.
I'm American and this just blew me away, I was young adult at that time. The things they can do scare me!
In fairness...
Iran touched our boats.
Our _entire Navy _*_exists_* because a couple mf-ers in northwest Africa made a centuries-long career of either touchin' boats, or being paid off to not touch boats. And started touchin' our boats.
So our Navy went over there and convinced them changing careers entirely for good would be their best move by stating very persuasive and _emphatic_ arguments with the mouths of our cannons.
This set in stone, permanently, in 1815, two ironclad rules about the US. "We do not negotiate with t errorists." And "Do not touch our boats."
Every armed conflict in US history since has begun US involvement one of two ways:
-Someone touched our boats.
Or
-Someone touched our folks.
We do not like the former.
We *_really_* do not like the latter.
Both these things _really_ make us get _proportionate._
Iran now very near to having nuclear weapons, and rather than attacking shipping themselves, supports proxies such as militias and terrorists, to attack ships and close shipping lanes.
The U.S. doesn’t want a war with Iran, and doesn’t want a war with anyone.
The weapons are a lot more lethal now, and likely rather than aircraft, drones are likely to be utilized.
The confrontations are likely to become much more frequent, and the stakes very much higher.
Harpoon missiles were designed to be fired from one surface ship to another surface ship. They , in much updated form, are still being deployes on US Navy ships.
Up until 1979, Iran was a close ally of the US and bought lots of American military hardware. Then there was a change in management and relations turned frosty. That's why Iran had Harpoons anf F-4s. The land-based antiship Sillkworms were from China, though.
The fat electrician is funny 😂
Former MM1 and I was there for the fun. General sentiment was "well, sharks gotta eat too". Good ol' days.
1:1, 2:1,6:1, 10:1, these are all proportions. Did anyone ever specify what the proportion is? I think if it was enough to make them think twice in the future, it was enough, and if it was not enough to make them think twice in the future ( as we know it was not), it was not enough.
Once again, we can see that being stupid is not a minor affliction but stupid goes all the way to the bone.
Yup a praying mantis is a carnivorous bug. They get about 4 to 6 inches or 10 to 15 centimeters and will try to eat anything. A fitting critter to name a revenge mission after.
Thanks guys 😊. Happy holidays
We tend to go a little over board sometimes.. But we get things done for just about any country that needs help. Sad thing , we don't always feel the same about our own people.. From this American ; May many Blessings be with India and her people.🙏🇺🇸
This is a fun channel to react to, you guys will like it
I was a part of this actually. Nice reaction
You know, once upon a time the Japanese messed with our ships... we just cannot tolerate someone messing with our ships. It is a national character flaw.
We have a saying in the US military. We don’t want to fight but once we do,I promise you someone else will be raising you children
Right on!
The loss of life and the injuries to personnel on both sides is to be lamented. The Iranian military personnel had families and loved ones. However, if you're going to pick up a weapon and use it, the other side will as well. That's something the Americans understand very well. The Russians took their photos and were perfectly safe. There've been days where America took its share of lumps as well. The nature of war is what should stop people from starting one. I hope the brave combatants on the losing side may rest in peace. Surely, we can all find ways to live with each other.
Kumbaya...
U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt said, "Speak softly and carry a big stick - you will go far." The only problem with that is if you never show what the stick can do people stop fearing it. Bullies are going to be bullies no matter where on this planet you live. Im 51 and i have never met a bully that didnt change their tune after they got smacked.
For anyone that wants to talk about "proportionality", I advise you to read a chapter or two about Islamic Mughal Empire and what they did in India.
Mao, Stalin, Hitler and Leopold combined... and then some!
I'm not American, but I thank the Universe that the US exists.
15:48 Mark! Ahem. Actually, in that aircraft, they sit side-by-side! 😁 (See "Flight of the Intruder" or the pertinent episode of "Archer" to see what that arrangement looks like, in a fun way.)
Back When🇺🇸When America Was Great 🇺🇸
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My Dad served on the USS Enterprise! CVN-65 operation Sea Orbit ! Any other Enterprise men out there reading this give me a shout out !
7:54 "Proportional. You can never be proportional in war." That's exactly the point. Proportional responses are ineffective in winning wars. But they may be useful when the objective is to avoid an escalation or a war altogether.
"But now America gets angry." lol they know us so well. 😂
As an aside, India is the second largest non American functional Navy on the planet.
China has us all beat by numbers but they include their life boats and fishing trollers but the point being, one super carrier group can delete nearly all navy on the sea... And we have 12 and growing .
Also to explain US military naming conversations, specifically for the US Navy,
They use a 2 or 3 word random name generator and just go with whatever it pops out with.
Like "Classification" "Word one" and or "word two"
Operation Praying... Mantis..
Operation Paperclip
Project Monroe and so on... Or some general is like "I have come up with a name and you will call it that or else"
Yup, and America's Carrier groups are nuclear powered and can be out and about in the seas for much longer than any other nation's carriers. This also means they are also more capable of projecting America's military Power, far from home.
It's not 12 and growing. The U.S. Navy is replacing the Nimitz class carriers with the new Ford class carriers.
navy and airforce is obsolete old school after hypersonic missiles which sink the carriers with jets choppers and 5k trans marines aboard. forces are cool but you need to depend on advance icbms hypersonics and drones lol
@@ariaspes3842You *might* want to watch Habitual Linecrosser’s recent video on Hypersonic missiles. Just sayin’.