Even BOSA is more concerned about her than asking media to help track down the real victim of this saga. The woman who s identity was stolen??? The media is to blame for fueling identity theft in SA
When you are born you get a name and a surname without your knowledge right so how is this her fault. Because even me I share a name and surname with someone else the only difference is surname has an H and his does have that H but when you pronounce them it's one word
@@thandobheka6371 she has a Nigerian and Mozambican flag on her twitter profile, so you mean she did not know her mom is Mozambican? She just guessed the country
He annoys me no end. He always has a smug "know it all" expression on his face. And has the knack to talk down to South African's like we are slow. He clearly has zero compassion for the South African mother and child whose identities were stolen. Not wanting criminality, fraudulent documentation/identities and undocumented people in our country is not Afrophobic. We are some of the most welcoming and kindest people you can find but being kind does not mean we must be doormats! Home Affairs must dig deeper. There is more to this story
This woman is Nigerian, married to a Nigerian and behaved Nigerian and Nigerian so I South Africa were proud that she was fraudulently participating in Miss South Africa. I strongly agree that she knowingly participated fraudulently in . miss South Africa and all the evidence is out there and she must just face the music
So Mr Maimane you are saying she can apply for citizenship? Her mother committed a crime, for 23 years she benefitted from the crime while a SAn was disadvantaged by that crime. Now we must reward her with citizenship? Sir on what grounds? Ours is to find the SAn who was negatively affected and assist her, she is the real victim here.
Feel sorry for victim whom's her ID Number was shared. Am suspecting two types of finger prints were found under this young lady's ID. We indeed have to worry about a South African who's her ID was stolen...
Musi is one failed politician who is clueless of his role. His arrogance to say she can legally apply for citizenship. One cannot right a wrong by doing another wrong. I feel for her but her role has resulted in another South African suffering. We need this corrected. Do not call Sans names like Afro or Zeno when they are only fighting for what is rightfully theirs. Hope the person whose ID was stolen ad all the otthers who are now discovering that they have been done an injustice by home affairs (who should be held accounatble) is compensated.
She can't be rewarded for the crime she benefitted from. She is not even remorseful to the people who have suffered for her benefit. I didn't expect her to vilify SANS for her mothers crime.Stating her and her families safety???? No one has threatened them as far as I know its just been she needs to remove herself now because we are a danger to her she must be deported for her safety. Finish and klaar
Corruption is the order of the day in our country. It has become the norm. We need more leaders like Gayton Mckenzie who are serious abt tackling the issue of illegal immigrants in our country. Abahambe!
Exactly. Crime has consequences, these are the consequences. There is a South African who has not been benefiting from being a South African because her identity was stolen. I stand with that person, not this girl, period.
I worked for department Health as Skills Development Manager 95% of students who were given busaries to study medicine in Cuba and South Africa they had documents but you could see they were not citizens and there is nothing you can do. She was unforunate but South African Government funding 98% of it goes to foreigners. Even lost my job 6 years stuck at home, and without salary, I was forced to resign just because I was speaking about fraud taking place internal. but in the end, we all Africans.sorry, girl, for what you went through, sending you a hug
South African leaders always fails to confront the source of the conflicts between SAns and Naija ppl. Calling South African names won't fix the underlying problem. Both governments need to really come with the solution. Engage Nigerian government for it's ppl.
The Nigerian president is quiet while his people are causing chaos all around the world. He is too busy eating corrupt money to think of solutions for Nigeria and it’s people
If you have concerns they call you Xenophobic, he feels sorry for this girl but what about the victim who's identity was stolen? At the end of the day Facts Don't Care About Feelings, just because this Musi character feels sorry for this girl doesn't erase the crime that was committed..
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
That person is 1. A black South African 2. Probably of a lower class. So these 2 points alone mean that they are the least regarded people in SA by our politicians, celebrities and media. A combination of these 2 statuses automatically makes you a sacrificial lamb in South Africa. Used and abused to please other nationalities.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
Mmusi Maiemane, what about the South African mother whose Identity Document was stolen by Adetshina’s Immigrant mother ? Do you not feel sorry for her?
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
So you classify other Africans living in South Africa as #Immigrants ? Unbelievable. I remember how Nkrumah passed an irreversible law which allowed South Africans to benefit from free education in Ghana. This law was implemented and continued into the Era of JJ Rawlings… I attended an expensive private Girls boarding school with several Sputh Africans who were never labeled Immigrants. We were rather fascinated with them and loved them. These children were all over Ghana in various schools and received adequate housing as well… Nkrumah deliberately held untouchable funds in trust for their upkeep… Personally South Africans scare me due to their hatred of other Africans who take residency in their part of Africa… Such a shame… 🥺😢
Chidimma also knows the truth that her and family are illegal immigrants. Where were her aunts, uncles, grandmothers etc . Were they all in South Africa or Mozambique and Nigeria ? She's nor an innocent victim here .
I am disappointed on BOSA leader baze banda oMalema in our country..Thanks ke vele they'll never get my Vote..Thanks PA for putting SAfricans first wthout any fear.. 🫡
May the Almighty bless the DA with more of us who choose to vote them into government and shun all those who harbor bitterness that was caused by those who totally aren't part of the today-DA. I was never there when all the stories told unfold. Why would I habe a negative perspective of the DA today when they are fixing the mess I was born into. Fellow South Africans, learn to appreciate all the sleeplessness all these DA people endured to fix the mess caused by the African National Criminals!!!
If it wasn't PA and Gayton Mckenzie that basically forced the minister to look at it he would have done nothing he is not serious about illegal imigrants they need to go and we as people need to know when all of them will be gone
Fusek! Dr is not doing anything, the DA minister when approached about Chidimma issue he said the they will not intervene, it was the application for the verification of Chidimma that forced the Home Affairs to act. This DA nonsense minister on his first speech he told the nation that the first ting he was going to do was to speed the working visas. That was what this Helen Suzman Minister was cincern about, not South Africans. The DA is dangerous.
I don't know I don't trust Home Affairs process I'm half Nigerian and half south African and I had such massive issues collecting my second id after my first one was stolen when I was robbed, so they couldn't verify my citizenship status because they couldn't find my mom on my profile
South Africa. We still have a long road to go. In Some countries they give citizenship to those who are doing sports and public services. Surely South Africa need to change the system
This situation has unfolded as expected. Miss South Africa is a symbol of national pride, embodying the spirit and heart of our country. She serves as an inspiration to the youth and represents South Africa on an international stage. It is crucial to understand that this role is not merely about beauty; it is about representing our nation with integrity and awareness of the challenges we face. The candidate chosen for Miss South Africa must be someone whose heart beats for South Africa, someone who understands and engages with the country's issues, and acts as a diplomat. Finalists often demonstrate their commitment through community initiatives and public service. Unfortunately, in the case of Chidima, there has been no evidence of such patriotism or dedication to South Africa, whether through her content or public initiatives. Moreover, the matter of identity theft is a grave injustice to the innocent. There is a young South African girl whose identity has been stolen due to the actions of Chidima’s mother. This young person is denied the basic rights of citizenship, including access to education, property, and more. Who will speak for her? This issue goes far beyond beauty; it involves serious legal and ethical concerns. South Africans have the right to express their opinions and grievances, as freedom of speech is a fundamental right. The Minister has stated that efforts will be made to find the victim of this crime. It is imperative that the rightful winner, one who truly represents the values and spirit of South Africa, takes her place. This is not just about a title; it’s about honoring the sacrifices made for our country's freedom and upholding its values.
How about feeling sorry for the real victims here? The one who's identity was stolen. And again no foreigner is intitled to anything. This coconut will never amount to anything. DA did well by firing him.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
You know this thing is less worrying than that person living in a shack and voted for ANC for the past 20 years and there is no change our focus in SA is non existent
South Africa is a green pasture for our neighbors who have irresponsible leaders hence they run to our country for better life. African leaders are only concerned about their stomachs, friends, families as well as their cronies. They talk long term goals to make us sleep which is nonsensical. AU and SADC are are just talk shops that yield nothing and going nowhere. Planning without time lines will take you to a Dreamland.
You don't like been called xenophobic,but the reality is south Africans are basically acting like one,no matter how you say it,the world see south Africans as xenophobic, especially from Black south Africans.
You don't like been called xenophobic,but the truth is south Africans are acting like one.The whole world knows Black south Africans are xenophobic,no matter how south Africans defends themselves,you can't change People perception about south Africans,because they never learn,but kept on doing it.Who is fooling who
@@ExcitedCorn-vy8kl you are not xenophobic indeed,but,you guys are acting like one.Actions speaks louder than words,you can say all things to defend yourself,but,what people sees about south Africans all over the world matters,and it is a shame that Black south Africans focus on black Africans,and fails to focus on getting back their lands,move away from living in shacks over 30 years ago, instead they focus on other people personal problems,abd forget their own us that not stupidity?
He just sealed the deal in letting us know that he is not fit to govern our country. If he cannot enforce the rules in our constitution but is indirectly looking to change the laws in making it easy for all migrants just coming into the country then I will definately not vote for Bosa or any party affiliated to Mmusi. Citizenship in our country requires either an absolutely rare skill which we do not have, eg(physicists, engineers with doctorates, etc), not degreed professionals as we already have alot of those who are South African and unemployed. Or they have to bring a substantial amount of money and invest directly into the country. There needs to be proof of that. Only if you meet the criteria then citizenship should be considered.
The parents of this girl forgot that crime does not pay and they have caused their daughter permanent embarrassment. Some foreigners have taken advantage of our poor systems and lack of law and order in our country.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
1.Chidimma Adetshina is a South African and did not commit any crime. 2.Her parents are not South African and ""they may"" have committed a crime according to Minister SHRIBER, but investigations' continue. 3.Current miss South Africa is a European 4.THe mother who is ""allegedly"" is a victim of crime, should be Fully compensated by the Government for all those 20years+ of loss.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
I agree. That's like rewarding her and her parents for something they done wrong. So other foreigners will rather go that route of corruption because eventually, their children would also get citizenship Chidimma Adetshina
"As stated in the Bible, children will suffer the consequences of their parents' wrong deeds." "A car bought with stolen money is as much stolen as the money with which it was bought." Emotions alone typically don't resolve problems. It’s important to focus on the individuals impacted by identity theft. Their well-being and security should be a priority, and efforts should be made to support them in resolving any issues and preventing further harm.
Only Patriotic Alliance does matter to South Africans other useless political parties are mot for us South Africans. My vote is PA not any other useless party who doesn't put South Africa 1st.
Totally agree! He is definitely not there for damage control done to the victims of stolen identity, a South African child. Instead he is there to advocate for Miss Nigeria Chidimma to be legalised in South Africa 😮
If your parents have comited crime you immediately become part of that crime if I understand what you are saying that s very wrong you are not criminalized for the crime of other people or family members
@@jimmyshindano4131 agree. She was a baby and had no decision in the choice of what her parents did. Poor girl. People are so ugly and unkind. If it's not racist, it's zenophobia or jealousy. 😢😢
Musa is so disappointing no direction to go a man has left the building of DA and fell of the Bosa train to nowhere he stills know nothing about the lower class 😢
The would be president of south africa who campaigned as an independent failed to garner more than two seats in parliament because he lied to himself as being liked by everyone and thought he will millions of votes. Forget it baba and now you call us xenophobes for defending our country. You, the DA project, are so useless thats why Helen Zille dismissed and opted for matricless Steenhuizen. Rubbish xenophobia diatribe, mmusi👎👎👎
The final demise of Bosa starts here guys. He sympathize with her but never mention a South African mother who was robbed of her citizenship for 23 years😢
Musi is talking nonsense as usual, how can she apply for citizenship on what basis? her mother and father are not South African so on what grounds does she apply for South African citizenship. She can apply for a Nigerian or a Mozambican citizenship. Why Musi is not feeling sorry for the mother and child that identity was stolen??? Am glad they kick this guy out of the DA because he only talks nonsense
Yeah but she has lived as a SAn her whole life. Her education and loans. Who will pay for her debts. They must also sort out the South African woman and child that were effected
BOSA President I respect you,you are making sense,I love you whenever you talk,you are a man who speaks sense,just like Malema,and other well educated politicians,not illiterate and convicts like Kenny Kunene,and Gayton McKenzie.
No Bosa you still want her to stay in South Africa all foreiners must go back and fight for their freedom like we did you don't want crime to stop stop put foreiners before South Africa
One thing we can all agree about is" this African lady is very very beautiful and super intelligent too", her status cannot be reduced by a printed piece of paper. One love one people one Africa!! No apology needed!! We love you Chichi!! 😗🥰😍😋
Thank you, Mr Maimane. This is so sad for Miss Adetshina. She's a victim, really, when one considers all factors. Blessings to her in her journey forward.
This guy is the most sensible, most representable and wise in politics. He speaks fair and professional. What a representative he could be for our country. But we rather choose lies and ones that only say what they know we want to hear and never give us what we need.
She must go to Nigeria and ask ikwes to join miss ikhwe competition To all who say South Africa we are xenophobic yes we are as long as Nigerians are in this country xenophobic will never end
Just don't kill us, apart from the killing you got nothing that we envy, just leave your life and set boundaries, we will respect that. Don't kill us as before
Musu, i used to resoect you but please please please South Africa MUST be for South Africans.If Chidimas Mum has committed fraud, she will have to suffer the consequences.Stop stop and please stop.Let me remind you Numbers 14.18 (NIV),,,,"The Lord punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generatiin"
The evil chidinma you called it ? Chidinma knows nothing what you're accusing her about. In my Igbo culture and aswell as in a civilized world a child doesn't inherit his /her parents sin.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
Without an insider , that fraud wouldn't have been possible . There was a collaboration in the art. Chidinma, mother might've paid a huge sum of money to got access to the document
Yes, he is very wise and intelligent. Not like the bunch of idiots who are short sighted and self destructive without knowing it. They think rejecting other black people is going to help them in the long run.
What about the person who's ID document stolen no one is saying anything about it. The poor person suffered a great deal for a period of time meaning 20+- without an ID. This Chidindindin benefited through NSFSAS studying and enjoying all the benefits that goes with it and we're expected to keep mum. Most probably her mother is still receiving social grant as we speak. What if the owner of the ID was killed or still struggling to obtain the ID because of the incompetent home affairs?
Yazini this story is so strange. It reminds me of those stories where siblings start dating each other only to find out they are related. Inobu “dlozi lami” phakathi lento.
I agree she isn’t but attacking for something her mother did is pointless. And I have no sympathy for her cause I’m sure as she grew up she must have figured it out, we should focus on getting justice for the person who’s identity was stolen
Maimane speaks like a leader, not those ones that grandstand and hoodwink our people with theatrics. When a society is angry, a leader must calm the situation not fuel the fire.
Great Leaders speak the truth.Mmusi 🙏🏽 even if it’s against majority views she born here in Soweto She doesn’t know nigeria where she has to go?let’s be fair!
He's so stale in his way of thinking. She is innocent,we get it, but there is also another victim out there whose identity was stolen. Who knows what opportunities were missed by this South African, who will never get a re-do of her life.
Taking foreign money from foreign donors makes politicians the biggest fools around. You'll even say the sky is green on a sunny day whilst we all know its blue 😂😂😅
Yes, our system is NOT strong enough and yes it must be fixed but it doesn't justify BREAKING THE LAW. In other countries when you break the law you face the Music or deported, they should too.
No one is asking where she was born, making a case about the cub by persecuting the lioness What if Mozambique and Nigeria says no citizenship, Where will she go?
@@givenmabussi what I mean is South Africa is a country with it's own cultures and policies that govern it's own Country. We cannot have a miss Nigerian as miss South Africa in South Africa.
I feel sorry for the mother whose identity was stolen what is happening to her children are they registered in South Africa 🇿🇦 or they don't have birth certificates like most people who losed their edentity to fraudsters? I also feel sorry for this lady if she didn't know this? But my question is if the father says they arrived in South Africa in 2010 she knows something about this thing: she was 10yrs in 2010 and you usually understand things when you're 10years😢
AS A BLACK AMERICAN I AGREE WITH MIMUSI. HE IS A COMPASSIONATE LEADER AND A REAL HUMAN WITH EMPATHY. HE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE REST OF AFRICA FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS AND THE BLACK STRUGGLE FOR LIBERATION. TO WATCH THIS LEVEL OF HATRED FROM BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS TOWARDS OTHER AFRICANS IS SAD TO WATCH.
Please show us receipts,I know SADAC region were holding our exiled then ANC leadership, we paid our debt...our people were kept in camps and all people come to South Africa without the rules they set to our leaders. Mr.American we know.alot more.about our journey to freedom than you think,we grew up here during riots,teargas fights,curfews etc.Don't speak of what you didn't experience.Everyone wants tell us how to behave...go and speak up and talk nonsense in America about your own drug ridden and homeless population Mumu xem.😂😂❤🇿🇦❤️🇿🇦❤️
No one is talking about the person whose identity was stolen, the government must compensate that person 😢
This is really concerning 😢 they care about foreigners before ours
PA is talking about it and they are saying they will find the person whose identity was stolen
That's for sure I think the foreigners should be the ones who must vote.
5:15 No one talks about those whose land was stolen by the Dutch,no compensation.
Not only that all the government officials involved must be exposed.
How does an identity get stolen anyway?
Even BOSA is more concerned about her than asking media to help track down the real victim of this saga. The woman who s identity was stolen??? The media is to blame for fueling identity theft in SA
Shame to those who voted for him.
When you are born you get a name and a surname without your knowledge right so how is this her fault. Because even me I share a name and surname with someone else the only difference is surname has an H and his does have that H but when you pronounce them it's one word
They said she might have ,iqiniso alika veli
@@thandobheka6371 she has a Nigerian and Mozambican flag on her twitter profile, so you mean she did not know her mom is Mozambican? She just guessed the country
@@thandobheka6371😮
Does this guy think about a person who's identity has been stolen and is unable to pursue a full life with the rights they deserve
Doesn't seem like it even crossed his mind.
@@Unknown-individual SOO OUT OF TOUCH AND DESPRATE FOR APPROVAL FROM THE OTHER GROUP, HE MUST NOT BE ORGINAL SAN
He annoys me no end. He always has a smug "know it all" expression on his face. And has the knack to talk down to South African's like we are slow. He clearly has zero compassion for the South African mother and child whose identities were stolen. Not wanting criminality, fraudulent documentation/identities and undocumented people in our country is not Afrophobic. We are some of the most welcoming and kindest people you can find but being kind does not mean we must be doormats! Home Affairs must dig deeper. There is more to this story
THIS IS WHY HE DID NOT ACHIEVE ELECTION VICTORY AND WILL CONTINUE NOT TO BE RELEVANT.
What I ran to the comments to say
This woman is Nigerian, married to a Nigerian and behaved Nigerian and Nigerian so I South Africa were proud that she was fraudulently participating in Miss South Africa. I strongly agree that she knowingly participated fraudulently in . miss South Africa and all the evidence is out there and she must just face the music
I am disappointed even the minister of GNU is starting to protect her.
Another 1 forgetting that he needs south african votes🤦♂️his even forgetting about the injustice done to legal SA mother and her children💔
maimane is same WhatsApp group with malema...they don't deserve any SA votes.
Leave him, he wont get votes for his stupidity.
Where is that person? Show us that person you claim suffered from this.
@@XPR2019out there
So coz he needs vote he should be foolish in his thinking right. Or he needs to please you for him to get your vote.
So Mr Maimane you are saying she can apply for citizenship? Her mother committed a crime, for 23 years she benefitted from the crime while a SAn was disadvantaged by that crime. Now we must reward her with citizenship? Sir on what grounds? Ours is to find the SAn who was negatively affected and assist her, she is the real victim here.
Feel sorry for victim whom's her ID Number was shared.
Am suspecting two types of finger prints were found under this young lady's ID.
We indeed have to worry about a South African who's her ID was stolen...
Musi is one failed politician who is clueless of his role. His arrogance to say she can legally apply for citizenship. One cannot right a wrong by doing another wrong. I feel for her but her role has resulted in another South African suffering. We need this corrected. Do not call Sans names like Afro or Zeno when they are only fighting for what is rightfully theirs. Hope the person whose ID was stolen ad all the otthers who are now discovering that they have been done an injustice by home affairs (who should be held accounatble) is compensated.
She was born in this country and she didn't commit any fraud the name and surname were given to her at birth so the parents are at fault not her
She can't be rewarded for the crime she benefitted from. She is not even remorseful to the people who have suffered for her benefit. I didn't expect her to vilify SANS for her mothers crime.Stating her and her families safety???? No one has threatened them as far as I know its just been she needs to remove herself now because we are a danger to her she must be deported for her safety. Finish and klaar
@@talifhaninetshaulo8651 what did she do.so you mean as soon as she was born she went home affairs and committed fraud.
Where are those who criticized Gayton McKenzie? He was right after all😅
Corruption is the order of the day in our country. It has become the norm. We need more leaders like Gayton Mckenzie who are serious abt tackling the issue of illegal immigrants in our country. Abahambe!
Mackenzie is not black after all..during apartheid his skin was regarded better than blacks, even privileges went his way..😅
@@costergumede9457we don't talk about black here we talk about the law and you come with your stupidly comment Futsek
@@costergumede9457so? What does that have to do with the subject at hand?
@@costergumede9457I see a black fat dude when I look at him though
We need to investigate the Human Rights Commission
100% right and their citizdnship
she must blame her mom.
Exactly. Crime has consequences, these are the consequences. There is a South African who has not been benefiting from being a South African because her identity was stolen. I stand with that person, not this girl, period.
I worked for department Health as Skills Development Manager 95% of students who were given busaries to study medicine in Cuba and South Africa they had documents but you could see they were not citizens and there is nothing you can do. She was unforunate but South African Government funding 98% of it goes to foreigners. Even lost my job 6 years stuck at home, and without salary, I was forced to resign just because I was speaking about fraud taking place internal. but in the end, we all Africans.sorry, girl, for what you went through, sending you a hug
Fight for your rights please lobby anti corruption groups such as Afriforum, whoever got rid of you because you are vocal must face the courts.
This is a sad state of affairs.
Would it not be obvious in Cuba since only a few students go
Everywhere if you fight corruption you become a victim, and label as a troubled maker😢😢 wow I blame Mandela for what is happening in our country.
@@nomzamojele9713 This knew.matswantle ka bontsi ba rometswe Cuba? Ka ditaxe tsa rona.?
Maimanè ģa s itse sepe.O tibisitse goja tax fele.
South African leaders always fails to confront the source of the conflicts between SAns and Naija ppl. Calling South African names won't fix the underlying problem. Both governments need to really come with the solution. Engage Nigerian government for it's ppl.
The Nigerian president is quiet while his people are causing chaos all around the world. He is too busy eating corrupt money to think of solutions for Nigeria and it’s people
There is no conflict btwn South Africans and Nigerians😂😂😂
If you have concerns they call you Xenophobic, he feels sorry for this girl but what about the victim who's identity was stolen? At the end of the day Facts Don't Care About Feelings, just because this Musi character feels sorry for this girl doesn't erase the crime that was committed..
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
Do you people think about the person whos identity was stolen or to yojll its all about this foreigners 😮
That person is
1. A black South African
2. Probably of a lower class.
So these 2 points alone mean that they are the least regarded people in SA by our politicians, celebrities and media. A combination of these 2 statuses automatically makes you a sacrificial lamb in South Africa. Used and abused to please other nationalities.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
Mmusi Maiemane, what about the South African mother whose Identity Document was stolen by Adetshina’s Immigrant mother ? Do you not feel sorry for her?
Is Home Affairs unable to find that mother?
@@contactprolive4195They are able they don't want to do it because she contributes nothing in our economy. She is not sell anything illegal nje.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
So you classify other Africans living in South Africa as #Immigrants ? Unbelievable.
I remember how Nkrumah passed an irreversible law which allowed South Africans to benefit from free education in Ghana. This law was implemented and continued into the Era of JJ Rawlings…
I attended an expensive private Girls boarding school with several Sputh Africans who were never labeled Immigrants. We were rather fascinated with them and loved them.
These children were all over Ghana in various schools and received adequate housing as well… Nkrumah deliberately held untouchable funds in trust for their upkeep…
Personally South Africans scare me due to their hatred of other Africans who take residency in their part of Africa…
Such a shame… 🥺😢
She's a beneficiary of the crime though
Like white south africans and their land no?
@@curtis-dj5bp exactly.
@@curtis-dj5bpwould you like to cry on someone's shoulder.
Xenophobia, xenophobia, xenophobia... Crime is a crime full stop!
Chidimma also knows the truth that her and family are illegal immigrants. Where were her aunts, uncles, grandmothers etc . Were they all in South Africa or Mozambique and Nigeria ? She's nor an innocent victim here .
Is she not a citizen of south africa?
@@bill-zu3cz She's not because both her parents were illegal immigrants. Her mother actually committed a crime by stealing someone's identity .
Zille saw it long time ago that this one is a fool
Kikikikikiiki 🤣🤣🤣
strue
😂😂😂
True.
True 😂
She's not a commiter of a crime: she's an accomplice (her adult self knew about this)
I think so too
Guys take her to your country and leave us in peace...
@@thobekiledlamini slaves of the white man talking
I am disappointed on BOSA leader baze banda oMalema in our country..Thanks ke vele they'll never get my Vote..Thanks PA for putting SAfricans first wthout any fear.. 🫡
You mean white South Africans
The problem with these political parties like BoSA is their policies
And your stupidity crowns it all 😂😂😂
And your stupidity crowns it all 😂😂😂
At least a DA minister will start fixing home affairs
I can't believe DA will be getting my vote next election😢. Tannie Zille
@@SPM-uq4brwhen I grow up I want to vote for merit and not for personality.
May the Almighty bless the DA with more of us who choose to vote them into government and shun all those who harbor bitterness that was caused by those who totally aren't part of the today-DA. I was never there when all the stories told unfold. Why would I habe a negative perspective of the DA today when they are fixing the mess I was born into. Fellow South Africans, learn to appreciate all the sleeplessness all these DA people endured to fix the mess caused by the African National Criminals!!!
If it wasn't PA and Gayton Mckenzie that basically forced the minister to look at it he would have done nothing he is not serious about illegal imigrants they need to go and we as people need to know when all of them will be gone
Fusek! Dr is not doing anything, the DA minister when approached about Chidimma issue he said the they will not intervene, it was the application for the verification of Chidimma that forced the Home Affairs to act.
This DA nonsense minister on his first speech he told the nation that the first ting he was going to do was to speed the working visas. That was what this Helen Suzman Minister was cincern about, not South Africans. The DA is dangerous.
I don't know I don't trust Home Affairs process I'm half Nigerian and half south African and I had such massive issues collecting my second id after my first one was stolen when I was robbed, so they couldn't verify my citizenship status because they couldn't find my mom on my profile
South Africa. We still have a long road to go. In Some countries they give citizenship to those who are doing sports and public services. Surely South Africa need to change the system
This situation has unfolded as expected. Miss South Africa is a symbol of national pride, embodying the spirit and heart of our country. She serves as an inspiration to the youth and represents South Africa on an international stage. It is crucial to understand that this role is not merely about beauty; it is about representing our nation with integrity and awareness of the challenges we face.
The candidate chosen for Miss South Africa must be someone whose heart beats for South Africa, someone who understands and engages with the country's issues, and acts as a diplomat. Finalists often demonstrate their commitment through community initiatives and public service. Unfortunately, in the case of Chidima, there has been no evidence of such patriotism or dedication to South Africa, whether through her content or public initiatives.
Moreover, the matter of identity theft is a grave injustice to the innocent. There is a young South African girl whose identity has been stolen due to the actions of Chidima’s mother. This young person is denied the basic rights of citizenship, including access to education, property, and more. Who will speak for her? This issue goes far beyond beauty; it involves serious legal and ethical concerns.
South Africans have the right to express their opinions and grievances, as freedom of speech is a fundamental right. The Minister has stated that efforts will be made to find the victim of this crime. It is imperative that the rightful winner, one who truly represents the values and spirit of South Africa, takes her place. This is not just about a title; it’s about honoring the sacrifices made for our country's freedom and upholding its values.
Okay I’ve lost respect for Mmusi🙌🏽 done
Myself too I used to really respect him. But now NIL.
South Africans first
How about feeling sorry for the real victims here? The one who's identity was stolen. And again no foreigner is intitled to anything. This coconut will never amount to anything. DA did well by firing him.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
You know this thing is less worrying than that person living in a shack and voted for ANC for the past 20 years and there is no change our focus in SA is non existent
Maimane speaks like a leader.Not like populists who are opportunists
Shame to those who voted for BOSA.
Indeed it's a shame
South Africa is a green pasture for our neighbors who have irresponsible leaders hence they run to our country for better life. African leaders are only concerned about their stomachs, friends, families as well as their cronies. They talk long term goals to make us sleep which is nonsensical. AU and SADC are are just talk shops that yield nothing and going nowhere. Planning without time lines will take you to a Dreamland.
I'm sure she knew the truth about her mother. Her father must be investigated as well
We are NOT xenophobia but defending our South Africa Mmusi. Don't twist things!
Puppet as always
You don't like been called xenophobic,but the reality is south Africans are basically acting like one,no matter how you say it,the world see south Africans as xenophobic, especially from Black south Africans.
You don't like been called xenophobic,but the truth is south Africans are acting like one.The whole world knows Black south Africans are xenophobic,no matter how south Africans defends themselves,you can't change People perception about south Africans,because they never learn,but kept on doing it.Who is fooling who
You are xenophobic if you are not going to maintain the same energy when a white woman with parents from Europe or America enters Miss SA.
@@ExcitedCorn-vy8kl you are not xenophobic indeed,but,you guys are acting like one.Actions speaks louder than words,you can say all things to defend yourself,but,what people sees about south Africans all over the world matters,and it is a shame that Black south Africans focus on black Africans,and fails to focus on getting back their lands,move away from living in shacks over 30 years ago, instead they focus on other people personal problems,abd forget their own us that not stupidity?
He just sealed the deal in letting us know that he is not fit to govern our country. If he cannot enforce the rules in our constitution but is indirectly looking to change the laws in making it easy for all migrants just coming into the country then I will definately not vote for Bosa or any party affiliated to Mmusi. Citizenship in our country requires either an absolutely rare skill which we do not have, eg(physicists, engineers with doctorates, etc), not degreed professionals as we already have alot of those who are South African and unemployed. Or they have to bring a substantial amount of money and invest directly into the country. There needs to be proof of that. Only if you meet the criteria then citizenship should be considered.
The world does not work like that. You did not build the SA you are enjoying now. It was built by others that include foreigners
The parents of this girl forgot that crime does not pay and they have caused their daughter permanent embarrassment. Some foreigners have taken advantage of our poor systems and lack of law and order in our country.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
True. I agree as a non SA. There are still people willing to do such nonsense and I would not say they truly love their children by doing such.
1.Chidimma Adetshina is a South African and did not commit any crime.
2.Her parents are not South African and ""they may"" have committed a crime according to Minister SHRIBER, but investigations' continue.
3.Current miss South Africa is a European
4.THe mother who is ""allegedly"" is a victim of crime, should be Fully compensated by the Government for all those 20years+ of loss.
So Chidimna is South African but the current Miss SA with a valid ID and supporting documents is European?
Focus on the person who's identity has been stolen by this girl`s mother.
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
No No No. Shes not South African. You cannot say ahe should apply for citizenship when both her parents are foreigners. Youre not making sense.
This guy is sick
She can apply for permanent residency. Stop being inhumane.
Well your people in Europe do apply for citizenship. Abi you people don't leave your South African boundaries?
@Ammarbel91 south africans are like that especially towards their fellow blacks but it's white men they keep quite😂😂😂😂
I agree. That's like rewarding her and her parents for something they done wrong. So other foreigners will rather go that route of corruption because eventually, their children would also get citizenship Chidimma Adetshina
"As stated in the Bible, children will suffer the consequences of their parents' wrong deeds."
"A car bought with stolen money is as much stolen as the money with which it was bought."
Emotions alone typically don't resolve problems.
It’s important to focus on the individuals impacted by identity theft. Their well-being and security should be a priority, and efforts should be made to support them in resolving any issues and preventing further harm.
Only Patriotic Alliance does matter to South Africans other useless political parties are mot for us South Africans. My vote is PA not any other useless party who doesn't put South Africa 1st.
Im not surprised DA divorced Musi Maimane. He lacks logical and factual thinking
I agree with Kunene SAHRC is full of foreigners.
Musi please you are completely wrong her parents did wrong so how can you Musi support such crap
Totally agree! He is definitely not there for damage control done to the victims of stolen identity, a South African child. Instead he is there to advocate for Miss Nigeria Chidimma to be legalised in South Africa 😮
If your parents have comited crime you immediately become part of that crime if I understand what you are saying that s very wrong you are not criminalized for the crime of other people or family members
@@jimmyshindano4131 agree. She was a baby and had no decision in the choice of what her parents did. Poor girl. People are so ugly and unkind. If it's not racist, it's zenophobia or jealousy. 😢😢
Musa is so disappointing no direction to go a man has left the building of DA and fell of the Bosa train to nowhere he stills know nothing about the lower class 😢
The would be president of south africa who campaigned as an independent failed to garner more than two seats in parliament because he lied to himself as being liked by everyone and thought he will millions of votes. Forget it baba and now you call us xenophobes for defending our country. You, the DA project, are so useless thats why Helen Zille dismissed and opted for matricless Steenhuizen. Rubbish xenophobia diatribe, mmusi👎👎👎
Guptas had SA ID'S!!!!!!!!!! ZUMA not accountable
😂😂😂😂😂 landed on military airbase Bruv!
@@RB4286 even before that had BEE license to open business in SA🤔
Exactly. It's not fair that she was targeted like this😥
@@JM-rg9zs Just a year or two back a Chinese company won many SANRAL Tenders with BEE Certificate Level 1 etc.
Mandela welcomed Guptas, had dealings with them, why targeting Zuma
Who voted for bosa leave politics try something else
2026 and 2029 Coming just around the corner.. Goat will be separated from sheeps
At last, someone speaks with sense. Bravo Mmusi👏
Musi Maimane , please 🥺 don' label us Afrophobia , zenophobic.You are a leader
disowning souith africa born child and accepting indian born Guptas as citizens.
Exactly. She didn't deserve this witch hunt
Imagine
Well, her mother got found out. Therein lies the difference sir
Let her go to Nigeria or Mozambique, did they deny her?
The final demise of Bosa starts here guys. He sympathize with her but never mention a South African mother who was robbed of her citizenship for 23 years😢
Musi is talking nonsense as usual, how can she apply for citizenship on what basis? her mother and father are not South African so on what grounds does she apply for South African citizenship. She can apply for a Nigerian or a Mozambican citizenship. Why Musi is not feeling sorry for the mother and child that identity was stolen??? Am glad they kick this guy out of the DA because he only talks nonsense
It's sad, A south African mother and children who's identity was stolen is not talked about.no one is focusing on that.
Yeah but she has lived as a SAn her whole life. Her education and loans. Who will pay for her debts. They must also sort out the South African woman and child that were effected
Politicians aren't as well versed in the law as much as you think.
💯 agree with you he hates South Africans
This one is always useless
Agreed my leader!
Well done Mr Maimane for showing sound and true leadership.
100%
What leadership he is showing,this one is lost and irrelevant
BOSA President I respect you,you are making sense,I love you whenever you talk,you are a man who speaks sense,just like Malema,and other well educated politicians,not illiterate and convicts like Kenny Kunene,and Gayton McKenzie.
So disappointed by Mmusi
Now you know where BOSSA compassion lies.
Xenophobic no Maimane we doing the right thing. A South African suffered and she took the opportunities away from another potential miss South Africa
If she apply for citizenship she will join Miss South Africa again next year, yoh Jesu😅 I'm unable to can.
No Bosa you still want her to stay in South Africa all foreiners must go back and fight for their freedom like we did you don't want crime to stop stop put foreiners before South Africa
One thing we can all agree about is" this African lady is very very beautiful and super intelligent too", her status cannot be reduced by a printed piece of paper. One love one people one Africa!! No apology needed!! We love you Chichi!! 😗🥰😍😋
Until Nigerians stop selling drugs n human trafficking no unity in africa
Let her use her beauty in Nigeria, we have 12 beautiful South African ladies in the competition who will do us justice...bye to her biltong thighs
Amakwerekwere loves her not us South Africans
Thank you, Mr Maimane. This is so sad for Miss Adetshina. She's a victim, really, when one considers all factors. Blessings to her in her journey forward.
You could have written this in any other language but chose FACTS
She's not innocent
Nonsense. The real victims are the south africans who's identities were stolen
You are drunk
She is a victim of her mother's crime not a victim of a South African system.
This guy is the most sensible, most representable and wise in politics. He speaks fair and professional. What a representative he could be for our country. But we rather choose lies and ones that only say what they know we want to hear and never give us what we need.
Which guy?
No chance. He is lucky to be an MP and by look of things it is going to get worse
@@menzimngadi6793 why so do you say.
@@thobekiledlamini Bosa leader My money.
@@jacaoc345 The electorate has rejected him
The SA corrupt government should be blamed & held accountable for all this mess
She must go to Nigeria and ask ikwes to join miss ikhwe competition
To all who say South Africa we are xenophobic yes we are as long as Nigerians are in this country xenophobic will never end
Just don't kill us, apart from the killing you got nothing that we envy, just leave your life and set boundaries, we will respect that. Don't kill us as before
@@Ammarbel91 That is it
Musu, i used to resoect you but please please please South Africa MUST be for South Africans.If Chidimas Mum has committed fraud, she will have to suffer the consequences.Stop stop and please stop.Let me remind you Numbers 14.18 (NIV),,,,"The Lord punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generatiin"
Hayi suka thula wena uthetha nje kuba uva kuthethwa akusekho yakho thula.
they also earning social grants please check with sassa
Haybo Musi Maymane you also call us Xenophobic you are disappointing😢,what about the victim who his identity was stolen I'm glad I didn't vote for you
A wise man spoke here. Thank you
That reason only 3 people vote for him not smart 🧠
The innocent child and her mother are still suffering because of this evil chidima. Let them get arrested immediately before they disappear 🚮
The evil chidinma you called it ? Chidinma knows nothing what you're accusing her about. In my Igbo culture and aswell as in a civilized world
a child doesn't inherit his /her parents sin.
You evil yourself Chidima was young
Why you calling her evil, you don’t have children.karma
I actually believe the South African citizen was bribed to stand in place of the mother. I have heard rumors from people I know of some people doing this to secure citizenship for their children in the future. I heard some saying she has a South African stepmother. That could be the person involved.
Without an insider , that fraud wouldn't have been possible . There was a collaboration in the art. Chidinma, mother might've paid a huge sum of money to got access to the document
Instead of feeling sorry for the lady who’ s I’d was stole . Who rightfully South African , they feel sorry for Chatinma, very strage
Well spoken Mr Maimane
He is irrelevant
Yes, he is very wise and intelligent. Not like the bunch of idiots who are short sighted and self destructive without knowing it. They think rejecting other black people is going to help them in the long run.
We cant build any thing by corruption, but by hard working and being patriotic.
What about the person who's ID document stolen no one is saying anything about it. The poor person suffered a great deal for a period of time meaning 20+- without an ID. This Chidindindin benefited through NSFSAS studying and enjoying all the benefits that goes with it and we're expected to keep mum. Most probably her mother is still receiving social grant as we speak. What if the owner of the ID was killed or still struggling to obtain the ID because of the incompetent home affairs?
SA is quick to issue IDs mxm😢 we don't get be issued IDs anywhere thina
you spoke it like a leader Mmusi...logic my leader 🇧🇼 ❤
SHE KNEW ALL ALONG...THIS WAS A CRY FOR HELP FROM THIS URNG LADY.SHE WAS TIRED OF THE GUÌLT.....UNEMBEZA DESTROYED HER
Yazini this story is so strange. It reminds me of those stories where siblings start dating each other only to find out they are related. Inobu “dlozi lami” phakathi lento.
Well these MP will not get my vote…. The Musies..the Malema … where is you Patriasm
Nonsense, Chidima is not a victim
👍👍👍👍
I agree she isn’t but attacking for something her mother did is pointless. And I have no sympathy for her cause I’m sure as she grew up she must have figured it out, we should focus on getting justice for the person who’s identity was stolen
Well spoken sir ❤❤
Maimane speaks like a leader, not those ones that grandstand and hoodwink our people with theatrics. When a society is angry, a leader must calm the situation not fuel the fire.
Great Leaders speak the truth.Mmusi 🙏🏽
even if it’s against majority views
she born here in Soweto
She doesn’t know nigeria
where she has to go?let’s be fair!
Definitely not in Soweto
Kanti didn’t you see her celebrating with her Nigerian family…she can definitely go to her father’s home.
Please go and investigate before you talk nonsense
You're a Leader Mr Maimane!
Am happy to hear pure sanity from you Sir!
I applaud ❤
I'd like to know which tribe of South Africa does she represent
She must pack and leave take a long her fraudulent mother MAKAHAMBE NJE QHA TRIBE OR NONE.
does this apply only to SAn blacks
He's so stale in his way of thinking. She is innocent,we get it, but there is also another victim out there whose identity was stolen. Who knows what opportunities were missed by this South African, who will never get a re-do of her life.
Taking foreign money from foreign donors makes politicians the biggest fools around. You'll even say the sky is green on a sunny day whilst we all know its blue 😂😂😅
They don't care about are pains and the victims of IDs the problem is borders and Home Affairs
U are the man. Ur are 💯 right ✅️
Yes, our system is NOT strong enough and yes it must be fixed but it doesn't justify BREAKING THE LAW. In other countries when you break the law you face the Music or deported, they should too.
No one is asking where she was born, making a case about the cub by persecuting the lioness
What if Mozambique and Nigeria says no citizenship, Where will she go?
Boycott this Miss SA competition, and the law should take its course on this matter
South Africa is a country not a continent.
Then you're saying we mustn't have international relations?
Y'all don't know what you're talking about.
@@givenmabussi what I mean is South Africa is a country with it's own cultures and policies that govern it's own Country. We cannot have a miss Nigerian as miss South Africa in South Africa.
I feel sorry for the mother whose identity was stolen what is happening to her children are they registered in South Africa 🇿🇦 or they don't have birth certificates like most people who losed their edentity to fraudsters? I also feel sorry for this lady if she didn't know this? But my question is if the father says they arrived in South Africa in 2010 she knows something about this thing: she was 10yrs in 2010 and you usually understand things when you're 10years😢
She will be awarded SA citizenship , she n her family will still have access to Sa n she will continue modeling there n even internationally
Maimane is not realistic and tone death, this guy must just quit politics, clearly its not his strong point
Who is xenophobic Ntate Maimane? O utlwile mang
Waphapha Maimane ka groff face🚮
@@mokone4758Neh rest Brother, rest we need not insult one another.
@@RB4286 Bro South African politicians ba kwatisa maan
Please don't waste your reasoning on maimane or malema, they are morons.
@@mokone4758 Play ball bro
Mmusi is out of topic he still wants to blame south african for seeing something
Wrong in there country talking english doent mean you talking sense
Musi go to sleep my brother you talking nonsense, what about the victim because Chidima is not
AS A BLACK AMERICAN I AGREE WITH MIMUSI. HE IS A COMPASSIONATE LEADER AND A REAL HUMAN WITH EMPATHY. HE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE REST OF AFRICA FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS AND THE BLACK STRUGGLE FOR LIBERATION. TO WATCH THIS LEVEL OF HATRED FROM BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS TOWARDS OTHER AFRICANS IS SAD TO WATCH.
Please show us receipts,I know SADAC region were holding our exiled then ANC leadership, we paid our debt...our people were kept in camps and all people come to South Africa without the rules they set to our leaders. Mr.American we know.alot more.about our journey to freedom than you think,we grew up here during riots,teargas fights,curfews etc.Don't speak of what you didn't experience.Everyone wants tell us how to behave...go and speak up and talk nonsense in America about your own drug ridden and homeless population Mumu xem.😂😂❤🇿🇦❤️🇿🇦❤️
Alleged. So not definite. Poor girl. She was a baby and had no say in her parents decision. 😢
There is no poor girl here her are crooks period and trying to take advantage of other people often results in disgrace.