I find this showcase/mini-documentary quite lacking since it doesn't in any way mention in what ways this mod is Starcrafty. I imagine lower health-to-damage ratio, more varied tech trees between civs and tighter tech trees overall, but I honestly have no idea. Even if you did not want to make a deep dive into the various civs of this mod, I still think you should have included the basics about the actual changes to the base game.
I tried to go into detail about as many core gameplay changes as I thought people would have the patience to hear about, but I clearly underestimated how much detail people would want! I do plan on doing a follow-up to this video where I go into some more detail, and I'm also going to bear it heavily in mind for when I do other videos of this nature in future.
It looks and sounds pretty good. One recommendation I would like to make for future mod reviews is that you show some actual gameplay that way we can tell how its like
Yeah, a bunch of people have been saying that! I tried to use a bunch as b-roll, thinking that people wouldn't really be interested in a full game, but now that I know it's something you guys really want to see I will make sure to do so in future mod videos, plus hopefully I will put out a supplement to this one in future showing a full competitive game. Thanks for the feedback!
You should check out Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds, a 2002 RTS based on the AoE 2 engine, that's somewhere between a reskin of aoe2 and its own game depending who you ask. I had a lot of fun with it for a while
It's a really cool game! I only played at once, when I was like 7 years old, but it's definitely something I'd like to look at in more detail sometime in future. Can't promise it'll be soon, but I can promise it will happen at some point!
I'd love to see that! The creator said it might be in the works at some point, so definitely join his community if you want to be participating in that once it happens!
This is some interesting stuff. I always say that modders are what keep good games alive for far longer than the ones that are meant be just simply be there for like two years and then the life support will be just plugged off. Modders are miracle workers and I respect them. Interesting mod, by the way. I, as a player of both Age of Empires 2 and StarCraft 2, can say that this mod could be worth the try once I get back into AoE2 again lmao
Hi Robby, Thanks for the video! This mod seems very interesting, and when I will have more time to play AOE at all, I will be enthusiastic to try! While I don't think AOE2 mods should be the main focus of your channel, I would like you to talk about mods - at least those which interest you!
Absolutely, that's a great idea. I had no idea how much you guys wanted to see that! I assume that keeping the video short and sweet would be best, but since so many people have told me they want me to go more in depth of this I intend to do another video that at minimum will show a full match
This mod does showcase some nice scenario editor models. Gidajan, Sumanguru, Pachacuti, Frankish Paladin, Iroquois Warrior. Quite a few were used to make a flavorful mix. The nomad faction could certainly split its steppe forced and germanic migratory group, although this is a very rough grouping not that dissimilar from the Americas either. I would find it funny if there was a dedicated elephant faction, though, where all units are elephants, with gaia elephants as a basic unit.
This is in a way similiar to Aoe3, AoM's and Aoe4 and, for your old school RTS nerds, Empire: dawn of the modern World, handle their factions. Limited number of civs with vastly different gameplay and units. Obviously none of these had this level of factions uniqueness, not even AoM, but this is a nice evolution of the concept
I can answer this, it would play almost similarity to a mix of Red alert 2 to command and conquer. Though this is if I take the whole concept at face value. But instead star craft 2 where there is only 2 resources which are conveniently placed close to each other, in this regard, you will have to think about in a way like Red alert 2 and CnC, where you need to think how you can defend that resource site. Plus another aspect, in SC2, there is an overall resource cap on the map which forces you to play micro intensive, but RA and CnC, you have to think about Macro as the resources by technicality are infinite, which means losing 5 marines at once may suck, it ultimately won't truly damage you late game unless you really spent all your early game resources on 5 marines. plus with such a broad style, you can have an extended unit roster for all 3 factions. Though some units have to be changed around to be less goofy in some regards.
You know... AoE2 actually makes more sense as a Mars/distant planet colony thing than anything else... you start with literally just wilderness and 4 guys, and you have to collect/build literally everything. Slap some space suits and laser guns on there and baby, you got a sci fi AoE2!
Totally. A few others have said so as well, I honestly didn't think people would be interested in seeing a full game and I wanted to keep the video short to hold people's attention! So besides the b-roll that I have in this video already, I'm going to try to put together a supplemental video that just shows a full game. Will keep you all posted when that happens!
I hope you take this as constructive criticism but I think your video construction was so weird, you start talking about having a "healthy dose about starcraft 2 in aoe2" and then you never explain what that really means until 6:25, that should've been before civ explanations and the mod install section. Why would I want to learn how to install a mod when I don't even know if I WANT to install this mod?
Very fair point. I've never done a video like this before so I was largely experimenting. My desire to put the "how to get" section Early was mostly informed by stuff I have seen/heard incomparable videos for other games where the comments are flooded with people asking how they can get the mod when the creator very clearly states how at the end of the video. People just don't watch all the way through sometimes, so I felt like getting the obvious out of the way first was important.
@@robbylava no problem man, I just commented that because I was so confused watching through the video trying to understand what the mod was about and it taking so long to reach that point that tbh I only kept watching because you are a smaller channel
@flyingsteaks hehehe I appreciate you bearing with me. I do plan on doing mod showcases in future, so this sort of feedback is very helpful. Suffice to say that next time I do so I will be structuring it differently!
I feel like people describing AoE 2 as more readable than other RTS games like Starcraft or Command and Conquer is gonna start to bother me more and more lol. Especially when they say it's because it's more historical/realistic. No hate towards AoE 2. I just wouldn't want to see everything turn into that.
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 i don't fully understand stand this. I've played Warcraft and am currently playing Red Alert 2. Neither of those 2 feel like either of the things you're describing to me. At least not enough to make them not also feel like chess. Like if we're using the same definition of spam then I can spam in AoE 2 also. I'm pretty sure I've seen pros do it too. I'll admit the AoE 2 is a slower more methodical game than those other 2. I just don't see the readability argument. Not the chess argument.
I don't personally find AOE2 to be more readable than starcraft or Warcraft, And from what I remember I believe the creator's point was that it is more intuitive when you see something what exactly it is supposed to do, what counters it has, etc, more a product of the theme and it being grounded in history than the visuals being more distinct than other games. An example of a game that he and I both agreed was not very readable in our extended interview was AOE 4, which is one of the many problems I personally have with that game. But starcraft and Warcraft it definitely don't have that problem in my eyes, I think that they are extremely readable and have awesome graphics. But it is undeniably less obvious what units do at a glance, simply because they are both fantastical in nature (not at all a problem in my eyes, and definitely not something that I think in any way invalidates them as games).
this is nothing like I expected from the video title.
Now we need Age of Stars 2, a AoE2 mod in Starcraft 2
Wishlist: Can he mod Warlords Battlecry in SC2 too? 😁.
@@unnamedlegeon Several years ago I tried bringing the sprites from WB3 into AOE 2, but the rendering camera angle between the 2 games was jarring
@@PNWer_of_Souls Woah, you really did it Damn 👍. But what about in SC2? 🤔.
I find this showcase/mini-documentary quite lacking since it doesn't in any way mention in what ways this mod is Starcrafty. I imagine lower health-to-damage ratio, more varied tech trees between civs and tighter tech trees overall, but I honestly have no idea. Even if you did not want to make a deep dive into the various civs of this mod, I still think you should have included the basics about the actual changes to the base game.
I tried to go into detail about as many core gameplay changes as I thought people would have the patience to hear about, but I clearly underestimated how much detail people would want!
I do plan on doing a follow-up to this video where I go into some more detail, and I'm also going to bear it heavily in mind for when I do other videos of this nature in future.
It looks and sounds pretty good. One recommendation I would like to make for future mod reviews is that you show some actual gameplay that way we can tell how its like
Yeah, a bunch of people have been saying that! I tried to use a bunch as b-roll, thinking that people wouldn't really be interested in a full game, but now that I know it's something you guys really want to see I will make sure to do so in future mod videos, plus hopefully I will put out a supplement to this one in future showing a full competitive game.
Thanks for the feedback!
You should check out Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds, a 2002 RTS based on the AoE 2 engine, that's somewhere between a reskin of aoe2 and its own game depending who you ask. I had a lot of fun with it for a while
100 % Indeed
It's a really cool game! I only played at once, when I was like 7 years old, but it's definitely something I'd like to look at in more detail sometime in future. Can't promise it'll be soon, but I can promise it will happen at some point!
Wololo for AIUR ❤
When I read the title, I thought this meant recreating StarCraft 2 in the Age of Empires 2 engine.
Oopsie. Apologies for misleading you!
Same, no zerglings no likey
Really creative twist on the AOE formula. It would be amazing if we had a community tournament using it!
I'd love to see that! The creator said it might be in the works at some point, so definitely join his community if you want to be participating in that once it happens!
This is some interesting stuff. I always say that modders are what keep good games alive for far longer than the ones that are meant be just simply be there for like two years and then the life support will be just plugged off. Modders are miracle workers and I respect them. Interesting mod, by the way. I, as a player of both Age of Empires 2 and StarCraft 2, can say that this mod could be worth the try once I get back into AoE2 again lmao
Really hope you continue to talk about this mod down the line. Like how its played, civ bonus, cast some games, etc.
Cool! I love the idea of this. I used to love sc2 and nowadays i love aoe2de, so this is super interesting
Hi Robby, Thanks for the video! This mod seems very interesting, and when I will have more time to play AOE at all, I will be enthusiastic to try! While I don't think AOE2 mods should be the main focus of your channel, I would like you to talk about mods - at least those which interest you!
I like the format!
Thanks Diego!
it'll be awesome if u could eventually do follow up videos on some game play, or even dive into and explore each civ!
Absolutely, that's a great idea. I had no idea how much you guys wanted to see that! I assume that keeping the video short and sweet would be best, but since so many people have told me they want me to go more in depth of this I intend to do another video that at minimum will show a full match
This mod does showcase some nice scenario editor models. Gidajan, Sumanguru, Pachacuti, Frankish Paladin, Iroquois Warrior. Quite a few were used to make a flavorful mix.
The nomad faction could certainly split its steppe forced and germanic migratory group, although this is a very rough grouping not that dissimilar from the Americas either.
I would find it funny if there was a dedicated elephant faction, though, where all units are elephants, with gaia elephants as a basic unit.
This is in a way similiar to Aoe3, AoM's and Aoe4 and, for your old school RTS nerds, Empire: dawn of the modern World, handle their factions. Limited number of civs with vastly different gameplay and units. Obviously none of these had this level of factions uniqueness, not even AoM, but this is a nice evolution of the concept
I always thought of this!!!❤
I can answer this, it would play almost similarity to a mix of Red alert 2 to command and conquer. Though this is if I take the whole concept at face value.
But instead star craft 2 where there is only 2 resources which are conveniently placed close to each other, in this regard, you will have to think about in a way like Red alert 2 and CnC, where you need to think how you can defend that resource site.
Plus another aspect, in SC2, there is an overall resource cap on the map which forces you to play micro intensive, but RA and CnC, you have to think about Macro as the resources by technicality are infinite, which means losing 5 marines at once may suck, it ultimately won't truly damage you late game unless you really spent all your early game resources on 5 marines.
plus with such a broad style, you can have an extended unit roster for all 3 factions. Though some units have to be changed around to be less goofy in some regards.
I literally laughed with joy when I saw the title. 😁
You know... AoE2 actually makes more sense as a Mars/distant planet colony thing than anything else... you start with literally just wilderness and 4 guys, and you have to collect/build literally everything. Slap some space suits and laser guns on there and baby, you got a sci fi AoE2!
this game is infinite, i love it
Also would be cool to see gameplay, cause otherwise this showcase is a bit too abstract - tho still fun
Totally. A few others have said so as well, I honestly didn't think people would be interested in seeing a full game and I wanted to keep the video short to hold people's attention!
So besides the b-roll that I have in this video already, I'm going to try to put together a supplemental video that just shows a full game. Will keep you all posted when that happens!
Is the AI able to play the mod?
Unfortunately not, it's completely lost
Intresting...
I hope you take this as constructive criticism but I think your video construction was so weird, you start talking about having a "healthy dose about starcraft 2 in aoe2" and then you never explain what that really means until 6:25, that should've been before civ explanations and the mod install section. Why would I want to learn how to install a mod when I don't even know if I WANT to install this mod?
Very fair point. I've never done a video like this before so I was largely experimenting.
My desire to put the "how to get" section Early was mostly informed by stuff I have seen/heard incomparable videos for other games where the comments are flooded with people asking how they can get the mod when the creator very clearly states how at the end of the video. People just don't watch all the way through sometimes, so I felt like getting the obvious out of the way first was important.
@@robbylava no problem man, I just commented that because I was so confused watching through the video trying to understand what the mod was about and it taking so long to reach that point that tbh I only kept watching because you are a smaller channel
@flyingsteaks hehehe I appreciate you bearing with me.
I do plan on doing mod showcases in future, so this sort of feedback is very helpful. Suffice to say that next time I do so I will be structuring it differently!
@@robbylava nice! after you explained your point about the comments on how to install mods now I also get your rationale! gl with the next videos!
I find your voice really similar to TierZoo's
That's a hell of a compliment, thank you!
Pfft Americas?, is that a combination of Canadians and Aztecs 😁.
First!
Was, not were
I feel like people describing AoE 2 as more readable than other RTS games like Starcraft or Command and Conquer is gonna start to bother me more and more lol. Especially when they say it's because it's more historical/realistic.
No hate towards AoE 2. I just wouldn't want to see everything turn into that.
Cause Aoe2 is like a chess instead of mmo style like warcraft or spam able like cnc. When I play it. Aoe 2 always lead to combination.
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 i don't fully understand stand this. I've played Warcraft and am currently playing Red Alert 2. Neither of those 2 feel like either of the things you're describing to me. At least not enough to make them not also feel like chess. Like if we're using the same definition of spam then I can spam in AoE 2 also. I'm pretty sure I've seen pros do it too.
I'll admit the AoE 2 is a slower more methodical game than those other 2. I just don't see the readability argument. Not the chess argument.
I don't personally find AOE2 to be more readable than starcraft or Warcraft, And from what I remember I believe the creator's point was that it is more intuitive when you see something what exactly it is supposed to do, what counters it has, etc, more a product of the theme and it being grounded in history than the visuals being more distinct than other games.
An example of a game that he and I both agreed was not very readable in our extended interview was AOE 4, which is one of the many problems I personally have with that game. But starcraft and Warcraft it definitely don't have that problem in my eyes, I think that they are extremely readable and have awesome graphics. But it is undeniably less obvious what units do at a glance, simply because they are both fantastical in nature (not at all a problem in my eyes, and definitely not something that I think in any way invalidates them as games).