Thanks for the honest coverage on this - first review so far to talk about the fan issues. Not liking the noise aspect and shooting themselves in the foot by not being safe/compatible with MagMod.
Thanks for the video! It's great that you show them going to the limit. I have a question, I'm from Brazil and I intend to buy my first AD200 Pro and I wanted to know if you suggest starting with the AD200 Pro II or if the AD200 Pro meets all my needs. I intend to use it for outdoor photo shoots and in the studio eventually.
I have been running around with the AD300 3 light kit, with a bunch of extras and have lately been feeling like i might want to go a little more power like the AD200. I am hoping there will be a new AD100 and AD300 soon so I don't impulse buy this light. I also travel with an AD600 and the head extention cable for when I need power. Maybe I wait until the new year before upgrading the small kit but the new 600 with another extension is probably in my future.
Definitely expecting an AD300 Pro II within the next few months. They’re revamping how their systems all work and that requires this refresh for all of them.
This little fan moves Very little air. I wouldn’t be too worried about that. It’s more the magmod crowd that will have a really bad time with this one.
Really good video. I would love to know what would happen with the head extension. Would the limits be the same, or because the head is away from the body, it would allow for a few more shots?
The Mk II has "Proportional" modelling light - that makes it really pro and appealing. Question is how much light it can give, proportionally. Would you be able to compare the exposure time needed for correct exposure with modelling light only, given the aperture and ISO got set for proper flash exposure? When set to proportional, and e.g. full or half power. The differences with the Mk I seem small, except the new speedlight head and better temperature management. The Mk II is a tiny bit faster in giving full power - other than that it's the same. To me, the "proportionality" of the modelling light is the most interesting.
Absolutely would not put a Magmod on this head. Near 100% chance you would permanently damage it and met it down at some point, as it relies heavily on the fan aspirating.
Seems unlikely, but will test that in my full review. The “increase in power” is essentially that you can use it at a slightly higher level without risk of thermal throttling.
Brighter than I thought. At 3 feet the 200 Pro measured 204 Lux While the Pro ii measured at 3507 Lux 😂 Pro ii is much more focused, though. So it has both more power and less diffused to make it seem even more powerful.
The original used a counter to determine when to go into overheat protection mode. Does the Pro II use a counter or does it actually measure the heat level? With the original, I will turn my 200s off and back on right before an important event (cake cutting, first dance, etc) just to make sure that the counter is reset. I've never had an issue with actually overheating my flashes. So I'm wondering if the Pro II uses a counter that can be reset by powering off and back on? Or does it really take into account the temperature of the head? Obviously I'd never want to burn the head out... but sometimes there are big gaps in photographic moments at a wedding where simply counting the number of flashes seems to be a handicap of the original. Anyway, just curious if they changed how it decides when to kick in overheat protection.
I was wondering about this too.... counter is important, as you can switch device off, then back on quickly if you NEED it to fire for an important shot. I continually do this with the speedlights when I am outdoors and running them at high power so I dont get throttling. Yes I bubble my fresnel, but getting the shot is more important.
Letzt say you need to set up a flash for a wedding stationary and you need to make more than 200 flashes in 10 Minutes. This would be a very big wedding , wouldn’t it? 1. I would rent more ad 200 pro to not get the thermal problem. 2. for this set up you could use a fan to cool the ad 200 pro. So after 4 years of working with these speedlights I never came near the overheating. Maybe you need to use lenses with a wider aperture? I can not recall a situation where I had to push the ad 200 that hard. Maybe someone can enlighten me 😊
Depends on the size and shape of the venue and also your photographic style. Yes, more flashes could be an answer, but sometimes that’s difficult to implement or find places for. And many don’t like to just shoot totally wide open all the time. Sometimes in dance/party shots it’s nice to use more depth of field to be able to see more of the action. Sometimes I’ll even shoot dark dance hall photos at f/9 so I can get cool sunstars from my flashes and the DJ lights ;)
@@WesPerry Hi Wes, you are right with that. But if you take picture of a dance and you want to elevate the over all look of the scene, I would suggest to add some speed lights around the venue and sync them all. Then you don't need to overheat the one you are working with. And the other way around is to pump up the iso and make a correction of the images later. Your work is impressive. I like your content a lot. cheers Peter
I was wondering, but didn’t want to have to rig up the battery intercept setup again haha Probably not a significant amount. Operating a flash at high output takes a Lot of power. Running a tiny fan doesn’t 🤷🏻♂️
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Thanks for the honest coverage on this - first review so far to talk about the fan issues. Not liking the noise aspect and shooting themselves in the foot by not being safe/compatible with MagMod.
Thanks for the video! It's great that you show them going to the limit. I have a question, I'm from Brazil and I intend to buy my first AD200 Pro and I wanted to know if you suggest starting with the AD200 Pro II or if the AD200 Pro meets all my needs. I intend to use it for outdoor photo shoots and in the studio eventually.
@@felipesantis2238 given that they’re the same price in most regions, it makes sense to me to just go with the pro ii
I have been running around with the AD300 3 light kit, with a bunch of extras and have lately been feeling like i might want to go a little more power like the AD200. I am hoping there will be a new AD100 and AD300 soon so I don't impulse buy this light. I also travel with an AD600 and the head extention cable for when I need power. Maybe I wait until the new year before upgrading the small kit but the new 600 with another extension is probably in my future.
Definitely expecting an AD300 Pro II within the next few months. They’re revamping how their systems all work and that requires this refresh for all of them.
Goes down an extra stop in power as well.....??.....I could check, but maybe worth a mention in final review. Thanks for what you have done thus far.
It does yeah. Beyond the scope of this video which is about pushing it as hard as it can go lol
Can't wait for your full review. I'm set to buy 7 of these in Q1 2025 for two 3-light school portrait setups :)
SEVEN??!?!
Amazing. Haha
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I wonder how being stuffed in a soft box will affect the fan/heat situation? I imagine that fan would be humming circulating warn air in the box.
This little fan moves Very little air. I wouldn’t be too worried about that. It’s more the magmod crowd that will have a really bad time with this one.
Great Video
Really good video. I would love to know what would happen with the head extension. Would the limits be the same, or because the head is away from the body, it would allow for a few more shots?
I suspect it would roll back to the old setting (as it lacks the extra pins to communicate with the fan). Will have to test this.
Sorry if this was covered in the video and I didn't hear it. Does the bare bulb head on the new flash have a fan as well? Awesome video by the way!
I didn't mention it at the time, but there is indeed no fan there.
@@WesPerry thanks for the quick reply, that's great to hear as a silent option is needed for most wedding pros
Will the H200R work on new AD200II?
The Mk II has "Proportional" modelling light - that makes it really pro and appealing. Question is how much light it can give, proportionally. Would you be able to compare the exposure time needed for correct exposure with modelling light only, given the aperture and ISO got set for proper flash exposure? When set to proportional, and e.g. full or half power.
The differences with the Mk I seem small, except the new speedlight head and better temperature management.
The Mk II is a tiny bit faster in giving full power - other than that it's the same.
To me, the "proportionality" of the modelling light is the most interesting.
Sir Wes, the Godox AD200 Pro II Perfectly Fit to Godox R200?
Интересно было бы сравнить с AD300
So, due to the fan on the head MagMod accessory's would be a no go?
Absolutely would not put a Magmod on this head. Near 100% chance you would permanently damage it and met it down at some point, as it relies heavily on the fan aspirating.
Thanks for confirming that. I use my AD200s with magmod adapter permanently attached
@@WesPerry do you happen to know if MagMod will fit the round head kit? The round head doesn't suffer the same issue or do you happen to know?
the vidoe is was waiting for, thank you
The comment I was waiting for, thank you
Seems the EC200 extension cable (and the AD-B2?) is not compatible with the II version.
Hopefully they'll come up with an updated one, but that's quite unfortunate, as those extensions aren't exactly cheap.
I would love to know if there is an improvement in power output with the new flash.
Seems unlikely, but will test that in my full review.
The “increase in power” is essentially that you can use it at a slightly higher level without risk of thermal throttling.
How much brighter is the modeling light on the new Fresnel head compared to the old version?
Brighter than I thought. At 3 feet the 200 Pro measured 204 Lux
While the Pro ii measured at 3507 Lux 😂
Pro ii is much more focused, though. So it has both more power and less diffused to make it seem even more powerful.
The original used a counter to determine when to go into overheat protection mode. Does the Pro II use a counter or does it actually measure the heat level?
With the original, I will turn my 200s off and back on right before an important event (cake cutting, first dance, etc) just to make sure that the counter is reset. I've never had an issue with actually overheating my flashes. So I'm wondering if the Pro II uses a counter that can be reset by powering off and back on? Or does it really take into account the temperature of the head? Obviously I'd never want to burn the head out... but sometimes there are big gaps in photographic moments at a wedding where simply counting the number of flashes seems to be a handicap of the original. Anyway, just curious if they changed how it decides when to kick in overheat protection.
It still uses a counter for the overall speed, but I’m uncertain whether the new fan is thermal or counter based. Will be testing that.
(The counter resets on a rolling ten mins, so any big breaks Should get you back to square one)
I was wondering about this too.... counter is important, as you can switch device off, then back on quickly if you NEED it to fire for an important shot. I continually do this with the speedlights when I am outdoors and running them at high power so I dont get throttling. Yes I bubble my fresnel, but getting the shot is more important.
Classic cat bomb. Love it.
They’re always lurking around here somewhere 😏
Letzt say you need to set up a flash for a wedding stationary and you need to make more than 200 flashes in 10 Minutes. This would be a very big wedding , wouldn’t it? 1. I would rent more ad 200 pro to not get the thermal problem. 2. for this set up you could use a fan to cool the ad 200 pro. So after 4 years of working with these speedlights I never came near the overheating. Maybe you need to use lenses with a wider aperture? I can not recall a situation where I had to push the ad 200 that hard. Maybe someone can enlighten me 😊
Depends on the size and shape of the venue and also your photographic style. Yes, more flashes could be an answer, but sometimes that’s difficult to implement or find places for.
And many don’t like to just shoot totally wide open all the time. Sometimes in dance/party shots it’s nice to use more depth of field to be able to see more of the action. Sometimes I’ll even shoot dark dance hall photos at f/9 so I can get cool sunstars from my flashes and the DJ lights ;)
@@WesPerry Hi Wes, you are right with that. But if you take picture of a dance and you want to elevate the over all look of the scene, I would suggest to add some speed lights around the venue and sync them all. Then you don't need to overheat the one you are working with. And the other way around is to pump up the iso and make a correction of the images later. Your work is impressive. I like your content a lot. cheers Peter
Yeah I generally use 3-5 strobes around the room, depending on the size and shape of things.
I wonder how much faster the battery will drain with that fan running.
I was wondering, but didn’t want to have to rig up the battery intercept setup again haha
Probably not a significant amount. Operating a flash at high output takes a Lot of power. Running a tiny fan doesn’t 🤷🏻♂️
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It was about 27F outside when I was filming this. Seemed warm enough inside to me! Haha
brother you need to stop with these fake thumbnails, it worked one time but now you are milking a fixed issue since 2021
Were you tricked by the fire?
if you need to be quiet, put the old head on it.
Yeah, for sure
And now I have an extra old head because I got one of my AD200’s soaked last week and it’s toast 🤦🏻♂️😂