To be fair, with a ship, you need to know exactly how much fuel (in this case sparklium) you need to get to your destination, and how much your ship can hold. It's quite literally rocket science.
"What's your new excuse, Lazy Lucy? What's the little scheme you're dreaming, up today? Tell me what's the use, Lazy Lucy? Working very hard to find an, easy way?"
I feel like by saying "Who would want to enter Lastfrost Cavern 1137.27 times? Definitely not me." you might accidentally have summoned the patience elemental known as Lemon from the depths of the Backlogs.
It's honestly just a waiting game, not nearly as challenging as some of his normal runs, but also exceedingly flavorless. Avoiding getting board is the real challenge, rather then getting past a frustrating obstacle.
Not only do the Rescue Corps match their outfits and ship to match the color you choose, but if you change it later, they all change as well. I enjoy treating this as you forcing them to repaint the ship simply because you're bored.
Always amused by how much strategy and planning goes into these "minimal effort" challenges. I'm fascinated by your pathing and thought process! Thank you for another great video.
I really love that you put built in subtitles in the video, but I'd like to request them to be smaller in the future, so you can actually read it via phone and it doesn't update every second rsrs. Regardless, the effort is highly appreciated uwu
Before watching this, this seems like it is going to be an incredibly obnoxious run given that you will need to farm a ton of corpses. Since enemies respawn in caves once the cave reaches 100%, this run could devolve into bug farming. I don’t envy you at all. Edit Post-Watch: glad your sanity remains in tact. Thanks for at least mentioning the respawning corpses though. Also, found this interesting in the video: Press-A: And who would want to do that?!?! Definitely not me! CC: Probably not me. Oh no. . . Good bye future sanity!
If u run a 5treasure% speedrun, you can still get sparklium from enemies in other caves once and pick up some castaways on the way to buy the dog a speed boost. Idk the math on how much sparklium u would save from collecting all the enemies from the other caves, but I bet that would shave some hours off. Oh and u can probably get white pikmin from caves, hopefully enough to quickly carry all the enemies in the 2 treasure cave.
Technically, you also need to collect the Gift of Friendship, though it is not collected manually. Even though it is never carried by Pikmin under your command, you are forced to collect it. But that would increase your total by 1 extra treasure, since you literally have to collect it to finish the game.
Can I just say that I was kind of annoyed at how they structured the series? Like if the whole point of completing a series is it gives you extra sparklium why did they leave so many of them to the last area when you don't need it??? They could have made it more rewarding by letting series be completed throughout the game in roughly equal measure... Makes me anggy.
For 100%ing the game, it's the same as Pikmin 2. It's not about the sparklium it's about collecting everything. Which also let's you read all of the treasure notes and see the collections of completed series. Some of which have special rewards like the toy train set being fully assembled, the Nintendo set having the games in the consoles, or the puzzle piece set being completed.
Technically 1137 is closer! Also it would be possible to beat the game while entering last-frost cavern fewer times. By going through the other caves and collecting all the enemy corpses there once, you can gain more sparklium and reduce how much needs to come from the cavern. Specifically, in the main video, 1,267 sparklium is collected from enemies in caves. (This does count the 11 from last-frost cavern once.) Combined with the 490 sparklium from the 5 collected treasures, this is 1,757 sparklium, bringing the total we need to collect by repeating last-frost cavern down from 12,510 all the way down to 11,243. This means that instead of needing to repeat last-frost cavern 1137 times, we only need to repeat it 1023 times! (Annoyingly 11,243 is one more than a round multiple of 11, so if there's a single sheargrub anywhere that was missed in the original video, we could bring that down to 1022 repeats exactly, or 1023 total times entering last-frost cavern.) This saves 115 trips through last-frost cavern!
I did a crude test to estimate how long this would take. I hopped into my complete save file and did 10 runs of last-frost cavern. It took me just under 2 real-life minutes per run (19 minutes total - though most of that was the loading, lol) and the main level timer was almost at the first dot. This means you could likely do around 60 runs per in-game day, taking just under 2 hours. This means it would take just over 17 in-game days or 34 real-life hours just running last-frost cavern to gather enough sparklium. If you decided to do this run as a full-time job, for 8 hours a day, it would be 4.25 full days of just last-frost cavern grinding. (I haven't accounted for the amount of time saved by having Oatchi fully upgraded, but I think it only makes a difference to how much damage rushing the blowhog does, so once you have enough pikmin it should be about the same. Plus considering where the timer was, I think another 2 runs would be possible before hitting the first dot on the main area timer, which would mean 72 runs would be possible per in-game day, making the grind around 14.5 in-game days; though this might be cut short at the end of the day by the 10-second countdown.)
@@mariatomlinson2663 1137 being closer doesn't technically matter. because you can't ~really~ do .27 of a run, you'd have to do it 1138 times. I'd be willing to wager entering any other levels outside of the first would also be a waste of time, as you'd have to do those runs and then end a day. Though I guess the challenge is about minimal treasure, not minimal days so it shouldn't matter. It'd come down to how many in game minutes are required to unlock each cave, versus how many times you could run Lastfrost Cavern in the same time... I imagine its still probably quicker to run the caves in a day than it is to spam Last Frost Cavern, but couldn't say for sure.
Funny thing about the safe combo: You only need to see two of the cards, and you can just chuck pikmin at the third dial repeatedly. Which is good because one card is kinda out of the way.
Actually, you only need one, that's what the speedrun does. You probably don't need any, but it goes from guessing from 8 with 2 cards, to 72 with 1 card, to 720 with no cards.
Fun fact, the first time I played Pikmin 4, I was fascinated by the safe mechanic. And thought you had to guess it. So I guessed it. It was 614. I do not know what Dandori entity possessed me to grant me such knowledge, but it has not returned since
@@weckar With "Skill" you need no cards, why 2? Seriously its just luck with 0, 1 or 2 cards, technically. 2 is just where the luck is much more bearable.
I recently 99.99% the game. As i had my purple pikmin collect the golden vaulting table, i realized that i had inadvertently made my character look like them (pink hair, purple suit 😂). It's also my introduction to the series, and I love it ❤
Yeah, the Pikipedia is much better at showing accurate information. As a general rule of thumb, if an independent wiki on a subject exists, then avoid the Fandom equivalent like the plague.
I'm sorry to be so negative, but I'm not a huge fan of this new editing style :( The video was a bit too zoomed in, and the subtitles were too large. This meant a lot of screen space was cut off or filled in. As someone who's played a lot of this game, it was a little disorienting for me. And the subtitles could have used another once-over. Breaking single numbers into multiple lines is jarring, and there were certain instances of misplaced capital letters. That said, I do like that you're experimenting with your style. You're one of the better challenge runners - especially with Pikmin. I just think this experimentation warrants further iteration before it's _just_ right.
I was actually curious on the Last-Frost Cavern revisit count and how much you could take it down by clearing out all of the enemies from every other cave as well. If I tallied everything up correctly, you ended up getting 1,256 Sparklium from all of the other caves combined, so you'd only need 11,254 Sparklium from Last-Frost Cavern instead of the full 12,510. Excluding the first visit to get the treasures, you'd need to re-enter only 1,023 more times, which still sounds pretty exhausting, but nice that you can save yourself 114 dives and be able to take a few breaks to explore more interesting caves along the way. Cool video, always interesting to see breakdowns like this for challenges and such.
I feel like I would want to see this without the enemy sparklium, but this is still really cool. Some really good pathing and planning to minmax your gains.
I imagine not collecting enemies probably only increases the treasure count by 5, 10 max because you may need a couple more early treasures with a lower value
you definately should have pointed that restriction at the beginning of the video. Everyone that knows how this game works would be quick to point out and question why you aren't doing it without explicitly stating the rules.
Technically, you would need 67 (or 6 if you're a masochist) treasures to beat Pikmin 4, because in the last cave, after you defeat the final boss, the dog color is collected automatically and appears in the treasure log.
Technically speaking, if you REALLY wanted to (I don’t know why you would but here goes) you could beat the game with only 3 treasures; the three you have to get. You can redo caves and enemies will respawn, unlike the surface. So you can do *A LOT* of grinding to get all the sparkling without getting a single treasure. And no I do not count dandori treasures, they do not count towards the sparklium counter on the ship, it’s their own thing.
I would like to point out the true minimum would be 6 treasures collected, not 5, since you also need the sirehounds collar at the end of the game, even after grinding Last Frost Cavern
@@pressaTD on the seventh of July 1878, i murdered two families of six, afterwards i was admitted to an Insane asylum in switzerland. Two years into my stay there, i was found in my room, my body lifeless. Now i roam youtube comments to spread misinformation
So you wouldn't necessarily need to enter the Last Frost Cavern the full 1,138 (rounded up) times, because you would still have access to the other caves! While you wouldn't collect any of the treasure in any of the other caves, they do have corpses that you could collect at least once! I don't know what the total extra sparklium would be, or how many trips into the cave it would save, but it's a possibility to ease up on the slog that it would be!
theoretically the minimum is 5 treasures. since last-frost cavern has 2 treasures (i think? it might be 3, in which case minimum is 6) which is the lowest in sun-speckled and you can grind it for 13k (which would take no time at all)
i want to see something for this by doing the least of everything. (finding creatures, collecting treasures and and castaways, and geting least amount of gear)
i wonder how they got the numbers of sparklium wrong when the game itself literally has the number inside of it... like it literally flashes it before then showing the name of the stage!
while you do need to to last frost a billion times. you can cut it down a small bit. while enemies in other caves wont respawn you still can do them once and even getting 44 from 1 cave is 4 less of the first cave needed. i dont know the full unlock requirements but i assume you will still need to find the people and visit other locations at least once for minor stuff so if your going to go there anyways least you can stop a few hundred spark sooner and clear those caves for idk variety on a long and horrible journey
Technically you would have to go to lastfrost cavern a bit less cus you could get the enemy corpses from the other caves still, but you know, not by much
How many times did you say SPARKLIUM in the video? Also, I appreciate the subtitles! I would suggest as feedback from them: 1) Make sure to proofread, but I think people have covered that. 2) They can be uploaded using the CC option so people can turn them on or off as required. I'm assuming if you have a written script this would be easier?
I'm sure somebody will do the enemy grind challenge once it's been 5+ years since the last game. You scrape the bottom of the barrel at some point. And some people enjoy things like that.
you can't forget there are people who crazy tedious challenges i know that there has been people who did max level starting zone challenges like kh destiny islands max level, persona 5 fist dungeon max level,. kh2 twilight max level and those are just the ones i know. so i can totally see someone doing the 5 treasure challenge at some point
Is there an official Low% category yet? If not, this could be it. Heck, splice it with Minimum Pikmin (7) for an Ultra Low% - hours of pain, but plenty of Low% or Max% runs are just as long.
Fair point. It was my first time doing subtitles and I wasn’t sure if they could even be changed since it’s connected to the audio. But definitely something to improve on for the next one
Okay, I'm not against subtitles, but I think the way you present the subtitles here is a little much? Like, give me a sentence at a time, not a few words. That's fine for shorter videos, but a longer one like this having the subs like that gets outright distracting.
Why did you crop the video? Like you showed collecting everything you said so why crop? ... Did you use footage of a normal run and just said the strategies to do low%
I wonder if you also took all the enemy corpses from the other caves as you went, without collecting treasures, (like doing all the sun speckled terrace caves taking corpses, then go back to repeat last frost cavern to get the extra to unlock blossoming arcadia, do those caves taking corpses and no treasures, then go back to repeat last frost cavern until you have enough to go serene shores, and keep doing that onwards) would it significantly decrease the amount of times you need to go through Last frost cavern?... actually let me do the maths. Doing last frost cavern once, + the treasures from it and base camp total a remaining sparklium needed of 12,499 to unlock the primordian Thicket Hectic Hollows: 29, Crackling Cauldron: 29 You'd then need to re-do the Last Frost Cavern enough to get an extra 941 Sparklium to unlock Blossoming Arcadia. Meaning you'd need to do it 86 times, getting 946 Sparlium. Then go to Blossoming Arcadia, having earned a total of 1505 Sparklium, needing 2,495 to unlock serene shores. Going through the saves taking corpses and not treasures results in an extra (34+34+49+154) 271 sparklium. Leaving 2,224 Sparklium needed. Return to Last Frost Cavern to do it another 203 times, earning 2,233 Sparklium, heading to Serene Shores with a total of 4,009 Sparklium, requiring 2,991 Sparklium to Unlock the next area. You know the drill, Serene Shores caves taking only corpses, thats (56+60+82+116) 314 extra Sparklium, Returning to Last Frost Cavern to earn 2677 Sparklium, completing it another 244 times to earn 2684 Sparklium. Flying to Hero's Hideaway with 7007 Sparklium, needing 3,993 Sparklium to get to the 11,000 Needed to go to Giants Hearth. As usual do Hero's Hideaways Cave Corpses, getting (79+96+176) 351 Extra Sparklium, Back to Last frost cavern for the remaining 3642 Sparklium, Doing the cave an extra 332 times to get 3652 Sparklium. Taking us to 11,010 Total. We only need 1,990 to unlock Primordial Thicket, Getting an extra 262 sparklium from the Giant's Hearth Cave Enemies, leaving 1728 more for Last Frost cavern. On the 158th run through of this chunk of Last Frost cavern runs, we'll reach the 13K needed, ending with a total of 13,010 Sparklium. This method still requires a stupid amount of runs of Last Frost Cavern, but would be alot less repetitive and boring, as you'd still get to experience the other areas and caves, and need to do alot less run throughts of Last Frost Cavern. Instead of 1,137 + a bit runs, you'd 'only' need to do 1,024 + a bit. I honestly thought it would cut it down a bit more, but you do end up having to do it 113 less times.
why did you feel the need to add giant captions on the bottom the whole video, if i wanted captions i'd use the captions feature i can hear you just fine
Isn’t this just a variation on the knapsack problem? Did you compute the actual optimal treasure allocation or a good approximation or is this just a best effort guess?
Well couldn't you still collect sparklium from the enemies in the other caves? You would still need to do Lastfrom a bunch, but it wouldn't exactly be 1138 times.
I thought your restriction would be just no enemy corpses, to avoid the respawning problem. How much was collected from just corpses? Maybe would have added 2-3 more treasures to your count?
Could you collect all the treasures in a cave at the start of the game and just grind enemys? It would be the most boring grind but wouldnt it be possible?
I think its funny. If Ty is a lazy rescue corpse member. Then they must be doing a ton of math to find out how much they do and dont need.
I hired Clefairy to do all the math for me
To be fair, with a ship, you need to know exactly how much fuel (in this case sparklium) you need to get to your destination, and how much your ship can hold. It's quite literally rocket science.
They say in America, "If you want a hard job done, put a lazy man on it, and he'll find an easy way to do it."
"What's your new excuse, Lazy Lucy? What's the little scheme you're dreaming, up today? Tell me what's the use, Lazy Lucy? Working very hard to find an, easy way?"
I describe being an engineer as, doing a ton of math and work to be as lazy as possible.
Must be hard to avoid treasure since the whole game is a treasure
I feel like by saying "Who would want to enter Lastfrost Cavern 1137.27 times? Definitely not me." you might accidentally have summoned the patience elemental known as Lemon from the depths of the Backlogs.
It's honestly just a waiting game, not nearly as challenging as some of his normal runs, but also exceedingly flavorless. Avoiding getting board is the real challenge, rather then getting past a frustrating obstacle.
Was going to ask why one wouldn't just re-run the caves.
Where's that one person who's completed a low percent run of Pikmin 2 when you need them?
@@nyon7209 oh yeah that guy
Not only do the Rescue Corps match their outfits and ship to match the color you choose, but if you change it later, they all change as well. I enjoy treating this as you forcing them to repaint the ship simply because you're bored.
"Come on, guys, we need to repaint the ship. We're wearing green now."
@@friendlyyoutubecommenter4527 "We JUST made it orange yesterday!"
@@CyberKirby "Well I think green is a better colour today, let's get painting."
Do not trust the Fandom Pikmin Wikia, you can trust Pikipedia
"10-1000 Sparklium"
Sir, you're forgetting about the Disk of Joyous Wisdom, which is worth just _1_ Sparklium.
Oops, I guess it’s just so forgettable lol
"You're a fortune teller, why did you come here?"
meanwhile the reason she came there is right on the damn screen
Always amused by how much strategy and planning goes into these "minimal effort" challenges. I'm fascinated by your pathing and thought process! Thank you for another great video.
"Unbreakable Promise," left behind, abandoned on a shelf, in a house that has a SAFE!?
And it's still unbroken, isn't it?
Funny thing is, had I had a Switch and a copy of Pikmin 4, I'd be one of those insane individuals that would attempt that.
I really love that you put built in subtitles in the video, but I'd like to request them to be smaller in the future, so you can actually read it via phone and it doesn't update every second rsrs. Regardless, the effort is highly appreciated uwu
Appreciate the feedback! And thank you!
@@pressaTD The substitles are also very innacurate, and I assume that's because they are auto-generated. l
Before watching this, this seems like it is going to be an incredibly obnoxious run given that you will need to farm a ton of corpses. Since enemies respawn in caves once the cave reaches 100%, this run could devolve into bug farming. I don’t envy you at all.
Edit Post-Watch: glad your sanity remains in tact. Thanks for at least mentioning the respawning corpses though.
Also, found this interesting in the video:
Press-A: And who would want to do that?!?! Definitely not me!
CC: Probably not me.
Oh no. . . Good bye future sanity!
I really hope future me doesn’t do this!
If u run a 5treasure% speedrun, you can still get sparklium from enemies in other caves once and pick up some castaways on the way to buy the dog a speed boost. Idk the math on how much sparklium u would save from collecting all the enemies from the other caves, but I bet that would shave some hours off. Oh and u can probably get white pikmin from caves, hopefully enough to quickly carry all the enemies in the 2 treasure cave.
Technically, you also need to collect the Gift of Friendship, though it is not collected manually. Even though it is never carried by Pikmin under your command, you are forced to collect it. But that would increase your total by 1 extra treasure, since you literally have to collect it to finish the game.
Can I just say that I was kind of annoyed at how they structured the series? Like if the whole point of completing a series is it gives you extra sparklium why did they leave so many of them to the last area when you don't need it??? They could have made it more rewarding by letting series be completed throughout the game in roughly equal measure...
Makes me anggy.
It's annoying that 20% of content is locked to the LAST CAVE
For 100%ing the game, it's the same as Pikmin 2. It's not about the sparklium it's about collecting everything. Which also let's you read all of the treasure notes and see the collections of completed series. Some of which have special rewards like the toy train set being fully assembled, the Nintendo set having the games in the consoles, or the puzzle piece set being completed.
I thought you could just keep going into the caves and killing enemies over and over again, then realized you have to 100% the cave to do that.
Would still result in a lot less treasures than he got
@@elaroarhedgedog8891but thats boring.
@@Thing_of_somes welcome to why no one does pikmin 2 low percent
I made this comment before watching the video, and since I actually watched all the way through by now I KNOW!!!
@@FLUDDgate-dc2sp oh, I replied to your comment before I finished.
Entering a cavern 1137.27 times sounds extremely hard. I might be able to do 1138, but that's as close as I can get.
Technically 1137 is closer!
Also it would be possible to beat the game while entering last-frost cavern fewer times. By going through the other caves and collecting all the enemy corpses there once, you can gain more sparklium and reduce how much needs to come from the cavern.
Specifically, in the main video, 1,267 sparklium is collected from enemies in caves. (This does count the 11 from last-frost cavern once.) Combined with the 490 sparklium from the 5 collected treasures, this is 1,757 sparklium, bringing the total we need to collect by repeating last-frost cavern down from 12,510 all the way down to 11,243. This means that instead of needing to repeat last-frost cavern 1137 times, we only need to repeat it 1023 times! (Annoyingly 11,243 is one more than a round multiple of 11, so if there's a single sheargrub anywhere that was missed in the original video, we could bring that down to 1022 repeats exactly, or 1023 total times entering last-frost cavern.)
This saves 115 trips through last-frost cavern!
I did a crude test to estimate how long this would take. I hopped into my complete save file and did 10 runs of last-frost cavern. It took me just under 2 real-life minutes per run (19 minutes total - though most of that was the loading, lol) and the main level timer was almost at the first dot. This means you could likely do around 60 runs per in-game day, taking just under 2 hours. This means it would take just over 17 in-game days or 34 real-life hours just running last-frost cavern to gather enough sparklium.
If you decided to do this run as a full-time job, for 8 hours a day, it would be 4.25 full days of just last-frost cavern grinding.
(I haven't accounted for the amount of time saved by having Oatchi fully upgraded, but I think it only makes a difference to how much damage rushing the blowhog does, so once you have enough pikmin it should be about the same. Plus considering where the timer was, I think another 2 runs would be possible before hitting the first dot on the main area timer, which would mean 72 runs would be possible per in-game day, making the grind around 14.5 in-game days; though this might be cut short at the end of the day by the 10-second countdown.)
@@mariatomlinson2663 1137 being closer doesn't technically matter. because you can't ~really~ do .27 of a run, you'd have to do it 1138 times.
I'd be willing to wager entering any other levels outside of the first would also be a waste of time, as you'd have to do those runs and then end a day. Though I guess the challenge is about minimal treasure, not minimal days so it shouldn't matter. It'd come down to how many in game minutes are required to unlock each cave, versus how many times you could run Lastfrost Cavern in the same time...
I imagine its still probably quicker to run the caves in a day than it is to spam Last Frost Cavern, but couldn't say for sure.
Funny thing about the safe combo: You only need to see two of the cards, and you can just chuck pikmin at the third dial repeatedly. Which is good because one card is kinda out of the way.
Actually, you only need one, that's what the speedrun does. You probably don't need any, but it goes from guessing from 8 with 2 cards, to 72 with 1 card, to 720 with no cards.
Fun fact, the first time I played Pikmin 4, I was fascinated by the safe mechanic. And thought you had to guess it. So I guessed it. It was 614. I do not know what Dandori entity possessed me to grant me such knowledge, but it has not returned since
@@furiouscorgi6614 let me rephrase: you only need 2 cards without any skill
@@weckar fair enough
@@weckar With "Skill" you need no cards, why 2?
Seriously its just luck with 0, 1 or 2 cards, technically. 2 is just where the luck is much more bearable.
Normal people: make fun of how the N64 controllers were designed
Me: makes fun of how the wireless GameCube controllers were designed
I recently 99.99% the game. As i had my purple pikmin collect the golden vaulting table, i realized that i had inadvertently made my character look like them (pink hair, purple suit 😂).
It's also my introduction to the series, and I love it ❤
1:42 Problem #1: that’s Fandom
Exactly
Yeah, the Pikipedia is much better at showing accurate information. As a general rule of thumb, if an independent wiki on a subject exists, then avoid the Fandom equivalent like the plague.
I will be pedantic and say the minimum treasures would be 6, if you count the collar the final boss drops
1:39 Correct, instead you should trust Pikipedia; the only actually competent English Pikmin wiki.
poetic this came out on the 20th anniversary of pikmin 2
I had forgotten some of the reasons I hate this game so much, but you helped me remember. So much busywork and terrible characters...
I'm sorry to be so negative, but I'm not a huge fan of this new editing style :(
The video was a bit too zoomed in, and the subtitles were too large. This meant a lot of screen space was cut off or filled in. As someone who's played a lot of this game, it was a little disorienting for me.
And the subtitles could have used another once-over. Breaking single numbers into multiple lines is jarring, and there were certain instances of misplaced capital letters.
That said, I do like that you're experimenting with your style. You're one of the better challenge runners - especially with Pikmin. I just think this experimentation warrants further iteration before it's _just_ right.
Appreciate the feedback! Rest assured no more subtitle’s going forward lol
You forgot about the Gift Of Friendship, which is the the treasure required to beat the game.
Now we need people to speedrun this now.
I wouldn’t be surprised if someone out there already did this
66 treasures by mere coincidence is also the amount of all fruits in Pikmin 3
I see new video, I click new video.
YES
Agreed
thank you for making all the pikmin 4 challenges i have always wanted to see i want to see a video where you beat the game without oachi next
I was actually curious on the Last-Frost Cavern revisit count and how much you could take it down by clearing out all of the enemies from every other cave as well. If I tallied everything up correctly, you ended up getting 1,256 Sparklium from all of the other caves combined, so you'd only need 11,254 Sparklium from Last-Frost Cavern instead of the full 12,510. Excluding the first visit to get the treasures, you'd need to re-enter only 1,023 more times, which still sounds pretty exhausting, but nice that you can save yourself 114 dives and be able to take a few breaks to explore more interesting caves along the way.
Cool video, always interesting to see breakdowns like this for challenges and such.
I feel like I would want to see this without the enemy sparklium, but this is still really cool. Some really good pathing and planning to minmax your gains.
Thank you! Yeah maybe I should have done a version without collecting any enemies, but I thought the restriction of not recollecting enemies was fair
I imagine not collecting enemies probably only increases the treasure count by 5, 10 max because you may need a couple more early treasures with a lower value
And that’s why low% never caught on with speedrunners.
I mean the enemies respawn in caves so 3 treasures is all you need from the tutorial and that's it to beat the whole game......
Ummm akshually it's 67 because of the sirehound's collar
I'm loving the new editing style! Great job!
Evening, you realise your uploading this at 10:40pm and of course I'm gonna stay up to watch...
What’s another 18 mins of staying up? Lol
Yeah, I stay up for midnight sometimes.
On a school night.
At age 13.
Help me.
@@GlitchythePumpkinbro I'm in your situation, but older
you definately should have pointed that restriction at the beginning of the video. Everyone that knows how this game works would be quick to point out and question why you aren't doing it without explicitly stating the rules.
Crazy idea, but maybe people should finish watching a video before commenting on how to improve what the person in the video is doing
Super underrated, I can’t believe it.
Who did the subtitles for this video? It litteraly says the name correctly at the top of the screen at 14:29 and you still got it wrong.
6 would be the least amount. The collar at the end is mandatory
Who would have the patient to farm the first real cave in the game 1000+ times. Who knows.
Technically, you would need 67 (or 6 if you're a masochist) treasures to beat Pikmin 4, because in the last cave, after you defeat the final boss, the dog color is collected automatically and appears in the treasure log.
Now do what's the least amount of sparklium you can collect by getting all treasure and at least 1 creature
how dare you say 69 without the much needed "Nice"
If the creatures do give Sparklium, then the correct answer is only the tutorial tresearues (creatures respawn in caves when rivisting them)
More than the tutorial treasures are needed as a cave needs to be fully completed for enemies to respawn
Technically speaking, if you REALLY wanted to (I don’t know why you would but here goes) you could beat the game with only 3 treasures; the three you have to get. You can redo caves and enemies will respawn, unlike the surface. So you can do *A LOT* of grinding to get all the sparkling without getting a single treasure.
And no I do not count dandori treasures, they do not count towards the sparklium counter on the ship, it’s their own thing.
I would like to point out the true minimum would be 6 treasures collected, not 5, since you also need the sirehounds collar at the end of the game, even after grinding Last Frost Cavern
TLDR: you need 0 tresure, as you can just rerun caves after you 100% them to get infinite sparklium
Yes but you need to collect all the treasure in a cave for enemies to respawn
@@pressaTD on the seventh of July 1878, i murdered two families of six, afterwards i was admitted to an Insane asylum in switzerland. Two years into my stay there, i was found in my room, my body lifeless.
Now i roam youtube comments to spread misinformation
So you wouldn't necessarily need to enter the Last Frost Cavern the full 1,138 (rounded up) times, because you would still have access to the other caves! While you wouldn't collect any of the treasure in any of the other caves, they do have corpses that you could collect at least once! I don't know what the total extra sparklium would be, or how many trips into the cave it would save, but it's a possibility to ease up on the slog that it would be!
How do you enter an area 0.27 times?
You'd enter 1,138 times. It's just that the last time would require only a quarter of the enemies killed.
THANK YOU it's such a simple concept and people aren't getting it sadly lol
theoretically the minimum is 5 treasures. since last-frost cavern has 2 treasures (i think? it might be 3, in which case minimum is 6) which is the lowest in sun-speckled and you can grind it for 13k (which would take no time at all)
i want to see something for this by doing the least of everything. (finding creatures, collecting treasures and and castaways, and geting least amount of gear)
Please watch the video to the end before commenting
8:59 it also changes oatchi's collar color :)
that's what you get for using the fandom wiki instead of pikipedia
i wonder how they got the numbers of sparklium wrong when the game itself literally has the number inside of it... like it literally flashes it before then showing the name of the stage!
while you do need to to last frost a billion times. you can cut it down a small bit. while enemies in other caves wont respawn you still can do them once and even getting 44 from 1 cave is 4 less of the first cave needed. i dont know the full unlock requirements but i assume you will still need to find the people and visit other locations at least once for minor stuff so if your going to go there anyways least you can stop a few hundred spark sooner and clear those caves for idk variety on a long and horrible journey
Technically you would have to go to lastfrost cavern a bit less cus you could get the enemy corpses from the other caves still, but you know, not by much
Yes fair point!
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How many times did you say SPARKLIUM in the video?
Also, I appreciate the subtitles! I would suggest as feedback from them:
1) Make sure to proofread, but I think people have covered that.
2) They can be uploaded using the CC option so people can turn them on or off as required. I'm assuming if you have a written script this would be easier?
Probably too many times. And appreciate the feedback! I think the consensus is to just not include subtitles lol
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Hey. Just saw you hit 30k Subs. Congrats c:
Thank you!
Cool video keep up the great work!
I'm sure somebody will do the enemy grind challenge once it's been 5+ years since the last game. You scrape the bottom of the barrel at some point. And some people enjoy things like that.
I wouldn’t be surprised if someone already did this lol
This is a really cool video and can you do a Pikmin nuzlock
I’ve been streaming a Pikmin 4 Nuzlocke-ish challenge which will be turned into a video when completed
you can't forget there are people who crazy tedious challenges i know that there has been people who did max level starting zone challenges like kh destiny islands max level, persona 5 fist dungeon max level,. kh2 twilight max level and those are just the ones i know. so i can totally see someone doing the 5 treasure challenge at some point
All the best to whoever wants to do this lol
I’ve managed to beat the game without any upgrades but items were allowed. [so no captain, dog or onion upgrades]
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Is there an official Low% category yet? If not, this could be it. Heck, splice it with Minimum Pikmin (7) for an Ultra Low% - hours of pain, but plenty of Low% or Max% runs are just as long.
What’s with the sudden big subtitles? It would be nice if they were a bit smaller if you like them
I know I realize now how obnoxious they are, I was just trying something new which I now regret lol
There's no point in adding subtitles to the video if you're not going to make sure they're correct.
Fair point. It was my first time doing subtitles and I wasn’t sure if they could even be changed since it’s connected to the audio. But definitely something to improve on for the next one
@@pressaTDThen don't make them connected to the audio! It's that simple!
Apparently oatchi can have a leaf tail in the blossoming Arcadia, also if oatchi was small on the first day,
then how did you get to hectic hollows?
Okay, I'm not against subtitles, but I think the way you present the subtitles here is a little much? Like, give me a sentence at a time, not a few words. That's fine for shorter videos, but a longer one like this having the subs like that gets outright distracting.
Appreciate the feedback. I was experimenting with subtitles for this but I agree it’s too much and not needed for these kind of videos
Why did you crop the video?
Like you showed collecting everything you said so why crop?
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Did you use footage of a normal run and just said the strategies to do low%
2:44 Nice!
I wonder if you also took all the enemy corpses from the other caves as you went, without collecting treasures, (like doing all the sun speckled terrace caves taking corpses, then go back to repeat last frost cavern to get the extra to unlock blossoming arcadia, do those caves taking corpses and no treasures, then go back to repeat last frost cavern until you have enough to go serene shores, and keep doing that onwards) would it significantly decrease the amount of times you need to go through Last frost cavern?... actually let me do the maths.
Doing last frost cavern once, + the treasures from it and base camp total a remaining sparklium needed of 12,499 to unlock the primordian Thicket
Hectic Hollows: 29, Crackling Cauldron: 29
You'd then need to re-do the Last Frost Cavern enough to get an extra 941 Sparklium to unlock Blossoming Arcadia. Meaning you'd need to do it 86 times, getting 946 Sparlium.
Then go to Blossoming Arcadia, having earned a total of 1505 Sparklium, needing 2,495 to unlock serene shores. Going through the saves taking corpses and not treasures results in an extra (34+34+49+154) 271 sparklium. Leaving 2,224 Sparklium needed. Return to Last Frost Cavern to do it another 203 times, earning 2,233 Sparklium, heading to Serene Shores with a total of 4,009 Sparklium, requiring 2,991 Sparklium to Unlock the next area.
You know the drill, Serene Shores caves taking only corpses, thats (56+60+82+116) 314 extra Sparklium, Returning to Last Frost Cavern to earn 2677 Sparklium, completing it another 244 times to earn 2684 Sparklium. Flying to Hero's Hideaway with 7007 Sparklium, needing 3,993 Sparklium to get to the 11,000 Needed to go to Giants Hearth. As usual do Hero's Hideaways Cave Corpses, getting (79+96+176) 351 Extra Sparklium, Back to Last frost cavern for the remaining 3642 Sparklium, Doing the cave an extra 332 times to get 3652 Sparklium. Taking us to 11,010 Total. We only need 1,990 to unlock Primordial Thicket,
Getting an extra 262 sparklium from the Giant's Hearth Cave Enemies, leaving 1728 more for Last Frost cavern. On the 158th run through of this chunk of Last Frost cavern runs, we'll reach the 13K needed, ending with a total of 13,010 Sparklium.
This method still requires a stupid amount of runs of Last Frost Cavern, but would be alot less repetitive and boring, as you'd still get to experience the other areas and caves, and need to do alot less run throughts of Last Frost Cavern. Instead of 1,137 + a bit runs, you'd 'only' need to do 1,024 + a bit.
I honestly thought it would cut it down a bit more, but you do end up having to do it 113 less times.
TLDR; If you also do the other caves once for just enemies as you unlock areas, you'd run Last Frost Cavern 113 less times.
Couldn't you just 100% the cave with the least things, then keep entering and exiting to farm enemies?
amazing vid bro!
Thank you!
I was wondering this, thanks
Monsters will respawn in the caves if you collect all the treasure, but that might be against the rules
Edit: Oh yeah, you said that at the end
I talk about this at the end of the video but yes I put a restriction on myself where I couldn’t recollect enemies
Great video!
why did you feel the need to add giant captions on the bottom the whole video, if i wanted captions i'd use the captions feature i can hear you just fine
Isn’t this just a variation on the knapsack problem? Did you compute the actual optimal treasure allocation or a good approximation or is this just a best effort guess?
Well couldn't you still collect sparklium from the enemies in the other caves? You would still need to do Lastfrom a bunch, but it wouldn't exactly be 1138 times.
Yes fair point!
I thought your restriction would be just no enemy corpses, to avoid the respawning problem. How much was collected from just corpses? Maybe would have added 2-3 more treasures to your count?
Could you collect all the treasures in a cave at the start of the game and just grind enemys? It would be the most boring grind but wouldnt it be possible?
Lol yes I talk about this at the end of the video. It would be an insane amount so I put a restriction on myself where I couldn’t recollect enemies
@@pressaTD oh nice. Sorry I missed that
I retract my comment since you mentioned it at the end of the video, hek
Erm technically, if you grind four hours of your life collecting any corpses, you technically don’t need to collect any treasures I was I think 🤓🤓
Hey why did that one video get taken down? I saw a video about surviving pikmen and it disappeared before I could watch it
Currently we have the vods unlisted
I feel like these style of subtitles are a bit self defeating, because they go away too fast.
Just now realized you made another mistake: the Dusty Bed is actually worth 150 Sparklium, not 159.
why is your voice different from previous videos
different guy
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I feel like not enough people are mentioning this.
I don’t know why, but I feel that you’re a bit dead on the inside. Is the pikmin challenges getting to you Or the paper Mario one?
2:43 nice
low% speedrun complete, Any%/5-Treasure speedrun when? It's only 1.137.27 times. It can't be THAT bad, right? :D
I’ll live stream it when I do so we can all suffer together lol
Why is there mandatory captioning?
PIKMIN4 VIDEO YAY
Love the video, subtitles are great, but showing numbers like 1637 as
1
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Seperately is very confusing. Can you show the whole number, please
Appreciate it! And yeah I recognize the subtitles definitely need improvement