People have the Audacity to criticize. You do you my man. I remodel my rental properties and want to do them right I love learning code. Thank you for your videos and the time it takes to creat and upload. Keep it up!
These numbers are very, very general. There are many other factors to being compliant You also noted drain to drain. This is nothing it’s to the fixture the inspector don’t give a crap where the drain is. The standard offset for a water closet is 18”. Max. 15” min but that’s measured at the floor. I do appreciate your take about these codes must be adhered to and you are correct that during rough in is the time for it. Also. BTW. There only has to be 1. ADA compliant bathroom
IRC requires a minimum of 15” horizontal clearance from center of WC to any obstruction (i.e. tub, wall, cabinet) and a minimum of 30” overall clearance. The rest of the measurements can be whatever works for the finishes.
@@willbill7250 Many 12 inch rough toilets will fit 11 inch rough,, and you can always order a 10 inch rough toilet as well.. There is many old houses that still have 10 inch rough toilets.
Actually the time to get that right was probably during rough in lol. But I gotcha. Love the videos man. I’m an apprentice plumber and appreciate these videos.
Keep in mind that plumbing supply and drain lines can fluctuate due to type of cab that is going in. For instance if you have drawers you’ll want to offset the plumbing lines so they won’t be in the drawers way.
I think these dimensions are based off a minimum 5'x7' bathroom correct? Where a 60"x30" tub is used and the W.C. and lav are on the wet wall. Thanks for posting, keep em coming 👍
Is that water stub out for the toilet 3 inches off the floor or am I crazy? It should be high enough to clear baseboard I used to do 6 inches now I do 8
So, the plumbing contractor was there making some corrections while I filming and that was one of the items on his list. You are correct that suppy was too low, should around 8" or 9" A.F.F...I should've used that for one of my plumbing violation videos.
Center tub drain to center toilet is irrelevant. Cabinets and tubs come in a wide range of widths. Minimum center of toilet to edge of cabinet or tub is all that matters.
Oh. Hell. Everyone is an expert. The man is doing a job. Whether he's right or wrong isn't for me to decide or comment on. Everyone and their mamma are making videos on construction and remodeling. A lot of professionals and DIY individuals. Myself. I don't need to watch a video on how to build or renovate. There's a lot of people who do. So experts keep everyone in check 👍
@@PPG1967 I look at it like this. It's your, time, money and effort. It's your business. It's not my place to give you my thoughts or advice unless you ask for it. If the way you do it comes out with job with no problems. Hey. You had a good day. Good luck to you and hope to see you more down the road.👍
You got a great job. Coming behind to see if it's ready for the next phase. I comment sometimes trying to get to a point and go all the way around the mountain to get to it. Sometimes I hit the mark sometimes I don't. Maybe one day I'll get it right 😂
First time I see someone measuring from drainage to drainage Doesn't make much sense to me. Usually is for the clearances on edges to center of toilet.
No there's no standard for fixture to fixture except for toilet flange being 15in each side center of flange of clearance between fixtures and 12 in to center off wall proper venting
I’m not gonna say for 100% sure but as a master plumber I believe that that whole bathroom is being vented through that 1-1/2” vent on the lavatory. It’s called a wet vent on a 3 fixture bathroom group. I’m also gonna assume that you aren’t a licensed plumber to be asking that question 😂🤣….or maybe you’re a apprentice….or maybe a Harry homeowner diyer 🤣
Huh??....what are you talking about? Why does it need to be 30" from drain to drain? That would mean that every bathroom would have to be the exact same size....huh?
So what you’re saying is a lot of rough in inspection is skipped, or inspectors themselves are paid under the table to ignore the actual product….cuz that’s not what I see in too many homes
This comment is from someone who is clueless. Aren’t you just admit you have no idea. This is minimums. But I do disagree with his lav drain 15in off the wall. It depends on the vanity. That’s roughed in for a centered sink what if it’s to the left drawers on the right. Then manufacturers code would supercede whatever local code he’s enforcing there as long as it’s UL approved. Which sure he didn’t state but everyone who knows knows that. And if it’s an old house sure they got away with more then.
@@PPG1967 i follow upc. So to be honest I don't know everything to do with ipc. The 30" from tub drain to center of water closet.. UPC requires 30" minimum opening for the toilet 15" on either side. So to be honest I don't know everything to do with ipc. The 30" from tub drain to center of water closet.. UPC requires 30" minimum opening for the wc 15" on either side.
@@PPG1967 Yeah it’s 32” stick to residential, also I tagged him, not you. I don’t even know why you messaged me. He asked minimum height for lavatory could be anything bud. You’ll never get RUclips famous if you bullshit on your own comments with potential followers.
Strange code I guess it's all minimum distances? I'm assuming. If it's all based on min specs I get it. Builders & architect always try cram as much as possible in smallest Sq ft possible.
These actually need to be increased with the growing waistline of our population people no longer fit this tiny space. Being 6’2” 225 lbs they have never fit me, and the growing population need more space and bigger fixtures. Just saying.
1 1/2 vent is a no go must be 2" if the vanity is the wet vent for that toilet . If not it is still required to have a minimum of a 2" vent on a toilet .
Let's be honest here with how customizable bathrooms are now Im not even sure it's a good idea for other trades to believe this.. reason being they should follow the print and leave space for mechanical which they never do.
Some tubs come with a full protective removable liner some just a cardboard cutout for the bottom and some with nothing. Frustrating to not know when ordering. Often have to make my own with a ton of blue tape and lots of cardboard.
Center of tub drain has ZERO to do with toilet. The center of toilet can't be closer than 15" from tub, wall, partition or vanity. You center toilet in between the tub & vanity best the joists below allow.
I like how you know all this shit. But the reality is it doesn’t matter 1 bit. They won’t call you they’ve never called me on that. If you where a commercial inspector looking for ADA that’s a WAY different story. But you are not (yet?)
I don't think I understand your comments. What do you mean they won't call me?.. I'm a Residential & Commercial I.C.C. Inspector. Everything in these videos I enforce..
Many codes out there but let's just agree that we wanted to have the best flow possible, cutting corners is no good buddy I bet you'd use a straight 90 on a drain pipe
@@PPG1967 There’s no code restrictions that the center of the water closet to the center of the tub drain or the center of the lav drain should be 30” , as you stated. There is a 15” minimum between the center of the water closet to the edge of the tub and the edge of the vanity cabinet Or 30 “ minimum of unobstructed clearance around the toilet, Which you did state.
@@PPG1967 there are no code restrictions on center to center of drains. Like Dan Hatch and others have commented. I understand you are making an informative video and those drain dimensions just happened to work for you but they are not code mandatory.
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Plumber did a good job. He took the time to make it look nice.
I appreciate your feedback.
Funny in my tiny house them numbers don't work.. Still passed.
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Your house got what we used to call a F-150 inspection. That's where the guy drives by and does the inspection from his truck
Glad my city doesn't rape people on worthless codes.
Tiny homes, in California at least have plenty of exceptions allowed.
@@brownstonecustomcabinetry5309lmaoo
People have the Audacity to criticize. You do you my man. I remodel my rental properties and want to do them right I love learning code. Thank you for your videos and the time it takes to creat and upload. Keep it up!
I appreciate your comment...thanks for watching!!
He needs to explain because i dont think you can trust his numbers.
These numbers are very, very general. There are many other factors to being compliant
You also noted drain to drain. This is nothing it’s to the fixture the inspector don’t give a crap where the drain is.
The standard offset for a water closet is 18”. Max. 15” min but that’s measured at the floor.
I do appreciate your take about these codes must be adhered to and you are correct that during rough in is the time for it.
Also. BTW. There only has to be 1. ADA compliant bathroom
Super useful as I'm planning my basement now. Thank you!
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IRC requires a minimum of 15” horizontal clearance from center of WC to any obstruction (i.e. tub, wall, cabinet) and a minimum of 30” overall clearance. The rest of the measurements can be whatever works for the finishes.
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12" from the wall or the closest won't fit
@@willbill7250 Many 12 inch rough toilets will fit 11 inch rough,, and you can always order a 10 inch rough toilet as well.. There is many old houses that still have 10 inch rough toilets.
@@willbill7250 actually it’s 12 1/2” cause of drywall and/or tile
@@willbill7250 Should be 13” now with all the funky toilet bases nowadays
Thank you!!🎉
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Actually the time to get that right was probably during rough in lol. But I gotcha. Love the videos man. I’m an apprentice plumber and appreciate these videos.
I appreciate your comment.
How about shut your mouth apprentice, it can still be fixed now with a minimum of hassle.
Do not trust the numbers verify youself with your local jurisdiction
Keep in mind that plumbing supply and drain lines can fluctuate due to type of cab that is going in. For instance if you have drawers you’ll want to offset the plumbing lines so they won’t be in the drawers way.
Ok, thanks for commenting.
@@PPG1967 sure buddy. You’re welcome.
There are min distances for a toilet compartment but the distances from the drains to one another and to walls for vanity are not upc
This short video is based on the IPC...thanks for watching.
I think these dimensions are based off a minimum 5'x7' bathroom correct? Where a 60"x30" tub is used and the W.C. and lav are on the wet wall. Thanks for posting, keep em coming 👍
You are correct...I appreciate you watching!!
That’s only if you Pull a permit😂
Ok, you are correct
It's a standard measurement for most average size bathrooms also depends on your city and county codes
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Why can't you have national regulations? Like the U.K. just asking
Most small cities don't bother with codes.
The lavatory dwv pipe has nothing to do with the toilet center. The toilet center just needs to be 15” from lavatory cabinet or pedestal basin.
Is that water stub out for the toilet 3 inches off the floor or am I crazy? It should be high enough to clear baseboard I used to do 6 inches now I do 8
So, the plumbing contractor was there making some corrections while I filming and that was one of the items on his list. You are correct that suppy was too low, should around 8" or 9" A.F.F...I should've used that for one of my plumbing violation videos.
I appreciate your feedback.
@@PPG1967 where I live it comes thru the floor most times.. being most homes are built off of the ground on piers.
8 in is correct 👌
Is that actually a code? I have had them spec'd out, to come through the baseboard before. I've never had an inspector say anything
As long as we have 12.5 off the wall and 30” clear for water closet the rest is irrelevant Tub/shower widths can very as well as vanity selected
Ok, thanks for your feedback.
Center tub drain to center toilet is irrelevant. Cabinets and tubs come in a wide range of widths. Minimum center of toilet to edge of cabinet or tub is all that matters.
Ok, thanks for your comment.
Lavatory should be about 16 1/2 " or 30" cabinet will be against the drywall and top won't be centered
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If there is enough space could they be more spaced out?
It's just the minimum. I appreciate you watching.
Good plan sir. Did they pass? Looks close.
Yep, just the minimum dimensions.
Closet supply too low. 3' off the subfloor? escutcheon will be in trim. Water closet looks like 4".
yeah, it's too low. I call that one out on my report. I appreciate you watching.
That's clearly a 4 inch rough in for the water closet there, probably using a 4x3 closet bend to a 3 inch drain though...
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what if I don't want them that close
These are just minimum requirements.
So did it pass?
If my memory serves me well, it failed for some other reason. However, that bathroom rough-in was good.
Those measurements are minimums. Also, code allows deviation from measurements by local plumbing inspector. (for a good reason).
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What city/state
Atlanta, Georgia
location of the rough in drain for the lav isn't necessarily the location of the sink drain.
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Oh. Hell. Everyone is an expert. The man is doing a job. Whether he's right or wrong isn't for me to decide or comment on. Everyone and their mamma are making videos on construction and remodeling. A lot of professionals and DIY individuals. Myself. I don't need to watch a video on how to build or renovate. There's a lot of people who do. So experts keep everyone in check 👍
Ok, I appreciate your feedback.
@@PPG1967 I look at it like this. It's your, time, money and effort. It's your business. It's not my place to give you my thoughts or advice unless you ask for it. If the way you do it comes out with job with no problems. Hey. You had a good day. Good luck to you and hope to see you more down the road.👍
You got a great job. Coming behind to see if it's ready for the next phase. I comment sometimes trying to get to a point and go all the way around the mountain to get to it. Sometimes I hit the mark sometimes I don't. Maybe one day I'll get it right 😂
Why the stub out so Low
You referring to the water closet??
Plumb everyday. You’re right on. Get them guys doing a terrible job bro. Save the future homeowner from headaches!
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First time I see someone measuring from drainage to drainage
Doesn't make much sense to me. Usually is for the clearances on edges to center of toilet.
Ok, i appreciate your comment.
No there's no standard for fixture to fixture except for toilet flange being 15in each side center of flange of clearance between fixtures and 12 in to center off wall proper venting
It might be just me, but I'd verify those measurements before cutting and installing all that plumbing. ;)
I'm sure the plumbing contractor did that.
How do you hide that water closet pipe? We don’t have one in our bathroom
???
A water closet is a toilet, do you not have a toilet?
You referring to the water closet??... the toilet will be sitting on top of that drainage pipe.
Just curious why rough in the waterlines above the drain?
Why not??...I don't see a problem with it. Do you??
where is the vent for the water closet
I’m not gonna say for 100% sure but as a master plumber I believe that that whole bathroom is being vented through that 1-1/2” vent on the lavatory. It’s called a wet vent on a 3 fixture bathroom group.
I’m also gonna assume that you aren’t a licensed plumber to be asking that question 😂🤣….or maybe you’re a apprentice….or maybe a Harry homeowner diyer 🤣
@@Katsuki1031 are you a nyc license Master plumber... or are you in a west Bubba fuck state..
Thanks for answering that one...I thought he was trying to be funny.
@@PPG1967 sometimes they are sometimes they aren’t 😁
Wet vented off the lavatory newbie
Sorry but the only measurements that matter is the toilet drain. 15" each side and 12" from back finished wall.
Ok, I appreciate your feedback.
Why does it have to be 30” away is that to your code or something or to plans
Minimum code requirements...I appreciate you watching.
that water closet stub out looks way too low. can you comment on that?
You referring to the sanitary pipe?
@PPG1967 no. The copper pipe stubout close to the floor.
Yeah, I know. I called that one out.
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@@PPG1967 awesome! 😀
How’d they do?
They passed...I appreciate you watching!!
With the designs of vanities nowadays the plumbing needs to go left or right of center so it doesn't interfere with drawer, ya?
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Pretty standard stuff. Even the new guy trying to find the 2x4 stretcher should know these basic code requirements.
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15"-18" from c line of water closet * to the side if the tub ! ADA
So, what plumbing code book are you referencing??
Taking measurements now
Remember, these are minimum dimensions.
@@PPG1967 I guess now is the time before it finished
Huh??....what are you talking about? Why does it need to be 30" from drain to drain? That would mean that every bathroom would have to be the exact same size....huh?
Those are minimum requirements, sir.
Damn bro, haha that's insane. Alot more to things than a person would think.
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That's a top out inspection, not a rough in inspection, just FYI. Rough ins are done before the slab is poured
So, a plumbing underslab inspection is done before the concrete. The plumbing rough-in inspection is conducted above slab or grade.
Where are you located???... are you a plumbing contractor??
I'm a homebuilder in Texas.
You're a homebuilder in Texas???....interesting.
Toilet water supply is to low...gonna have to notch that base material at finish, 6" high off of subfloor is better.
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Code states "minimum" distance , you forgot pretty important fact
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Where I live, it’s code to have quick drain water lines.
Ok, where are you located?
Water closed is British name for toilet or rest room
I didn't know that. I appreciate your feedback.
So what you’re saying is a lot of rough in inspection is skipped, or inspectors themselves are paid under the table to ignore the actual product….cuz that’s not what I see in too many homes
So, I'm confused.. how is this video saying that rough-in inspections are skipped??...Inspectors are paid under the table??
This comment is from someone who is clueless. Aren’t you just admit you have no idea. This is minimums. But I do disagree with his lav drain 15in off the wall. It depends on the vanity. That’s roughed in for a centered sink what if it’s to the left drawers on the right. Then manufacturers code would supercede whatever local code he’s enforcing there as long as it’s UL approved. Which sure he didn’t state but everyone who knows knows that. And if it’s an old house sure they got away with more then.
Hammer arrestors?
Where?...this is a bathroom.
I think “at-least” should be used here or. Base minimum. These numbers can be higher.
These are just minimum requirements.
@@PPG1967 that’s what I’m sizayin my man.
I had a licensed plumber a couple of your explanations weren't code.
So, my videos are based on the 2018 IPC...which ones were incorrect sir??
@@PPG1967 i follow upc. So to be honest I don't know everything to do with ipc. The 30" from tub drain to center of water closet.. UPC requires 30" minimum opening for the toilet 15" on either side. So to be honest I don't know everything to do with ipc. The 30" from tub drain to center of water closet.. UPC requires 30" minimum opening for the wc 15" on either side.
Is there a minimum height for lavatory
The IRC or IPC does not have a code requirement for lavatory height.
Yes 32” above finished floor is code for ADA in commercial buildings.
He didn't ask what the maximum ADA height for a lavatory. Also, it's 34" not 32"
I appreciate your comment anyway.
@@PPG1967 Yeah it’s 32” stick to residential, also I tagged him, not you. I don’t even know why you messaged me. He asked minimum height for lavatory could be anything bud. You’ll never get RUclips famous if you bullshit on your own comments with potential followers.
What if it is a 36" vanity, or a 48" vanity. Your code won't work then
These are all minimum dimensions.
Strange code I guess it's all minimum distances? I'm assuming. If it's all based on min specs I get it. Builders & architect always try cram as much as possible in smallest Sq ft possible.
All minimum required dimensions...thanks for watching.
And this is one of the many reasons why it's so expensive to build the house
Ok, I appreciate your feedback.
These actually need to be increased with the growing waistline of our population people no longer fit this tiny space. Being 6’2” 225 lbs they have never fit me, and the growing population need more space and bigger fixtures. Just saying.
I feel you...
No air chambers
What are air chambers used for??
@@PPG1967 it cushions water movement and prevents water slamming. It allows quiet operation.
You're talking about water hammer arrestors...those are only used at quick closing valves.
1 1/2 vent is a no go must be 2" if the vanity is the wet vent for that toilet . If not it is still required to have a minimum of a 2" vent on a toilet .
So, what code book are you referencing??
BOCA
It's 1.5 inch vent for a toilet. not 2 inch
The time to do the measurements is when you install all of the plumbing rough him!🤣
So, hopefully the plumbing contractor did this before roughing in the plumbing.
I'm just going in behind him.
ROUGH PLUMBING INSPECTION
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Let's be honest here with how customizable bathrooms are now Im not even sure it's a good idea for other trades to believe this.. reason being they should follow the print and leave space for mechanical which they never do.
These are minimum dimensions.
Those are the minimum distances correct?
Yes sir.
Is no one going to talk about the lack of protection for the bathtub? It's already thrashed on this "brand new home" 🤦
It is what it is...contractors are philthy. I've seen them pee in bathtubs
@@PPG1967 I'm a contractor and I pride myself in the opposite of filth. That's why my customers love me.
Some tubs come with a full protective removable liner some just a cardboard cutout for the bottom and some with nothing. Frustrating to not know when ordering. Often have to make my own with a ton of blue tape and lots of cardboard.
openings are all that count not c - c
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That valve for the toilet needs to be closer to the floor
Not necessarily sir... that water supply for the water closet should be about 8" above the floor.
Yeah and screw the trim guy with his base boards.
Works looks good only thing I’d add is use 90’s for the water line running to the stool. Everything else is clean, don’t half ass that part.
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Water closet? Looks like a toilet drain to me
Water closet is a toilet.
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15 inches from sink drain to the wall?
Doesn't make sense.
What doesn't make sense?
@@PPG1967 Why can't the drain be closer than 15 inches? If it's a 24 inch vanity, 12 inches would be center...What if it's a corner sink?
Thats a big hole.
You referring to the sanitary pipe for the toilet?
Those are minimal measurements..
Yes sir...I appreciate you watching!!
If you don't have spec sheet you don't know what their installing !! Those who inspect and teach Don't know how to work !!
And those that think they know, but don't, watch my channel.
Make sure you tell them those measurements are from FINISHED WALL, inspectors don’t care about how far from stud
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Center of tub drain has ZERO to do with toilet. The center of toilet can't be closer than 15" from tub, wall, partition or vanity.
You center toilet in between the tub & vanity best the joists below allow.
Nothing in the code book about drain to drain spacing.
What code book are you referencing??
Id thought you'd measure the distance off the wall for the toilet...typically 12" from a finished wall
12 inches from back wall to center of toilet. At least 15 inches off side wall, tub or vanity to the center of the toilet. 👍
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@@PPG1967 i appreciate your time and videos..love informative ones ...even as refreshers..thanks
I like how you know all this shit. But the reality is it doesn’t matter 1 bit. They won’t call you they’ve never called me on that. If you where a commercial inspector looking for ADA that’s a WAY different story. But you are not (yet?)
I don't think I understand your comments. What do you mean they won't call me?.. I'm a Residential & Commercial I.C.C. Inspector. Everything in these videos I enforce..
You can check my LinkedIn profile if needed.
@@PPG1967 you’re a 3rd party inspector
You said that to say what??... that doesn't change anything.
@@PPG1967 that changes everything and you know it.
Where the hell you coming up.with those measurements?? Lol
I guess you're not familiar with code books...I appreciate your comment.
The only measurement that's really code is 15 inches on either side of the toilet drain. The sink and the tub can be anywhere you want.
@@PPG1967 Not in NY , Who is there to tell me how big my bathroom should be . I'm sure there are codes for "minimum" ut that's all
@@baldthebuilder2588 you gotta have leg room bruh lol and that’s actually in ipc books
@@Katsuki1031 yeah, but it's always minimum, not maximum distances
The lavatory connection is a short sweep 90 it should be a long sweep 90
So, what code book are referencing sir??
Many codes out there but let's just agree that we wanted to have the best flow possible, cutting corners is no good buddy I bet you'd use a straight 90 on a drain pipe
Ok, so since you don't use a code book. Here in Georgia with have adopted the 2018 IPC and the short sweep is allowed for pipe up to 2"
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I think the rule is horizontal turns must be sweep fittings.
15" is not enough for center of toilet off the tub. It should be 18" minimum. Where ever you are I feel for the end clients.
So, what code book did you get 18" from?
@@PPG1967 no code just making the comment.
15 is just minimum req. For code. You can make it 18 or 40 if you wanted to.
You are a little misinformed on some of your dimensions.
How so??..What code book are you referencing??
@@PPG1967 There’s no code restrictions that the center of the water closet to the center of the tub drain or the center of the lav drain should be 30” , as you stated. There is a 15” minimum between the center of the water closet to the edge of the tub and the edge of the vanity cabinet Or 30 “ minimum of unobstructed clearance around the toilet, Which you did state.
@@PPG1967 your work is very clean and professional
You still never stated what code book you're referencing, you're incorrect on some of these statements. I'm coming out of the 2018 IPC
@@PPG1967 there are no code restrictions on center to center of drains. Like Dan Hatch and others have commented. I understand you are making an informative video and those drain dimensions just happened to work for you but they are not code mandatory.
Who uses pvc for toilet flange lines? People must love sewer floods!
You shouldn't comment if you don't know what you're talking about
Where are you located??...what type of material are you using for toilet flanges?