@@tarango759 I mean he kinda does it to himself a lot. Tells us that their whole comp counters him, and then when a teammate says the same thing he starts arguments saying they don't lol
@@MarsMews yeah I agree and I know that the main source of value of a ton of dive heroes is taking attention and time and abilities. Just saying he creates a lot of toxic situations with his teammates by keeping humility out of team chat. Even though his teammates are correct and he knows it he just starts shit for no reason
It low key is tho for all the reasons he mentioned. You’re invincible while ulting, you heal, get cooldowns back faster, free empowered punch PLUS all the overhealth generated from hitting people and it literally can’t be canceled bc it’s frame 1 escape option. It’s just very feast or famine
@@brycenb2994it’s not bad, but not even close to broken, it’s mostly just a survivability tool that lets you disengage and reengage, nothing like plenty of other ults that just can carry fights all on their own very easily like a cage or whole hog just by melting the enemy tank
@@GetQuakedOnyou play doom in every game in every match no matter your comp. And playing all dive, all poke, etc is never necessary nor is it the most efficient way to build a lineup
@@JayFox128it's not the most efficient but if they clearly see their team diving and it's working, how're you gonna complain when YOU are the problem and why your team is struggling more than they should be
There’s no way their bap was tryna say doom ult is busted. It does a solid 15 dmg if you are an inch outside of the middle circle and if you miss empowered punch you’re probably gonna be in a bad position. It’s a utility ult that scales with skill
The thing that kills me the most is he’s playing mother fucking bap….. he has no right speaking about broken stuff when his character is all roles in one💀
@@mohammadalhusaini810 god immortal field is so annoying as doom even if I can punch them out, my attacks already do bad damage, why negate my chances at kills 😔
But It low key IS broken tho and for all the reasons he mentioned. You’re invincible while ulting, you heal, get cooldowns back faster, free empowered punch PLUS all the overhealth generated from hitting people and it literally can’t be canceled bc it’s frame 1 escape option. It’s just very feast or famine They also buffed it so the minimum damage it can do is 50. Not 15. And saying “oh but you can miss your punch tho” is so random. 😂
@@brycenb2994 yeah and your a literal sitting duck while you land susceptible to sleep, hook, hack, flashbang, rock, javelin and enemy doom punch but yeah very broken am i right??
I thought Doom was completely unviable. I practiced in QP until I figured out how to properly use his techs and strategy. My third game in comp we were doing very well and when we swapped to defense one of my DPS refused to continue playing until I swapped because he said he was carrying. When he said this He had about 20 kills and I had 18. The game ended after he stopped playing and I had 37-6
It annoys me when I pick a tank hero and the other team has a few counters to that hero, and my team flames me for staying on that character. Why is it always the tanks that have to switch? A few good dps and support hero switches can negate the counters and improve the team comp. Especially the stubborn supports who refuse to accommodate the rest of the team.
even if u carry as doom, it's always the support or dps who happens to be performing the worst in the game and is the one asking you to switch, like with what right you ask me to switch lmfao, they always saying shit like, "No space, we can't walk, no tank gg", and when you watch the replay, it was them who were dying because of their own mistakes
The reason is because tank is extremely important to the team, theres only one tank and its the strongest hero on the field. If you get hard counter swapped, your teammates swapping doesnt just cancel it out. Youre still going to get perma hacked by that sombra. This is coming from a tank main.
@@loganbivins2438 the whole team swapping to accommodate a good comp is way more impactful than some tank counters. A tank can realistically outplay the counters, and a good team comp can back them up
@@morgangrisby8107 😂 Good one. Even if he were. He got washed up when it mattered the least in ow. Now everyones washed up. Games a prime example of terrible management and balancing.
Telling them to play another character is the same argument that they were making, only difference is you didn’t complain and blame others lol. Respect
such a satisfying feeling of when someone tells u to switch off doom, u dont and proceed to shit on the whole enemy team the whole game, and then all the of sudden the people who told u to switch are all quiet LMAO
Sombra is the only character that keeps me from becoming a doom one trick because i value my sanity…..genuinely baffles me how they see this character’s gameplay and say “yeah thats fun and balanced” at least you can play around hog and orisa
Eh, I don't really think Doom can play around Hog. If you leave him alone to focus on backline, then he kills your team since his oneshot is so easy and consistent. If you face him directly you die because of your pitiful health and hook going right through block.
@@tau-5794Actually is very doable to play against Hog, just be aggro when he has no hook and stay out of LOS when he has it and try to punch him whenever he hooks a teammate.
@eauscriptos I think it's map dependant (unless you're a doom god like quaked), it's super easy to play around hog on Watchpoint Gibraltar, not so much on like, Rialto or something Sometimes tho, people will swap just to counter you, even though they're not good at the characters. Consistent Counter swappers never fully master 1 champ, and it's obvious
The entire glide over the wall at the end, was sickkkkkk! Never seen you before, but I'm glad this was recommended! Only thought zbra was a doom main, but I'm glad to see another! Looking forward to seeing more of you bro
Imagine bringing stagnant supports to heal a dive comp, and then blame the tank for not surviving. "Yeah why should we adjust to the team comp, the tank should change" Classic Overwatch 2 experience.
bro your doom is so smooth. Like I am learning out doom and my doom looks like spazzing out. Yours is so so clean. Like there are some things that you do with doom that I didn't even know one can do.
Its funny how spot on ur support ranking is. My main duo used to otp Doom and we peaked with Mercyfist in OW 1. Nowadays with tank doom the combo kinda fell off but its still decent. Also had some good games with Weaver + Doom on Maps like Busan Downtown where highground goes crazy, probably a worthwhile addition to the list :D
I've gotten a good doom like 5 times in the entirety of me playing ow2. Most are mid or awful. Whenever I have a good one I remember it because we roll the other team.
Props to you. I’m a Sigma main on console. During the DVA meta I was asked to swap 20-30 times a season. But, Sigma can deny DVA so much value. I ended up with a 65 winrate the past two seasons
Maybe not in damage but it does do 50 minimum and gives your punch and slam back and 300hp so you can slam punch block punch ult punch block punch slam out
being a top doom player is one thing but a lot of doomfist mains end up swapping towards the end of the match after getting countered and not adjusting their play style
I had several talks on my channel about swapping, it's just baffling. Whenever you ask people how they know that switching is important, they just can't tell you. It's all from feelings, habit, and social brainwashing. They "just know". "Nothing else is possible". The same answers a cult member would give.
So many players think characters existing is the same as being countered. Countering is as much about out playing the opponent as it is choosing the right heroes. Especially in low ranks.
The sole reason i learned doom was to be free of enemy dps and supps swapping to ruin my best heroes. "Whatever the meta is doom players make it work" that's the way i thought and i still do.
Seems like dooms mobility is akin to TFC bunny hoping. It shouldn’t be removed but top speed could be limited? His primary fire is a slow shot gun like burst fire, but it can land “head shots” at quite the distance, should that be nerfed?
I play doom a lot and I was curious. How are you cancelling the slam ability without activating other cooldowns? Is that a feature that I just never knew about?? Do I tap the slam again?? Or is it just left clicking??
This reminds me of playing Monkey into a Reaper or Bastion. Those only counter BAD monkeys. If you're running Monkey on a dive map, Reaper does NOT counter AT ALL Like, all you do is just jump away
i dont see how tank is the issue when tracer genji die at the start of the fight and dude locks in illari despite the 3 dive heroes. the other sup prly felt the need to peel illari ig?
The only reason your playstyle works is because you posture lile a threat even when you arent charged. And in thay case doom is rather useless. So essentially you pop off because of an incorrect threat analysis from the enemy mixed with a desire to kill you because of ego
Quake is in a constant state of mogging on both the enemy team and his own team, bro literally 1v9s
he’s a one trick pony so he’s still scum of the earth that ruins the game
tank life
@@tarango759 I mean he kinda does it to himself a lot. Tells us that their whole comp counters him, and then when a teammate says the same thing he starts arguments saying they don't lol
@@jberts1023while it does, doom can bait majority of the cooldowns that counter him which also gives his team a resource advantage.
@@MarsMews yeah I agree and I know that the main source of value of a ton of dive heroes is taking attention and time and abilities. Just saying he creates a lot of toxic situations with his teammates by keeping humility out of team chat. Even though his teammates are correct and he knows it he just starts shit for no reason
DOOMFIST'S REAL COUNTERS:
1. Bugs
2. Map Geometry
3. Team comp
4. Enemy comp
"In that order" - Get-Selfcountered-On
Map geometry messes me up on any mobile hero. Mercy and Lucio I try to play but get caught on sooo many little doorways and unbreakable light post
No way someone unironically said "doom ult lowkey broken"
Yeah that was crazy lmao
guy must be baiting
@@ghoulbuster1 fr bro plays baptiste w immortality as an ability and complains about an ultimate lmfao
It low key is tho for all the reasons he mentioned. You’re invincible while ulting, you heal, get cooldowns back faster, free empowered punch PLUS all the overhealth generated from hitting people and it literally can’t be canceled bc it’s frame 1 escape option.
It’s just very feast or famine
@@brycenb2994it’s not bad, but not even close to broken, it’s mostly just a survivability tool that lets you disengage and reengage, nothing like plenty of other ults that just can carry fights all on their own very easily like a cage or whole hog just by melting the enemy tank
"Tank just swap"
Me watching the 4 other roles not swap:
Why swap 4 when 1 would do the same thing?
most of the time when someone tells me to swap off doom is usually the player playing the wrong hero with our comp / into the enemy comp.
@@Muskotronbecause that 1 is having a way more value than the other 4
@@GetQuakedOnyou play doom in every game in every match no matter your comp. And playing all dive, all poke, etc is never necessary nor is it the most efficient way to build a lineup
@@JayFox128it's not the most efficient but if they clearly see their team diving and it's working, how're you gonna complain when YOU are the problem and why your team is struggling more than they should be
There’s no way their bap was tryna say doom ult is busted. It does a solid 15 dmg if you are an inch outside of the middle circle and if you miss empowered punch you’re probably gonna be in a bad position. It’s a utility ult that scales with skill
The inner circle has about the same radius as the level of honour of a sombra player as well making it even worse
The thing that kills me the most is he’s playing mother fucking bap….. he has no right speaking about broken stuff when his character is all roles in one💀
@@mohammadalhusaini810 god immortal field is so annoying as doom even if I can punch them out, my attacks already do bad damage, why negate my chances at kills 😔
But It low key IS broken tho and for all the reasons he mentioned. You’re invincible while ulting, you heal, get cooldowns back faster, free empowered punch PLUS all the overhealth generated from hitting people and it literally can’t be canceled bc it’s frame 1 escape option.
It’s just very feast or famine
They also buffed it so the minimum damage it can do is 50. Not 15. And saying “oh but you can miss your punch tho” is so random. 😂
@@brycenb2994 yeah and your a literal sitting duck while you land susceptible to sleep, hook, hack, flashbang, rock, javelin and enemy doom punch but yeah very broken am i right??
You arent a Doom main if youve not only experienced this...but also proved them wrong.
Gotta prove em wrong
😤 you already know!
happens to ball mains as well.
Well, there are doom mains that go 0 and 5 because they keep dying in the first 10 seconds of any engagement.
I thought Doom was completely unviable. I practiced in QP until I figured out how to properly use his techs and strategy. My third game in comp we were doing very well and when we swapped to defense one of my DPS refused to continue playing until I swapped because he said he was carrying. When he said this He had about 20 kills and I had 18. The game ended after he stopped playing and I had 37-6
It annoys me when I pick a tank hero and the other team has a few counters to that hero, and my team flames me for staying on that character. Why is it always the tanks that have to switch? A few good dps and support hero switches can negate the counters and improve the team comp. Especially the stubborn supports who refuse to accommodate the rest of the team.
Right? People always expect the tank to play around them when the rest of the team can try picking a comp that compliments the tank pick as well.
even if u carry as doom, it's always the support or dps who happens to be performing the worst in the game and is the one asking you to switch, like with what right you ask me to switch lmfao, they always saying shit like, "No space, we can't walk, no tank gg", and when you watch the replay, it was them who were dying because of their own mistakes
The reason is because tank is extremely important to the team, theres only one tank and its the strongest hero on the field. If you get hard counter swapped, your teammates swapping doesnt just cancel it out. Youre still going to get perma hacked by that sombra. This is coming from a tank main.
@@loganbivins2438 the whole team swapping to accommodate a good comp is way more impactful than some tank counters. A tank can realistically outplay the counters, and a good team comp can back them up
@@loganbivins2438 Did you watch this video dude? It invalidates your argument.
Imagine telling quake to get off doom
That just showcases the arrogance of the average Ow2 Player.
@@KrowleyPineapples777 ye but when you can back it up like he does nobody has any issues with it unlike the average genji player
@@KrowleyPineapples777 nah fam he's washed up
@@morgangrisby8107 😂 Good one. Even if he were. He got washed up when it mattered the least in ow. Now everyones washed up. Games a prime example of terrible management and balancing.
GetOiledUppedOn
GetOiledUpOn
Telling them to play another character is the same argument that they were making, only difference is you didn’t complain and blame others lol. Respect
theres already 3 chars playing dive vs not, so its different in that aspect too
Imagine telling a top 3 doom player to get off their best character
"i take it back btw" - good man. respect.
telling quake to swap to something like sigma is like caging a wild animal
such a satisfying feeling of when someone tells u to switch off doom, u dont and proceed to shit on the whole enemy team the whole game, and then all the of sudden the people who told u to switch are all quiet LMAO
Hog - Sombra is the most obnoxious anti-doom combo in the game, fml I see it all the time
Sombra is the only character that keeps me from becoming a doom one trick because i value my sanity…..genuinely baffles me how they see this character’s gameplay and say “yeah thats fun and balanced” at least you can play around hog and orisa
Eh, I don't really think Doom can play around Hog. If you leave him alone to focus on backline, then he kills your team since his oneshot is so easy and consistent. If you face him directly you die because of your pitiful health and hook going right through block.
@@tau-5794Actually is very doable to play against Hog, just be aggro when he has no hook and stay out of LOS when he has it and try to punch him whenever he hooks a teammate.
@@mohammadalhusaini810 I usually play Sombra whenever I queue for DPS 🌚 fellow Doom players should not waste their cooldowns~
@eauscriptos I think it's map dependant (unless you're a doom god like quaked), it's super easy to play around hog on Watchpoint Gibraltar, not so much on like, Rialto or something
Sometimes tho, people will swap just to counter you, even though they're not good at the characters. Consistent Counter swappers never fully master 1 champ, and it's obvious
“We have no tank ):” saying that while your 1v4ing the enemy and your team can’t kill a diving Winston by themselves
So THAT'S why I'm hardstuck in silver.
I'm only partially joking.
The entire glide over the wall at the end, was sickkkkkk!
Never seen you before, but I'm glad this was recommended!
Only thought zbra was a doom main, but I'm glad to see another!
Looking forward to seeing more of you bro
love how that kid said ''we have no tank :/'' then after you won he said you're cracked lmao
Theres no feeling better than….bumping music and carrying your team with Doom. IYKYK👊🏾
5:14 that hook dodge was aura
My team:
"We don't have a tank"
Their team:
"Your tank carries you"
Average doom EXP lool
quake when he's a large body of water: getlakedon (LOL)
From "we have no tank" to "doom op"
Imagine bringing stagnant supports to heal a dive comp, and then blame the tank for not surviving.
"Yeah why should we adjust to the team comp, the tank should change"
Classic Overwatch 2 experience.
"Doomfist has no counters"
Sombra: "Hold my beer"
With a competent healer and a soldier76 that can shoot that’s a counter
Everytime i watch a Quake video I'm reminded of how much I love doom
Illari Brig is not a support combo I want on my team
6:24 Bap player says that 💀💀💀
bro your doom is so smooth. Like I am learning out doom and my doom looks like spazzing out. Yours is so so clean. Like there are some things that you do with doom that I didn't even know one can do.
getting flamed by team mates in voice is always a good sign. I get scared when we are losing and my team says nothing.
I’m a doom main and some guy called me dontgetquakedon
1:25 We have no tank? but the healing is absolute dog water(899) ☠️ and the dps pushing (897)☠️
Sometimes i get flamed playing into ONE counter.
GetPeepeepoopoodOn
1:36 LMAO perfect
“the only one that can defeat me is myself” kinda quotes go hard
When you pacing around the spawn room mindlessly yk it's been one of those games
Its funny how spot on ur support ranking is. My main duo used to otp Doom and we peaked with Mercyfist in OW 1. Nowadays with tank doom the combo kinda fell off but its still decent. Also had some good games with Weaver + Doom on Maps like Busan Downtown where highground goes crazy, probably a worthwhile addition to the list :D
Why cant i get these kind of dooms in my game 😭 the only ones i get are the one that jumps right in middle of team while everyone is across map
I've gotten a good doom like 5 times in the entirety of me playing ow2. Most are mid or awful. Whenever I have a good one I remember it because we roll the other team.
classic supports, blame the Tank, and demand them to swap while they themselves don't swap
Don't forget the final steps, get carried anyway and be all "thanks daddy" at the end
getjizzedon always carrying, such a inspirint person
Brig during the second round went crazy as well
Props to you. I’m a Sigma main on console. During the DVA meta I was asked to swap 20-30 times a season. But, Sigma can deny DVA so much value. I ended up with a 65 winrate the past two seasons
Bro landing on Cassidy then slamming away blocking only to empower punch him into the wall is genius.
LITERALLY the tracer always gets picked by the cas at the beginning of EVERY fight 😂
1:36 😂😂😂
the real doom counters are flying enemies, imagine playing into dva pharah echo juno mercy
Atleast he apologized ppl in my games have such big egos they can't apologize
Bro was listening to polo, von, and tee ofc he’s popping off
This guy is an inspiration
6:22 “doom ult lowkey broken” dumbest shit I’ve heard in my life lmao
Maybe not in damage but it does do 50 minimum and gives your punch and slam back and 300hp so you can slam punch block punch ult punch block punch slam out
Dive comp is nuts, i rly enjoy it by watching on it 😮
Ngl I hate getting a full dive team and then the last support always locks in illari
being a top doom player is one thing but a lot of doomfist mains end up swapping towards the end of the match after getting countered and not adjusting their play style
Enemy team really thought going mercy bap against dive was a good idea smh
Just remember counterswappers are flat earthers
always a good time when the sombra switches to pharah lmao
Dude said doom ult is broken 🤣🤣🤣
GetNumbanidOn
They switched and you instantly won
I had several talks on my channel about swapping, it's just baffling. Whenever you ask people how they know that switching is important, they just can't tell you. It's all from feelings, habit, and social brainwashing. They "just know". "Nothing else is possible". The same answers a cult member would give.
The Genji and Tracer were handy, unlike the Brig and Illari.
I’ve been subbed for a while and seeing him listen to king Von made me respect him a Little more 😂
So many players think characters existing is the same as being countered. Countering is as much about out playing the opponent as it is choosing the right heroes. Especially in low ranks.
I wonder how strong doom would be if all his bugs were fixed tomorrow lol
That cass spawn swap so good lol
The sole reason i learned doom was to be free of enemy dps and supps swapping to ruin my best heroes. "Whatever the meta is doom players make it work" that's the way i thought and i still do.
1:38 lmaooo
that thumbnail has me crying😭
this whole video has me LOL🤣🤣
3:26 you know, sometimes i really do love this game just cause of small shit like this if you really pay attention to it
When my team asking to switch Doom I'm starting to carry them right into the bronze elo
Wait... You dont do the long punch but with short charge where you hold ctrl and release 0.1 sec before you release charge??
when Dr.Doom comes to Rivals you need to make a montage bro it would be peak.
Seems like dooms mobility is akin to TFC bunny hoping. It shouldn’t be removed but top speed could be limited? His primary fire is a slow shot gun like burst fire, but it can land “head shots” at quite the distance, should that be nerfed?
I hate when people tell others to switch its crazy. You're one of the best doomfist players in the world and they want you to swap.
No way they tried to justify getting their ass beat by saying doom is broken 😭
bros complaining about doom ult i must be in the fucking twilight zone
Would old mei be a doom fist counter or would the freeze on you take too long to activate.
40 - 4 is crazy
Grass, grass is Quake’s counter
its always supports too like why go ilarrri and brig youre basically throwing
Mf doom doom skin would go so hard
I needed this today
I play doom a lot and I was curious. How are you cancelling the slam ability without activating other cooldowns? Is that a feature that I just never knew about?? Do I tap the slam again?? Or is it just left clicking??
You hit the button again
This reminds me of playing Monkey into a Reaper or Bastion. Those only counter BAD monkeys. If you're running Monkey on a dive map, Reaper does NOT counter AT ALL
Like, all you do is just jump away
In conclusion. Widow needs nerfs
Genji*
If you are good enough on the character you play counters matter less if you can just afept to them
Is venture a good dive character? I play doom and venture because honestly i love dive
I hate have a doomfist tank. They will be like across the map cosplaying sombra while we are getting ran down by orisa or Ava 😅
Am I being stalked by the government or something the day after I install overwatch I suddenly see like 5 overwatch vids on my main page
how many doom bugs are there? and what are they ?
They gotta buff Doom and Ball tbh I never see people play them
OK it's Diablo for faster queue they didn't use my trig
I'm a Zbra watcher. I'm now a quake watcher too!
Played on this guys team a few times . Hard carry
Can I get the image link for the MF DOOM mask overlay that u have on please?
i dont see how tank is the issue when tracer genji die at the start of the fight and dude locks in illari despite the 3 dive heroes. the other sup prly felt the need to peel illari ig?
Congrats on the 100k on twitch
The only reason your playstyle works is because you posture lile a threat even when you arent charged. And in thay case doom is rather useless. So essentially you pop off because of an incorrect threat analysis from the enemy mixed with a desire to kill you because of ego