Actually Press A is a Tsundere who actually loves you sooo much that he can only express his love through being mean because he doesn't know a better way to express his love
About the disapearing watermellon piece, the first piece of fruit you collect in a playthrough is always a cutscene (usualy intended for the sunseed berry in the garden of hope), but because the watermellon was the first piece, the drake tried doing that cutscene with that
I was just about to comment this. It takes the first fruit you ever collect for analyzing to see if it's edible and then all the fruit after that registers
yeah, this is exactly what happened lol. i can understand being confused, but the first fruit you collect gives a cutscene about it, so it doesn’t pop up on the right side.
@@pressaTD My hypothesis is that the game didn't expect the first fruit you collected to be part of a multi-piece fruit, so it glitched trying to show the cutscene. However, it still juiced and processed the piece as though it had. Because the behaviour you encountered is essentially what would have happened if you had juiced one piece of the watermelon, finished the day, then brought back the rest the next day (So essentially, your first piece of watermelon was juiced in its own pseudo day, but the cutscene glitched and was skipped)
@@pressaTD They means it shows it as soon as you collect it. In the gameplay, as you collect the first piece, a cutscene started- notated as the skip prompt at 14 mins in. THAT's the cutscene where the watermelon was juiced.
@@pressaTD You did seem to skip it, it triggers at 13:05 in the video; the very first fruit you collect is immediately juiced on its own, rather than stocked for the end of the day
Knowing now that Louie won't steal your fruit if you have nothing to steal, I wonder how many days you can stall him for after rescuing him by only collecting enough fruit for exactly one canister each day.
Does that mean you can softlock by collecting all the available fruit, consuming all but one juice, then saving him on the last day? I know even in that case you would just rewind to an earlier day, but it'd still be weird to give the player an unwinnable day.
What happened on day 4 with the watermelon is fairly simple. The first time you collect a fruit in the game, it automatically juices it and plays a cutscene, which you probably skipped. It still counted the watermelon piece, it just didn't update the fruit icon in the corner
I assume it didn't update the counter properly since it was already juiced, so it wouldn't be listed in the list of fruits currently in storage, similarly to how the first strawberry you (normally) collect on day 2 works
the funniest detail of pikmin 3 is that if you check the file select and return to day 1 you will find out they actually started out with 7 canisters of food, a clever reference to the fact the least ammount of days is 7
14:18 I believe I know. In a typical playthrough, the first fruit you get is juiced on the spot, whether it be a strawberry or a lemon, the very first fruit you ever get is immediately juiced. As a result, it doesn't show up at the end of day count. My theory is the first watermelon piece got juiced the moment it was collected, and you likely skipped the acquisition cutscene (or it just didn't play for some reason) thus explaining why you only had 4 pieces at the end count, and half a bottle was already full: The first piece was actually juiced, you just didn't see it. Hope you see this, PA!
I believe the actual reason for the first piece not counting is because collecting your first fruit triggers a cutscene where it automatically turns it into juice. Since you didnt collect fruit beforehand you triggered this cutscene with a watermelon piece
13:48 it is because the first piece of watermelon was the first piece of fruit you collected and the game turns your first piece of fruit right in juice
Video Spoilers: So, you said your goal was the minimum NUMBER of fruit pieces collected. If the number of pieces is the goal, then wouldn’t you try and only collect the pieces that have the highest juice yields? Grapes are horrible since they give so little juice per fruit piece. Whereas the watermelon half is excellent as it gives 1.5 juices. Wouldn’t it make more sense to collect the watermelon half (1.5 juice), one of the other largest pieces of watermelon (0.5 juices), and half of a starfruit (1 juice) for 3 juices total with only 3 pieces of fruit? Edit: You definitely over complicated it for yourself! Glad to see you made it there in the end though 😂
For the watermelon piece glitch, I think the phone was collected at the exact same time, triggering a cutscene and stopping parts of the collection process from occurring.
14:36 no this is not a glitch whenever you collect your first piece of fruit of the play through it will show a cutscene of it getting juiced instead of at the end of the day to show new players that collecting fruit will give you more days at least I'm pretty sure that's what happens as for why it doesn't show up as being collected I have no clue. By the way I absolutely love the content and the Pikmin challenge runs can't wait to see Pikmin 1 red's only if that ever does happen that challenge sounds absolutely insane.
hey, that first piece of watermelon was not a bug, you skipped the cutscene that happens when you get your first piece of fruit. It also juices it for you during the cutscene.
For shaggy long legs early You don't actually have to dodge the loading zone. You can go to where you throw captains to a ledge and hold a Pikmin and walk at the right angle and glitch up on a wall to get to shaggy long legs. :)
Ive watched all the pikmin videos you've made in the last 5 months starting with the pikmin 3 video beating it without a whistle. I have never played a pikmin game, but I enjoy your content. Thank you for the videos
Basically what is happening with the watermelon is the game expects you to pick up a strawberry in the garden of hope, right before you unlock Brittney, upon doing so it triggers a cut scene where the strawberry is juiced in the middle of the day, since you skipped this, I think it confused the game and automatically juiced the watermelon as if it was the strawberry
A: It takes 7 pieces Me: Why not use halves that have more juice to need less? A: All you need are 3 star fruit pieces Me: Why not use the watermelon pieces to make it easier? A: It takes 1 star fruit piece and 2 watermelon Me: About time
I'm really amazed, not just he finished the game with only 7 pieces of fruit, he finished the game in 7 days, something I think I'm not good enough to do. Not satisfied, he them tryed to finish the game with just 3 piece of fruits. He achieved it. Congratulations guy, you are incredible!
when the meerslug is doing the underground phase, I believe it's possible to charge a large amount of pikmin onto its lips (it might need to be rock pikmin but I'm not sure) and it'll do enough damage to make it fly up into the air before it gets the chance to eat any pikmin.
14:06 so what I think it is, is that it's supposed to be a cutscene for when you collect your first fruit, where the Drake will process it and notify you, interupting the gameplay to show it to you, before letting you resume. So it won't pop up at thr end of the day with the rest of the fruit you gathered, and if I remember correctly it doesn't even show the icon on the side since it's already processed and everything. It typically happens with the strawberry at the start, but since that usually gives a jar and a half of fruit, it also shows the extra jar which thegame does indicate on thr counter. Since the watermelon piece wasn't enough on its own to give you a whole jar of juice, and since you used speedrun tactics and played the game before I'm assuming you're skipping small cutscenes like that, and since it wasn't enough you won't find the counter moved, the piece already processed, and the juice poured. Also yes I'm a dork
The first fruit you acquire in a playthrough automatically triggers a cutscene where the ship juices it. Which is why the first piece didn't show and why there was already juice in the canister
the star fruit solution is three half pieces of fruit, so 1.5 and the solution you did was 5/6 and 2/10, so one and one thirtieth of a fruit, and is therefore less fruit. but the two watermelon pieces and one star fruit piece is still less since that's 2/6 and 1/2 so it's ultimately 5/6ths of a fruit.
Found this channel about a week ago and have been binging your challenge videos. (Had no idea just how broken Pikmin 1 and 2 are, dang!) Though it turned out you didn't need it in the end, I'll just say you don't have to solve squat for the star fruit in Tropical Wilds. You can just lock on to it and charge Winged Pikmin to tear it down. All these years later I still remember that being the first thing I tried on my first playthrough. Only way I've ever gotten it on several runs.
About the watermelon thing. The first fruit you ever collect. The game has a cutscene where it analyzes and juices the fruit to teach you how to get more food. Normally this is done in Day 2 but because you skipped all the fruit it led to this Watermelom being used up in the tutorial, so the first piece is juiced up right when you get it instead of being saved for the end of the day like the rest
14:08 I can actually explain this one. basically, a cutscene is supposed to play when you get the very first strawberry you encounter on day 2, however it most likely doesn't apply to watermelon pieces on day 4 since the game A: doesn't count the watermelon as a full fruit, and B: doesn't expect you to get a watermelon as your first fruit. the cutscene itself shows the fruit being analysed and then being turned into juice saving the seeds for later. since you collected the first watermelon piece not only did the cutscene not play, but it also just gave you the juice. as an added note, the strawberry on day one doesn't register as a collected fruit either so maybe it's just hard coded into the game.
the first piece of fruit is automatically juiced, because there's normally the whole cutscene with the strawberry on the day you rescue brittany. if you skip the strawberry then the next fruit you get is counted as the "first fruit" and gets juiced regardless
Regarding the watermelon piece, when you collect your first fruit of the playthrough a cutscene plays juicing it immediately, normally this is with the strawberry in the garden of hope but the game is flexible and does it with whatever
The first watermelon disappeared because when you usually collect fruit for the first time it activates a cutscene which auto juices it so that’s what happened
The shaggy long legs in distant tundra can be reached as soon as you build both bridges by going back into the yellow onion cave and throwing a captain. It's still too slow, but it doesn't require the winged pikmin
The firs time you collect a fruit is is automatically added as juice, complete with a cutscene telling you that fruit gets juiced, all others are added at end of day. You're supposed to do it with the strawberry, and not a partial fruit. The partial fruit being the first one breaks the cutscene, but still adds the juice
My theory with the watermelon is that since it was the first fruit collected on the file, the game would have played the cutscene for when you analyze your first fruit and it juices said fruit in the middle of the day. Since the fruit would have already been juiced, the game would see no need to keep it updated on the counter as that might cause an issue where the game gives you extra juice from one piece of fruit
I don't know if this is necessary anymore but the reason why the watermelon dissapears is because when you grab the first strawberry in the game a cutescene shows it being transformed into juice the moment you collect it, so, the game doesn't know how to process that the fruit is not a strawberry and just skips the cutescene of the first fruit being transformed.
14:04 It was the first fruit you collected during the entire play through. If you played the game how it was designed to, the first fruit you collect (a strawberry) is analyzed and juiced as soon as it’s collected, even if it’s in the middle of the day. You skipped the cutscene, so it seemed like the piece wasn’t registered, though it was. It’s no glitch, it’s just what happens when you bring your first fruit to the S.S. Drake.
What happened with the fruit is that normally you get the Sunseed Berry first which then triggers a cutscene where the Drake juices it for you immediatley and doesn't count it. But since your first fruit was the Watermelon piece first it did the same thing but without the cutscene most likely due to the fact Nintendo didn't predict you getting a fruit that far in the game first.
The missing watermelon is caused by the cutscene that plays when you get your first fruit, but due to it not being a full fruit the cutscene is skipped
14:24 I know what's happening! When you collect your first piece of any fruit the game plays a cutscene for it, not count it in the UI, and automatically juice it. In a normal playthrough, this cutscene will play for the sunseed berry in the garden of hope. But because you skip it the game treated the watermelon piece as the first piece of fruit.
14:18 since it was your first fruit, the game would usually do that cutscene where you juice the strawberry instantly, but since you didn’t get a strawberry, the game freaked out and just didn’t count it and turned into juice.
So, let's go over the "glitch" with the Watermelon. When you first collect a piece of fruit, the juicing mechanic is explained through a cutscene where the animation that normally is played at the end of the day is played immediately to show you gaining juice. However, because of how the game is coded that fruit has to be removed from your collection history for the day to keep it from being juiced at the end of the day. So the juice for the first fruit you collect is instantly added into your food reserves. In this instance, because the game doesn't register the multi piece fruit as collected until all the pieces are collected, the game never triggered the flag to play the juicing cutscene but still awarded you the juice and removed the first piece from the collection history since that flag is tied to the collection and not the triggering of the fruit increment counter. If you still have the save file, I'd be really curious to see you go back to that day and collect all the pieces to see what that cutscene would look like. If it would only juice the first piece found or all 6 pieces.
What could have happened with the watermelon is the game glitched out because normally your first fruit has a cutscene where it’s juiced immediately, and the game didn’t know what to do with the watermelon and not a strawberry so it just juiced it immediately with no cutscene
the first fruit you get in this game causes a juicing cutscene to start (think the strawberry in the garden of hope) so since it's already been juiced it doesn't appear in the end of day juicing cutscene
from outward appearances, the only way to reduce the fruit count further would be to change the metric for counting, being that 7 days is a hard minimum. if we say a Piece of Fruit is equal to a Whole Fruit and forego the in-game count, I'm sure you can route 2 fruits w/ a 2.5 & .5, or a 2 & 1 juice fruit pairing (this seems like the most likely evolution imo). alternatively, we count a partial fruit as equal to its corresponding whole fruit (collecting 1 grape from a bunch is counted the same as collecting all 20) at which point, collecting the whole watermelon would be a "single" fruit which fulfills the entire 3-juice requirement on its own
You don't have to do the entire weight puzzle in Tropical Wilds to get the Star Fruit. You can throw Yellows onto the fruit from the ledge just up from the first "elevator". Throw 10 Yellows up the first ledge, put lone Captain onto elevator, throw two Yellows onto bouncy mushroom, throw 10 Yellows onto Star Fruit, done.
The problem you had with the watermelon was because you got your first fruit. They’re supposed to be a cut scene showing the fruit getting juiced during the day but the game probably didn’t register the cut scene because it’s supposed to be done at the garden of Hope. You want proof, start a new game of Pikmin three and go to the point where you find your first strawberry collect it and see what happens😁
2:29 Protip, when a youtuber says something like this, what they actually mean is, "I want to watch the video I'm working on, but if I have to spend one more minute researching and editing this thing I'm going to flip a biscuit! It's good enough okay I'm done, someone else do it better and then link me the results so I can have proper closure." Or at least, that's what I mean when i issue such a challenge to my audience.
heres my theory for the watermelon thing: the game normaly plays a cutscene when you collect your first fruit so I think that that cutscene was supposed to play for your first part of the watermellon that was collected but it didn't because you weren't meant to collect your first piece of fruit that late into the game so it didn't play the cutscene
Re: Missing Watermelon The fruit on the side of the screen are fruit that have not been juiced yet. Since the watermelon was the first fruit collected in the run, the cutscene for juicing it played but he skipped it. Just like when you connect the first strawberry, you get a cutscene and it doesn't appear in the side of the screen.
Ok, I know what happened with the watermelon piece. The first time you collect a fruit in the game, there's a cutscene where the Drake shows you the fruit and make it into juice. You probably skipped that cutscene and didn't notice, so the first piece of watermelon was already been made into juice
I have a theory on the watermelon. If I recall correctly, the first fruit collected triggers a special animation and is then juiced immediately. My theory is that not creating a full juice somehow bugged this cutscene and didn't play it.
The water Mellon glitch was because you never triggered the cutscene of getting your first fruit which automatically juices it during the day but the watermelon was your first fruit so the game glitched so it automatically juiced it but it did not play the cuttsence
14:25 when you get your first fruit, a cutscene plays and juices it automaticly. It doesn't show as an icon after. You skipped that cutscene. Because the first fruit you're suppost to get is the Sunseed Berry but in your case it's a Crimson Banquet, it isn't able to fill a whole glass of juice.
During normal Pikmin 3 gameplay, once you collect your first piece of fruit the game will interrupt you with a cutscene of it juicing the fruit, the first fruit you ever collect will be juiced instantly after collecting instead of at the end of the day, my guess is that because this scene happens in garden of hope and you were in tropical wilds when you first collected your first fruit (it being the watermelon mind you) the game had a brain fart because it technically shouldn’t be possible for you to do that, so it skips any cutscene, I bet if the first piece to go in was the biggest one, it would have shown you that you got a jar out of the blue
Good job getting the count down to 1.16~ fruit! Depending on how you count the watermelon, 2/6 pieces is either 1/3. 2/3 juice canisters could be, 2/3, or the large half piece and medium quarter piece could be 3/4. Add that to the 1/2 a starfruit and bam, you get a differing value. I'm of the opinion that the best run is either the absolute least collections total to get the 3 canisters, OR, the least total collected, using the juice rating of each piece as a measure of collection percentage... which, I think only the watermelon has differing values on individual pieces to really matter? but still.
14:02 actually what happened is the game usually forces you into a cutscene when you collect ur very FIRST piece of fruit. This cutscene actually shows the fruit being juiced MID-DAY thus adding juice to a canister. You skipped this cutscene so that's probably why it didnt make any sense on how you had juice already. Also you probably need to still count that one then bc it does indeed exist
I think i know what happened with the watermelon. That was the first fruit you have collected in the run, which was pretty far in by game standards. I think what happened was that the game was expecting to already have a partial, so it just assumed the watermelon piece was collected on a previous day.
It's already been said, but I feel I MUST. The first fruit you collect in the game always plays a cutscene where the fruit is juiced. If I had to guess you just skipped it and didn't realize.
You know, I might be imagining it, but I'm starting to suspect Press A doesn't think very highly of me.
Actually Press A is a Tsundere who actually loves you sooo much that he can only express his love through being mean because he doesn't know a better way to express his love
Me, a Pikmin content enjoyer: yes, keep feuding
The only way he’s actually doing that is to somehow do a dark souls challenge as a flex, but how would he go about it? And which souls game?
Maybe you two do the Pikmin 3 DLCs co-op?
@@Grayfox251any souls game, fist only would be the ultimate flex
Lemon loses by default because he is, in fact, a fruit.
_"What? No... that's doesn't--"_
☁
"And I'm not talking homosexual, I mean a literal fruit. Eggplant!"
@@RealestShaggyRogers I think you mean *LEMON!*
@@fr3y438 It's a reference. DBZ abridged baybeeee!
About the disapearing watermellon piece, the first piece of fruit you collect in a playthrough is always a cutscene (usualy intended for the sunseed berry in the garden of hope), but because the watermellon was the first piece, the drake tried doing that cutscene with that
I was just about to comment this. It takes the first fruit you ever collect for analyzing to see if it's edible and then all the fruit after that registers
I also wanted to comment this.😂😂😂😂
Bro really skipped the cutscene and then blamed the game.
yeah, this is exactly what happened lol. i can understand being confused, but the first fruit you collect gives a cutscene about it, so it doesn’t pop up on the right side.
@@martinmnagell2894 Nah the game just never even played it
I love this feud so much because it means we get twice the pikmin content
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
This is just like when my parents divorced and told me I would get two birthdays!
@@Genevis ummmmmmmmmmmm
@@Genevis Hahaha so funny...
@@throwaway7679 It’s funny because it’s true, my parents are actually divorced!
I love how you specifically credit the game over screen as Lemon's footage, because no way you would have gotten that screen yourself
The first fruit you collect will show the cutscene of it turning to juice in the moment you collect it.
You must have skipped it
just what I was going to say
I didn’t skip it, I swear. That was the first thing I checked. In the footage it doesn’t even show five pieces of watermelon just the 4.
@@pressaTD My hypothesis is that the game didn't expect the first fruit you collected to be part of a multi-piece fruit, so it glitched trying to show the cutscene. However, it still juiced and processed the piece as though it had.
Because the behaviour you encountered is essentially what would have happened if you had juiced one piece of the watermelon, finished the day, then brought back the rest the next day (So essentially, your first piece of watermelon was juiced in its own pseudo day, but the cutscene glitched and was skipped)
@@pressaTD They means it shows it as soon as you collect it. In the gameplay, as you collect the first piece, a cutscene started- notated as the skip prompt at 14 mins in. THAT's the cutscene where the watermelon was juiced.
@@pressaTD You did seem to skip it, it triggers at 13:05 in the video; the very first fruit you collect is immediately juiced on its own, rather than stocked for the end of the day
28:57 “And, on my second try, I didn’t lose a single Pikmin.”
Shows footage of him losing a single Pikmin
"On my second try, I didn't lose a single Pikmin."
The one soul visibly seen floating away: 🗿
I think the baby crying in the background is my favorite part of the video.
i thought i was imagining that lol
31:16 ish?
Oh that was the video? I thought that was coming from outside my window!
@@Shadowonwater...i sure hope you don't live on like the 5th floor of a building or something
Knowing now that Louie won't steal your fruit if you have nothing to steal, I wonder how many days you can stall him for after rescuing him by only collecting enough fruit for exactly one canister each day.
Does that mean you can softlock by collecting all the available fruit, consuming all but one juice, then saving him on the last day? I know even in that case you would just rewind to an earlier day, but it'd still be weird to give the player an unwinnable day.
It actually not even possible he was will steal the one canister of juice
Will not was
@@Thegamer176-f3y a little secret: you can edit comments
What happened on day 4 with the watermelon is fairly simple. The first time you collect a fruit in the game, it automatically juices it and plays a cutscene, which you probably skipped. It still counted the watermelon piece, it just didn't update the fruit icon in the corner
I assume it didn't update the counter properly since it was already juiced, so it wouldn't be listed in the list of fruits currently in storage, similarly to how the first strawberry you (normally) collect on day 2 works
It is that, PLUS not having any juice at that time.
LOL THE RIVALRY CONTINUES.
We need to see press a do a dark souls challenge one of these days
It would only be fair, lmao
Oh I’m so down
@@pressaTD YES
Oh man, Lemons gonna be upset 😭
Let's hope he starts doing more Pikmin challenges tho! I love the rivalry between you and Lemon! It's awesome ^^
The happy baby noises made this guy somehow even more endearing than he already was, idk a more wholesome and entertaining gaming channel rn
That’s why I left them in and not totally not because I was lazy
The drake always juices the first fruit you find in a cutscene you can skip. The game just expects it to be the strawberry that you pass by on day 2.
You should enter Lemon’s domain and try a dark souls challenge run! That would be an interesting experience lol
I think that’s the plan lol
@@pressaTD*Watches pikmin rip apart the tauros demon*
the funniest detail of pikmin 3 is that if you check the file select and return to day 1 you will find out they actually started out with 7 canisters of food, a clever reference to the fact the least ammount of days is 7
According to someone else (not sure if it's true or not) they left with 7 juice canisters and lost 4 in the first crash
Lemon: does any sort of Pikmin challenge
Press A: “Hold my beer”
Real
I'm absolutely in love with this little rivalry, it's made me subscribe to both of you!
I just found your two's rivalry, and I've been loving it lol
I just watched his no fruit run yesterday
14:18 I believe I know. In a typical playthrough, the first fruit you get is juiced on the spot, whether it be a strawberry or a lemon, the very first fruit you ever get is immediately juiced. As a result, it doesn't show up at the end of day count. My theory is the first watermelon piece got juiced the moment it was collected, and you likely skipped the acquisition cutscene (or it just didn't play for some reason) thus explaining why you only had 4 pieces at the end count, and half a bottle was already full: The first piece was actually juiced, you just didn't see it.
Hope you see this, PA!
The plot twist is that Lemon and A are the same person just using a voice mod
I believe the actual reason for the first piece not counting is because collecting your first fruit triggers a cutscene where it automatically turns it into juice. Since you didnt collect fruit beforehand you triggered this cutscene with a watermelon piece
I agree I was going to say the same thing
13:48 it is because the first piece of watermelon was the first piece of fruit you collected and the game turns your first piece of fruit right in juice
Saw video title and immediately went "oh this is a fued video isn't it" lol
Video Spoilers:
So, you said your goal was the minimum NUMBER of fruit pieces collected. If the number of pieces is the goal, then wouldn’t you try and only collect the pieces that have the highest juice yields?
Grapes are horrible since they give so little juice per fruit piece. Whereas the watermelon half is excellent as it gives 1.5 juices.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to collect the watermelon half (1.5 juice), one of the other largest pieces of watermelon (0.5 juices), and half of a starfruit (1 juice) for 3 juices total with only 3 pieces of fruit?
Edit: You definitely over complicated it for yourself! Glad to see you made it there in the end though 😂
For the watermelon piece glitch, I think the phone was collected at the exact same time, triggering a cutscene and stopping parts of the collection process from occurring.
15:28 We dandori today, so we can dandori tomorrow, so we can dandori as many times as it takes to beat twilight river in a single day!
14:36 no this is not a glitch whenever you collect your first piece of fruit of the play through it will show a cutscene of it getting juiced instead of at the end of the day to show new players that collecting fruit will give you more days at least I'm pretty sure that's what happens as for why it doesn't show up as being collected I have no clue. By the way I absolutely love the content and the Pikmin challenge runs can't wait to see Pikmin 1 red's only if that ever does happen that challenge sounds absolutely insane.
hey, that first piece of watermelon was not a bug, you skipped the cutscene that happens when you get your first piece of fruit. It also juices it for you during the cutscene.
For shaggy long legs early You don't actually have to dodge the loading zone. You can go to where you throw captains to a ledge and hold a Pikmin and walk at the right angle and glitch up on a wall to get to shaggy long legs. :)
The tech in this is so crazy dude mad props
Well done ! Progressing game knowledge out of spite and rivalry is such a beautiful thing to witness :)
Ive watched all the pikmin videos you've made in the last 5 months starting with the pikmin 3 video beating it without a whistle. I have never played a pikmin game, but I enjoy your content. Thank you for the videos
I like seeing people talking about multi part fruits in this game. They made finding out how many flavors of juice there are total absolute hell.
28:57 You can see the ghost of a pikmin that just died. Yes you did lose a single pikmin.
Basically what is happening with the watermelon is the game expects you to pick up a strawberry in the garden of hope, right before you unlock Brittney, upon doing so it triggers a cut scene where the strawberry is juiced in the middle of the day, since you skipped this, I think it confused the game and automatically juiced the watermelon as if it was the strawberry
The first premise to the run is rivalry and I'm all in for this!
Pikmin: No Fruits Challenge
(Dan and Ty have to find someone else to play the game for them.)
Don't diss our academy!
kidding, your videos have been a great way to learn more and more about Pikmin, and great fun too
A: It takes 7 pieces
Me: Why not use halves that have more juice to need less?
A: All you need are 3 star fruit pieces
Me: Why not use the watermelon pieces to make it easier?
A: It takes 1 star fruit piece and 2 watermelon
Me: About time
This fued is hilarious the gaslight from lemon
i'm surprised nobody has created a pikmin low percent until now
Been binging your stuff recently and it’s really making me wanna replay all of Pikmin 1-3 again, since I just played 4 last summer
I'm really amazed, not just he finished the game with only 7 pieces of fruit, he finished the game in 7 days, something I think I'm not good enough to do. Not satisfied, he them tryed to finish the game with just 3 piece of fruits. He achieved it. Congratulations guy, you are incredible!
Is Lemon a fraud? No, he's just plays easier games like Dark Souls. You can't blame him for not being up to real challenges like Pikmin
Amazing video as always, you really went the extra mile with redoing days to get the true lowest fruit!
30:34 the real reason they are avoiding the juice is that it turned Brittney into a large green man
This is so cool dude! I love how you give credit to any clips you use, and the effort you put into your videos :D
when the meerslug is doing the underground phase, I believe it's possible to charge a large amount of pikmin onto its lips (it might need to be rock pikmin but I'm not sure) and it'll do enough damage to make it fly up into the air before it gets the chance to eat any pikmin.
you can do it with only reds too
14:06 so what I think it is, is that it's supposed to be a cutscene for when you collect your first fruit, where the Drake will process it and notify you, interupting the gameplay to show it to you, before letting you resume. So it won't pop up at thr end of the day with the rest of the fruit you gathered, and if I remember correctly it doesn't even show the icon on the side since it's already processed and everything. It typically happens with the strawberry at the start, but since that usually gives a jar and a half of fruit, it also shows the extra jar which thegame does indicate on thr counter. Since the watermelon piece wasn't enough on its own to give you a whole jar of juice, and since you used speedrun tactics and played the game before I'm assuming you're skipping small cutscenes like that, and since it wasn't enough you won't find the counter moved, the piece already processed, and the juice poured. Also yes I'm a dork
The first fruit you acquire in a playthrough automatically triggers a cutscene where the ship juices it. Which is why the first piece didn't show and why there was already juice in the canister
You can complete the entirety of distant tundra within 1 day, it’s honestly not that difficult at all if you split your Pikmin up as much as possible
the star fruit solution is three half pieces of fruit, so 1.5 and the solution you did was 5/6 and 2/10, so one and one thirtieth of a fruit, and is therefore less fruit. but the two watermelon pieces and one star fruit piece is still less since that's 2/6 and 1/2 so it's ultimately 5/6ths of a fruit.
You and kemons little rivalry is really funny. Also i dont know how you guys keep thinking of funky ways to beat pikmin
Found this channel about a week ago and have been binging your challenge videos. (Had no idea just how broken Pikmin 1 and 2 are, dang!)
Though it turned out you didn't need it in the end, I'll just say you don't have to solve squat for the star fruit in Tropical Wilds. You can just lock on to it and charge Winged Pikmin to tear it down. All these years later I still remember that being the first thing I tried on my first playthrough. Only way I've ever gotten it on several runs.
About the watermelon thing.
The first fruit you ever collect. The game has a cutscene where it analyzes and juices the fruit to teach you how to get more food. Normally this is done in Day 2 but because you skipped all the fruit it led to this Watermelom being used up in the tutorial, so the first piece is juiced up right when you get it instead of being saved for the end of the day like the rest
14:08 I can actually explain this one.
basically, a cutscene is supposed to play when you get the very first strawberry you encounter on day 2, however it most likely doesn't apply to watermelon pieces on day 4 since the game A: doesn't count the watermelon as a full fruit, and B: doesn't expect you to get a watermelon as your first fruit. the cutscene itself shows the fruit being analysed and then being turned into juice saving the seeds for later. since you collected the first watermelon piece not only did the cutscene not play, but it also just gave you the juice.
as an added note, the strawberry on day one doesn't register as a collected fruit either so maybe it's just hard coded into the game.
the first piece of fruit is automatically juiced, because there's normally the whole cutscene with the strawberry on the day you rescue brittany. if you skip the strawberry then the next fruit you get is counted as the "first fruit" and gets juiced regardless
Regarding the watermelon piece, when you collect your first fruit of the playthrough a cutscene plays juicing it immediately, normally this is with the strawberry in the garden of hope but the game is flexible and does it with whatever
The first watermelon disappeared because when you usually collect fruit for the first time it activates a cutscene which auto juices it so that’s what happened
The shaggy long legs in distant tundra can be reached as soon as you build both bridges by going back into the yellow onion cave and throwing a captain. It's still too slow, but it doesn't require the winged pikmin
As a member of the firebomb academy this means war, but as a pikmin content enjoyer the war can wait.
The firs time you collect a fruit is is automatically added as juice, complete with a cutscene telling you that fruit gets juiced, all others are added at end of day. You're supposed to do it with the strawberry, and not a partial fruit. The partial fruit being the first one breaks the cutscene, but still adds the juice
My theory with the watermelon is that since it was the first fruit collected on the file, the game would have played the cutscene for when you analyze your first fruit and it juices said fruit in the middle of the day. Since the fruit would have already been juiced, the game would see no need to keep it updated on the counter as that might cause an issue where the game gives you extra juice from one piece of fruit
The first fruit usually activates a cutscene usually for the sunseed berry (strawberry) so the game probably juiced it up
I love this stupid little rivalry so much, it makes me laugh every time. ♥
I love this rivalry
I don't know if this is necessary anymore but the reason why the watermelon dissapears is because when you grab the first strawberry in the game a cutescene shows it being transformed into juice the moment you collect it, so, the game doesn't know how to process that the fruit is not a strawberry and just skips the cutescene of the first fruit being transformed.
14:04 It was the first fruit you collected during the entire play through. If you played the game how it was designed to, the first fruit you collect (a strawberry) is analyzed and juiced as soon as it’s collected, even if it’s in the middle of the day. You skipped the cutscene, so it seemed like the piece wasn’t registered, though it was. It’s no glitch, it’s just what happens when you bring your first fruit to the S.S. Drake.
More vivalry, more fruit- wait... more Pikmin content.
What happened with the fruit is that normally you get the Sunseed Berry first which then triggers a cutscene where the Drake juices it for you immediatley and doesn't count it.
But since your first fruit was the Watermelon piece first it did the same thing but without the cutscene most likely due to the fact Nintendo didn't predict you getting a fruit that far in the game first.
The missing watermelon is caused by the cutscene that plays when you get your first fruit, but due to it not being a full fruit the cutscene is skipped
14:24 I know what's happening! When you collect your first piece of any fruit the game plays a cutscene for it, not count it in the UI, and automatically juice it. In a normal playthrough, this cutscene will play for the sunseed berry in the garden of hope. But because you skip it the game treated the watermelon piece as the first piece of fruit.
The distant tundra can be completed in one day without glitches btw. Would have been way cooler if you did it that way.
14:18 since it was your first fruit, the game would usually do that cutscene where you juice the strawberry instantly, but since you didn’t get a strawberry, the game freaked out and just didn’t count it and turned into juice.
So, let's go over the "glitch" with the Watermelon. When you first collect a piece of fruit, the juicing mechanic is explained through a cutscene where the animation that normally is played at the end of the day is played immediately to show you gaining juice. However, because of how the game is coded that fruit has to be removed from your collection history for the day to keep it from being juiced at the end of the day. So the juice for the first fruit you collect is instantly added into your food reserves.
In this instance, because the game doesn't register the multi piece fruit as collected until all the pieces are collected, the game never triggered the flag to play the juicing cutscene but still awarded you the juice and removed the first piece from the collection history since that flag is tied to the collection and not the triggering of the fruit increment counter.
If you still have the save file, I'd be really curious to see you go back to that day and collect all the pieces to see what that cutscene would look like. If it would only juice the first piece found or all 6 pieces.
What could have happened with the watermelon is the game glitched out because normally your first fruit has a cutscene where it’s juiced immediately, and the game didn’t know what to do with the watermelon and not a strawberry so it just juiced it immediately with no cutscene
It's so funny to me that this challenge basically defeats the whole purpose of Pikmin 3 and dooms the entire population of Koppai
the first fruit you get in this game causes a juicing cutscene to start (think the strawberry in the garden of hope) so since it's already been juiced it doesn't appear in the end of day juicing cutscene
from outward appearances, the only way to reduce the fruit count further would be to change the metric for counting, being that 7 days is a hard minimum. if we say a Piece of Fruit is equal to a Whole Fruit and forego the in-game count, I'm sure you can route 2 fruits w/ a 2.5 & .5, or a 2 & 1 juice fruit pairing (this seems like the most likely evolution imo). alternatively, we count a partial fruit as equal to its corresponding whole fruit (collecting 1 grape from a bunch is counted the same as collecting all 20) at which point, collecting the whole watermelon would be a "single" fruit which fulfills the entire 3-juice requirement on its own
You don't have to do the entire weight puzzle in Tropical Wilds to get the Star Fruit. You can throw Yellows onto the fruit from the ledge just up from the first "elevator". Throw 10 Yellows up the first ledge, put lone Captain onto elevator, throw two Yellows onto bouncy mushroom, throw 10 Yellows onto Star Fruit, done.
The problem you had with the watermelon was because you got your first fruit. They’re supposed to be a cut scene showing the fruit getting juiced during the day but the game probably didn’t register the cut scene because it’s supposed to be done at the garden of Hope. You want proof, start a new game of Pikmin three and go to the point where you find your first strawberry collect it and see what happens😁
2:29 Protip, when a youtuber says something like this, what they actually mean is, "I want to watch the video I'm working on, but if I have to spend one more minute researching and editing this thing I'm going to flip a biscuit! It's good enough okay I'm done, someone else do it better and then link me the results so I can have proper closure."
Or at least, that's what I mean when i issue such a challenge to my audience.
heres my theory for the watermelon thing: the game normaly plays a cutscene when you collect your first fruit so I think that that cutscene was supposed to play for your first part of the watermellon that was collected but it didn't because you weren't meant to collect your first piece of fruit that late into the game so it didn't play the cutscene
Re: Missing Watermelon
The fruit on the side of the screen are fruit that have not been juiced yet. Since the watermelon was the first fruit collected in the run, the cutscene for juicing it played but he skipped it. Just like when you connect the first strawberry, you get a cutscene and it doesn't appear in the side of the screen.
Ok, I know what happened with the watermelon piece. The first time you collect a fruit in the game, there's a cutscene where the Drake shows you the fruit and make it into juice. You probably skipped that cutscene and didn't notice, so the first piece of watermelon was already been made into juice
I have a theory on the watermelon. If I recall correctly, the first fruit collected triggers a special animation and is then juiced immediately. My theory is that not creating a full juice somehow bugged this cutscene and didn't play it.
The water Mellon glitch was because you never triggered the cutscene of getting your first fruit which automatically juices it during the day but the watermelon was your first fruit so the game glitched so it automatically juiced it but it did not play the cuttsence
14:25 when you get your first fruit, a cutscene plays and juices it automaticly. It doesn't show as an icon after. You skipped that cutscene. Because the first fruit you're suppost to get is the Sunseed Berry but in your case it's a Crimson Banquet, it isn't able to fill a whole glass of juice.
During normal Pikmin 3 gameplay, once you collect your first piece of fruit the game will interrupt you with a cutscene of it juicing the fruit, the first fruit you ever collect will be juiced instantly after collecting instead of at the end of the day, my guess is that because this scene happens in garden of hope and you were in tropical wilds when you first collected your first fruit (it being the watermelon mind you) the game had a brain fart because it technically shouldn’t be possible for you to do that, so it skips any cutscene, I bet if the first piece to go in was the biggest one, it would have shown you that you got a jar out of the blue
Good job getting the count down to 1.16~ fruit! Depending on how you count the watermelon, 2/6 pieces is either 1/3. 2/3 juice canisters could be, 2/3, or the large half piece and medium quarter piece could be 3/4. Add that to the 1/2 a starfruit and bam, you get a differing value.
I'm of the opinion that the best run is either the absolute least collections total to get the 3 canisters, OR, the least total collected, using the juice rating of each piece as a measure of collection percentage... which, I think only the watermelon has differing values on individual pieces to really matter? but still.
and the bromance continues
14:02 actually what happened is the game usually forces you into a cutscene when you collect ur very FIRST piece of fruit. This cutscene actually shows the fruit being juiced MID-DAY thus adding juice to a canister. You skipped this cutscene so that's probably why it didnt make any sense on how you had juice already. Also you probably need to still count that one then bc it does indeed exist
I think i know what happened with the watermelon. That was the first fruit you have collected in the run, which was pretty far in by game standards. I think what happened was that the game was expecting to already have a partial, so it just assumed the watermelon piece was collected on a previous day.
This is a good challenge because even if you lose, your efforts will not be fruitless.
The first piece of the watermelon didn’t register, but it still counted as juice.
Lemon seems like he is worth competing with.
Wow that is incredibly generous, thank you so much. And yes Lemon is a great rival, just don’t tell him I said that.
It's already been said, but I feel I MUST. The first fruit you collect in the game always plays a cutscene where the fruit is juiced. If I had to guess you just skipped it and didn't realize.
Now imagine if he also did it with the minimum amount of pikmins, it would be really funny 🙂
this is a great year for disses