Mipa Epoxy Sealer And Wet On Wet High Build Primer On A Restoration Job
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Looks spot on,as all your jobs do. Please do not feel the need to explain your reasoning for your work, most subscriber's come here to watch your experience and see how it's professionally done in the real world. 👍
Thanks buddy and i know you guys do just really felt I had to get it off my chest lol
I'm a DIY painter and this has got to be one of the best channels to learn from hands down. And because of tony I'm now doing painting/ bodywork for a land rover specialist as a side job. So for that I thank you tony 🙏
That is awesome buddy honestly so glad the channel has helped you in such a great way
Big thanks for doing this Tony as I now have a better understanding of epoxy primer and it's uses. Saying that I have seen people lay their basecoat straight over WoW epoxy but I didn't think you could do that unless their are some that you can. You have put a lot work into this one mate and it's looking great so far. 🤗👍
The people that comment on here saying you don't know what you are doing or that you are a wannabe painter are themselves either jealous or have no idea where to start on a job like this. These nay sayers are just armchair painters who have watched some car restoration shows on the TV and think they are experts and know jack💩 about it 😁😂
Lol very true words my friend there
cracking job mate and dont worry about the haters you cant please everyone and they probably dont run there own shops and dont have a clue we would all love to do everything by the book its just not the real world chin up and keep on going 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
Thanks man and very true mate stuff can’t always be done the way we’d like but that’s what makes us good at what we do like that bonnet you did for your mate you’d have loved to do it one way but bossed it in another it’s part of the trade
LIke the wet on wet process. I do that with a paint manufacturer here in the US. Tamco has some products like that. They have a single stage urethane that you can wet on wet clear on flash. Really nice for having more on there to buff. Great for show car or home job where you will need to color sand and buff.
Thanks for the info thats an awesome way to be able to do it mate
Fantastic job Tony, don't worry about the hate comments mate, they are just jealous that they don't get to do this kind of work. Not every paint job needs to be bare metal respray.
Cheers mick and yeah there’s always the small few
Listened to you talking about some of the negative people making comments. I am a diy restorer. I own 10 classic cars and repair them as a hobby.
I am a time served Plumber with over 40 years experience. I can honestly say that if you put two Plumbers on the same job with identical tools and materials. They would both have their own way of doing it.
I think a good tradesman is defined by his ability and his willingness to learn and adapt to new challenges.
From what I have seen of your work you should be proud of the results you have achieved. You are obviously doing the best you can within the specification set for you by the customer.
Maybe some of these so called experts should show some of their work and put it up for scrutiny.
I think as long as you can walk away from a finished job, be proud to put your name to it and happy that you have done your best. I do not think you will ever have a problem.
Enjoying your channel
Hi jack interesting read that and I totally agree with you there on every point mate there’s more than one way to skin a car as they say and it’s true in every part of life mate , glad your enjoying the channel too mate Thankyou
Great work. Ignore the head polishers who criticise you. You present yourself in an intelligent, straight forward way, with great knowledge. Keep it up!
Thanks man that’s all I ever try to do mate hope you enjoyed the video
@@TonysRefinishingTV I have a 71 bay. It had a bare metal job and I know its not easy job. 👍
They never are mate just for the huge area you have to handle
Agree 💯👍 I fixing to repaint my 1996 truck and it be done on the cheep budget but will be the best I can do and will definitely be a improvement over its current condition!
Good luck!
Looking good tony
How can people say your a wannabee painter 🤣🤣 they having a laugh 🤣🤣
Well yano man just little old me on my shed lol 😂
Great advice about the real world. Just did a motorcycle spider front sub-frame with nautical epoxy primer from Titan (probably 1/3 of the cost of MIPA's). Very very thick, used a 2 mm Iwata and was still difficult to flow. 3 hours under ambient temperature and then 1 full hour under the IR light. The primer was still not fully cured. Followed this by a direct gloss black paint and repeated the IR light. One week later it's rock hard. Really successful process, almost wet-on-wet. Surface is thick, chunky looking textured, but for a motorcycle sub-frame it looks sturdy.
Interesting and fascinating insight into modern prep and painting procedures. Really well explained
No matter what video is put on RUclips you'll get the sad people that are negative just for the hell of it. Love your video's BTW.
Thanks man and yeah you do mate there will always be the few no matter what
Good video and well explained. You're 100% correct with your explanation of real world business. Keep it up.
Thanks Dan
Looks amazing tony and for anyone to try and dismiss you for the work you do are not worth having as viewers learned more watching you as a diy painter doing small jobs on my own cars and familys 💯💯💯💯👏👏👏👏👏👏well done and continue to keep it up tony
Thanks David abs well keep smashing it mate and uploading while we have awesome guys like yourself following our journey
Good work mate , keep doing what you do, I've been doing it for 33 years now 😲 and still enjoy what I do 👍
Yeah man I’m 20 years in now and love it lol
Hi Tony, I have put a new heritage roof panel on my MGB GT, and i have ordered 1ltr Nipa wet on wet. I already have activater it's not Mipa will it still work ?
Hi Tony. What ratio did you mix your wet on wet high build primer at and howmuch thinners?
Hi, Great video. Lots to learn. I am doing a similar job on a 73 charger, have blocked the whole car, some small areas have gone to bare metal on edges and the odd 50p size meta exposure on some panels.
I am using a zinc spray can primer to seal the bare metal areas. My question is, is the epoxy necessary, or can I just use a high build primer and then paint? Advice appreciated.
Great channel and great advice Tony. 👍
Great vid, exactly what i was looking for, thanks! About to have a go at wet on wet for first time. I was surprised you left it for an hour before the hi build. Is that because epoxy takes longer to cure than paint? I was going to wait 20 mins in an unheated booth, sounds like that will cause problems.
Great job friend... I use every day mipa 4:1 acryfiller and epoxy on big job's... I recently have my solvent based and single stage Mipa mixing system... Mipa it's a great company!
I have to say I’m a fan of a few of there products mate this epoxy for sure
Love watching a skilled man at work . Nearly done now keep up the high standards.
Thanks man and we will
Tony, today is the first time I have seen one of your videos and like the way you add all the details as you go along, I totally agree with you regarding not stripping the paint to bare metal, particularly as modern day 2 pack sealers are so effective and sandable and stripping to bare metal is not going to make any big if any difference in the finished job. Looking forward see seeing your other videos and learning from them, many thanks.
Thanks Stephen and welcome to the Chanel
Great job Tony love the old vw bus alot of work there 👏 but you have smashed it 💪💪
Thanks man
Learning and satisfying all in a few video series; .nice!! Thanks for posting your work and advisories!!
Your very welcome mate thanks for watching
Love your approach and attitude to the so called professionals. Maybe just sour grapes, maybe they thought that they were good until they viewed your productions. Everyone does the same job in very different ways, take a very different approach. Maybe their just afraid to learn new. Sound very sad people. I worked in Bio-Medical research and development for 13 years, and to get the job I bet 14 University degree honour's holders in Bio Medical Research, something that I was not qualified in. 13 years I only left because Meridian USA took over. I then went into vehicle repair. I'm more than delighted to learn something new every day. So thank you. We all open to some kind of criticism no-one is perfect. But hey! if you haven't got something nice to say, best say nothing no need for insults. Great work, keep it coming there are plenty waiting for the next production.
Haha thanks man and exactly bud if you don’t like something move on there’s no need to be an idiot about stuff , and same for me I love learning new stuff
Immaculate work 👌🏻👍🏻
I think you are a very good painter and body man good job mate
Thanks buddy
Hi there. Could I ask which Mipa 4:1 high build that you used please as there seem to be 2 different ones available.
I’m doing a Range Rover classic which is a mix of ally and steel panels and I’ve done Mipa EP first then plan to do the filler work then seal again with Mipa EP, then high build then Mipa EP again and then Mipa 2k top coat
Exactly the sensible approach.
Thanks Richard
Thanks for this video, copied your example at home for a DIY job and it worked a treat.
Brilliant Darren glad it went well for you
Would you recommend epoxy sealer over New fender with ecoat. Then base and clear.
Do what you can, with what you’ve got in the budget 💯👍🇺🇸
exactly
You are absolutely right, it´s a matter to the budget always.
Exactly Tom
Very nice paintjob and a cool car...👍😃
Thanks Micheal
I have some Chameleon products that have an epoxy with a urethane primer that you put on like that. great way to get great adhesion and still have a sand able product on the top. I also use a product that is a urethane encaplulater. has really good adhesion and rust encapsulation. Not recommended for heavy rust but if there is minor sanded and treated rust it will hold out for many years.
Good to know mate
Love it Tony you keep teaching and I'll keep learning thanks
Thanks Glenn great to have guys like yourself here with us mate
Hi mate, I'm a bit curious as to why you've epoxied this as its not been stripped and to bare metal? Whats your method behind it as being a painter myself and from my knowledge of products id personally only use epoxy over bare metal before filler then high build?
- I'm not here saying you're wrong by the way genuinely interested as I may learn something new
*disclaimer* not watched all the way through yet so if you have said in the video then my bad lol
lol no problem at all man take a look at the video i did first on this where we just shot epoxy on the van over the old paint ect and i explained why in detail in that
It’s brilliant thanks Tony
Going get some mipa primer and multi mix
Top Job. Don't worry mate about muppets. I am currently with the same situations that I cannot afford full restoration so will do exactly the same way. Thanks for all videos. Really helps 👍👍👍
lol i dont mate they just rib me the wrong way sometimes lol
Hi Tony,
Apologies for dragging you back to this vid but everytime I watch it I learn something new. Can't remember if I mentioned it but I ripped all the rot out of my T4 and did a 'first aid' respray under a 9x9 gazebo....using Mipa products.
I accidentally did the wet on wet technique around the window shut as I only had one gun I had to thin the epoxy right down.....went on like a dream.
Question: I plan to do pretty much the same thing you've done to the camper however my bus has quite a few layers of paint on it now.
I want to take it all back to primer (ish), which I know is going to mean shed-loads of work. Should I convert a grinder to a soft backed sander and smash it with 150 discs or would you recommend another approach.
Love the info you put out Tony......really appreciated.
Honestly buddy you’ll probably be faster paint stripping it back than sanding it’ll take weeks to sand it all back that far if there’s a lot of layers
@@TonysRefinishingTV Hi and thanks for taking the time to get back. I had a hunch you might say that. What's the score when the paint stripper hits filler or is a case of removing everything , filler and all? (Nkt that there's much filler at all...most of the panels are new).
Ta
Ideally mate just take the lot off tbh
Great work as always! That's a lot of work that's why the body shops doesn't like to work with the classic cars so they want the easy and fast money with cars insurance.
By the way tony!did you know if pmp supplies is going to be back in bussines?they had a very good prices and too many limited edition spray guns i know there is another sponsor now but they don't have sagolas and many other spray guns.
Hey mate and thanks , it’s the same guys buddy as before just a new name mate
So say you don't have an oven and wouldn't mind keying up again is that ok, I'm planning to go back to metal around the window area due to rust, plan is to remove rust treat treat it then etch primer (wondering why the sealer is required ? ) Then high build then paint this is gonna be over a month lol
People will alway make these comments you are rite what you say it's what people can aford and not everything has to be bare metal thank you for the video you do a great job
thanks buddy
Looks great Tony 👍
Thanks Steve
Brilliant Video 💖
Excellent video, excellent result thanks Tony
Thanks Doug
Sod the haters mate that job is bang on good work looking forward to the next vid 👍
Thanks 🙏
Hello Tony,nice upload man..
You are a honest hardworking person that delivers good quality jobs,so f*** the persons who saying bad things about your work . Cheers buddy
Lol thanks man hope you are well mate
Well said Tony 👏👏. More great work, fantastic 👍👍🥇
Hey Thankyou man glad you enjoyed it
Looks the dogs my mate,my T5 needs doing after seeing this lol
Looks good mate, I'm starting to learn to paint cars as a hobby. I've got a classic mini I'm going to paint.
Keep up the good videos ✌🏼✌🏼
Can I just say please don't take this wrong but if your starting to learn a good way is get old car doors or car wings to practise on theres good knowledge to learn for it thats if your not already doing it sorry if I've spoken out of turn but just trying to help you keep up the learning it will pay off for you
I do agree with the comment Gary made mate , don’t run before you can walk so to speak take your time work up to it and make it into something to be proud of when your done I started where your at mate once upon a time
Too many people seem to like to add their criticism and 'knowledgeable' advice on how a job should be done. I think they need to listen to the explanation of why something is being done a certain way. I am neither a panel beater nor a spray painter; just enjoy watching you do your work. I do listen to you as I always pick up some tips for when I get enough nerve to spray paint my trailer.
Thanks Gordon appreciate that mate and yes very true what you say above
Awesome real world job! Thanks for Sharing Tony ;)
Your welcome mate
I have a ‘71 bus. You can paint mine any time. Long trip to the UK though.
Lol where are you based buddy
Quite right, Forget the keyboard , they’ve probably never painted or know the first thing what’s involved, spot with your comments regarding budgets, I just did an Aussie imported van for myself, same idea as yourself, good prep, epoxy, then primer filler, It may not be 100% showroom, but I’m very happy, that’s all that matters, can’t wait to see finished product, keep up the videos.👍
Exactly mate not everyone is looking for concourse on these vans some want something they can use
Try not to bite to the haters, everyone has an opinion, you don't need to justify what you do, your work is epic
Thanks buddy
Keyboard warriors I love it lol 😂😂😂 you do what works for you bro
Lol thanks man and I will buddy
Ignore the muppets your work is epic, also your time and free knowledge has been appreciated, Cheers.
Your very welcome mate
Well I’m impressed. What’s your diary like?
Pretty full tbh depending on what your looking for
Great vid Tony
Thanks kamil
Awesomeness Tony buddy... Beautiful work as always... Love that aqua sagola 💕... Lord Almighty bless you buddy.... Peace 👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑 Love you in jesus man
Thanks Bruce
Hi Tony brilliant video all your videos have helped me out , very well explained thank you for taking the time ,
Your welcome mate Thankyou
@@TonysRefinishingTV hi Tony , when you mixed this epoxy did you leave 1hour some manufacturers ask you too, just wonded if you did before applying thanks
No as the technical data sheet for this epoxy says 15 mins
@@TonysRefinishingTV thanks
a talented tradesman will work to a budget with a customer to a certain point there will always be haters /jealous guys/gals keep doing your stuff running a shop and still finding time to make quality videos hats off to you mate... im sure it will turn heads and the owner will be head over heels & you earn a dollar win/win for every one well not a dollar but a quid lol
Lol Thankyou buddy and yeah at the end of the day aslong as my customers happy my jobs done
The negative comments are by those who hate your success. Envy and insecurity are at the root of such remarks. Keep up the good work, ignore the moronic comments.
Excellent content as usual Tony, keep up the good work mate 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks man always great to see you back mate
Great episode thanks
No problem mate thanks for watching
Like your comments Tony well said, some people have no idea💪
Thanks Neil and no they don’t mate just ignorant some
Mint job as always 🙂
Thanks Andy
I'll have to see what we have in our market, I like this idea...and next up for paint is a 78 westy....I like seeing the shine and reflection in the light....paints are expensive. 20-30K pounds for paint ? Not in my budget...thanks for this video.
Exactly mate not everyone has that kinda cash to throw at a repaint on one of these
great video bro,,😎
Thanks man
very nice mate
Awesome 👏 job Tony I really enjoy 😉 watching how you take your time and do those edges haha 😂 and the complete job on that mini van going to be a boss hands down Tony you have it lock 🔐 lol 😂 much love 💪💪💪💪💪💪✊✊✊✊✊✊👊👊👊👊🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🔐🔐🔐🔐🔐😉😉😉😉💯💯💯💯💯💯💯👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks buddy always love your comments man
Great work
Thank you
I don't think there's any shop that can rely on bare mettle jobs they are few people like you say mate that can afford it plus it shows your jobs are very good too notch if anything mate the proof is in the pudding your expanding the shop are they doing the same I doubt it so ignore the know it alls I bet they not doing half as well as you plus people wouldn't come to you for the cars and vans doing if you weren't doing a fantastic job I know from experience theres not many out there mate with your work ethic keep up the good work mate
Thanks Gary really appreciate the kind words mate
@@TonysRefinishingTV sorry for the spelling mistakes mate I had predictive text on ha ha one mistake was supposed to say top notch not too notch ha ha sorry about that mate
Lol man I do it all the time mate so don’t worry lol 😂
Looks great
Thanks Todd
Wish you were closer to me. Need my mini spraying!
Lol where are you based buddy
@@TonysRefinishingTV stoke on Trent. I’ve done epoxy, flatting etc etc. just looking for someone to take the shell and do the good stuff. Very hard finding anyone
@@TonysRefinishingTV actually the epoxy has gone a funny colour in two places. At the edges.
Your literally ten mins away mate I’m in nantwich
@@TonysRefinishingTV I thought you were on south coast for some reason! Ok, how can I get in touch with you pls
Very nice work sir, I enjoy watching you at work along with your descriptions. Re the so called experts (Keyboard Jerks) you don't need to explain to the skintubes, It's really not worth your time. As you said quite eloquently, you and your colleagues live in the real world. All the best to you and yours for the new year. 🙂
Lol to true buddy and glad you enjoyed the video
Hate keyboard warriors, I’m a wannabe painter and with all your great videos I’m getting better🤔lol Keep up the good work.
Lol good to hear buddy and thanks for becoming a member too mate
Great video as always Buddy!
I am late to the party on this one but am making my way through them all
Its disappointing that you have to come out and explain yourself to people who blatantly either don't know what they are talking about or are just looking for a fight....well handled!!!
Keep at it!!
Lol thanks mate and unfortunately that’s just being a creator mate people think we all wana be paid off for stuff but some of us have morals and standards
@@TonysRefinishingTV Keep on as you are dude!
Looking good Tony, not bad for a wannabe painter 🤣 seriously tho, like I've said in the past all the work you do is top draw who ever says differently is obviously smoking crack. Love watching your videos and inspired me to paint my van, have a great wk end dude and sink some nice coffees 👌🤙👍
Lmfao that made me chuckle that one man lol hope you are well mate
no wanna be painter puts on a sealer then 2k and then sand it flat again. great job. this how the pro do it.
Thanks buddy
nice gun mate. what is it?
Sagola 3300gto mate
Is that high build blue lol or is it the camera colour and its just grey?
Also will epoxy help from paint edges coming back through the primer?
It’s grey mate did look an odd grey though but the camera will also alter the colour abit yeah , and yes the epoxy will seal all the paint edges down properly
Nearly time for the money shot bro 😁😁😁😁
Lol 😂
Nice job
Thankyou Larry
Hi Tony. you prob won't get to many negative comments this week most of them are queuing for fuel :)
Lmfao your not wrong there mate lol
The panels look pin straight to me . It will looks the bollocks when its blocked and painted well done mate.
thanks jimmy and yeah it should look awesome when its done i hope
Bus is looking great Tony! I bet if you put that bus and one taken down to bare metal next to each other the armchair experts wouldn't be able to tell which was which once they've been primed!
Lol that mate is very true buddy
for sure sometimes I would rather keep the original undercoats there too for better protection if they are not compromised. useing that epoxy as a sealer gives it better adhesion and a strong seal coat under the primer. Kind of like another coat of steel.
Don't worry about the keyboard warriors dude, great work as always!!
Lol I don’t buddy
Don’t take any notice of the keyboard warriors I think your doing a fantastic job, keep up the good work 👍
Thanks Ian and usually I don’t mate tbh but this one just bubbled me at the ignorance of it
Nice 👍
Thanks
Gotta feel for those keyboard ninjas, they more than likely aspire to paint but lack the fortitude or will to try resulting in them directing the dislike they have for themselves at others doing what they wish they could do. Substrate up restorations are great but the cost and time involved can quickly become astronomical plus with advancements in chemical technology it is not necessary. Your work always looks great plus you put yourself out there to help others which is awesome.
Thanks man and very true words too fella
👍👍👍
Absolutely awesome work. Sod the keyboard warriors.
Lol I will thanks man
who the hell would say you are a wannabe!?🤡 honestly if he/she is so good why the hell is he/she bothering watching you. He/she should have his/her own channel educating us all on how it should be done 😂
I wouldn't even let them idiots piss you off fella.
Keep us the awesome work we all appreciate the hell out of it. 🤟
Dynamite
Thanks buddy
Tony, I know are doing a good job & putting plenty of time into this job & this isn't a troll rant, but stripping a bus to bare metal with paint stripper & a bit of 40g is not a weeks work, 2 days max 1 person, if you didn't do the roof. A lot of the time you've spent on it ie 14 days, has been spent feathering out bad repairs & poor previous paintwork, stripping would have been quicker & better IMO. I'm not knocking what you've done as you are a hardworking guy that knows his stuff.
Very true mate but then the whole bus needs to be bodyworked from the ground up , who knows how many hours filler work , dent pulling , straightening panels will be needed after it’s all been stripped back to bare metal ???
@@TonysRefinishingTV Exactly, it would be absolutely amazing though if it was just a matter of getting the paint off.
Wouldn’t it just mate
@@TonysRefinishingTV I do restore cars & I run my own business, as you know there are digital paint gauges that tell you paint thickness so can detail areas prior to stripping back, also bore scopes for getting into cavities, these are the methods I use to investigate my jobs, but I do restoration, not general painting as you do. I like what you do mate, not knocking it.