Special Thanks to Kevin Langlois (TKS Designer) and Jack Higgins (Jacks3dPrinting.com -Frame Source). Kevin on Facebook facebook.com/kevin.langlois.39 Jacks3DPrinting on Facebook facebook.com/groups/315905552404441/ Please let me know what you think and any additional sources for the UZ85 and/or parts in stock.
@@thirtythreeeyes8624 I have but sparingly and only the 1mm shaft versions. Its a 1s motor, and it can handle the gemfan 2023 prop pretty well. Again I have flown those sparingly.
Really funny. I made a Gnarly Meemo more than 2 years ago with these motors and props and it's same weight as your heavy build (yeah you sure feel it). Also with rubber band and a nano VTX and nano 3 cam. Used a Eachine novice-I 1-2S board. Still love this thing. Your build is like a next level. Nice job.
I didn't find your link for the CLI, and the other settings you named in the video. Can you link it again? Thanks. The video is so good I want to have the exact same one for my own.
A couple of tips regarding rubber bands... I used to build a lot of rubber powered models and some of the wings of my 2M sailplanes are still attached with rubber bands. 1) Use two to hold anything of value (such as that Insta360) ... don't leave anything with rubber bands on it out in the sun, and...oil them ever so slightly and they will last a lot longer ...they weaken when either exposed to UV, or if they dry out.
It's so nice to see you found your perfect build (for now ;-) ). The confidence it gives you "instantly" boosted your flying skills. And by instantly I mean the 300 packs you ran through it to find that perfect combination of components. Now: powerloop your patio!
I was thinking about that powerloop. Tried it a number of times with a different quad, got hung up in trees on both sides and blew a bunch out. Need to get that touch on the throttle just so. Working on it
@@NickBurnsFPV start with flying it from outside your patio as a high, banked turn (like the punshouts over your house) and slowly get more vertical. Looking forward too see more of you as usual!
The new 2s mobula8 is a great quad to grab for rocket race parts! It has motor plugs, it has an xt30 already on it. Grab a mob8 and a frame from jacks 3d printing andbyoure good to go! It has 1103 11,000 kv motors that come with it olus a happymodel X12 5-in1 AIO board and the cam and everything's youll need! You can swap out motors if you like but i just grab 2 or 3 mob8's a bunch of carbon frames from jack, and then ill grab motors here and there if i see some i want to tru onnit and i ALWAYS have spare parts for my rocket race with all the bnf mob8's laying around. Plus you can fly those mob8's if you want a whoop for a specific situation! Life is easy now! Lmao
Same. For me the shipping cost got out of control and then the item prices went up making it a bad value. After a delivery was missing items and fighting with HK for weeks, that put the nail in the coffin. Occasionally I buy a graphene nano-tech battery on ebay.
I ordered the frame and uz85. I did the mod that Mr. Shutterbug did on the nanohawk, where he removed the bumper/ducts, added bigger props, and I love love love it!!! I am really excited for a 2s like this!!!
Great job Nick! Looks like loads of fun. I just built a 1S version on the TKS Rocket Freestyle frame with NewBeeDrone BeeBrain canopy, 40mm Azi props and 0802 20,000kv plaid motors, RunCam Nano 3, and a HappyModel Diamond F4 5-in-1 aio. It's super light (20 grams dry) and tons of fun. Can't wait to try the 2S version on the TKS Rocket Race frame. Thanks for all your work to materialize this concept.
That sounds like a nice setup. I hear good things about the plaid motors. I have a 1s quad with the TW Onesies 22000kv. I need to fly that one more. :)
Using the espresso motors from newbeedrone, if i could fly one quad id probably still pick the babytooth/ or something similar just because i can still use 1s and still have the performance and silence
What a rocket !! My favorite is a similar build with 2” twig frame from betafpv, 1102 18k kv motors 1s, 4 bladed prop. I fly at night and it’s very quiet ,Florida it’s too hot to Fly during the day
Curious what battery you run and how that goes for you? I've been wanting to try this with the 1102 18000kv also but thought that might be a tad high kv. How's the flight time? 👍
@@valden 450mah from racedayquads(gnb) it’s the sweet spot I get 3 to 3.5 min,you probably can go with a 600mah but I would put a better connector than PH2
What is your ESC rating on 1S? 5A or more? I would like to build a 2.5 inch with these 10000 KV on 1S ultra light 27g dry weight. Just not sure of I need the 18000 or 13000 kv instead. My esc are only 5A so lower KV should be more efficient and less current draw.
@@chrisbee5481 your best bet with 2.5inch/65mm props is to go with 13500kv motors if you can. Betafpv 1102 13500kv or happymodel 1102 13500kv. They are kinda tough to find stateside and be sure you get the 1.5mm motor shaft version and NOT the 1mm shaft version. If you have issues finding those, I think something like an a 12000kv 1103 like a diatone toka or pyrodrone hyperlite 1103.5 would work pretty well too. You CAN go with the 18k but it will be twitchy unless you put a motor limit on them.
@@chrisbee5481 Is just your regular 5 amp happymodel diamond all in one I agree with Josh go with a 13kv motors I did find 65mm a little over prop for these 1102s but still fun
I can really tell this is your favorite from the time you put into listing all the parts!! Hopefully the chip shortage will be over soon and we can get back to... normal? Great job. Good review, glad to see you so enthusiastic about a quad.....its been a while
I’m glad to see you enjoying this build. I feel this size/class got left behind with the move on to 3 inch 3S and a lot was lost in the process. I am loving a build the the jhemcu 16x16 board, the old amax 1103 7500kv motors and with GF 2512 props. Also on the shorter wider 300-350 2S cells. With the GNB cells the lower 300mah with the 70c rating are far better than the 350mah 50c. My build is a slightly bigger footprint but still light and nimble enough to be crazy fun. What will be awesome is when we get the expresslrs 2S board. I find the lower latency is an even greater benefit on these little quads since they lend themselves well to fly tight and on reaction rather than flow and anticipation.
Nick Burns good to know. on these 1102s I’ve found better durability/quality in the Geprc though they are slightly less efficient than the HM. With that said, I was also doing the 1102 builds before these small GF triblades came out so with better balanced props maybe the motor is a little less of a factor.
Ordered the UZ85 kit and carbon frame. Look forward to flying NB's favorite outdoor quad. Also, just received expresslrs kit in the mail today. This will be a fun learning curve adventure.😉
I may have some of those HobbyKing batteries stashed in a battery safe somewhere. Time to hunt. You got me. Gotta try it now. 1s Babytooth is my jam but heck this looks fun too! Great stuff Nick. Cheers!
Just bought a uz85 on your affiliate link on banggood Nick as a way to support your channel. Also a rocket race frame too. I love the mob6hd and I think this will be more fun. Cheers lad for putting in work for this hobby.
Still one of my favorites as well! I've gotten a lot of great flights out of that one. After switching out the camera for a caddx baby ratel the dvr picture was a huge improvement.
Greate video. I also have the uz85 moved to a 105mm frame. In my case I use the redevil 105mm frame + 2.5" props + crazybeeX v2.2 + eachine vtx nano v1 + xm+ receiver. This combination has a reason: One day the antenna pad went off, so I get an external receiver. Another day some ESC mosfet burned so I get a new v2.2 FC with the PNP option. Some days later the onboard VTX didn't work anymore, so I get an external VTX (crazybeex v2.2 has that option, v1.0 not). I finally I mounted it on a 105 frame haha Some things that I recommend in my experience with that FC: Flash ESC 16.9 over the stock 16.8 (it will save your drone in some crashes, I lost 2-3 FC with the 16.8 version, seems that the props get stuck and the mosfet burns). Another thing, I also used a printed canopy like yours (the blue one) and was the day that my onboard VTX died. After that day I printed a closed canopy to protect all my board, it's double weight but it's ok for me. I did a design of it by mixing the blue one with another one which has 4 holes with a spider web design. You can find it by searching "caddx ant lite canopy" in thingiverse (it's the green one). I really appreciate that you shared the "emax tape", I was searching for it but I never known how to search it. I think it's so usefull when you share specific tools/material related to drones. Last day I removed the circlips from the 1102 and 1202.5 motors and it was difficult for the 1202.5, I don't know if there is any specific tool for the dimension of that motors. cheers.
Hey Nick, it would be nice if you could provide us with a CLI dump for the Rocket Race 2s for Betaflight, making the build with the Happy Model AIO X12 board, it would be highly appreciated. :)
Damn! That little thing is fast! 😮 What most impressed me is that it seems to carry some weight in the dives! Fantastic! 😃 Amazing flying and review, Nick!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks for a great tiny whoop channel with awesome content, Nick! I've tried the 75mm Rocket, the 78mm Rocket Race, and the 83mm Echo 2-inch. I've found the 75mm frame is great with 40mm props. The 83mm frame is awesome with 2-inch (52mm) props. On the other hand, I found the 78mm Rocket Race almost pointless - it's super tight with even 51mm props and chunkier than it needs to be. I'd MUCH rather fly the 83mm Echo 2-inch. The 90mm Starlord is overbuilt and too heavy while the 101mm Echo 2.5-inch should be great with 2.5-inch props (I've got one on the way). You recommended the Crux 3 canopy and I tried that but found it to be VERY brittle - each of two shattered on their first crash. The Eachine CineFun canopy would be perfect for any camera with a larger, ~12-13mm lens (eg; Caddx EOS2, Runcam Split 3). Maybe I'll try the UZ85 or UZ80 canopy if they can be found? The StorkFly rubber bands are great as is the Gennel 10mm cloth adhesive tape (aka; "EMAX tape") from Amazon. I appreciate your sharing!
I've been using Hobbyking NanoTech batteries for quite some time now. Yes, they do last a long, long time if you use storage voltage when they're not being flown. Yes, Hobbyking is THE BEST PLACE FOR SUPERB DEALS ON LIPO's! Sure, you do have to swap out the red JST connector on occasion or sometimes another connector, but I bought a 50 pack of XT30's long ago of from Banggood because I knew going in, that Hobbyking for some unknown reason still has a lot of batteries with the wrong connector on it! They do have many more XT30 connector batteries than they've ever had before though. So, they're coming around, it's just been slow! lol But, just browse through their battery selection... I was just doing that looking for 850mah 4s for my soon to arrive Emax Babyhawk2 HD quad. I looked at all of the sites and Hobbyking has around 4 - 6 850mah 4s that were a lower price than ANY other dealer had available! Some quality Nanotech's were 3 - 6 bucks less each than other sites had! I can literally buy my favorite 850mah 4s from Hobbyking and get 3 for the price of 2 from the cheapest alternative from other sites. They have a free shipping program too, but I happen to live about 15 minutes drive from the Hobbyking Warehouse in Tualatin, OR, so I can simply run over and pick them up! Bottom line: I think Hobbyking is BY FAR the best place to buy lipo's for our quads and their lipos are very good quality and THE BEST price period anywhere. A superb selection too. TheirGarphene batteries are among the very best batteries I have ever used in my 4.5 years in FPV! Great prices for Graphene too. They have about six 850mah 4s to choose from...name one other site that has that many of one size of lipo tp choose from. Now, get on their email newsletter (sales email) and get ready for their Battery Blowout sale! Holy Cow they have great deals - so far and away better than any other site in the world, it ain't even close! Highly recommended!!! =(:^)-
I know this is like THREE YEARS old now, and things change fast in this world, but can't get most of this stuff anymore from links to motors, etc. Just wondering if you have a new "favorite" non-whoop (i.e. tooth pick or outdoor freestyle micro/nano)?
Hi! I just printed the TKS frame from thingiverse in normal PLA. That thing rips hard, I didn't expect that. I used 2s 450mA and total weight was 70g. It lasted almost 6 minutes of fast cruising. I am speechless. Thank you Nick for recommending that.
This is what i was speaking of on another one of your vids, I see no Build vids and I would think a build vid and kits a Nick Burns addition 2S and 1S quad builds, DIY kits whichever, would be a great endeavor . I am sure ( as with this quad) parts are hard to come by to get just that perfect build, BUT working with the many manufacturers that you review their products etc I am sure many suppliers, manufacturers, hobby shops would step up and help make that happen We saw the JB Freestyle quad kit/build with a large 5" inch i think it was and he has some branded parts, I would assume with your knowledge and wisdom and help within the Community it would be a great seller and a help for many who are new to the hobby and wish to build/learn/fly these micro's ( as we see the regulation of larger aircraft is making them harder to enjoy ) Micros anything sub 250 is the way to go now days . And So many want the ability to have the parts rather than have to sort through so many to get that perfect Fit .As it Appears you have done that with the TKS, would nice to see a mass produced product and a Nick Burns branded one Hope that may ne a possibility in the near future Thanks again Nick for all you do in this Hobby community .
I am adverse to being personally tied to products where I could held responsible for another parties failures. Despite best intentions, manufacturers have failures from time to time, some more than others. This is my hobby, I don't worry about money or what products are selling or not. I have a day job that pays our bills along with my wife's income. We are doing fine. My goal is to continue to explore the fpv hobby, try new products and make videos on them.
@@NickBurnsFPV Fair enough, it was a thought and being curious . I know you give a lot of info and time in the hobby, just wondered if any thought for your own brand / Builds etc was ever considered Thanks Nick
@@FlyingBuzzard Its not that I haven't given it any thought, but the thoughts have so many risks associated with it I have taken the route to try to get manufacturers build quads I think are fun...in the micro arena of course.
@@NickBurnsFPV I still would love to see a build video of your little part creations and how it is set up to the flight itself we see so often. would be a great tutorial for many in the hobby including me even at my age...LOL
Its really hard for me to compare, as its been a long time since I have flown the larva x. What I can say, is I have not flown something with such freedom. The freedom is not only the flight performance, the known safety, size and silence.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the answer. I had ordered the reddevil frame to put the trashcan stuff on but now I will maybe put my uz85 stuff on it and see how that's flying...
I just fell in love with 5 inch again because of the Diatone Roma V2.. still love my micros and whoops though so just one? That would be impossible for me..
@@NickBurnsFPV come on.. you are a very reasonable man.. can I trade something else to keep two? Have a nice boat for you and the kids.. wow.. this is hard.. umm.. huh.. you seriously have me thinking for real.. like 5 minutes now.. man.. ok.. don't hate but.. I made this deadcat analog whoop three years back? It was the Trashcan stuff on the Fullspeed deadcat frame.. it's analog but it just flies so good indoors and out. Being a deadcat it doesn't suffer the washout from diving and can actually powerloop trees with it.. it's not my favorite for either but a livable medium if I only could have ONE.. I pray to God I never have to just have ONE quad.. seriously had an easier time deciding my boy's names than this...
Great video! Anxiously waiting for my motors to arrive. As expected, I can't find decent rubber bands. Did you ever try an appropriately sized o-ring or are they too stiff?
I haven't tried o-rings, I suspect they will need to be "just right" as they are typically very stiff and not very flexible. In this video I did find some bands that will work for both 1s and 2s on the tks frames. ruclips.net/video/l1c_Mq19RSk/видео.html
It's unreal how nice the Baby Ratel 2 looks... Totally worth the extra bit of weight in my opinion. I was gonna build a 3s Twiglet but this looks more fun
@nickburns I may have found a decent rubberband that you used in this build. A bit pricey on Amazon, but they seem to fit the bill. They are about 40mm in internal diameter at rest, not squished like other people measure rubberbands. They are 5mm thick band, and they are black rubber. They even smell very rubber. Feel free to send me a message and I can share my pictures and a link and if you like them, you can share with your followers. I am not related, just a micro and whoops enthusiast. Still aspiring to reach your level of knowledge and maybe one day 1/2 your piloting skills 😊. Have a nice weekend!
I been using these www.aliexpress.com/item/2251832799757694.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.1eed1802AAX8re&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt But I had to wait three weeks from aliexpress. What have you found?
thought I Smoked the 1102 18000kv motors, burnt the flight controller instead shoulda used higher than 5a aio 🤣, reduced motor output in betaflight to 66% worked really well till the fc died. Don't know if the fc died because of the limiting or if it needed a higher amp aio.
oohhh one thing! Crux3 canopy is not compatible with caddx ant lite (your build 1 list). I have uz85 and crux3 and they don't fit to each other, canopies seems similar but are not the same. I get the same suprise the day that I try to do the same, the only solution was to print a ring suppor for the Caddx ant lite to fit the crux3 canopy but I dont recommend it.. it breaks easly with PLA.
Hi Nick Great video on your favorite quad. I came really close to taking my mobula 6 apart for I can build my ION3 because of jello in my video, and I wanted something else than a whoop. But I still love flying it. I guess I will look for a Donner quad. Thanks again for all of the information and parts to build a new 2in
I really like this set up as the 2 inch whoop, but managed to get a UZ85 from Banggood so I think I will try this to. Many thanks as always Nick for your excellent work in the field of micros. ( It reminds me of a lightweight larva x on 2 inch props, which I may try because I'm in the UK so big postage, and have a spare 3 hole larva x frame) Found the Geelang 85x frame for £7 which I think will be better than the Larva x as an alternative.
@@chrisbee5481 Hello there, unfortunately the wasp85x frame has different three hole motor mounting. But I'm going to try and drill it out when my drill arrives...
@@matred3538 Thanks. Just ordered the wasp frame. Are you going to drill new holes or is it possible to modify them with a fine dremel grinding bit? So kind of extend them to the inside. There is also an alternative 3mm thicker frame with multiple choice frame holes for the Larva X. It is just big with 100mm. What i mean with the holes extended is like on this frame too m.banggood.com/Happymodel-Larva-X-Spare-Part-Upgrade-V2-3mm-Bottom-Plate-3K-Carbon-Fiber-for-RC-Drone-FPV-Racing-p-1589796.html?gmcCountry=DE&LP-0630¤cy=EUR&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ad_id=445457187820&gclid=CjwKCAjwoNuGBhA8EiwAFxomA6IcQMuybxMnNTcrmc_b13gKRoG_veKQ33EY0YYjkIRU0Pqidyn1bRoCWB8QAvD_BwE
@@chrisbee5481 I am going to try and Dremel out the wasp85x frame and I already had the larvaX frame, which works well on 2" props and is super tough. I've run both 1102 and 1103 motors on the larvaX frame, because it's bigger it's really stable. Happy building, I really enjoy this size quad also in whoop form because I fly in a park area.
@@chrisbee5481 my Dremel arrived and the wasp85x frame drilled out fine and it looks and flies great with 1102 motors. And just 5mm or so different from the frame Nick used, and we can get it in Europe.. Hope your build turns out great, I think this is going to be my favourite micro park flyer.
Nick could not find your name to get a 6% discount. Looked in as many places as i could. Clicked on your link below for the Nazgul 73mm but after 30 mins fiddling around i gave up.. Maybe post it somewhere on your page in order to avoid having to search for 30 mins trying to help you get yours and a discount for me. Much appreciated. Lato
Word of warning about the UZ85, used it for this build. Motors only took a mild crash for 2 motor to break. Shaft broke on one of them and a magnet came out of the other one.
I broke 3 motors. My fault. This is not for inside. Also broke 2 caddy ant lite. It just shot up im the level mode. Used the stock uz85 tune. Im not a good tuner
There is a rubber paint that you can spray your boards with that locks all the water out and makes them essentially waterproof. I have flown my waterproof Woop for 3 winters now and it's still running strong.
Hello Nick! Lovelly quad and nice flights. Can't get that frame here in Portugal. Would this fit, with 2" props, on the newbeedrone mosquito frame? I can get the UZ85 without receiver (so I can put a ELRS one) at a nice price at this moment. The only other frame that I can think of, is the Beta fpv twig at 85mm. Thanks
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks nick! I'm going with the 85mm Twiglet that has a 1,5mm frame. I've ordered the UZ85 without receiver (I'llput the EP2) and the HappyModel ELRS TX. At this moment 2s batteries are a bit expensive but I'm tired of 1s dying to quick. Cheers!
Yeah shoutout to those nanotech 300mah! I've been using them exclusively for a while now. Started with them on my Trashcan, then on my GnarlyFPV Primo 65mm. I get crazy flight times on 65mm biblades, pushing 5-6mins at times, but then the quad is about as light as your heavier TKS just with larger props and 8000kv 1103s. As far as the connector goes, I actually keep the red JST. I think it's got more than enough current throughput for 2S, especially for a more efficient build, and I think it's a little lighter too. In fact, the lower current throughput means I haven't had any of the 5V reg issues that used to plague happymodel boards since it wouldn't allow the same spike you'd get with an XT30.
I always have problems with the Happymodel motors (especially 1102). Sometimes they don't work out of the box and if they do they break really fast. Does someone know a good alternative?
Its pretty rare anyone else makes 080x motor, but if your having trouble with 1102 or larger motors, betafpv, t-motor, and a host of others make similar motors. I would search your favorite webshop for the motor size your looking for.
Hey Nick, ive been working on several 2 - 2.5 inch quads. Love this rocket race the most. Im just tired of killing FCs. 😪 Short crash and one ESC on the board dies. Disarmed immediatly. Didnt help. Have you tried the new 2 inch 51mm HQ props? They weigh about half a gram less than the 2023. Each! Very responsive.
Hmm. I wonder whats going on. Just a QC issue or something else. I am still flying my original 2 and built two more. To your question I haven't used those 51mm props. But I do have some on the way.
@@NickBurnsFPV okay did some testing today with the 51mm hq bi blade props on the rockt race. It draws only half the current and loses some power. Flight time goes up so much. Needs a different tune too. Im changing the 10000kv 1102 for 13500kv motors with the 51mm props. I think one of my 1102 motors was faulty. After a crash one esc died. Changed the motors to a new FC. Motors ran. Next crash and killed the next esc. Funny thing is the motor works but it could be killing my esc's in a crash.
@@chrisbee5481 One bad motor can kill an esc. Bad from an electrical stand point or physical damage. It might have a vibration and the flight controller fighting to maintain control of the motor can stress the esc on a bad/damaged motor. We often don't know this unless is very obviously causing a flight issue.
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the TKS Rocket race. UZ85 is unavailable, but I found some parts that I like. Thanks for the video and information about this quad
Hey Nick. Been waiting for this 1 after seen all the little "trailers" in your previous videos. Gonna be tough sourcing parts for me. I have a happymodel saifly, do you think 1102 8500kv will be reasonably suitable? I imagine the board and camera would work. Great effort on this 1. Appreciate your work!
Yes, the sailfly parts will largely work, we might have to make some little adjustments like for the camera mounting. 8500 kv will work, at least to the point you can get some 10000kv motors. Keep in mind that the sailfly launched with 1mm motor shafts. Those motors aren't as durable as the 1.5mm shafts.
Great video. Nick - you mentioned you did some stuff to improve the insta 360 go 2 performance? Interested to hear what you did if poss, maybe in a future vid? I know a lot, including me ,have struggled to get the best out of this camera.
Man I wished I ordered a few of those ur85's when I had a chance! Build 2 so far one with the mobula 7f3 flight controller and camera! Running 1102 9000kv happymodel motors with the gemfan 2015 props on 2s. And the other is a mobula 6 flight controller camera and the betafpv 1102 18000 kv on 1s. The 1s is insane but a bit floaty vs the 2s version. Either way I love them and i even have a 40mm version for slower flying. I agree these are the best especially for the backyard!
@@NickBurnsFPV I got that information from the questions on BG for the DIY UZ85 and people were confirming that it ships with the CrazybeeX V2.2 board and there are even pictures uploaded confirming that on BG and AliExpress for the DIY UZ85. I just may put the trigger on this..
Just got confirmation from BG via email. The UR85 is not shipped with the CrazybeeX V2.2 board that has 200mw VTX. They have changed their product description to reflect the new board.
I used the Twiglet mini frame instead. Seems awesome quality and a good alternative if you cant get the TKS frame in europe. The geelang wasp85x frame doesnt fit the motors. You need to widen the holes to the inside with a drill or dremel.
@@NickBurnsFPVrunning an ep2 RX and there isn’t a target for the betafpv411rx in emu… unfortunately. And no great pnp 2S boards with a vtx available now. Thanks anyway. Still flies great.
@@GregPless Seems strange there is no EMU target for that board. I found at this github some are using the matekf411rx on this board with good results. github.com/emuflight/EmuFlight/issues/486 Might be worth a shot.
Best source I've found for those wider rubber bands in that size is bundles of asparagus at the grocery store. I always have my wife save them for me. As long as you don't mind purple I guess lol.
Asparagus bands are what I use to hold the wings on my flitetest planes. Best rubber bands out there, plus you can grill up the asparagus with a little bit of soy sauce on them.
Crazy stupid idea. I have 1103 7000kv motors from a broken quad, and I kind of want to make a 3s build on this frame, but idk if that's too much weight for 2" props. Thoughts?
we have seen 4s on 40mm props? Sure the weight increase will impact the flight, but that impact could be a positive as well, for things like more carry or drift during maneuvers.
Excellent video Nick! And no, your not falsely overhyping the TKS. The frames work great and you just cannot beat the size, performance and cost to make one. I typically fly 5" but I am finding myself flying 1S and 2S TKS frames due to the ease of simply being accessible. I thoroughly enjoyed this video to the end!!!
FYI, my Banggood order for the frame is shown "expected to ship", May 29 so not too long now. Banggood's tracking and shipping has been reasonably good on my last few orders (delivered to Canada).
For analog yes, I still fly mine regularly. I have 3 nearly identical and some spare parts I keep. The issue is sourcing 1102 10000kv motor. I believe HGLRC and Geprc have some but they weigh more and I have not flown them on this frame/setup.
Have you tried any of the props without the Tmount hubs on these 2" builds of yours? I just built a 2" on the tks rocket, and the props without hubs save significant weight(mine is coming in at 32.8g with bi-blades and 33.2 on tris with 51mm HQs), but there is clearly much less "prop" material to grab air. I used the TKS Ant Light TPU canopy, and the 2" props are rubbing on it in the front so I had to do some careful mods with a soldering iron. It's very snowy and wet, so I haven't done much testing other than hovering and getting all my builds in order until spring, just curious!
+5 for using “wang” in the video....I tried to use it in a scrabble game a few weeks ago...the other half wasn’t havin it...imma have to break out this vid next time to confirm “wangs” legitimacy as a descriptor!! 🤣🤣. I still think you should hang that on some merch...”if it didn’t break...you’re not wanging hard enough” LOL... OR just “Wang Harder”
lol. Can you imagine walking around with a shirt that has "wang" on it. Oh the looks. Its funny word me and my kids have used instead of bang....I have no idea why. :)
I finally jumped on this build. I have the ELRS version X12 aio. If i flash with this cli dump here...will it mess up my ELRS settings? I dont wanna mess this up. And then just blue jay to the settings in screen shot and im good? 🤔🤔
not Overhype. I built Hellwhoop a few years ago 1103/10000 and it was my work Lunchtime flyer. It is still amazing to fly! old channel ruclips.net/video/IBmdu6DQtOk/видео.html
Hey Nick, What would you suggest for someone trying to build the TLS rocket a year after the video was released? A good chunk of the parts listed are just aren't sold anymore.
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Please let me know what you think and any additional sources for the UZ85 and/or parts in stock.
Have you tried the Happymodel 1102 19000kv? I'm wondering what size of prop it can run
@@thirtythreeeyes8624 I have but sparingly and only the 1mm shaft versions. Its a 1s motor, and it can handle the gemfan 2023 prop pretty well. Again I have flown those sparingly.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks
Really funny. I made a Gnarly Meemo more than 2 years ago with these motors and props and it's same weight as your heavy build (yeah you sure feel it). Also with rubber band and a nano VTX and nano 3 cam. Used a Eachine novice-I 1-2S board. Still love this thing. Your build is like a next level. Nice job.
I didn't find your link for the CLI, and the other settings you named in the video.
Can you link it again? Thanks.
The video is so good I want to have the exact same one for my own.
When someone has flown as many quads as you have, one must pay close attention to the one is the "favorite".
Thank you for your work!
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A couple of tips regarding rubber bands... I used to build a lot of rubber powered models and some of the wings of my 2M sailplanes are still attached with rubber bands. 1) Use two to hold anything of value (such as that Insta360) ... don't leave anything with rubber bands on it out in the sun, and...oil them ever so slightly and they will last a lot longer ...they weaken when either exposed to UV, or if they dry out.
No way you’re overhyped that thing is perfect for dads that don’t have time to travel to fly. I need it! 😂
Great. Thank you
Man I get so thrilled on how you are motivated about this one. Never seen you like this! Now I'm really interested
:). Its been hard to hold back and follow through. I really wanted to make a video about this weeks ago :)
It's so nice to see you found your perfect build (for now ;-) ).
The confidence it gives you "instantly" boosted your flying skills. And by instantly I mean the 300 packs you ran through it to find that perfect combination of components.
Now: powerloop your patio!
I was thinking about that powerloop. Tried it a number of times with a different quad, got hung up in trees on both sides and blew a bunch out. Need to get that touch on the throttle just so. Working on it
@@NickBurnsFPV start with flying it from outside your patio as a high, banked turn (like the punshouts over your house) and slowly get more vertical.
Looking forward too see more of you as usual!
You need a branded product!! TKS Rocket Nick Burns edition.
Lol,Thank you but nah. I am good with just exploring the micro fpv space.
The new 2s mobula8 is a great quad to grab for rocket race parts! It has motor plugs, it has an xt30 already on it. Grab a mob8 and a frame from jacks 3d printing andbyoure good to go! It has 1103 11,000 kv motors that come with it olus a happymodel X12 5-in1 AIO board and the cam and everything's youll need! You can swap out motors if you like but i just grab 2 or 3 mob8's a bunch of carbon frames from jack, and then ill grab motors here and there if i see some i want to tru onnit and i ALWAYS have spare parts for my rocket race with all the bnf mob8's laying around. Plus you can fly those mob8's if you want a whoop for a specific situation! Life is easy now! Lmao
I haven’t heard the word hobbyking in years. I use to get all my rc plane parts from them
Same. For me the shipping cost got out of control and then the item prices went up making it a bad value. After a delivery was missing items and fighting with HK for weeks, that put the nail in the coffin. Occasionally I buy a graphene nano-tech battery on ebay.
I still buy from them. They have great lipo sales
Same
Cool, I just bought a Grand Avios from Hobbyking!!!Love it!!!
I ordered the frame and uz85. I did the mod that Mr. Shutterbug did on the nanohawk, where he removed the bumper/ducts, added bigger props, and I love love love it!!! I am really excited for a 2s like this!!!
That is a way around needing to buy a tks frame for sure. Good to enjoy your flights.
Great job Nick! Looks like loads of fun. I just built a 1S version on the TKS Rocket Freestyle frame with NewBeeDrone BeeBrain canopy, 40mm Azi props and 0802 20,000kv plaid motors, RunCam Nano 3, and a HappyModel Diamond F4 5-in-1 aio. It's super light (20 grams dry) and tons of fun. Can't wait to try the 2S version on the TKS Rocket Race frame. Thanks for all your work to materialize this concept.
That sounds like a nice setup. I hear good things about the plaid motors. I have a 1s quad with the TW Onesies 22000kv. I need to fly that one more. :)
Using the espresso motors from newbeedrone, if i could fly one quad id probably still pick the babytooth/ or something similar just because i can still use 1s and still have the performance and silence
What a rocket !!
My favorite is a similar build with 2” twig frame from betafpv, 1102 18k kv motors 1s, 4 bladed prop. I fly at night and it’s very quiet ,Florida it’s too hot to Fly during the day
Curious what battery you run and how that goes for you? I've been wanting to try this with the 1102 18000kv also but thought that might be a tad high kv. How's the flight time? 👍
@@valden 450mah from racedayquads(gnb) it’s the sweet spot I get 3 to 3.5 min,you probably can go with a 600mah but I would put a better connector than PH2
What is your ESC rating on 1S? 5A or more?
I would like to build a 2.5 inch with these 10000 KV on 1S ultra light 27g dry weight. Just not sure of I need the 18000 or 13000 kv instead. My esc are only 5A so lower KV should be more efficient and less current draw.
@@chrisbee5481 your best bet with 2.5inch/65mm props is to go with 13500kv motors if you can. Betafpv 1102 13500kv or happymodel 1102 13500kv. They are kinda tough to find stateside and be sure you get the 1.5mm motor shaft version and NOT the 1mm shaft version. If you have issues finding those, I think something like an a 12000kv 1103 like a diatone toka or pyrodrone hyperlite 1103.5 would work pretty well too. You CAN go with the 18k but it will be twitchy unless you put a motor limit on them.
@@chrisbee5481
Is just your regular 5 amp happymodel diamond all in one
I agree with Josh go with a 13kv motors
I did find 65mm a little over prop for these 1102s but still fun
Feedback: seems solid.
I have the stuff for this build. Giving me inspiration.
I can really tell this is your favorite from the time you put into listing all the parts!! Hopefully the chip shortage will be over soon and we can get back to... normal? Great job. Good review, glad to see you so enthusiastic about a quad.....its been a while
I’m glad to see you enjoying this build. I feel this size/class got left behind with the move on to 3 inch 3S and a lot was lost in the process. I am loving a build the the jhemcu 16x16 board, the old amax 1103 7500kv motors and with GF 2512 props. Also on the shorter wider 300-350 2S cells. With the GNB cells the lower 300mah with the 70c rating are far better than the 350mah 50c. My build is a slightly bigger footprint but still light and nimble enough to be crazy fun. What will be awesome is when we get the expresslrs 2S board. I find the lower latency is an even greater benefit on these little quads since they lend themselves well to fly tight and on reaction rather than flow and anticipation.
Word on the street about the AIO expresslrs is no vtx on the board. Small sacrifice. :)
Nick Burns good to know. on these 1102s I’ve found better durability/quality in the Geprc though they are slightly less efficient than the HM. With that said, I was also doing the 1102 builds before these small GF triblades came out so with better balanced props maybe the motor is a little less of a factor.
@@Quad66 The HM motors are also generally lighter than their counters parts. Likely why they are less durable
Ordered the UZ85 kit and carbon frame. Look forward to flying NB's favorite outdoor quad. Also, just received expresslrs kit in the mail today. This will be a fun learning curve adventure.😉
Just ordered the Rocket race. Thanks!
I may have some of those HobbyKing batteries stashed in a battery safe somewhere. Time to hunt. You got me. Gotta try it now. 1s Babytooth is my jam but heck this looks fun too! Great stuff Nick. Cheers!
The babytooth is good. For me the smaller package is even more fun. :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Gonna try your emu dump for fun now. It is super fun with a tweaked UZ85 tune, but want to try the NB approach for a change.
Just bought a uz85 on your affiliate link on banggood Nick as a way to support your channel. Also a rocket race frame too. I love the mob6hd and I think this will be more fun. Cheers lad for putting in work for this hobby.
Nice. I hope you have as much fun as I have been having. :)
If you go from 4 min to 5 min flight time thats a 25% increase. I would call that pretty significant.
It is, I found with the additional weight I did have the feeling of freedom.
Awesome Nick!
He's right the gnb batteries are some great budget batteries if i get budget batteries gnb are the only ones I get
The larva x. Is what this reminds me of.. the larva x is probe my favorite
Still one of my favorites as well! I've gotten a lot of great flights out of that one. After switching out the camera for a caddx baby ratel the dvr picture was a huge improvement.
Greate video. I also have the uz85 moved to a 105mm frame. In my case I use the redevil 105mm frame + 2.5" props + crazybeeX v2.2 + eachine vtx nano v1 + xm+ receiver.
This combination has a reason: One day the antenna pad went off, so I get an external receiver. Another day some ESC mosfet burned so I get a new v2.2 FC with the PNP option. Some days later the onboard VTX didn't work anymore, so I get an external VTX (crazybeex v2.2 has that option, v1.0 not). I finally I mounted it on a 105 frame haha
Some things that I recommend in my experience with that FC: Flash ESC 16.9 over the stock 16.8 (it will save your drone in some crashes, I lost 2-3 FC with the 16.8 version, seems that the props get stuck and the mosfet burns). Another thing, I also used a printed canopy like yours (the blue one) and was the day that my onboard VTX died. After that day I printed a closed canopy to protect all my board, it's double weight but it's ok for me. I did a design of it by mixing the blue one with another one which has 4 holes with a spider web design. You can find it by searching "caddx ant lite canopy" in thingiverse (it's the green one).
I really appreciate that you shared the "emax tape", I was searching for it but I never known how to search it. I think it's so usefull when you share specific tools/material related to drones. Last day I removed the circlips from the 1102 and 1202.5 motors and it was difficult for the 1202.5, I don't know if there is any specific tool for the dimension of that motors.
cheers.
aaaannnnnnd... 3.50 volts!
excellent review of both setups.
Thank you.
Hey Nick, it would be nice if you could provide us with a CLI dump for the Rocket Race 2s for Betaflight, making the build with the Happy Model AIO X12 board, it would be highly appreciated. :)
That looks perfect! I almost purchased that board a few times... Love the baby ratel 2 camera. Maybe a build in my future!
Damn! That little thing is fast! 😮
What most impressed me is that it seems to carry some weight in the dives! Fantastic! 😃
Amazing flying and review, Nick!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks for a great tiny whoop channel with awesome content, Nick! I've tried the 75mm Rocket, the 78mm Rocket Race, and the 83mm Echo 2-inch. I've found the 75mm frame is great with 40mm props. The 83mm frame is awesome with 2-inch (52mm) props. On the other hand, I found the 78mm Rocket Race almost pointless - it's super tight with even 51mm props and chunkier than it needs to be. I'd MUCH rather fly the 83mm Echo 2-inch. The 90mm Starlord is overbuilt and too heavy while the 101mm Echo 2.5-inch should be great with 2.5-inch props (I've got one on the way). You recommended the Crux 3 canopy and I tried that but found it to be VERY brittle - each of two shattered on their first crash. The Eachine CineFun canopy would be perfect for any camera with a larger, ~12-13mm lens (eg; Caddx EOS2, Runcam Split 3). Maybe I'll try the UZ85 or UZ80 canopy if they can be found? The StorkFly rubber bands are great as is the Gennel 10mm cloth adhesive tape (aka; "EMAX tape") from Amazon. I appreciate your sharing!
I’m a big fan - will be nice when parts are back in stock!
I've been using Hobbyking NanoTech batteries for quite some time now. Yes, they do last a long, long time if you use storage voltage when they're not being flown. Yes, Hobbyking is THE BEST PLACE FOR SUPERB DEALS ON LIPO's! Sure, you do have to swap out the red JST connector on occasion or sometimes another connector, but I bought a 50 pack of XT30's long ago of from Banggood because I knew going in, that Hobbyking for some unknown reason still has a lot of batteries with the wrong connector on it! They do have many more XT30 connector batteries than they've ever had before though. So, they're coming around, it's just been slow! lol But, just browse through their battery selection... I was just doing that looking for 850mah 4s for my soon to arrive Emax Babyhawk2 HD quad. I looked at all of the sites and Hobbyking has around 4 - 6 850mah 4s that were a lower price than ANY other dealer had available! Some quality Nanotech's were 3 - 6 bucks less each than other sites had! I can literally buy my favorite 850mah 4s from Hobbyking and get 3 for the price of 2 from the cheapest alternative from other sites. They have a free shipping program too, but I happen to live about 15 minutes drive from the Hobbyking Warehouse in Tualatin, OR, so I can simply run over and pick them up!
Bottom line: I think Hobbyking is BY FAR the best place to buy lipo's for our quads and their lipos are very good quality and THE BEST price period anywhere. A superb selection too. TheirGarphene batteries are among the very best batteries I have ever used in my 4.5 years in FPV! Great prices for Graphene too. They have about six 850mah 4s to choose from...name one other site that has that many of one size of lipo tp choose from. Now, get on their email newsletter (sales email) and get ready for their Battery Blowout sale! Holy Cow they have great deals - so far and away better than any other site in the world, it ain't even close! Highly recommended!!! =(:^)-
I know this is like THREE YEARS old now, and things change fast in this world, but can't get most of this stuff anymore from links to motors, etc. Just wondering if you have a new "favorite" non-whoop (i.e. tooth pick or outdoor freestyle micro/nano)?
The nanofly 20 is very close to the rocket race
Hi! I just printed the TKS frame from thingiverse in normal PLA. That thing rips hard, I didn't expect that. I used 2s 450mA and total weight was 70g. It lasted almost 6 minutes of fast cruising. I am speechless. Thank you Nick for recommending that.
This is what i was speaking of on another one of your vids, I see no Build vids and I would think a build vid and kits a Nick Burns addition 2S and 1S quad builds, DIY kits whichever, would be a great endeavor . I am sure ( as with this quad) parts are hard to come by to get just that perfect build, BUT working with the many manufacturers that you review their products etc I am sure many suppliers, manufacturers, hobby shops would step up and help make that happen
We saw the JB Freestyle quad kit/build with a large 5" inch i think it was and he has some branded parts,
I would assume with your knowledge and wisdom and help within the Community it would be a great seller and a help for many who are new to the hobby and wish to build/learn/fly these micro's
( as we see the regulation of larger aircraft is making them harder to enjoy )
Micros anything sub 250 is the way to go now days .
And So many want the ability to have the parts rather than have to sort through so many to get that perfect Fit .As it Appears you have done that with the TKS, would nice to see a mass produced product and a Nick Burns branded one
Hope that may ne a possibility in the near future
Thanks again Nick for all you do in this Hobby community .
I am adverse to being personally tied to products where I could held responsible for another parties failures. Despite best intentions, manufacturers have failures from time to time, some more than others. This is my hobby, I don't worry about money or what products are selling or not. I have a day job that pays our bills along with my wife's income. We are doing fine. My goal is to continue to explore the fpv hobby, try new products and make videos on them.
@@NickBurnsFPV Fair enough, it was a thought and being curious . I know you give a lot of info and time in the hobby, just wondered if any thought for your own brand / Builds etc was ever considered
Thanks Nick
@@FlyingBuzzard Its not that I haven't given it any thought, but the thoughts have so many risks associated with it I have taken the route to try to get manufacturers build quads I think are fun...in the micro arena of course.
@@NickBurnsFPV I still would love to see a build video of your little part creations and how it is set up to the flight itself we see so often. would be a great tutorial for many in the hobby including me even at my age...LOL
I like how this fly's! And the picture quality of the baby ratel 2 is very nice. How does this fly different compared to the larva x?
Its really hard for me to compare, as its been a long time since I have flown the larva x. What I can say, is I have not flown something with such freedom. The freedom is not only the flight performance, the known safety, size and silence.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the answer. I had ordered the reddevil frame to put the trashcan stuff on but now I will maybe put my uz85 stuff on it and see how that's flying...
Hmm, I have some 1102 motors I think, maybe future ideas.
I just fell in love with 5 inch again because of the Diatone Roma V2.. still love my micros and whoops though so just one? That would be impossible for me..
Come on now. Nothing is impossible. We have to make a decision, no choice. We either chose 1 or we have none. Which is it?
@@NickBurnsFPV come on.. you are a very reasonable man.. can I trade something else to keep two? Have a nice boat for you and the kids.. wow.. this is hard.. umm.. huh.. you seriously have me thinking for real.. like 5 minutes now.. man.. ok.. don't hate but.. I made this deadcat analog whoop three years back? It was the Trashcan stuff on the Fullspeed deadcat frame.. it's analog but it just flies so good indoors and out. Being a deadcat it doesn't suffer the washout from diving and can actually powerloop trees with it.. it's not my favorite for either but a livable medium if I only could have ONE.. I pray to God I never have to just have ONE quad.. seriously had an easier time deciding my boy's names than this...
While hard, you got there 👌
Great video! Anxiously waiting for my motors to arrive. As expected, I can't find decent rubber bands. Did you ever try an appropriately sized o-ring or are they too stiff?
I haven't tried o-rings, I suspect they will need to be "just right" as they are typically very stiff and not very flexible. In this video I did find some bands that will work for both 1s and 2s on the tks frames. ruclips.net/video/l1c_Mq19RSk/видео.html
It's unreal how nice the Baby Ratel 2 looks... Totally worth the extra bit of weight in my opinion. I was gonna build a 3s Twiglet but this looks more fun
@nickburns I may have found a decent rubberband that you used in this build. A bit pricey on Amazon, but they seem to fit the bill. They are about 40mm in internal diameter at rest, not squished like other people measure rubberbands. They are 5mm thick band, and they are black rubber. They even smell very rubber. Feel free to send me a message and I can share my pictures and a link and if you like them, you can share with your followers. I am not related, just a micro and whoops enthusiast. Still aspiring to reach your level of knowledge and maybe one day 1/2 your piloting skills 😊. Have a nice weekend!
I been using these www.aliexpress.com/item/2251832799757694.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.1eed1802AAX8re&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt
But I had to wait three weeks from aliexpress. What have you found?
Have you tried the newer 1002 10,000kv motors on a race rocket? I mean it seems like the weight savings alone would be worth it.
Yes, they aren't as efficient as 1102, and don't run the gemfan 2023 props very well.
thought I Smoked the 1102 18000kv motors, burnt the flight controller instead shoulda used higher than 5a aio 🤣, reduced motor output in betaflight to 66% worked really well till the fc died. Don't know if the fc died because of the limiting or if it needed a higher amp aio.
oohhh one thing! Crux3 canopy is not compatible with caddx ant lite (your build 1 list). I have uz85 and crux3 and they don't fit to each other, canopies seems similar but are not the same. I get the same suprise the day that I try to do the same, the only solution was to print a ring suppor for the Caddx ant lite to fit the crux3 canopy but I dont recommend it.. it breaks easly with PLA.
That is true I need to correct that. Any lite needs a canopy like the beebrain
Remarkable. It's very very hard to believe it flies that well considering its size. No over-hype on your end. I was blown away with the footage.
Thank you. It means a lot getting confirmation. I often worry about my own excitement and sometimes lack of excitement in videos
Hi Nick Great video on your favorite quad. I came really close to taking my mobula 6 apart for I can build my ION3 because of jello in my video, and I wanted something else than a whoop. But I still love flying it. I guess I will look for a Donner quad. Thanks again for all of the information and parts to build a new 2in
In Vader voice: “Impressive!” I think the TBS 2s 300 HVs would be a good fit as well.
I really like this set up as the 2 inch whoop, but managed to get a UZ85 from Banggood so I think I will try this to. Many thanks as always Nick for your excellent work in the field of micros. ( It reminds me of a lightweight larva x on 2 inch props, which I may try because I'm in the UK so big postage, and have a spare 3 hole larva x frame) Found the Geelang 85x frame for £7 which I think will be better than the Larva x as an alternative.
Hey, how did the geelang wasp 85X frame go ? Thinking of that too, because its available to europe over BG express.
@@chrisbee5481 Hello there, unfortunately the wasp85x frame has different three hole motor mounting. But I'm going to try and drill it out when my drill arrives...
@@matred3538 Thanks. Just ordered the wasp frame. Are you going to drill new holes or is it possible to modify them with a fine dremel grinding bit? So kind of extend them to the inside. There is also an alternative 3mm thicker frame with multiple choice frame holes for the Larva X. It is just big with 100mm. What i mean with the holes extended is like on this frame too m.banggood.com/Happymodel-Larva-X-Spare-Part-Upgrade-V2-3mm-Bottom-Plate-3K-Carbon-Fiber-for-RC-Drone-FPV-Racing-p-1589796.html?gmcCountry=DE&LP-0630¤cy=EUR&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ad_id=445457187820&gclid=CjwKCAjwoNuGBhA8EiwAFxomA6IcQMuybxMnNTcrmc_b13gKRoG_veKQ33EY0YYjkIRU0Pqidyn1bRoCWB8QAvD_BwE
@@chrisbee5481 I am going to try and Dremel out the wasp85x frame and I already had the larvaX frame, which works well on 2" props and is super tough. I've run both 1102 and 1103 motors on the larvaX frame, because it's bigger it's really stable. Happy building, I really enjoy this size quad also in whoop form because I fly in a park area.
@@chrisbee5481 my Dremel arrived and the wasp85x frame drilled out fine and it looks and flies great with 1102 motors. And just 5mm or so different from the frame Nick used, and we can get it in Europe.. Hope your build turns out great, I think this is going to be my favourite micro park flyer.
i want, Btw what DVR are you using? Is soo clear compared to mine.
Nick could not find your name to get a 6% discount. Looked in as many places as i could. Clicked on your link below for the Nazgul 73mm but after 30 mins fiddling around i gave up.. Maybe post it somewhere on your page in order to avoid having to search for 30 mins trying to help you get yours and a discount for me. Much appreciated. Lato
Find name for discount on this build? Any discounts for components would be in the video descriptions with the linked shop
Its a little too late now especially since i spent 30 mins looking for your code.. Oh well maybnext timee. At least i tried to get you something.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes but first you have to find the build, its here where i had the problems.
What the width and thickness of rubber band? If you have link to buy this rubber band, will be great
The joy of getting some 1s frame/recommended setups to 2s is only second to the 4s and 6s jump. Great review, Nick!
Word of warning about the UZ85, used it for this build. Motors only took a mild crash for 2 motor to break. Shaft broke on one of them and a magnet came out of the other one.
I broke 3 motors. My fault. This is not for inside. Also broke 2 caddy ant lite. It just shot up im the level mode. Used the stock uz85 tune. Im not a good tuner
There is a rubber paint that you can spray your boards with that locks all the water out and makes them essentially waterproof. I have flown my waterproof Woop for 3 winters now and it's still running strong.
At some point, maybe now, I need to water proof a quad for rainy days. Its really rare we have so many consecutive days of rain.
Hello Nick! Lovelly quad and nice flights. Can't get that frame here in Portugal. Would this fit, with 2" props, on the newbeedrone mosquito frame? I can get the UZ85 without receiver (so I can put a ELRS one) at a nice price at this moment. The only other frame that I can think of, is the Beta fpv twig at 85mm. Thanks
No I don't believe it will. The mosquito is designed around a 40mm prop. The twig is an option, I would also browse through the frames at armattan.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks nick! I'm going with the 85mm Twiglet that has a 1,5mm frame. I've ordered the UZ85 without receiver (I'llput the EP2) and the HappyModel ELRS TX. At this moment 2s batteries are a bit expensive but I'm tired of 1s dying to quick. Cheers!
Yeah shoutout to those nanotech 300mah! I've been using them exclusively for a while now. Started with them on my Trashcan, then on my GnarlyFPV Primo 65mm. I get crazy flight times on 65mm biblades, pushing 5-6mins at times, but then the quad is about as light as your heavier TKS just with larger props and 8000kv 1103s.
As far as the connector goes, I actually keep the red JST. I think it's got more than enough current throughput for 2S, especially for a more efficient build, and I think it's a little lighter too. In fact, the lower current throughput means I haven't had any of the 5V reg issues that used to plague happymodel boards since it wouldn't allow the same spike you'd get with an XT30.
Really reminds me of the Tinyhawk 2 hey, very very cool.
Is it ok if I go with the same spec but only change the prop to gemfan 1635?
Hey Nick, did you fly it with Gnb 450mah 2s? The difference from the Gnb 350mah would be only 6 grams.
It does fly, I just prefer more agility with a lighter battery. The 6 grams is more than a 10% increase in weight.
I always have problems with the Happymodel motors (especially 1102). Sometimes they don't work out of the box and if they do they break really fast. Does someone know a good alternative?
Its pretty rare anyone else makes 080x motor, but if your having trouble with 1102 or larger motors, betafpv, t-motor, and a host of others make similar motors. I would search your favorite webshop for the motor size your looking for.
Hey Nick, ive been working on several 2 - 2.5 inch quads. Love this rocket race the most.
Im just tired of killing FCs. 😪
Short crash and one ESC on the board dies. Disarmed immediatly. Didnt help.
Have you tried the new 2 inch 51mm HQ props? They weigh about half a gram less than the 2023. Each! Very responsive.
Hmm. I wonder whats going on. Just a QC issue or something else. I am still flying my original 2 and built two more. To your question I haven't used those 51mm props. But I do have some on the way.
@@NickBurnsFPV okay did some testing today with the 51mm hq bi blade props on the rockt race.
It draws only half the current and loses some power. Flight time goes up so much. Needs a different tune too. Im changing the 10000kv 1102 for 13500kv motors with the 51mm props.
I think one of my 1102 motors was faulty. After a crash one esc died.
Changed the motors to a new FC. Motors ran. Next crash and killed the next esc. Funny thing is the motor works but it could be killing my esc's in a crash.
@@chrisbee5481 One bad motor can kill an esc. Bad from an electrical stand point or physical damage. It might have a vibration and the flight controller fighting to maintain control of the motor can stress the esc on a bad/damaged motor. We often don't know this unless is very obviously causing a flight issue.
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the TKS Rocket race. UZ85 is unavailable, but I found some parts that I like. Thanks for the video and information about this quad
Hey Nick. Been waiting for this 1 after seen all the little "trailers" in your previous videos. Gonna be tough sourcing parts for me. I have a happymodel saifly, do you think 1102 8500kv will be reasonably suitable? I imagine the board and camera would work. Great effort on this 1. Appreciate your work!
Yes, the sailfly parts will largely work, we might have to make some little adjustments like for the camera mounting. 8500 kv will work, at least to the point you can get some 10000kv motors. Keep in mind that the sailfly launched with 1mm motor shafts. Those motors aren't as durable as the 1.5mm shafts.
@@NickBurnsFPV awesome. Its just sitting around at the moment. Let me get working on shipping that frame to south africa. Thanks Nick.
heh I'm planning to build exactly the same formula (1102 10k + 2 inch prop) but with more traditional "X" toothpick style frame 🙃
Great video. Nick - you mentioned you did some stuff to improve the insta 360 go 2 performance? Interested to hear what you did if poss, maybe in a future vid? I know a lot, including me ,have struggled to get the best out of this camera.
I don't think what I am currently getting isn't great yet. My original go has much better stabilization.
One question that's always been on my mind...how large is your backyard (I'm guessing somewhere around 100 ft width or more?)
The fence line in the back is 251ft. and it narrows down to the house to about 200ft.
Man I wished I ordered a few of those ur85's when I had a chance! Build 2 so far one with the mobula 7f3 flight controller and camera! Running 1102 9000kv happymodel motors with the gemfan 2015 props on 2s. And the other is a mobula 6 flight controller camera and the betafpv 1102 18000 kv on 1s. The 1s is insane but a bit floaty vs the 2s version. Either way I love them and i even have a 40mm version for slower flying. I agree these are the best especially for the backyard!
Looks like the DIY UZ85 comes with the CrazybeeX V2.2 with 200mw VTX...???
I don't think so, unless they changed the board since I got mine. Which is possible. I see one listing showing 25mw still
@@NickBurnsFPV I got that information from the questions on BG for the DIY UZ85 and people were confirming that it ships with the CrazybeeX V2.2 board and there are even pictures uploaded confirming that on BG and AliExpress for the DIY UZ85. I just may put the trigger on this..
Just got confirmation from BG via email. The UR85 is not shipped with the CrazybeeX V2.2 board that has 200mw VTX. They have changed their product description to reflect the new board.
@@CXBFPV Good to know. Thank you
I used the Twiglet mini frame instead. Seems awesome quality and a good alternative if you cant get the TKS frame in europe. The geelang wasp85x frame doesnt fit the motors. You need to widen the holes to the inside with a drill or dremel.
Uoh have i found my new quad?
In my humble opinion you like it so much because it flies like a 5 inch from what I can see ....it is impressive
Love my TKS race rocket. Do you have a CLI for betaflight version? Can’t run emu on my board. Thanks!
Sorry I don’t. I have them on Emu. Why is your board stuck on betaflight? Won’t flash?
@@NickBurnsFPVrunning an ep2 RX and there isn’t a target for the betafpv411rx in emu… unfortunately. And no great pnp 2S boards with a vtx available now. Thanks anyway. Still flies great.
@@GregPless Seems strange there is no EMU target for that board. I found at this github some are using the matekf411rx on this board with good results. github.com/emuflight/EmuFlight/issues/486 Might be worth a shot.
Awesome! Will give it a shot. Thanks
Have you heard of the sub atomic 2 frame from Gnarly FPV? I know you mentioned you like 2s 2" builds.
I certainly have :) ruclips.net/video/Cnaf83GNnq8/видео.html
@@NickBurnsFPV yes I watched this episode, and now they have the 2 inch 😀. You inspired me to build one, thank you sir!!
Best source I've found for those wider rubber bands in that size is bundles of asparagus at the grocery store. I always have my wife save them for me. As long as you don't mind purple I guess lol.
Asparagus bands are what I use to hold the wings on my flitetest planes. Best rubber bands out there, plus you can grill up the asparagus with a little bit of soy sauce on them.
Crazy stupid idea. I have 1103 7000kv motors from a broken quad, and I kind of want to make a 3s build on this frame, but idk if that's too much weight for 2" props. Thoughts?
we have seen 4s on 40mm props? Sure the weight increase will impact the flight, but that impact could be a positive as well, for things like more carry or drift during maneuvers.
Saw this just now, and noticed that I don't have a 78mm TKS race yet, so I cut one. If anyone in EUROPE needs one let me know.
I found that CycloneFPV has 1102 happymodel motors in stock
Just built the UZ80 but this looks fantastic! May be a Winter build for me.
Excellent video Nick! And no, your not falsely overhyping the TKS. The frames work great and you just cannot beat the size, performance and cost to make one. I typically fly 5" but I am finding myself flying 1S and 2S TKS frames due to the ease of simply being accessible. I thoroughly enjoyed this video to the end!!!
Thank you. I am with you, these tiny quads can be so easy to find time to fly and won’t bother people
Exactly what I was looking for.
Finally got one of these built and it is definitely my new quad! Thanks for the video!!!
FYI, my Banggood order for the frame is shown "expected to ship", May 29 so not too long now. Banggood's tracking and shipping has been reasonably good on my last few orders (delivered to Canada).
Hey, do you have a link for the frame? Looking for it
Hi NB !! I hesitate to buy this drone for 1 reason : in a year, will it be possible to get replacement part ??
That is a question we can’t be certain of for any fpv quad. A year is a long time
Would this be a bad choice for beginners to grow into?
To grow into? I wouldn't think so. Some jump straight into a 5inch quad, which imho is much more dangerous and difficult to control for a beginner.
Do you happen to have a Betaflight Cli dump for this exact build?
Great video. Thank you for the time you put into the video and all the parts lists and links. Im planning my orders right now. 🤙
I don't mind long videos. It made me buy the stuff to try this project too.
@nickburnsfpv you should look into doing a review on the TKS echo 3.5 !
Nick - would you still recommend this build a year later? Going to be my first time building. Any updates? Thanks!
For analog yes, I still fly mine regularly. I have 3 nearly identical and some spare parts I keep. The issue is sourcing 1102 10000kv motor. I believe HGLRC and Geprc have some but they weigh more and I have not flown them on this frame/setup.
Have you tried any of the props without the Tmount hubs on these 2" builds of yours? I just built a 2" on the tks rocket, and the props without hubs save significant weight(mine is coming in at 32.8g with bi-blades and 33.2 on tris with 51mm HQs), but there is clearly much less "prop" material to grab air. I used the TKS Ant Light TPU canopy, and the 2" props are rubbing on it in the front so I had to do some careful mods with a soldering iron. It's very snowy and wet, so I haven't done much testing other than hovering and getting all my builds in order until spring, just curious!
do you mean press on props? No I have tried that type of prop on this.
You are not over hyping it. That little thing is a beast. Love them🙏👍🙏👍🙏👍
+5 for using “wang” in the video....I tried to use it in a scrabble game a few weeks ago...the other half wasn’t havin it...imma have to break out this vid next time to confirm “wangs” legitimacy as a descriptor!! 🤣🤣. I still think you should hang that on some merch...”if it didn’t break...you’re not wanging hard enough” LOL... OR just “Wang Harder”
lol. Can you imagine walking around with a shirt that has "wang" on it. Oh the looks. Its funny word me and my kids have used instead of bang....I have no idea why. :)
great video i may get this quad nowthanks to u ....I am using the affiliate luink when i do as well
I finally jumped on this build. I have the ELRS version X12 aio. If i flash with this cli dump here...will it mess up my ELRS settings? I dont wanna mess this up. And then just blue jay to the settings in screen shot and im good? 🤔🤔
The dump is for emu flight and frsky, so I don't suggest using it. If you put emu flight on the AIO you can use the pids from the cli dump
not Overhype. I built Hellwhoop a few years ago 1103/10000 and it was my work Lunchtime flyer. It is still amazing to fly! old channel ruclips.net/video/IBmdu6DQtOk/видео.html
yep that is back when furiousfpv was leading the micro market. Oh where did the time go :)
This fly like crazy...Would be nice to have one of that and trie to do freestyle with it
Unicorn tastic!
Hey Nick,
What would you suggest for someone trying to build the TLS rocket a year after the video was released? A good chunk of the parts listed are just aren't sold anymore.
I would go for the happymodel x12 AIO, caddx ant, anthe hglrc 1102 10000kv motors. If none of the 1002 more are available the 1002 on biblade.
Looks good nick, I got all the parts in this week, plan on putting both a 1s 75mm and the 2s on the 78mm race.
Nice. Let me know what you think, and of course which you prefer :)
This makes me miss my lizard95 3s.. so to speak.