FORD FLEX WON'T START WITH KEY BUT STARTS WHEN STARTER IS JUMPED
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In today's video we take a look at a 2012 Ford Flex W/ a 3.5l V6 engine. The owners complaint is that the vehicle will not crank when using the key in the ignition. However, the mechanic is able to crank and start the vehicle using a screwdriver to jump the terminals on the starter solenoid. Once they start the engine up, the vehicle runs and drives normal. The owner has already replaced the starter motor and the shop already had a locksmith come and look at it. According to the locksmith, there is nothing wrong with the key, however the mechanic told me that he found several codes when using a scanner to scan the vehicle. Follow along as I diagnose the problem and fix this car.
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Very precise diagnostic step by step. I'm learning a lot from this channel. Thanks Eric..
As usual, you illustrated your process very thoroughly such that even a knucklehead like myself can follow it. Thank you!
Tremendous job of finding the problem and explaining wiring issues. Thank you.
Great step by step explanation, great job showing your diagrams and signal path.
I'm a semi-retired master tech who still enjoys his trade and I still learn from watching your videos.
Underrated channel !!!!. Good job diagnosing + explaining + filming. Thanks !!!
I'll suspect that at some point, this vehicle was on a used car lot. Probably one of the kind that sell to those with less than stellar credit. Installed a remote shut off switch (badly) to insure payment. I'm thinking this switch either received a shut-off command, or it malfunctioned.
Im thinking it was a blow and go
Great diagnosis. You explain things a little better than other RUclipsrs who cover this type of stuff. Hope you made it on time to the Daddy/daughter dance!
That was a real good one!! The explanation of how to use the data pids on the scan tool to verify problems was great. I was suspecting that the key wasn’t turning the ignition switch to the start position. I have had that problem a few times. But the scan tool data pids showed that wasn’t the case. Also your breakdown of the wiring diagram was superb!! Thank u!!
Precise and step-by-step always on point, keep it up man! Love your videos helping to learn everyday.
I had an instructor tell me about you and I love your videos theyre very educational and I love the step by step process of how to properly diagnose wiring problems. Very helpful especially coming as a new tech wanting to learn the ins and outs of the future.
dear sir,
You are blessed in your ability of relaying your technical understanding to all of us in a very clear manner thank you for that. May God bless and your family.
Jesus! 80 amp fuse for the ignition switch??? That's a lot of current lol! Great vid, Eric!! Love em all!
Oh man!, when I see a notification from your channel, I know is gonna be good !! 👌👍👍
Good job of explaining the wiring diagram and how it led you to the problem. Thank you for the work you put into these videos. 👍👍
Have fun at the Daddy/Daughter dance. I loved taking my daughters to theirs. Talk about precious moments !!!
That is great you put your kids first.
God bless.
Exactly what happened to 2011 Dodge Avenger. Intermittent no crank no start. Poor crimped wiring job. I hate crimping style. Someone tried to install a kill switch. Love how you explain step to step. Make it easier to understand . Good video as always 👍🏻.
❤hey I like n love the way you describe the circuit diagram follow step by step on the no start and kind of knowing what you were talking n when you bypass the wire to starter.you should have mention that some body installed a cut off switch.sometimes I install a cut off switch to disable electric pump (wires hidden from view. This is the first time I subscribed I been watching many videos on how to repair n also how to find problems or info on different cars I used to work on old cars I used to repair rebuild just about everything 50.s to80.snow I buy most parts w. Life time warranty ( now it.s all new technology I can see inside module’s . Graduated 1973 A.S.automotive repair 1975 Electrical repair & Maintenance I take my hat off to you Leo the Lion thanks😮
My money is on an interlock system that could have been installed previously. Install, calibrated, and remove them on a regular basis. GPS tracking for pay here buy here places also install them in the event the customer doesn't pay up they kill and repo them. Turo clients also install them when they rent out their vehicle..great work!
Everybody (including me) complain about Ford's "fuse by number" way of being annoying. Nice job tracking down the issue!
"THAT'S HOW THE STARTER SYSTEM WORKS IN A NUTSHELL"...That's a big nutshell!
You make this stuff look easy. I wish I was 10% as good as you at electrical diagnostics.
1 question...How long was this in real time? I know you’re not lazy and don’t screw around.
It was actually a fairly quick diagnosis. Explaining every step I’m taking and why I’m doing it is what takes so long. Not to mention it took me about 10 hours to edit this video. Thanks for watching!
@That V8 Life I had to cut hours of footage into a 30 minute video. Then I cut out the dead space between me talking. I try and make these videos fast paced so that viewers don't get bored and lose interest. I sat down to start the edit of this video at 8am and by the time I uploaded the video, it was almost 1am. That included rendering time, designing and making the thumbnail, writing the description, adding tags, choosing ad placement and finally getting it uploaded to RUclips. Thanks for watching!
I love your diagnostic steps. They are always very informational and helpful.
I am from Nigeria and this bypass is quite common here for security. You have to press switch to re-establish the connection for the vehicle to start otherwise this is what happens. The security switch is usually hidden in various places and my last car had it hidden inside the coin holder close to the driver door. Unless someone tells you it is there, you can never know where it is nor start the car.
Very informational.
Thank you
God Bless you I work at a restaurant I don't have time fixing car I enjoy watching your video your a Nikola Tesla of car thankyou for sharing . 😀
I don't think there is another mechanic/RUclipsr that explains their diagnostic process as well as Eric here. Great content. Cheers.
DiagnoseDan is one of them
Pine Hollow Diagnostics, Rainman Rays Repair, South Maine Auto and online Mechanic Tips
My daughters 2018 Chevy traverse was doing same thing. This help me a lot watching this. I found the wire was damaged from factory and was pinched under a bolt. Took to dealer after I found the problem and they replaced it
I appreciate you, son. Your videos are very easy to listen to, the editing was superb. Thank you for sharing your plethora of knowledge with us.
That is what it’s about, finishing the job and spending time with the fam. That’s what make each time at work worth it.
Yes! Gotta make time for family. Thanks for watching!
You are the man thank you thank you for sharing your knowledge
Good stuff dude. That was the best yet. A kill switch on a low-end minivan? WOW
I hope your customers appreciate and pay premium for these diags
Good catch, as always Eric. Dealt with a similar issue here in Nigeria, Africa, myself. It was on a Ford explorer 2014. All switched inputs checked out, in my case we had to replace the pcm. The pcm was responsible for grounding the starter relay and it wasn't doing that anymore.
That was a trap from the beginning! A hidden after market kill switch! Who'd a thought!
Good job. 👍
That looks like a starter wire cut for an interlock device I install them all the time great vid
I like your style and diagnosis. You're kind of like me you do it fast and try to get to the point thank you very much for sharing this info with us.
Buena informacion a un que entiendo ingles haces videos con muy buena informacion..saludos desde tierras AZTEKAS
Very powerful diagnostic, I really enjoyed your video, I also respect your professional skills.
This is what thorough trouble shooting is all abt. I could use your professionalism here in Phila on my car👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿.
Very nice lesson, SIR!!
Great job tracing the issue. Glad you made the dance
best diagnosis channel on youtube, thanks buddy
I don’t watch much tv but do watch A LOT of RUclips. In my opinion your videos are way above the rest. Your step by step approach is what us diyers need to try and diagnose our own vehicles. I especially like your explanation of the various codes on the scan tool and particularly your explanation of the wiring diagram for this vehicle. Your videos are invaluable! As I’m retired, your videos help me as I don’t have a lot of extra money laying around to have my vehicles worked on. I was wondering if you could recommend a good scan tool like you use that’s not too pricey but a good one?
I saw a shinning new starter. Looks like someone been firing the parts cannon for some time to fix that problem. Turns out was aftermarket crap. Not part required. Good video
The Daddy - Daughter Dance was and always should be more important 😉 Another great video Eric, regards from Galway, Ireland. 👍😉🍻💚 💙💛
Brother, I really like the way you explain and digging your way through up to the solution. I'm learning a lot from you.
Great video , straight to the issue with easy to follow information 💪🏼 . Let’s pray Ford Ford change the number fuse boxes those are really annoying specially when working on the field ! Saludos Erick
you could be a great teacher you do it so well in explaining, thanks great video
Eric excellent find. Finding Modified wiring is very frustrating in Diagnosing.
Excellent troubleshooting diagnosis.
Dude that was AWESOME!!!!!! My 2011 Ford Flex and I appreciate you and have subscribed! Cheers
Brilliant video and love you cometary even I can follow/ understand. What makes me laugh is as soon as you found the wire cut and going towards the can I knew what’s was happening as I do the same thing to my classic cars because they don’t have modern Security systems 👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great job Eric, like hunting down a varmint in the wild.
I had a shop that had the same issue, turned out to be a breathalyzer install. There's only a few certified shops here in michigan that does them. They send the technicians off to learn how to install them and one guy here I visited every two weeks(servicing their paint system on a failed business venture). He was pretty good. I would think as good as anyone in your field. Figured out stuff the dealerships just ignore and forget about. Yeah, the car was in a wreck, who cares about it now kind of attitude. The dealership didn't spend a huge part of their savings and income buying this and have a deer run out in front of them. The dealership would have the car for months and just give it back and say its junk. Have "the laptop guy" come in and fix it in 20 minutes. Those guys did them cheap and banged them out. The guy here would solder the wires and heatshrink them and install everything back into the factory loom so youd never know. When the car is repoed then the system should be fully removed.....
It was probably a kill switch used by some sketchy used car lot to disable it when someone didn’t pay. Or maybe a breathalyzer interlock, but I would think that the wiring would be removed if they removed the breathalyzer.
Good one Eric!
Nice catch with that kill switch! Haven't seen those in a long time!
Thanks!
Great video as always. I had that same issue with a traverse about 6 months ago.
Thank you.
I hope I can fix the same problem.
Very long video juan but good one! Thanks jose
Yep, could've been a hidden kill switch, a remote start, or remote anti-start module👍🇦🇺
Great diagnostics skills thank you.
the illusive magic switch XD
Am in Ghana I love your videos
Brilliant explanation and diagnosis.. Keep it up dude.
Great job! Thanks for sharing.
Definitely a great instructional video. Keep em coming
Great find amigo 😊
Helles yes. Awesome tutorial.
Thanks for the great diag.
Always great tutorials.
Stay frosty.
You have your priorities straight. Daddy daughter dance!!!
You're a genius!!!!! Love watching your videos!
Good stuff, would love to have seen what was scabbed into the circuit though. Another high quality aftermarket device I'm sure. Thanks
you always get the easy jobs
I love your videos. Excellent diagnoses as usual. Keep them coming my friend.........
Thank u for this diagnosis and educational explain step by step ... One question plz ... did the power prope can load the 30 amp starter relay solenoid and crank the engine ???
Wonderful work ☑️
Awesome find
Awesome. Someone added some junk to the system without knowing what to really do. And a pain finding their mess up.
Awesome Job man! 10 out of 10 bro!
No wonder we don’t see carlos mencia doing “comedy” anymore. Homeboy got mad car repair skills
What I find interesting is that your power probe saw a ground. That's to be expected if it leads to the starter solenoid. But not what you'd expect if it was leading to some kind of kill switch.
You just got another subscriber ... great job amigo
Thanks for your great videos.. I have been following you for a while.. I am Franco Perez from Mexicali,Baja California Mexico..
I'm a mechanic Mobile Mechanic first thing I would check is a starter put a screwdriver to it and see if it cranks there's only a couple things that make a car run
See that's why you should use some some dielectric grease on any kind of wire crimp or side of the wire and use heat shrink tubing to make that sure that electrical connection lasting.
As soon as you spotted the wires running into the vehicle in a loop (kill switch) I automatically thought there had a been a blow box (breathalyzer installed) that had been removed without removing the "loop". FYI just a thought.
Glad you made your dance.take care of her.
Good Job 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
very nice video . awesome explanation wiring diagram it was perfecta , i am hoping i can see more video like that every day thanks a lot Mate
Good job!
You make electrical problems seem easy. But they're not.
And for the record, the daddy daughter dance is the epitome of what we are as humans.
used to have this happen on an old ford. Was actually a motor mount twisting enough that the car wasn't fully going into park though so the safety switch was cutting out the start position from the key switch. Ask me how I found out the hard way sometime ;-)
I have to ask 😂: popped out of park and rolled down a hill at a really inconvenient time?
That’s when it’s in lower case p instead of uppercase P.
Sort of half park.
@@gradyluyt6998 more like started it by jumpering the relay - was technically in reverse so it shot across the street......
@@michaelslee4336 more like upper case P with a kickstand - think R
This was someone who had a breathalyzer installed due to a dwi. It’s textbook install for an interlock which is also why you didn’t see a switch inside.
Great video ERIC
So why did the powerprobe show a ground when it was connected to the relay load output? When you applied 12v, it never got to the starter (because of the open in the crimp,) yet it showed ground without the 12v being applied. Perhaps the crimp wasn't completely open, still connecting through the starter motor to ground, but not strong enough to allow current flow. And if the dark green wire were completely grounded, what would happen when you apply 12v from the power probe? I suppose you're relying on the tool's circuit breaker to trip?
Always great videos. Awesome mechanic
Very well done eria. Thanks .sam
He add some safety feture or a secret switch. Hehehe. God bless
nice video, I have a 2012 ford flex similar issues no crank,, I saw your video amd rushed to the car disconnect and reconnected that same blue connector and the car started right up, I when to assemble it back and no crank again. any idea , I would appreciate alot thank you.
Great Job
Great video 👍
I had a similar problem on my car. If I put power direct to the solenoid then it would turn over. After tracing the wiring I discovered that the cause was an aftermarket immobiliser that had failed. I had another car that started intermittently - this took a long time to diagnose and it was burnt contacts on the ignition switch which I only discovered when I took it apart (every time you turn the key the contacts slide over each other and wear over time).
So I have the same problem but my car cranks but won't start do you think it might be the same problem? But some times I leave it alone or sometimes I used the diagnostic device and delet whatever it's showing and it starts please enlighten my path oh mighty one! I enjoy ur videos!