No, a Study Didn't Prove Mario Treats Depression

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
  • A scientific study published earlier this year has gained a lot of attention this week amid claims that it proves Mario Odyssey can treat symptoms of depression. Some outlets are claiming that Mario can reduce symptoms of depression by nearly 50%. These claims are not entirely accurate.
    Yes, a small, preliminary study has found that brain training in a digital 3D space can help with some symptoms of depression in a limited capacity under very specific circumstances, and in addition to other, more traditional forms of medical treatment.
    However, as the authors of this study point out themselves, their methodology is not particularly reliable. According to their results, playing Mario improves mood... but so does NOT playing Mario. What's more, Mario Odyssey is not, according to thr study's results, more effective at brain training for patients with depression than other forms of mental exercise.
    While the study is by no means useless, it's unhelpful to report that Mario is a proven treatment for depression. This is a case where believing everything you read on the internet means only getting half the story.
    Link to the paper for your own research:
    www.frontiersin.org/articles/...
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Комментарии • 65

  • @MisteRRYouTuby
    @MisteRRYouTuby 5 месяцев назад +89

    The moral of the story: It will take more than a video game to tackle mental illnesses and challenges. Be kind and also, seek help.

    • @thedraftingax5963
      @thedraftingax5963 5 месяцев назад +2

      Facts! I asked my mom if she could schedule an appointment for me to see a therapist to help control my anger issues, and fix, and help with my mental health and all the problems I'm going through! She said she would, and it would help me, where I don't have to deal with any of my problems and negative mental health later on in life!

    • @GVTheRedStar
      @GVTheRedStar 5 месяцев назад

      I hope all turns out well for you in the future!@@thedraftingax5963

  • @phantomstrider
    @phantomstrider 5 месяцев назад +13

    When I did my psychology major, my biggest frustration was our often lack of ability to find dependent biological variables beyond "self assessment." A doctor's study on blood levels can give clear results with blood tests. But mood is incredibly difficult to measure. In this study, you could call the results pretty useless given it wasn't a blinded-study. So as you say, each person would be aware they were taking affirmative action towards their depression, skewing the results with placebo. Articles like this can also end up meaning people take psychology less seriously as a profession. And may end up taking professional help less seriously too if the internet has told them a psychologist is going to tell them to play Mario.

  • @JJ_R
    @JJ_R 5 месяцев назад +64

    If Mario could actually help with/cure depression, hundreds of thousands of therapists would be out of a job, as well as all of their staffs.

    • @Veins1
      @Veins1 5 месяцев назад +2

      Imagine if this is a conspiracy by big pharma. They misinform us about games so that they can keep their jobs! :P

    • @thedraftingax5963
      @thedraftingax5963 5 месяцев назад +4

      True

    • @foursidekm
      @foursidekm 5 месяцев назад +3

      I mean it can definitely help with depression, right. cure not so much

  • @Lunasquidd
    @Lunasquidd 5 месяцев назад +15

    The first thing I learned when I took a psychology class is that nothing is proven in psychology.

  • @franciscor390
    @franciscor390 5 месяцев назад +19

    While i can definitely see where the study is able to highlight how a challenge + visually uplifting components could work their magic, the mainstream media have a tendency to extract the wrong lessons.

  • @4daptability991
    @4daptability991 5 месяцев назад +10

    I participated in a Nintendo survey about Animal Crossing: New Horizons as benefiting mental health. The questions were incredibly loaded and it was clearly obvious they wanted the 'blessing' of social science. Small preliminary studies and large studies are incapable of gathering scientific knowledge because they assume far too much control over their subjects and fit sentient beings into the rigid, natural scientific frameworks. They were great for studying chemicals and biology, but cannot be adopted by social scientists for the same effect.

    • @VideoGameStoryTime
      @VideoGameStoryTime  5 месяцев назад +4

      That's so weird, I wonder what ever happened to that study? But it does raise a good point: it's often easy for these kind of studies to get the answers they're looking for by phrasing their questions in a certain way

    • @Ijustwatchthevids
      @Ijustwatchthevids 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@VideoGameStoryTime That's called survey bias. It's a common thing with studies invested by corporations that want a specific result. That's why it's important to look at who's actually paying for the study.

  • @TheRealBatabii
    @TheRealBatabii 5 месяцев назад +9

    It's amusing hearing him continually say "computer game" instead of "video game".

    • @VideoGameStoryTime
      @VideoGameStoryTime  5 месяцев назад +4

      It's British vernacular from a certain generation, when I was young all games were computer games, that was just the word for them 🤷‍♀️

    • @Ijustwatchthevids
      @Ijustwatchthevids 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@VideoGameStoryTime Technically, a console is a type of computer :>

  • @therealseanw.stewart2071
    @therealseanw.stewart2071 5 месяцев назад +26

    I thought that sounded like BS right off the bat. It will take a lot more than just Mario Odyssey to even put a dent in the crushing weight of my depression.

  • @TheGrrf
    @TheGrrf 5 месяцев назад +22

    But mario goes wahoo

    • @VideoGameStoryTime
      @VideoGameStoryTime  5 месяцев назад +16

      Wowie Zowie

    • @BlueToadFan913
      @BlueToadFan913 5 месяцев назад +7

      No, obviously Mario goes “Gotta Go Fast!”

    • @supersonic1991
      @supersonic1991 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@BlueToadFan913No that’s Kirby, Mario goes “Waka Waka”

    • @BlueToadFan913
      @BlueToadFan913 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@supersonic1991 no, that’s Mega Man, Mario goes “Well excuuuuuuuuuuse me, princess!”

    • @GamepadStudios
      @GamepadStudios 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@BlueToadFan913What? No, Doomguy says that. Mario goes "Poyo!"

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM 5 месяцев назад +2

    I saw the gamexplain title and just kept scrolling. Basic 101 when reporting scientific studies, never talk like you're 100% sure anything's proven.
    As an aside, you have no idea how happy and nostalgic the music in this video has made me, damn Overclocked Remixes was a vibe

  • @MartKart8
    @MartKart8 5 месяцев назад +4

    Thumb nail should of been Doctor Mario with his eyes far apart.
    The definition of Escapism is...
    the tendency to seek distraction and relief from unpleasant realities, especially by seeking entertainment or engaging in fantasy:
    "virtual reality offers a form of escapism"

  • @DeltaFrazzle
    @DeltaFrazzle 5 месяцев назад +19

    it is so hilarious that this video was made, because i distinctly remember being sad that i couldnt enjoy mario odyssey to the fullest when i first bought because of my awful depression at the time lmao. and i know it was depression, because i can vividly remember what it feels like to enjoy a game without a worry in the world. its true some games did ease my depression, but during my time with odyssey, i couldnt get immersed in the magic. this is not to say the game was bad, far from it, please dont misinterpret that. i was just in particularly bad spot during that time, and surprise surprise games dont magically make you not depressed anymore.

    • @VideoGameStoryTime
      @VideoGameStoryTime  5 месяцев назад +6

      I'm really sorry that you had that experience with Odyssey at first, I can absolutely relate to just not being able to enjoy something you think you ought to love. I hope you're feeling better now, and that you've been able to get more out of the game since then ❤️

  • @youtubeuniversity3638
    @youtubeuniversity3638 5 месяцев назад +2

    15:47 Explaining all the issues with your study feels like a good way to communicate quickly to funding sources exactly what the money you are asking for is gonna be used to improve about what you're doing.

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is all well and good, but I'm far more interested in knowing if Mario himself suffers from depression.

  • @trashcatlinol
    @trashcatlinol 5 месяцев назад +1

    I can believe it. Mario didn't make the abuse go away, but it did make it easier to dissociate.

  • @masedaace5473
    @masedaace5473 5 месяцев назад +3

    What are you talking about? Mario cures my depression every time I play a round of my favorite games. No matter how rough of a day I've ever had gets turned around quickly whenever I fire up Mario 3, Galaxy, Wonder, Odyssey, any of them really.

  • @ryanhodgson8676
    @ryanhodgson8676 5 месяцев назад +5

    I hope this video does well. That would be the moral victory of facts and reason over clickbait pseudoscience.

  • @rainbowspongebob
    @rainbowspongebob 5 месяцев назад +2

    Mario’s gonna get his therapy card revoked wit this one🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @Mrnotpib
    @Mrnotpib 5 месяцев назад +1

    VGST: Makes video about 3D, happy Mario Game treating depression.
    Also VGST: {Uses music from 2D Sonic Game}

  • @Milkmanrules1032
    @Milkmanrules1032 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Internet seems to exaggerate things a lot it seems.

  • @ChadWSmith
    @ChadWSmith 5 месяцев назад

    "You can't believe everything you read on the Internet." - Abraham Lincoln, Zombie Slayer, 1532

  • @TheEbrithil2
    @TheEbrithil2 5 месяцев назад

    This video is so important for so much more than just this one news story

  • @poyoonthewii8907
    @poyoonthewii8907 5 месяцев назад +2

    It doesn't cure depression, it reduces it but i feel that can happen with every game

  • @OrdonWolf
    @OrdonWolf 5 месяцев назад

    When I saw the GE video I immediately thought the sample size and duration of the study were far too small to be proof of anything, hearing them report on this without pointing out the questionable methodology and ending the video with "there you have it" as if the study were in any way conclusive made me want to scream at the monitor smh.

  • @ecocodex4431
    @ecocodex4431 5 месяцев назад

    7:45 What song is that? Sounds so familiar but I can't put my finger on it...

    • @VideoGameStoryTime
      @VideoGameStoryTime  5 месяцев назад

      All the music for this video came from the OCremix album Speed of Sound, which remixes Sonic 1 music. Not relevant to Mario, but I just really like the album, so I used it anyway

  • @BomberDuck
    @BomberDuck 4 месяца назад

    I knew replaying mario Odyssey wasn't helpful, it's painfully boring to play it after the first time

  • @joyeeverett6196
    @joyeeverett6196 5 месяцев назад

    It’s different to call it a treatment compared to calling it therapeutic in general.

  • @dvdai1206
    @dvdai1206 5 месяцев назад

    great work on the video

  • @minecrafter3448
    @minecrafter3448 5 месяцев назад

    Moral: Mario odyssey is slightly more effective at curing a single symptom of depression than just waiting it out.

  • @youtubeuniversity3638
    @youtubeuniversity3638 5 месяцев назад

    At least it didn't say "cures"...

  • @supersonic1991
    @supersonic1991 5 месяцев назад +7

    He cures _my_ depression. 🥹

  • @fhjunior6183
    @fhjunior6183 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the vid

  • @TheOrian34
    @TheOrian34 5 месяцев назад

    I'd be more interested in a study that tests it with Dark Souls.

  • @treenhintsin
    @treenhintsin 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yes it did

  • @SofieArts
    @SofieArts 4 месяца назад

    I mean, did anyone say it *cures* it?

  • @JustJulyo
    @JustJulyo 5 месяцев назад

    I'll still keep playing Mario Odyssey

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 5 месяцев назад

    2:30 I watch GameXplain.

  • @bablo3055
    @bablo3055 5 месяцев назад

    It treated me

  • @Avaitor_YT
    @Avaitor_YT 5 месяцев назад

    Hahaha we know

  • @Avaitor_YT
    @Avaitor_YT 5 месяцев назад

    Hahaha we know