REFURBISHED 777-300ER | British Airways Economy to Singapore | Trip Report
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- We're onboard a refurbished 777-300ER of British Airways flying one of their premier routes; London Heathrow to Singapore Changi. It's an overnight flight in their 'twin' economy seats at the back of the plane. I'll try their special meal pre order, and we'll get to find out what their refitted aircraft are like. Spoiler, they're so far ahead of the old cabin it's unreal.
Airline: British Airways
Aircraft: Boeing 777-300ER G-STBD
Route: LHR - SIN (London Heathrow T5 to Singapore Changi T1)
Class: Economy / World Traveller
Seat: 50B
Flight Number: BA11
Flight time: 13:05
Month: August 2023
00:00 Intro
00:43 Boarding
02:00 Seat
03:51 Takeoff & Meal
05:25 WiFi
05:48 Loo
06:15 2nd Meal
07:10 IFE
08:50 Approach & Landing
09:45 Tribute
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Awww man, sorry about your Grandad. My Granda died when I was in Tokyo…I visited him in Hospital the day before I left and even though I may not have thought at the time, deep down inside I knew it would be the last time, and I cried as I left. He loved hearing about my holidays, and reading about the places I would visit. I well up just thinking about it.
Thanks, yeah the same story with mine. Was always great to share stories and tell him what I was up to. Very much missed
Always wait for your uploads JT - another fantastic trip report! Sorry to hear about your loss!
Thank you! Much appreciated
Superb as always JT 👏🏼
Thank you!
A great report as always, Jamie. I loved the comparison graphics!
And what a lovely and touching tribute to your grandad. I used to do the same with my mum, we would sit down together with the atlas so she could see where I would be visiting on my trips. I would also write out a detailed itinerary for her so that she could follow along in real time! Sadly my mum passed away two years ago. She didn't have a lot to leave me, but she had taken out a couple of life assurance policies so she could leave me a little something. I know that she would be so pleased that I'm using that money to travel more!
My sincere condolences to you and your family. 🙏
Thanks Andy. It's the little things you remember and the small touches I think. Sorry to hear about your mum.
cool video!
Thank you!
Nice good report!
Thank you :)
"Game changer" is such an overused phrase. This is an incremental adjustment in the product in order to bring it up to a comparable level as its competitors in order to claw back lost market share. Game changing would be the airport operating authority/UK gov't adjusting the ridiculous taxes & fees charged to passengers. Case in point, BA has the most advantageous schedule in terms of getting from the Middle East/Gulf region to Caribbean destinations. You can do it all in one day since the outbound flights leave the Gulf region at o'dark thirty. Even with booking an award flight in business, the taxes & fees are substantial for transiting through LHR, and lets not forget the security lines. For me as a yank, I will take a US routing to get to the West Indies through NYC or MIA rather than deal with London airports, and I say this as a Qatar Silver member with Avios that I can use on BA metal. Its going to be some time before this cabin makes its way to the "Beach Fleet".
I still think for me the new cabin is game changing, it means the IFE does work and the arm rest lifts, plus I can charge anything I'm using whilst in the air; this wasn't possible before. I agree the taxes and fees are excessive compared to routing via other hubs, but similarly LHR isn't a great airport to transit through.
Did they upgrade all of their 777’s? I’m flying to Florida in August on a BA 777 and would be glad to know that I’ll be flying in a refreshed cabin
mostly, there's a few 777-200s that are ex Gatwick that haven't been refitted, however as I understand they already have the new economy product. Right now there's 2 777-300ers that don't feature the new economy cabin
Thank you for your videos Jamie! I'll be taking my first flight from SG to London soon, and your BA flight videos are really helpful!
Thank you! I hope it was informative, are you flying BA?
@@JTsJourneys Yep, will be!
Nice report and thanks for the comparison. Looks quite fine tbh
Thanks. It's amazing the difference some new seats and better entertainment can make. I see it as removing friction points and it's working well.
Wow…What a lovely video. Even though I never fly economy on a long haul, I thoroughly enjoyed this journey with you. You’re very good at what you’re doing. All the best. 🥂👊🏾
Thank you ! Really appreciated
A really comprehensive trip report and a lovely tribute to your grandfather. Thanks for uploading this one.
Not sure I'd rush to fly BA economy to Singapore when SQ and the ME3 carriers offer a superior service, but BA have definitely tried to improve their economy product on the ageing 777 fleet.
Thank you! Yes it's certainly an improvement. I agree, plenty of options to get into SE Asia, unfortunately as we tend to use Avios and amex vouchers we're fairly restricted to BA
It’s good that they finally caught up with their competition after almost a decade…
It’s taken a while hasn’t it! Flying virgin soon so will be good to compare
Thanks for this video. I recently travelled in their refurbished 777 on the way back from Saudi, and we got upgraded to business. Sad to know that it’s at the expense of economy, making it 3-4-3 as opposed to 3-3-3
The upgrade must have been superb!
@@JTsJourneys it really was! I wasn't well either, and had a massive nose bleed a few days prior, with blocked sinuses etc. so being able to sleep in a bed was great!
Would've been nice to spend all that time awake and enjoying it, but I couldn't equalise the pressure and was in pain, so I just went to sleep
I was fortunate to travel business class LAX to LHR and everything, including the food, was excellent
Superb! A good amount of time to spend upfront too with a bed overnight
I always thought that British airways would be an amazing airline. Something that the Queen of England would proud to fly on. Then when I actually flew on them so disappointing.
Depending on the price would pick Malaysia airlines or Singapore airlines any day over BA.
Interesting comment. The Queen regularly flew BA when the Concorde fleet were in service, 1A I believe was her preference. BA are certainly no longer amongst the elite airlines they once were, but they're still a solid middle ground airline I'd say. This investment in the cabin elevates them for me.
How do you get to choose your seat in advance? I’m travelling in July and do not have the option to do this from the BA app.
The app is honestly crap. Try the website as that should allow if you booked via BA. If not the call centre can usually help out. I’ve never seen BA split people up either should you be travelling with others
@@JTsJourneys Thanks for the reply.
I’m travelling with my son (he’s 12) and thought those seats would be ideal for us. Unfortunately I didn’t book with BA but through a travel agent. I’ll give the website a try.
Thanks again 👍🏻
Good 'ole B.A attitude nothing's changed over the years since re their economy cramped seat's, much prefer Singapore Airlines to be honest., but each to ones own ha?. Awesome flight review there Jamie, thanks for uploading this video👍✈
Thanks! I agree Singapore would be the preferred option…
Were they strict with the checked baggage and carry on baggage?
Great question, our bags were underweight so I couldn't say if they're strict on that front. With cabin bags I've never seen BA enforce any of the bag sizers at the gate, as long as it looks reasonable I've always been fine there.
not impressed. BA have refurbed some of their planes but they are still low cost carrier quality and service but full service airline prices. To charge extra for your twin seat is a good example of LCC practices. Singapore and virgin are streets ahead
I agree with the pricing, if they can charge you for something now they will, most things with BA seem to be unbundled. Nice to see WiFi is now free though. At least they’re not charging for ife !
Prefer to fly SQ on that route flying with them later this year on there a350 from man
The A350 knocks the 777
I have a Singapore 787 video coming soon, will have to wait a bit for the A350...
I've 2 A350 flights planned over Summer, Iberia and China Southern...
Do this route a lot - Singapore (like other Asian Carriers such as JAL, Korean, Thai) are still 3,3,3 seats across. (Reason to avoid Emirates Qatar as well unless A380 )Category killer for me - hate being bumped on narrow isles. Plus I reckon Singapore at least equal and often better than BA in all aspects.
Singapore is far better than BA in every aspect, not even close in my experience (I live in SG).
I'd say Singapore Airlines are better than BA based on my experiences with them. Plus, you can't get a Singapore Sling on BA...
@@JTsJourneys Living in Australia it's great that Singapore partner with Virgin Australia - points, lounges et. Even tho lifetime Gold FF with Qantas prefer SG/VA - just google Qantas complaints - eg just fined millions for selling seats on cancelled flights. Would rate BA as upper average European Airline - euro business a rip off with just middle seat blocked out. Aussie/Asian carriers all 2,2 with PE long haul seats in 737s. Besides LHR reckon UK airports well below most Asian / Oceanic airport standards. Thought LTN, STN even LGW average but 3 weeks ago flew into Manchester - far worse than Manila - airbridge failed; travelators not working yet long inter terminal / station walks, very poor lounge and inadequate public seating. Australia needs more low cost competition - Bonza now stopped so more 5th freedom rights for Batik, Air Asia, Scoot probably only option.
Qantas were always an airline I held in high regard from a distance, I;ve never flown them but all I seem to hear are negative stories around poor service, shoddy aircraft and mystery flights. Hopefully they come back stronger ahead of sunrise flights. Manchester was my local for many years. It's undergoing a huge investment programme at present and has improved significantly in the past 12 months. A few more years and hopefully it's one to be proud of again... the travelators have been switched off for years to 'save energy'
@@JTsJourneys Qantas were a national icon - but the previous CEO maximised profits at the expense of customers and staff. So been prosecuted by both Consumer & IR regulators to the tune of $100s millions & trashed brand. Hope Man does improve - flown there twice recently on BA - shockingly bad. Besides crowding, non working airbridges & travellators was meeting a friend for a night before flying out to Amsterdam. Asked a staff member where left luggage was and was told "not sure if they had one" but try terminal 2!!!!! Never again.
6:15 definitely not. The forward lav on an Emirates A380 is huge. You could swing a cat in it.
When I watch it back I forgot that Emirates have economy upstairs on their high density 380's
Brilliant airline always fly in club or first . Service and food cannot be beaten . After years of being neglected by previous management def on the way back up again . The best are the staff. Very attentive far better than Emirates or Singapore who don’t know how to treat customers. But it’s each to their own I suppose . Def would never travel Emirates again . Good report though
I agree, certainly feels like the right moves are being made to update the dated products. Never had any issues with staff, although I have had some slightly softer experiences since the changes were made to long haul/short haul crewing. Thanks :)
I’d go for Singapore Airlines A380……way better all round. 14 hours in BA economy is torture.
One I need to try in the future for sure! These upgrades to BA are a good step forward though
No difference in Economy between the two airlines
Never mind all that, are the cabin crew halfway decent compared to the top airlines? Doesn't matter to me. I'm never flying them again.
I've never had a problem with the cabin crew on BA, always super friendly and willing to help. I always find it reassuring coming home when I step onboard and chat to them
They need to replace the 777
I agree, the 787-10 looks to be the favourite to replace them, most routes the operate a 777-200 with could be flown by the 787-10. Given the investment they're pouring into the fleet though we could be flying around on 30 year old 777s in the not to distant future
Annoying background music
Thanks for the feedback
It's a rubbish airline.
Waste of money.
Interesting take, did you have a bad experience when you flew them?
You obviously only fly Ryanair lol
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BA refurbished Boeing 777 have the high density seating, 10 abreast, the original seating was 9 abreast. Avoid at all costs, definitely not acceptable on a long haul flight.
As I discuss in the video, although each seat has a tighter width, the improvements in the design of the seat plus the IFE upgrade actually makes this a more comfortable aircraft to fly on vs their old version. Very few airlines now have a 9 abreast config unfortunately.
@@JTsJourneysand that’s why I avoid the Boeing 777 at all costs for long haul travel. I much prefer the A350 or B787.
Or, if available, A330 or B767.
Of course upstairs in the A380 is my personal favourite for long haul.
Every major airline has 10 abreast.
@@MichaelGGarry incorrect, Singapore Airlines still use 9 abreast seating in their B777-300 because they appreciate passenger comfort. Incidentally, their seat pitch is 32” in economy, some of the biggest economy seats in any B777.
@@sadtwat And that is one big reason why they are literally twice the price of Emirates or Qatar for Singapore to UK these days.