Excellent video. Its nice to see content from a "normal" worship team and leader. You face the same challenges shared with most volunteer-based worship teams and you meet them with innovative ideas. Inspiring 👍
I was a worship leader in college. Stopped going to church and doing that for a bunch of reasons, but found my way as a professional musician elsewhere. I do miss parts of it. There's something really nice about hearing about your process, seeing what your life is like. Thank you for sharing and for pouring in to all those musicians and your community! That right there is good work!
I love this video and it helped me!!! the one thing I would say is don't be afraid to talk about God directly and mention that He was doing something in the audience
Congregation, not audience. If it’s for worship and a gathering of people in regards to worship, it’s a congregation. An audience doesn’t necessarily take part in worship.
i love the Quarterly concept of fine tuning the teams separate Gifts and Talents, also helping everyone to feel appreciated as you grow together as a Unit ! One thing I've learned thru the years in Music Ministry you never get to old to learn...no such thing. Travis, love the video bro!
I was Joseph at one church and it took me a while to realize that I was less "poured" into and more taken advantage of. I could hold my own well on keys, guitar, production as well as my main drums. It was a learning experience. True serving means you're not manipulated and taken for a ride. For me, next time you see Joe, tell em you appreciate him, it does assistant guys like us a lot of good. In general, there is no extra grace for the responsibilities put on us by directors.
You don't even know how much the various aspects of leading a worship team COMPLETELY resonated with me. Especially the first 4-5 minutes. And I'm not a worship leader (bassist/guitarist). I just would've liked to hear a few more of your chops (especially any slapping and popping [I'll admit it, I'm a white guy who LOVES to slap and pop). I'm going to share this with my worship leader, solely because I know he'll die laughing at how much he agrees with you! Blessings brother.
I love seeing how much the team has grown! Excellent points Travis and thankful for your contribution to the church that made me who I am. God bless brother.
People really don’t know how much work it’s takes to be on a worship team that actually strives for excellence every Sunday. God using the practice and preparation to usher in the spirit of God. Not by us, but through us. I can’t wait to get up at 6am every morning to sing and play for the Lord every Sunday. God bless you brutha! Everything you said was God sent and without a spirit of pride! Keep it up!
I left a church with a work pace like yours as a musician after 7 or 8;yrs. Best decision I ever made honestly. Sunday was a FULL day that I never saw my family and it wore me out
I can see this job can be a tremendous amount of responsibility. I grew up in Church and the worship team was always top notch musicians. No drum cage, no click tracks, no loop station. No fancy stage lights…Just pure raw worship. It was incredible.
@@randolphshield6560wow it’s true god does has favorites , because he has never tested you with incompetent, ignorant, egotistical people in the alter. That’s just their character. When it comes to music it’s even worst.
Great Video. During the years that I served as the music director, we did (or tried hard) to do much of this. Prepping for my musicians, gradual training, number system, workshops, etc. All while maintaining a high demand, full time management position in the tech sector. Gruelling at times, but personally rewarding. Where I am now, I try now to be the most supportive and responsive team member, knowing what challenges the Worship Leader has. Again, great video.
Can you give a tutorial on how you set up your tracks on Ableton before service, share why you make certain choices while creating the track, and then show why/how those choices are effective in a live setting? I’m hearing Ableton is great for live church gigs. Right now I’m using garage band and have gotten along well using loops but it’s not the easiest when we are transitioning from song to song. By the way… GREAT VIDEO! So informative, great content, and also very inspiring.
Thanks so much Travis, I've recently joined my churches student leadership which teaches the youth at my church how to be leaders in the church. This videos helps a lot with leadership in the worship scene.
I really appreciate the precision and kindness you brought to this video. This is a video I can recommend to those musicians who are secularists (or members of denominations that don’t have a prosylitizing mandate). Thank you!
This was great, but always remember the real reason why we worship, it's so easy to get caught up in musical excellency. One of the worst things you could do is play a perfect set and not actually worship the only Lord, Jesus, who died and rose again and is coming back soon.
Excellent Information. I play drums and our Church we rehearse on a Thursday Night for 3-4 hours where we have prayer service before Morning Worship. I love the fact the band rehearse 1 1/2 hour before the singers come in.
Travis, thank you so much for your service to the Body of Christ. This video was awesome! All of your videos are so meaningful and full of purpose and not to mention knowledge. You don't have to share the way you do, but it is greatly appreciated. May God bless you and your ministry.
Thank you for this video man, I have been appointed as the band / worship leader and I also play the bass guitar. I appreciate the time you took Maki g this video, it has helped me so much. I'm from Cape Town South Africa
Wow bro this video has been released in the craziest timing, just as im stepping in to leading youth worship and eventually stepping into leading church worship. Love all of the tips you have in here bro
Awesome dude! I'm not a follower of religion, but I am a musician and I appreciate any musician who has both your skill and passion. I'm from Australia so I'm probably not going to be at the service, however, I'd attend every Sunday to hear you perform if I lived a little closer. Well done. PS. When I was young I'd go to a church band practice on a Saturday, I'd take my amp and guitar and they'd give me a stand and sheet music to follow along. Best practice I ever had, It forced me to improve better than any lessons I might have paid for. I just heard them one day and wondered in, very nice people, very welcoming.
Great video! As a recently-named MD, especially through the transition of getting a new Lead Pastor and, much more recently, a new Worship/Creative Arts Pastor, all of this information is so valuable. Blessings!
This is good info. I have been playing for 40 years and toured and MD and click tracks. It's nice when someone explains this info to a lot of folks who don't have that experience. What I find truly wild is having a drummer who can't play to a click. Those are the guys, that you need to tell them go home and practice and come back, but finding someone who knows how too. Find the players with the basic skills. Just saying.
Great video! My first thought was, "how can you make sure your still worshiping in and moving The Spirit while playing with a loop or track" but it sounds like you guys still do that very well and leave room for spontaneous worship! Love your content - God Bless!
I’m a pastor. Also a seasoned musician. I have my church band doing the number system as well. They thought I was crazy at first. But now it helps so much. None of the had ever done any studio session work or anything so never had been exposed to it.
Very good insight into being a worship leader. Our worship leader for the past 6 years just stepped down so we are on the hunt for a new one. But these are some great things to look for or ask about in the interview process.
Thank you for sharing broth. The Key to everything you have implemented is Humility and Discipline from the Other Members. Being a Follower is not being 2nd or 3rd in the queue. It is a True Hearts that wants the Progress of the Church. To be Honest I had my bad experience with my own team and i've been misunderstood trying to bring some '' structure'' in the music. Have you been also through that sort of challenge ? if yes please share to encourage broth. The Lord God bless you for all your Videos.
Excellent sharing of your knowledge sir. Thank you. Our church is currently searching for a new worship director and I plan to share this video with the search team. God bless 🙌.
I play saxophone at my church and we do not use number system. Would like to learn more about that. If you could suggest a video to start that would be great. This video was very good. Keep up the hard work. God Bless.
Very good video! Thanks for the look into the inner workings of your team! I've been on several teams in the last 20 years! Each with their own quirks and dysfunctions! Right now, we're in a pretty good place where I'm serving. Our problem seems to center around a stable drummer! We have weekly rehearsals, and that's never been an issue. However, new leadership is much more forgiving about rehearsals being missed, whereas last leadership focused on the members being there and plugged in or not being able to play that week. One style, too strict, one style too loose! Always a balancing act! The idea of a monthly clinic is very attractive, though! Musicians sitting around and picking each others brains just seems like a very productive session! Thanks again for this video!
I think this was a great video about the things around being an MD that most people wouldn't get or see. A lot of helpful tips and advice. I would love it if you broke down some steps of how you started from the just a loop and now have the in ears and talk back. Im sure others have made videos like it but I really appreciate your style of presentation.
Also if you can give an education tutorial on learning how to give singers their parts. I’ve always been a band director and now I am a MD, but haven’t received any training regarding give specific notes to specifics vocal groups. I can often hear parts but don’t know who the part goes to and why it goes to that group and not another group. (For example why the tenors get a certain part and not the altos).
I’m really interested in how you break out your trainings. Who leads what, what does it look like. What might be like an itinerary for a normal quarterly training?
Really love this video. Real plain and simple. Quick question, would it be possible to get tutorial videos of your bass cam angle from your Sunday services?
Hey Travis ! Thank you so much for this video and sharing your experience as a worship leader. Very insightful. Do you find that with all of the business end going on around you and all that you have to focus on with regards to the music you are detached and separated from connecting with the Lord?
practice and prep are fine ..... commitment to excellence ...... but without the anointing (God moving) it's all just noise. Bless you, I'm sure you know that. It's gotta be spirit to spirit for eternal work to be done. Y'all know this right; God anoints what He is doing, not what we plan. Come the meeting/service, Holy Spirit may wreck the plan cos He has a better one! He might say - no instruments today ......be still ........or play that song again and again ......or play a new song and drop the song list. God take our space to do what You want to do. Cos the anointing is supremely efficient! Bless you guys.
Travis, thank you! This was extremely helpful and inspiring, because of this video there are many ideas going through my head. Not sure why anyone would criticize your video. Guess they hate that you worship an AMAZING God! 😂
We want to give God our best. If it means perfecting what we do in our music ministry. We serve a perfect God. King David was a skillful musician. Peace!
I was the music director for years. Until it was time to turn it over the new generation. Played the organ all those years. I believe 20-25 years. Did all the services we had for a week plus revival weeks. We never got paid . It was a gift you gave back to god. I’m old school.
Hey Travis, thanks for this video, so helpful bro!! Question for you: how do you organize your quarterly clinics? Do you personally go over each section individually (bass, drums, vocals, etc.) or are they led by other leaders at the same time? Would love to see a video about the clinics!
Hi! Your videos helps a lot! Thank you for the efforts that you're making 😊 I have a question though regarding the giving of the song line up..is it good to give the songs 4/5 days before the serviceand expecting the musicians to master it considering that they also have work on weekdays?
Hey Travis, love your content. What are your thoughts about playing a song exactly how it's recorded, compared to leaving a little bit of freedom for creativity? E.g. Playing bass - playing a Dmin (II) relative minor when the team play an F(IV) even if it's subtle like a passing note, but still sound dominantly different.
Thanks so much for the video, definitely helped me and gave me ideas on how to improve. One question, I noticed your Sunday schedule has a Pre Service Meeting at 9:30am. What's that meeting about? is it like a devotional time or is it to iron out the plan for that Sunday service? Thanks again
Excellent video. Its nice to see content from a "normal" worship team and leader. You face the same challenges shared with most volunteer-based worship teams and you meet them with innovative ideas. Inspiring 👍
I was a worship leader in college. Stopped going to church and doing that for a bunch of reasons, but found my way as a professional musician elsewhere. I do miss parts of it. There's something really nice about hearing about your process, seeing what your life is like. Thank you for sharing and for pouring in to all those musicians and your community! That right there is good work!
Can you share your experiences please?
I love this video and it helped me!!! the one thing I would say is don't be afraid to talk about God directly and mention that He was doing something in the audience
Yes, don't be shy about our God 🙌🏿
Congregation, not audience. If it’s for worship and a gathering of people in regards to worship, it’s a congregation. An audience doesn’t necessarily take part in worship.
@@GauravNicholasMisraNickKwan agree with you, but I think we got the point thank you.
Excellent display of what is involved. Just wish you had shown the vocalist section and given us glimpse of video set-up.
@GauravNicholasMisraNickKwan good catch.
i love the Quarterly concept of fine tuning the teams separate Gifts and Talents, also helping everyone to feel appreciated as you grow together as a Unit ! One thing I've learned thru the years in Music Ministry you never get to old to learn...no such thing. Travis, love the video bro!
I was Joseph at one church and it took me a while to realize that I was less "poured" into and more taken advantage of. I could hold my own well on keys, guitar, production as well as my main drums. It was a learning experience. True serving means you're not manipulated and taken for a ride. For me, next time you see Joe, tell em you appreciate him, it does assistant guys like us a lot of good. In general, there is no extra grace for the responsibilities put on us by directors.
I really needed this cause I became MD for the first time and it can be difficult. Thank you so much man 🙏🏾
You don't even know how much the various aspects of leading a worship team COMPLETELY resonated with me. Especially the first 4-5 minutes. And I'm not a worship leader (bassist/guitarist). I just would've liked to hear a few more of your chops (especially any slapping and popping [I'll admit it, I'm a white guy who LOVES to slap and pop). I'm going to share this with my worship leader, solely because I know he'll die laughing at how much he agrees with you! Blessings brother.
I love seeing how much the team has grown! Excellent points Travis and thankful for your contribution to the church that made me who I am. God bless brother.
People really don’t know how much work it’s takes to be on a worship team that actually strives for excellence every Sunday. God using the practice and preparation to usher in the spirit of God. Not by us, but through us. I can’t wait to get up at 6am every morning to sing and play for the Lord every Sunday. God bless you brutha! Everything you said was God sent and without a spirit of pride! Keep it up!
I left a church with a work pace like yours as a musician after 7 or 8;yrs. Best decision I ever made honestly. Sunday was a FULL day that I never saw my family and it wore me out
I can see this job can be a tremendous amount of responsibility. I grew up in Church and the worship team was always top notch musicians. No drum cage, no click tracks, no loop station. No fancy stage lights…Just pure raw worship. It was incredible.
@@randolphshield6560wow it’s true god does has favorites , because he has never tested you with incompetent, ignorant, egotistical people in the alter. That’s just their character. When it comes to music it’s even worst.
Great Video. During the years that I served as the music director, we did (or tried hard) to do much of this. Prepping for my musicians, gradual training, number system, workshops, etc. All while maintaining a high demand, full time management position in the tech sector. Gruelling at times, but personally rewarding. Where I am now, I try now to be the most supportive and responsive team member, knowing what challenges the Worship Leader has.
Again, great video.
Can you give a tutorial on how you set up your tracks on Ableton before service, share why you make certain choices while creating the track, and then show why/how those choices are effective in a live setting?
I’m hearing Ableton is great for live church gigs. Right now I’m using garage band and have gotten along well using loops but it’s not the easiest when we are transitioning from song to song.
By the way… GREAT VIDEO! So informative, great content, and also very inspiring.
Thanks so much Travis, I've recently joined my churches student leadership which teaches the youth at my church how to be leaders in the church. This videos helps a lot with leadership in the worship scene.
I really appreciate the precision and kindness you brought to this video. This is a video I can recommend to those musicians who are secularists (or members of denominations that don’t have a prosylitizing mandate).
Thank you!
This was great, but always remember the real reason why we worship, it's so easy to get caught up in musical excellency. One of the worst things you could do is play a perfect set and not actually worship the only Lord, Jesus, who died and rose again and is coming back soon.
Excellent Information. I play drums and our Church we rehearse on a Thursday Night for 3-4 hours where we have prayer service before Morning Worship. I love the fact the band rehearse 1 1/2 hour before the singers come in.
Travis, thank you so much for your service to the Body of Christ. This video was awesome! All of your videos are so meaningful and full of purpose and not to mention knowledge. You don't have to share the way you do, but it is greatly appreciated. May God bless you and your ministry.
Thank you for this video man, I have been appointed as the band / worship leader and I also play the bass guitar. I appreciate the time you took Maki g this video, it has helped me so much. I'm from Cape Town South Africa
Wow bro this video has been released in the craziest timing, just as im stepping in to leading youth worship and eventually stepping into leading church worship. Love all of the tips you have in here bro
This is great! Thanks for sharing! Good practical points that can be used and adapted in my local setting. 👍🏾
Awesome dude! I'm not a follower of religion, but I am a musician and I appreciate any musician who has both your skill and passion. I'm from Australia so I'm probably not going to be at the service, however, I'd attend every Sunday to hear you perform if I lived a little closer. Well done.
PS. When I was young I'd go to a church band practice on a Saturday, I'd take my amp and guitar and they'd give me a stand and sheet music to follow along. Best practice I ever had, It forced me to improve better than any lessons I might have paid for. I just heard them one day and wondered in, very nice people, very welcoming.
I enjoyed the video. Good stuff....... the kingdom really needs this across the board.
Love this video bro!!! The importance of pouring into someone was probably my favorite part!!
Awesome vid. Thank you for the sneek peek into your Sunday work ethic. You are doing this the right way. Giving God the best.
Thanks for your sharing and service, I'd love to know more about Church Music Director to serve in my local church. God Bless You!
This video inspired me. Thank you Travis. I already shared it with my Musical director. Thank you fir these hidden gems 💎
Great video! As a recently-named MD, especially through the transition of getting a new Lead Pastor and, much more recently, a new Worship/Creative Arts Pastor, all of this information is so valuable. Blessings!
This is good info. I have been playing for 40 years and toured and MD and click tracks. It's nice when someone explains this info to a lot of folks who don't have that experience. What I find truly wild is having a drummer who can't play to a click. Those are the guys, that you need to tell them go home and practice and come back, but finding someone who knows how too. Find the players with the basic skills. Just saying.
I love this video and I could feel the present of God while listening to it. God continue to bless and keep you brother
true
Great video! My first thought was, "how can you make sure your still worshiping in and moving The Spirit while playing with a loop or track" but it sounds like you guys still do that very well and leave room for spontaneous worship! Love your content - God Bless!
I’m a pastor. Also a seasoned musician. I have my church band doing the number system as well. They thought I was crazy at first. But now it helps so much. None of the had ever done any studio session work or anything so never had been exposed to it.
Great insight and a different perspective on directing. Thank you for sharing your ministry. GBU
Wow! I really love the video and have learnt so much from it. Thanks so much bro. God bless you
- Josiah from Nigeria.
Very good insight into being a worship leader.
Our worship leader for the past 6 years just stepped down so we are on the hunt for a new one. But these are some great things to look for or ask about in the interview process.
Wonderful insights!
Thanks for sharing bro!
Keep up the good work for the Lord's Kingdom!
The Lord will re-pay your faithfulness!!
Blessings!
Thank you for sharing broth. The Key to everything you have implemented is Humility and Discipline from the Other Members. Being a Follower is not being 2nd or 3rd in the queue. It is a True Hearts that wants the Progress of the Church. To be Honest I had my bad experience with my own team and i've been misunderstood trying to bring some '' structure'' in the music. Have you been also through that sort of challenge ? if yes please share to encourage broth. The Lord God bless you for all your Videos.
Thank you sir travis❤❤ your videos help me to improve not only in bass but also as a musician thank you for your advices more videos to come❤❤❤❤
Thanks so much Travis, From Brazil
Bruh.
You seem like a great leader and musician. Good luck in your musical pursuits!🇨🇦
Thanks so much for this video. I play guitar at my church and was asked to serve as the MD. I have a lot to learn and this was very helpful.
What a great look at all the work you all put in. Thank you for the insight. What church is this? I went to Belmont. Have a blessed day!
such a blessing. I've longed to be a part of something like this. bless you.
My bro.Travis is a great musician! Been following him for a bit😎
Excellent sharing of your knowledge sir. Thank you. Our church is currently searching for a new worship director and I plan to share this video with the search team. God bless 🙌.
I play saxophone at my church and we do not use number system. Would like to learn more about that. If you could suggest a video to start that would be great. This video was very good. Keep up the hard work. God Bless.
A great expose and on-point advice! Learning the number system is CRUCIAL!!! It should be all about worshiping not performing.
This is very informative video. Your doing very good travis🙏 thank you brother
Thank you Travis. God bless you.
WE NEED THIS BROTHER KEEP IT COMING GBU
Great video!
Great insight for those of us in praise and worship teams!
Great info about quarterly clinics!
Whoa, bro. Almost didn't recognize you after the weight loss. Great thing! God bless.
Thank you!! This was soo amazing, I was actually seeking to how better my team and this helps a lot!!! :)
Thanks. God bless you and your ministry. Praise God from who all blessings flow!
Very good video! Thanks for the look into the inner workings of your team! I've been on several teams in the last 20 years! Each with their own quirks and dysfunctions! Right now, we're in a pretty good place where I'm serving. Our problem seems to center around a stable drummer! We have weekly rehearsals, and that's never been an issue. However, new leadership is much more forgiving about rehearsals being missed, whereas last leadership focused on the members being there and plugged in or not being able to play that week. One style, too strict, one style too loose! Always a balancing act! The idea of a monthly clinic is very attractive, though! Musicians sitting around and picking each others brains just seems like a very productive session! Thanks again for this video!
I think this was a great video about the things around being an MD that most people wouldn't get or see. A lot of helpful tips and advice. I would love it if you broke down some steps of how you started from the just a loop and now have the in ears and talk back. Im sure others have made videos like it but I really appreciate your style of presentation.
Thank you so much! This was enlightening and encouraging!
This was great! Thank you for sharing, we definitely appreciated your perspective!
You're a beast 🔥🙌🏾😂
Travis, this side of things was awesome to see.
Also if you can give an education tutorial on learning how to give singers their parts. I’ve always been a band director and now I am a MD, but haven’t received any training regarding give specific notes to specifics vocal groups.
I can often hear parts but don’t know who the part goes to and why it goes to that group and not another group. (For example why the tenors get a certain part and not the altos).
I’m really interested in how you break out your trainings. Who leads what, what does it look like. What might be like an itinerary for a normal quarterly training?
Thank you for the tips and insight. God bless you
LOVE YOUR WORK BRO SOUTH AFRICAN FAN & FELLOW MUSICIAN
It was a pleasure watching and a blessing to all
Really love this video. Real plain and simple. Quick question, would it be possible to get tutorial videos of your bass cam angle from your Sunday services?
Thank you Travis!
Amazing, loved hearing this.
Hey Travis ! Thank you so much for this video and sharing your experience as a worship leader. Very insightful. Do you find that with all of the business end going on around you and all that you have to focus on with regards to the music you are detached and separated from connecting with the Lord?
practice and prep are fine ..... commitment to excellence ...... but without the anointing (God moving) it's all just noise. Bless you, I'm sure you know that. It's gotta be spirit to spirit for eternal work to be done. Y'all know this right; God anoints what He is doing, not what we plan. Come the meeting/service, Holy Spirit may wreck the plan cos He has a better one! He might say - no instruments today ......be still ........or play that song again and again ......or play a new song and drop the song list. God take our space to do what You want to do. Cos the anointing is supremely efficient! Bless you guys.
Travis, thank you! This was extremely helpful and inspiring, because of this video there are many ideas going through my head. Not sure why anyone would criticize your video. Guess they hate that you worship an AMAZING God! 😂
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Great way to workout the Band👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Great Video!!!
Very educational towards worship ministry and what it is all about
We want to give God our best. If it means perfecting what we do in our music ministry. We serve a perfect God. King David was a skillful musician. Peace!
I was the music director for years. Until it was time to turn it over the new generation. Played the organ all those years. I believe 20-25 years. Did all the services we had for a week plus revival weeks. We never got paid . It was a gift you gave back to god. I’m old school.
Hey Travis, thanks for this video, so helpful bro!! Question for you: how do you organize your quarterly clinics?
Do you personally go over each section individually (bass, drums, vocals, etc.) or are they led by other leaders at the same time? Would love to see a video about the clinics!
Great material your passion shines through.
This thumbnail is hilarious, as a music director i have made this face many times 😂
This video earned you a subscriber...great job buddy very helpful and practical
a good vid about the inner workings of a modern worship team...
Great topic, well spoken I agree with everything in this video.
0:55 you said doodoo (everyone like this comment)
😂
A little late but dude I love your playing and you’re a huge inspiration to me and my playing on my worship team
Md Travis goes crazy 🔥🔥🔥
Excellent Travis!!
Thank you Travis. This video was very helpful and inspiring
travis is a beast! 🫡🫡
i like the pinky for the 6 lol! I always use my index finger pointing down at the ground. Kinda implies minor by being upside down.
Much love to you Trav...great work!!!
Good work. The video was a pretty good idea.
Hi! Your videos helps a lot! Thank you for the efforts that you're making 😊
I have a question though regarding the giving of the song line up..is it good to give the songs 4/5 days before the serviceand expecting the musicians to master it considering that they also have work on weekdays?
Hey Travis, love your content. What are your thoughts about playing a song exactly how it's recorded, compared to leaving a little bit of freedom for creativity?
E.g. Playing bass - playing a Dmin (II) relative minor when the team play an F(IV) even if it's subtle like a passing note, but still sound dominantly different.
Great info and perspective!
Great video man! love the content.
Keep up the great work brother.
-*Good stuff Travis , "We do "most " of this :-) . Thanks man !
Thanks for sharing your wisdom.😊
Very insightful, thank you!
6:19 - Sounds like “You make me brave”. The tone and four notes match the intro.
Hey Travis. Good work
bro, your amazing.
Great Instruction!
Thanks so much for the video, definitely helped me and gave me ideas on how to improve. One question, I noticed your Sunday schedule has a Pre Service Meeting at 9:30am. What's that meeting about? is it like a devotional time or is it to iron out the plan for that Sunday service? Thanks again