How to Properly Set Up Coil-overs

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
  • We don't often get technical with our videos, but I've spent so much time setting up my suspension for the last few years that I felt like you all might appreciate an in depth look at setting up suspension.
    These are the coilovers that I got for my civic:
    fortune-auto.com/coilovers/dr...
    If you're looking to learn more about some of these topics, check out these resources:
    Setting bumpstops -
    honeddevelopments.com/bumpsto...
    Roll Center correction -
    honeddevelopments.com/suspens...
    Bumpsteer -
    honeddevelopments.com/honda-c...
    Motion Ratios -
    deltavee.net/2013/10/wheel-ra...
    Setting up control arms -
    professionalawesome.com/the-d...
    Corner Balancing -
    • What Is Corner Balanci...
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    “Grenadine” - Neon Beach - XVXKSSMVF7BZLWWK
    “Clone Credits” - Neon Beach - EKJEX3EMENVTL0KO
    “Take a Breath” - JeesGuy - 3P0BFQIAIOFXXJA6
    “Finessed” - JeesGuy - DBFXYNFCSDD93GCU
    “B Side” - Nu Alkemi$t - KFFS8VAGFOBF97QP
    “Sky Trails” - Nom Fabriqué - 3DAJ0YSAY6KWMOTQ
    00:00 - Intro
    01:07 - Coilover Options
    03:12 - Compression and Rebound
    05:00 - Installing the Coilovers
    05:49 - Setting Ride height
    07:20 - Setting Bumpstops
    10:36 - Compression/Droop Ratio
    12:06 - Corner Balance
    12:50 - Alignment
    12:58 - Conclusion
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Комментарии • 170

  • @devinherndon56
    @devinherndon56 Год назад +330

    Momma I made it 🙌🏾 in all seriousness, I’m happy you’re on our suspension finally and the results speak for themselves!

    • @zoetice433
      @zoetice433 Год назад +2

      Damn devin ahaha um 😳

    • @devinherndon56
      @devinherndon56 Год назад +3

      @@zoetice433 huh ? 😅

    • @thelifeofguyon
      @thelifeofguyon Год назад +3

      our boy!

    • @N3RV001
      @N3RV001 Год назад +1

      He's been on Fortune for years?

    • @devinherndon56
      @devinherndon56 Год назад +10

      @@N3RV001 nope, he was on Ktuned prior. Tall Ben has been on our suspension for a while

  • @stimofo808
    @stimofo808 Год назад +54

    Good work on explaining the complexities of proper suspension setup. I’d say 80% of slammed car owners don’t understand this and another 10% of owners don’t do this.

    • @justinguarino201
      @justinguarino201 Год назад

      If anyone understands it, it is going to be the slammed vehicles lol. Considering they have to account for chassis swap to not buckle or crush a body panel.

  • @juddy953
    @juddy953 Год назад +27

    Finally a channel that shows the correct way to set up coilovers 👏

  • @emilionaranjo5894
    @emilionaranjo5894 Год назад +12

    Thanks for being that car channel that best describes my interests within the car community. You guys are phenomenal. It’s been a trip, I’ve been watching since the escort and the progress speaks for itself…

  • @MattGreenland
    @MattGreenland Год назад +31

    Good job going through this all! Definitely one of the clearest videos for teaching how to setup 2 piece coilovers with goodninfor to take to one piece coilovers. Will be sharing as a demonstration of how to setup suspension.

  • @chuck6652
    @chuck6652 Год назад +1

    I absolutely love it when you guys do the work on your vehicles yourself! Loved the video!

  • @therealboofighter
    @therealboofighter Год назад +23

    This channel has come a long way from working on your turbo escort. Great to see the progress.

  • @jasond126
    @jasond126 Год назад +9

    Keep these type of track technical video coming 👍 ❤️

  • @JJBanuelos
    @JJBanuelos Год назад +3

    This couldn’t have came at at better time! I just literally installed 2 way adjustable Coilovers on my c5 vette & I was wondering how to properly setup them up. Awesome job explaining everything.

  • @arvin_arn
    @arvin_arn Год назад +1

    One of the very few youtube channels that goes over the correct way to setup coilovers! Great video as always!

  • @RSKev
    @RSKev Год назад +1

    Fortune auto is great, and Devin is a huge help for dialing in my setup!

  • @KutsugeMindUrmoks
    @KutsugeMindUrmoks Год назад +3

    I love this civic. Excited to see where it goes once you decide to go higher class again!

  • @kid.failure
    @kid.failure Год назад

    Great resources. Huge fan of what you guys do. Much love!

  • @IdEk5627
    @IdEk5627 Год назад

    Finally someone made this video. So many people dont know and dont really show how to set it up out of the box.

  • @jdmkidk24
    @jdmkidk24 Год назад

    Think I need to watch this again because it’s so good and redo my simple 1 way coilovers. Amazing video

  • @along_for_the_ride_uk
    @along_for_the_ride_uk Год назад

    great explanation on everything! broke it down nicely! really enjoyed this one

  • @DREWlanning
    @DREWlanning Год назад

    Great episode! Been waiting for this one for a while.

  • @ShakotanZero
    @ShakotanZero Год назад

    Can’t wait to see the changes with the new suspension

  • @pieterv6984
    @pieterv6984 Год назад +5

    Thank you for this. Interesting. Hope this gets a follow-up on the track with some explanation about what you notice and how you adjust.

  • @Just_Wanna_Drive
    @Just_Wanna_Drive Год назад

    Without a doubt, this is the best coilover setup video in the history of RUclips. I'll see you in Club TR next year! 🍺

  • @kumakaroshi117
    @kumakaroshi117 Год назад

    Love the information, thank you for the time and effort

  • @cc2321
    @cc2321 Год назад

    Finally a proper guide for coilover install!

  • @helpmerunaway2651
    @helpmerunaway2651 Год назад

    Thanks for the content guys,,,love from kenya 🇰🇪

  • @natinaga82
    @natinaga82 Год назад

    Excited when mine arrives

  • @fabianmendoza61
    @fabianmendoza61 Год назад

    These videos make my saturday mornings

  • @dee1089
    @dee1089 Год назад +1

    really wish you guys would do a in -depth series on this technical stuff that no one on yt talks about. you know,, in your usual way and not in front of a chalk board. it would be very educational; for those whom dont have the connections for this type of reliable info locally.

  • @J.Galvao76
    @J.Galvao76 Год назад

    Awesome video...... for sure i have to see it more times as i custom fit some coils to my car
    Thanks Ben

  • @MrMirofl
    @MrMirofl Год назад

    Hey thanks for all the valuable information!

  • @psewgobind
    @psewgobind Год назад

    Nice seeing the science behind suspension travel. If done right, double wishbone’s ability to toe out is going to create some magic.

  • @backnunAndy
    @backnunAndy Год назад

    Your project civic car is getting faster as well as becoming prettier than ever before!

  • @fixinbrokevws9959
    @fixinbrokevws9959 Год назад

    Great info and great video 👍

  • @weresonic11
    @weresonic11 Год назад

    A nice glaze over it but still informative to those who don't know. Can't wait to see the ZX2 get a set

  • @faithisinyou7988
    @faithisinyou7988 2 месяца назад

    I learned something today sweet!

  • @JFlogerzi
    @JFlogerzi Год назад

    This will be helpful when I go to get my new dedicated track setup

  • @Lastsight100
    @Lastsight100 Год назад +1

    MY FA500s show up this wed! I'm really excited.

  • @artblackwood7936
    @artblackwood7936 Год назад

    Great information.

  • @florian_montuzet
    @florian_montuzet Год назад

    It was very very very interesting !

  • @ll.7927
    @ll.7927 Год назад

    Bro love your car. Bought a shirt the other day. Trying to set my car up for road racing.

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel Год назад

    👏👏👏👏👏 HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND EVERYONE

  • @seewithsam
    @seewithsam Год назад

    Guess who just joined a Motorsport Engineering course. This is great help.

  • @juice992
    @juice992 Год назад

    Great info!

  • @anotheryoutuber_
    @anotheryoutuber_ Год назад

    droop is joy!

  • @tortuga34
    @tortuga34 Год назад +3

    Great explanation, thanks Ben. Makes me wonder how much better can suspension tech get? Interesting stuff for sure.

    • @opiatool
      @opiatool Год назад +3

      Maybe not much better with current materials and design mindset but new technologies and materials science could radically change how cars and suspension works.

    • @bilaltariq7819
      @bilaltariq7819 Год назад

      A LOT better with race dampers, and then even more with mode decoupling

    • @lancercool1992
      @lancercool1992 9 месяцев назад

      new cars coming out like iphones no one's got time to do proper r&d

  • @initialdluvr
    @initialdluvr Год назад

    I can never focus on your topic when you're working on the Civic because I'm too busy admiring that Civic. That generation Civic hatchback has such a timeless design in my opinion.

  • @NotNow293
    @NotNow293 Год назад +3

    Finally! Suspension made by an actual suspension company.

  • @IBmotive
    @IBmotive Год назад +1

    Proper video. Few points to add; Tbf it doesn’t make whole lot of sense to first set the spring perch heights(rideheight) b4 setting the full compr setting since you’re gonna adjust it anyway, this way, you can save some time by installing coilover directly, without a spring.
    And every tire is different from another, for example 195/50/15 ar-1 vs 195/50/15 R888, there is a 7/8mm height difference in the tire. (Even some width) This means that the tire will hit the chassis in full compression..
    And the bumpstop will compress more than what you’re able to do with the cars weight & lifting the wishbone & coilover to check bumpstop travel. For example at foxhole in nurburgring, there can easily be 2G’s. It’s a good measure to factor in a 5mm extra space between tire & chassis if you really dont want to rub in ANY situation.

  • @squadcars5896
    @squadcars5896 Год назад

    this video was good

  • @MRMAN-wb1tv
    @MRMAN-wb1tv Год назад

    *Virginia in the house!*

  • @Planexpert90
    @Planexpert90 Год назад

    What's sitting in your lap while you're in the driver's seat, showing the corner balance on the scale display? Ballast of some sort? I initially thought it might be your helmet/race suit, but it looks like it's attached to the steering wheel, so I'm not sure what I'm looking at! Great video, as always. Love that you're giving us this level of technical detail, it's great to see how much thought goes into making a fast car that tenth faster.

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 Год назад

    Now you know. And knowing is half the battle!

  • @hmmhuh12
    @hmmhuh12 Год назад +1

    God damn. My man is running the dreadnought. Tell me your suspension is more expensive then your car without telling me.

  • @toycoma98
    @toycoma98 Год назад

    So, where do you set the compression and rebound knobs on the shocks at? Set it in the middle as a starting point?

  • @emicmoto
    @emicmoto Год назад

    nice that you show the alignment for 8 seconds

  • @Elmanret
    @Elmanret Год назад

    I think the most important part is the camber and toe adjustment, I saw you doing it but not explained, off corse that can be dial in the track with a infrared thermometer.

  • @jamesk3565
    @jamesk3565 Год назад

    Damn so I already missed you in Jersey

  • @Newbenwindowcleaningcom
    @Newbenwindowcleaningcom Год назад

    I have bc racing with 32 damper setting , should I put super hard or on 16 17 click for track day ?

  • @CorbinSikes
    @CorbinSikes Год назад

    Hey, so out of curiosity how/what did you use to mount the canister? Just got my coils and was wondering if you had any tips :)

  • @harrisonmorin616
    @harrisonmorin616 Год назад +1

    Yay my morning poop held out 😂 best shit to wake up to.

  • @kelbaez
    @kelbaez 10 месяцев назад

    hey Ben, are you running Helper springs or Tender/Assist Springs?

  • @CarlosFlores-dy4sk
    @CarlosFlores-dy4sk Год назад

    Hi what kind of spring rates are you running with the roll center correction?

  • @walterharris6191
    @walterharris6191 Год назад

    Are you guys coming to gridlife in Colorado?

  • @jasond126
    @jasond126 11 месяцев назад

    Nee clarification. When setting the ride height for 50% compression and 50% droop do you adjust the spring perch or the shock perch?

  • @aprl
    @aprl Год назад

    do these suspension setup tips apply to all cars in general or are specific cars different?

  • @MrUnicornsinmycereal
    @MrUnicornsinmycereal Год назад

    Serious question here!
    Ik there are tons of factors when it comes to spring rates but looking for a good rule of thumb for a fwd track car. Do you want neutral spring rates or a stiff bias to front/rear? For context my car is front heavy 60-40,lowered, big rear sway bar, cambered -2,-1.5 with .01 toe out front and rear. Any help is appreciated as theres so much personal biased info but i want facts.

  • @TM-fx5le
    @TM-fx5le 3 месяца назад +1

    At 9:30 , are you also changing the preload of the spring?

  • @werewolfpixies123
    @werewolfpixies123 Год назад

    How would you adjust bump stop height on independent suspension?

  • @atthelimit88
    @atthelimit88 Год назад

    Do you feel the K-swap FRS\BRZ will end up taking over this class? Seems all that chassis needed was a better engine.

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 Год назад

    At 5:00......really like the LoFi background music.

  • @NotUrDJ
    @NotUrDJ Год назад +2

    Now that's some great sponsored content

  • @KingENDLESS
    @KingENDLESS Год назад

    Following this series to help build my teams Passat endurance race car. Please help

  • @ChristianLikesFootball
    @ChristianLikesFootball Год назад

    Why do you want to lower the shock body and utilise the bumpstop (have the bumpstop compressed) inlieu spring compression? Most coilovers are height adjustable at the lower collar and using the strut lower cup. I just wanted to know why the need to utilise the bumpstop and not the springs to prevent bottoming out?

  • @jackweta
    @jackweta Год назад

    good to see you gave up on those ktuned coilovers. check corner balance when turning into a corner dependant on caster

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 Год назад +1

    Uhhh....Professor Ben, starting at 4:21....willl this material be on the next test?!?

  • @calebzorn1613
    @calebzorn1613 Год назад

    When is the k swap glow up coming for the escort?

  • @fengrr
    @fengrr Год назад

    so when would you swap spring rates?

  • @Darkon90210
    @Darkon90210 Год назад

    Hilarious question, but what lug nuts are you running?

  • @sir3nz478
    @sir3nz478 8 месяцев назад

    What are your spring rates for rear?

  • @justinguarino201
    @justinguarino201 Год назад

    How do you know by “feeling” I don’t get that lol. Like if I’ve never felt it before how do I know if it is correct or not

  • @FreakySquid515
    @FreakySquid515 Год назад

    Take a shot every time he says “a little bit” lol

  • @gushchinica
    @gushchinica Год назад

    Бены! Вы крутые!

  • @buttdyno
    @buttdyno Год назад

    2:00 travel before bind is also a pretty relevant detail when selecting coilover springs (though not much difference between the Hypercos and Swifts here). Also, do the springs actually test out at their stated rate?

    • @TJPDmember
      @TJPDmember Год назад

      Swift springs are load tested :) i dunno about the other.

    • @bilaltariq7819
      @bilaltariq7819 Год назад

      Stick em in a shock dyno

  • @spencersgarage
    @spencersgarage Год назад +1

    I want the most comfortable ride coilovers I can get for my daily driven ‘91 Civic hatch. As for ride height, I’m not looking to be slammed, again this is a daily driver so a little lower than stock is preferred. Currently my Civic has Tein progressive lowering springs with Bilstein struts. All other suspension components are Hardrace with hardened rubber bushings. So which coilovers and brands do you guys suggest for the most in comfort?

    • @growingup4487
      @growingup4487 Год назад +1

      tein z and soften the springs and dampers and you're good

    • @neonovember7023
      @neonovember7023 Год назад +1

      Entry level kW suspension show do

    • @spencersgarage
      @spencersgarage Год назад

      @@neonovember7023 are KW comfortable though?

  • @sooyster4033
    @sooyster4033 Год назад +1

    6:53 Hi tall Ben...working on next week's video are we?

  • @kingwei1838
    @kingwei1838 Год назад

    Let's Time Attack CiviC!!!!!!!!

  • @N911GT2
    @N911GT2 Год назад +1

    Here we go again. Little Ben doing a commercial and wrapping it as ‘content’.

  • @iansharpe8420
    @iansharpe8420 Год назад +4

    million dollar question, don you regret going full race car? was it more fun while it was simple? curious moreso than anything. great video as always

    • @miguelaguilera6601
      @miguelaguilera6601 Год назад +3

      I mean considering he just tracks the car and never uses it on the road I expect him to not regret it at all. Especially considering its a FWD car. FWD cars really do completely transform when given full racecar spec. Also keep in mind that going full racecar allows him to get creative considering the class he is in, and obviously this is great for the YT channel. I don't know what his personal views are but I think he's done the right thing going full track tool on this one. And obviously the Honda platform is more than ideal for that

    • @miguelaguilera6601
      @miguelaguilera6601 Год назад

      don't mind my English.. not native

    • @iansharpe8420
      @iansharpe8420 Год назад

      @@miguelaguilera6601 I get that, and your english is good! I just wonder, is the fun of hopping into a car and ripping up the canyons missed. I'm sure track days are massive fun, but a massive headache too. The finacial aspect must be daunting as well

    • @miguelaguilera6601
      @miguelaguilera6601 Год назад

      @@iansharpe8420 I sure miss the canyon days. Honestly I want them to finish the Mr2 Toyota engine swap build and the K swap S2000 build and do some canyon runs... I think once they are done with both of those cars which I would say it'll take them 10 months.. they should do a nice road trip. Something like east to west or north to south or diagonally crossing the country

  • @ImpalaSS08
    @ImpalaSS08 Месяц назад

    When they’re free of course you’ll choose the Dreadnaughts. 😂😂😂

  • @JWONG-pu8ky
    @JWONG-pu8ky Год назад

    Number 1 item you need for this job, hydraulic lifts HAHAHA cant imagine the pain doing this without powertools and lifts

    • @MRMAN-wb1tv
      @MRMAN-wb1tv Год назад

      Actually not hard at with a floor and some jack stands.

    • @MRMAN-wb1tv
      @MRMAN-wb1tv Год назад +3

      You know what I take that back you right. Lol. This man taking it all off again and putting them back together

  • @hyper8545
    @hyper8545 Год назад +1

    I like fortune auto coils but I also like bc

  • @savothkeo1354
    @savothkeo1354 Год назад

    Yeeeee

  • @christuem2086
    @christuem2086 Год назад +1

    explain the dialing in process :) That's gonna be interesting

  • @raiuwu
    @raiuwu Год назад

    I can't get over how handsome the fortune auto representative is at the beginning of the video. Like I'm not even gay, bro just has really great teeth.

  • @jessehill3780
    @jessehill3780 7 месяцев назад

    It’s funny because isn’t fortune one of the coilover companies that say to adjust ride height with the lower collar and cup and not with preload? I do agree making sure your tire and arms don’t hit sure makes a lot of sense but I think fortune is one of the companies who say don’t adjust preload for ride height.

  • @Chris_Nation4_Rally
    @Chris_Nation4_Rally Год назад

    Watching Gears and Gasoline is like watching weekly Saturday morning cartoons

  • @Goodman-4525
    @Goodman-4525 Год назад

    Is MIA still road legal btw

  • @Eggsplanepls
    @Eggsplanepls Год назад

    lowkey had to see if Cameron Hills brz was totalled or not before i clicked on this one 😳

  • @turbo_brian
    @turbo_brian Год назад +1

    You skipped checking the corner balance after attaching the swaybars. That's what adjustable swaybar endlinks are for. A lot of aftermarket bars aren't perfectly symmetrical and will "wedge" the car a little with equal length swaybar endlinks. Obviously this is a manufacturing tolerance thing so it's possible the bars are perfect, just not likely.

  • @kristofersanchez8156
    @kristofersanchez8156 Год назад

    ✔️✔️✔️✔️

  • @whiteunclerukus
    @whiteunclerukus Год назад

    Here

  • @JawnCoaltrain
    @JawnCoaltrain Год назад +2

    Is this just one giant ad for Fortune Auto?