I strongly agree with you. Something about his voice is so calming and his personality and everything, god I could listen to him talk all day he’s such a lovey warm hearted person that was always intelligent and oddly attractive. And till this day, I still miss him.
@@DivineAdmire I am happy that I 'found' him way back in 1969, first listen to Space Oddity and I was hooked. An incredible artist, musician, singer, songwriter, actor, painter, name it...And yes I will always miss that guy. How happy to be around while he was too..
This legend called MTV out on their racism back in the day. What is amazing two of the biggest music artists of all time Prince and Michael Jackson were not really welcome on MTV in the beginning. David Bowie was a brilliant man RIP genius.
Yes, he was so smart. To defend MTV a little bit, they decided their target demographic was basically 13 yr old Van Halen fans. Now, I assume they're still on TV, but last time I watched it they've done another absolute u turn and now their target audience are Beyonce and Kanye West and they would hardly never play a Santana or Aretha Franklin video or anybody that was less "poppy." So stations that play music videos are still identifying their target audience and catering to that demographic. I also just want to point out that Mark was such a terrible interviewer! A genius like Bowie deserved better.
Michael Jackson became the bestselling artist of all time, because of Thriller, so he didn't pay attention to the naysayers. But, yes, in general, you didn't see or hear any other black musicians, maybe some vocalists on MTV
@@sianiswack633 Then came the "exclusive" MJ videos from then on. And don't forget the promoting of Prince given Purple Rain and then YO MTV RAPS... All of this as if they were in on it all along. 🤣
The ultimate chameleon. In his music, his personas, and the people he chose to work with. Greatest ever. And so elegant in his disagreement and calling BS.
“On today’s episode of ‘When Hiding Your Racism Goes Wrong’, Mark Goodman reveals himself to Bowie and the world 🌎”. Mark asked at the end of the interview, “Are we still filming?” What do you care, Mark?
MJ was pretty much the BIGGEST thing in 1983 and EVERYONE (all ethnicities), teens to 30-year-olds, was asking the same thing: why wasn’t he on MTV. MTV pushed back hard then finally caved to public pressure. Remember it like it was yesterday.
Just saw the end of this on a Twitch stream. Had to watch the full video. David is such a great guy. Called them out and they didn't know what to do. Wonderful stuff.
David is so gorgeous here. And as always so eloquent, intelligent, much smarter than his interviewer. And i've always loved that bit where he takes MTV to task. The look on his face is so penetrating and blatantly says 'You're full of sh*t and your racism is showing'
WOW, the tension in that room just soared during the "punishing questions" segment. PALPABLE. Who was the dude that entered the frame n copped a protective (or imposing) squat next to David? Bowie stuck to his guns, but you could tell by his body language toward the end that he felt a need to protect himself. RIP DB & Peace Out.
Bowie was right on the mark regarding race and MTV back then. I loved the station at that time, but one would have to be blind or in denial if they believed black artists were getting the same airtime as white artists.
The thing was, white musicians discovered non-white players, and singers, incorporating some musicians and their style, but no way were they going to give up their spot
I like at the very beginning when they were chatting during set-up David not liking the Susan Seidelman 1983 film Smithereens which is part of the Criterion Collection. He could not get past 30 minutes.
Love him! Bowie’s greatest period of musical recognition came from Black producers and musicians he worked with like Luther Vandross who was the musical arranger on Young Mexicans and helped co-write it. Also Nile Rodgers producing the albums he is debuting here which MTV loved to play ironically 😂
'Young Mexicans' 😅 - that's great. I think Vandross was primarily the vocal arranger, though he no doubt had a broader imput. Carlos would probably have been the musical arranger. 'Fascination' was a slightly reworked Luther Vandross song - the first musical credit and royalties he'd received at that point.
IT SEEMS LIKE DAVID BOWIE WAS THE ONLY RECORDING 🎨 TO CALL MTV OUT ON THEIR POLICY. IM AWARE IT TOOK NERVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE HE WAS THERE TO PROMOTE HIS NEW ALBUM.
David knew they were blowing smoke that’s why he just laughed at times and said I understand what you’re saying but I don’t get it period. Made no sense. MTV was just racist back then period and the only reason why they started playing black artists is cause they were threatened from certain labels they would remove there white artists off MTV if they didn’t play Micheal Jackson etc. if u put in 80’s video on tv today it will show everything before prince and Micheal.
Bowie needed to look at the fact MTV was new! and showcased allot of British artists that would never have gotten aireplay before! also new wave! it was new and trying a new format!! Hry they didn't play christopher cross or ABBA. they didn't play Jim Croce,, james taylor either so what!
Stop it. They’ve could’ve played black artists in the beginning if they wanted to. Black American artists made videos at that exact time as well that weren’t aired. There are black British artists whose videos weren’t also aired. You’re talking about specific white artists when the topic is the network only playing white artists period. They may not have played James Taylor but they played Neil Young, Stevie Nicks, Pat Benatar, etc so the White artist 👩🎤ratio was still 💯 so explain that fact.
David Bowie was always so polite and charming, even when he was quietly seething.
David has a voice that is always 'good food for the ears'...This guy is sorely missed.
I strongly agree with you. Something about his voice is so calming and his personality and everything, god I could listen to him talk all day he’s such a lovey warm hearted person that was always intelligent and oddly attractive. And till this day, I still miss him.
@@DivineAdmire I am happy that I 'found' him way back in 1969, first listen to Space Oddity and I was hooked. An incredible artist, musician, singer, songwriter, actor, painter, name it...And yes I will always miss that guy. How happy to be around while he was too..
"I understand your point of view" , i love how David doesn't compromise himself-ever!!
I owe to David Bowie much of my fluency in English for having listened so much of his witty warm voice in interviews, statements, comments..
He was extremely articulate, intelligent and sincere.
The way the reporter said that Prince would scare the crap out of the Midwest when Prince was born and raised in Minneapolis, will never not be funny.
Was not only one of the greatest artists in modern history but a great humanitarian as well. I hope he is out there somewhere
He is, Scott. Out there, I mean. He is my spiritual guide and mentor...and more. Won't say more in case I come off as a nut.
David is so heroic, standing up to racism. What a wonderful human being.
Amen
10 years earlier he was praising Hitler so it just goes to show the evolution a person can make.
David asking all the right questions!✨
yes!!
Wonderful way to start the day... with a Bowie smile. Thnx.
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His smile is beautiful
His dimples are so cute
This legend called MTV out on their racism back in the day. What is amazing two of the biggest music artists of all time Prince and Michael Jackson were not really welcome on MTV in the beginning. David Bowie was a brilliant man RIP genius.
Yes, he was so smart. To defend MTV a little bit, they decided their target demographic was basically 13 yr old Van Halen fans. Now, I assume they're still on TV, but last time I watched it they've done another absolute u turn and now their target audience are Beyonce and Kanye West and they would hardly never play a Santana or Aretha Franklin video or anybody that was less "poppy."
So stations that play music videos are still identifying their target audience and catering to that demographic.
I also just want to point out that Mark was such a terrible interviewer! A genius like Bowie deserved better.
I agree! Thanks for your great comment!
Michael Jackson became the bestselling artist of all time, because of Thriller, so he didn't pay attention to the naysayers. But, yes, in general, you didn't see or hear any other black musicians, maybe some vocalists on MTV
@@sianiswack633 Then came the "exclusive" MJ videos from then on. And don't forget the promoting of Prince given Purple Rain and then YO MTV RAPS... All of this as if they were in on it all along. 🤣
The ultimate chameleon. In his music, his personas, and the people he chose to work with. Greatest ever. And so elegant in his disagreement and calling BS.
He’s so good looking
You can say that again!
I was just thinking to myself "Lord...he really was beautiful." ❤
He was so perfect here
“On today’s episode of ‘When Hiding Your Racism Goes Wrong’, Mark Goodman reveals himself to Bowie and the world 🌎”.
Mark asked at the end of the interview, “Are we still filming?”
What do you care, Mark?
Ah thank you for the full piece 💜
His questions and responds are spot on!! I get why I loved his music when I was younger. Now I really appreciate him and his music even more 🙏🏿💚
MJ was pretty much the BIGGEST thing in 1983 and EVERYONE (all ethnicities), teens to 30-year-olds, was asking the same thing: why wasn’t he on MTV. MTV pushed back hard then finally caved to public pressure. Remember it like it was yesterday.
Just saw the end of this on a Twitch stream. Had to watch the full video. David is such a great guy. Called them out and they didn't know what to do. Wonderful stuff.
So glad it is easier for a “white kid can understand it”.
I wish I could mask my disgust as well as Bowie could. What an extreme gentleman.
Yes that sentence said a lot about the journalist and MTV and where they stood on racism.
Miss him.
David is so gorgeous here. And as always so eloquent, intelligent, much smarter than his interviewer. And i've always loved that bit where he takes MTV to task. The look on his face is so penetrating and blatantly says 'You're full of sh*t and your racism is showing'
Right? Just so obvious!
Trop mignon David...💞
To think this is just before Let’s Dance. It’s wild.
WOW, the tension in that room just soared during the "punishing questions" segment. PALPABLE. Who was the dude that entered the frame n copped a protective (or imposing) squat next to David? Bowie stuck to his guns, but you could tell by his body language toward the end that he felt a need to protect himself. RIP DB & Peace Out.
Funny how the more fascinating interview was when David was the interviewer
Bowie was right on the mark regarding race and MTV back then. I loved the station at that time, but one would have to be blind or in denial if they believed black artists were getting the same airtime as white artists.
The thing was, white musicians discovered non-white players, and singers, incorporating some musicians and their style, but no way were they going to give up their spot
I like at the very beginning when they were chatting during set-up David not liking the Susan Seidelman 1983 film Smithereens which is part of the Criterion Collection. He could not get past 30 minutes.
Love him! Bowie’s greatest period of musical recognition came from Black producers and musicians he worked with like Luther Vandross who was the musical arranger on Young Mexicans and helped co-write it. Also Nile Rodgers producing the albums he is debuting here which MTV loved to play ironically 😂
'Young Mexicans' 😅 - that's great.
I think Vandross was primarily the vocal arranger, though he no doubt had a broader imput. Carlos would probably have been the musical arranger.
'Fascination' was a slightly reworked Luther Vandross song - the first musical credit and royalties he'd received at that point.
@@hazelwray4184 Autocorrect has jokes 😂
I guess someone doesn't know where rock and roll originated
The look on Bowies face when he said “the white kid could understand “ total eyerolls. He said he understands but NO ITS NOT VALID.
20:12 when you someone is lying, but you can’t say anything because of how you found so you just stare at them like:
wow I wish I could be as well spoken as he is
Where’s the David Bowie of today to tell MTV they should be playing and focusing their shows back to music.
Thanks David Bowie, they can steal it but didn’t want to play it!
Обожаю Марка Гудмана и Дэвила Боуи.
Is there any way this video can be done with great sound? The reason I ask is that this video is more complete than any other I have seen I think.
Once again David’s predictions were right. Now there is more black music than white and MTV is no more
와...진짜 개쩌는 용안이시다...
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Alright interview.
Interesting. Bowie's question was revealing about what music got played or what gets played on MTV. Mark Goodman was who at MTV ?
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Gooooöd!
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Interesting how the MTV host liked blaming their decision not to play black artists on middle America. When THEY (MTV) made the decision.
IT SEEMS LIKE DAVID BOWIE WAS THE ONLY RECORDING 🎨 TO CALL MTV OUT ON THEIR POLICY. IM AWARE IT TOOK NERVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE HE WAS THERE TO PROMOTE HIS NEW ALBUM.
Don't you find it strange that the interviewer never shows face, as if, he raised the race question before and he did not want any face recognition...
The interviewer was an MTV VJ. He was on MTV multiple hours a day. This raw footage is just from a single camera that was focused on Bowie.
David knew they were blowing smoke that’s why he just laughed at times and said I understand what you’re saying but I don’t get it period. Made no sense. MTV was just racist back then period and the only reason why they started playing black artists is cause they were threatened from certain labels they would remove there white artists off MTV if they didn’t play Micheal Jackson etc. if u put in 80’s video on tv today it will show everything before prince and Micheal.
Aretha Franklin said it best upon receiving the Grammy: "I'm so happy I could kiss David Bowie!" She could see right through his pretentiousness.
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Bowie needed to look at the fact MTV was new! and showcased allot of British artists that would never have gotten aireplay before! also new wave! it was new and trying a new format!! Hry they didn't play christopher cross or ABBA. they didn't play Jim Croce,, james taylor either so what!
Stop it. They’ve could’ve played black artists in the beginning if they wanted to. Black American artists made videos at that exact time as well that weren’t aired. There are black British artists whose videos weren’t also aired. You’re talking about specific white artists when the topic is the network only playing white artists period. They may not have played James Taylor but they played Neil Young, Stevie Nicks, Pat Benatar, etc so the White artist 👩🎤ratio was still 💯 so explain that fact.
I appreciate artist like Michael Jackson and prince who broke down racial barriers with there incredible music
mark did good made a good point
No he didn’t. Where is it?
absolutely not
Seriously? I swear I did not see it!
🧐Nope he didn't