update: zero misses. good shit for sticking up for what you believe in and being REAL about it instead of putting a mask on like some other creators do
I don't think Blizz will ever budge on this issue anyway, but I do appreciate that there's at least a few voices in the OW community who'll stand up for us console players. Sam's ability to say all of this with his VOD still on his channel of him attempting to play controller with no aa and giving up is comedy gold, especially when he acknowledges the video and says "that doesn't have anything to do with it". Sam's either a top tier toll or his years of playing OW has finally truly drained him of his sanity lol.
Banger video. One of the biggest indicators imo, is ximming. If aim assist was truly as strong as he claims, you wouldn’t see so many xim MNK players in high ranks
Pure, I said this exact same thing to someone in his comment section on his response video, and I got the stupid response "That's not even an argument, that doesn't mean anything".
@@Awoken- yes, so not everyone would suddenly get a higher rating, that's not how it works... when everyone gets better, no one (relatively speaking) gets better - and the ranking system works relatively...
If it does anything artificially to help your aim, it is an aimbot. He litterally went over different types of hacks, but you think Aimbot is just snap instant kill. There are soft aimbots out there too.
Me personally, I am a pc player that came from console. Aim assist in overwatch is basically nothing, so I don't really see why samito has a problem with it and blizzard should really just allow it so people can play with their friends. That being said I do agree with samito on the part where he said aim assist is mild aimbot, but only for games such as warzone and apex cuz that shit is broken over there.
if its basically nothing, then whats the problem if its off? Thats the point, its NOT nothing... which is why you're upset its not there. It's like strapping an electric motor to a mountain bike that you want to enter into the tour de france. It's not the right bike for the job and no you dont get an electric motor to help you when its too difficult.
@@theonlygus First off Tour De France uses road bikes not mountain bikes. Second off the bikes they use are custom designed for the rider to maximise their potential. Think of aim assist as a specific frame size for the rider so they aren’t forced to use the same bike frame designed for a mouse user. That way it removes the any awkwardness from the Equipment and makes it more fair overall. Also aim assist is designed to deal with a thing called Deadzones within a controller. Without specific software it’s difficult to know your own controllers deadzones. Therefore places controller players at a disadvantage in a way and that wouldn’t be fair either now would it?
I swear all PC elitists are NPCs. They just say the same thing about aim assist. Challenge a PC elitist to not bring up another game and watch their veins pop.
Controller is unplayable in PC lobbies and I can't play with my console friends because they don't have a chance without aim assist. I would love to see Samito go a full month only using a controller in PC lobbies, Thank you for this video because aim assist definitely needs to be enabled so we can play with our buds and have a good time.
I'm so glad at least SOMEONE is mentioning this A ton of my friends I've been looking forward to playing ow2 with are on pc and honestly because of the lack of aim assist it just makes playing with them miserable for me because I'm basically ruining our teams chances of winning all because "aim assist is op" Guess everyone who thinks that forgot the basic fact that the reason aim assist even exists to begin with is because aiming on a controller is dreadful
these people act as if we want aim assist in literally every mode, even if it's in comp. we legit just want it in quick play, and not comp solely because we realize there has to be a major balance diff between comp and casual. not only that, but we also wanna keep that aim assist while playing with our PC buddies in.. who woulda guessed it? *quick play.* i'm not even a hardcore controller geek who can't play without aim assist, and i realize this. to quote you from the last video: "it's quick play, who cares?"
After having 1000+ hours in OverWatch l'll say this with confidence the aim assist is not that good, the only thing it does is slows down your sensitivity when your Crosshair is near your opponent tracking your opponent is your own still alone.
Right. Compared to fortnite on expo and apex its really not that good. But with it activated i have almost the same aim as if im on pc. Pc players still have 400+ fps, a large desk, a whole arm to aim, fov sliders but still whine about how broken aimassist is. Fun fakt most of them never tried to play on a controller..they still miss every bullet with godly aim assist 🤣
Same. I only have smoothing and a bit of slow down so I don’t over-aim at farther distances, but the normal aim assist is basically turned off for me. Sometimes those settings still mess me up if someone goes infront of the person that I’m trying to shoot at when scoped in as Widow or Ashe, but overall they help me acquire targets and shoot a few milliseconds sooner, which can really be the difference.
'give both players, on both teams, equal tools to win and those who expresses more skill, should go on to win the game', 'mouse and keyboard is better at skill expression' 💀 - Samito's (aka Man child) thought of what fair play is.
@That Guy i think you mean 'misinterpereted' instead of misrepresent since that word dont mean damn shit in your sentence. literally trying to have an argument throwing immature insults at me that i've seen come from a 10 year old. and I DID quote him dipshit. maybe take a look at the video YOURSELF and come back since i dont think you have heard the dumb shit samito has been saying, contradicting himself every second. so its not me thats making samito seem like hes contradicting himself, its himself thats doing it to himself. i cant take you seriously. good job representing the pc players. good job.
I had the most insane encounter with an entitled mnk warrior in the comments section of that Samito video. They told me I was trying to “force the entire PC Overwatch community to bow down to your demands” all because I said it forces me into the PC pool when I play with my little brother because he has a PC and I don’t 😭
I been playing with aim-assist off on console pools just to practice when I get in pc pools & I been absolutely miserable. I play support mostly Lucio & Zenyatta, with the meta that's going on it feels really annoying to try to learn in a environment that works against you. So far my practice has been really poor & I even went to research if I could actually improve without AA but I couldn't find much so I'm kind of stuck on what to do. Also I appreciate you defending console folks & standing up to elitist mindsets ❤
Hi I know it's been almost 1 year, but could you tell me what settings do you use? I have been trying to use 0 aim assist and it's really fricking hard to hit, is ether too fast or too slow, I been playing alot of Mcree and Hanzo, yesterday got 10 loses in a row. Appreciate tips too!
And I have been thinking if I should put the aim assist stuff on 50 or just max, I really want to get better without it, but is just impossible and just makes me trow my games by ALOT. Playing OW on console is extremely hard without it.
As a console player, this just checks every box for me. PC players are able to better control their aim because it’s more precise whereas console players CAN get really good aim, but it takes way longer because stick sensitivity is never going to be as good as mouse sensitivity (by that I mean the ability to be as accurate with where you want to place your shots). Console players only have a slight movement advantage imo cuz sticks offer more direction control than the keyboard, but in terms of aiming and getting kills, PC mops the floor with console
What sparked this topic up again? I noticed a few videos popping up today. PC players got all their tools including extra settings, hardware, key binds, and general set up that can give them a huge advantage. Why is AA in QP so concerning when these guys only play ranked anyway? It really just makes the ability to crossplay with PC players pointless.
I agree that console and PC pools should be separate but Blizzard needs to give console players the ability to plug in our mouse and keyboard and play in PC pools without it being a massive buggy mess.
Tell me how do i play with mouse and keyboard on a freakin couch? Not every consolero sitting on an gaming chair / pc desk. Just activate aa and we're all good
I played one game vs cpu on a jank laptop that turned into a slideshow when more than 2 ults were used at once. Even then, it felt better aiming with a $10 Walmart mouse than a controller, because it’s easier. Sami to doesn’t know what he’s talking about, especially when console players don’t wanna be limited to Rein, Mercy, Moira, Brig, and Winston so they can play quick play with their PC friends.
I have a group of friends and all of us are on console except one person. Now we all either have to suffer through tilting our sticks a few degrees to try and perfectly track someone while PC widow makers use their entire arm to aim and click on our heads. We literally have to pick between having fun and playing with our PC friend
Honestly, for how long I’ve played Overwatch on Xbox (which if I can remember was 2 or 3 days before Ana dropped) I have never seen anything that involves aim assist in the game, to this day I still feel like aim assist isn’t even a thing in Overwatch (well, from my experience that it) unlike Apex
@@kng0000 like the guy in the video said, people like samito just aren't gonna change their minds, they've convinced themselves that AA is unfair when they sit there playing on a wired connection with 240hz and a 3080 in their pc lmao
You are absolutely right about MnK being so much more precise and downright easier to use than a controller. I had to switch from PC to Xbox, because my dinky computer can't play OW2 rn, and I have never played a console game that not only required me to utilize all the buttons but actively cramped my hands after only an hour of playtime. And mind you, I'm playing fucking Mercy, a character that requires no aim whatsoever, yet I actively contemplated buying a keyboard and mouse that was compatible with my xbox because I HATED how imprecise my movements were (especially with her new movement tech).
It's honestly ridiculous that we even have to have this conversation, I just wanna play with my friends who play on console and don't care about being good at the game we just wanna have a good time on some qp
I already know this video is a banger, I wanna play with pc friends without worrying to play melee characters. F streamers like metro and samito saying it's not a big deal when they're pc gamers, like bruh 💀 if aim assist is nonexistent in overwatch, why complain about it?
I used to think “hey, samito isn’t that bad. He often criticises bad decisions with overwatch and I respect that because no content creators who get monetary support from blizzard often do that” Ow2 comes out, and all of a sudden not only does he start licking blizzards boot, but he comes up with some hot ass takes. I’m a console player originally I’ve played on ps4 between 2018-2019 (almost 2 years). Since 2020 I’ve been on PC. I was a mercy/brig/lucio/moira main because I couldn’t aim for shit! I now have played ana and bap etc because I can actually aim enough to be impactful. Going back to console is impossible for me because controller is so damn hard. Mouse and keyboard is so much easier to learn. Don’t get me wrong it takes time, but once you get the right sens, you improve so much. I agree with all you’ve said here raider. At the end of the day it’s fcking quickplay!!
A lot of content creators are kinda in denial. They desperately want OW2 to be great because it's either their main source of income, or they want it to be their main source of income. Also, knowing how Blizzard's culture is, you have to lick their boots to get treated nicely by them.
@@justinoliveira3063 you got that right. I actually like ow2 for the gameplay. But there’s so many server connection issues, the battle pass is not good at all and I won’t be buying it, they’re selling old skins for real money, and more. It’s crazy that stylosa of all people, the “I’m masters but I’m gonna review bronze players gameplay” guy is one of the only people criticising the game 🤦♀️
Great video as always but in overwatch there’s two different aim assist for console. Legacy and the normal one. The legacy one slows down your cross hair as you get onto an enemy like Apex’s aim assist
I'm a pc player that owns a controller. After an argument with a few friends and trying to use a controller for a bit (pre aim assist patch for OW2) , I quickly realized that console players should really have some form of aim assist. It's so much easier to aim with a mouse than a controller
You don't even need to be able to play with aim assist to play heroes like moira, monkey, and the list goes on. I don't get why this is even an issue as controller has worse movement for squishies as they can't AD strafe, and the only way to not let them get completely fucked is to amp up the aim assist.
(Heavy breathing) YOUR LIFE WILL CONSUMED BY ABSOLUTE LOSS Then and only then will you understand what you have done to me I will not kill you boy yooouu suffer with me and then one day you will see again (in the game) and when you do Raider please come to me
Honestly more voices should speak on this. Aim assist is to assist!!! Not snapping to head shots or cheating..... this dudes talking out his ass. Smh thanks for speaking out on this
I like how Splatoon does aim assist. They don’t have it, they have gyro controls so you move your controller around to aim and it’s surprisingly precise at first it’s a little difficult but once you adapt you are better than even aim assist. Let’s just get gyro controls for overwatch then they can’t complain when they lose to a controller player using gyro.
I agree with Raider. I used to play Titanfall 1 religiously. I tried playing with mouse and keyboard, but something just felt off. That game was basically just CoD with advanced movement before CoD ripped that feature off. I just decided to try controller and to my shock and horror the aim assist was so broken in that game that it had an immediate effect on my game play. I started topping leader boards left and right because it actually made a difference. That level of brokenness does not exist in OW.
Thank you Mr. Raider for not being like Warn with non existent drops. And also educational plus please make us another Halloween special with 3 scary stories like the Ow1 one. Also please upload more. Love you.
doing a 180 for most controller players is nearly impossible unless your sensitivity is through the roof, and most hardly adjust it, thus sombra eats free most of the time.
as someone who has played 500+ hours on pc and 300+ on console, the aim assist is not a problem, if you dont like it you very simply have a skill issue.
I hate these People that say Aim Assist=Aimbot Dude we can like 4 Finger on our Controller you can use Both your hands on mouse and keyboard dude we have Limit on Con which means we get some help but you can do on PC can do what you want and allways change that
Tbh I was never bothered by the whole mnk v controller argument until I had 78% scoped accuracy on Ana my FIRST game EVER playinf an fps using a mouse and it took me over a year to be able to consistently hit my shots on controller. Like samito needs to bffr
It's crazy how far someone's had has to be up their own ass to just not see other perspectives at all, it's like samito just doesn't even know what a controller is at this point
They act like aim assist controls every single movement in our camera actually crazy how much they wanna cry when they already have everything going for them
Great video man, points were very clear and stuck to the original argument. Hopefully with the amount of people speaking up about this issue now it might be looked at, good job man
Might just be my settings cause my aim ease in is 0, but if anything that just shows I'm not going off anecdotal evidence of being a braindead aim assist abuser
Its funny because aim assist in overwatch is notoriously shit. All it does 90% of the time is somewhat slow down your sensitivity when your reticle is near a target, and the other 10% of the time it ruins your aim when a closer range target enters your fov and slows your sensitivity unexpectedly. So many people complain about how useless it is compared to other console shooters.
3:28 My guy says “both players having equal tools to play with” like bruh, you got a mouse which helps u aim exponentially better than 2 plastic sticks because you’re using your WHOLE HAND and wrist to aim while controllers just have 2 tiny sticks only controllable by thumbs. What’s this dude on lol. Also, why is a pc player so against aim assist on consoles when it’s only gonna be usable in quick play anyway?
What makes me mad is that most people when defending aim assist when talking about M&K vs console instead of giving actual solutions in ways to improve aiming for controller in the aspect of analogical input, the actual person doing the movement/ motion for the game to render, keep defending shit like slow down, soft tracking,rotational aim assist, bullet magnetism or other bullshit. The moment you add a digital noise to improve the input it starts to be artificial boost. The reason why this didn't break the idea of fair play in console environment is because both ends have it. Now M&K is just better in both floor and ceiling when comparing to the sticks without aim assist that is not even a discussion. What should actually be done is the developers implement gyro aiming for controller like Splatoon or flick stick to improve the ceiling controller can achieve so the gap is much closer to M&K. Why? because in lower tier play in dozens of games with M&K vs controller when the aim assist is tuned even slightly up, even when M&K is still better in higher tier play, controller becomes slightly better for casuals in a skill to output performance ratio. Casuals are the majority of the player base of a game. The sole reason that stuff passed in other games is because the player base size was larger on console, but in Overwatch the majority is PC. Then there is the thing of but the amount or way the aim assist we want for crossplay overwatch is much lower then other games and such, my guy just think, would you prefer being able to track long range targets much easier from a far, flick more consistently and still have high precision then some slow down or small rotational aim assist? L bet NO. And we gotta remember besides official xbox controllers most modern controllers right now can do it, playstation, switch and third party xbox controllers can.
All ow aa does is slow down the aim when close to an enemy. I wish there was a way to manually slow down my aiming when in pc lobbies. As it I have to pick between high sense to be able to move well, or low sense to be able to hit the enemy. I’ve been playing a lot with a couple of my pc friends. I just go Reinhardt and absolutely shit on the pc players lol.
I really hate it when I there's a game i can finally play with my PC friends crossplay and whining about aim assist in casual lobbies prevents me from enjoying that. I can't speak for all console players but i have a pretty good feeling what most of us want is just to be able to come home from a long day of work turn on our consols and queue up with a few friends and actually enjoy playing with them without investing hours a day to "better ourselves". (If you wanna know why console players call PC elitist children this is why. It's about how many hours a day they think most of us have to dedicate to a game we play for fun.) If me being able to do this hurts the sanctity of your game then your game sucked to begin with.
It’s never made any sense to me to not give console players aim assist in PC lobbies. Defeats the purpose of “cross platform”. Which was great for pc and Xbox playing together but I’ll never understand the bitching from PC players. Crying about not finding games because the player pop was on life support. Gee, wouldn’t it be great if you had an injection of players from Xbox and PS that you guys could play with? They act like aim assist automatically increases our frame rates and our movement too.
Hello pc guy here, I see no problem having aim assist enabled on unranked games when you are playing with your pc friends. Unranked has such wild matchmaking anyway that it kinda doesn't matter if you have aim assist or not. Competitive would be a more complicated issue and worst case you could still have another pool that is mixed separately from the usual one and that would be fine. I feel like Samito is traumatized from warzone and apex where aim assist is crazy and doesn't know that ow has a lot less.
Haven’t played in awhile now but when I did I Had a bro who’s on pc I play with from time to time, I’m only a diamond player but could avg 45-53% accuracy with Cassidy on console lobby’s, go to pc lobbies with him and having no aim assist and I struggle to hit 15% it’s quite literally almost un playable on most characters or atleast for me it is and just means I generally don’t play with them.
We legit just wanna be able to play with our friends, blizzard taking aim assist out of cross play quick play is like giving kids cereal with a fork lol!!! Thought this was a pretty good analogy
I’ve been saying this for the longest, and it really shouldn’t be a super long conversation. OW aim assist is the most fair aim assist on any console game, and it hurts us more than it helps a lot of the times. PC players would still shit on console players if they were pooled together. The whole problem is that these PC players think all aim assist is the same across all games.
I played Xbox all my life and after the first week of OW2 I switched to pc and was actually hitting my Hanzo arrows and doing good. I feel like if I had to 1v1 myself on controller, I would win on pc easily.
Honestly, the only way that you can get annoying ass aim like warzone and apex is if they let you crank that shit up to the thousands, even at 100% strength on Ana, it’s not strong and just nudges your crosshair over a bit, I personally do use aim assist but at an extremity low strength since I’m trying to get better at flicks and tracking, but if people wanna use aim assist on full strength, let ‘em , it’s not doing much
When I had swapped to PC for like 2 months I went in thinking "OK PC players hyping EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the platform like they're Jesus this is gonna be hard" needless to say I legit had an easier time on PC than I have every had on the sticks
I feel that with how chaotic overwatch team fights are its fair that console player get aim assist, especially for last gen player who are stuck with 30 fps
i guess the ONLY issue i can agree w is that there are already soo many ximmers on xbox and blizz is trying to keep those players from crossing over to PC lobbies since they themselves will have their own sliiight advantage, ya know?
MnK adapters in general are not a bannable offense but many xims and other adapters come with "cheats" like anti-recoil, macros, and scripts which all do actually go against microsofts terms of service.
The consoles specs (atleast last gens) were pretty much all the same, pc players all have drastically different specs some get 60fps and some get 500, it’s not fair to say that both teams are going to have the same tools if one person literally just has a better rig
this gon be a good one 😈
update: zero misses. good shit for sticking up for what you believe in and being REAL about it instead of putting a mask on like some other creators do
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I guess that’s what it’s like to be pinned by raider
I don't think Blizz will ever budge on this issue anyway, but I do appreciate that there's at least a few voices in the OW community who'll stand up for us console players. Sam's ability to say all of this with his VOD still on his channel of him attempting to play controller with no aa and giving up is comedy gold, especially when he acknowledges the video and says "that doesn't have anything to do with it". Sam's either a top tier toll or his years of playing OW has finally truly drained him of his sanity lol.
Prob not but thankfully game will die just like overwatch 1
They did it
Banger video. One of the biggest indicators imo, is ximming. If aim assist was truly as strong as he claims, you wouldn’t see so many xim MNK players in high ranks
Facts
Pure, I said this exact same thing to someone in his comment section on his response video, and I got the stupid response "That's not even an argument, that doesn't mean anything".
It's damn near impossible to reach master or above on console unless you use a xim, that's now how the game should be played.
You do realise XIM allow MNK player to have aim assist right ?
Yeah. Xim allows MnK with aim assist. No shot they're high rank. Console has a MASSIVE cheater problem. Don't bring that garbage to PC.
His ego can't handle losing to a controller 🤓🤣🤣🤣
You're crying to get AA cuz your ego is at stake. Console diamond and getting shit on by PC silvers hahaha
Every console player would be 4k if aim assist was truly like aimbot as Samito says💀
This makes no sense since the potential would rise for everybody. Literally nothing would change. Not every player can win at the same time...
@@Luckyluckyluc well no shit everyone can’t win at the same time
@@Awoken- yes, so not everyone would suddenly get a higher rating, that's not how it works... when everyone gets better, no one (relatively speaking) gets better - and the ranking system works relatively...
Bro literally said aim assist is a form of aim bot and forgot that he said it like 5 minutes later 💀
What adderall does to a person.
If it does anything artificially to help your aim, it is an aimbot. He litterally went over different types of hacks, but you think Aimbot is just snap instant kill. There are soft aimbots out there too.
Me personally, I am a pc player that came from console. Aim assist in overwatch is basically nothing, so I don't really see why samito has a problem with it and blizzard should really just allow it so people can play with their friends. That being said I do agree with samito on the part where he said aim assist is mild aimbot, but only for games such as warzone and apex cuz that shit is broken over there.
Still not as good as mnk
Samito just mad bc he gets shit on by console players and was hardstuck gold lol goldmito
if its basically nothing, then whats the problem if its off? Thats the point, its NOT nothing... which is why you're upset its not there. It's like strapping an electric motor to a mountain bike that you want to enter into the tour de france. It's not the right bike for the job and no you dont get an electric motor to help you when its too difficult.
@@theonlygus
Aim assist is nothing like aimbot. 😂
@@theonlygus First off Tour De France uses road bikes not mountain bikes. Second off the bikes they use are custom designed for the rider to maximise their potential. Think of aim assist as a specific frame size for the rider so they aren’t forced to use the same bike frame designed for a mouse user. That way it removes the any awkwardness from the Equipment and makes it more fair overall.
Also aim assist is designed to deal with a thing called Deadzones within a controller. Without specific software it’s difficult to know your own controllers deadzones. Therefore places controller players at a disadvantage in a way and that wouldn’t be fair either now would it?
By samitos logic, is widow ultimate cheating? its walls-
might aswell just disable soldier 76 at this point, bro might have an aneurysm if he sees what real aimbot looks like
Widow's Ult? We haven't even started on Soldier which is the definition of Aimbot. It aims automatically.
Aye you a real one sticking up for us Console Players. Gs Raider you are awesome!
why does he care like he plays qp? literally said all that and went straight into a comp queue
I swear all PC elitists are NPCs. They just say the same thing about aim assist. Challenge a PC elitist to not bring up another game and watch their veins pop.
Controller is unplayable in PC lobbies and I can't play with my console friends because they don't have a chance without aim assist. I would love to see Samito go a full month only using a controller in PC lobbies, Thank you for this video because aim assist definitely needs to be enabled so we can play with our buds and have a good time.
Kudos to you for sticking up for console players.
I'm so glad at least SOMEONE is mentioning this
A ton of my friends I've been looking forward to playing ow2 with are on pc and honestly because of the lack of aim assist it just makes playing with them miserable for me because I'm basically ruining our teams chances of winning all because "aim assist is op"
Guess everyone who thinks that forgot the basic fact that the reason aim assist even exists to begin with is because aiming on a controller is dreadful
Play Hog, problem fixed…
Same but I just play Rein Brig with my pc friends 😅
You know it’s a good day when GS Raider posts 🙏
Been waiting for this! Thanks for standing up for us console players bro!
these people act as if we want aim assist in literally every mode, even if it's in comp. we legit just want it in quick play, and not comp solely because we realize there has to be a major balance diff between comp and casual. not only that, but we also wanna keep that aim assist while playing with our PC buddies in.. who woulda guessed it? *quick play.* i'm not even a hardcore controller geek who can't play without aim assist, and i realize this. to quote you from the last video: "it's quick play, who cares?"
After having 1000+ hours in OverWatch l'll say this with confidence the aim assist is not that good, the only thing it does is slows down your sensitivity when your Crosshair is near your opponent tracking your opponent is your own still alone.
Right. Compared to fortnite on expo and apex its really not that good. But with it activated i have almost the same aim as if im on pc. Pc players still have 400+ fps, a large desk, a whole arm to aim, fov sliders but still whine about how broken aimassist is. Fun fakt most of them never tried to play on a controller..they still miss every bullet with godly aim assist 🤣
Honestly, in console OW I play with aim assist entirely off because more often than not, it tends to mess up my shots rather than help.
Same. I only have smoothing and a bit of slow down so I don’t over-aim at farther distances, but the normal aim assist is basically turned off for me. Sometimes those settings still mess me up if someone goes infront of the person that I’m trying to shoot at when scoped in as Widow or Ashe, but overall they help me acquire targets and shoot a few milliseconds sooner, which can really be the difference.
As a former controller/Consol player, I can 100% agree that it is stupid that you do not have aim assist when playing with PC players.
'give both players, on both teams, equal tools to win and those who expresses more skill, should go on to win the game', 'mouse and keyboard is better at skill expression' 💀 - Samito's (aka Man child) thought of what fair play is.
@@TheBussyAnnihilator i've literally quoted what he said in the video. how tf have i put words in his mouth?
@@TheBussyAnnihilator you just 'misrepresent' (whatever that means) the argument to make a false point yourself.
@That Guy i think you mean 'misinterpereted' instead of misrepresent since that word dont mean damn shit in your sentence. literally trying to have an argument throwing immature insults at me that i've seen come from a 10 year old. and I DID quote him dipshit. maybe take a look at the video YOURSELF and come back since i dont think you have heard the dumb shit samito has been saying, contradicting himself every second. so its not me thats making samito seem like hes contradicting himself, its himself thats doing it to himself. i cant take you seriously. good job representing the pc players. good job.
I had the most insane encounter with an entitled mnk warrior in the comments section of that Samito video. They told me I was trying to “force the entire PC Overwatch community to bow down to your demands” all because I said it forces me into the PC pool when I play with my little brother because he has a PC and I don’t 😭
I been playing with aim-assist off on console pools just to practice when I get in pc pools & I been absolutely miserable. I play support mostly Lucio & Zenyatta, with the meta that's going on it feels really annoying to try to learn in a environment that works against you. So far my practice has been really poor & I even went to research if I could actually improve without AA but I couldn't find much so I'm kind of stuck on what to do.
Also I appreciate you defending console folks & standing up to elitist mindsets ❤
When he contradicted himself with saying, "when did I say aim assist was aimbot?", I couldn't take him seriously at that point
Hi I know it's been almost 1 year, but could you tell me what settings do you use? I have been trying to use 0 aim assist and it's really fricking hard to hit, is ether too fast or too slow, I been playing alot of Mcree and Hanzo, yesterday got 10 loses in a row. Appreciate tips too!
And I have been thinking if I should put the aim assist stuff on 50 or just max, I really want to get better without it, but is just impossible and just makes me trow my games by ALOT. Playing OW on console is extremely hard without it.
Samito been real quiet
As a console player, this just checks every box for me. PC players are able to better control their aim because it’s more precise whereas console players CAN get really good aim, but it takes way longer because stick sensitivity is never going to be as good as mouse sensitivity (by that I mean the ability to be as accurate with where you want to place your shots). Console players only have a slight movement advantage imo cuz sticks offer more direction control than the keyboard, but in terms of aiming and getting kills, PC mops the floor with console
I never understood why pc players complain about aim assist as a pc player, on console i am literally so dogshit compared to pc
Only a few months back Raider spoke very highly of Samito and now.💀
Still will speak highly of him, just need to say my thoughts on his AA takes
What sparked this topic up again? I noticed a few videos popping up today. PC players got all their tools including extra settings, hardware, key binds, and general set up that can give them a huge advantage. Why is AA in QP so concerning when these guys only play ranked anyway? It really just makes the ability to crossplay with PC players pointless.
They're bored and need KHANTENT
Hey, good video. I've been sharing your videos with my friends because you're funny as hell. I sure as hell hope you keep making videos
I agree that console and PC pools should be separate but Blizzard needs to give console players the ability to plug in our mouse and keyboard and play in PC pools without it being a massive buggy mess.
Tell me how do i play with mouse and keyboard on a freakin couch? Not every consolero sitting on an gaming chair / pc desk. Just activate aa and we're all good
I played one game vs cpu on a jank laptop that turned into a slideshow when more than 2 ults were used at once. Even then, it felt better aiming with a $10 Walmart mouse than a controller, because it’s easier. Sami to doesn’t know what he’s talking about, especially when console players don’t wanna be limited to Rein, Mercy, Moira, Brig, and Winston so they can play quick play with their PC friends.
I have a group of friends and all of us are on console except one person. Now we all either have to suffer through tilting our sticks a few degrees to try and perfectly track someone while PC widow makers use their entire arm to aim and click on our heads.
We literally have to pick between having fun and playing with our PC friend
It's extremely infuriating
Bruh, all this to keep me from playing my favorite hitscan heroes with my PC friend
Raider why are you making this bum more relevant I haven’t heard from samito since the renaissance until now 😭
Damn Raider must be doing good for himself, he doesn’t like every single comment and reply on the video anymore to game the algorithm
Boy you would've thought
Honestly, for how long I’ve played Overwatch on Xbox (which if I can remember was 2 or 3 days before Ana dropped) I have never seen anything that involves aim assist in the game, to this day I still feel like aim assist isn’t even a thing in Overwatch (well, from my experience that it) unlike Apex
you notice it coming from pc, but who gives a shit, we just wanna play qp, in a console comp game everyone has it anyway
@@Kay_OC fr, i dont see the issue here with AA. i turned mine down since it hindered my performance rather than improving it.
@@kng0000 like the guy in the video said, people like samito just aren't gonna change their minds, they've convinced themselves that AA is unfair when they sit there playing on a wired connection with 240hz and a 3080 in their pc lmao
You are absolutely right about MnK being so much more precise and downright easier to use than a controller. I had to switch from PC to Xbox, because my dinky computer can't play OW2 rn, and I have never played a console game that not only required me to utilize all the buttons but actively cramped my hands after only an hour of playtime. And mind you, I'm playing fucking Mercy, a character that requires no aim whatsoever, yet I actively contemplated buying a keyboard and mouse that was compatible with my xbox because I HATED how imprecise my movements were (especially with her new movement tech).
It's honestly ridiculous that we even have to have this conversation, I just wanna play with my friends who play on console and don't care about being good at the game we just wanna have a good time on some qp
I already know this video is a banger, I wanna play with pc friends without worrying to play melee characters. F streamers like metro and samito saying it's not a big deal when they're pc gamers, like bruh 💀 if aim assist is nonexistent in overwatch, why complain about it?
I used to think “hey, samito isn’t that bad. He often criticises bad decisions with overwatch and I respect that because no content creators who get monetary support from blizzard often do that”
Ow2 comes out, and all of a sudden not only does he start licking blizzards boot, but he comes up with some hot ass takes.
I’m a console player originally I’ve played on ps4 between 2018-2019 (almost 2 years). Since 2020 I’ve been on PC. I was a mercy/brig/lucio/moira main because I couldn’t aim for shit! I now have played ana and bap etc because I can actually aim enough to be impactful. Going back to console is impossible for me because controller is so damn hard. Mouse and keyboard is so much easier to learn. Don’t get me wrong it takes time, but once you get the right sens, you improve so much. I agree with all you’ve said here raider. At the end of the day it’s fcking quickplay!!
A lot of content creators are kinda in denial. They desperately want OW2 to be great because it's either their main source of income, or they want it to be their main source of income. Also, knowing how Blizzard's culture is, you have to lick their boots to get treated nicely by them.
@@justinoliveira3063 you got that right. I actually like ow2 for the gameplay. But there’s so many server connection issues, the battle pass is not good at all and I won’t be buying it, they’re selling old skins for real money, and more. It’s crazy that stylosa of all people, the “I’m masters but I’m gonna review bronze players gameplay” guy is one of the only people criticising the game 🤦♀️
Clicked faster than my respect for samito disappeared
Great video as always but in overwatch there’s two different aim assist for console. Legacy and the normal one. The legacy one slows down your cross hair as you get onto an enemy like Apex’s aim assist
I'm a pc player that owns a controller. After an argument with a few friends and trying to use a controller for a bit (pre aim assist patch for OW2) , I quickly realized that console players should really have some form of aim assist. It's so much easier to aim with a mouse than a controller
I don’t even play console but I agree 100% with what this guy says
Once again the king 👑 has spoken truth
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I feel like samito is hated by almost everyone in the ow community
Funny thing is he's my favorite creator in the community 💀
How does it feel to never miss???
A upload before December, I’m surprised
You don't even need to be able to play with aim assist to play heroes like moira, monkey, and the list goes on. I don't get why this is even an issue as controller has worse movement for squishies as they can't AD strafe, and the only way to not let them get completely fucked is to amp up the aim assist.
Just because you’re good at a game, doesn’t mean you have common sense
(Heavy breathing)
YOUR LIFE WILL CONSUMED BY ABSOLUTE LOSS
Then and only then will you understand what you have done to me
I will not kill you boy yooouu suffer with me and then one day you will see again (in the game) and when you do Raider please come to me
If aim assist is so bad , why doesn’t he pick up the controller and reach gm to prove himself
He tried. He gave up at Gold.
Group of enemies together and my aim assist doesnt know which guy it wants to help me aim at.
Honestly more voices should speak on this. Aim assist is to assist!!! Not snapping to head shots or cheating..... this dudes talking out his ass. Smh thanks for speaking out on this
Ikr overwatch has literally the most balanced aim assist since it doesnt automatically snap on but it slow your sensitivity when aimming at enemys
I like how Splatoon does aim assist. They don’t have it, they have gyro controls so you move your controller around to aim and it’s surprisingly precise at first it’s a little difficult but once you adapt you are better than even aim assist. Let’s just get gyro controls for overwatch then they can’t complain when they lose to a controller player using gyro.
I am tired of hearing brain dead PC Players man..I just wanna have fun with my controller
I agree with Raider. I used to play Titanfall 1 religiously. I tried playing with mouse and keyboard, but something just felt off. That game was basically just CoD with advanced movement before CoD ripped that feature off. I just decided to try controller and to my shock and horror the aim assist was so broken in that game that it had an immediate effect on my game play. I started topping leader boards left and right because it actually made a difference. That level of brokenness does not exist in OW.
Thank you Mr. Raider for not being like Warn with non existent drops. And also educational plus please make us another Halloween special with 3 scary stories like the Ow1 one. Also please upload more. Love you.
doing a 180 for most controller players is nearly impossible unless your sensitivity is through the roof, and most hardly adjust it, thus sombra eats free most of the time.
Samito try not to complain challenge
My only issue is it makes the experience miserable for a good portion of my friends when we play because they play on console while I’m on PC.
as someone who has played 500+ hours on pc and 300+ on console, the aim assist is not a problem, if you dont like it you very simply have a skill issue.
I hate these People that say Aim Assist=Aimbot Dude we can like 4 Finger on our Controller you can use Both your hands on mouse and keyboard dude we have Limit on Con which means we get some help but you can do on PC can do what you want and allways change that
Tbh I was never bothered by the whole mnk v controller argument until I had 78% scoped accuracy on Ana my FIRST game EVER playinf an fps using a mouse and it took me over a year to be able to consistently hit my shots on controller. Like samito needs to bffr
It's crazy how far someone's had has to be up their own ass to just not see other perspectives at all, it's like samito just doesn't even know what a controller is at this point
The worst part is none of this will affect samito since he only plays competitive
Watching these pc players thinking that aim assist is aim bot when overwatch 2 is nothing like apex or other games is so tilting
They act like aim assist controls every single movement in our camera actually crazy how much they wanna cry when they already have everything going for them
Great video man, points were very clear and stuck to the original argument. Hopefully with the amount of people speaking up about this issue now it might be looked at, good job man
Legit have so much love for u thanks for speaking for us
I came in here thinking aim assist would be aimbot but with a different name, dawg where is the aim assist at all in 1:32
Might just be my settings cause my aim ease in is 0, but if anything that just shows I'm not going off anecdotal evidence of being a braindead aim assist abuser
Its funny because aim assist in overwatch is notoriously shit. All it does 90% of the time is somewhat slow down your sensitivity when your reticle is near a target, and the other 10% of the time it ruins your aim when a closer range target enters your fov and slows your sensitivity unexpectedly. So many people complain about how useless it is compared to other console shooters.
3:28 My guy says “both players having equal tools to play with” like bruh, you got a mouse which helps u aim exponentially better than 2 plastic sticks because you’re using your WHOLE HAND and wrist to aim while controllers just have 2 tiny sticks only controllable by thumbs.
What’s this dude on lol. Also, why is a pc player so against aim assist on consoles when it’s only gonna be usable in quick play anyway?
What makes me mad is that most people when defending aim assist when talking about M&K vs console instead of giving actual solutions in ways to improve aiming for controller in the aspect of analogical input, the actual person doing the movement/ motion for the game to render, keep defending shit like slow down, soft tracking,rotational aim assist, bullet magnetism or other bullshit. The moment you add a digital noise to improve the input it starts to be artificial boost. The reason why this didn't break the idea of fair play in console environment is because both ends have it. Now M&K is just better in both floor and ceiling when comparing to the sticks without aim assist that is not even a discussion. What should actually be done is the developers implement gyro aiming for controller like Splatoon or flick stick to improve the ceiling controller can achieve so the gap is much closer to M&K. Why? because in lower tier play in dozens of games with M&K vs controller when the aim assist is tuned even slightly up, even when M&K is still better in higher tier play, controller becomes slightly better for casuals in a skill to output performance ratio. Casuals are the majority of the player base of a game. The sole reason that stuff passed in other games is because the player base size was larger on console, but in Overwatch the majority is PC. Then there is the thing of but the amount or way the aim assist we want for crossplay overwatch is much lower then other games and such, my guy just think, would you prefer being able to track long range targets much easier from a far, flick more consistently and still have high precision then some slow down or small rotational aim assist? L bet NO. And we gotta remember besides official xbox controllers most modern controllers right now can do it, playstation, switch and third party xbox controllers can.
let me find out Raider is getting a consistent upload schedule
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Fun Fact: you can move your wrist faster and more fluently than your thumbs. Feels like that says it all.
5:49 DOG NAH 💀💀
All ow aa does is slow down the aim when close to an enemy. I wish there was a way to manually slow down my aiming when in pc lobbies. As it I have to pick between high sense to be able to move well, or low sense to be able to hit the enemy. I’ve been playing a lot with a couple of my pc friends. I just go Reinhardt and absolutely shit on the pc players lol.
I already play rein with 0 aim assist and everything in advanced to 0. Unlucky he's a bad tank so I can't really just auto lock him and roll
I really hate it when I there's a game i can finally play with my PC friends crossplay and whining about aim assist in casual lobbies prevents me from enjoying that. I can't speak for all console players but i have a pretty good feeling what most of us want is just to be able to come home from a long day of work turn on our consols and queue up with a few friends and actually enjoy playing with them without investing hours a day to "better ourselves". (If you wanna know why console players call PC elitist children this is why. It's about how many hours a day they think most of us have to dedicate to a game we play for fun.) If me being able to do this hurts the sanctity of your game then your game sucked to begin with.
It’s never made any sense to me to not give console players aim assist in PC lobbies. Defeats the purpose of “cross platform”. Which was great for pc and Xbox playing together but I’ll never understand the bitching from PC players.
Crying about not finding games because the player pop was on life support. Gee, wouldn’t it be great if you had an injection of players from Xbox and PS that you guys could play with?
They act like aim assist automatically increases our frame rates and our movement too.
Hello pc guy here, I see no problem having aim assist enabled on unranked games when you are playing with your pc friends. Unranked has such wild matchmaking anyway that it kinda doesn't matter if you have aim assist or not. Competitive would be a more complicated issue and worst case you could still have another pool that is mixed separately from the usual one and that would be fine. I feel like Samito is traumatized from warzone and apex where aim assist is crazy and doesn't know that ow has a lot less.
i finished listening to daddy raider
Haven’t played in awhile now but when I did I Had a bro who’s on pc I play with from time to time, I’m only a diamond player but could avg 45-53% accuracy with Cassidy on console lobby’s, go to pc lobbies with him and having no aim assist and I struggle to hit 15% it’s quite literally almost un playable on most characters or atleast for me it is and just means I generally don’t play with them.
Hmm playing in a Pc pool with Ana, no aim assist and landing almost every single shot.... bruh 🔥🥵🔥
We legit just wanna be able to play with our friends, blizzard taking aim assist out of cross play quick play is like giving kids cereal with a fork lol!!!
Thought this was a pretty good analogy
YOOO, RAIDER. They did it. We can play with our PC friends without looking like newborn children touching a controller for the first time
It’s a great day when raider uploads
I’ve been saying this for the longest, and it really shouldn’t be a super long conversation.
OW aim assist is the most fair aim assist on any console game, and it hurts us more than it helps a lot of the times. PC players would still shit on console players if they were pooled together.
The whole problem is that these PC players think all aim assist is the same across all games.
😩 I wish this was top comment
I played Xbox all my life and after the first week of OW2 I switched to pc and was actually hitting my Hanzo arrows and doing good. I feel like if I had to 1v1 myself on controller, I would win on pc easily.
Honestly, the only way that you can get annoying ass aim like warzone and apex is if they let you crank that shit up to the thousands, even at 100% strength on Ana, it’s not strong and just nudges your crosshair over a bit, I personally do use aim assist but at an extremity low strength since I’m trying to get better at flicks and tracking, but if people wanna use aim assist on full strength, let ‘em , it’s not doing much
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Thanks man!
When I had swapped to PC for like 2 months I went in thinking "OK PC players hyping EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the platform like they're Jesus this is gonna be hard" needless to say I legit had an easier time on PC than I have every had on the sticks
I feel that with how chaotic overwatch team fights are its fair that console player get aim assist, especially for last gen player who are stuck with 30 fps
i guess the ONLY issue i can agree w is that there are already soo many ximmers on xbox and blizz is trying to keep those players from crossing over to PC lobbies since they themselves will have their own sliiight advantage, ya know?
Imo they're not adding it cause they're either too lazy or don't give af enough about console
Let’s have all the pc players play together. They keep their cheater in one player base.
Look up the definition of Inequalitiy, equity, equality and justice and then it is obvious how unfair it is for us not having aim assist in crossplay
MnK adapters in general are not a bannable offense but many xims and other adapters come with "cheats" like anti-recoil, macros, and scripts which all do actually go against microsofts terms of service.
The consoles specs (atleast last gens) were pretty much all the same, pc players all have drastically different specs some get 60fps and some get 500, it’s not fair to say that both teams are going to have the same tools if one person literally just has a better rig
I’ve been waiting on this one man holy shit thank you bruh
For my console gang🤠