I own Ford stock and have been buying Fords since 1995 but I gotta say..the massive amount of recalls and constant price increases have me questioning my loyalty and the worst part is that the company doesn't seem to care.
Same here. CEO making a lot of promises , their current lineup is good enough problem is production. We have a maverick hybrid on order for my father and an F350 for my self. Hybrid maverick may not materialize this year. Production hurdles do seem to be an industry wide issue so it's not ford specific. Overall I'm still positive on Ford since they're making desirable vehicles.
They are all like that today it seems. I drive GMC and a friend of mine bought a brand new GMC 2500 and his rear end went out, it is still sitting at the dealership waiting to be repaired 9 months later. He finally said eff it and went and bought him a Ford SD. At least he is back at work. I am ready to trade my GMC 2500 but it runs perfectly with 96000 miles on it but dang with all the troubles as you said with the new ones don't know if I want to trade or not. I love both HD trucks and would own either for my work. Not RAM tho.
Same here, lately Ford has been pushing my loyalty to the brink of 🖕🏾 Ford I'm out. I've been loyal for the past 30yrs, but like another comment said they really don't care.
There is a BIG difference between the F450 and F350 Dually. TC customs saying to buy a F350 dually and then get the bigger wheels through them, but that's not what sets the 2 trucks apart. F450s have huge front and rear brakes, much larger than the 350 Dually(which in fact has the same size brakes as a 350 single. Second, one of the things I love about my 19 F450 is the wide track front axle that gives my truck the turning radius of an F150. You get a 350 Dually and you won't have those advantages.
Yeah, anyone can throw aftermarket parts on a stripped Super Duty, but who wants a Frankenstein unit with warranty issues from six different MFG’s along with the questionable labor to replace those failed items? Plus, the probability of Ford denying warranty claims due to said aftermarket modifications. Resale value, or lack thereof, of a Frankie unit is another factor as well as a higher initial cost, which doubles the losses by going the Frankie route. When I invest close to $100K for a factory ordered unit, (as I have done with vehicles, boats and motorhome’s for decades) I don’t mind waiting for exactly what I want. Not to mention, a much better negotiated deal in the first place. Patience truly is a virtue. Let the kids go for the instant gratification route.
You are absolutely correct on turning radius. I currently drive 2020 DRW F350 and turning radius is really bad. You need the 1/2 of the freeway to make the u-turn. I currently have F450 on order and waiting.
I might as well just cancel my order and get a Chevy...too bad, i have relatives that actually build the super duty......mismanagement by Ford...other manufacturers aren't having nearly the supply Ford is...
So your telling me ford can't find another brand 225/70/19.5? The Continental tires they use are crap as it is. sounds like to me Ford needs to call Michelin up and put a decent set on the 450's from the beginning.
Failed to mention f450s don’t have that good of payload since their GVWR is the same as a F350 so you are somewhat limited to what size RV or load you can haul not by capability but by legality.
Yes, TC customs is just like the factory, except it’s missing the one major component that makes a Tremor a Tremor…the front Torsen Limited Slip Diff! Otherwise, don’t bother getting a tremor! Lol
There are two major components that differentiate a Super Duty with the Tremor Package compared to a standard Super Duty. You forgot about the "Rock Crawl" drive mode that comes with the Tremor Package. The Rock Crawl drive mode is not available on any standard Super Duty. EDIT: Does the Dana 60 front differential actually contain an actual Torsen traction device worm gears...or...a standard Limited Slip with clutches that wear out after X or Y number of miles? Nobody seems to know with 100 percent certainty. Detroit TrueTrac uses helical gears. Both the Torsen and Detroit TrueTrac are far superior to the traditional Limited Slip with clutches.
Ford! You're killing me! I'm planning on ordering a '24 F350 Platinum Tremor. This video just shot down almost my whole build sheet. Problem with the Tremor is its more than the suspension, wheels, and tires. If it were just a software update later I'd go that route. 7.3 with supercharger replaces a 6.7 HO? I appreciate what you are doing trying to help us get our trucks sooner but in the end we are agreeing to buy a $85k+ truck that isn't exactly what we want. (Frustration is not aimed at the messenger)
You will love the truck. I have a 2022 F450 Limited I took delivery of this past November. I lucked out, it has all the options and all of them work very well. Once again, you will love the truck and the wate is worth it. I pull a 38 foot fifth wheel camper and this truck handles it like a dream.
@@skoffco Yes, this is going to be my last truck and I want the best available. I will also keep it for many years to come with extend warranty along with maintenance svcs. I am likely to buy 10 year 175k mile for both when I get my truck delivered. My guess is around Sept 2023. Only time will tell for sure. Thank you for sharing and enjoy your F450 Silver Limited. :)
Well I'm not paying their overinflated prices anyway. I'll wait for a year or so until they have so much overstock they can't move and then I'll buy at a reasonable price.
I'm glad I bought an F250 in 2019. Looked at about 20 different F250s on the lot and found exactly what i was looking for. Buying an F250 right now seems like it would be a real asswhip.
It's seems like your videos are truly just adds for your custom after market work. It's too bad you've gone to that I enjoyed the info and insight to what's going on throughout the Ford lineup. NOT interested in your TC customs. Just my .02 cents
But can you order the different Packages & delete the options, holding the build back? How can the Dealerships get the parts needed, but the Assembly Plant can't?
The Tremor package has the locking rear diff and the torsen style front differential, how is TC Custom addressing that? The Tremor Package in a 7.3 XL with a few other options is a beast, but 10% Tremor packages is a sad deal breaker.
Hate to throw this out there, but I ordered my 2024 GMC AT4 3500 in late January with, power running boards, Diesel, Bedliner, Sunroof, Big Screen and a constrained color option, just about everything Ford has constrained and it is scheduled for mid April production. I don't want to get into the Ford vs GM debate, let's all be real, Ford, RAM and GM all build awesome HD trucks that will do the work. What I can't figure out is why GM can build what you want but Ford is still struggling with constraints. Ford needs to get hold of their suppliers or make some changes, brand loyalty will only take you so far. Town and Country will be okay, but the small dealers are going to be trampled on again.
He said as of this week… That doesn’t account for the weeks to come. It’s a known fact that Ford is start with work truck trim levels and then going up from there. I feel like this is just a misleading video to promote TC.
The problem with adding aftermarket parts by the dealer, is that it is NOT covered by FORD. Meaning if you MOVE or Travel and have what would otherwise be warranty related issues, it will NOT be covered by other Ford dealerships. This happened to me on my Bronco Sport when I had my dealer install the 2” lift. I was traveling and I had an issue. FORD would not cover the warranty. So be careful about adding aftermarket parts, some will even void the warranty. If it’s possible to get it from FORD do so for warranty reasons. Especially if you will end up moving, or do a lot of traveling.
@@MisterMikeTexas possible, but if they go to flat rate pricing they will screwed, how will they do trade ins? That will screw that up. How will they do test drives? What about warranty service? They made the Bronco with intentions of 3rd party aftermarket support of extras. I doubt they will go that route as well. Because if I can’t order with certain things done from the factory with factory warranty then I don’t want that option. Some options are best installed from factory.
@@garyzimmerman8679 I didn't say it was necessarily smart of Ford to fire its dealer network, and I want to keep the dealers too. Ford should police them though, and keep them from deceiving and exploiting their customers.
I actually called Ford corporate and told them about this video and they said they are well aware of the misinformation that Town and Country Ford is putting out as well as other dealers in an effort to sell the 2022 super duties that they may have in stock or to get people to purchase a 2023 off their lot instead of ordering it for fear of it not being produced. I ordered a 2023 F350 Lariat Tremor with the High Output diesel and 5th wheel package and the sport appearance package in February and Ford confirmed they have my order and it will be built as will ALL the special orders that they accepted. So it appears you are using scare tactics to move inventory. This is just ANOTHER reason I hope Ford is able to sell directly to customers like Tesla does. I know the lobbying history of dealers and politicians and the history of Ford corporate and dealers however since all the price gouging and dealers stealing, YES stealing money from consumers things will be changing……and NOT soon enough !
So basically y’all went from an all out Ford channel to a TC Customs ad channel. Why not make a separate TC Customs You Tube Channel and go back to the roots of this channel which is the main reason I subscribed a couple of years ago.
This entire video seems very self serving and anti Ford. BTW I have a 23 SD on order myself. These stats that he mentions, are they the “take rates” of options? That is not made clear.
Ford is really turning me into a Ram fan. No F450s and 1% tonneau covers. They made me buy a Ram in 2022 now I'll be buying a Ram 3500...Really Ford. Y'all pissing me off.
Just what the hell has been going on at Ford? They seem to be a total mess in all departments recently and this is rapidly eroding my confidence in this company. Somebody needs to snap out of that nod and get things straight; quality, cost, supply chain back to Henry's original manufacturing model. BTW stop investing so much energy in that EV crap!! This will be the downfall of the auto industry if they continue down this politically correct path. That's where their real problems are originating.
The supply constraints are manufactured. I’m a ford guy but I’m gonna pass on these trucks. Not paying MSRP or higher. Pathetic that a buyer in the US has to order his veh in a way that won’t detract from the build time. I’m out.
Remember when you could buy a 2013 truck in the fall of 2012. now we're in the third month of 2023 and we still don't have the 2023 trucks on the lot. all in the name of jamming new trucks so full of technology that they can't even get to parts to build them.
And people still wanna buy Fords. Mark ups and 2 year waiting list. 2 years and they are still playing the supply chain issue card. Raising prices also and keeping supplies low. Dealers are ready to pounce on the “custom” orders. LoL
Don't understand the part about the "..all new gas engine has an eight percent restriction, meaning that all F250s, 350s are going to able to be built with the 6.8." What does the 8% restriction mean in that context?
@@randalllawkin Toyota does not even have a Class 2 chassis. Back in 2007, I saw a CONCEPT Toyota Hino diesel Class 3 DRW truck at the Western National Stock Show in Denver Colorado.
Toyota only builds Class 1 trucks.....which are not capable of doing any heavy duty truck type work. Therefore, Toyota trucks are completely worthless for my needs.,
That's what I thought talked my lady into buying a yota in 2018 and it's had more recalls and problems than my 13 ford I beat the crappie out of. I'm not believing the hype I think in modern times workers are more worried about there phones then doing there jobs. Quality is hit or miss across all brands.
I tried to order a base model f550 7.3 this year with 204 inch i believe wheel base to build a tow truck out of it and they told me 14 to possibly 2 years till i get it
Your absolutely right. Here in Arcadia Fl is a used 2022 XLT F450 with only 1,069 miles on the clock. It was listed just over $100,000 a few weeks ago. That’s what I payed for my 2022 F450 Limited in November last year.
Ok so are you going to add in a limited slip front diff also in your pseudo tremor ? And the 450 has wide track axle not the same as a 350 axle and different brake package
I just got my 2022 f 250 7.3 Platinum Tremor . Took 12 months.. 1 full year to get it !! Took the dealer advice and deleted several options that I wanted because it would delay my truck 😳😳. Seriously ?? What a joke !! 3 weeks later they we’re taking orders for the 2023’s . Glad I got it BUT ….. it’s already last year model 👀
I was very fortunate. I live out west in the Rocky Mountains, but placed an order October 2021 with Granger Motors, Inc. (Ford and Jeep dealer in Iowa) for 2022 F350 Lariat 7.3L - UP - BAP - Tremor with Warn 12,000 LB winch and ALL but three options (No AS, No ACC and No Power Moonroof).....2% BELOW invoice. Finally received the truck a few days over one year after the order date. It was worth the wait because I got all of the big and little options ordered at a great price!
Or skip the options completely. We get the question all the time “what can I do to speed up my order”. These options are what’s delaying customer builds. And then when we tell them, their next question is “how am I going to live without that option”. This video is just us trying to give people an additional option. Even if they don’t buy it from us.
Thanks for the info and updates! I’m getting a little frustrated at the process of purchasing a new Super Duty F-250. I ordered a 2022 in 2021, it never got built. They reordered as a 2023 in 2022, and still hasn’t been built. It’s a Platinum 6.7L with spray in bed liner and panoramic sunroof. I’m glad I have my 2019 (purchased used cause we needed a truck immediately at the time), but it’s been modded and tuned and didn’t come with a warranty, and was always only a short term solution.
Got it... Buy a Ram instead & get what you need & want..... btw, there's a big difference between the F350 & 450/550 platforms... just swapping wheels & tires isn't gonna cut it if it's actually gonna need to work. Btw, the F450 pickup.. IS NOT the same truck as an F450 chassis cab... the frames are different as well as other key structural items... if you need a work truck... do your research & understand the differences.
Fortunately I'm 6'7" and don't have a bad back with herniated disc's especially in my low back! Being tall you really have to be careful that you don't injure or herniate the L4, L5 or L6. or the S1 or S2 ít's extremely painful.
Not me with my ‘23 Lariat Sport, 6.7 HO, gooseneck prep, 12” productivity screen in production right now. Guess it’s good I didn’t go for the moon roof.
Moonroofs are way overrated.......seldom used and nothing but future high probability of developing problems...tracking, leaks, replacing seals, heats up the cab during hot weather, expensive broken glass, etc. I have had moonroofs in other vehicles...rarely used. I will never order that option again! In the past, virtually impossible to find a Lariat with the Ultimate Package, King Ranch or Platinum in dealer inventory without a Moonroof. All the special orders...lots of guys did not order the Power Moonroof for the reasons listed above. In addition, glad I ordered my 2022 F350 Lariat with the "Carpet Delete" option...mainly because I live in a remote scenic area with mud and snow. The Carpet Delete option was popular on special order Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum trucks...and virtually impossible to find one of those trim levels without carpet on a dealer lot.
What about Job 2 features? I'm waiting to order mine due to wanting a Job 2 build. It just sucks that you're willing to drop $90k+ MSRP on a truck only to be told... too bad.
Just as with Tesla did with the model 3, Musk needed cash so he only built the top of the line models at first, instead by of the $39K models that most people reserved. Other MFG’s have done similar things with hot vehicles. Shouldn’t be a surprise. Jeep did the same thing with the Gladiator. They’ll start producing the base models at some point, like when the excitement wears down some. Unfortunately it’s the nature of the beast. Everybody wants one and they want it now to be part of the “in” crowd. Local dealers have had a steady inventory of the Escape based Sport model and they have had quite a few of the loaded Larger ones show up and become available when the people that ordered them cancelled their sale. Same with the Super Duty’s. Quite a few on the lots in various levels and that includes Tremors. While I was waiting for my Tremor to be serviced at the Quick Land I walked the lot and they had three. Two diesels and a gasser. All Lariats. No added markup. One SoCal dealers ad has Tremors at $1,000 off MSRP and another at $3K off MSRP. Days of the added markup are over. Lots of cancelled orders are on the lots. It’s all about the timing. Right place, right time.
Dumbest restrictions I have ever heard of. Running boards, bed liner, hitche, tonneau cover, tires, interior bits? Can't cite EPA rules. So what is the deal? The engine options were merely penalized. Now, how dare you?
Sooooooooo basically order a work truck and add all the stuff you want🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. Big company like ford can’t get there crap together n make a dam pickup 3 years post dem-panic👎!
As nice as this salesman seems to be remember he is still a car salesman. And that is not what Ford said, Ford said that 10 percent of super duties built will be Tremors and the same for all the other trucks and options. This is why there is a job 1 and job 2 along with cutoff dates for orders once they have reached said number of orders in relation to the total amount of super duties projected to be built. If your order is in than you will get your truck with the options you asked for. Don’t let these sleeze balls rain on your parade or scare you into buying out of inventory or ordering a truck that you really did not want just because it will arrive quicker and then they tell you that their custom shop can “make” you a Tremor like truck. It’s only about what will make them the most money, they are not a friend.
I went in to order an F350 and they told me at least 10 months. Found a GMC Sierra 2022 AT4 on a dealer's lot with no markup. Walked out the door with it. I love Ford trucks, but this is ridiculous...
Why the hell did Ford even offer these options, if they can't produce them. It's bad business if you ask me. I've been a faithful Ford truck owner Ford decades. Guess I'll have to buy a RAM to get want I want and need in a truck
Such a shame they're applying these restrictions. They're more political than practical. Whole automotive industry is on the down turn. They're not making enough trucks for the working class. They're trying to target high end people.
The best way to get a new truck is to go from the ford dealership to the Toyota dealership around the corner and buy a truck. If you need a heavier truck than a tundra you should be at a heavy truck dealer….. go get a freight liner or something. This is a pretty huge pain in the butt to get the privilege of paying 60-100k for a pickup truck!!!
so basically the point of this video was to say how we shouldn't order certain specs when we build our trucks and instead should get yall to install modifications at such an overpriced labor cost
Look, i love Ford's, but what i keep hearing is i can't get what i want factory. This should show Ford that they shouldn't be part of any global supply chain. Control your destiny and build it yourself.
The restrictions don’t add up. They add up to less than 50% for the engine selections (?). Do Toyota and Nissan have restrictions? Guess where more buyers are going?
A lot of these options are kinda pointless. The Tremor package is really niche, the digital gage cluster is stupid, and the moonroof is an absolute joke on a pickup truck
Especially one on an off-road specialty Suer Duty. When I ordered my fully loaded Tremor I left off the roof and added the carpet delete. Dealer said I was crazy for doing that on an upscale fully loaded truck. I told him it’s an off-road truck and more importantly, it’s MY TRUCK. Build it the way I want it. Now, MOST buyers are doing the same thing. Those large glass roof’s don’t do well with the flexing that occurs in off road situations and leaks, rattles and even cracks are not uncommon. But folks wishing they didn’t pay $1,500 for that feature are certainly regretting it. And even funnier, the dealer is stocking Lariat Tremors with the carpet delete! 😂
@@brbabco5546 Exactly Correct...100 percent agree! ONE of the BEST comments I have read in several weeks...maybe a few months! I live out west - Rocky Mountain state.....remote scenic area...mud and snow conditions and ordered the following truck ---------------------------------------------------------> 2022 F350 7.3L Lariat - UP - BAP - Tremor with Warn 12,000 LB winch.....loaded up with ALL big and little options....except No AS, No ACC and No Power Moonroof. Had to wait a year, but ordered from an out of state dealer.....Granger Motors Inc at 2% below invoice. So...I am Very Fortunate....have a truck with awesome build sheet at a great price! A good friend ordered from Granger the same day...almost identical truck...has all of the same options my truck has...but he opted for the SAP instead of BAP.....and he added the missing upgrades. With snow and mud conditions...we get the trucks off-road on uneven terrain...so glad we did not get the Power Moonroofs....but glad we have all of the other goodies...like Power Running Boards, Upfitter Switches, Carpet Delete, Heated Steering Wheels, etc. These Tremor trucks are awesome and perform exceptionally for our needs and uses. These city guys who work at dealers are not that sharp. They order trucks with the options they think all people want. There are plenty of customers who want Lariat, King Ranch and even Platinum ......but no Power Moonroof or Carpet. Read the threads on the Ford Tremor website and other forums.
If somebody needs an F450 and can’t get it due to wheel issues then simply ordering an F350 is NOT a solution, that’s a downgrade and may not be an option
Is it fitted with ford's infamous powershit gearbox like the crappy focus they conned me into buying and then refused to fix it when the gearbox fell apart like all the others.
I have owned several diesel F350 4WD SRW trucks in the past....used the trucks to tow gooseneck horse trailers and flatbeds. Took horses to several states for competitions...3 to 4 weekends every month for 6 months a year for 15 years. Not towing frequently anymore, but still needed a Class 2 (F250) or Class 3 (F350) truck. The diesel engines need to work...need to tow heavy loads. So many guys buy the diesel, yet never USE it much for the intended purpose. All the emission systems on diesels nowadays.....not good for long term ownership...will be expensive. The 7.3L gas engine in my 2022 F350 Lariat Tremor is a beast of an engine. It will tow anything I want to tow...not as efficiently as a diesel...which are great for launching a load from a stop and a bit better for passing at highway speed with a load.
@@brbabco5546 Factor in the extra cost of diesel fuel, def, cost of extra oil for oil changes and added diesel engine maintenance costs and you more than make up for that loss of resale value you claim. The fact is, the vast majority of people don't haul heavy loads everyday or put a few hundred thousand miles on their work trucks, and really don't need a diesel superduty truck. But, hey diesels are cool and you can tell everyone your truck is a diesel.
Should of stopped the 22 builds mid 22 and started building 23s, was simply as that. If ford told thier dealers " hey we are stopping the 22 builds and doing model 23s, most customers will have to pay an additional$1500-5k but your getting a better updated truck". People are paying 75-115k for a Super Duty, most would mind the minimal extra cost as well as dealers not being able to mark them up since our supply problem has been improved from skipping the 22s!
I live in NYC and only bought my mustangs from what was once Sandy Springs Ford in GA. They sold the dealership to one of those ridiculous super companies. Dealing with them after that with my Shelby’s left a bad taste in my mouth. Sandy Springs looked out for their good customers. The new management were awful. Mark ups and other nonsense has me looking for another Ford dealer as well.
October 2021, a friend and I each ordered 2022 F350 Lariat 7.3L - UP - (his SAP) (mine BAP) - Tremor Package with Warn 12,000 LB winch and ALL but three options (No AS, No ACC, and No Power Moonroof). We live in a remote scenic area of the Rocky Mountains.....but ordered the two trucks from Granger Motors Inc (Ford and Jeep dealer in Iowa) at 2% below invoice. Absolutely phenomenal dealer.....awesome...the best!!! Call and ask to speak to Ashleigh. Friend added the LED lights, Tough Bed, Front and Rear Wheel Well Liners (items not included with SAP)...and both trucks had the 5th Wheel / Gooseneck Prep Package. His truck was built in April 2022 and mine in August 2022. Delivery was about 2 months later on each truck. Yeah, I waited a few days over a year, but it was worth it.....and glad I ordered a 2022. One option we like a lot...the Carpet Delete...especially where we live and use the trucks in mud and snow!
I ordered a f350 tremor lariat with all options mentioned here everything but the moonroof. First truck i have ever ordered as there was always plenty of stock before the wuflu. The day order banks opened i was at my dealership with my build so hopefully ill get in on the first wave of lariats. Still no build date but have gotten a few emails from ford. I have seen some guys getting build dates for lariat 7.3 trucks mid march
@@W00lly001 no it’s a 7.3 which is the standard gas engine now I was wondering myself how many engines in each line up they have because the first 2 days the order banks opened had 88000
Cute TC Customs sales pitch. But as you SHOULD know, the Tremor package is more than a lift. Limited front slip, drive modes, water fording vent tubes. Slap a supercharger on the Godzilla? Heck no! Although nice, reason a lot of us are getting the diesel is the power to mpg ratio. I know, I know, "you are worried about getting mpg's when your getting a Super Duty?!". Yes. When your hauling, up grades and long distances, fuel milage IS a factor.
I have a spray in bed liner, Vista panoramic roof and the wheel well covers on my build with the lariat ultimate package with the 7.3. No build date as of yet and if I don't have one by May, I'm taking my deposit back and canceling my order. Interest rates continue to climb and I'm not going to take delivery of a new truck a model year late. I'm seeing plenty of Chevy's and GMC trucks showing up on the lots and they'll do what I need them to do. The Ram is overpriced and the GM trucks have shitty interiors.
This is absurd! Why the hell would you buy a truck based on the specs you can't get!! Substitute this for that, order this but not that and add an aftermarket product bc Ford can't supply it!! Wow!! Ford is going down hill.I got a 2022 F150 Powerboost the 2023 with the same specs is 6K higher. Damn!
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I own Ford stock and have been buying Fords since 1995 but I gotta say..the massive amount of recalls and constant price increases have me questioning my loyalty and the worst part is that the company doesn't seem to care.
Same here. CEO making a lot of promises , their current lineup is good enough problem is production. We have a maverick hybrid on order for my father and an F350 for my self. Hybrid maverick may not materialize this year. Production hurdles do seem to be an industry wide issue so it's not ford specific. Overall I'm still positive on Ford since they're making desirable vehicles.
All the automakers aren’t building heavy duty truck been waiting 4 months for a price and delivery from GM
They are all like that today it seems. I drive GMC and a friend of mine bought a brand new GMC 2500 and his rear end went out, it is still sitting at the dealership waiting to be repaired 9 months later. He finally said eff it and went and bought him a Ford SD. At least he is back at work. I am ready to trade my GMC 2500 but it runs perfectly with 96000 miles on it but dang with all the troubles as you said with the new ones don't know if I want to trade or not. I love both HD trucks and would own either for my work. Not RAM tho.
It hurts! MBA's who can't find their behinds with two hands and a flashlight have obviously taken over this once-great company!
Same here, lately Ford has been pushing my loyalty to the brink of 🖕🏾 Ford I'm out. I've been loyal for the past 30yrs, but like another comment said they really don't care.
There is a BIG difference between the F450 and F350 Dually. TC customs saying to buy a F350 dually and then get the bigger wheels through them, but that's not what sets the 2 trucks apart. F450s have huge front and rear brakes, much larger than the 350 Dually(which in fact has the same size brakes as a 350 single. Second, one of the things I love about my 19 F450 is the wide track front axle that gives my truck the turning radius of an F150. You get a 350 Dually and you won't have those advantages.
Exactly, huge difference!
Yeah, anyone can throw aftermarket parts on a stripped Super Duty, but who wants a Frankenstein unit with warranty issues from six different MFG’s along with the questionable labor to replace those failed items? Plus, the probability of Ford denying warranty claims due to said aftermarket modifications. Resale value, or lack thereof, of a Frankie unit is another factor as well as a higher initial cost, which doubles the losses by going the Frankie route. When I invest close to $100K for a factory ordered unit, (as I have done with vehicles, boats and motorhome’s for decades) I don’t mind waiting for exactly what I want. Not to mention, a much better negotiated deal in the first place. Patience truly is a virtue. Let the kids go for the instant gratification route.
Small. Diff. My 350 turning radius is better because lifted with baha bumper. I do need better brakes but I have 26 in rims with 37s
@@coreymurphy2711 just because you can drive over any obstacles in your way, doesn't mean you have a better turning radius
You are absolutely correct on turning radius. I currently drive 2020 DRW F350 and turning radius is really bad. You need the 1/2 of the freeway to make the u-turn. I currently have F450 on order and waiting.
Ford can’t build anything nowadays seems like
True.
People are waiting 2 years for a Range Rover. The 12 customer orders that were recently stolen from the lot of a Cleveland dealer.
I can't get a heated steering wheel this year even if I order a 110k Raptor R, let alone a 70k Lariat.
Yeah, they are going through a pretty bad quality storm.
10x better than ram or chevy any day
I might as well just cancel my order and get a Chevy...too bad, i have relatives that actually build the super duty......mismanagement by Ford...other manufacturers aren't having nearly the supply Ford is...
23 are ugly, the chevys are extremely ugly. Find a 22, best looking superduty and they are still arriving at dealers.
Why would you want that hideous, unreliable shitvrolet? Such a downgrade…..
Ford dealers want $5K extra for these. F that.
Found the ford fan girls.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 found the crayon eating GM fan girl.
So your telling me ford can't find another brand 225/70/19.5? The Continental tires they use are crap as it is. sounds like to me Ford needs to call Michelin up and put a decent set on the 450's from the beginning.
For the price we pay I agree, continentals are garbage
I thought they used Garbage Goodyears, but they use Crappy Continentals too?
ford does this on purpose to jack up the prices
No doubt!
It’s certainly can seem that way
Spot on! Everyone else can build trucks but Ford still has “supply constraints “
Below msrp if you order, mark ups are over. If you pay over your a sucker
I have a 1% chance of getting a super Duty because I'm poor
I have been driving Ford F350's since 1992. I think its time to switch to Ram.
Do not downgrade from the 450 to a 350 on a tow rig, the wide turn axle is far more valuable than a tire option.
Failed to mention f450s don’t have that good of payload since their GVWR is the same as a F350 so you are somewhat limited to what size RV or load you can haul not by capability but by legality.
@@Back_door_bandit_98The payload is such a minor difference. Most people will never get there. F-450 will tow any RV on the market.
Yes, TC customs is just like the factory, except it’s missing the one major component that makes a Tremor a Tremor…the front Torsen Limited Slip Diff! Otherwise, don’t bother getting a tremor! Lol
There are two major components that differentiate a Super Duty with the Tremor Package compared to a standard Super Duty. You forgot about the "Rock Crawl" drive mode that comes with the Tremor Package. The Rock Crawl drive mode is not available on any standard Super Duty.
EDIT: Does the Dana 60 front differential actually contain an actual Torsen traction device worm gears...or...a standard Limited Slip with clutches that wear out after X or Y number of miles? Nobody seems to know with 100 percent certainty. Detroit TrueTrac uses helical gears. Both the Torsen and Detroit TrueTrac are far superior to the traditional Limited Slip with clutches.
Get a real e lockerfor the front. 1500 and have the best traction available.
Never buy a F-350 dually. Wait for your F-450. It’s not just wheels and tires.
That is exactly what i am doing. F450 Limited.. I am hoping to get it by Dec 25th.
Ford! You're killing me! I'm planning on ordering a '24 F350 Platinum Tremor. This video just shot down almost my whole build sheet. Problem with the Tremor is its more than the suspension, wheels, and tires. If it were just a software update later I'd go that route. 7.3 with supercharger replaces a 6.7 HO? I appreciate what you are doing trying to help us get our trucks sooner but in the end we are agreeing to buy a $85k+ truck that isn't exactly what we want. (Frustration is not aimed at the messenger)
Order early
order and wait. It will come by next X-mas. I am waiting for mine.
You will love the truck. I have a 2022 F450 Limited I took delivery of this past November. I lucked out, it has all the options and all of them work very well. Once again, you will love the truck and the wate is worth it. I pull a 38 foot fifth wheel camper and this truck handles it like a dream.
@@skoffco Yes, this is going to be my last truck and I want the best available. I will also keep it for many years to come with extend warranty along with maintenance svcs. I am likely to buy 10 year 175k mile for both when I get my truck delivered. My guess is around Sept 2023. Only time will tell for sure. Thank you for sharing and enjoy your F450 Silver Limited. :)
Well I'm not paying their overinflated prices anyway. I'll wait for a year or so until they have so much overstock they can't move and then I'll buy at a reasonable price.
Good gravy, good thing I buy most my vehicle's about 5-10 year's old. That sounds like a pain.
I'm glad I bought an F250 in 2019. Looked at about 20 different F250s on the lot and found exactly what i was looking for. Buying an F250 right now seems like it would be a real asswhip.
I have a 2019 F250 6.7 Platinum. 61,000 miles. I love it. I’ve had it 2.5 yrs, no issues. Tons of power.
I was thinking the same thing! I bought a 2019 King Ranch for 75k and a 3% interest rate! Man I am so glad I pulled the trigger when I did!!
Hope you're not promoting coverking seat covers, bought some for my Bronco six months ago already worn out on the side they are junk they don't fit
It's seems like your videos are truly just adds for your custom after market work. It's too bad you've gone to that I enjoyed the info and insight to what's going on throughout the Ford lineup. NOT interested in your TC customs. Just my .02 cents
But can you order the different Packages & delete the options, holding the build back? How can the Dealerships get the parts needed, but the Assembly Plant can't?
The Tremor package has the locking rear diff and the torsen style front differential, how is TC Custom addressing that? The Tremor Package in a 7.3 XL with a few other options is a beast, but 10% Tremor packages is a sad deal breaker.
Hate to throw this out there, but I ordered my 2024 GMC AT4 3500 in late January with, power running boards, Diesel, Bedliner, Sunroof, Big Screen and a constrained color option, just about everything Ford has constrained and it is scheduled for mid April production. I don't want to get into the Ford vs GM debate, let's all be real, Ford, RAM and GM all build awesome HD trucks that will do the work. What I can't figure out is why GM can build what you want but Ford is still struggling with constraints. Ford needs to get hold of their suppliers or make some changes, brand loyalty will only take you so far. Town and Country will be okay, but the small dealers are going to be trampled on again.
I had a ram megacab 3500 custom ordered, and it arrived in 4 months. My buddy ordered a Rubicon gladiator custom built, and he waited 4 months.
He said as of this week… That doesn’t account for the weeks to come. It’s a known fact that Ford is start with work truck trim levels and then going up from there. I feel like this is just a misleading video to promote TC.
The problem with adding aftermarket parts by the dealer, is that it is NOT covered by FORD. Meaning if you MOVE or Travel and have what would otherwise be warranty related issues, it will NOT be covered by other Ford dealerships. This happened to me on my Bronco Sport when I had my dealer install the 2” lift. I was traveling and I had an issue. FORD would not cover the warranty.
So be careful about adding aftermarket parts, some will even void the warranty. If it’s possible to get it from FORD do so for warranty reasons. Especially if you will end up moving, or do a lot of traveling.
I asked about a catch can and was told to wait until my warranty was done.
Maybe this is one reason Ford wants to eliminate dealers and market directly to customers.
@@MisterMikeTexas possible, but if they go to flat rate pricing they will screwed, how will they do trade ins? That will screw that up. How will they do test drives? What about warranty service? They made the Bronco with intentions of 3rd party aftermarket support of extras. I doubt they will go that route as well. Because if I can’t order with certain things done from the factory with factory warranty then I don’t want that option. Some options are best installed from factory.
@@garyzimmerman8679 I didn't say it was necessarily smart of Ford to fire its dealer network, and I want to keep the dealers too. Ford should police them though, and keep them from deceiving and exploiting their customers.
I actually called Ford corporate and told them about this video and they said they are well aware of the misinformation that Town and Country Ford is putting out as well as other dealers in an effort to sell the 2022 super duties that they may have in stock or to get people to purchase a 2023 off their lot instead of ordering it for fear of it not being produced. I ordered a 2023 F350 Lariat Tremor with the High Output diesel and 5th wheel package and the sport appearance package in February and Ford confirmed they have my order and it will be built as will ALL the special orders that they accepted. So it appears you are using scare tactics to move inventory. This is just ANOTHER reason I hope Ford is able to sell directly to customers like Tesla does. I know the lobbying history of dealers and politicians and the history of Ford corporate and dealers however since all the price gouging and dealers stealing, YES stealing money from consumers things will be changing……and NOT soon enough !
So basically y’all went from an all out Ford channel to a TC Customs ad channel. Why not make a separate TC Customs You Tube Channel and go back to the roots of this channel which is the main reason I subscribed a couple of years ago.
This entire video seems very self serving and anti Ford.
BTW I have a 23 SD on order myself.
These stats that he mentions, are they the “take rates” of options?
That is not made clear.
Ford is really turning me into a Ram fan. No F450s and 1% tonneau covers. They made me buy a Ram in 2022 now I'll be buying a Ram 3500...Really Ford. Y'all pissing me off.
Just what the hell has been going on at Ford?
They seem to be a total mess in all departments recently and this is rapidly eroding my confidence in this company. Somebody needs to snap out of that nod and get things straight; quality, cost, supply chain back to Henry's original manufacturing model.
BTW stop investing so much energy in that EV crap!! This will be the downfall of the auto industry if they continue down this politically correct path. That's where their real problems are originating.
The supply constraints are manufactured. I’m a ford guy but I’m gonna pass on these trucks. Not paying MSRP or higher. Pathetic that a buyer in the US has to order his veh in a way that won’t detract from the build time. I’m out.
I'm glad I got my 22
Remember when you could buy a 2013 truck in the fall of 2012. now we're in the third month of 2023 and we still don't have the 2023 trucks on the lot. all in the name of jamming new trucks so full of technology that they can't even get to parts to build them.
And people still wanna buy Fords. Mark ups and 2 year waiting list. 2 years and they are still playing the supply chain issue card. Raising prices also and keeping supplies low. Dealers are ready to pounce on the “custom” orders. LoL
sounds like they do not care about giving people what they want and telling them take it or leave it. customer conditioning. It would seem.
Don't understand the part about the "..all new gas engine has an eight percent restriction, meaning that all F250s, 350s are going to able to be built with the 6.8." What does the 8% restriction mean in that context?
So, the overpriced market and you really cannot get the options you want. Great time to not buy any vehicle if possible.
AGAIN!!!!! never buy a 1st gen of anything…..with a few years. God willing I’m looking to pull the trigger on a 25 or 26 model year
What a joke. All this does is give dealers another excuse to add more to the cost of a truck over M.S.R.P.
I’ve been a loyal Ford owner since 93 but this makes Toyota look better all the time
Toyota has a class 3,4,5 chassis? I would buy one asap!
@@randalllawkin Toyota does not even have a Class 2 chassis. Back in 2007, I saw a CONCEPT Toyota Hino diesel Class 3 DRW truck at the Western National Stock Show in Denver Colorado.
Toyota only builds Class 1 trucks.....which are not capable of doing any heavy duty truck type work. Therefore, Toyota trucks are completely worthless for my needs.,
You Can’t do with aToyota what you can do with a Ford Super Duty. Try pulling a 32,000 lb trailer with a Toyota😂😂😂
That's what I thought talked my lady into buying a yota in 2018 and it's had more recalls and problems than my 13 ford I beat the crappie out of. I'm not believing the hype I think in modern times workers are more worried about there phones then doing there jobs. Quality is hit or miss across all brands.
I tried to order a base model f550 7.3 this year with 204 inch i believe wheel base to build a tow truck out of it and they told me 14 to possibly 2 years till i get it
I like many options you guys offer on lifts and tire packages. My only concern is what if something breaks at later time and you guys are miles away.
Here comes $100k XLTs what a joke.🤦🏻
Your absolutely right. Here in Arcadia Fl is a used 2022 XLT F450 with only 1,069 miles on the clock. It was listed just over $100,000 a few weeks ago. That’s what I payed for my 2022 F450 Limited in November last year.
Front end is ugly AF😑
Who is making all these decisions at ford, is it the government or the factory
You can only get the 6.8 engine in the XL model nothing else.
Ok so are you going to add in a limited slip front diff also in your pseudo tremor ? And the 450 has wide track axle not the same as a 350 axle and different brake package
Where did you find the little mascot in the Khaki's? I think he needs to get back for his 2nd grade graduation.
I just got my 2022 f 250 7.3 Platinum Tremor . Took 12 months.. 1 full year to get it !! Took the dealer advice and deleted several options that I wanted because it would delay my truck 😳😳. Seriously ?? What a joke !! 3 weeks later they we’re taking orders for the 2023’s . Glad I got it BUT ….. it’s already last year model 👀
I was very fortunate. I live out west in the Rocky Mountains, but placed an order October 2021 with Granger Motors, Inc. (Ford and Jeep dealer in Iowa) for 2022 F350 Lariat 7.3L - UP - BAP - Tremor with Warn 12,000 LB winch and ALL but three options (No AS, No ACC and No Power Moonroof).....2% BELOW invoice. Finally received the truck a few days over one year after the order date. It was worth the wait because I got all of the big and little options ordered at a great price!
So funny! cant sell them, so your giving them away!?! No thanks. I want the truck, but apparently I cant get what I want..... Figures.
We are completely sold out of Bronco’s. This is one that a customer backed out of and we decided to give it away instead of selling it.
They’ll make a LOT MORE MONEY by “giving it away” than if they sold it!
To Sum up video don't pay ford for the options. Please pay us.
Or skip the options completely. We get the question all the time “what can I do to speed up my order”. These options are what’s delaying customer builds. And then when we tell them, their next question is “how am I going to live without that option”. This video is just us trying to give people an additional option. Even if they don’t buy it from us.
I don’t understand why suppliers are still having problems with orders
I want a star white metallic 7.3godzilla. F250 What are my odds with that?
"Ford franchise dealers are killing the trust of Ford's consumers." - RUclips channel "Car Questions Answered"
Thanks for the info and updates! I’m getting a little frustrated at the process of purchasing a new Super Duty F-250. I ordered a 2022 in 2021, it never got built. They reordered as a 2023 in 2022, and still hasn’t been built. It’s a Platinum 6.7L with spray in bed liner and panoramic sunroof. I’m glad I have my 2019 (purchased used cause we needed a truck immediately at the time), but it’s been modded and tuned and didn’t come with a warranty, and was always only a short term solution.
Got it... Buy a Ram instead & get what you need & want..... btw, there's a big difference between the F350 & 450/550 platforms... just swapping wheels & tires isn't gonna cut it if it's actually gonna need to work. Btw, the F450 pickup.. IS NOT the same truck as an F450 chassis cab... the frames are different as well as other key structural items... if you need a work truck... do your research & understand the differences.
Fortunately I'm 6'7" and don't have a bad back with herniated disc's especially in my low back! Being tall you really have to be careful that you don't injure or herniate the L4, L5 or L6. or the S1 or S2 ít's extremely painful.
Not me with my ‘23 Lariat Sport, 6.7 HO, gooseneck prep, 12” productivity screen in production right now. Guess it’s good I didn’t go for the moon roof.
Moonroofs are way overrated.......seldom used and nothing but future high probability of developing problems...tracking, leaks, replacing seals, heats up the cab during hot weather, expensive broken glass, etc. I have had moonroofs in other vehicles...rarely used. I will never order that option again! In the past, virtually impossible to find a Lariat with the Ultimate Package, King Ranch or Platinum in dealer inventory without a Moonroof. All the special orders...lots of guys did not order the Power Moonroof for the reasons listed above.
In addition, glad I ordered my 2022 F350 Lariat with the "Carpet Delete" option...mainly because I live in a remote scenic area with mud and snow. The Carpet Delete option was popular on special order Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum trucks...and virtually impossible to find one of those trim levels without carpet on a dealer lot.
What about Job 2 features? I'm waiting to order mine due to wanting a Job 2 build. It just sucks that you're willing to drop $90k+ MSRP on a truck only to be told... too bad.
I was just told that I couldnt even order a base 2023 Bronco at all...I'm starting to think I'll never get a Bronco
Great, I’ve got one in order with the sunroof, spray-in bed liner, and rear wheel well liners…there that goes😢
Just as with Tesla did with the model 3, Musk needed cash so he only built the top of the line models at first, instead by of the $39K models that most people reserved. Other MFG’s have done similar things with hot vehicles. Shouldn’t be a surprise. Jeep did the same thing with the Gladiator. They’ll start producing the base models at some point, like when the excitement wears down some. Unfortunately it’s the nature of the beast. Everybody wants one and they want it now to be part of the “in” crowd. Local dealers have had a steady inventory of the Escape based Sport model and they have had quite a few of the loaded Larger ones show up and become available when the people that ordered them cancelled their sale. Same with the Super Duty’s. Quite a few on the lots in various levels and that includes Tremors. While I was waiting for my Tremor to be serviced at the Quick Land I walked the lot and they had three. Two diesels and a gasser. All Lariats. No added markup. One SoCal dealers ad has Tremors at $1,000 off MSRP and another at $3K off MSRP. Days of the added markup are over. Lots of cancelled orders are on the lots. It’s all about the timing. Right place, right time.
Dumbest restrictions I have ever heard of. Running boards, bed liner, hitche, tonneau cover, tires, interior bits? Can't cite EPA rules. So what is the deal? The engine options were merely penalized. Now, how dare you?
Sooooooooo basically order a work truck and add all the stuff you want🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. Big company like ford can’t get there crap together n make a dam pickup 3 years post dem-panic👎!
As nice as this salesman seems to be remember he is still a car salesman. And that is not what Ford said, Ford said that 10 percent of super duties built will be Tremors and the same for all the other trucks and options. This is why there is a job 1 and job 2 along with cutoff dates for orders once they have reached said number of orders in relation to the total amount of super duties projected to be built. If your order is in than you will get your truck with the options you asked for. Don’t let these sleeze balls rain on your parade or scare you into buying out of inventory or ordering a truck that you really did not want just because it will arrive quicker and then they tell you that their custom shop can “make” you a Tremor like truck. It’s only about what will make them the most money, they are not a friend.
I went in to order an F350 and they told me at least 10 months. Found a GMC Sierra 2022 AT4 on a dealer's lot with no markup. Walked out the door with it. I love Ford trucks, but this is ridiculous...
Why the hell did Ford even offer these options, if they can't produce them. It's bad business if you ask me. I've been a faithful Ford truck owner Ford decades. Guess I'll have to buy a RAM to get want I want and need in a truck
Such a shame they're applying these restrictions. They're more political than practical.
Whole automotive industry is on the down turn. They're not making enough trucks for the working class. They're trying to target high end people.
The best way to get a new truck is to go from the ford dealership to the Toyota dealership around the corner and buy a truck. If you need a heavier truck than a tundra you should be at a heavy truck dealer….. go get a freight liner or something. This is a pretty huge pain in the butt to get the privilege of paying 60-100k for a pickup truck!!!
so basically the point of this video was to say how we shouldn't order certain specs when we build our trucks and instead should get yall to install modifications at such an overpriced labor cost
Look, i love Ford's, but what i keep hearing is i can't get what i want factory. This should show Ford that they shouldn't be part of any global supply chain. Control your destiny and build it yourself.
The restrictions don’t add up. They add up to less than 50% for the engine selections (?). Do Toyota and Nissan have restrictions? Guess where more buyers are going?
Ford has certainly killed the looks of the new 2023 Super Duty. Guess I will have to wait till something that looks half way decent appears again.
Thanks for the insight. My 23 SD order has already been delayed 2 months. Good luck to everyone who ordered one...
A lot of these options are kinda pointless. The Tremor package is really niche, the digital gage cluster is stupid, and the moonroof is an absolute joke on a pickup truck
Especially one on an off-road specialty Suer Duty. When I ordered my fully loaded Tremor I left off the roof and added the carpet delete. Dealer said I was crazy for doing that on an upscale fully loaded truck. I told him it’s an off-road truck and more importantly, it’s MY TRUCK. Build it the way I want it. Now, MOST buyers are doing the same thing. Those large glass roof’s don’t do well with the flexing that occurs in off road situations and leaks, rattles and even cracks are not uncommon. But folks wishing they didn’t pay $1,500 for that feature are certainly regretting it. And even funnier, the dealer is stocking Lariat Tremors with the carpet delete! 😂
@@brbabco5546 Exactly Correct...100 percent agree! ONE of the BEST comments I have read in several weeks...maybe a few months! I live out west - Rocky Mountain state.....remote scenic area...mud and snow conditions and ordered the following truck --------------------------------------------------------->
2022 F350 7.3L Lariat - UP - BAP - Tremor with Warn 12,000 LB winch.....loaded up with ALL big and little options....except No AS, No ACC and No Power Moonroof. Had to wait a year, but ordered from an out of state dealer.....Granger Motors Inc at 2% below invoice. So...I am Very Fortunate....have a truck with awesome build sheet at a great price!
A good friend ordered from Granger the same day...almost identical truck...has all of the same options my truck has...but he opted for the SAP instead of BAP.....and he added the missing upgrades. With snow and mud conditions...we get the trucks off-road on uneven terrain...so glad we did not get the Power Moonroofs....but glad we have all of the other goodies...like Power Running Boards, Upfitter Switches, Carpet Delete, Heated Steering Wheels, etc. These Tremor trucks are awesome and perform exceptionally for our needs and uses.
These city guys who work at dealers are not that sharp. They order trucks with the options they think all people want. There are plenty of customers who want Lariat, King Ranch and even Platinum ......but no Power Moonroof or Carpet. Read the threads on the Ford Tremor website and other forums.
If somebody needs an F450 and can’t get it due to wheel issues then simply ordering an F350 is NOT a solution, that’s a downgrade and may not be an option
no stock i have been waiting 2 years for a truck
Is it fitted with ford's infamous powershit gearbox like the crappy focus they conned me into buying and then refused to fix it when the gearbox fell apart like all the others.
Stay far away from Ford's, until they resolve their recall problems. I was a Ford customer for years and switched over to Toyota and Lexus.
I'm on restriction. 0% availability to overpay for a long delayed truck. Ford has missed 3 truck sales from me alone due to availability.
i wouldnt trust ford building a wheel barrow with their current quality standards being NONEXISTANT!!.
That would explain why my Nov F-350 order with a tonneau cover, spray-in, and gooseneck has no VIN.
I cant imagine what mpg is for that bronco regardless how cool it looks. A dang a lot of money to make it look like that
This is a bummer but Ford is saving me some money as I’ll just keep on running my 13 F150 rather than buying new.
When they started using zip ties to hold the bumpers on that did it for me, yeah, I won’t be buying any more Ford products!
I’m probably not the only guy that will never but a gas super duty. What’s the point
Save $10K over the diesel yet take a $20K hit on resale value.
@@brbabco5546 Very true! That’s what know one understands. Gas vehicles don’t hold there value like diesels do.
I have owned several diesel F350 4WD SRW trucks in the past....used the trucks to tow gooseneck horse trailers and flatbeds. Took horses to several states for competitions...3 to 4 weekends every month for 6 months a year for 15 years. Not towing frequently anymore, but still needed a Class 2 (F250) or Class 3 (F350) truck.
The diesel engines need to work...need to tow heavy loads. So many guys buy the diesel, yet never USE it much for the intended purpose. All the emission systems on diesels nowadays.....not good for long term ownership...will be expensive. The 7.3L gas engine in my 2022 F350 Lariat Tremor is a beast of an engine. It will tow anything I want to tow...not as efficiently as a diesel...which are great for launching a load from a stop and a bit better for passing at highway speed with a load.
@@brbabco5546 Factor in the extra cost of diesel fuel, def, cost of extra oil for oil changes and added diesel engine maintenance costs and you more than make up for that loss of resale value you claim. The fact is, the vast majority of people don't haul heavy loads everyday or put a few hundred thousand miles on their work trucks, and really don't need a diesel superduty truck. But, hey diesels are cool and you can tell everyone your truck is a diesel.
What can they build these days, dealers are going to continue to have a field day over charging
Ford went WOKE 👎
Should of stopped the 22 builds mid 22 and started building 23s, was simply as that. If ford told thier dealers " hey we are stopping the 22 builds and doing model 23s, most customers will have to pay an additional$1500-5k but your getting a better updated truck". People are paying 75-115k for a Super Duty, most would mind the minimal extra cost as well as dealers not being able to mark them up since our supply problem has been improved from skipping the 22s!
My guess is that they couldn't because they were still trying to complete orders submitted in 2021.
I have been waiting 8 months on a f-350 4x2 drw crew cab xl model. It's a joke
The all new 2023 ford super duty only $2,438,982 take it home today 😂😂😂
Man i really appreciate you all Seriously considering buying from you from Texas
I live in NYC and only bought my mustangs from what was once Sandy Springs Ford in GA. They sold the dealership to one of those ridiculous super companies. Dealing with them after that with my Shelby’s left a bad taste in my mouth. Sandy Springs looked out for their good customers. The new management were awful. Mark ups and other nonsense has me looking for another Ford dealer as well.
Same here. I’m from Louisiana but I pass through Bessemer AL at least twice a year and I can see the dealership from the interstate.
October 2021, a friend and I each ordered 2022 F350 Lariat 7.3L - UP - (his SAP) (mine BAP) - Tremor Package with Warn 12,000 LB winch and ALL but three options (No AS, No ACC, and No Power Moonroof). We live in a remote scenic area of the Rocky Mountains.....but ordered the two trucks from Granger Motors Inc (Ford and Jeep dealer in Iowa) at 2% below invoice. Absolutely phenomenal dealer.....awesome...the best!!! Call and ask to speak to Ashleigh.
Friend added the LED lights, Tough Bed, Front and Rear Wheel Well Liners (items not included with SAP)...and both trucks had the 5th Wheel / Gooseneck Prep Package. His truck was built in April 2022 and mine in August 2022. Delivery was about 2 months later on each truck. Yeah, I waited a few days over a year, but it was worth it.....and glad I ordered a 2022. One option we like a lot...the Carpet Delete...especially where we live and use the trucks in mud and snow!
So what you're saying is Ford is only building XL Super Dutys for 2023?
Ford wants people to pay 100k for a truck but you can’t order it how you want 😂 GTFO
Why all these restrictions and percentages??!!
What is that ugly shifter. Why didn’t they keep the 11-22 Column shifter
I ordered a f350 tremor lariat with all options mentioned here everything but the moonroof. First truck i have ever ordered as there was always plenty of stock before the wuflu. The day order banks opened i was at my dealership with my build so hopefully ill get in on the first wave of lariats. Still no build date but have gotten a few emails from ford.
I have seen some guys getting build dates for lariat 7.3 trucks mid march
My 250 Lariat has a built date of Week of April 24 from a reliable source
@@mikerydlewski1111 Did you order a diesel. I ordered mine with the new High output hopefully that does not hold my build up too long
@@W00lly001 no it’s a 7.3 which is the standard gas engine now I was wondering myself how many engines in each line up they have because the first 2 days the order banks opened had 88000
You didn’t cover the chip delete package. Get your Ford overnight!
Ford is OK. But for a $100000 are we gonna accept OK. Im not...
Cute TC Customs sales pitch. But as you SHOULD know, the Tremor package is more than a lift. Limited front slip, drive modes, water fording vent tubes. Slap a supercharger on the Godzilla? Heck no! Although nice, reason a lot of us are getting the diesel is the power to mpg ratio. I know, I know, "you are worried about getting mpg's when your getting a Super Duty?!". Yes. When your hauling, up grades and long distances, fuel milage IS a factor.
I have a spray in bed liner, Vista panoramic roof and the wheel well covers on my build with the lariat ultimate package with the 7.3. No build date as of yet and if I don't have one by May, I'm taking my deposit back and canceling my order. Interest rates continue to climb and I'm not going to take delivery of a new truck a model year late. I'm seeing plenty of Chevy's and GMC trucks showing up on the lots and they'll do what I need them to do. The Ram is overpriced and the GM trucks have shitty interiors.
Id rather have the 22’ super duty. Not a fan of the new design.
so any truck that costs more then 70k your your waiting awhile lol
This is absurd! Why the hell would you buy a truck based on the specs you can't get!! Substitute this for that, order this but not that and add an aftermarket product bc Ford can't supply it!! Wow!! Ford is going down hill.I got a 2022 F150 Powerboost the 2023 with the same specs is 6K higher. Damn!
Guess I'll get another ram since ford can't get their stuff together