I understand the subject of the video was specific to vertical mice; however, if you have wrist and shoulder repetitive stress injuries I’d recommend switching from a mouse where you move your arm to ‘trackball’ mouse - MX Ergo by Logitech is the one I’ve found work the best for me but as with switching to a ergonomic keyboard with thumb clusters (kinesis advantage 360 or a custom Crone are the ones I always recommend) the key comes down to optimizing for thumb-use over wrist / arm movement! Also typically as your thumbs are meant for a larger portion of fine-motor movements it’s less strain pretty much right away. Overall great video and review process and if you are a knowledge worker that spends the bulk of your time on a computer it is totally worth investing in an ergonomic setup for yourself. The time and energy you put in today to reducing as much of the repetitive stress on your body will pay for itself very quickly in my experience.
Absolutely loved this video and wish you came out sooner. I had to do a lot of research on my own 4 months ago when I needed to replace my mouse, and came to the same top choice with the Logitech vertical. I love the dang thing and it can take a drop or in my case several off my desk. Keep up the great content!
Another entertaining and informative video thank you, for me I recommend the logitech mx ergo advanced wireless trackball mouse, has a bit of a learning curve but solved my wrist pain problem :)
Over time these might cause pain in the joint that connects your thumb to your hand. If that happens, you might want to look at a large trackball like the CST L-Trac
The big issue with the expensive Logitech models is their click switches are cheap shit. Their warranty is for one year, which you should get out of it, but starting somewhere around month 14 -16 you're likely to have your "left click" switch start double-clutching and messing things up. It's a well-documented problem with them and you can try to replace the switch, but it's a lot of little parts moving and de-soldering and soldering is also involved. The switch is around $10, but a good soldering station is around the price of a new mouse.
Something not many people might consider, but I HIGHLY recommend a Wacom tablet in replacement of a mouse. I purchased one of the about 15 years go to use for digital art and and realized it did not aggravate my hand and wrist pain when I used it exclusively in place of a mouse. You hold it just like a pen.
I bought the Lift and MX a while back after breaking a ligament on my wrist and spending months in pain using a trackpad. Ended keeping the Lift, which I still used today. The MX was more comfortable, but its size is more difficult to take it outside. Furthermore, for the price difference, I decided to keep the Lift. The wrist healed after surgery, however, I still use the Lift, and now prefer it over any other regular mouse or trackpad.
Great video, I love that you mentioned the inclination angle, sometimes it's hard to find. I have an Evoluent D and I love the inclination and the middle button to close tabs, but it's heavy, so I'm gonna try the Logitech Lift next to switch it up from time to time.
"Mices," love it. Woot has a couple of Logitech's on sale this month, I'm feeling tempted because I have their other devices that all work with their Options+ software.
I own MX vertical for like 3 years now and I'm disappointed that this is the best it gets when it comes to vertical mice. Scrollwheel feels very cheap and the shape not that comfortable. I'm waiting for MX vertical with the build quality and feel of a MX master, but I guess it's not happening anytime soon.
Avoid white Logitech products as they seem to discolor and wear off quickly. Mouse discolored within days (chemical reaction, not dirt). Multiple keyboard keys wore off within 18 months. No such issues with the black models, which are great.
Interestingly, I've had quite the opposite experience. My last mouse was a Logitech Lift and I can't get enough of it. I even have one Logitech mouse bought in 2012 and it still looks more or less the same (and works the same). In my opinion, Logitech's higher-end mice are some of the best quality mice on the market. For keyboards, I prefer brands like Epomaker, Kiiboom, Keychron. Logitech doesn't exactly make the highest quality keyboards. I still have the Z5500 speakers from Logitech, bought sometime in 2008. I still actively use them and they work almost like new. (Only the display backlighting is not as strong as the new ones). Which Logitech mouse do you have a problem with?
I've just recently stopped buying Logitech mice as well. They make the most attractive looking mice out of the box, but in the past several years they insist on wrapping everything in this rubber plastic that turns into a gummy mess after several months of use. I have a MX Vertical and I feel like I have to wash my hands after touching it. This is only after a year and a half of use. That's unacceptable to me. I expect a mouse to work AT LEAST 3 years. I still have a G400 bought before they started going so hard on the Apple-like, planned obsolesce route and it still feels just fine. Conveniently the plastic will always degrade well after all the amazon reviews and review sites give it 5 stars and move on. Logitech is garbage tier for me now (at least the mice are).
Great information again buddy been enjoying your reviews! Woah I just bought one last week! I was contemplating in getting the Logitech MX Vertical, but in the end went for a UGREEN Vertical Ergonomic 4000DPI. I didn’t want to pay something more expensive without trying it for long usage plus i wanted to test if my wrist would prefer it to my Magic Mouse which died on me! Got to say I am liking it now even from the get go of usage as it feels at easy using git for long hours. My wrist loves me more these days hahaha 😂
Best review on Vertical Mice. You forgot to review the HP 920 Vertical Mouse, it is similar to the Logitech Lift but a bit larger. It includes a wrist rest and tracks on glass :)
Why do you need to pick up your mouse? It's designed for sliding, not lift off. If it's sensitive and accurate enough, just position it to where the cursor needs to go.
I use both your number 1 and number 2 pick. Prefer number one because of hand size, it’s a big difference. And it made a difference in my comfort levels within a week!
Been using the MX Vertical and the matching keyboard for a few years. Love it! I really like the one button tap to tab between desktop, laptop, computer. It was so worth it. Maybe I need a lift though for travel? 🤔
Thankyou so much for this, i love my gaming mouse so much so it was duanting to go ergo and didnt know where to star but my wrist has been hurting sooooo much T_T i had to take the leap and this review helped so much
Going to try the ProtoArc EM11 to help with my DQS; used the link in your video. Thanks for the recommendation. Ironically the DQS is partly because I use an old Logitech LX3 corded optical mouse that is ambidextrous but, because of that, has terrible ergonomics that cause one's thumb to pinch more. Because of that and price point, I couldn't consider giving Logitech another sale.
Man, I was looking for a real person video to test wireless mice and you popped up. Was not expecting such an entertaining & funny presentation, Bravo! Also, you cute pup stole the show by doing absolutely nothing. Well researched and insightful, cheers.
For Evoluent 4 macOS users. Don't waste your time trying. Just buy Steer Mouse software. It will be handy for other mouses you use. The change in experience is tremendous. Sadly, the best design has the worst materials possible. But the key is the angle and lightness of the mouse. If you are still frustrated by it, just buy Kensington Expert Trackball and call it a day:)
Those rubbery coatings on a lot of mouse are actually a huge disadvantage. Every product I've owned with that type of coating will eventually wear off and become ugly.
You should test the Contour Unimouse. It's really good, besides the fact that you can't map a middle click to the middle button. It scores high in all of the areas you mentioned as your preferences. OH, one last thing... The mouse can be both traditional and verticle, so you can adjust the angle to your desired sweet spot. You can also change the thumb grip. How you missed this mouse is amazing.
I liked the Logitech Mx Vertical but the lacking support for Logi Bolt made me switch to the Logitech Lift. It’s pretty small but I got used to it and I’m really happy with it. For Gaming a different Mouse and you’re all set.
Please could you consider testing trackball mice - no one is doing them as a legally blind person I use a trackball because otherwise I need a huge mouse surface to navigate with magnification. I’m shopping for a new one.
Thanks for the reviews. I've decided to avoid any mouse with the rubber surface, I have had a few in the past that started to 'sweat' so I don't know if it's the new type of material, or what. Plastic is fine by me.
You should have checked out the UGreen Vertical Mouse. AA batteries, dongle or bluetooth, supports Mac and Windows with toggle. 57 degree angle, good grip. All for just $22.
I’d also mention that the MX vertical doesn’t have silent clicks like the lift does. I have the lift but it’s a bit small. I want to get the MX but I hate the loud clicks.
Ty. Co-incidentally i'm also considering the Protoarc & MX as well, so this video was perfect for me. The only thing i'd like to know is if the Protoarc's RGB is customizable using something like Signal RGB
I have been using the vertical MX for over a year and I started to have pain in my thumbs. Using the left click and right click actualy push the mouse if you don't use your thumb to stabilize it and after a few months, my thumb pain appeared. I think this is also due to the fact that I have a method of claw grip to use my mouse.
I'm using a logitech lift and I love it, but I found this video because I'm looking for a new mouse. Left click is starting to go out on me. I looked up a disassembly video and its super complicated.
I've used two Logitech MX vertical and were great for my larger hand. but they both ended up with a same problem. Left click had become unstable often one click became double-click and dragging was interrupted. I googled it and it seems like it's a known issue on micro switch. It seems like it's happening quite often.
watched your video with the hope that there is something else but Logi MX vertical. I have that one since 2-3 years and it looks absolutely gross. The soft touch material is literally melting and disintegrating. I've had Logitech mice for decades and some I used for 5-6 years, never did I see poor quality as on this MX vertical in terms of durability of materials used. I came across many users on reddit who are experiencing same exact problem. I'm hoping they update this design soon. Thanks for the video.
I bought a Logitech Lift after watching this video, and truthfully it's broken on me in around 6 months. Seems the mechanical buttons under the fingers began chattering and working incorrectly
What are you talking about? I have a Kensington vertical mouse and a Logitech Lift. And both thumb buttons (back, forward) on my macbook air 2020 work out-of-the-box.
Lift is the comfy mice. However it is not durable. The scroll wheel make noise after 2 weeks of usuage. I bought it 3 times and returned it with in 15 days. Logitech should make their mice more durable.
Tested few vertical mice, found the best is thumb ball mouse. Unfortunately there is no left hand version in the market. I ended up with track ball. Kensington is good, except they do not have driver for Linux. I had to write my own script to configure it.
Probably you had to include top end Delux M618XSD vertiacal mouse instead of lower class Delux you presented. This is very good mouse that i use for almost two years, I'd say its better than the logitech ones. It have oled screen with data for battery, connection and DPI selected status, best feature for me is having horizontal thumb wheel, DPI up to 4000, wired/wireless + bluetooth connections, led lights ....
I want to use the MX vertical on Mac, but I cannot get over the fact that Logi Options+ requires the INPUT MONITORING permission. Third party software being able to monitor all keystrokes is a major security leak. Furthermore, the source code is proprietary and Logitech gives very little information on why input monitoring is necessary. I just cannot use this software.
Really wish that productivity mice had onboard memory to save mouse button mapping and macros. I really hate that so many mice require software to unlock all the capabilities of the mouse, especially when I'm not able to download software on my work computer.
I'm on my 3rd MX Vertical. The buttons wear out way too fast, as does the scroll wheel. Of course, it is still the best option, else I wouldn't keep buying it, just it lacks in certain obvious areas.
the logitech lift is nice to use, but the click stops working after a few months. it's happened to me twice, and other reviewers experience the same. sad.
It's really too bad he knocked the Proto Arc mouse. I got one and really enjoy it. It's not difficult to pickup and reposition at all and doesn't 'have a weird tilt' when doing so -- idk what he's on about tbh lol. It has a really good shape and material that makes movement easy. The whole experience from the look, the material, the haptics and sound are just great. I have no association with Proto Arc, and highly recommend -- esp at only like $30! which is a fraction of the other prices. Oh! but pay attention: I accidentally got the version without the LED.
Best for dealing with wrist pain? Assumed to my smaller current mouse. I have big hands. Considering the logitech mx vertical advanced Any other advice you can give? Thanks for the video
Have been using the Vertical MX Advanced for a few years now, removes strain from wrist completely, but in my case lead to tension on the ulnar nerve in some way. Now I have something like a Cubital tunnel syndrome, where my pinky and ring finger both go numb and the whole hand hurts in the morning and through the day. Have to do specific ulnar nerve exercises to make it better. The mouse might be too big for me in the end :( also the rubber coating wears off, especially on the buttons in kind of a nasty blotchy way.
@@Gary320 I ended up going to the doctor and drinking neural meds and sleeping in two braces. I put away the vertical mouse entirely, and instead bought a cheapest pen mouse that works from tripe a’s, a small cheap wired trackball for the thumb and also use a costly big trackball but im sure you dont need to overpay because ffs the buttons on it suck so bad and the only thing good on it is the ball itself. I use all the tools in a combo, where as soon as I feel my hand getting tired, I switch to something different. Yes the brain was having a hard time first, but its amazing how easy it is to get precise with cheap tools. I can play minecraft, typeset, use SolidWorks, Illustrator Photoshop and Indesign. I constantly position the hand differently and sometimes move the task to the left hand if needed entirely. So far it has been much better!
Recently got the Lift and MX Vertical, and I would advise you to stay away from the Vertical. I don't know how it's possible, but whoever made the Lift had zero communication with the Vertical (team or solo). I'm assuming the Lift must be newer because it's just better all around; the Vertical feels like it should cost $25 (instead of 100). My hands are too big for the Lift, but I would much rather use it than the Vertical.
I have the MX Vertical and the software on Mac OS at least, is annoying as hell. Difficult to clean it now is constantly double clicking and my Logitech keyboard is having issues too, bought at the same time... Just not impressed with Logitech anymore, sadly on a Mac, there just aren't many options...
this dog is so focused on his master's speech that it looks like an old physics teacher
Ikr. Its all i can see 😆
haha! what's the breed of this dog? I want one :)
I was waiting for him to pet it at least once and interact with it... I felt sorry for it as it was left alone during the video.
I'm a huge vertical mouse fan, nice to see someone actually review them
Just how big are you?
Thanks for this video! It saved me literal HOURS scrolling Amazon reviews and Monty is just an absolute delight, bless him!
I understand the subject of the video was specific to vertical mice; however, if you have wrist and shoulder repetitive stress injuries I’d recommend switching from a mouse where you move your arm to ‘trackball’ mouse - MX Ergo by Logitech is the one I’ve found work the best for me but as with switching to a ergonomic keyboard with thumb clusters (kinesis advantage 360 or a custom Crone are the ones I always recommend) the key comes down to optimizing for thumb-use over wrist / arm movement! Also typically as your thumbs are meant for a larger portion of fine-motor movements it’s less strain pretty much right away.
Overall great video and review process and if you are a knowledge worker that spends the bulk of your time on a computer it is totally worth investing in an ergonomic setup for yourself. The time and energy you put in today to reducing as much of the repetitive stress on your body will pay for itself very quickly in my experience.
Absolutely loved this video and wish you came out sooner. I had to do a lot of research on my own 4 months ago when I needed to replace my mouse, and came to the same top choice with the Logitech vertical. I love the dang thing and it can take a drop or in my case several off my desk. Keep up the great content!
Came for the mouse, stayed for the dog.
Holy timely video, Aaron. I’ve been in the market for one of these.
Only guy I trust with the reviews
dude this review was exactly what I wanted to know about vertical mice. great work
Another entertaining and informative video thank you, for me I recommend the logitech mx ergo advanced wireless trackball mouse, has a bit of a learning curve but solved my wrist pain problem :)
Over time these might cause pain in the joint that connects your thumb to your hand. If that happens, you might want to look at a large trackball like the CST L-Trac
“Monty” is your first and most loyal subscriber! The way he pays attention ❤❤❤😊😊😊😊
The big issue with the expensive Logitech models is their click switches are cheap shit. Their warranty is for one year, which you should get out of it, but starting somewhere around month 14 -16 you're likely to have your "left click" switch start double-clutching and messing things up. It's a well-documented problem with them and you can try to replace the switch, but it's a lot of little parts moving and de-soldering and soldering is also involved. The switch is around $10, but a good soldering station is around the price of a new mouse.
I have this issue with my current logitech lift, ive been using it for just over a year
You know about any alternative with better switches?
Well, at least the warranty in Spain now is of 3 years minimum.
I have the same issue with mutliple of my Logitech mice
Something not many people might consider, but I HIGHLY recommend a Wacom tablet in replacement of a mouse. I purchased one of the about 15 years go to use for digital art and and realized it did not aggravate my hand and wrist pain when I used it exclusively in place of a mouse. You hold it just like a pen.
I bought the Lift and MX a while back after breaking a ligament on my wrist and spending months in pain using a trackpad. Ended keeping the Lift, which I still used today. The MX was more comfortable, but its size is more difficult to take it outside. Furthermore, for the price difference, I decided to keep the Lift. The wrist healed after surgery, however, I still use the Lift, and now prefer it over any other regular mouse or trackpad.
Great video, I love that you mentioned the inclination angle, sometimes it's hard to find. I have an Evoluent D and I love the inclination and the middle button to close tabs, but it's heavy, so I'm gonna try the Logitech Lift next to switch it up from time to time.
by far the highest quality review on this topic i could find. thank you sir
Great to see new products being reviewed
Who else is hoping Aaron takes on the challenge of finding the best keyboards for wrist pain next? ⌨🙌⌨
"Mices," love it.
Woot has a couple of Logitech's on sale this month, I'm feeling tempted because I have their other devices that all work with their Options+ software.
I own MX vertical for like 3 years now and I'm disappointed that this is the best it gets when it comes to vertical mice. Scrollwheel feels very cheap and the shape not that comfortable. I'm waiting for MX vertical with the build quality and feel of a MX master, but I guess it's not happening anytime soon.
I've been using a similar version of #4 since moving to WFH and it's amazing. Mine doesn't have RGB, which is great and it only cost $20.
Avoid white Logitech products as they seem to discolor and wear off quickly. Mouse discolored within days (chemical reaction, not dirt). Multiple keyboard keys wore off within 18 months. No such issues with the black models, which are great.
Interestingly, I've had quite the opposite experience. My last mouse was a Logitech Lift and I can't get enough of it. I even have one Logitech mouse bought in 2012 and it still looks more or less the same (and works the same).
In my opinion, Logitech's higher-end mice are some of the best quality mice on the market.
For keyboards, I prefer brands like Epomaker, Kiiboom, Keychron. Logitech doesn't exactly make the highest quality keyboards.
I still have the Z5500 speakers from Logitech, bought sometime in 2008. I still actively use them and they work almost like new. (Only the display backlighting is not as strong as the new ones).
Which Logitech mouse do you have a problem with?
I've just recently stopped buying Logitech mice as well. They make the most attractive looking mice out of the box, but in the past several years they insist on wrapping everything in this rubber plastic that turns into a gummy mess after several months of use. I have a MX Vertical and I feel like I have to wash my hands after touching it. This is only after a year and a half of use. That's unacceptable to me. I expect a mouse to work AT LEAST 3 years. I still have a G400 bought before they started going so hard on the Apple-like, planned obsolesce route and it still feels just fine.
Conveniently the plastic will always degrade well after all the amazon reviews and review sites give it 5 stars and move on. Logitech is garbage tier for me now (at least the mice are).
Great information again buddy been enjoying your reviews!
Woah I just bought one last week! I was contemplating in getting the Logitech MX Vertical, but in the end went for a UGREEN Vertical Ergonomic 4000DPI. I didn’t want to pay something more expensive without trying it for long usage plus i wanted to test if my wrist would prefer it to my Magic Mouse which died on me!
Got to say I am liking it now even from the get go of usage as it feels at easy using git for long hours. My wrist loves me more these days hahaha 😂
Your dog and my dog could be brother and sister! So sweet those schnausers!
Best review on Vertical Mice. You forgot to review the HP 920 Vertical Mouse, it is similar to the Logitech Lift but a bit larger. It includes a wrist rest and tracks on glass :)
Thanks. Im going to check it out.
What was this video about? I just look at the dog and how cute he looks with his tie, so smart!
Why do you need to pick up your mouse? It's designed for sliding, not lift off. If it's sensitive and accurate enough, just position it to where the cursor needs to go.
I use both your number 1 and number 2 pick. Prefer number one because of hand size, it’s a big difference. And it made a difference in my comfort levels within a week!
Mices? Double plural?
thanks. it is clear, concise and fun to watch.
I've considered getting a vertical mouse for a while now but I think I would miss the scroll wheels from my MX Master too much.
big fan of the quality of testing/reviews!!
the dog looking at you for the whole video actually is hilarious
Been using the MX Vertical and the matching keyboard for a few years. Love it! I really like the one button tap to tab between desktop, laptop, computer. It was so worth it. Maybe I need a lift though for travel? 🤔
3:22 great vidéo but, picking mouse up from table to readjust can occurs but it's a bad habits, you are supposed to glide the mouse lol
Thankyou so much for this, i love my gaming mouse so much so it was duanting to go ergo and didnt know where to star but my wrist has been hurting sooooo much T_T i had to take the leap and this review helped so much
Going to try the ProtoArc EM11 to help with my DQS; used the link in your video. Thanks for the recommendation.
Ironically the DQS is partly because I use an old Logitech LX3 corded optical mouse that is ambidextrous but, because of that, has terrible ergonomics that cause one's thumb to pinch more. Because of that and price point, I couldn't consider giving Logitech another sale.
I don’t need a mouse……..I’m just here for Monty 👍
Man, I was looking for a real person video to test wireless mice and you popped up. Was not expecting such an entertaining & funny presentation, Bravo! Also, you cute pup stole the show by doing absolutely nothing. Well researched and insightful, cheers.
great review, to the point! the angle on the kensington looks interesting to me, afraid that jumping to 57 degrees may be uncomfortable
Perfect timing. I’ve been planning to pick one up!
For Evoluent 4 macOS users. Don't waste your time trying. Just buy Steer Mouse software. It will be handy for other mouses you use. The change in experience is tremendous. Sadly, the best design has the worst materials possible. But the key is the angle and lightness of the mouse. If you are still frustrated by it, just buy Kensington Expert Trackball and call it a day:)
Those rubbery coatings on a lot of mouse are actually a huge disadvantage. Every product I've owned with that type of coating will eventually wear off and become ugly.
You should test the Contour Unimouse. It's really good, besides the fact that you can't map a middle click to the middle button. It scores high in all of the areas you mentioned as your preferences.
OH, one last thing... The mouse can be both traditional and verticle, so you can adjust the angle to your desired sweet spot. You can also change the thumb grip. How you missed this mouse is amazing.
I liked the Logitech Mx Vertical but the lacking support for Logi Bolt made me switch to the Logitech Lift.
It’s pretty small but I got used to it and I’m really happy with it.
For Gaming a different Mouse and you’re all set.
Please could you consider testing trackball mice - no one is doing them as a legally blind person I use a trackball because otherwise I need a huge mouse surface to navigate with magnification. I’m shopping for a new one.
Great video…. Thank you! I deal with hand arthritis and this video was extremely helpful
Thanks for the reviews. I've decided to avoid any mouse with the rubber surface, I have had a few in the past that started to 'sweat' so I don't know if it's the new type of material, or what. Plastic is fine by me.
The logitech MX vertical has a switch problem that messes up the left click after a few months of use.
Hi, helpful review, here is a question: why did you choose Logitech mx vertical on top over Protoarc em11. Thanks.
thank you. very informative and detailed
You should have checked out the UGreen Vertical Mouse. AA batteries, dongle or bluetooth, supports Mac and Windows with toggle. 57 degree angle, good grip. All for just $22.
I’d also mention that the MX vertical doesn’t have silent clicks like the lift does. I have the lift but it’s a bit small. I want to get the MX but I hate the loud clicks.
Ty. Co-incidentally i'm also considering the Protoarc & MX as well, so this video was perfect for me. The only thing i'd like to know is if the Protoarc's RGB is customizable using something like Signal RGB
Is that dog real or a robot ? Scarily stoic still 😮😂
I love these kinds of mice. I rarely use a pc but when I do my wrist always hurts after like 2 minutes unless I’m using a vertical mouse
omg your intro was less than 5 seconds! thank you!!!
I have been using the vertical MX for over a year and I started to have pain in my thumbs. Using the left click and right click actualy push the mouse if you don't use your thumb to stabilize it and after a few months, my thumb pain appeared. I think this is also due to the fact that I have a method of claw grip to use my mouse.
Thank you so SO much for your video, I already ordered my new 🐁
The Logitech Lift is my Goldilocks. Quiet, fast scroller, and fits my hand PERFECTLY. I appreciate the slightly smaller design.
I'm using a logitech lift and I love it, but I found this video because I'm looking for a new mouse. Left click is starting to go out on me. I looked up a disassembly video and its super complicated.
I've used two Logitech MX vertical and were great for my larger hand. but they both ended up with a same problem. Left click had become unstable often one click became double-click and dragging was interrupted. I googled it and it seems like it's a known issue on micro switch. It seems like it's happening quite often.
same. did you find a good alternate mouse?
Thanks for the review. It was helpful.
watched your video with the hope that there is something else but Logi MX vertical. I have that one since 2-3 years and it looks absolutely gross. The soft touch material is literally melting and disintegrating. I've had Logitech mice for decades and some I used for 5-6 years, never did I see poor quality as on this MX vertical in terms of durability of materials used. I came across many users on reddit who are experiencing same exact problem. I'm hoping they update this design soon. Thanks for the video.
I bought a Logitech Lift after watching this video, and truthfully it's broken on me in around 6 months. Seems the mechanical buttons under the fingers began chattering and working incorrectly
That dog was like "Could you please stop rambling and feed me?" 😁🤘
What are you talking about? I have a Kensington vertical mouse and a Logitech Lift. And both thumb buttons (back, forward) on my macbook air 2020 work out-of-the-box.
Lift is the comfy mice. However it is not durable. The scroll wheel make noise after 2 weeks of usuage. I bought it 3 times and returned it with in 15 days. Logitech should make their mice more durable.
Why would I get something FOR wrist pain? I'd prefer something AGAINST wrist pain please.
😂 you know what he means
Fool of April man
Yes! Why would I want a medicine for allergies? I don’t like allergies so I’m patiently waiting for a medicine against allergies to hit the market.
Thanks Dad! 🤦 😂
🥁
Tested few vertical mice, found the best is thumb ball mouse. Unfortunately there is no left hand version in the market. I ended up with track ball. Kensington is good, except they do not have driver for Linux. I had to write my own script to configure it.
#1 has a speed scroll mode too! I think the top button switches the modes.
Probably you had to include top end Delux M618XSD vertiacal mouse instead of lower class Delux you presented. This is very good mouse that i use for almost two years, I'd say its better than the logitech ones. It have oled screen with data for battery, connection and DPI selected status, best feature for me is having horizontal thumb wheel, DPI up to 4000, wired/wireless + bluetooth connections, led lights ....
two questions. does the MX work on glass, and are the clicks silent? Thank you sir and Monty.
To reduce wrist pain I would suggest trying out a drawing tablet instead of a mouse. Wacom and Huion as an example.
Great video, any suggestions for a gaming mouse
I want to use the MX vertical on Mac, but I cannot get over the fact that Logi Options+ requires the INPUT MONITORING permission. Third party software being able to monitor all keystrokes is a major security leak. Furthermore, the source code is proprietary and Logitech gives very little information on why input monitoring is necessary. I just cannot use this software.
Really wish that productivity mice had onboard memory to save mouse button mapping and macros. I really hate that so many mice require software to unlock all the capabilities of the mouse, especially when I'm not able to download software on my work computer.
I'm on my 3rd MX Vertical. The buttons wear out way too fast, as does the scroll wheel. Of course, it is still the best option, else I wouldn't keep buying it, just it lacks in certain obvious areas.
Kinda offtopic but what would you recommend for a very thin case for Iphone SE? Doesn't matter what material or color it is
the logitech lift is nice to use, but the click stops working after a few months. it's happened to me twice, and other reviewers experience the same. sad.
Nice video and testing methodology, but trackball master race.
I’ve been using a Logitech lift on my Mac’s without any Logitech software and the side (forward/back) buttons work correctly.
have you tested zelotes f-26c? i'm thinking of getting one😅
Im making up my mind for the ProtoArc, is it any good for bigger hands like the MX Vertical?
Logitech MX Vertical purchased! Let's see how I get on.
If one is wireless sensitive, can you use the usb cord all the time and turn off the bluetooth?
can you add links for US customers? i would love to support
The Purex wired vertical is great ergonomically and it's cheaper than any of these. The ones where your pinky rests on the desk absolutely suck.
why not the evoluent 4 but the D version one
Can you make magsafe car mounts WITHOUT CHARGING please! Love the videos literally just bought items you recommend!
It's really too bad he knocked the Proto Arc mouse. I got one and really enjoy it. It's not difficult to pickup and reposition at all and doesn't 'have a weird tilt' when doing so -- idk what he's on about tbh lol. It has a really good shape and material that makes movement easy. The whole experience from the look, the material, the haptics and sound are just great. I have no association with Proto Arc, and highly recommend -- esp at only like $30! which is a fraction of the other prices.
Oh! but pay attention: I accidentally got the version without the LED.
SO THOROUGH! Thanks!!
Wow how much do you spend to do this tests I Love this video 😊 I am a mouse pain suffer user for long time ago
Wow. All that testing really did a number on your biceps.
the first vertical mouse, is it ergonomic ??
nice video thanks!!
Best for dealing with wrist pain? Assumed to my smaller current mouse. I have big hands. Considering the logitech mx vertical advanced
Any other advice you can give? Thanks for the video
I have 20cm long hands and both MX Vertical and Ugreen Vertical are like 1cm too short to rest whole palms on them.
Have been using the Vertical MX Advanced for a few years now, removes strain from wrist completely, but in my case lead to tension on the ulnar nerve in some way. Now I have something like a Cubital tunnel syndrome, where my pinky and ring finger both go numb and the whole hand hurts in the morning and through the day. Have to do specific ulnar nerve exercises to make it better. The mouse might be too big for me in the end :( also the rubber coating wears off, especially on the buttons in kind of a nasty blotchy way.
Did you end up buying a new mouse that helps? Im having the same issue right now.
@@Gary320 I ended up going to the doctor and drinking neural meds and sleeping in two braces. I put away the vertical mouse entirely, and instead bought a cheapest pen mouse that works from tripe a’s, a small cheap wired trackball for the thumb and also use a costly big trackball but im sure you dont need to overpay because ffs the buttons on it suck so bad and the only thing good on it is the ball itself. I use all the tools in a combo, where as soon as I feel my hand getting tired, I switch to something different. Yes the brain was having a hard time first, but its amazing how easy it is to get precise with cheap tools. I can play minecraft, typeset, use SolidWorks, Illustrator Photoshop and Indesign. I constantly position the hand differently and sometimes move the task to the left hand if needed entirely. So far it has been much better!
Recently got the Lift and MX Vertical, and I would advise you to stay away from the Vertical. I don't know how it's possible, but whoever made the Lift had zero communication with the Vertical (team or solo). I'm assuming the Lift must be newer because it's just better all around; the Vertical feels like it should cost $25 (instead of 100). My hands are too big for the Lift, but I would much rather use it than the Vertical.
Can't figure out how to tturn off the lights on delux deluxe
So the Lenovo go cork vertical mouse, was it bad?
I have the MX Vertical and the software on Mac OS at least, is annoying as hell. Difficult to clean it now is constantly double clicking and my Logitech keyboard is having issues too, bought at the same time... Just not impressed with Logitech anymore, sadly on a Mac, there just aren't many options...