I'd just like to put this quote from the most recent stream here: "This falen empire over here? It's maybe playing like 4D chess. Me on the otherhand? I'm playing 16D mousetrap."
Unbidden: Lunch time ! You, who is currently researching repeatable tech number 70 for everything at this point and is sitting on multiple 300k fleets: *NOT SO FAST, YOU LITTLE BUGGER!*
Except it also had Awakened 3 different Guardians and the last FE awakened to go into war with one of them. Basically greatest 40k roleplay:D Yes, Rothank, it requires a mod.
I'm kind of saddened by the introduction of the ability of the anchors to make the portal invincible. It kind of ruins the "our only hope is sending all we have at the portal in a last-ditch suicide mission for the fate of the galaxy" vibe the old system had.
When the unbidden arrive you have to play Genocide Bingo. Rule 1: Don't win Genocide Bingo Rule 2: DON'T WIN GENOCIDE BINGO Your ship design and your fleet cap decide if you win it or not.
If you have the right technology, you can refit your ships though. When I got the unbidden event recently, I resarched some new tech, and refitted my fleet in order to confront them. I even refitted my fleet a number of times, since I got more technologies over time. I built more ships more or less constantly, and had a rally point set at my main fleet. I finally managed to beat them, before they had managed to spawn any second faction. I guess I was lucky, that they did not spawn next to me.
I like how the spiffing brit and Aspec are sort of working together here. One doing Lore, while the other doing gameplay and mechanics. Pretty neat duo.
I had a game where the majority of the galaxy was in good relations with one another, when the unbidden arrived they were evicted within 2 years by the combined might of the entire late game galaxy.
Their fleets may have 70k fleet power or more but then it's 2380 and the unbidden spawn in the middle of my empire with tons of 400k fleets and instantly kill my fleet and the awakened empire in my alliances fleet as well
Maybe it’s because I scaled up the time period for Beginning, Middle, and End, but I’ve only about 140K and it’s like...2480 (Mind you game end is like 2900) I’ve an incomplete Dyson sphere and about...12 or so planets? Am I doing something wrong or what?
Their names make a lot of sense unbidden means un-invited. I take it that the unbidden wasn't invited showing their status as an invader. Aberrant means differing from the standard and they are the second extradimensional invaders. Vehement means forceful and it could mean the force of the invaders.
Because of the unbidden almost all factions love me. I took one of the first waves head on and had to jump away to keep what little ship remaining. My outpost world got wrecked and since then I am launching guerilla strikes with long range artillery and bs cruisers with bombers. We almost got the portal destroyed when 4 factions joined in the fight! It was epic! Every faction tried to destroy the portal but the fleets where to many! The level hard is a real challenge but I am still alive. Because of the unbidden and scared for human population to cease to exist I took border planets as future fall out shelters in case my capital gets wrecked. And its just couple jumps away! Building full on stations with defence capabilities and just unlocked the shroud mind to reinforce the fleet. The timing and everything is epic and I love this game!
For me they they spawned in at 134k 3 separate fleets and the main fleet of 349k I retreated to my awakened empires ring world. They are in my federation. When they finally started moving we bootfucked them. I had a 200k power fleet alongside their 2 separate fleets of 157k and 200k
So i was playing a solo game this event happened...portal opens in the middle of my empire a throw one 600k and three 250k fleets at me (at the time my fleet was only 70k) but it also spawned more portals which one opened in the middle of the only fallen empire and immediately killing it. Worst of all the universe just had a galactic wide war which decimated everyone and left none prepared
I found a way to make the Unbidden stuck in the System where they appear from the begin on for ever. You just have to send a single ship or any fleet in the System where they are and wait at the very outer rim. This way they try to defend the portal and won´t move until the ship jumps out or get destroy. That makes them very very controllable and gives you time to build up a fleet and make a strategy. Just make sure that they dont jump back right into your fleet if they are already out of their home System. The faster you are, the better it works. Also they mostly jump at certain sectors if you use this strategy (Jumping out of the home system, wait until they jump out, and jump in again). A further advantage is that they wont spawn in many reinforcement fleets.
The Unbidden are awesome, the first few times. I'm glad they made them stop spamming Unbidden at us, it was nice fighting the Prethoryan Scourge, if a little easy. My best memory of the Unbidden is when I was in lead of a massive group of vassals, the Devouring Swarm we had was actually as strong as me fleet power wise. We all actually gathered up in a 16 fleet strong doomstack of doomstacks, ready to destroy the Unbidden in one huge brawl, when suddenly- game crashes. Save corrupted. Me crying. We only saw the first salvo of giga cannons and tachyons firing off when suddenly it did that. It was going to be so beautiful...
The Unbidden actually really helped me in my game. Because of them I was able to more than double my territory and planets without declaring a single war, whilst in a pacifist federation, surrounded by allies. They spawned in a federation associate's territory in a spot where they'd blocked my expansion. They then killed the technology fallen empire next to me and only managed to destroy one of my systems before I got enough artillery battleships to destroy their smaller fleets and anchors. They had a 250k fleet guarding the portal so I just left them for a while while I expanded around them and restored the worlds and ring worlds they'd destroyed. All I had to do to keep them in check was destroy a 50k fleet every few years.
My first time meeting these boys, I had an excellent time. Spawned right on a fallen empire, with several large vassals between myself and it. They got softened right up while I was on my way, and then I just took and held the portal while the rest of the galaxy was mopped up.
Minor correction: Matter Disintegrators have 50% shield piercing, not shield damage bonus. That means that even when your shields are up 50% of the damage goes through to hull. (It also means they don't shield spread). When you get to use them they're a solidly mid tier weapon, with the major downside that they have the highest power draw of any weapon for their size, meaning you almost always need to sacrifice armour or shield to run them, and so they're not usually worth the tradeoff.
Also, Unbidden aren't completely stuffed for tracking. Most of their weapons are medium size and have 30 tracking (including that lightning weapon they use, which is not an arc emitter, it's a lowish damage 30 tracking weapon which does not pierce shields but does have 100% AP), and they have tier 4 sensors. (Nothing from combat computer though). They tend to run very few small weapons though, so if you can really push evasion with eg. a Psychic admiral a corvette swarm would give them problems. They do have really bad evasion too, even their small ships only have a base evasion of 20%. (Large 15 and Medium 25). Swarm small ships have base 65.
Arc Emitters rip their ships to pieces with little effort; 40k fleets of bb equipped with arc emitters will end the event if they spawn near you if you take their fleets one by one.
Arc emitters are actually one of the worst weapons against Unbidden. Arc emitters have very low DPS and Unbidden do not actually have strong shields, armour or any evasion. In other words, all the things arc emitters are supposed to counter. They have lots of hitpoints and no defence. Only about 1/5 of their total health is in shields. If you use XL weapons at all, use Giga Cannons which are many many times better against them than Arc Emitters. However, because they all orbit you it's better not to use XL weapons at all, just use Kinetic Batteries which can keep up their fire when things drive around them. All the received wisdom about fighting crises is wrong. Unbidden are not about shields, they have large unprotected health bars. Prethoryn are not all about armour and you don't need flak, their small craft have high evasion and most of your flak shoots down missiles that were going to lose their DPS to overkill anyway. (Fight Prethoryn with large plasma and medium gauss for best effect).
Matter disitigrators are one of the strongest two things you can use, minus counter building. By the time you can kill the unbidden you should be at repeatables, assuming you are well experienced or the unbiddem dosnt spawn in an awakened empire and die instantly. Once ypu are at repeatables you can spam armor tech to make the difference and spam energy weapon tech, which is super effecitient because unlike the other builds arc & disintigrator uses one weapon type
I'm sad that I never got to experience much of the Unbidden cuz the one time they spawned it was at a system where I had my 50k fleet moving over to prepare for some other war, and my 34k fleet wasn't too far away either. So essentially I crushed them at first contact, which is good but I wanted to see chaos :(
If they didn't change the timing fundamentally, you have misunderstood something! The Unbidden event can trigger after at least 150 years when an empire with at least 10k fleet power researched a Jump Drive (Psi also counts). At this moment a mean_time_to_happen starts to count down, which starts by 500 years and is reduced by 20% when you finish the Wanderlust events and additional 20% when you researched the Psi Jump Drive. There is also a litte randomization in the mean_time_to_happen mechanic which the Wiki only explains as. "This will add a delay to the event. Once the trigger condition is fulfilled the event will delay itself for a random time around the mean time." You can think of the mean_time_to_happen as travel time after the Unbidden noticed the Jump Drive Signal until they reached your galaxy.
I remember the first game I got these guys, I jumped on them instantly and attacked the portal, I lost like half my fleet, but the monsters were vanquished.
Ugh. Spawned right next to my home world, I was happily the strongest fleet in my half of the galaxy but still got owned! I’ll know more next time thanks for the vids, you’ve taught me how to actually play & enjoy this game!
Aaahhh, the unbidden, it's actually an event I really want background on, since all of the unbidden factions seems to know each other, have an history, and are competing towards the same goal, it would be nice if you could ally with one of them, becoming their vassal/partner, to help them secure the throne, it would certainly had more flavor than just killing killing and killing with a mega doomstack, which seems to be every last viable end game crisis so far (No, the current AI rebellion is not viable, it's a spaceport sabotage simulator, nothing more, nothing less, and the crisis that is going to replace is the same as the two others : Giant fleets appear, kill everyone, congratulation, your doomstack was the strongest). P.S : I know this must sound very salty, but I'm just tired that every big event like that just is about how big your fleet is, not about how advanced you are, wether it is in diplomacy, science, psionics, or whatever.
Last game I was playing as an exterminator AI and by the time these guys spawned I had already wiped out all the other factions and was just waiting for the crisis to start with a massive fleet....also I have been using a mixture of void beams and plasma since early game on most of my fleet. And the portal appeared 2 jumps away from an active gate with 2 hyperlanes, one of which was leading to a dead end system. I was on their ass and had them boxed in before they could even take one system. They really did pick the wrong dimension.
As I've never let the Unbidden last for that long for any other faction to spawn, it took me a while to figure out you were saying "Aberrant" and "Vehement." You're pronouncing them like they're some kind of Hindu gods and not English words.
Its odd, the two times they spawned in my games they did so on the opposite side of the galaxy, yet after 50 years of in game time they still didn't get those 15%.
*Cries in not having expansion* Also, I know it’s weird, but do the unbidden have like, signs in a campaign? Like glowing science ship, or something? Just asking...cause me and another empire both have jump drives. And I MAAAY have stolen the tech for strategic deployment reasons...
The first time I encountered these, I was a fanatic militarist spiritualist empire known as the Klauth'Antu hierarchy. They spawned in my plant neighbours right when I was testing my new juggernaut on their military. I had psi jump drives, and their anchor was undefended. My military was devastated when their fleets returned to the anchorless system. But it was glorious. Sadly they had no skulls or blood.
Bro they spawned at the worst time, they spawned in right after i finished a territory war and now im pinned down by a fleet of 160k💀 ive tried to fight it but i only managed to bring it down to 90k before my fleet was obliterated. Im weeping in the corner 😭
I´m glad i triggered a war in the Heavens before the Unbidden came and lucky me the portal just spwaned next to the Awakened Empire and only two planets were lost.
I've never defeated the Unbidden through brute force. Instead, I've used a bait strategy. It's basically surrounding the final system where they have the portal with 2 fleets, one divertion, one real. The divertion fleet needs to have good evasion, and get to the system from the far end of the portal. All unbidden there will fly to this fleet. Wait as much as you can, and when they engage, fly in with the real fleet from the portal side. This fleet should try to maximize damage to the portal. The time it takes for the ubidden fleets to defeat the diversion and fly back OR for the other unbidden fleets in different systems to get there is how long you get to destroy the portal. I believe it's easier to pull off then brute force your way into the portal.
How to not start a Unbidden crisis event or destroy it 101 step.1 research jump drives to 70% ( this is for step 3) step.2 get powerful fleets and tech and make sure you are peeped step.3 Research jump drives step.4 rush to where the unbidden spawn and crush them step.5 you have stoped the unbidden
Unbidden arrived in a system with pulsar that was located right near my gate. Gate that was connected to every main fleet base. Guess what happened like... the second they entered the Galaxy.
Be me: have a peace time, some boons from the Shroud for maneuverability and speed, as well as Juggernaut. And watch Unbidden arrive in a pulsar system near my gate on the border. Gate leading to every single main fleet base.
@@anarchyandempires5452 "So you came here to feast. You came here looking for a prey, for people too weak to protect themselfs. Ha! You came to the wrong dimension, xenos. Now pray to your alien gods to have mercy on you, for we will not!" - Admiral Vyacheslav Zhirov at the beginning of Battle of Wild Hunt.
They just spawned in one of my gateway systems and I teleported my entire fleet into their main spot before they even got two fleets out of the dimensional anchor oh my God
Since they dont have any Point Defense one should also bring a couple Bomber Strike Crafts. They have a very good range, ignore the enemy shields, do pretty good damage and a huge cloud of Strike Craft always looks good :)
ASpec I recently played and stellaris play through with larger galaxy mod. The mod allowed me to have up 5000 stars and 200 AI empires and it was made for 1.1 version of the game. Basically the unbidden spawned were a regular empire should have spawned at game start. I rush over to see the strength and I was greeted by a fleet of 127K power labeled as "2nd extra dimensional fleet. The portal was only 15 star systems away from home world.
hey Aspec love your work this is LR Captain's older brother, truth is i loaded up and spawned the unbidden on my bros save then just told him it was a glitch thanks to his modding. so im going to look for a nice spot to hide for the next week or so.
I am likely going to lose my best Ironman game with a Hivemind I created because the Unbidden have spawned near my allies, just 6 systems from my home world. I wish they had spawned in the awakened empire that has taken a quarter of the galaxy. The worst thing is me and my allies are the strongest federation (we are the only ones that could compete against the awakened empire), my strongest fleet is 89k (allied fleets are similar), my 3 vassals equal less then 10% of my fleet. The weakest unbidden fleet is 350K (they have 3 of these and a 900K stack). All I can hope for is if they go to war with the awakened empire instead of my federation. Or maybe the other fallen empire next door to me wake up. The word doomed comes to mind ha, guess I should try and get a world on the opposite side of the galaxy some where and hide their till they get wiped out. Great video as always though ASpec, keep it up.
my game where they showed up had all three spawn directly adjacent to each other. they all just fought each other and nothing ever happened. the whole galaxy could just ignore them once I cleaned up their extendes territory. Thus, I ate the galaxy without contest by them.
Huh, to me in my first game they kinda didn't matter. I got a popup that they had appeared only to then get a notification a little while later that they had been annihilated. Never got what the fuzz is about. Though as it turns out, they spawned right next door to a fallen empire. An empire to fanatical pacifists.
Can we have a video for the wraiths? They can be annoying, and I want to know what weapons they use and the best way to counter them. The wiki's only help is that they are weaker at stars of the same color, and says the weapons variate based on the color
So, in my current game, I have the first two Unbidden races and the Scourge. I got lucky and haven't lost a planet yet because they spawned on the other sides of my spiral galaxy but damn. Most of my galaxy is dead now except for a handful of races which have no armies to defend themselves.
I ended these guys in 11 months. I flew my fleet nearby with a gateway. Flew into the spawn system and blew up the portal. Killed 200k fleet power on the way. There was a lucky break tho. Their main 750k fleet flew south and i snuck in behind.
In 2442 i only had a 119K fleet because of constant wars. Then a really strong federation of about 600K waged war on mine ( about 500K and they focused on me so my fleet was immediately destroyed. So we somehow won the war because a FE destroyed their fleet. Then 3 years later the unbidden came and everybody's fleet is destroyed. I have the most with 23K and the unbidden had a total of 556K. Im literally panicking because this was my most successful playthrough
I had a game with them spawning in a neighbouring empire , after I basically closed the border and didn't let them through they just sat on their fat asses and stopped exterminating my enemies .... Then the Scourge appeared and I had new hope of having someone eradicate my opponents ..... Till they threw their fleets one after another at my main battle force that protected my protectorate ... Then a second unbidden spawned with around 14 fleets and lost their AI on the way ... So I did nothing and stopped 3 end game crises .... What a bug fiesta
Aspec, your most recent garbage patch videos aren't in the garbage patch playlist, just as a heads up. also when is the nxt garbage patch video out of curiosity?
I think I broke the Unbidden on PS4! they splashed in Galaxy with 3f 56k, 2f 36k, 2f 25k fleets and I had 2f 28, meat shield CRUISER,BC,AS,AA/DESTROYER,AM/ Corvettes,MB/ and 1f 30k BS Giga/Mac Daddy's! The Unbidden started building space station: S5, 1f 56,35,26,24 defending it! But they leave there rear lines open!? (Trap!?!) Option one: Smash the rock, hope you survive/regroup and continue on against the remaining enemy!? Option two: hit the guts in the rearguard and hope it's not a trap!? Option two results: Space Station S4 + 1fl 56k KIA, S3 + 1fl 36k KIA, S2 + 1fl 26k KIA, Station 1 situation unattainable until S5 and 135k+ turtle death stack moves/dealt with! That was 20+ years ago and nothing, I'm starting to colonize the dead zones left from the AI's I couldn't save! No one would open border to let me support them against the Unbidden! I have 3 Vassals and I can't get a single one to support my fleets, hears the kicker my vassals are all loyal!?
Instead on focusing to deplete shields you can set up your fleet to mostly ignore shield. Arc thrower, AM and Bomber are a pretty effective combination against Unbidden. But don't use torpedoes, missiles mechanics are shit, even in 1.8.
I don’t understand the point of these endgame invasions. It forces you to really only play one way, and that it’s military preparedness. I much more enjoy being a free-trader/researcher in space and I feel like I’m punished for it.
I thank for this info cause when the power surge popped up I just ignored it then these fools appeared and now I'm losing my mind and cause they just put the portal in the middle of my economic sector so I'm f'ed
The Unbidden do seem to be broken. Destroying the anchors and the portals might lead to...nothing. The crisis is still going on despite having destroyed every single ship, station and portal of the Unbidden. It's a bit frustrating; hopefully they'll fix it in 1.8.
I'm having success in holding off their attack fleets but I can't field enough troops to beat them outright at the anchors nevermind the portal it just seems like you can't win
They were kicked out I guess and held a lower form of the shroud. Or they are training to gain access to the shroud but the others wont let them. I really wanna know to but these 2 are my best speculations
Akaboy4life maybe the people they ate aren’t really dead, souls form a barrier to keep the Unbidden out of the shroud. Perhaps, (like Half Life 2) they are trying to get any psionic technologies possible by finding and retro engineering Psi Drives because they can’t do it by themselves. Or also, as they seem to be between transcendence and physical state, maybe in order to go further (live in the shroud) or keep living, they need to consume souls (psionic pops are more nutritious for sure so that’s why they try to find psi drives)
With the older versions of the game with console commands I was actually able to play as the Unbidden I built anchors massacred aliens and fought the Aberrant and Vehement. Shame newer versions don't let me do that anymore.
I was wondering why they had +500% weapon damage. Must be because I didn't even see the crisis strength adjustment. that being said, they haven't really expanded at all; they have like 10 systems in their territory, and they haven't grown at all in like 30 years at least. I wonder why that is. Good for me, whatever the reason, because that means we're all safe :P
I'm sure they are. I'm just hoping that I can get enough fleet power by the time they run out of weed or whatever it is that's making them just sit there. Their smallest fleet has over 280K fleet power (their largest is over a million) and my entire armada has about 140k. I don't know if I just suck, or if it's supposed to be like that, but I have the largest armada in my area of the galaxy, so annexing more planets to get more fleet power shouldn't be an issue.
You know, bombers also obliterate unbidden, seeings as they have 100% shield penetration and unbidden doesn't have any PD, only problem being that they have to get there first. If you're a pacifist, it's probably a good idea to let the unbidden run free and sterilize most of the galaxy, because you can then go and terraform all of the worlds they sterilized and take control of most of the galaxy.
Same, I was sitting around bored thinking about going to war with the Awakened Xenophobes when they spawned and decided to deal with them first. They Opened their Dimensional Portal Right at my Doorstep within spitting distance of my Armada only to quickly get sent back to where they came from
I'd just like to put this quote from the most recent stream here:
"This falen empire over here? It's maybe playing like 4D chess. Me on the otherhand? I'm playing 16D mousetrap."
+Damon M legit
Necroposting here, which stream was this? I need this meme in my life
That's an awesome quote, lol
28D Junior Jumble.
Fallen*
I mean its fine that its not correct but i just noticed it
Unbidden: Finally it’s lunchtime
Abberrant, Vehement, Awakened empires, guardian of the galaxy: I’m about to end this whole guys *lunch*
It's funny cus you're stalin and Russian people don't have lunch
Similar to you in the fact that you interrupted Russia's lunch, for about 2 decades
Unbidden: Lunch time !
You, who is currently researching repeatable tech number 70 for everything at this point and is sitting on multiple 300k fleets: *NOT SO FAST, YOU LITTLE BUGGER!*
I had a game where all three factions appeared and all three factions basically killed themselves and it took care of the problem itself.
Talk about divide and conquer
Except it also had Awakened 3 different Guardians and the last FE awakened to go into war with one of them. Basically greatest 40k roleplay:D
Yes, Rothank, it requires a mod.
Extra dimensional invaders have three factions that spawn as the crisis after a while
yeah, the second and third factions' arrival depends on how much is spread the Unbidden territory
Ive never seen the other 2 factions bc i always try to rush the unbidden anchor asap.
I'm kind of saddened by the introduction of the ability of the anchors to make the portal invincible. It kind of ruins the "our only hope is sending all we have at the portal in a last-ditch suicide mission for the fate of the galaxy" vibe the old system had.
+Andrew Grottle it still exists, you also have to tactically take down the anchors.
@@A_Spec sUIcide Mission, Aw Man.
They arrive faster with excessive Psi use? I guess the Emperor was right
The Astronmicon may have been a giant dinner bell.
Umm another one? Or have I not killed this one?
Yes but also the machine be uprising is a thing. So I ban AI to avoid them.
Jonathan Turull that works? Yes. Machine uprising is the worst. The emperor was right again.
Magnus did nothing wrong
TFW the unbidden spawn in next to "The Core".
Two months later, The "?????!?!??!" Reconquerors Awaken!
Me: Aaaaand they're gone.
What are you talking about ?
@@manofironthathasntturnedcr9817 a fallen empire awakening
When the unbidden arrive you have to play Genocide Bingo.
Rule 1: Don't win Genocide Bingo
Rule 2: DON'T WIN GENOCIDE BINGO
Your ship design and your fleet cap decide if you win it or not.
That's a bingo.
If you have the right technology, you can refit your ships though. When I got the unbidden event recently, I resarched some new tech, and refitted my fleet in order to confront them. I even refitted my fleet a number of times, since I got more technologies over time. I built more ships more or less constantly, and had a rally point set at my main fleet. I finally managed to beat them, before they had managed to spawn any second faction. I guess I was lucky, that they did not spawn next to me.
Does ANYONE get the reference?
exurbia is a helluva drug
Seth Atkinson yes
I like how the spiffing brit and Aspec are sort of working together here. One doing Lore, while the other doing gameplay and mechanics. Pretty neat duo.
Hello starscape dev
How to defeat the Unbidden: DROWN THEM IN CORPSES
How? OPEN FIRE!
I really don't want to be That Guy, but I'm about to be That Guy:
Averages and medians are totally different things, my man :p
There's always a stats person... :x
I had a game where the majority of the galaxy was in good relations with one another, when the unbidden arrived they were evicted within 2 years by the combined might of the entire late game galaxy.
Their fleets may have 70k fleet power or more but then it's 2380 and the unbidden spawn in the middle of my empire with tons of 400k fleets and instantly kill my fleet and the awakened empire in my alliances fleet as well
Yo.. this shit actually works thank you, I beat these assholes with my 1M fleet :b
TheLinkinTALLICA
Me and my 400k fleets in every system
Well it spawns more than 1.2m each fleet for me, so yeah im fcked
Maybe it’s because I scaled up the time period for Beginning, Middle, and End, but I’ve only about 140K and it’s like...2480 (Mind you game end is like 2900) I’ve an incomplete Dyson sphere and about...12 or so planets?
Am I doing something wrong or what?
Their names make a lot of sense unbidden means un-invited. I take it that the unbidden wasn't invited showing their status as an invader. Aberrant means differing from the standard and they are the second extradimensional invaders. Vehement means forceful and it could mean the force of the invaders.
Because of the unbidden almost all factions love me. I took one of the first waves head on and had to jump away to keep what little ship remaining. My outpost world got wrecked and since then I am launching guerilla strikes with long range artillery and bs cruisers with bombers. We almost got the portal destroyed when 4 factions joined in the fight! It was epic! Every faction tried to destroy the portal but the fleets where to many! The level hard is a real challenge but I am still alive. Because of the unbidden and scared for human population to cease to exist I took border planets as future fall out shelters in case my capital gets wrecked. And its just couple jumps away! Building full on stations with defence capabilities and just unlocked the shroud mind to reinforce the fleet. The timing and everything is epic and I love this game!
Did your empire survive
Gabriel87100 judging by his lack of response following his initial post I fear the worst.
Star Trek Fans: The JJ Abrams movies are way too bright!
The Unbidden: Hold my beer.
"Sick-nificantly"! (2:38)
70k power fleet? in my save, when they entered the galaxy was around 400k-450k power fleet, luckly was in a fallen empire.
For me they they spawned in at 134k 3 separate fleets and the main fleet of 349k I retreated to my awakened empires ring world. They are in my federation. When they finally started moving we bootfucked them. I had a 200k power fleet alongside their 2 separate fleets of 157k and 200k
Main fleet 300k smallest fleet 65k medium fleets 100k and spawn inside a fallen Empire
U ARE LUKCU. They killed the fallen empire
I startet a new game
Eemil Miettunen fallen empires only have 200-350k (without defense stations), and they cannot rebuild new fleets
So i was playing a solo game this event happened...portal opens in the middle of my empire a throw one 600k and three 250k fleets at me (at the time my fleet was only 70k) but it also spawned more portals which one opened in the middle of the only fallen empire and immediately killing it. Worst of all the universe just had a galactic wide war which decimated everyone and left none prepared
I found a way to make the Unbidden stuck in the System where they appear from the begin on for ever. You just have to send a single ship or any fleet in the System where they are and wait at the very outer rim. This way they try to defend the portal and won´t move until the ship jumps out or get destroy. That makes them very very controllable and gives you time to build up a fleet and make a strategy. Just make sure that they dont jump back right into your fleet if they are already out of their home System. The faster you are, the better it works.
Also they mostly jump at certain sectors if you use this strategy (Jumping out of the home system, wait until they jump out, and jump in again).
A further advantage is that they wont spawn in many reinforcement fleets.
I've always found the designs of the three factions to be super cool.
DAEMONS OF CHAOS, YOU WILL FIND NO PURCHASE HERE
The Unbidden are awesome, the first few times. I'm glad they made them stop spamming Unbidden at us, it was nice fighting the Prethoryan Scourge, if a little easy. My best memory of the Unbidden is when I was in lead of a massive group of vassals, the Devouring Swarm we had was actually as strong as me fleet power wise. We all actually gathered up in a 16 fleet strong doomstack of doomstacks, ready to destroy the Unbidden in one huge brawl, when suddenly- game crashes. Save corrupted. Me crying. We only saw the first salvo of giga cannons and tachyons firing off when suddenly it did that. It was going to be so beautiful...
The Unbidden actually really helped me in my game. Because of them I was able to more than double my territory and planets without declaring a single war, whilst in a pacifist federation, surrounded by allies.
They spawned in a federation associate's territory in a spot where they'd blocked my expansion. They then killed the technology fallen empire next to me and only managed to destroy one of my systems before I got enough artillery battleships to destroy their smaller fleets and anchors. They had a 250k fleet guarding the portal so I just left them for a while while I expanded around them and restored the worlds and ring worlds they'd destroyed. All I had to do to keep them in check was destroy a 50k fleet every few years.
My first time meeting these boys, I had an excellent time. Spawned right on a fallen empire, with several large vassals between myself and it. They got softened right up while I was on my way, and then I just took and held the portal while the rest of the galaxy was mopped up.
Minor correction: Matter Disintegrators have 50% shield piercing, not shield damage bonus. That means that even when your shields are up 50% of the damage goes through to hull. (It also means they don't shield spread).
When you get to use them they're a solidly mid tier weapon, with the major downside that they have the highest power draw of any weapon for their size, meaning you almost always need to sacrifice armour or shield to run them, and so they're not usually worth the tradeoff.
Also, Unbidden aren't completely stuffed for tracking. Most of their weapons are medium size and have 30 tracking (including that lightning weapon they use, which is not an arc emitter, it's a lowish damage 30 tracking weapon which does not pierce shields but does have 100% AP), and they have tier 4 sensors. (Nothing from combat computer though).
They tend to run very few small weapons though, so if you can really push evasion with eg. a Psychic admiral a corvette swarm would give them problems.
They do have really bad evasion too, even their small ships only have a base evasion of 20%. (Large 15 and Medium 25). Swarm small ships have base 65.
so in your oppinion what is best to counter them? corvettes lmao? :D
Arc Emitters rip their ships to pieces with little effort; 40k fleets of bb equipped with arc emitters will end the event if they spawn near you if you take their fleets one by one.
Arc emitters are actually one of the worst weapons against Unbidden. Arc emitters have very low DPS and Unbidden do not actually have strong shields, armour or any evasion. In other words, all the things arc emitters are supposed to counter. They have lots of hitpoints and no defence. Only about 1/5 of their total health is in shields. If you use XL weapons at all, use Giga Cannons which are many many times better against them than Arc Emitters.
However, because they all orbit you it's better not to use XL weapons at all, just use Kinetic Batteries which can keep up their fire when things drive around them.
All the received wisdom about fighting crises is wrong. Unbidden are not about shields, they have large unprotected health bars. Prethoryn are not all about armour and you don't need flak, their small craft have high evasion and most of your flak shoots down missiles that were going to lose their DPS to overkill anyway. (Fight Prethoryn with large plasma and medium gauss for best effect).
Matter disitigrators are one of the strongest two things you can use, minus counter building. By the time you can kill the unbidden you should be at repeatables, assuming you are well experienced or the unbiddem dosnt spawn in an awakened empire and die instantly. Once ypu are at repeatables you can spam armor tech to make the difference and spam energy weapon tech, which is super effecitient because unlike the other builds arc & disintigrator uses one weapon type
I'm sad that I never got to experience much of the Unbidden cuz the one time they spawned it was at a system where I had my 50k fleet moving over to prepare for some other war, and my 34k fleet wasn't too far away either. So essentially I crushed them at first contact, which is good but I wanted to see chaos :(
If they didn't change the timing fundamentally, you have misunderstood something!
The Unbidden event can trigger after at least 150 years when an empire with at least 10k fleet power researched a Jump Drive (Psi also counts). At this moment a mean_time_to_happen starts to count down, which starts by 500 years and is reduced by 20% when you finish the Wanderlust events and additional 20% when you researched the Psi Jump Drive. There is also a litte randomization in the mean_time_to_happen mechanic which the Wiki only explains as.
"This will add a delay to the event. Once the trigger condition is fulfilled the event will delay itself for a random time around the mean time."
You can think of the mean_time_to_happen as travel time after the Unbidden noticed the Jump Drive Signal until they reached your galaxy.
"Regardless, you're going to be boned" lmao
This video makes me NOOTS moist
I remember the first game I got these guys, I jumped on them instantly and attacked the portal, I lost like half my fleet, but the monsters were vanquished.
This is how my Dragonscale Armor and Psionic Shields will come into use
Ugh. Spawned right next to my home world, I was happily the strongest fleet in my half of the galaxy but still got owned! I’ll know more next time thanks for the vids, you’ve taught me how to actually play & enjoy this game!
Aaahhh, the unbidden, it's actually an event I really want background on, since all of the unbidden factions seems to know each other, have an history, and are competing towards the same goal, it would be nice if you could ally with one of them, becoming their vassal/partner, to help them secure the throne, it would certainly had more flavor than just killing killing and killing with a mega doomstack, which seems to be every last viable end game crisis so far (No, the current AI rebellion is not viable, it's a spaceport sabotage simulator, nothing more, nothing less, and the crisis that is going to replace is the same as the two others : Giant fleets appear, kill everyone, congratulation, your doomstack was the strongest).
P.S : I know this must sound very salty, but I'm just tired that every big event like that just is about how big your fleet is, not about how advanced you are, wether it is in diplomacy, science, psionics, or whatever.
To be honest, the end game events aren't always about the biggest fleets. A smaller one can easily take them on with the right set up and bonuses.
Also, I think if you fend off any of these endgame armies, you should be able to unlock and play AS them in single player.
Last game I was playing as an exterminator AI and by the time these guys spawned I had already wiped out all the other factions and was just waiting for the crisis to start with a massive fleet....also I have been using a mixture of void beams and plasma since early game on most of my fleet. And the portal appeared 2 jumps away from an active gate with 2 hyperlanes, one of which was leading to a dead end system.
I was on their ass and had them boxed in before they could even take one system.
They really did pick the wrong dimension.
As I've never let the Unbidden last for that long for any other faction to spawn, it took me a while to figure out you were saying "Aberrant" and "Vehement." You're pronouncing them like they're some kind of Hindu gods and not English words.
Its odd, the two times they spawned in my games they did so on the opposite side of the galaxy, yet after 50 years of in game time they still didn't get those 15%.
It’s pretty obvious.
"The extradimensional invaders will get reinforcements a lot faster than you can build them."
Me: laughs in Mega Shipyard
*Cries in not having expansion*
Also, I know it’s weird, but do the unbidden have like, signs in a campaign? Like glowing science ship, or something?
Just asking...cause me and another empire both have jump drives. And I MAAAY have stolen the tech for strategic deployment reasons...
Also uses juggernaut range bonus so their fleets never make it into combat range
@@davidthorp01 i know its kate hahah but if you have a glowing ship its a sign that the unbidden are just around the corner i thinkk
Haha. Yes. I also took over an awakened empires mega shipyard. So i have 40 ship yards!! 🦵🏻
Even better: laughs in gigastructural engineering with mega ship yard as a bonus.
The first time I encountered these, I was a fanatic militarist spiritualist empire known as the Klauth'Antu hierarchy. They spawned in my plant neighbours right when I was testing my new juggernaut on their military. I had psi jump drives, and their anchor was undefended.
My military was devastated when their fleets returned to the anchorless system. But it was glorious.
Sadly they had no skulls or blood.
The outro is cut xD
lol, I just noticed.
no worries, it's just a small detail
Cut outro or not, I will of course take good care of myself and Eej.
i almost thought it was a "noot"
Woah, someone actually knows something I did? =s
Small world...
Bro they spawned at the worst time, they spawned in right after i finished a territory war and now im pinned down by a fleet of 160k💀 ive tried to fight it but i only managed to bring it down to 90k before my fleet was obliterated. Im weeping in the corner 😭
I´m glad i triggered a war in the Heavens before the Unbidden came and lucky me the portal just spwaned next to the Awakened Empire and only two planets were lost.
When you dig a 3 years old vid' to have the unbidden screen and advance in your modding x) Thx !
in my game unbidden came right in the middle of a fallen empire.
Fallen empire awakened and destroyed it by focusing all fleets to its wormhole.
I just had a game where the unbidden appeared in the L-gate core system and during a war in heaven. It was a slaughter
I've never defeated the Unbidden through brute force. Instead, I've used a bait strategy. It's basically surrounding the final system where they have the portal with 2 fleets, one divertion, one real. The divertion fleet needs to have good evasion, and get to the system from the far end of the portal. All unbidden there will fly to this fleet. Wait as much as you can, and when they engage, fly in with the real fleet from the portal side. This fleet should try to maximize damage to the portal. The time it takes for the ubidden fleets to defeat the diversion and fly back OR for the other unbidden fleets in different systems to get there is how long you get to destroy the portal.
I believe it's easier to pull off then brute force your way into the portal.
The unbidden came, all of them, while the prethoryn were already there.
How to not start a Unbidden crisis event or destroy it 101 step.1 research jump drives to 70% ( this is for step 3) step.2 get powerful fleets and tech and make sure you are peeped step.3 Research jump drives step.4 rush to where the unbidden spawn and crush them step.5 you have stoped the unbidden
The first I came into contact with I didn't realize the threat if only I had known
Fighting the unbidden is like fighting the Soviet union
Unbidden arrived in a system with pulsar that was located right near my gate. Gate that was connected to every main fleet base.
Guess what happened like... the second they entered the Galaxy.
Be me: Berly holding back 4 separate empires, have literally one old battleship on my capital, unbidden portal opens on my capital.....
Be me: have a peace time, some boons from the Shroud for maneuverability and speed, as well as Juggernaut.
And watch Unbidden arrive in a pulsar system near my gate on the border. Gate leading to every single main fleet base.
@@ГригорийГ-ч4н well there goes that peace.
@@anarchyandempires5452
"So you came here to feast. You came here looking for a prey, for people too weak to protect themselfs. Ha! You came to the wrong dimension, xenos. Now pray to your alien gods to have mercy on you, for we will not!"
- Admiral Vyacheslav Zhirov at the beginning of Battle of Wild Hunt.
@@ГригорийГ-ч4н yeah mine was more like " this is the USS Texas .....command yeah we're kind of f*****ed."
They just spawned in one of my gateway systems and I teleported my entire fleet into their main spot before they even got two fleets out of the dimensional anchor oh my God
Since they dont have any Point Defense one should also bring a couple Bomber Strike Crafts. They have a very good range, ignore the enemy shields, do pretty good damage and a huge cloud of Strike Craft always looks good :)
I have ships perfect for demolishing unbiddenmy titans eat them for breakfast
The Unbidden just spawned right in the middle of an Awakened Empire on my playthrough. Feelsgoodman?
The unbidden: Lunch time !
The awakened empire: *ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT ?*
ASpec I recently played and stellaris play through with larger galaxy mod. The mod allowed me to have up 5000 stars and 200 AI empires and it was made for 1.1 version of the game. Basically the unbidden spawned were a regular empire should have spawned at game start. I rush over to see the strength and I was greeted by a fleet of 127K power labeled as "2nd extra dimensional fleet. The portal was only 15 star systems away from home world.
+LR captain well, ripperoni then
hey Aspec love your work this is LR Captain's older brother, truth is i loaded up and spawned the unbidden on my bros save then just told him it was a glitch thanks to his modding. so im going to look for a nice spot to hide for the next week or so.
is this meant to embarrass me. Because all you did is just show people how much of an a## you are. sorry about this ASpec.
Currently playing a game where I had the Unbidden spawn 2 years after I researched Hyperdrive III...
Ouch; how’d it go?
I managed to break their portal before they even built a single anchor
"Sheat system!" What a fitting name.
I am likely going to lose my best Ironman game with a Hivemind I created because the Unbidden have spawned near my allies, just 6 systems from my home world. I wish they had spawned in the awakened empire that has taken a quarter of the galaxy.
The worst thing is me and my allies are the strongest federation (we are the only ones that could compete against the awakened empire), my strongest fleet is 89k (allied fleets are similar), my 3 vassals equal less then 10% of my fleet. The weakest unbidden fleet is 350K (they have 3 of these and a 900K stack). All I can hope for is if they go to war with the awakened empire instead of my federation. Or maybe the other fallen empire next door to me wake up.
The word doomed comes to mind ha, guess I should try and get a world on the opposite side of the galaxy some where and hide their till they get wiped out.
Great video as always though ASpec, keep it up.
The unbidden will spawn after 3000 years without any jump drives
The planet at 2:52 looks like it has a sad face made of city lights on it.
my game where they showed up had all three spawn directly adjacent to each other. they all just fought each other and nothing ever happened. the whole galaxy could just ignore them once I cleaned up their extendes territory. Thus, I ate the galaxy without contest by them.
Huh, to me in my first game they kinda didn't matter. I got a popup that they had appeared only to then get a notification a little while later that they had been annihilated. Never got what the fuzz is about. Though as it turns out, they spawned right next door to a fallen empire. An empire to fanatical pacifists.
imagine you could ally yourself with the Green Unbidden faction
Can we have a video for the wraiths? They can be annoying, and I want to know what weapons they use and the best way to counter them. The wiki's only help is that they are weaker at stars of the same color, and says the weapons variate based on the color
So, in my current game, I have the first two Unbidden races and the Scourge. I got lucky and haven't lost a planet yet because they spawned on the other sides of my spiral galaxy but damn. Most of my galaxy is dead now except for a handful of races which have no armies to defend themselves.
The Combine have arrived
The Unbidden really look like the Nomads from the game Freelancer.
I had them spawn in the middle of The War in Heaven and so the awoken empire just destroyed them instantly
May I ask you to create a proper "Unbidden vs The End Of Cycle" vid?
I ended these guys in 11 months.
I flew my fleet nearby with a gateway. Flew into the spawn system and blew up the portal.
Killed 200k fleet power on the way.
There was a lucky break tho. Their main 750k fleet flew south and i snuck in behind.
In 2442 i only had a 119K fleet because of constant wars. Then a really strong federation of about 600K waged war on mine ( about 500K and they focused on me so my fleet was immediately destroyed. So we somehow won the war because a FE destroyed their fleet. Then 3 years later the unbidden came and everybody's fleet is destroyed. I have the most with 23K and the unbidden had a total of 556K. Im literally panicking because this was my most successful playthrough
The Unbidden: "Tag! Your It!!" *Sterilizes your entire fucking planet*
Me;*Is still a weak as empire*"Why......"
One of the flees that spawned in my game Was 600k fleetpower
I had the unbidden spawn right next to my home system on my 'Necron' playthrough, was quite sad :c
+Questionable Object sadface
I had a game with them spawning in a neighbouring empire , after I basically closed the border and didn't let them through they just sat on their fat asses and stopped exterminating my enemies .... Then the Scourge appeared and I had new hope of having someone eradicate my opponents ..... Till they threw their fleets one after another at my main battle force that protected my protectorate ... Then a second unbidden spawned with around 14 fleets and lost their AI on the way ... So I did nothing and stopped 3 end game crises .... What a bug fiesta
"Their matter disintegrators have low tracking"
So, best tactic is to spam corvettes with swarm computers and afterburners? Got it.
This sounds like Chaos! And Chaos is heresy!
When they showed up in my capitol system they had 3 fleets at 110K power and 1 at 25k
Aspec, your most recent garbage patch videos aren't in the garbage patch playlist, just as a heads up.
also when is the nxt garbage patch video out of curiosity?
devin59320 watch his "Live Garbage" stream
*sigh* my ADD doesnt really let me watch a stream for very long sadly, if at all. Thnx for the heads up at least :-)
devin59320 watch it in portions
I think I broke the Unbidden on PS4! they splashed in Galaxy with 3f 56k, 2f 36k, 2f 25k fleets and I had 2f 28, meat shield CRUISER,BC,AS,AA/DESTROYER,AM/ Corvettes,MB/ and 1f 30k BS Giga/Mac Daddy's! The Unbidden started building space station: S5, 1f 56,35,26,24 defending it! But they leave there rear lines open!? (Trap!?!) Option one: Smash the rock, hope you survive/regroup and continue on against the remaining enemy!? Option two: hit the guts in the rearguard and hope it's not a trap!?
Option two results: Space Station S4 + 1fl 56k KIA, S3 + 1fl 36k KIA,
S2 + 1fl 26k KIA, Station 1 situation unattainable until S5 and 135k+ turtle death stack moves/dealt with! That was 20+ years ago and nothing, I'm starting to colonize the dead zones left from the AI's I couldn't save! No one would open border to let me support them against the Unbidden! I have 3 Vassals and I can't get a single one to support my fleets, hears the kicker my vassals are all loyal!?
Instead on focusing to deplete shields you can set up your fleet to mostly ignore shield.
Arc thrower, AM and Bomber are a pretty effective combination against Unbidden.
But don't use torpedoes, missiles mechanics are shit, even in 1.8.
I don’t understand the point of these endgame invasions.
It forces you to really only play one way, and that it’s military preparedness.
I much more enjoy being a free-trader/researcher in space and I feel like I’m punished for it.
I thank for this info cause when the power surge popped up I just ignored it then these fools appeared and now I'm losing my mind and cause they just put the portal in the middle of my economic sector so I'm f'ed
The Unbidden do seem to be broken. Destroying the anchors and the portals might lead to...nothing. The crisis is still going on despite having destroyed every single ship, station and portal of the Unbidden. It's a bit frustrating; hopefully they'll fix it in 1.8.
you need to defeat ther flleets after thath
So when can we expect Update 1.8 to come out? I want to fight the new hellish crisis's and see who comes out on top.
4 fleets!? They entered my game with 49!
Its the Recent Edition why Shouldn't it
Do:
Amass fleets with right build
Don't:
Be me and try to siege the unbidden
Can you do a video on the wanderlust event?
Due to how rare it is I'm sure only a few have encountered it
The ending sounds like you said,"And of course Ea." Or let me fill in,"And of course eat shit!" XD
I'm having success in holding off their attack fleets but I can't field enough troops to beat them outright at the anchors nevermind the portal it just seems like you can't win
I had them spawn with a fleet of over 600k, I only had around 50k.
This event pop the in the 8 hour stream that happen a few hours ago
BUT WHAT IS THEIR CONNECTION TO THE SHROUD I NEED TO KNOW
They were kicked out I guess and held a lower form of the shroud. Or they are training to gain access to the shroud but the others wont let them. I really wanna know to but these 2 are my best speculations
Akaboy4life maybe the people they ate aren’t really dead, souls form a barrier to keep the Unbidden out of the shroud.
Perhaps, (like Half Life 2) they are trying to get any psionic technologies possible by finding and retro engineering Psi Drives because they can’t do it by themselves.
Or also, as they seem to be between transcendence and physical state, maybe in order to go further (live in the shroud) or keep living, they need to consume souls (psionic pops are more nutritious for sure so that’s why they try to find psi drives)
With the older versions of the game with console commands I was actually able to play as the Unbidden I built anchors massacred aliens and fought the Aberrant and Vehement. Shame newer versions don't let me do that anymore.
I was wondering why they had +500% weapon damage. Must be because I didn't even see the crisis strength adjustment. that being said, they haven't really expanded at all; they have like 10 systems in their territory, and they haven't grown at all in like 30 years at least. I wonder why that is. Good for me, whatever the reason, because that means we're all safe :P
Oh they're coming, don't you worry about that.
I'm sure they are. I'm just hoping that I can get enough fleet power by the time they run out of weed or whatever it is that's making them just sit there. Their smallest fleet has over 280K fleet power (their largest is over a million) and my entire armada has about 140k. I don't know if I just suck, or if it's supposed to be like that, but I have the largest armada in my area of the galaxy, so annexing more planets to get more fleet power shouldn't be an issue.
Freelancer Nomads.
Have you uploaded a video that explains the Prethoryn Scourge? I heard that if you have the spiritualist ascension you can speak with them.
+Alduin the Anti-Dragonborn yes but it hasn't been updated in a while
You know, bombers also obliterate unbidden, seeings as they have 100% shield penetration and unbidden doesn't have any PD, only problem being that they have to get there first.
If you're a pacifist, it's probably a good idea to let the unbidden run free and sterilize most of the galaxy, because you can then go and terraform all of the worlds they sterilized and take control of most of the galaxy.
I had a game where they spawned right above my fallen empire worlds far away from my fleet and they destroyed them, it was very sad
If they spawn near a FE or AE they never amount to anything ever.
So many mechanics... now I'm sad that I defeat them 5 days after they spawn
Same, I was sitting around bored thinking about going to war with the Awakened Xenophobes when they spawned and decided to deal with them first. They Opened their Dimensional Portal Right at my Doorstep within spitting distance of my Armada only to quickly get sent back to where they came from